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I hired Vince Lujan to perform for my son's memorial service. I thought I was hiring a musician. Turns out I added a member to my family. My tribe. If you need a musician, Vince is your guy.

https://www.vlpband.com/

• Live-stream music for any event
• Virtual appearances
• Music video production
• And, when COVID backs off a bit, live events of all kinds

https://jtaband.com/

• Religious services
• Youth ministry
• Music ministry training
• Praise and worship music

Show Notes
Justin Shelley with Master Computing here on the inaugural episode of DFW Rockstars. In this first episode I interview a local musician, the musician that played at my son’s funeral. 

This was a business transaction. I paid him for a service. But what really stood out here is that never did it feel like a business transaction. Instead, I instantly felt like family. 

I could not be more excited to introduce today’s guest Vince Lujan [1:40]

He is an incredible musician who (like all of us) had to quickly figure out how to handle the COVID lock-down. It was sink or swim. He decided to swim!

We are going to look behind the scenes at what you do who you are. But my hope is people will spend a few minutes on your websites and get to know you professionally. So, take a minute and visit  

[4:10] – Background and further introduction

[4:40] - Justin shares one thing he has learned through the 20+ years of being in business in one way or another.

Justin: One thing I’ve learned is that the quality of your technical work, your product, does not necessarily determine if you are going to be a success or not… It really is, how good are you at running a business?

[5:15] – Justin: Tell me the 3 most important lessons you’ve learned in running a business

Vince: Networking is what you call it, but if you just see it in terms of that and don’t see it as relationship building then you tend to get left behind. 

[9:37] – Vince: It all comes down to relationship. 

Personnel management – It all comes down to relationship. 

How do you take care of the people you work with, so they’ll take care of you?

Learning how to do that and maintain that, moving forward, is a very important thing. Learning how to take care of the people that you work with so that they’ll take care of you, personnel management.

[11:45] – Justin: Your theme is relationships and you truly do practice what you preach. 

[13:10] - “Pre-COVID lock down…What did the day in the life of Vince Lujan look like?”

[15:50] - “What were your thoughts, just as the headlines start hitting? PRE lock down.”

Vince shares a story about a guy who is a Guitarist by day and English teacher by night via online. 

[19:30] – “At this point, your live business effectively evaporates. What did that do to you emotionally?” 

[19:45] – Justin shares his emotional journey throughout all of this going on in the world: 

“Coming off the loss of my son, I was in this emotional funk that I cannot even describe. Then COVID hit. So that was kind of my journey. It wiped me out…” 

[20:10] – “What was that journey like for you as that realization hits that it’s over as far as the immediate future for your business?” 

Vince: I had just done another interview piece and feeling great for myself in terms of being able to survive and thrive. Then this hit. And it felt like my identity was just thrown away.

[21:50] - How do you bring value to clients and people online and online virtual format? 

Vince shares his struggle with that. 

Justin: Talks about the different journeys but similarities: While I got to continue my business for whatever reason I couldn’t, emotionally. 

I felt like I was sinking – great analogy – sink or swim

[25:24] – Justin share a side note story how he watched his father get laid off as a teenager. 

*Back to Sink or Swim *

[26:25] – Justin: Talk me through that Vince. You know when we were prepping you mentioned you got to a place where you kind of had to put a deadline on yourself to create an event, advertise it, and see what happens.  You were going to try it. Talk about that process:

Shares story

Technology barrier that I needed to overcome. Things I needed to be able to do.

Knowing what you want to have but how can I do this? 

How can I achieve the result I’m going for when at the time I didn’t even know how to approximate that you know? – [28:48]

Get online and fail forward

You were going to do it, do or die. You put that date without knowing what was going to happen. 

[30:45] - Vince: Going back to that first question you asked me: what are the 3 things you learned? The next is just learning, always learning, how can I learn new ways. I’ve been in this for 20 years, seen the music industry change in a crazy way since I first got into the music industry.

You’ve got to do SOMETHING. Maybe you didn’t know what the right answer way, but you had to do something. 

[32:52] – Justin: I’m intrigued by the parallels in our journey here. Because while different, that’s where I was too. I knew I had to do something. I run and IT Consulting firm. I didn’t know what to do but I knew that I couldn’t, emotionally for my own mental health I couldn’t stay home and do nothing, so I started doing a series of webinars. 

My challenge quickly became – how do I advertise them?

In just taking the step in doing something, it’s crazy how much your outlook, and skill set will change. 

We failed Forward. – Vince’s term 

[34:40] – On May 7th. The outcome of going through this nightmarish situation we’ve all been through, what would you say is your accomplishment you are most proud of as a result of COVID 19 and the lock-down?

Vince: The ability to feel like I have value again or feeling that can present value in this environment and I’ve found a way to survive and now thrive in this environment. 

[44:55] – Vince shares his greatest accomplishment:

Talking about figuring out how to survive and thrive in this completely different environment and feeling like I am worth it again. I can contribute, continue to operate, provide a service and quality in this completely different environment. 

[45:30] – “None of us want to go through a shitstorm. But we always (assuming you’ve put some effort into it) come out stronger, better, more prepared afterwards.” 

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