0:07

Hello everybody and the

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topper morning to Yeah. Kelly

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Day, man.

0:15

Happy St. Patrick's

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Day. I can't believe it's

0:18

Yeah, no kidding. Are

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you? Are you Irish? You have

0:23

Yeah. Kelly Shores is

0:23

kind of Irish sounding. I had

0:29

fifth grade named Shannon

0:29

O'Brien. Get more Irish

0:35

funny enough, my grandmother

0:35

doesn't see very well. And she

0:42

kept telling me about this

0:42

Irish quarterback that they

0:47

Chiefs, Patrick mahomes. And I

0:47

said, I don't know grandma.

0:56

Actually, we're recording this

0:56

the day before the Super Bowl.

1:00

won. It's not actually St.

1:00

Patrick's Day. So hopefully

1:05

mahomes had some lucky charms

1:05

when he won the Super Bowl.

1:09

You haven't run the

1:09

answer. You didn't answer my

1:13

Am I ever Irish? No.

1:13

Irish. You're not nine hoody.

1:19

I did a I did the DNA

1:19

test.

1:23

Oh, yeah. What's what's

1:23

I thought you were a Texan. I

1:29

if you're ever at the quarter of Milan and Rusk?

1:31

I'm 14%. Irish. 14%.

1:35

So was this 23 and me

1:35

or was it?

1:38

Yeah, and ancestry.com

1:40

ancestry? Okay.

1:42

You spit into a cup?

1:42

Yep. Hmm. And mostly,

1:46

I don't actually

1:46

believe they do anything with

1:49

send you back sort of a

1:49

random, random thing.

1:54

Yeah, but it couldn't be

1:54

too random. Because, I mean,

1:59

me or anything. Dude.

2:00

It's all over the

2:00

internet. You're famous. Okay,

2:03

that's true. That's

2:03

true. So you think based on

2:07

like, this guy's looks like he

2:07

burns when he's on the slide.

2:13

pasty?

2:14

Well, 14% Iris. So I

2:14

definitely feel like you

2:18

subject.

2:19

Yeah, so I thought maybe

2:19

we could abandon our current

2:24

surprising each other. And as

2:24

we've done on some of these

2:29

St. So have we talked about

2:29

St. Valentine, Valentine, and

2:37

Mother Teresa. I guess Mr.

2:37

Rogers wasn't a saint. I mean,

2:43

but he was a Lutheran

2:43

minister. So that probably

2:47

Catholic saint. Yeah,

2:48

the pope didn't

2:48

recognize it. But we do. And

2:56

Yeah,

2:57

I think that's the only

2:57

ones we've done. But we tend

3:02

We tend to like to talk about

3:02

who these people are. It's

3:07

of people you've heard about,

3:07

but I guarantee nobody knows

3:13

St. Patrick, this might be the

3:13

oldest person that we've done

3:18

anybody older than this, right?

3:20

Yeah, we're gonna have

3:20

to get into caveman and stuff.

3:25

don't get older than this

3:25

Nostradamus?

3:28

No, because that was the

3:28

1500s I think. No,

3:31

okay. Okay.

3:32

I have to go look, listen to the show. Yeah, I've

3:34

kind of forgotten on

3:34

that one. Yeah. When was when

3:37

300 480 or something? 432 is

3:42

the best guess. Okay.

3:42

Did they have of this? Yeah.

3:46

was, you know, like,

3:46

October 4 for 32. At 6pm.

3:53

They think it's about

3:53

the fifth century is as well

3:57

so old and this would be St.

3:57

Patrick. We're talking about

4:02

Patrick hydrometric. Sad,

4:02

tragic. He's the primary saint

4:10

he was never actually

4:10

canonized because he lived

4:16

They still consider him a

4:16

saint, but he didn't have to

4:20

saintly hoops that somebody

4:20

like a Mother Teresa would

4:25

Right? Right. Yeah, he

4:25

kind of grandfathered that he

4:30

the grandfather. Yeah, the the

4:30

O. O 's the original saint.

4:36

So because there he was,

4:36

it was such a long time ago.

4:42

we're going to be talking

4:42

about today are sometimes

4:47

parables, or myths, or kind of

4:47

supernatural tales or

4:53

passed down so much. We don't

4:53

know if any of this stuff has

4:57

going to talk about mostly the

4:57

types The things that he is

5:02

kind of the legacy that he

5:02

leaves. You know, he was,

5:07

that he brought Christianity

5:07

to Ireland. Right.

5:11

But But one thing that

5:11

I think a lot of people debate

5:16

born, right? Because I

5:18

wasn't an English fellow

5:18

wasn't. Well,

5:22

some say English, some

5:22

say Welsh, which I guess is

5:27

know. But he definitely wasn't

5:27

Irish. No, no, not not

5:33

even say he was born in

5:33

Scotland. Right.

5:36

Right. Right. But you

5:36

know, when he was 16, he was

5:45

where it's just where the

5:45

Britain slave traders, right?

5:51

take taken as a slave to

5:51

Ireland. And you think that

5:57

you wouldn't be a Irish fan.

5:57

Right, right. But he went over

6:04

animal herder. Right. And but

6:04

he actually escaped.

6:09

Yeah, and I think he

6:09

actually, later in life said

6:16

something that he was almost

6:16

glad happened, because it was

6:24

had committed, you know, prior

6:24

and the sin of not not being

6:30

that. Yeah.

6:31

And I think that that

6:31

kind of repeats itself in the

6:36

about that, if if if you don't

6:36

repent, or if this doesn't

6:42

gonna happen to you. A lot of

6:42

those stories have to do with

6:47

think he just got on a went

6:47

onto a ship and then went

6:53

Yeah, became a deeply

6:53

religious man and became a

7:00

back to Ireland to then spread

7:00

Christianity to this this

7:06

suffered so much. Now, I don't

7:06

know how long he was. He was

7:11

know. Was that a couple of years? You know?

7:13

Yeah, I think they I

7:13

think they said it was around

7:17

stayed there as a prisoner for

7:17

about six years. So maybe from

7:26

20s. And then

7:28

those formative years,

7:28

when you think, yeah, be

7:33

And you wonder, you

7:33

know, when you think of

7:38

United States, we have this

7:38

vision of slavery as it

7:42

was horrible and brutal. I

7:42

imagine getting kidnapped by

7:47

experience. But you also

7:47

wonder if, you know if he did

7:54

Ireland during that time,

7:54

because it was such an

7:58

impressionable time and of his

7:58

life, huh,

8:01

yeah. Now, originally,

8:01

the only thing I knew about

8:07

that I had always been told as

8:07

a kid, was that he was

8:14

snakes in Ireland. Have you

8:14

ever heard that story?

8:18

I have heard that

8:18

story. As a matter of fact, I

8:23

because he brought

8:23

Christianity to Ireland, the

8:30

know, as sort of a reward from

8:30

God. But a lot of scientists

8:37

in Ireland that it wants to

8:37

ever hold of an environment

8:42

swim out into the sea, you

8:42

know, banished into the ocean

8:46

mountains and such. But, but

8:46

really, what is interesting

8:52

about it, you know, in the

8:52

Bible, the snake or the

8:58

for evil. Right, evil people,

8:58

evil thoughts, evil, evil

9:05

snakes the one that tempted

9:05

Adam and Eve. So if you think

9:09

metaphorically, when everybody

9:09

became Christian, they chased

9:18

Yeah,

9:18

that's, that's, that's a

9:18

more economical story for

9:23

goes that he was fasting on a

9:23

mountain, right? And that the

9:30

he chased them into the sea.

9:30

But then there's also a story

9:34

was demonic birds. Have you

9:34

ever heard that story? No, no,

9:40

the sea.

9:41

And didn't birds

9:41

evolved from snakes or from

9:44

this

9:45

was a long time ago. So

9:45

maybe that happened, but he

9:49

the mountain, and they say

9:49

that he ended his fast when

9:57

the Irish. So if you're Irish

9:57

and you die, you Gotta have an

10:01

judges you. And so there was

10:01

like this negotiation that he

10:07

me judge all the Irish and

10:07

also spare Ireland from all

10:13

Revelation, the yeah in

10:13

Revelation horrible

10:16

endings

10:18

right so that was the

10:18

deal that he then does fast if

10:23

spare Ireland of the final,

10:23

like got the final desolation

10:30

anything of that. So if you're

10:30

Irish, you're good.

10:33

Yeah, I mean, I guess

10:33

maybe if we want to we want to

10:37

need to move to Ireland right.

10:37

Now, did you hear anything

10:44

Patrick was actually not his

10:44

original name.

10:48

No, but I heard

10:48

something about the to Patrick

10:53

that there were to St.

10:53

Patrick's love this stuff's

10:58

because again, this was a long

10:58

time ago. Right? What was what

11:04

May one sec can't. It's

11:04

very unusual name. But here's

11:11

supposedly comes from an I did

11:11

not actually verify if this is

11:17

the interwebs. Patrick is, or

11:17

maybe it's potrykus. Or

11:24

sort of father. Right. So

11:24

Patrick is is Latin for

11:31

figure can also be Latin for

11:31

father figure. So that

11:38

called. Patrick was, that's

11:38

the Americanized version of

11:44

Huh. And like I say, in

11:44

Ireland, though, name is

11:49

Sure. All variations on

11:49

on the original Latin roots,

11:55

think about English as a Latin

11:55

based language, then that

12:05

you know, again, Patriarch,

12:05

patriarchal, all those kinds

12:12

noble. And so, yeah, that's,

12:12

that's supposedly where the

12:19

that was like his, his

12:19

clerical name, his religious

12:24

Maybe it was kind of

12:24

like his Irish name. You know,

12:27

sometimes well, yeah, like a,

12:27

like, Chinese or Korean people

12:33

their their real name is one

12:33

thing, and then they have an

12:37

it was kind of like that, you

12:37

know? Or, or when you call

12:42

a very thick Indian accent

12:42

says, Hello, this is Bob, how

12:48

similar, similar kind of

12:48

thing. It was the way he fit

12:53

having an Irish name, because

12:53

nobody's gonna want to call

12:59

doesn't sound nearly as good.

12:59

Yeah,

13:01

yeah, I suppose that's

13:01

true. So you think that was

13:04

later on, he would knew he'd

13:04

be a saint? And he would want

13:09

Americans?

13:10

I think yes. sound

13:10

better to Americans. That's

13:14

everything, right. It's gotta

13:14

gotta please, gotta please the

13:20

USA America.

13:22

Which wasn't a thing

13:22

back then. Right, right. The

13:30

that, to me, it's just all the

13:30

stories that come up the

13:36

like a biography of a life

13:36

that you could read about,

13:41

kind of interspersing these

13:41

stories, like I say, that are

13:45

concrete stuff about his

13:45

actual kind of life, that

13:51

Because I'm just full of the stories?

13:53

Um, well, I do know

13:53

that he supposedly in this was

14:01

angels, and God and had, you

14:01

know, God's the one that

14:07

from Ireland by boat. He was

14:07

he was visited by an angel

14:13

Ireland, as a teenager, he

14:13

prayed a lot and he grew his

14:20

voices guided him. One told

14:20

him to escape Ireland, from

14:25

is the one that told him to go

14:25

back to Ireland and bring

14:29

had enslaved him for all those

14:29

years. He also supposedly

14:36

about that? No. Well, in order

14:36

to become a saint, and again,

14:42

being grandfathered in. You

14:42

have to perform miracles.

14:48

miracle of feeding hungry

14:48

sailors by miraculously making

14:58

shore for them to eat. And

14:58

then Supposedly he actually

15:06

the dead. And some of them had

15:06

been dead for a very long

15:12

pretty intense miracles he

15:12

produced.

15:15

Yeah, I was gonna say

15:15

that it's so even if we were

15:19

canonization, he certainly

15:19

exceeds that standard, right.

15:25

However, these accounts

15:25

come from his own writings. So

15:32

not a thing in this case.

15:34

Wow. So you're claiming

15:34

that a person could lie about

15:39

Well,

15:40

if they were, if they

15:40

were around in like, 400 ad,

15:45

That's exactly the kind

15:45

of person you wouldn't want to

15:48

would lie about it.

15:50

But I don't see any

15:50

reason to believe that he did

15:53

who knows whether he told the

15:53

truth or not, but he wrote

15:59

refers to raising 33 different

15:59

people from the debt and self

16:05

feeding the hungry, much like

16:05

Jesus with the loaves and

16:08

fishes. Do you know

16:08

about dirais? Have you heard

16:14

So dirais was a chieftain. He

16:14

liked to be in the chieftains.

16:23

I don't know much about

16:23

him now. Okay. And they were

16:27

singer?

16:28

No, no, this is this was

16:28

a long time ago. This is the

16:32

dirais was a pagan chieftain,

16:32

as a pagan as someone who's

16:38

your religion, right.

16:41

I think actually, pagan

16:41

was its own thing, kind of

16:48

pagans worship nature, I

16:48

think, yeah,

16:51

that's what I mean by

16:51

not not religious, not in the

16:56

they were grounded into

16:56

nature.

16:59

Yeah. And if you think

16:59

about it, you know, if you

17:02

symbolism and the symbolism of

17:02

sort of that region. Before

17:11

pagan, right? It was a lot of

17:11

things that were almost like

17:16

Sure, but when you ever you hear about

17:18

pagans, it's usually in

17:18

opposition to religion, right

17:23

Yeah, we didn't like the

17:23

religious part, right. So this

17:29

boss. He wouldn't let St.

17:29

Patrick St. Patrick wanted to

17:34

hill. And the chieftain

17:34

wouldn't name dirais wouldn't

17:41

sudden, Gyrase horse was out

17:41

there grazing on the land that

17:48

and all of a sudden the horse

17:48

die, racehorses die. Oh, wow.

17:56

his men to go kill St.

17:56

Patrick. And they're getting

18:03

all of a sudden, dirais struck

18:03

with illness. Alright, so. And

18:12

to St. Patrick and I begged

18:12

him to heal dirais with holy

18:18

alright, well, I'll, I'll do

18:18

this. But you know, just

18:23

build that church up there. So

18:23

he heals them with the holy

18:28

horses and the diaries saved

18:28

and then the horses come back

18:34

Okay, okay. So that's

18:34

sort of that sort of tracks

18:37

raising the debt. Just

18:39

that whole idea of if

18:39

you do this, then this will

18:45

him with a bronze cauldron and

18:45

gave him the hill to build the

18:50

the head Church of Ireland.

18:53

Okay,

18:54

but there's that whole

18:54

idea of, you know, if you

19:01

happen. But if you are nice to

19:01

me, good things will happen.

19:07

it's a similar story about

19:07

crumbed of a guy named Tom

19:15

sent the bowl to kill St.

19:15

Patrick from Dove was a

19:19

bulls to go kill St. Patrick.

19:19

But the bulls upon seeing St.

19:27

lets itself be eaten.

19:30

Wow, wow. crumbed

19:32

have demanded that they

19:32

they returned the bull. So St.

19:39

to life without the meat, just

19:39

the bones and the skin just

19:43

life. And then one telling the

19:43

story crumbed of convert, like

19:49

converts to Christianity, and

19:49

then the other tail crumbed of

19:56

So So, so there's a lot

19:56

of variation,

19:59

both Those endings I

19:59

like both of those endings

20:03

impressed that he's like St.

20:03

Patrick are the best I'm, I'm

20:08

life. And then the other story

20:08

is the ball. The skin and

20:15

Well, first of all,

20:15

what kind of a name is

20:19

cool. It's

20:19

it's a CRO de UBH. Okay.

20:19

crumbed yes pronounced crumbed

20:29

dirais the other the

20:29

other diarrhea. Yeah, da i are

20:34

or the pagans. Yeah, those

20:35

are great names from

20:35

Nova and dirais. Yeah, and I

20:39

like chief of, of a

20:39

sort of religious movement.

20:45

paganism, a religious

20:45

movement. I wonder if he was

20:51

Oh, there you go. Like,

20:51

like the

20:53

Ronnie James Dio song.

20:53

Yeah, I was listening out this

20:58

with some do.

21:00

Did you ever hear the

21:00

innkeeper story? No, no, this

21:04

is new to me as well.

21:05

This kind of reminds me

21:05

of the kind of the St.

21:09

know

21:10

where he Yeah, like

21:10

raising the kids from the

21:13

around.

21:15

i What are those guys

21:15

like on patrol? When they just

21:20

What does that mean? Like they

21:20

just walked in? Yeah. Went

21:25

this in? Yeah. Just to see how

21:25

you how religious you are

21:32

was pretty nasty. Not great

21:32

customer service going on.

21:38

stars on Yelp. Did Exactly.

21:38

And St. Patrick was not

21:43

And he told her that a demon

21:43

was living in their cellar.

21:51

dishonest or rude to her

21:51

guests, the demon would get

21:58

Well, well, I mean,

21:58

wouldn't you want? It would

22:03

like unhealthy. Just

22:03

like like maybe in his powers,

22:08

he I think he ate

22:10

PHA tea.

22:13

Maybe I think he used

22:13

the word fatter. But the

22:17

gets fatter. It's getting

22:17

bigger and his powers are

22:20

just imagining like a

22:20

Jabba the Hutt kind of demon

22:25

being rude. I am growing large

22:25

with food and with your hands.

22:29

Yeah, that's true.

22:29

Maybe? I don't know. But he

22:33

rid of that demon in the

22:33

cellar was to change our ways

22:37

service oriented.

22:40

But that does sound like a Yelp review.

22:42

Yeah, he didn't. He

22:42

didn't probably use the word

22:47

Yeah. So So later, years

22:47

later, he went back to visit

22:55

she had changed her way. She

22:55

was serving whiskey to all the

23:01

into the cellar and the demon

23:01

was dying. And then upon

23:06

out in a flash. And so because

23:06

of this St. Patrick decrees

23:15

a whiskey in his memory on St.

23:15

Patrick's Day. This is called

23:22

Shamrock. And in some cases on

23:22

St. Patrick's Day, you

23:29

flower. Yep, you put it in

23:29

your whiskey or your beer or

23:35

And then when you get to the

23:35

Shamrock, you either swallow

23:39

shoulder for good luck.

23:40

This is like the worm

23:40

in mezcal, right?

23:43

Exactly. Less, less.

23:43

Less intense option. It's just

23:50

accidentally swallow it's just

23:50

like swinging a leaf. Or the

23:55

Yeah, exactly. Which is much

23:55

more trouble if you actually

23:58

yeah, that's gonna

23:58

that's gonna hurt going

24:01

okay. Well, interestingly,

24:01

they call that drowning the

24:08

interesting about that is do

24:08

you know, kind of why the

24:12

St. Patrick's Day. Does

24:14

it have something to do

24:14

with the three leaves in the

24:18

Yeah, yeah, it's

24:18

supposedly that was one of St.

24:24

he liked to use was the

24:24

Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

24:29

they are the same in one

24:29

thing, and yet they're

24:32

different, different parts of

24:32

the same thing. So it seems

24:38

religiously to put it into

24:38

whiskey.

24:40

But isn't shamrock

24:40

basically clover? Yeah,

24:44

yeah, I think shamrock

24:44

and clover the same thing

24:46

and clover is just a

24:46

weed, right?

24:50

Well, you don't smoke

24:50

it, or anything like that. But

24:53

it's mean it's something

24:53

you would see just out in the

24:56

legal and it's not like an

24:56

exotic Like plant, right? Oh,

25:01

no, no, it's

25:01

everywhere. It's everywhere.

25:05

then there is a special

25:05

Four Leaf every now and then

25:09

variety, which is very rare.

25:09

But you could come across a

25:13

lucky, lucky, right? Irish are

25:13

all about luck. You

25:18

know, you know, just a

25:18

little bit of an aside little

25:22

gonna care about, but I'll

25:22

tell the story anyway, I kind

25:27

kid where I could take pick a

25:27

clover, or Shamrock, and I

25:34

could sort of hold them

25:34

together, you know, break,

25:38

of them and then hold it

25:38

behind the one with the three

25:42

leave and the other has three

25:42

leaves. And it would look like

25:46

could hold it up in such a way

25:46

that little sleight of hand.

25:51

actually on a variety show.

25:51

That was my magic trick that

25:56

clover.

25:57

But there was nothing

26:00

that was not my only

26:00

that was a very minor thing

26:04

something I actually remember.

26:04

And I think I've even done it

26:08

you know picked up a picked it

26:08

up in such a way that it looks

26:14

want to know Alex if you

26:14

remember all of the because I

26:20

little bit of a tangent here

26:20

but the marshmallows in Lucky

26:26

since we're talking about lucky mean.

26:29

Yeah, and Irish and all

26:29

that.

26:34

Pink Hearts. Yes. Yellow

26:34

moons. Yes. Orange stars. Yes.

26:45

missing the one before blue

26:45

diamonds Greenlee yellow moons

26:53

Oh, green clovers? Yes. And

26:53

blue diamonds.

26:57

Blue Diamonds.

26:57

Interestingly, there are

27:03

Charms, the cereal. There are

27:03

actually seven Lucky Charms

27:11

bring you good luck. And

27:11

they're nothing to do with

27:14

ladybug. The four leaf clover,

27:14

a horseshoe, a rabbit's foot.

27:21

that is. The number 13 and

27:21

then certain stones.

27:26

So the 13 supposed to be

27:26

lucky. Yeah. Hmm. But that has

27:34

Has nothing to do with this episode. So

27:37

have you ever been to Ireland?

27:40

I have not. I really

27:40

want to go. I've been to

27:44

never been to Ireland. Have

27:44

you been there?

27:46

Yes. Yes, I was. I was

27:46

lucky enough to go to Ireland

27:53

four days. Yeah. And we did

27:53

not leave the Dublin area at

28:02

thought someday I want to come

28:02

back with my wife and do all

28:08

countryside. I made a point to

28:08

not do any of that and just

28:13

power the whole time. There

28:13

was 250 pubs within walking

28:20

Wow. Is a lot of drinking in

28:20

that culture. There's a lot of

28:27

much only three things. Get a

28:27

drink. Guinness. Jameson

28:35

any whiskey is like Guinness,

28:35

Jameson Whiskey, and cider.

28:40

I was gonna say, yeah,

28:40

as a matter of fact, I was

28:44

preparing for this. I was

28:44

looking at sort of some of the

28:49

course, they're stout.

28:49

Guinness is a stout, right.

28:53

understand, or according to

28:53

the internet, Murphy's Irish

28:58

Ireland and Guinness. Now. I

28:58

could be wrong. But yeah,

29:02

I mean, I was only in

29:02

Dublin. So I you might be

29:08

small area of town. But it was

29:08

it was there for for business

29:16

for academic conference. But a

29:16

friend of mine went with me.

29:24

of us, basically, just tooling

29:24

around getting in trouble. And

29:29

we went to parts of the

29:29

country where people were

29:36

here. You really are rough

29:36

place. You shouldn't be here.

29:44

a bunch of times, but it was

29:44

nonetheless it was it was fun.

29:49

fights. Very good rest of

29:49

folks, we've encountered

29:56

probably drunk, you

29:56

know, like, like, you know,

30:00

was on the edge of, you

30:00

know, Boston has kind of has

30:05

the edge of fighting you

30:06

very Irish. Yeah. Did

30:06

you ever read the book? Did

30:11

Angela's Ashes? No. It it is

30:11

really a testament to why

30:19

pissed off because it's very

30:19

sad and tragic. Just

30:26

these people keeps happening

30:26

to them over and over again.

30:29

but but also very funny.

30:29

Like, even when things were

30:35

there was always somebody with

30:35

a joke. Or always somebody

30:40

threatened to kick your ass.

30:40

They would say it in such an

30:46

want to add,

30:47

yeah, you'd laugh at

30:47

them. And that would just

30:50

You'd point and laugh and

30:50

they'd go, Ah, you seem like a

30:54

They'd say. They'd say

30:54

something to you, and you'd

30:59

truth? And they'd say, No, I'm

30:59

just taking a piss. I was

31:02

piss. Is it? Is it

31:02

taking a piss or taking the

31:06

I was just taking a piss.

31:09

And then if you rude if

31:09

you drink too much, that's,

31:15

Yes, if you drink too

31:15

much, so So

31:18

like here, if you ask

31:18

somebody, if they're pissed,

31:22

they're there. If you ask

31:22

somebody, if they're pissed,

31:26

Yeah. And then we're here like

31:26

this, Dan pissed.

31:30

And signals that were

31:30

hand signals that weren't

31:34

lot of cultural missteps. What

31:34

year was this? About 2006? I

31:43

were a bit more of a

31:43

wildcard back then I think?

31:47

would pull up two

31:47

fingers to order two beers.

31:53

you've face your palm towards

31:53

them, it's like giving them

32:02

you want it to you have to

32:02

face your back

32:05

to with constantly a

32:05

peace sign. And people

32:08

would be grabbing my

32:08

hand and say don't do that.

32:12

people were telling us not,

32:12

don't do that. Don't go here.

32:18

say this. It

32:19

actually doesn't,

32:19

you're making it sound a lot

32:23

It was just, it was a

32:23

cultural landmine in a place

32:27

there. Everybody basically

32:27

looks like me. And I'll be

32:31

went there. And it was a lot

32:31

of people that look like me

32:35

blinding trouble. No, it was

32:35

awesome. It was a great time,

32:38

just, I remember it as being

32:38

constantly like saying the

32:43

wrong thing. It's, it's a lot

32:43

different than say, going to

32:50

Cleveland. Right. You know,

32:50

but, and maybe because of the

32:59

I think I thought I was more

32:59

Irish than 14%. Yeah. But

33:05

about the Irish diaspora,

33:05

right, the people around the

33:12

know are where those people

33:12

live? Like, do you know where

33:18

I'm sure a lot of people in

33:18

Boston. I mean, what about

33:26

I don't know. I don't

33:26

know where else there are big

33:30

they say in the UK,

33:30

about 10% of the British

33:35

grandparents. There was a lot

33:35

of there was a lot of

33:41

surprising. Yeah. About

33:41

there's about 900,000 people

33:48

in Ireland that were born in

33:48

Ireland. But you know, there's

33:55

on between those two

33:55

countries. You know what they

34:00

and 90s between those between

34:00

England and Ireland.

34:05

I've heard this before

34:05

but I don't remember called

34:11

sounds that sounds like a

34:11

pitch from satchel page.

34:15

But this is again, when

34:15

you go there everything is

34:22

like they're calling this

34:22

horrible war, the troubles.

34:28

but it's in Limerick. So you

34:28

think Oh, that's cute. But you

34:34

driver told us that Limerick

34:34

he was saying it was a pretty

34:41

Limerick is basically if you

34:41

put a dome over Limerick you

34:46

Limerick and it'd be the

34:46

largest jail in the world or

34:49

the criminals are.

34:52

But I do think that I

34:52

do think the English tend to

34:58

that sort of chin up mental

34:58

ality so they're downplay

35:02

you said the troubles a very

35:02

non or understated way of

35:08

refer to the ocean as across

35:08

the pond or, you know, so

35:15

saying, it's just a pot, you

35:15

know, they, they understate

35:20

carry on. Yeah, certainly.

35:23

Well, the troubles were

35:23

pretty bad. In fact, they're,

35:28

to celebrate St. Patrick's Day

35:28

in the in the UK. And in the

35:33

bombs, you know, they still

35:33

have, they still have family

35:37

still have family feuds

35:37

between like the McGillicutty

35:44

it just seems so like funny or

35:44

something to us. But those are

35:48

like murder and bombs and a

35:48

lot of a lot of bad stuff.

35:53

So now wasn't the was

35:53

worth the troubles in Ireland

35:59

it's divided into two

35:59

countries, right? It's

36:04

Ireland or the Republic of

36:04

Ireland. Well, Northern

36:06

Ireland is part of the

36:06

United Kingdom. So it's, it's

36:11

under the reign of the Queen

36:11

at the time. The king, the

36:17

of the United Kingdom. And

36:17

then and those are, those

36:24

they want to and they voted

36:24

to, you know, they basically

36:32

The other part, the part that

36:32

we know is the Republic of

36:38

Catholic part. And they want

36:38

the all of Ireland to be its

36:47

know, so the battle between

36:47

loyalists and Republicans is

36:55

fierce and, you know, it's

36:55

cooled a little now.

36:58

Yeah, I was gonna say, hasn't that calmed down?

37:01

I mean, that was that

37:01

was 1990 98 is when they, you

37:07

really hasn't been that long,

37:07

you know, 25 years or so. of

37:12

peace. So on on the

37:12

island, there are two

37:16

Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

37:18

Well, really one country

37:18

because Northern Ireland is

37:23

Oh, oh, so no, but but

37:23

it's not. It's not it's not

37:30

it's actually Great Britain.

37:30

Yeah. I didn't actually didn't

37:35

they don't have like, so it'd

37:35

be it would be like Canada, or

37:42

part of the United States. And

37:42

it's like,

37:45

kind of Willy. Yeah,

37:45

sure. Sure. Sure.

37:48

I could see why it

37:48

would take off the Republic

37:52

Yeah, in fact, one of

37:52

the mistakes that we did was

37:57

rugby match. And we had it was

37:57

cold. And my friend had bought

38:04

match rom colored like the raw

38:04

had like the Irish flag. And

38:10

Notre Dame logo, like the

38:10

Fighting Irish guy, yeah. So

38:16

Irish flag. And we went into a

38:16

bar. And the bar was not a

38:25

even though it was in Dublin,

38:25

it was apparently that's a

38:32

thing to do to just like, roll

38:32

up with with that. And,

38:36

yeah, it's like, we're

38:36

in a Hillary Clinton campaign

38:41

more like a confederate

38:41

flag. But we were in what we

38:46

we thought it was we didn't

38:46

even know first of all, we're

38:49

And people come up to us and

38:49

go, Hey, are you Republican?

38:54

doing are like, the scarf?

38:54

What's the story with the

39:01

like if you want, if you don't

39:01

want trouble, you take the

39:06

just things like that. Just

39:06

we're just so stupid. We just

39:09

were they a little bit

39:09

more tolerant when they heard

39:14

Generally going from

39:14

Texas, or everywhere we went,

39:18

And then did they sort

39:18

of give you a path? Because I

39:21

probably, I mean, we

39:21

didn't ultimately get in any

39:25

a lot of fights and we're not

39:25

fighters were lovers. You

39:29

We'll say Patrick was

39:29

also a lover, I think, right?

39:33

Yeah, sure. Sure. Well,

39:33

you know, the Irish rebellion

39:41

616 41 When they were the the

39:41

Catholics were being

39:51

what would happen was the

39:51

England would send would send

40:03

there to the new world of

40:03

America, right? As indentured

40:08

why we have a lot of Irish

40:08

here. They came as indentured

40:13

famine. The population of

40:13

Ireland fell from like a

40:19

600,000. So like almost by

40:19

like a third, between 1641 and

40:27

population went down by like a

40:27

third. There was a big famine,

40:31

there's a lot of Americans now

40:31

here because people got sent

40:37

you know, 400 years ago. You

40:37

know, where else there's a lot

40:41

Argentina. Back they say, like

40:41

15% of the population in

40:52

have big St. Patrick's Day

40:52

parade and Canada, of course,

40:58

are Irish. In fact, in

40:58

Newfoundland, about 80% of

41:04

Okay, they settled

41:04

Newfoundland. They say,

41:08

in the world outside of

41:08

Ireland. You've been there,

41:13

I've been to Halifax.

41:13

But is, is a little further

41:20

yeah, in fact, the, you

41:20

know, the hockey team, the

41:26

to be called the Toronto St.

41:26

Patrick's like in the 20s. Oh,

41:32

is really

41:34

well, so. So you know,

41:34

you were talking about the

41:39

Ireland today is only 5

41:39

million people. Yeah. And so

41:46

Ireland than you do in the

41:46

Houston metro area. Isn't that

41:51

It really is an entire

41:51

and that excludes the two, you

41:56

Right, which is probably got I

41:56

don't know how many people are

42:00

million maybe. Yeah, everybody

42:00

else is maybe maybe bigger. I

42:05

spread out right up? Yeah.

42:08

Well, so for St.

42:08

Patrick's Day. You know,

42:12

people do they drink green

42:12

beer. They were green. Right.

42:18

connection, as far as I could

42:18

tell, was just having to do

42:22

right. Ireland is a very green

42:22

emerald. The Emerald Isle.

42:29

the not a lot of at least from

42:29

the pictures I've seen. And

42:36

there a lot of trees around

42:36

Dublin, or was it like more

42:40

I mean, again, I was

42:40

only in the city. But flying

42:45

Beautiful, dramatic

42:45

coastlines. Yeah. Very, they

42:51

Yep, they get a lot of

42:51

rain. So everything stays

42:55

that the native language is

42:55

Gaelic. Is that right?

43:00

I think officially you

43:00

don't find a lot of people

43:05

city. Right.

43:06

Right. But it's

43:06

historically you know, it kind

43:12

way you say or I've I've, I've

43:12

learned that the way you say

43:17

Gaelic is Lola panegyric, Sona

43:17

duet. Logan, Podrick. Sonia

43:28

And there are still

43:28

words that like the Prime

43:31

Prime Minister is called the T

43:31

Shah. T shirt was spelled. Not

43:40

Not like Tisha. There's

43:40

de SHA and Tisha,

43:43

you mentioned the green

43:43

bear. You know, you know what

43:49

Patrick's Day? No, they, they

43:49

make the Chicago River green.

43:56

coloring and into the end the

43:56

whole river. Chicago River is

44:02

Wow. They unhealthy?

44:02

Yeah.

44:06

And the largest St.

44:06

Patrick's Day in the world is

44:13

they picked March 17. St.

44:13

Patrick's Day?

44:15

Well, because that's

44:15

the day St. Patrick died and

44:22

I doubt they know what they

44:22

died. No, why did so. So hold

44:26

minute about St. Patrick's

44:26

Day. I kind of got under the

44:33

an American thing. Initially

44:33

with St. It was more of a

44:40

And it became more of a

44:40

cultural drinking celebration

44:44

because there were so many

44:44

Irish people here. And then

44:48

rest of the world. Is that

44:48

your understanding as well?

44:52

I don't know. It's hard

44:52

to it's hard to tell. I don't

44:58

Right. It's not like we get

44:58

the day off. Right, it's like

45:03

bigger than Cinco Demayo. But

45:03

not as big as like, you know,

45:11

it's definitely a party. The

45:11

thing about St. Patrick's Day,

45:18

our calendar. It's usually

45:18

kind of during spring break,

45:24

March 17, because it's the

45:24

middle day of spring in

45:29

Ah, okay, so that's

45:29

more of a pagan thing.

45:32

I'm guessing Ireland.

45:32

Spring doesn't last very long,

45:36

March 1 to march 30 or

45:36

something? Yeah. Yeah. March

45:43

the middle. I don't think

45:43

spring is really that long. I

45:48

celebrate this all over in

45:48

Sydney Opera House is lit up

45:55

that's interesting about St.

45:55

Patrick's Day, is that falls

46:03

so a lot of Lenten traditions.

46:03

You can't drink alcohol. they

46:09

Day where you're allowed to

46:09

drink alcohol during St.

46:14

beef. And so if you're

46:14

abstaining from meat and

46:20

it's like, if if it falls

46:20

during Lent, when some days it

46:25

some years it doesn't I think

46:25

you don't have to have to

46:30

do not have to abstain.

46:30

Interesting. I actually heard

46:33

this year, which will have

46:33

already passed when this

46:42

Wednesday falls on Valentine's

46:42

Day.

46:46

Oh, it did you mean

46:46

Yeah. Already did?

46:50

Yeah. It already did. A

46:50

month ago fell fell on fell on

46:55

lover a little ash heart?

46:59

Or shamrock shake? Did

46:59

you know those are good. By

47:04

shamrock shake now where do

47:04

you get him? to McDonald's?

47:10

Excellent.

47:11

I gotta try it.

47:12

I think you're onto

47:12

something though, with that

47:15

holiday. In fact, it's

47:15

customary for the Irish Prime

47:20

tea shop to meet with the US

47:20

president either on or around

47:27

Did you know that that's like

47:27

a tradition. I did not know

47:31

goes there or they come here.

47:31

But it's a very special

47:37

that it must mean more a lot

47:37

to us in that the Prime

47:42

time with the president for

47:42

there. In fact, the tradition

47:47

Ireland will present our

47:47

president with a Waterford

47:52

shamrocks. And this happens, I

47:52

think it happened started with

47:59

know Bill Clinton was doing

47:59

it? I don't know. The last few

48:05

But that's that's kind of the

48:05

the tradition. Of course, St.

48:11

bit of a bad rap these days

48:11

because of the kind of

48:17

drunkenness, and kind of

48:17

dressing like a leprechaun and

48:22

tacky.

48:23

Pinching people

48:25

who yeah, forgot about

48:25

that one. That's definitely

48:30

It if they're not

48:30

wearing green, they asked for

48:33

that's true. Some people

48:33

say it demeans Irish, the

48:39

some harmful effects of

48:39

perpetuating Irish stereotype

48:46

aren't to be taken seriously,

48:46

or just drunks or whatever.

48:50

Ireland, but I will say that I

48:50

didn't see the drunkenness as

48:57

mean, people I think can they

48:57

can handle their alcohol, but

49:02

fools. I mean, they're always

49:02

taking a piss. And they're

49:08

see the amount of public

49:08

drunkenness that I would see

49:16

Austin or Houston or

49:16

something. But I think that's

49:20

they're drinking is a part of

49:20

their culture, but think they

49:25

like a lot of European

49:25

countries. Yeah,

49:28

yeah. It's kind of if

49:28

you grow up with it, I guess,

49:35

You can't really do it to his

49:35

access, or you don't feel it.

49:41

oversimplify people's

49:41

relationships with alcohol,

49:46

their culture. And they, like

49:46

you said they try to keep it

49:51

it frequently. You

49:52

know, what else I

49:52

noticed was the role of the

49:57

be very different than the one

49:57

here the bartenders now Hear,

50:01

problems and not there to just

50:01

like, shoot the breeze with

50:06

stocking things and cutting

50:06

things and just very

50:12

to really take your order. And

50:12

then once that's done, they

50:17

But you're not just hanging

50:17

out with the bartender, that's

50:22

couple of times I tried to

50:22

strike up a conversation, and

50:26

like, I'm not here to talk to you.

50:28

I'm not I'm not going

50:28

to answer your questions,

50:31

scarf. You know, what's ironic

50:31

about that? What's ironic

50:39

the hit television show cheers

50:39

was supposed to be an Irish

50:45

that's all the, that's all the

50:45

bartenders did was talk to

50:48

customers, you know. The

50:48

other thing was the rugby

50:53

well is that people did not

50:53

move during that game, they

51:03

and down, like you see in

51:03

American sports. Once it was

51:09

emptied, and everyone went to

51:09

go get a shot of whiskey, and

51:17

to their seats. And the

51:17

whiskey. They just had a tent

51:23

was like, I think it was like

51:23

one euro or five euros. But it

51:30

where you just give them like

51:30

a no change being made no

51:35

efficient. And if there was

51:35

probably 20,000 People at that

51:40

and back in and had like a

51:40

shot of whiskey and it was

51:45

something like that. So it was

51:45

cold. And it was it was just I

51:50

efficient it was. And compare

51:50

it to American sports where

51:55

the stands. Were everyone's

51:55

always getting up to get a

52:00

paying attention to the game.

52:00

I really liked that. I thought

52:05

So so the drink of

52:05

choice at a rugby match was

52:13

Yeah, could probably

52:13

because it was cold. It was

52:16

both there was a Jameson tent.

52:16

And then there was like a

52:21

have been cider also being

52:21

poured was there

52:24

was there a clover tent

52:24

where you put your shamrock

52:28

so like, efficient. And

52:28

there were no seats, like

52:33

railing that I remember. And

52:33

you weren't, you weren't

52:37

place to sit, you just stand

52:37

on the railing. And you know,

52:43

minutes, and then you'd have

52:43

halftime and you stand for

52:46

you go out to the pub.

52:49

Sounds like a good

52:49

time. Well, you've added to

52:54

Oh man, Dublin is is a

52:54

good time. But like I said,

53:02

clock think that was placed

53:02

was called the clock, the pub

53:07

were telling me we and then

53:07

and the guy says what's the

53:14

mean? What's the story? And

53:14

apparently that's like how you

53:18

I'm like, What do you mean? What's the story?

53:21

You said? What's my

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story? You said? An American

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walk into a pub, man.

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And it's it is it is

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rough. Yeah. Is different

53:36

don't know if Rick Steves can

53:36

prepare you for what?

53:39

WWE RSD what would Rick

53:39

Steves do

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alright man Well,

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hopefully, people learned a

53:49

because that's exactly what we

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gave them a little bit.

53:51

A little bit of St.

53:51

Patrick's a lot of Ireland.

53:55

you know what? There's

53:55

not a lot about St. Patrick

53:58

guessing and a few a few

53:58

miracles. Sprinkle. He

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was a wee ethical lad.

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Paint. He was actually he was

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all right, man. You got anything else?

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That's all I got.

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All right. Happy St.

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Patrick's Day, everybody.

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The Shamrock

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gild the lily.

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Oh, I woke me up this

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morning and I heard a giant

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happy Irishman. 100,000

54:33

strong. It was the Hibernian

54:41

stop the big parade. So I

54:41

grabbed the hatchet man power

54:48

day and I want to tilted on

54:48

the side the good old Irish

54:54

waiver and the green flag in

54:54

the same time shoe you've

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day on the I agree. It's a

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great day all repair. The

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articulate Blarney you think

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at all New York was killed

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the Shamrock all the flags in

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full array. We have feelin so

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Irish. It's a great, great

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day.