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Check them out at dreamsunlimitedtravel.com. I

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am here at Baseline Tap House located

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at Disney's Hollywood Studios and today, as

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always, I have a very special guest,

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but an extra, extra special guest today

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because it's my friend Chloe. Hi Chloe.

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Hi. How are you? I'm

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good. How are you, Ryan? I'm

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very good. I'm glad to have you here. I'm so

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happy to be here. Can I give you a cheers? Yes. Okay,

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here we go. We'll do it right over the top of the camera. Good, good.

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So if we spill it, it goes all over the equipment. What are

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you drinking? So they've been rotating out the beers inside of here lately,

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which I enjoyed, like around Halloween,

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Thanksgiving. They had an Oktoberfest and then

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in December, they had the Sierra Nevada

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like celebration IPA and now they have

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a Sierra Nevada Imperial IPA,

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which is a 9.5% beer. And

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normally, Imperial IPAs, I feel like, are super bitter,

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but this one's pretty ... I feel

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like it's got a nice juice quality to it.

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It's good. I like it. It's

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less bitter than the stone delicious IPA, I

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think. And what are you drinking today? I

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have my tried and true Baseline Hazy

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Little Thing. I do love the Hazy Little Thing. That is

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usually my go-to. I like to try

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the new ones, but ... And we, of course, treated ourselves

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to a big pretzel. Oh, of course. Because it's big pretzel

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or it's charcuterie. You kind of get one of the two

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when you're here. That beer cheese. Mm, it's

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so good. I really should have just gotten two. I

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made the mistake of the mustard and the cheese. And

1:37

I like the mustard too, but it's like

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the cheese is always the empty one at the end. The

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mustard's always way too full, right? Yeah, right, right,

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right. So Chloe, today, I thought you and I

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could have a fun conversation because you are one

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of my friends that we met ... It

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was a while ago now. I mean, was it like 2019? It

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was here. Yeah. The

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going if it was a January two a

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to deter yeah think the beginning wrath and

2:04

because we that we got invited to arms

2:06

as he had like a Star Wars see

2:09

me anyway or yeah and it was like

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when you no longer available right now and

2:13

know and will know his memory which is

2:15

kind of city because a silly good working

2:18

better now without his edges open but it

2:20

was backed them when they used to show

2:22

you like okay you can do star tours

2:24

you can go into docking bay me characters

2:26

you can use to get to remember they

2:29

have the Star Wars fireworks. Yeah and

2:31

then the other litter Zardari and on my

2:33

guy and then outside chinese theater yeah the

2:35

sars virus that pirates and most part on

2:37

oh that that is or party was so

2:40

that oh and self area and. The

2:43

best friend the day though for me

2:45

was going inside start or and for

2:47

for the part of oh yes hours

2:49

ago that yeah later with the lights

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on that one thousand four total nerd

2:54

total nerds I'm asking for you and

2:56

that's I met my friend Courtney were

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and her and I don't hear our

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friends and looking at a bringing i'd

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rather odd thing is that a to

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and preparation for our thoughts about thinking

3:06

about our were both are both puzzle

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and. I

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don't I'm not a sign. Hard parents and

3:14

all other enough for I have so many

3:17

farmers memories with you. Specifically, so and so

3:19

strains like our celebration. an hour the

3:21

most hungry for ya on February third.

3:23

should we just go to celebration in

3:25

Tokyo is absurd. Stewart twenty Twenty five

3:27

left. Go. I feel like I'm I'm

3:29

ready for Soviet Afghan. And yeah, Marseilles.

3:31

The what this will be or my

3:34

first Marseilles. The minor We're going to

3:36

hear Orlando's not very excited about that.

3:38

How we have a lot of stuff

3:40

we're we're which. We just hours after

3:42

hours. Forty citizens. who can we have

3:44

our a walk picture on my the

3:46

my birthday last year. But yeah, yeah,

3:49

I had him fire and. Know

3:52

that and were also thinking are some see

3:54

the lightsaber Suffering from. Leaves Yes, we

3:56

are. Ya, I'm off and on a styrofoam and yes,

3:58

we will or not. Whenever any of us

4:01

ours is or me with this is

4:03

I'm talking about it is fine but

4:05

I feel like the thing that immediately

4:07

any would strike anybody about Who Meets

4:09

You. I think railway first call you've

4:11

got a wonderful sense of style and

4:13

fastening and as a bearing the day

4:15

but it's in I know. but I

4:17

have my favorite part of you. Love.

4:20

And the sounds you love your

4:23

like collect some yes yes I

4:25

mean you're wearing awesome thanks and

4:27

was What's great is like you

4:29

have a passion. For these you

4:31

know these these things sometimes of a time

4:33

gone by sometimes they're still with us. Like

4:36

the level of it. you know your diehard

4:38

mother person but and owner forget the for

4:40

some Immediately you had that starters button that

4:42

would like it was went from my way

4:45

back when or whatever. Yeah but I thought

4:47

it would be fine because there's been some

4:49

changes at Walt Disney World, a Disney Parks

4:51

and General or across the board that we

4:54

could have a phone conversation. You agree with

4:56

some you don't agree with some I thought

4:58

we could do a conversation. Of the disney

5:00

hill said we would die on because I

5:02

know recently there was something that happened and

5:05

you basically anybody that got was in your

5:07

vicinity you would talk about the zoo and

5:09

era like a whole article about it and

5:11

everything and so I was like to know

5:13

what we got to have this conversation and

5:15

yeah so yeah so I'm would you want

5:17

to do want to for your through and

5:19

what it was sort of I want to

5:21

enter a little bit closer know any of

5:23

my. Friends or maybe was seen as I'm sorry to

5:25

hear this again but also not. These

5:28

are killed by absolutely will die

5:30

a job so as to the

5:32

words. have thought To tell me

5:34

anything here doesn't mean anything for

5:36

the average guess you. On

5:40

an insane mean anything few.

5:42

Courses as under them. What

5:46

am I began? i'd argue the haunted mansion

5:48

i've me i mean i've said before that

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i think is the combination of like one

5:52

of the fast as the a because it's

5:54

as a lot of friends really need special

5:56

effects but the storytelling and it is also

5:58

really cool with them It's like the OmniMover part

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of it. And there's so many elements of it

6:03

where I was like, this is what, when

6:05

I think of a Disney attraction in its full

6:07

entirety, it's like that. And I say the same

6:09

thing about Rise of the Resistance in that same

6:11

way where it's culminating, it uses

6:13

screens, it uses projections, it uses all this

6:15

type of technology with it. And

6:17

Haunted Mansion, I think, was

6:22

a prior generation of that.

6:24

I mean, I know obviously you'd say, well, it's

6:26

more than one generation. But in terms of being

6:28

like, you know, next generation attractions, next generation attractions,

6:31

I think that Haunted Mansion is one

6:33

of those, like, just a great exemplification

6:35

of the things that Disney does. I mean, it's

6:37

one of the classics. It's been around for, God,

6:40

50, I don't even came into math right now,

6:42

54, 50, 50. Yeah,

6:44

I was like, it's not 55 yet, is it? No,

6:47

because it was 69 in

6:50

Disneyland. So I've

6:52

already had so many steps to do this.

6:54

Okay, well, this isn't a math podcast. No,

6:56

it's not, thank goodness. No,

6:59

so it's an original

7:01

story too. Obviously Walt worked on it

7:03

with his close

7:05

associates. But, and it stuck around, you know, it's

7:07

had updates through the years, including the Hatbox Ghost

7:09

over in Disneyland because he was once a long

7:11

lost ghost and- Which is a crazy story if

7:13

you don't know, I mean, I only know a

7:15

little bit about it because I didn't know the

7:18

whole thing with Hatbox Ghost was like, it

7:20

was there for like a day or something, right? And that

7:22

our day or two- It is, I've heard

7:25

different stories. I've heard that it was

7:27

a few days, like it was there

7:29

during Catherine's previews and in 67, am

7:31

I even getting the year wrong now? Don't question me in

7:34

the year. Is that the year that Walt does me back?

7:36

I don't know. Anyway, I'm not an expert. I'm

7:39

just gonna Google right now, so I'm sorry. Sorry, we're using

7:41

our phone. Yeah, I cannot

7:44

confirm that. But regardless. Anyways, yeah, it was a

7:46

few days, a few weeks, but have you very

7:48

few people got to see the Hatbox Ghost. There

7:50

was like one or two photos online that circulated

7:53

up until recently When

7:55

he finally was installed. I think it was during 2015 he

7:57

was installed. I think so, because I think it was that

7:59

first year. Then it is the land because I'm pretty

8:01

sure I had been on the address and around when he

8:03

was in. There was like some point nine year race. They

8:05

couldn't that. The

8:08

illusion down originally so when they finally

8:10

he was other modern technology that he

8:12

has a could get said. you know

8:14

the half asleep the site had has

8:17

yeah staring into the how far apart

8:19

seeing that it's in the attic to

8:21

necessary top boxes. Touch

8:24

with this is going. On! So finally

8:26

we had the surprise. That how boxes

8:28

coming. So on. And we were. Although they

8:30

announced that and forever ago. Yeah, The Twenty

8:32

Three, Twenty Nine. No, Twenty Twenty Two World.

8:35

Forty Forty Three. Who produces the first one?

8:37

I. Call

8:39

you have a three wheeled out egg

8:41

creme brulee thing for me and said.

8:47

That the announced that that's nice Honey

8:49

Honey Three in I was I may

8:51

have this year or not for twenty

8:53

twenty three that even going to be

8:55

an unhappy Han and he was going

8:58

into the endless hallway and already established

9:00

seen that has Satanism or that does

9:02

not need any more. Distraction.

9:06

For the. Most important part is that it's the

9:08

for sale. Which breaks

9:10

the story. Okay what about emails and I

9:12

don't care about the film? yeah don't care

9:14

much for some I so I'm not surprised.

9:16

I'm I'm fine, I'm like I I didn't

9:18

actually over to so either thing I compared

9:20

to is that is the sixth sense where

9:22

I was nice. I never if you don't

9:25

if you are some hey how able to

9:27

watch the six cents or know nothing about

9:29

it i'm zoc and know preview of ever

9:31

seen then you will watch that movie the

9:33

way was intended to were once Haley Joel

9:35

Osment said i see dead people send from

9:37

that point on in the. Film you see

9:39

ghosts ran for you do not see goes

9:41

before he says i see dead people for

9:44

you don't know what's wrong with them and

9:46

give do know it's goes for you don't

9:48

see them so after he says in that

9:50

movie and it's one of those like I

9:52

didn't realize that efforts because when I watched

9:54

it or not was really great when it

9:57

came out on Vhs years old and on

9:59

and he said. You know

10:01

I can, You know in the preview for in

10:03

the first thing in the freezer? And

10:06

so like sit right there that feeds. He says

10:08

there's very their twists in this movie. Honestly not

10:11

the biggest with of the move but that is

10:13

supposed to be as well as given right right

10:15

there on. The main thing was I and I

10:17

feel like I didn't think anything of it necessarily

10:19

where I watch the movie but now when I

10:22

watch and I might how yeah that is a

10:24

big giveaway. The same with that. I didn't think

10:26

anything of it when I saw a half of

10:28

Moscow's where he was with then. You

10:30

said that. things me about it. Free

10:32

radicals and you don't see any. you

10:34

don't actually physically. Sandy goes. I mean

10:37

you see the guy like trying to

10:39

come out of the coffin and the

10:41

doorways the you don't see a physical

10:43

and to see until after mountain Leo.it

10:45

right teams at the embassy, unloading candles,

10:47

the great on the plane and a

10:49

fifteen year old at options delay. my

10:52

brain can. We

10:54

know the reasons why they didn't want to close on the man

10:56

in front. Of no signs of money on the

10:58

somebody told me that they were he was intended

11:00

to be as a separate ways I did a

11:02

lot of research okay with that when they went

11:04

to put it into the like if it was

11:07

unknown also was the actual attic or for with

11:09

the her place but they went to put an

11:11

end and they couldn't like the setup for for

11:13

and that's also why he was delayed of hundred

11:15

projects and yeah structure the I had. For

11:17

some reason this box still requires just

11:20

as large as a film as the

11:22

that he does and have risk. One

11:26

at a. Set

11:29

of closing down the man wearing sunscreen and

11:31

and him somewhere where it makes sense they

11:33

put a monopoly because. The

11:36

cemetery with me some money and then if

11:38

they redid the the finale a photo hasim

11:40

seven thirty two kinds of places in Europe

11:42

the traps and like the good to new

11:44

looking and it of really don't like a

11:46

flat effects of years. our thoughts are on

11:48

that one but. Way what? What? Do it

11:50

was Honestly seven know. Where

11:52

they take photos of you with the ghosts in

11:54

your browser l the only two that I and

11:57

most of the world feels in on criticism and

11:59

so would have. No like the

12:01

isn't Silversea the have the pepper

12:03

go above. Where he's like the i

12:05

like your idea of your i'm thinking of. The

12:08

I guess you're right because even in

12:10

the Hudson Manson holidays still like yeah

12:12

the kids you know the lock. Stock and

12:15

Barrel and it's absurd to the pepper. Feel like pop

12:17

up for yeah? You're right, You're right. It's Hundred and Co has

12:19

ended up with. The charm of the

12:21

rest of the attraction. Yeah, I know and I don't

12:23

mean these are the i didn't like the. Thing. With

12:25

a pop him and they do They

12:27

never where do you know we have

12:29

a half are somehow like I know

12:31

he flew there the hallway and like

12:33

your resume is that he feels like

12:36

to me I thought at one point

12:38

when I. Saw I

12:40

have seen the new movie. Have you

12:42

seen the new movie? Okay and I

12:44

understand how Marshals is like a main

12:46

character. Never the. I don't like the

12:48

new movie that much. I it's fine,

12:50

it's okay, it's not enough apartments and

12:52

Crimson Peak at Emerge from Mississippi. And

12:55

the fleet. Of on meds and so

12:57

I've actually never seen Eddie Murphy one among silly

12:59

things of is so I have though I do

13:01

are fundamentally watched or seven months. I

13:04

know well and that's of the end of this

13:06

one is like there's a lot of weird a

13:08

light elements rise like. That's

13:11

a whole nother conversation, but. The

13:14

thing with it as a frame that are

13:16

so something like the main antagonists the that

13:18

movie and of the thing in the right

13:20

is as I was like to think wow

13:23

that is a half goes the narrator of

13:25

the ride Know ladies. Up the ghost

13:27

whole race as a separate person

13:29

to freeze. I've

13:31

model now. Come on. I don't know the

13:34

thing now. I fear member

13:36

of the only one. A question of

13:38

madam, what was her name Marla demands

13:40

and oh. Core

13:42

Lotta corn on the person animals is I

13:45

have no idea it was her name was

13:47

definitely Core Lotta Madeleine. Are lotta and

13:49

I had I said something like

13:51

he. Says something about an hour photo

13:53

zero zero below the i want to

13:55

see her again. And see,

13:57

recycle. We. Don't talk about him that

14:00

would like how me. There to got

14:02

see you soon as I get in

14:04

trouble. Slow your my bow What? you

14:06

may have trouble sounds good but I

14:08

couldn't. Believe. That I had already has his to

14:10

the anything because I think it would lead. To

14:14

week prior the movie came out. know

14:16

the movie Mountains why. Him out who

14:18

I was in like I'm hardly moderately cia and

14:20

or I like how right he already. Had

14:22

this cannon bad. the half. Of those

14:24

bombs the other you're on. The part about

14:27

is like even and Disney Land where he

14:29

is installed. I don't feel like it's consequences

14:31

for the attractive story whatsoever because is like

14:33

not mention there's no importation about him being

14:36

sensible in a way. And aside actor

14:38

and have enough has always been and

14:40

then and I know. And I mean

14:42

I'm yeah no I think Rise more

14:44

important army of my mind. I'm sorry.

14:46

I'm going to be honest, I first

14:48

had not gone on hundred and seven

14:50

hop hop on ago this week. But

14:53

I've seen photos and I've seen videos. Photos

14:56

were like it so I didn't say

14:58

one I had identified away or be

15:00

ambiguous. yeah I didn't like my friends

15:02

and around apply to where he is

15:04

because the and not the perform better

15:06

better here than he does. It isn't

15:08

like much clearer and you can see

15:11

him from existence so you have more

15:13

time to like gather what you're looking

15:15

at right so I I do things

15:17

are rational season hallway know or although

15:19

I know people were upset because even

15:21

after I have club serve our media

15:23

references are you know. I was out

15:25

zero life where I was worried about a

15:27

family trusts anything that the legacy a fraction

15:30

like this big thing I says and they

15:32

were like. A

15:34

cause I said oh woe is the Dharma

15:36

Zoc chair you know whatever says called the

15:38

Donald Trump their as it sounds silly oh

15:40

is it okay Armor on the dizzy treasure

15:42

was I recognized by the other simple putting

15:44

on fighter for it's my fourth no it's

15:46

fine I forget to do contact feel like

15:48

I'm so they were saying like is removed

15:50

from the it's gone out of the attraction

15:52

My son or you know people are going

15:54

to. From who? bad fighter? but I

15:56

would. But but in terms of like where it is

15:58

and what he's doing like. I

16:01

feel like they fit the best possible fast. They

16:03

could put a man because it's kind of like

16:05

that narration right there were. It's like the chills

16:07

running down your spine and like you see a

16:09

ghost Daily Gazette. like. I don't think the average

16:11

person's going to pick up on it and I'm

16:14

not saying that makes it okay where I'm not

16:16

saying immigration. There's a very large. Monument and fan

16:18

base. I don't care about the integrity of the

16:20

story. And the Trump's and right attitude he. Deserves

16:23

that integrity. And when I

16:25

see the Heisman. Why I

16:28

was just up and curious. I remember when

16:30

I moved here likes his as seventy so

16:32

that would I would argue that says for

16:34

some mike adult life I rode the attraction

16:36

and like you know come out with someone

16:38

i was a kid and then starting to

16:40

really try to be like what is the

16:42

actual story here and the ending like is

16:45

interesting yes the the story or is there

16:47

an actual story or are these like Mccartney

16:49

story will be a part Sorry I and

16:51

that's when I started learning about like the

16:53

Raven that's always around the Eiffel. there's you

16:55

know in the crawling. Out of the add

16:57

except for you turn around go backwards because

17:00

I'm terrified of that for I would fall

17:02

out of the thing backwards themselves. But like

17:04

you know things like that that I was

17:06

I I don't know. I'm not saying they're

17:08

not there, but I don't know that. There

17:11

are a brief simply clear know. It's not

17:13

an. Animal

17:16

had argued know not everything has to be

17:18

children and storytelling. I would. I would argue

17:20

that surveys Ohio. But I argue that

17:22

it really takes away from liotta

17:24

scarcer because that seen as a

17:26

courtesy that it's such a big

17:28

wow Thoughts are going from the

17:30

say on seen floating objects. Is going

17:33

in the spirit favour there and her head

17:35

is in a bowl floating rate. And then

17:37

you had a big wow moment of the banquet

17:39

scene and that is the most feared that you

17:41

be suing different thing and I just. going and

17:44

out cylinder feeding for that they begin to

17:46

serialize i lived there are things and that

17:48

were literally i didn't know the it'll go

17:50

out was like saw it was one of

17:52

those says oh mama you know and i

17:54

am i love that but it's no time

17:57

it's us or how i feel like it's

17:59

doesn't make sense Right it won't make sense.

18:01

Yeah, you know what else doesn't make sense. What we need a

18:03

new bride We need

18:05

a new bride. We need a new bride a

18:07

new ride period ride. Oh, right Right.

18:10

I'm like, we're not scary. We've had scarier additions

18:13

in the past and like I feel like we

18:15

need I'm touching my mic again I think

18:17

it's your anxious I'm

18:20

sorry. I'm not I'm fine. I think I think

18:22

that I Think our

18:24

bride is better than the Disneyland bride. I think like

18:26

he's a little more three-dimensional The one

18:28

over there looks a little like flat face, but both

18:31

both are not anything right Oh, no, we need a

18:33

scary. Have you seen the photos of the skeleton with

18:36

like the red glowing eyes? It's like

18:38

she's really like a skeleton base like very Was

18:41

that is that one of the in the

18:43

international perks like very missus bait? Yeah

18:46

scary good No,

18:49

it was I world and land. I want to say a couple

18:51

years ago. I don't know my history right now Is

18:53

it pre was it her free

18:55

free projection? Yeah I

18:58

feel like we deserve a better one now that we have a new half

19:00

box Well, I also think I honestly I feel like

19:03

in terms of like pushing into a character I'd rather

19:05

they have leaned into that bride a little bit

19:07

more because I feel like she's got a bigger

19:09

story And that's kind of my problem with the new

19:11

movie to where I was like, yeah, yeah I'm

19:14

like But I'm like this

19:17

lady lives in this house and murdered how many

19:19

people that live in this house Why is she

19:21

not the main character like I don't get it

19:23

but well that's a Disney Hill you

19:25

die on for sure And I can't wait to

19:27

see what the comments are gonna say about this one, but okay So

19:30

you know you you asked me before we started what was

19:32

one that I had cuz I was like, I don't know

19:35

But I I think one that comes up for me and

19:38

I know this one isn't as big a deal or

19:40

isn't as like minutia Is yours or anything like that?

19:42

But for me, I think mine

19:44

is like the dinosaur is a valid

19:46

attraction That deserves the praise and

19:49

worth that it never gets like

19:52

Cuz my thing is when I was a kid

19:54

and I came to Walt Disney World and I'd

19:56

go to Universal Studios as well You know, we'd

19:58

either do Magic Kingdom and Universal Studios Studios or

20:00

Magic Kingdom and Epcot. And

20:03

I am afraid of heights, so it means I'm afraid

20:05

of roller coasters, I'm afraid of all these things. I

20:08

was a very scared kid, I'm still

20:10

scared of adults too, so I'm not

20:13

gonna hide behind that too much. But

20:15

one of the first attractions I ever

20:17

did that was like a scary roller

20:19

coaster attraction was the Back to the

20:21

Future attraction at Universal Orlando. And that

20:24

was a motion simulator car that raises

20:26

you up and you're like an IMAX,

20:28

what? You can eat in my diet

20:30

store. Yeah, you can eat, and I remember the part

20:32

where the dinosaur like chomps down on it and shakes

20:34

you. And I remember when we got

20:36

out, I told my mom, I was like, mom, this

20:38

was the coolest thing I've ever done and it wasn't

20:40

even like a roller coaster, it wasn't whatever, and we

20:42

traveled through time. And so like when I came, I

20:44

didn't go to Animal Kingdom

20:48

until my grad night in like 2003.

20:52

And I think the

20:54

first time I ever rode dinosaur was

20:58

when I moved here like 2007. And

21:01

I remember being like, that

21:04

ride is terrifying. But

21:06

what was cool about it was I was like,

21:08

the way it shook you, the way you shake,

21:10

like where it wasn't, there were no heights involved.

21:12

But there's still like that part when you drop

21:14

in the Jeep where they're like, whoa, and the

21:17

pterodactyls are coming in. The darkness, and the

21:19

intense audio. Yeah, and

21:21

the whole thing and like the fact that the

21:25

car notorious like runs at the car in that

21:27

one car, but then when the car stalls and

21:29

he comes down and that's the photo op. And

21:31

I always remember being like, that was my favorite

21:33

place to bring people for a photo op. Because

21:35

everybody always got spooked like that one part. Some

21:37

of the best on-line photos are from that attack.

21:39

And that's the thing where I'm like, what's great

21:41

about a ride like that to me, and I

21:43

think a lot of people don't put themselves in

21:45

those shoes, is that like, it's that

21:48

kind of in between. Like if you're not

21:50

a roller coaster person, if you're not, you

21:52

know, for motion sickness reasons, or fear of

21:54

heights, or whatever. This ride is such, there's

21:56

no other ride like it, where it is

21:59

a physical environment. where you are

22:01

like, it is exciting,

22:03

it is thrilling, and it is scary.

22:06

And that's why I was like, this ride is

22:08

so cool for that reason around because it gives

22:10

me that roller coaster thrill and that adrenaline rush,

22:12

but it doesn't have that thing. And I feel

22:14

like everyone just tosses it away with a go

22:16

Dardis or oh Indiana Jones. And I'm like, I'm

22:18

sorry, I didn't go to Disneyland until 2015, and

22:20

yes, I am obsessed with Disneyland. But

22:23

it is a different experience. Even

22:26

if they're like, it's the same ride track, whatever.

22:29

I've been trying to put my mind in that and being

22:31

like, okay, so then we do this here and that here.

22:33

I don't feel it, I don't feel it. Honestly,

22:35

they could put Indy here at

22:38

studios, and then,

22:40

sorry, they could put Indy

22:42

here at studios, and

22:46

then have dinosaur keep, maintain Dylenin dinosaur at

22:48

Animal Kingdom, that would be better than what

22:50

they want to do. Yeah, well, so my

22:52

thing is too, here's the thing, I was

22:54

thinking about this this morning. Because they're completely

22:56

different, is my point. I am not gonna

22:59

die on a hill in sake of

23:01

Dino Land USA at all. I think the rest

23:04

of Dino Land USA is true. Sure, what's dinosaur?

23:06

I'm not into it, but I was like, you

23:08

could at least re-seem it and keep it what

23:10

it is. Like leave it, it's off to the

23:12

side of something, and I get it, it's like

23:14

the college students who went to the thing and

23:16

they're doing their thing, and that's the

23:18

whole scene. It's a cute story, but it's a cute story

23:21

made up for lots of budget cuts that happened back in

23:23

the day. And that's the thing where I'm like, with no

23:25

time in the world, have you been in, have

23:28

you been in Chester and Hunter very recently? There's no roller coaster

23:30

and it's just fence. Yeah, and I don't get

23:32

that, you know. It does not feel like it

23:34

would be right. And listen, I want all those

23:36

Dino Plushes and I'm all about it, because I'm

23:38

like, and there are some proud

23:40

possessions of mine, but I'm like, I

23:43

think there's a better use of space, but I

23:45

would argue, do not get rid of dinosaur. Just

23:47

let it be its own little nook.

23:50

And you can re-seem the rest of it that you

23:52

want. There's plenty of room there without taking this guy

23:54

out. And that's where I'm like, so that's the hill

23:56

I'll die on. I will train myself just to the

23:58

XO. it to the Sioux

24:00

fossil, which by the way, I finally went to the

24:03

Chicago Field Museum and saw a real Sioux. She's

24:05

way bigger than that. Oh really? She's

24:08

thick. She's wide, she's big. So

24:11

that is a mold, they said it was a

24:13

mold of those things, but it

24:15

is put together way smaller. Oh yeah.

24:18

Wow. If Sioux's had an animal kingdom

24:20

like this, the real one's like this. It was massive.

24:22

It was really cool. Honestly, the Field

24:25

Museum was amazing too. Like I want to go

24:27

back there because there were so many like dinosaur

24:29

stuff and I love dinosaurs and it was like...

24:31

Well there's Chicago, so cute. That makes

24:33

sense, right? Yeah. Geographically? Well, Ken's

24:35

in Milwaukee, we can go to Chicago, Milwaukee, and

24:37

we'll do a whole thing. Yeah.

24:40

So, alright, we've got enough time for you to talk about

24:42

one more hill that you would die on. Oh,

24:46

I think that the other hill that

24:48

you would die on is at Disney's

24:50

Hollywood Studios, or I should argue, was

24:52

at Disney MGM Studios. Yeah. Yeah.

24:55

Disney's Hollywood is now where Mickey and

24:57

Minnie's Runaway, Whereaway currently occupies the city.

25:00

Yeah, great movie ride. Great movie ride. Love great

25:02

movie ride. Okay. Opening

25:04

day attraction. The entire reason this park exists

25:06

in the first place. I don't care what

25:09

growing pains Disney's Hollywood Studios, Disney's Great Movie

25:11

Adventure, Disney's MGM Studios, Studios for what I

25:13

call it now. I

25:15

don't care what kind of growing pains it goes through.

25:17

The heart of the park was the great movie ride

25:20

and the hill I'm going to die on

25:22

is they could have kept it because

25:25

we're all about adding capacity,

25:27

not replacing things. Right? Right.

25:31

It'd be nice if they did that one. Ideally. I

25:33

mean, that's what Magic Kingdom keeps doing. There's room at Hollywood

25:35

Studios to put Runaway Railway somewhere else.

25:38

Good luck. Yeah, we didn't need to

25:40

take away great movie ride. Okay. Let

25:43

me ask you this. Have you been to

25:45

the Mickey and Minnie's at Disneyland? You went

25:47

through the queue and everything, right? Yeah. This

25:49

is what really nailed the coffin for me

25:51

was I was accepting of it. I

25:56

met Rhino a while back at the Star Wars

25:58

event because we worked media events together. Am

26:00

I right about the are temporary files with hadn't

26:02

said they've been a great money. And

26:05

runaway railway with my first sixty about those

26:07

trying to go into it with my to

26:10

I think actually or know I'm online I

26:12

went oh yes yes are worse than the

26:14

opening galaxies x ray I just saw it

26:16

on mars like I said but that was

26:18

the first. like big thing like run run

26:21

away with a big one. they did everyone

26:23

and literally stop was a runaway was also

26:25

few weeks before they close the first for

26:27

coburn literally I remember the next day I

26:29

was. Getting on the plane to go Milwaukee right? and

26:31

then when I came back from Milwaukee that weekend as

26:33

that week when I got an hour we gotta we're

26:35

announcing that I got the I that a really fun

26:38

of him and I think that we're going. To. Be the

26:40

same know but there was a huge amount

26:42

and I and I didn't have a railway

26:44

you know with an open mind thinking you

26:46

know I know when you family interaction here

26:48

I overheard him as near thing thing for

26:50

the building. A

26:52

seat that they needed some size. High

26:54

ceiling, so building. Pushed. Him another could

26:57

really be around seven. Rafferty

26:59

Summer and. I

27:01

guess it. I remember I could sit. no, you're fine. Grit

27:03

in the right was one of my favorite A Toxin. Is

27:07

the reason why I love him and

27:09

our side and seen her some us

27:11

today. It was such a different immersive

27:13

experience. The top with the copper interaction

27:16

with I mean amazing. Is nothing ever

27:18

like that me many jobs are several

27:20

friends but still got that same to

27:22

posses other same level now local authorities

27:24

now in my dream. Role growing up

27:26

I memorized the scribes. I still have

27:29

the proponents of the say like I

27:31

was obsessed with a Saxon probably than

27:33

unhealthy level and I understand things changed.

27:36

I could argue that has it in

27:38

a large content library now Even a

27:40

thing that surprises me Fund rise and

27:42

they are now. They could have six

27:45

as hands of content without having to

27:47

pay licenses for Excellency. So my plane

27:49

winter Zealand only open their and I

27:52

saw that the So buildings the So

27:54

says. Look exactly the

27:56

same for the ceiling and

27:59

needed. Pick Up Over gives

28:01

up a comeback, see things which is very precious and

28:03

Disneyland I'm. For All yards. And not only

28:05

Brussels. Yeah, I was max out very

28:07

mad. I will never forgive them out. Never get

28:09

over the great movie ride. Been gone. I

28:12

will ever be over and I can talk about the forever so

28:14

you set. Me: Up for hims! Oh no no

28:17

no there's nothing wrong with their size. I

28:19

saw a post on i'm a Citizen Food

28:21

Blogs today where on of one of the

28:23

i can remember name and I feel terrible

28:25

thing that but she was on of the

28:27

phone and said brig great movie ride back

28:29

and was in front of this another gone

28:31

Chloe would love the like but I I

28:33

am so I was so sounds Islam for

28:35

the design Half marathon am I was there

28:38

I chose to go with friends. We went

28:40

into. We we rode

28:42

over well with any and her husband and

28:44

then my friend. Nicole and I we

28:46

went on i'm missing minutes runaway were

28:48

awake as they hadn't done it yet

28:50

and I was like overseas a big

28:52

deal over to their horrible oh god

28:54

oh good because also it is like

28:57

it and it fits perfectly. Word is

28:59

there. That's the thing if any man

29:01

some me me even though we had

29:03

a here first the fully realized version

29:05

of what that is is it as

29:07

England and because it's in a land

29:09

where it belongs as a singer been

29:11

I'm not saying that it's not. Funny,

29:15

they brought. The ceiling because my thing whenever I

29:17

write it is I was this assumes that

29:19

I'd like to big Wow was like i

29:21

feel like I'm in a warehouse and they

29:23

didn't tap Worth star and I pointed a

29:25

collapse of the great movie ride. Everyone is

29:27

weird because your life you're like why is

29:29

it so tall for no reason and it's

29:31

not like my psychos up. it's just like

29:33

up to a certain height and that's that

29:35

same height. It isn't clear view. I don't

29:37

know that I'd argue that but. I'm

29:40

I definitely the right has grown on me.

29:42

I do enjoy the a fraction and I

29:44

am not somebody who. Would fight for the

29:46

great movie ride. However, I would fight

29:48

for concept of the great Yeah what

29:50

are you said? Like I agree with

29:52

that. They'd never for a man once

29:54

Once once Mcm became Hollywood Syria which

29:56

was like two thousand and eight I

29:59

think. Com. Once that

30:01

happens, and you're right, Disney never

30:03

exploits their own movie library the way they

30:05

should. And I would still love, not I

30:07

would have loved, I would still love a

30:09

dark ride attraction where we are going through

30:11

the dioramas of the different movies that come

30:13

to life and kind of try and get

30:15

us. You know, like we had Indiana Jones

30:17

was a part of it in

30:20

Great Movie Ride, right? And you know, and

30:22

like stuff like that. Like I do think

30:24

Great Movie Ride, the movies they chose, you

30:26

know, beyond like Mary Poppins and Wizard of

30:28

Oz and Indiana Jones, were incredibly

30:31

like misstated. I mean, but then

30:34

you think like we've got to go through Alien. Yeah,

30:36

I was gonna say Alien, which they now own. And

30:38

that's the part. Well, Alien could have easily become Star Wars

30:40

though. And I'd be okay with that. I

30:42

would miss Alien. I don't know that I would want

30:45

a Star Wars, but I would have loved, I

30:47

would love just something that goes

30:49

through even like Swiss Family Rob.

30:52

If you want to keep it old, let's go

30:54

through a Disney library. I like

30:56

Swiss Family Robinson. I love Swiss Family, I haven't watched

30:58

it in my film. Is that any more relevant than,

31:00

what would that be more relevant than? I mean, Tarzan,

31:02

I guess. I would think over the jungle scene really

31:04

well. I'd argue like a lot

31:06

of, if you're trying to keep it in a Disney IP.

31:09

Right. Like I'm not saying more

31:11

relevant than Casablanca, which is one of the, you

31:13

know, what arguably people say is the best movie ever made. I

31:16

don't love Casablanca, but that's just my taste and

31:18

it's fine. You know, but like, you know, like

31:20

get rid of the gangster scene and turn it

31:22

into The Great Mouse Detective or something. I mean,

31:25

I don't know if you can do with your

31:27

animation. You can keep it live action. Of course,

31:29

I love it. Yeah. My favorite Martian, you know,

31:31

like, sorry. I feel like, you know. Anymore? Well,

31:35

I'm trying to think. How do animation live action, like the 1990s?

31:38

What was the Dick Van Dyke movie with the

31:40

monkey and the, he had a monkey, it was

31:42

on an island. It's

31:44

like, it's like something Caruso as well, because

31:46

he gets stranded in a submarine. I've never

31:48

seen that. And it's like Lieutenant Caruso. Oh,

31:50

I watched it. I love Dick Van Dyke.

31:52

So I watched like everything when I was

31:54

a kid, but it is a Disney movie

31:56

too. We're discussing this later. What's the, the

31:58

tennis shoes, the tennis shoes. Genius War Tennis

32:00

Shoes. That's Kurt Russell's like first Disney movie.

32:04

Yeah. Okay. I'll go deep for you too. I mean, I've never

32:06

seen it. But I just, I can't remember the name of it.

32:08

It's what they say about the button. Where's

32:10

that? You know, there's

32:13

two of those. It was a remake

32:15

with Christina Ricci. It just deserves to

32:17

be here. Yeah. So I'm just saying

32:19

like, I love the concept. I

32:21

don't know that our version, and I'm not

32:23

saying our version deserves to be torn down

32:25

and bulldozed. I'm just saying. It's a nine

32:28

animatronics rhino. Well, and that's the thing I

32:30

would have, and I'm not saying I didn't get emotional in

32:32

the end when they showed that, you know, good morning Vietnam.

32:35

I would have loved something that honored,

32:37

that was ripped out and was redone

32:39

in a modern fashion with modern animatronics

32:42

and stuff like that. And that customer interaction,

32:44

because honestly, we don't really have a lot of that.

32:46

We don't have a lot of that anymore. And

32:49

I would hope in today's day and age that

32:51

customer would be well compensated for their extra,

32:53

you know, going into a more entertainment

32:55

role. I don't think that's true.

32:58

Maybe one day I could just hope. But

33:01

no, I think that was such a different experience.

33:03

I remember going to the last day of the

33:05

great movie ride and cast managers, guests, they were

33:07

also emotional. I feel like there's not been an

33:09

attraction like that that had that big of an

33:11

impact on people over the years. It was almost

33:13

30 years old by the time it closed. Again,

33:16

like I said, the reason why this park even exists is

33:18

because the great movie ride, because Michael Eisner said, Hey, let's

33:20

move this film. When was it the first time you came here? So

33:23

how old were you? I'm

33:25

zero. Could you grow up in

33:27

Florida? Yeah. And so I'm just

33:29

curious about that connect that like,

33:31

Oh, I was very indoctrinated onto

33:33

the great movie ride. Well, yeah.

33:35

In everything. Yeah. Well, no, I

33:38

digress. No, no. And

33:41

I love it. Well, and I would love

33:43

to hear what anybody who's listening or watching to this thing,

33:46

Disney Hills, that they would die on, because I

33:48

think we should have a follow up conversation with

33:50

whatever people say. I think that would

33:52

be fun. So leave comments on this video if you're

33:54

watching on YouTube or. If you don't agree

33:56

with me, that's okay. I want to see your comment. Yeah. Leave me

33:58

a post if you go to this. I

34:00

created a thread where it was like rhino's thread or

34:02

whatever and or however you can get

34:04

the information to us Let's do it and I'll have

34:07

Chloe back and we'll we'll do another because I'm

34:09

sure that we're gonna finish this and be like

34:11

Oh, we we know what we're talking a lot. We're

34:13

having a follow-up conversation. Yeah, sorry, Peter got video

34:15

about We

34:17

can but But

34:21

our drinks are running low so we at least need to

34:23

get up and get round two So that is gonna do

34:25

it for this half house talk. Thank you Chloe for joining

34:27

me It's a fun see you were worried

34:29

about the time and we threw a flew by Yeah,

34:33

it's okay. We both were banging the table. I'm holding

34:35

the edge of it right now cuz I was I

34:37

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34:39

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34:46

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35:13

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35:15

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