Rob Pugliese joins Travis and me for this episode. We bemoan our positions as straight white men in the entertainment industry. We talk about his experiences in AA and his struggles with feeling spiritual. Rob airs his grievances about religion. I try to set him straight.

Rob is a fantastic comedian, one of the stars and creators of The Red Rob Roy Show, and a good friend of mine. You can catch The Red Rob Roy Show on Amazon Prime, Vimeo, and Tubi. You can also visit its homepage at theredrobroyshow.com. You can follow him on socials @robpugs on Twitter and @robpugscomic on Instagram. Find out when he is performing and go see him. You will not regret it.

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