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Demond: Welcome adjuticators Demond: to another episode of Disputed, where two fictional

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characters go head to head armed with only their advocates, and

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you will decide the outcome.

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Everything is

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Demond: disputed. Dean: I will

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Acadia: decide the outcome. I get

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Bryan: to decide Dean: the general you.

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The general you. I was just a corporal.

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You . Actually, I was a specialist.

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Uh, how you doing,

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Demond: man? I am well.

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Life treats me pretty well. It, uh, you know, you roll with the punches and, uh, I get to

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do things like this, to keep things, uh, level balanced, if you

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Dean: will. Uh, yeah, I just, you know, I need, I need some balance and, uh, now

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I'm off work until, uh, the 21st.

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I go back to work. I take, I like to take off, uh, Veteran's Day, uh, and my birthday week.

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So cuz I was veterans, so happy, uh, I, Happy Veteran's Day to all

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my service siblings out there.

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Uh, I hope everybody's doing good. Uh, if you're not you, uh, and you need to talk, you can always reach out.

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Uh, and me, uh, Renee and Cario who's been on here before and

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has on been on, how are you now? Uh, we are, we are always sympathetic ears to our, our service siblings.

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So, You can, you can find us at tulu on, uh, on, on the, on the tweets here.

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Uh, you can come to at disputed pride as well.

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But, so, but anyway, um, thinking of my, my, my, my brothers, sisters

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and others, uh, in, in service.

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Right. Do you have any, uh, you have any folks been in the surface here, Desmond?

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Demond: Um, not in my generation of family, but like my dad, like that line,

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like a bunch of my cousins uncles, uh, my father, uh, my grandfather, my, I, uh,

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I think grand fought in the Korean War. I've got an uncle, uh, that retired, uh, probably 10, 15 years ago.

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So I've got a lot of family that's been in the Dean: military.

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Right on. I, I mean, yeah, I, and I know a lot of us, uh, Myself, . Well,

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I will speak for myself. I was poor and, uh, I wanted to go to college.

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Uh, and so that's why I signed up. Um, initially I was like, Yeah, it's military.

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They're cool, they got stuff, and maybe I can go to college.

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And, uh, I ended up going to war while I was in, but, uh, I hadn't expected

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it had been, you know, quiet for a bit.

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Uh, so I was, you know, but I, I, I came out unscathed.

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Fortunately, I was in the, uh, the first Gulf War, um, in artillery, which

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explains why I don't hear so well anymore. . Yeah.

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But, uh, yeah, I, uh, it was an experience.

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It was, uh, I don't, I don't, it's not something for everybody.

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I'm, I'm, I can't even say it was for me , but it was, it was an experience.

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So, uh, what do you say, Damon?

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What do we, uh, tell folks who we. Demond: Alrighty, what's up, blurs and nerds?

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I'm demand father of two, husband of one, and I am the sensei

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of seven syllable silliness. You may know me from such podcasts as Demand Does and in the Stack the

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Library podcast, and I am the Stan Laurel of the dispute of podcast.

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Dean: Very nice. Very nice. Well, thank you and welcome, Adjudicators.

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I'm Dean. I am the Oliver Hardy of the show.

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The, and I am bigger and rounder. Uh, you can find me on so many podcasts, I've lost count, uh, however

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you can head over right over to pod secure.com and check them all out.

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I've been on 'em. Uh, there's some other ones that are, aren't, aren't even

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on there that I've been on. Uh, uh, in fact, we just did a big, uh, table read with how, on, how are

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you now with the, what's with the folks over at, uh, Produce Stand as

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well as, uh, I think there's Brian who will be bringing here a bit.

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He's, uh, he's got his podcast, so yeah, it's a big family

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of, uh, of Degenerates over Acadia: there.

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. So, Demond: yes. Dean: But yeah, if, if you get a chance, go out to, uh, go out,

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check out the, our last table read. We did the, uh, letter kitty, season two, episode three,

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relationships table, read live. And it was a lot of fun and there was so much.

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I mean, the episode, if you look at the Hulu episode, , it's 22 minutes long.

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Uh, it took us about an hour and 10 minutes to complete the whole thing, . So

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that's, uh, that was how much fun we had. So, uh, they're a blast.

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Uh, we just have a good time. So I, uh, I do highly recommend y'all come out and, uh, watch.

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So you go to youtube.com/how are you now pod and check 'em out on there.

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Um, as well as our, our other stuff on How are you now?

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But, uh, and in any way, um, man, these things are flying by so quickly.

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I can barely catch my breath anymore. Um, Our, our last episode was a nail biter featuring, uh, Beatrix kiddo

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from the Kill Bill franchise going up against AMA Burton from The Expanse.

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And I had no idea what to expect with on, on this one.

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And I just, uh, I, there's, there's such a love for both of these

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characters out there on all sides. I mean, so I mean, if you, if you love, be a trick you could easily

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love, uh, Amos and vice versa.

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They're both awesome badass characters.

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Um, so yeah, I just had to sit back and wait and, uh, and like much

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of the races in these midterms, it went back and forth a lot.

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Um, now, This wasn't the best.

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Turn out the polls. They, there were only 20, but the entire course of voting was so zigzagged, uh,

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and even the entire way, Can't imagine the results would be drastically different

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had there been 50 or a hundred people voting, but scrappy and tenacious.

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And she may be Beatrice kiddo just could not hold out.

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She left Amos with the dub and the final score of Beatrix, 45%, Amos 55%.

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Thoughts to mind? Bryan: I

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Demond: am not surprised it was that close. Um, Yeah, because I mean, there could have been a recency bias with Amos, but

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it doesn't look like there really was one. So, I mean, it just shows to the longevity of beat K.

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Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? So it was so, it was, it was good.

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I mean, and it was expected to be, uh, it should have been tight because it was

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the final of the elite eight patches.

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Yeah. So, you know, now we're into the final four.

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So Amos will fight, um, Cato, right?

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Yeah. Next time. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, it, yeah, so it's, so of course it's gonna be, uh, nip and tuck and tooth

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and nail and fought, fought to the end.

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And it was close as it should have Dean: been. Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, it'll, And these, yeah, these, these final four here that we're doing

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now, I mean, these are, these are the best of the, best of the best with honors, Sir

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. Acadia: So Dean: it's, uh, this is just gonna be, it's there is.

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Don't, don't look away because you're gonna miss something.

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So , am I right or am I right?

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Demond: Uh, on the nose? And think about, think about who's got, who's been beaten.

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You got Wayne from letter Kenny. Mm-hmm. , uh, on Wick.

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You, I mean just, uh, Jason B like yeah.

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Those are the, those are the people who couldn't get here.

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So we are really into top tier.

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Uh, we're into the A tier fighters now.

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There Dean: are no scrubs in the Final four.

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No. Oh man.

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So we gotta dispute this evening, my friend.

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What do you say? We get into it. Surely

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Demond: this evening we bring to you two tactical tacticians to

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tantalize your taste for brutality. One brings his skills from his homeland to the new insurers to find his family.

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The other is owned his skills and bad.

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The other has owned his skills and body over years of policing special

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operations soldiers in the Army who are these two bashes of our barriers.

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And you ask only two of the fiercest foes ever to furnish up the utility

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Asam from Warrior versus Jack Reacher.

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Everything is disputed.

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Dean: Can you feel it? Can you feel it?

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Bryan: Really? Demond: Yeah. Bryan: Dreamers up here, . Ah.

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Dean: Ooh, man. I don't know what to think about this one.

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I mean, I, you know, I've got, I've got, I've got a little bit of bias there.

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Uh, I do run, well, I did, I, I don't know if we'll see about it.

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I, I have a Jack Reacher podcast. I'll just say it, put it that way.

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Uh, so, so I, I am a bit of a fan, uh, but read a number of the books.

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Um, however, I have seen all the Warrior, uh, and I know they're, they're

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working on filming season three now.

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Uh, it's an amazing show, uh, created, uh, from the mind of Bruce Lee.

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So it's just, wow.

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I just, I, I, uh, I, I'm, it's these two very storied from

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the, from the get go, right? So I don't even, don't even know what to think.

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I mean, I, I, like I said, I do have my favorites, uh, and, um, but.

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You know, I could be swayed. I'll definitely say that I have been swayed before.

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I have thought one way going in. And you know what?

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I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I have a different outlook, so if I could

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be swayed, I will be swayed. So, um, let's, uh, this is why we have advocates.

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That's, that's exactly why we have advocates and we have other

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adjudicators out there to all vote. Um, so let's get into our advocates for this evening,

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Acadia: returning Dean: from his last victory against Jason B.

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Our next guess is no stranger to debating here on disputed hailing from

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NA Charlotte, North Carolina, where he currently hosts strange things in

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Castle Rock Historical Society Podcast. This challenger has, at one time been a grave digger.

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There are no pseudonyms for this advocate. So let me introduce you to our resident linguist Linguistic Luchador, and

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Master in the Mask, Acadia Einstein.

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Acadia: I, uh, I want you to introduce me when I walk

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Dean: into rooms. Acadia: for, like, Zoom calls

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. Dean: You know, I think, you know, I think everybody deserves to be pumped up

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when, when, I mean, you know, get your, get your pumped up and get you going

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and like, you know, it kinda makes you excited for what's about to happen, right?

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Acadia: If you, if I walked into a Zoom call after hearing that, I would say, Can

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you all see my screen with such authority?

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Dean: Oh, man. So Katie, how are you?

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Uh, I, I, I think I, I'm assuming you're, uh, advocating for

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the same person this evening. Any, oh, course, any new, uh, look of what he'd do to me if I

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didn't any, uh, any new, uh, jabs.

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You're, you're gonna be handing out this even something, any, anything up your

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sleeve that we hadn't heard, heard yet. Acadia: If I didn't bring something new, you could just show the

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Dean: old show . That's true. That's very true.

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I mean, I, I, you know, I can, I can definitely say every time

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that you're, you're with us. It's always something new.

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It's something fun. And we enjoy having you every time.

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And you, you've been excellent. Have you lost anything yet?

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So I, you know, and that's, it's, and it's not just the characters,

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the, uh, that, that help the votes.

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It's the, the advocates, I mean, these guys, uh, folks, these guys bring

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it every time they're on the show. So, uh, it's, yeah, it's just, uh,

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Acadia: I appreciate it and I appreciate the fact that you even gave me the

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chance to do it in the first place. Cause I just dug it.

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From the beginning had no idea who Rja was.

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Wow. Not an idea. And I watched the show and I was like, Boy, he is big and mu.

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And Dean: now look at us and Acadia: broad shoulder,

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Bryan: shoulders. Dean: All right my friend.

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Let's, uh, what do we, uh, debon? You ready to do your introduction

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Bryan: here? Yes, Demond: I am.

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All Bryan: right. Demond: Coming in with a 15th seed representing Sin Fella and

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hang hailing from Pittsburgh, pa.

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He likes to compose weird songs in the bathroom.

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He's an author, Kenpo Black Belt and the 2021 DDP Yoga, Positively

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Unstoppable Challenge Champion. He's got hands so fast he could take out, But I mean, give it up for

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Acadia: Ryan. Bryan: Are

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Acadia: you not Bryan: entertained?

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Demond: Are you not muscular? Good. Look, good Lord.

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You should see the video on this man. Can't . Why is got pipes, dude, he's, Wow.

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Acadia: What do you call it when a flex? Is the flex?

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Dean: The Flex Flexes. The flex. Is that a reflex

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Bryan: or reflex As the case arm

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Acadia: over here. Mr.

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Frick Peaks, . I have every muscle.

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You have I,

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Bryan: Yeah. . Acadia: Absolutely.

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Take care. Yes, Take care

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Demond: Has, Yes.

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I That's, yeah, for sure. Sorry, Bryan, tell us you're advocating for this evening and why?

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Bryan: Tonight I am advocating for the man, the myth, the

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legend, The ass kicker of kickers.

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The man that could whoop your ass no matter what time period you're from.

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A song I. The man is probably one of the most complete fighters, right?

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Period. Like there's weight class, it don't matter.

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He just gets the job done because the man has a tenacity that mama wishes she

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The man just gets it done.

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He doesn't just air done, he gets it

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Demond: done. He not say all his vowels,

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. Bryan: Oh, he, he enunciates, He hits the vows, the subjects, the predicates.

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He just, he hits everything that moves.

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Dean: But how, how are his shoulders? ? Oh,

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Acadia: his Bryan: shoulders are pretty badass. I mean, they're, they're not Brian Tan.

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That's . You know what?

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Asosa hits everything so hard. He comes to my house in the fish stop swimming.

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Hmm. . Acadia: Okay. . Damn.

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Dean: Okay. Demond: On that note, you wanna talk

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Bryan: about, Do you wanna about Acadia: the rules? Wanna I

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Dean: do. I want, Sure. Why not? Let's do that . So the rules, my friends, are as follows, Debate timing is, uh,

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each advocate gets five minutes of an opening statement followed directly by

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their opponent's rebuttal for two minutes. Um, after opening statements and rebuttals are completed, uh,

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each host Demond and I will ask a question of each, uh, each advocate.

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Which they will have two minutes to respond. If you happen to be out there watching and want to ask a question, you may

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feel free to do so, and we'll, uh, get it on the screen for them to answer.

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Uh, once all questions are answered, we will go into closing arguments, uh,

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starting with advocate two, getting a two minute closing argument, and

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then advocate one closing out with their two minute closing argument.

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Uh, every, uh, both advocates can bank their time, so if they don't hit

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the full five minutes at the, uh, at the end of their opening statement,

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they could bank that for later use. Uh, and moderators, Demond, and I can extend time up to another 30 seconds.

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So, uh, everybody understand.

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All right, so, uh, Acadia, you are advocate number one this evening.

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Let me bring up the timer. And, uh, think I get you over here and let's see how I do this.

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Yeah, there we go. And then I will, uh, start, let's see.

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I think I will, uh, the timer. There you go.

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Well, thanks for Acadia: having us reacher. And me, you can't see him because he is super tall, but he is up

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there casting a shadow on me and the idiot cats you can't see.

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And on this whole tournament, and everybody who faces them has to

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figure out how to sweep the right words into an argument pile and then

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try to make that pile big enough that reacher can't get through it.

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You can, you always can.

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And even if you couldn't, you could see over it. Even if he couldn't see over it, he would've already snuck around it

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and gotten behind his opponent and leveled him before they could even

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write the last line of their opener.

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Then sit back and smile and nod like Googie Hauser did

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every . And that's the thing.

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How many times can we go over it? How many ways can we say that Jack Reacher is bigger, stronger, and mightier

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than everyone else in this tournament? Cause he just is, I'm sorry.

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Here we're again and this time we're facing the baddest man in

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1870s Chinatown, San Francisco. As, And do not think for one minute that I am sleeping on this man.

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I am not. He is formidable.

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The was murdered, but it came back from the dead.

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That's a power. Hm. . I had a whole thing about how we should all band together and

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throw David SLA in our fucking river, but now I'm not doing it.

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He brought the show back. Terrible.

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Research it like . See.

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Sure. He was on a show that was on Cinemax, which I thought only had scrambly tit

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movies, . But it was a good show and I want awesome to stay in Chinatown.

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I want him to keep fighting other opium tongues and random Irishmen.

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I want him to say Cross the salt and all the other neat shit that he did.

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Cause since I'm loyal to reacher and I want him to win, I watched enough of the

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show, like I said, to get the gist of it. And I recognize how cool he's, And he's tough and he's

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smarmy, which I like even more. Remember that time he said a wise crack and then the guys got mad and then he beat

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' Bryan: em all up. Gold . Acadia: And that's where I want him to stay.

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I like him there. Cause if he's there, the only thing I have to worry about is kinda pretty farfetched.

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If he had 10 years, he would definitely be the boss of all the opiates.

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And he would've been able to branch out from San Francisco and if he branched out,

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he may have gotten as far as Hill Valley

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And if gets to Hill Valley in 1885, he might doc and would've on

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principle kicks instantly just in case he'd been thinking about into

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opium instead of just basic menacing.

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And then with that outta the way, she could have gotten all the train

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stuff done at a leisurely pace and given Mary a chance to realize that

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she got up in time travel before and almost got murdered by Jack the Ripper.

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It stay where she's a goddess after time.

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For I do anything to keep us on from coming to the future where he

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could potentially cross paths with my man, my man, with the clothes

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he bought just that morning at cbs.

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Pickings were slim. So we only had seven bandanas, a pair of compression socks

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and a c a mask for his dick. Not his best, but still, Assam doesn't want any of

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thats to find Jack the Ripper than Jacker.

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I don't fight to. It's gonna be bad.

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And here's why. Let's put in Bruce Lee. We'll take out the act of the plate.

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Awesome. We'll put in Bruce Lee. He's three inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter than awesome.

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So to keep it fair, we'll take out reacher and put in Muhammad

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Ali a little shorter and lighter.

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So good fight. Here's what the actual Bruce Lee said about fighting Ali from the

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book, The making event of the Dragon. Bruce's right hand followed Ali's right hand, Ali's left

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foot, followed Bruce's left foot. Bruce was fighting in Ali's shoes.

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Everybody says I must fight Ali someday.

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Bruce said. I'm studying every move he makes.

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I'm getting to know how he thinks and moves.

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But Bruce knew he could never win a fight against Ali.

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Look at my hand. He said, That's a little Chinese hand.

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He'd kill me. So I'm not speaking for me, I'm not speaking for Reacher.

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I am letting Bruce Lee, who nobody in this tournament would

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step to do my advocating for me.

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It just won't work if it wouldn't work with Bruce Lee.

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Even though Reacher is no Muhammad Ali, it certainly isn't gonna work with us.

22:58

He's good, but he's not that good.

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Dean: Well, that was, uh, that was, uh, a, that was an opening statement,

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Brian, my friend, if you are.

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Let me uh, bring up the two minutes and we'll have you There we going.

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Why am I not going? Let's go. I did figure it out.

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Figure it out. Bryan: Yeah. Sort yourself

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Acadia: out there. I'm trying to stoping the election.

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Bryan: So here's the thing. Bruce did say that, but we ain't talking about Bruce.

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We talking about Asal. Asal is based off of Group is based on, And what do writers, which I am do.

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When we base our characters off of ourselves, we eliminate our

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weaknesses within the character.

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We see the character as we wish to be.

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Asal has gone up against bigger, he's gone up against multiples.

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He's gone up against different styles. Matter of fact, nine times outta 10, he's always the smallest dog in the fight.

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But that's okay because the fight in the dog is always bigger than everyone else.

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Matter of fact, that fight's bigger than a dog.

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That damn fight within USM is a damn dire wolf.

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Okay. That dire wolf is so badass that the freaking Umberto Tiger woke up after

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thinking about swinging on that dire wolf and said, You know what, dog?

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I was outta line. I was way outta line.

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And you know what? I get it. I understand.

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Because if I saw him did go into the 18 hundreds hill, he'd have been not only

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running things, but I'm pretty sure he'd have figured out a way to make

24:53

his opium work within the freaking time machine if they wouldn't have had to

24:57

get with all the high jinx of the damn.

25:00

And Beauford Mag Dog Tann would've got hit so hard that B would've had

25:05

more brain damage than he already had in the first place after getting

25:09

his ass whoop by another sub guy.

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By the namely.

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But the bottom line is if Asal did go up against Ali and his prime,

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it'd be another badass fight. Besides, we all know that Bruce was a humble man as well.

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, Dean: right? I d know why that,

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Acadia: Okay. Your timer just hates it's stop screwing, man.

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This is the best one that we give them all

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Dean: this time. I'm going back. Hang on.

25:47

Get back there. Fucking Acadia: bossing people around.

25:49

Yeah. Bring me some snaps, . In your pool.

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Dean: Um, right. There you go. Five minutes.

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Bryan: So what can I say that I haven't already said about this man?

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Bottom line is number one, ASAM gets the job done, right?

26:09

He's, he can fight smooth. Okay?

26:12

You're not gonna to hit a ASAM unless you, he lets you hit him, right?

26:18

But then there's a lot of the time where he's gonna take your best just to get

26:23

in your head to let you know you've got nothing for him, he's gone up against the

26:30

best his time period has had to offer.

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And I know a lot of people sit there and say, Because last person

26:37

I went head to head against with Asal tried to say, Oh, well the time

26:40

period's different, blah, blah, blah. Look, cats were just built differently even 50 years ago.

26:47

Okay? People that we look at nowadays and go, That's just that guy.

26:53

There were a ton of them back then. So to be that guy back then, you had to have something more

26:59

within you to set yourself apart. People nowadays think that folks got some doll in them.

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Yeah. You got a chihuahua compared to some of our predecessors.

27:09

Okay. Because the bottom line is ASAM and the folks that he's fighting with, they

27:16

have one thing that a lot of folks miss. The fact that they're fighting for survival.

27:21

We're not fighting for survival in the 21st century.

27:24

What are we fighting over? We're sitting here throwing like hissy fits over Twitter about dumb stuff.

27:29

Okay. The people that are fighting for their lives.

27:32

Not saying that Jack retrain fight for his life. Cause he was involved in a lot of stuff that he had to fight for his life.

27:38

Absolutely. Absolutely. Would not take it away from Jack Reacher at all.

27:42

He's a badass. But ASM is that guy that he is gonna survive.

27:49

No matter what. And even though his sister had to, his sister getting some nefarious

27:56

going in, and her man dealt with Asal.

27:59

Yes he did. But he got back up and was bigger and meaner and stronger than ever.

28:05

Okay. And I'm sorry, he walked into an Irish bar into a pub and took out the baddest

28:18

had after fighting a of these marm all day in Chinatown when they wanted to wilden.

28:32

So he spent all day taking out mos, then walked into their house and took out

28:38

the biggest, baddest man in the yard.

28:41

Come on. Really?

28:44

And let's take a look at that. Dylan has it.

28:48

That man had at least four to six inches in height and well over

28:53

a 50 pounds more like maybe I'm exaggerating, more like a hundred if as

28:59

is walking around at about 1 30, 1 50.

29:02

Man D is walking around at 6 5 2 56 2, Sorry, 6 2 2 50.

29:13

Come on. That is a battle. That's on paper.

29:18

Asal loses but he didn't.

29:21

Why not? Just cuz it's in the script because he's just that God, him and Jack

29:27

Reacher and big date, both big guys, big broad, shoulder badass guys.

29:33

Main difference. Yeah. Reacher has training under his belt.

29:37

Absolutely. A lot of training under his belt.

29:41

So does a song. And a lot of reacher training is based off of what Assal has already

29:49

mastered, because martial arts lineage is traced back to the shadowing temples.

29:57

Bottom line is coming across the salt.

30:02

You do what you gotta do to survive. That's what Asal does.

30:06

And I'm left time. Dean: All right.

30:08

Banking Fitty, Bryan: stop.

30:12

I swear your timer Acadia: dislikes

30:14

Dean: me. My timer. Well, obs just updated.

30:18

Um, so , it's now it's decided that it, uh, it, it's now, it, it's flipped.

30:26

my timer around. So when I see it through stream yard, it's, it's, it's in.

30:32

So I have to, Oh, it's, yeah, I dunno what the hell it, So, so

30:37

something with the new S update.

30:40

Fucked it up. We know Acadia: that you're streaming. Would you like us to it?

30:50

Bryan: My, it's supposed to be hitting on this side, but instead

30:55

it's like prominent on this side. That's really annoying.

31:00

. Dean: All right. Uh, let's see. Um, now let's go ahead and bring up Arcadia here and let's see if

31:05

I can start the two minute timer. Acadia: Boom.

31:10

I was trying to figure out where to start. Lot.

31:13

A lot of good points. Lot of points says people that write heroes don't usually write him to lose.

31:20

I mean, and Clintwood spaghetti westerns they do, but he only loses in the

31:23

middle and then he comes back wins. So yeah, saw up everybody in his time.

31:31

I mean, I wouldn't go too hard on the Irish thing cause I am Irish and

31:35

we're not tough, we're drunk and we had to spend all our time making out

31:41

in full booth and shit cuz we couldn't go home because we all lived with our

31:45

mothers and we have the quiet man.

31:50

That was a good fight. But other than that, nah.

31:53

So much. Now Asam, I don't wanna say he's soft, but compared to Reacher, I

32:00

mean he has a house and he has like, he's in the same zip code every day.

32:06

And I wanted to think about what you, what you touched on as, as

32:12

far as the time that they're in. Cause I was trying to think of, so if Assam came to the future and was a

32:18

contemporary of Reacher, he would've had a bunch of things distracted him and

32:23

he wouldn't have been able to focus all his time on learning his martial arts.

32:28

Because he would've had Twitter, Bryan: and

32:34

Acadia: If Reacher went back in time, he would not have had the military

32:40

training that he had, but he'd still be as big as he was because it wasn't,

32:43

it wouldn't, he wouldn't have to invent a gym and like lift cows and stuff.

32:48

Cause he's just like that. And he could've studied the same stuff ASAM did.

32:52

So I'm not taking anything away from Asam.

32:56

If I had my way, if, if this show wasn't so fucking mean, I would just have Asam

33:05

get reacher hooked on Opium and they could be friends and have adventures

33:09

. Bryan: That would be an interesting show. I'd watched shit outta of

33:12

Acadia: that. I watch that , Dean: that's Shanghai Noon

33:20

Bryan: a better version of Acadia: Shanghai Noon Eclipse.

33:24

Bryan: Yeah. Not, not to be confused with that.

33:26

Awful twilight, . Acadia: Wow.

33:30

Dean: Uh, all right. Um, let's, uh, let me kinda, we're gonna do some, have some q and a for a bit here.

33:38

Um, uh, so Demond, would, uh, you have a question that you

33:44

would like to ask a friend to? Katie?

33:48

Demond: Um, what is the

33:58

Every, uh, the, the speed advantage goes to asam.

34:01

The strength advantage goes to reacher. What is that?

34:06

Uh, what's that? What's the, And it's gonna be a game of inches, basically.

34:10

So what is the one thing that Reacher, uh, has that will,

34:16

that will put him over the top? Cause this is gonna be close.

34:20

Great. Acadia: I studied.

34:23

You're supposed to go, It's a great question when somebody asks a question,

34:26

So , let me put it to you this way.

34:30

Yes, some is fast. If they took those cool little hatchets they have and you had and reacher

34:39

next to each other, and each one of them had to have one of those little

34:44

hatchets buried in their shoulder, would your vote on who would win change?

34:53

Because I'm pretty sure that reacher would be better at taking hatchets, which

34:58

means is he gonna take a back punch?

35:01

Yes. By the way, I watched a lot of videos of martial arts.

35:06

Well, YouTube, martial, I dunno, they could've been clowns, but they analyzed

35:11

the fights in the Warrior and they said everything was like technically on.

35:18

To the, to the degree that when they choreographed fights, uh, some fought

35:24

in an Eastern style and they made sure that the Americans fought, like

35:30

Americans, like he's like in martial arts, you never see anybody throw a hook.

35:34

Like it was really, really smart. And he's a really, really good fighter.

35:36

So I'm not taking anything away from, I'm just saying that he could hit reacher.

35:42

Would you wanna get hit 10 times by a sum or have reacher pound

35:50

you on the top of the head like you were a circus tent state?

35:54

Once? Bryan: I

35:57

Acadia: think that's the difference. I think it's, it's just, it's it's force.

36:02

It's physics. It's, there's, there's no way, there's no way to make, I mean,

36:08

maybe if you fought on the moon , I guess that would, that would help.

36:12

Dean: I'm not by the police. Acadia: Fighting on the moon.

36:17

Uh, so I, I guess that's the, the thing that's gonna change, because

36:22

skill wise, I'm not, I I'm not gonna say a single thing about, I'm just

36:27

saying that it's not, You could be the best architect in the world.

36:30

It doesn't, you Empire State.

36:35

I'll let you finish that idea if you have. I mean, it's, he's technical.

36:39

He knows what he's doing. If he had a special move where he could kick a screwdriver up in the air and then

36:44

back kick it right into somebody's eye, then I'd be like, Well, that's dangerous.

36:48

Doesn't, Let's write a guy that does that.

36:57

We'll make an eye All right.

37:03

So, Dean: uh, Brian, you wanna respond to that a little bit?

37:08

Bryan: Yeah. Um, so here's the thing.

37:11

Speaking as a martial artist, And someone who's been in fights, it's

37:18

way worse to get hit with combinations cause those combinations get, each

37:22

punch hurts more than the last one.

37:25

And with someone with that speed reacher goes for that one Killing

37:29

blow martial artists thrive on that.

37:31

We thrive on someone throwing that one hard super blow.

37:36

Cause a, we dodge it, you lose a little bit of stamina and the hardest punch

37:43

usually comes at the very beginning cause you put everything into it.

37:46

Anyone that's been in a fight knows anything about fighting, knows that.

37:49

So going for that one huge knockout shot right away, the big hammer

37:53

blow as ain't gonna be there. And then he's gonna lend those combinations.

37:59

And what makes the combination so deadly is that the, that the first

38:02

strike leads into the second strike, which is leading you into the fifth

38:06

strike, which is gonna be devastating.

38:10

And as far as the hatchet to the shoulder comment, I don't care how

38:14

big and tough you are, hatchet in the shoulder is gonna slow your ass down.

38:18

A couple of pains. I don't care how big you are unless you're a Luke Cage, hatch it to

38:25

the shoulder don't is gonna mean something very, very serious.

38:30

So as great as power is, and we saw a lot of power, I saw him having to deal with

38:38

people that are far stronger than him.

38:42

The best way to counter power is don't be there.

38:47

And he is a master at that.

38:50

He is a master at lowering you in.

38:54

That is what he does. Matter of fact, Asal is actually built to be victorious against a guy like Reacher

39:01

for the same reason that Daniel Bryan is built to be victorious over guys like

39:06

Bist because you think the size is gonna get it done, but technique always wins.

39:14

Always. All right then.

39:18

Dean: So Brian, here's my question. Yes.

39:21

Dylan. Larry. Six two a buck 80.

39:26

I thought he was heavier than 180. No, it's just because he's up.

39:29

When you put him up next to, uh,

39:35

Jack, Jack Bryan: Reach. Not mention, not the mention of the fact that he's got those Popeye

39:38

Dean: light forms. He does. He does. And so does Jack reacher.

39:42

Jack Reacher is six five, two hundred and fifty pounds trained by the military

39:47

to police special forces people.

39:50

Um, and so he has a lot of, He is, he has a, he has a lot of martial arts training.

39:56

He's also been described having the brain of Sherlock Holmes.

40:00

Uh, so he's big and he's very smart and he's got huge amount of deductive

40:06

reasoning about what's going on. Yes.

40:08

So. I, I, I think that, and I've, and you've seen reacher take on

40:15

multiple, very skilled opponents.

40:18

Mm-hmm. how, uh, using his style, which is, uh, for the most part, uh, South America,

40:25

it's, uh, uh, in Brazilian and some of the jujitsu, if you look at the, at, at his,

40:30

at the information, he, he can grapple.

40:33

He, and he doesn't, he doesn't like to use his hands.

40:36

He likes to not break his hands. So that's why he is always using his forehead, his elbow.

40:40

So he gets in close. Uh, how, how does, how, how does ASAM stay?

40:46

Cause essentially he has to stay away from reacher.

40:50

Bryan: Basically, what ASAM is gonna basically do a lot of what

40:54

Muhammad Ali did, and a lot of. He's basically gonna have to go to the school of Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard.

41:00

And, um, even at points in time, Roy Jones, Jr.

41:04

He's gonna have to fight smart. He's gonna have to fight methodical.

41:06

He's gonna have to make reacher miss.

41:09

And here's the thing, I don't care how intelligent you are

41:14

when you're number one, everyone got a plan until they get hit.

41:17

Mike Tyson. And it's true. I don't care how smart you're, I don't care how many fights you've been in, ok?

41:24

When you get hit, things change, all right?

41:28

And when you are trying to, when you are trying to fight your

41:32

fight and your opponent will not allow you, And you have to change.

41:38

It does something. We have seen it multiple times in history, not in just film, but if you

41:45

even look at, say, um, Rashan Evans versus Quentin Ramage Jackson during the, um,

41:52

the tough enough finale, Ramage tried to get Rashad Evans to fight his fight.

41:57

He couldn't get it to happen.

41:59

What happened? He lost composure. He lost focus.

42:02

All right, Keep looking at it. It happens.

42:05

That is why they say that the psychological game is

42:08

so much more important than the, when it comes to combat.

42:12

With that being said, a psalm is a master at lowering you in.

42:19

You start, Yeah, he might reacher, might not wanna throw punches.

42:22

He's gonna try to throw elbows. He's gonna try to throw headbutts, and what's AAL gonna do?

42:27

He's gonna lure 'em in. That's what he does.

42:30

And when tries to go in and start grappling, We've seen people try

42:34

to do that to Psalm, to Aal anyway, and he revels in it because now you

42:40

have come into his space and Asal hits quick and then he gets out.

42:48

So yeah, he's gonna have to stay away from reacher.

42:51

And I think what he's gonna, what's gonna end up happening is that he's gonna suck

42:54

reacher in and he's gonna lay it on him.

43:00

Acadia: I give you more 50 if Dean: I'm adding your

43:03

Acadia: 50 seconds on. All Bryan: right. Not to mention the fact that if reacher, you know, reacher is probably with

43:11

the, with the, uh, with the grappling aspect that he's gonna have, I would

43:16

probably think that reacher isn't, he's not gonna do any shooting.

43:19

No. Cause the fact that it's gonna suck for your knees on concrete,

43:23

doing something like that. So he's gonna have to come in and try to grapple chest on chest arms on his

43:29

chest, which Asal has shown that he is.

43:33

Way more than capable of getting outta.

43:37

And if reacher gets his arms around him, Asal is gonna be throwing those elbows.

43:43

And he's not just gonna be throwing elbows and headbutts

43:46

to the center of the forehead. He's gonna be going for the temples.

43:50

He's gonna be striking the ears. He's gonna be hitting all of Reacher's pressure points.

43:56

Honestly, Reacher is just gonna be walking into death's door with flowers,

44:02

. Acadia: All right. Dean: Okay. You have a Acadia: response to that?

44:06

I mean, I think the way you're picturing reacher grabbing onto asam, it's not

44:14

the way it would actually happened. Cause picture of some as a really fast, really talented garbage

44:24

can on the side of the road and reacher as the big claw from the.

44:30

He's not just gonna grab a little piece of it.

44:33

He's gonna grab his arms, he's gonna grab his chest, he's gonna grab all of them.

44:38

And Assam's not gonna be able to headbutt anything.

44:41

Cause he's gonna be right about here.

44:44

He's only gonna be where Reacher puts it.

44:46

So I understand, like, I guess if I was thinking about it from

44:50

a, a, how would we decide this?

44:55

Because we can go back and forth, you know, putting plot armor on and off

45:00

from a, from a fight standpoint, all we want, if we were just gonna roll

45:05

up the stats and fight, Dex is good.

45:10

Dex is a great, great stats. Speed is good, but a plus five to damage, which Reacher would have in spades.

45:20

It's if we assume that the fight is gonna happen in a place where

45:25

they're both gonna to what they want.

45:30

You could look at it from the two Rocky Fox Club the first time he just got puled.

45:40

Second time he got fast.

45:44

So the way you're describing it, it's all the second fight.

45:49

And I understand that completely. But the fact of the matter is, is that there would be at least a minute of first

45:58

fight in the battle between Assam and Reacher, and that's all reacher needs.

46:03

Cause once he has you, Bryan: your head,

46:15

Dean: so, so, so, so, I, so, so, so I, it sounds to me what Acadia is saying.

46:20

He's picturing the first fight being actually more, uh,

46:26

Creed versus, uh, Ivan Drago.

46:30

Yeah. . Bryan: No. See, but here's I would where he's, he's talking about ass samm getting

46:36

grabbed and number one ass Samm ain't gonna be ing no headbutts at Reacher.

46:40

The thing is, if Reacher's gonna go in and try to get a clinch, he's come

46:44

down Tom, not ass Samm going up to him.

46:50

The thing reacher could do and no martial like, no martial artist or grappler in

46:54

their salt, unless they're gonna try to go for a, which is not smart to do a

47:00

of time, you're not gonna pick him up.

47:04

And the thing is reacher to try to just sit there and overpower him and just come

47:08

from up to grab, that could be thing that he does because it's way more dangerous

47:14

to go down deep than it's to come up.

47:18

And it's like, I, I, I get you. That's the thing I've ever heard, , that's what she said.

47:27

Dean: Um, Very good.

47:30

I I know we've got a couple of people watching right now.

47:32

If you have questions you'd like to put 'em in the comments.

47:34

We'll, we'll get 'em on there. Um, yeah, I, Cause I iPic cause I saw him flies.

47:41

Yeah. I mean he can jump and he and I, so, uh, things that I picture in a fight

47:46

like this is, Jack's not slow, but he doesn't have, he can, he can grab, if

47:53

you're flying at him, he'll grab you. Um, that's, I mean, I do picture that.

47:57

I, I do, I do also picture ASAM landing those tough blows like

48:01

he has on Larry cuz he is granted reacher's not as fast as a psalm.

48:07

He's, he's definitely, I think, I mean you put Larry versus Reacher.

48:11

Larry's dead. Larry is gonna

48:13

Acadia: die five times. Dean: So, uh, I think Asal had a tougher time with Larry than he

48:21

would have, uh, with Le than how, how it would be with Reacher.

48:26

Uh, I mean, so he, so he Asal had a tough time with Larry as it was Reacher is, Has

48:32

Acadia: he fighting? Cause he'd Bryan: been fighting all day too.

48:35

Yeah, I mean, well here, here's the thing is that a song is not

48:40

going to start throwing himself at reacher from the word go.

48:46

He's gonna let Reacher come to him because, I mean,

48:49

Dean, you and I are bigger. You're bigger than I am.

48:52

When you're, when you're getting ready to go into it, you're, you're kinda coming in aggressive.

48:55

When you're a bigger person and you think that you have and strength

48:59

on someone, its natural for you to come in as the aggressor.

49:03

Yeah. So he's go so ass gonna have reacher come to him.

49:08

And what a lot of smaller fighters do when they're going up against someone bigger

49:13

is you let them wear themselves out. Reacher's gonna be trying to go for the grabs.

49:18

He's gonna be throwing his elbows, he's gonna be throwing his knees ASMs.

49:22

More likely than not, he is going to, he's gonna be playing the defensive game

49:27

first, and when he feels, he feels that those stripes are coming a little bit

49:32

slower, that's when he's gonna attack.

49:35

And when Reacher's second wind comes in and that adrenaline starts to surge, he's

49:42

gonna start fighting defensive again. He's basically gonna make reacher gas himself out.

49:49

That's the, that's the way I see it. Exactly.

49:51

Acadia: All right. Dean: Exactly. I, I, and I don't disagree with either side.

49:55

I think both of these fighters are amazing.

49:57

Uh, and it's, it's, it, I I, it's a fight that I would actually love to

50:02

see . I mean, you put 'em in a ring somehow and get 'em to fight that, I

50:06

think it would be a brilliant fight. Um, Bryan: but you put that on pay

50:09

Dean: per view, man. I'm getting, I, you know, I'd like to see that the ultimate Warrior stuff rolled

50:13

up to, you know, to actually do that.

50:17

Um, Damon, do you have any other questions before we get into our,

50:21

I don't, our, uh, our final two.

50:23

Go ahead. I do not. Right. Let me, uh,

50:26

Acadia: I have to say too that I love Bryan: Alan, um, Richon.

50:30

I think that when he was on Smallville, he was always like the best part

50:37

of Smallville when he's on Titan.

50:41

He's among the best part of Titans.

50:43

He's cool. He is amazing at the role.

50:47

Dean: Definitely. So, Brian, if you're ready for your closing argument, I will

50:51

start the two minute timer. Go for it. Bryan: So the, the Ariman version of this long standing

50:59

Acadia: character, Rich, it's not Snake , sorry.

51:05

Bryan: He, he's my favorite. He's my favorite iteration of the character.

51:08

Hands down. He truly is.

51:11

He's big, he's strong, he's very knowledgeable.

51:16

But Asal, as I've already stated multiple times already, he's gonna

51:23

reacher in and it is way more important.

51:26

You ask any martial artist worth their salt.

51:30

It has always said that the technique is better than.

51:35

Technique is better than strength. Matter of fact, my haun, he tells me every time I'm in the dojo, use the

51:42

technique, not your muscle, because the bottom line is reacher is gonna

51:46

try to go after a psalm and he's gonna try to get the make the fight.

51:50

And he's gonna himself, he's gonna himself royally.

51:53

A som is quicker, he's more agile.

51:57

He knows where and how to strike.

52:00

And if reacher were to go back to as Psalms, time, reacher would not have

52:04

martial arts experience because martial arts was still mystical and magic.

52:11

So reacher would not have, he would just be another big guy that could fight,

52:18

and he would be yet another big guy that comes up to a psalm and is beaten.

52:26

Not to mention the fact that as much as Jack Reacher likes throwing that head

52:30

butt, He going throw it in the wrong way.

52:34

And he's gonna have a couple of, um, he's gonna be a couple

52:37

of Cheetos short of a full bag. So in the bottom is as is gonna know what he's gonna do and

52:46

as is gonna have an answer. Dean: Right?

52:54

Let's, uh, bring up Katie over here, your final two minutes and go for it.

53:01

Acadia: Okay. We may have uncovered it on unintentionally a conspiracy where

53:06

martial arts teachers tell everybody the technique more is more important

53:10

than size because they can't make people bigger, but they can keep

53:14

charging them for martial arts lessons. So we ought dig into that.

53:19

Oh, I take that person as far as the as.

53:23

Wow. I take that very person.

53:26

I'm just, I'm just asking questions.

53:29

Bryan: So, Acadia: wow. The one thing about this entire debate, and I understand it, and,

53:35

and again Brian, this has been amazing, but in every instance you

53:41

had to say what Reacher was gonna do.

53:44

And in an actual fight, Reacher's gonna do what?

53:47

Reacher's gonna do. The the implication, which is every time somebody talks about

53:53

reacher, he's big, he must be an or.

53:56

They just take the whole he smart part aside.

53:58

Well, it doesn't matter how he deduced how he got there.

54:01

Look at the Robert Downey Sherlock Holmes.

54:05

Now picture a guy that's 6 5 50 pounds thinking about slow motion punches

54:11

flying all around, hitting your boy.

54:15

The fact is, is that if they're gonna fight, they're gonna other.

54:18

If you're gonna tell me ASMs gonna run around until reacher clever

54:24

lands himself, and then barbs in the middle of the ring and falls over,

54:29

I will tell you a Psalm will wait. But if I tell you Reacher is gonna get a Psalm against the wall and then put

54:39

him through it and then find another wall to put him through, I'm not wrong,

54:46

because 40 punches to his biceps are not gonna stop him from doing that.

54:52

So I guess overall, I'm thinking of it from the standpoint of if they're both

54:58

allowed to do exactly what they wanna.

55:01

The outcome would be like we described, but if it was gonna be a

55:06

fight where they just met each other in an alley, I don't see Rachel.

55:14

All Dean: right, Well, argued my friends.

55:19

I, uh, I, I don't know how this is gonna go, but be so good.

55:23

What I can tell you is the dispute has ended and now it is time to settle things.

55:28

Folks, you're gonna go out to disputed pod.com/asam v reacher, and you're

55:33

gonna vote for your victor there because, uh, it's gonna be on you guys.

55:38

So, uh, make your voice heard.

55:41

Choose your winner. Come on, little recap.

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Demond: Oh man, This, again, this is gonna be another, like, we,

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like I said, at the top of the hour, this is gonna be a close one.

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We've got speed versus we've got technique versus strength.

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We've got 18, uh, fifties versus contemporary.

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We've got HPO versus Amazon.

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It's Acadia: Bezos got the money, Baby

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. Demond: It's, it's gonna be wild. I am, I'm, uh, this is, I mean, these keep getting better and better with,

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and with this, you know, with this tournament format, of course the,

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uh, the debates become better and, uh, different points being made.

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And this is another, uh, stellar performance, not only, uh, of,

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of these, of the characters, but, uh, from the advocates as well.

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Definitely. Thank you. Dean: Definitely. Definitely.

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Um, so, uh, Guys, if, uh, if you would like, uh, and I'll start with Acadia here.

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Uh, if you'd like to talk about any of, uh, your plugs that you would

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like to provide, uh, anything that you got going on, yes, you can

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Acadia: find me at Acadia on Twitter. And right now I am deep in the throws of writing the script for the comedic

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version of the Donner Party, and I am hoping that all of you will be

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able to help me by assuming roles.

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The dumb, dumb, dumb Donner, Dean: The Donner Party of five.

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Looking forward to that. Uh, and our, our other, uh, author Brian.

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Bryan: Yeah, I am currently, I have re-released two of my

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books already, my sci-fi series. Um, the John Baker Chronicles the spinoff to Kendra SALs Permutation Archive.

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You can get that now in print, an e-book format, Be on the lookout

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because I will also be re-releasing my urban fantasy vampires and

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wears and all of that crazy stuff.

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I will be releasing my first two entries into my Dark Land series,

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The enforcer and the Hunted. Um, the enforcer has come back to glowing reviews from the A reader

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that's gonna be going out very soon.

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Coming out very soon. And the hunted will be right behind cause the hunted is just

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gone to the Arc reader as well.

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Um, You can also check me out at the Plot Aholic podcast.

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Go to plot aholic podcast.com or no, the plot aholic.com.

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Sorry. Always do that. Uh, we are currently, we have just started our November block of shows where we are

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gonna be talking about movies that are dramas where the lead is known for comedy.

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We just did Rain Over Me with Adam Sandler and, um, um, Don Cheatle amazing film.

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Amazing film this coming week, actually.

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Well, next week we will be reviewing Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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with, um, Jim, Kerry and Kate wins. So I'll make sure you're checking that out as well.

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You can get the Pto Hos podcast wherever you get your podcasts, or check this out

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on our YouTube channel, PTOs podcast.

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Dean: All right, Demond, what you got going on, man?

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Demond: Uh, let's see, um, uh, Damon does is a bit in, Hi, is a, is in hiatus for

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a minute cause I'm trying to regroup. However, I do have 77 episodes.

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I believe 70 of those, probably like, it's 72.

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72 of those are interviews. So, um, those are pretty cool.

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Um, I'm doing in the, I am the producer and co-host of in the

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Stack, the Library podcast, which has been going, uh, pretty well.

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And I have something else up my sleeve, but I want, uh, to have more

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of them recorded before I say anything. So I'll probably say something next week, Right on or next.

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Dean: Very cool. Yeah. Uh, you've got your hand up there.

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Uh, Acadia? Acadia: Yes. After, after, um, hearing all Brian's plugs, um, I, I

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wanted to have more stuff , so.

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Um, I needed more plugs.

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, I don't sound interesting. This is a ha coup man.

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You are Bryan: the luchador to end all luchador, man.

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You don't need anymore Acadia: plugs. Dean: You're a luchador.

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Oh, man. Um, so, uh, and let me, uh, some of my plugs that, you know, we've got, uh, we've

1:00:12

got this here, uh, for which, uh, I would like to say that, you know, we've got, uh,

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if you want to check out any of our things here, dispute pod do com slash links.

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We've got merch, uh, which is dispute pod com slash merch.

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Uh, and then we are part of the pod secure network, which is pods secure.com.

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Um, so, uh, and right now I am, uh, working on getting

1:00:36

my voice acting stuff set up. Uh, I don't have anything set up at the moment, uh, uh, to go to, but,

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um, You've heard me over a couple years, so you know, it, my voice.

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So , if you're looking for somebody to do voice acting stuff for you, whether

1:00:50

it's promo, whatever, hit me up. Uh, I, I got gear and I can make that happen.

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Um, so, um, Demond, what do you say?

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We talk about what's going on next time

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Demond: You got it? Well, sometime in a coup, sometime, uh, after, uh, Thanksgiving.

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Uh, we, I don't think we've set a day for that

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Dean: yet. Not yet. I don't think we need to, we need to get that.

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I think it's gonna be either the Friday or the Saturday.

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We just need to figure out who can do that. Okay.

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Demond: So, but a couple weeks, uh, couple days after

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Thanksgiving, 7:00 PM PMs there.

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7:00 PM Pacific. 10:00 PM Eastern.

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Hopefully, possibly. Time to be determined.

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Uh, we're gonna have our second battle of the final four as we come back, as we

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welcome back CE Amazing and Amy Axilrod as they advocate for Cato from the Green

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Hornet versus Amos from The Expanse.

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So, until next time, I'm Deon, I'm

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Dean: Dean. Acadia: And remember, everything

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Dean: is, Thank you so much for joining us today.

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We hope you enjoyed the episode. We are now asking you to go vote for your champion.

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We want to thank our advocates for their amazing defense of their champions.

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And finally, we'd like to thank the musical artists who created the music

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that helps make our show so great. We've got Hard Fight by Dges, Game Changer by I Colics Bite Club by Evil Bear.

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And this party sucks by done with fish.

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