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Hey, what's up everyone, Henry here from
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disruptive money management. And today I'm going to
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be talking about the simple IRA for small
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business owners. More often than
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not. I run into small business owners inquiring
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about the difference between a simple IRA
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versus, okay . It
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used to be that small business owners
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would utilize a simple IRA because
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the cost of starting a 401k plan was
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costly to implement and maintain. If
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we were having this conversation, you know, five,
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10 years ago, that would be the case, but
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a lot has changed in the industry and establishing
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a 401k is more cost effective now
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than ever before. If
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we go into the years, pass the
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solution for those that did not want to start
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a 401k was to provide simple IRA
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benefits because for
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one, it didn't really have much of an implementation
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costs or annual maintenance
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costs for the employer. Today,
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we're going to be breaking down the benefits and the pitfalls
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of the simple IRA so that you can make
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a educated decision on whether
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or not it is right for your business. The
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simple IRA was designed for companies with
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less than 100 employees to quickly inefficiently
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provide retirement. It took a significant
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components of a 401k and stripped it
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down to the bare minimum. It applied
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the IRS regulations in a fixed fashion
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so that there were very little adjustments
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that could be made with very few
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adjustments and customization. The
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simple IRA became the low cost
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solution for businesses to
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provide retirement benefits for the employees.
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Additionally, it works very similarly to
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a 401k. It allows you
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and your employees to defer pre-tax
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dollars to a qualify retirement plan
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that grows tax deferred upon
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obtaining retirement age of 59 and a half.
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You can withdraw the funds as ordinary income
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tax , simple
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IRA . These are predominantly established directly
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at a mutual fund or investment company, regardless
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of who you have a setup through, where there it
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is. An independent financial advisor
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, a wirehouse bank or a credit
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union. The actual underlying plan
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itself is typically held directly at
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a mutual fund company. These are your
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American century's American funds
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fidelities or T Rowe price. When
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you structure a simple IRA, the
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mutual fund company will create a master portal
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type account under the business name. Every
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subsequent employee that he likes to participate
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will end up having their simple IRA retirement
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account held at that mutual fund company
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linked via the employer master
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plan from a set
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of process , there is not much Denise to take in
2:30
, be taken into for consideration. Do
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simple. IRA allows all employees
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who work for you and who earn at least 5,000
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a year in the last two years to
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contribute to the plan. Unlike
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a 401k simple IRA has
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no setup fees nor any ongoing
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administrative fees burdened onto
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the sponsoring employer and
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employee can establish the plan at any time between January
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and October, once established
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the plan runs each year until the employer decides
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to shut it down. It is essential
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to note at once a plan has been established.
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That plan must run throughout the year.
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What I mean is this. If you have a simple IRA
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that has been running for a few years, and you're ready
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to transition to a 401k plan for
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the added [inaudible] , which I'll go into a separate episode, you must run that simple plan through the remainder of the calendar year effectively. You will not want to start your 401k plan until January of the following December that you decide to shut down to simple IRA. So for ease of understanding, you cannot end enclose close a simple IRA. Mid-year
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the plan itself must run through December
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31st with notification to the company.
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That that year is a final year that you're keeping
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it. If you decide to start a
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401k in the middle of a year, you're going
3:47
to want to postpone the implementation.
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The 401k until January
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1st, you just can't contribute to the 401k
3:55
until the simple has been shut down once
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a plant and its benefits have an establish
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. You must provide benefits throughout the entire
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year. I often get asked
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by small business owners during times
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of financial difficulty. If they can
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amend the employer contribution and
4:10
Tokyo, they can get back on their feet. And the answer
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to that is no. Once you have
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agreed to provide benefits to your employees,
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you must maintain that benefit structure
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through the rest of the year. Going
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back to contributions, employees
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have the ability to contribute pre-tax
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dollars. Meaning any funds that they
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contribute to the plan will not be subjected
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to taxes. The earnings will be tax-deferred
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and upon withdrawal at retirement
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age, which is set at 59 and a half,
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they can take the funds out and pay ordinary income
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taxes
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For the calendar
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Year 2020, the simple IRA
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allows any employee to contribute
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13,500 annually and
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an additional 3000. And catch-up if
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they are over the age of 50, historically
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the simple IRA maximum limits have been increasing
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by approximately 500 a year. So
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we can reasonably expect 20, 20 ones
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, maximum contribution amount to be approximately
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14,000 and 17,000
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Woolf . The catch-up employer
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contributions when it comes to the employee
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, contributions to simple IRA has very
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minimal leeway of modification. When
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it comes to the employer contribution
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as the employer, you have really two options
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regarding how much you can contribute to
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the simple IRA plan. You can
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either match your employee's contribution dollar
5:28
for dollar up to 3%. And
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if you use this route, there is no compensation
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limit on the 3% rule, which I explained
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just a minute. If you don't want to go
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with the matching rule, then
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your other alternative is to provide a flat
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2% contribution to
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each and every eligible employee,
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regardless of what their actual contribution
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to the plan is. There's 2%
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does have a compensation limit of 285,000.
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That if you have an employee with 300
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K in comp, your 2%
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is only calculated on 285,000.
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Since status limit, the
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compensation amount is subject to change. So
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check with the IRS limits every
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year, if you have this. So going back
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to the match rule, there is no compensation
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limit on the 3% you'll match
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3% up to employees comp at
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a hundred thousand 200,300,000,
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breaking these down. The very first one is easy
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to enough to understand if your employee
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contributes 1% of their annual comp, you
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will match 1%. If they're contributing to
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your going to match two, to contribute three,
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you're going to match three. Your buck stops
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there at the three , uh , because that's
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really the four of you have an employee contributing 10%.
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You're just on the hook for three. The
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second option is providing a flat 2%
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contribution to every eligible
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employee, regardless of how much
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they're contributing. If they're not contributing,
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but are eligible, they're going to receive the two.
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If they're contributing three, they're still going
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to get the two
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When selecting,
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Which one is most appropriate for the company, most
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employers tend to choose a first option in
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today's day and environment. Retirement, retirement
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planning is, is not a one-sided affair.
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Providing benefits is fantastic before
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any of us to get to retirement on time. And
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in the way we want, we should encourage
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our employees to be saving. The
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first option is a great tool to
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promote savings for those that care about
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retirement and are willing to have
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some skin in the game. The
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employer contribution amounts are pretty
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rigid in that we cannot deviate much
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from those two options. Remember
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that whatever you promised your
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employees must be the same throughout
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the entire year. The IRS does allow
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some flexibility for changes to
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the employer contribution, but not by
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much the flexibility to
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employ contribution rules. This , if
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you have previously selected the 2%
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straight contribution, you can substitute
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it for the 3% matching rule
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for one plan year, but you , of
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course, you must notify your employees of
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the change. If you have previously
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elective for the 3% matching contribution,
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you may decrease it for one calendar
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year with a minimum of 1%.
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Additionally, you can only make this
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change two times in a five-year
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period. Again, any
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changes must be sent to
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your employees.
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The simple
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IRA does not have any flexibility
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in restricting the employer's contribution
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upon employee termination. The
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best way to explain to us is to provide
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you have an example of a 401k clause on
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a 401k. You can structure an employee match
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obligation that requires an
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employee to work for you for X number
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of days and hours before becoming
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eligible for entry into the plan. Additionally,
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in a 401k, you can also require
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that they remain employed throughout the entire
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year to receive the employer contribution.
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That type of limitation is not available in
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a simple IRA, does a big missing inception
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when provided the benefits must be
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given to an employee. What are they leave
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or pass away before the end of
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the year, when it comes
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to calculating the employer contribution
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and more specific , a 3% match, you
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must consider the employee's entire
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year salary for purposes of calculating
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a 3% rule. This is regardless
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of when to enter into the plan. For
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example, say you have an annual salary
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of 50,000 and I start contributing
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to my employer's simple
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IRA plan on September 1st, let's
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say I contribute $1,536
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from September 1st through December
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31st, my employer would have to match 3%
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of my entire year's compensation
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of $50,000, which
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in this example is a $1,500
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match. It doesn't matter that I
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only contributed to the plan
9:57
during the last four months at a year. A
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common misconception is that the
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business owner would calculate
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the salary from September
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1st to December 31st and based
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a 3% match on that compensation
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thinking, Hey, that's when I entered into
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the plan, right? So that's when they should be calculating.
10:16
No, the 3% is based on entire
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year's compensation. When
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you have a simple IRA, any employee
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contributions, withheld from their paychecks
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have a maximum timeframe upon deposit.
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The IRS rule is that withholdings must
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be deposited within 30 days
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after the month in which the deferrals were made.
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However, the department of labor has a more
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strict rule. You must have the funds
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deposited within seven days
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of the pay date in which the funds were deducted.
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I always suggest erring on the side of caution
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and making the deposits as soon as possible.
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The fact is when funds are deducted
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from your employee's paycheck, you have
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a fiduciary responsibility to
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have a transfer to their accounts as quickly
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as possible. And extended
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holding on employee funds is a big
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red flag. When it comes to retirement plans,
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you don't want to mess with the IRS and
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the department of labor when it comes to these
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things, there is no easy way to explain
11:12
why you had constructive receipts and
11:14
did not promptly transfer it. When
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it comes to the employer, contributions, you have
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some more leeway. The employer contributions
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must be made before you file your
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business taxes, including any
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requested extensions. What
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that means is that if you have a 3%
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match or a straight 2% contribution,
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you don't necessarily have to put that portion
11:36
into the account until the following
11:38
year is up. When you file
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your taxes directly speaking,
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you can make the entirety of the year's
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employer contribution up to the deadline.
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Typically October 15th of the following
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year, if you filed an extension, your
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contributions as the employer are
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of course completely tax-deductible as
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an expense from
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a simple IRA cost standpoint.
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I started this episode by saying that there are very
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minimal set up costs for an employer. In
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a later episode, I'll compare a simple IRA to
12:08
the 401k and a side-by-side analysis.
12:10
So you can see it in greater detail.
12:13
Still
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The low to absolute no startup cost
12:16
is probably why to simple IRA appeals to most
12:18
small businesses. But look, you
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know, and I know that there are no free lunches
12:22
in this world. The simple IRA is not
12:24
free because most of the cost is
12:26
embedded in the simple IRA investments.
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The plan itself is almost always tied to a mutual
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fund company. A though you may not
12:34
have a set up costs or reoccurring
12:36
annual annual admin costs. The
12:39
mutual fund company still has to make their money somehow.
12:42
And they do this by embedding the cost into
12:44
the contributions that are going into the plan.
12:46
For the most part, the mutual fund company will assess
12:49
an upfront commission charge on every
12:51
dollar contributing to the plan is,
12:53
is not in common for this upfront sales load
12:56
to be in the range of five and 6%.
12:58
On top of that, they can have pretty
13:00
expensive expense ratios. Well
13:02
above 1% that gets assessed
13:05
annually on the money that is within
13:07
the plan because the simple
13:09
IRA is tied to one mutual fund company.
13:11
You can only select investments within that one
13:13
company. For example, if your plan
13:16
is at fidelity, you can only have
13:18
access to a preset menu of just fidelity
13:20
investments. The same goes, if
13:22
you have your plan at American century, all
13:24
investment options are only through investments, American
13:27
century building a well-rounded investment
13:29
account often involves using different
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fund companies for different investments
13:34
in today's modern environment.
13:37
For example, in a 401k, I
13:39
may have a fun lineup with 15 different investment
13:41
options, but those 15 different options
13:43
would come from very different companies. I
13:46
may have an extremely low cost S and P 500
13:48
fund from BlackRock, a
13:51
large cap growth oriented fund from
13:53
fidelity, maybe a small
13:55
and mid cap growth fund from Alliance
13:57
Bernstein and international exposure
14:00
from Vanguard. I may
14:02
have bonds from PIMCO in a stable value
14:04
from another company, as well as a full
14:07
suite of target date funds from Tia
14:09
or T Rowe price. The
14:11
idea behind his level of diversification
14:14
is that I want to utilize the best in
14:17
class for the sector that we wish to have
14:19
exposure to and
14:21
provide low cost options for
14:23
defeat conscious investor.
14:25
There is no way in how you can say that
14:28
one fund company out there does
14:30
the best at everything. I'm sorry,
14:32
but fidelity American funds, T Rowe,
14:34
price Vanguard, and all of you investment companies
14:36
out there, you all have strengths and weaknesses.
14:39
It's a simple truth to say that
14:41
you have a full suite of the best investment options
14:44
in every sector is simply BS.
14:47
It's like saying McDonald's makes
14:49
the best fast food burger for every type
14:51
of meat out there. It's not true
14:53
because we all know Chick-fil-A
14:55
makes the best chicken sandwiches. This
14:59
level of investment selection, diversification
15:02
is not possible in a simple IRA. You
15:04
can pick from their limited menu of
15:06
investment options and kind of go from
15:08
there from a bigger
15:11
perspective of using simple IRAs.
15:13
I want to address integrations and financial
15:15
wellness. I get it that running
15:18
a business is not easy. There are a lot
15:20
of things to address. You've got employee
15:22
morale, business, marketing, and advertising
15:25
to consider. You've got to consider your business
15:27
growth profits expenses,
15:30
and we have even touched upon customer satisfaction.
15:33
The last thing you want is to have to spend hours
15:35
each week running the retirement plan and
15:37
making sure contributions are made correctly.
15:41
The modern 401k plan has gotten better
15:43
at technology to integrate with most
15:45
payroll providers to have what is called
15:47
a three 60 solution adjustments
15:50
and modifications from an employee's contribution
15:52
amounts are automatically reflected
15:54
in the payroll company, allowing seamless
15:56
calculation of the payroll deductions
15:59
and subsequent deposits. Very
16:02
few simple IRAs have
16:04
this type of integrative solutions, which
16:07
means either you or someone in human
16:09
resources must spend time every pay period
16:11
to perform the calculations. You'll
16:14
need to enter it into the system correctly
16:16
and make sure the funds are deposited promptly.
16:19
If your employees are making changes to the contributions,
16:22
they're going to be constantly running back to the person in
16:25
HR , laying them know if your business
16:27
is low in employee count that may not be an issue,
16:30
but as your company grows, an employee count
16:32
more time will be needed to run the administrative
16:34
aspect and a more manual data
16:37
entries that there are more errors
16:39
are prone to be made 360
16:42
integrated retirement plans just
16:45
about almost eliminate these processes,
16:47
allowing the systems to speak
16:49
to one another directly, thus effectively
16:52
saving you time, money
16:55
and fiduciary liability. Additionally,
16:58
simple IRAs have very low to no
17:00
focus on financial wellness employee
17:03
information on their online websites
17:05
will generally provide them with information
17:07
relative to how much they have contributed,
17:10
what the employer contribution was and
17:12
their account's internal rate of return
17:16
with the retirement crises that we are undergoing.
17:18
I can tell you that employees need more than
17:20
just a return rate. Let me ask
17:22
you this. If I told you that your
17:25
account balance was $250,000
17:28
and your return rate this year was
17:31
7%. What does that tell you?
17:34
Well, all it tells you is that your account
17:36
balance is $250,000 and
17:38
your investments returned 7% this year.
17:41
What it doesn't tell your employees is what are
17:43
not they're on track for retirement. It
17:45
doesn't provide projected retirement
17:47
income, which is what we want to know.
17:50
Yes, knowing my account balance as well
17:52
and fine. But what employees want to know
17:55
is how much their income can
17:57
be replaced when they retire.
18:00
The also want to know what they must do.
18:03
If that retirement income number is
18:05
not to their liking, they want to
18:07
see if they will have enough money to
18:10
sustain their entire retirement
18:12
timeframe. And unfortunately,
18:14
knowing only the balance and a rate
18:16
of return is insufficient.
18:20
Additionally, simple IRAs don't provide
18:22
much in terms of tools for
18:24
other items of financial wellness, they
18:27
don't offer the debt payoff calculators
18:29
or the other articles of importance necessary
18:32
for retirement planning. All
18:36
right, well, I know that was quite
18:38
a bit to take in, but that was the simple
18:40
IRA. In a nutshell,
18:42
the simple IRA has historically been
18:44
recommended as a simple and low cost
18:47
solutions for business owners wanting
18:49
to provide retirement benefits still,
18:53
as I illustrated, the actual underlying
18:55
costs can be quite substantial.
18:58
Additionally, the lack of financial
19:00
wellness integration tools
19:03
and investment selection makes
19:05
it a dinosaur for corporate
19:07
retirement plans. The simple
19:10
IRA may sound appealing because
19:12
of the lack of startup costs. And if
19:14
you don't care that your employees are bearing the majority
19:16
of the costs, if you don't plan on contributing
19:19
whatsoever, maybe just, maybe
19:21
it's a viable option. Still.
19:23
If you are a business owner who cares
19:26
about the big picture of low costs,
19:28
financial guidance and diversification,
19:31
I strongly recommend considering a 401k
19:34
plan instead. And that's it
19:36
for today. My friends, I hope you enjoyed this episode
19:38
on the simple IRA. In my upcoming
19:40
episode, I will do a similar deep dive
19:42
into the 401k and why the 401k
19:45
is not as expensive as one might think
19:47
in today's modern time until
19:49
next time, I wish you all a safe,
19:52
healthy, and productive week. The
19:58
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20:08
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