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he would fight Jake or Logan Paul,

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if he'd take a fight just for

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the money who he's got beef with

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right now and he also opened up

1:00

about a lot of fat shaming he

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gets and men's mental health, depression and

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suicide. There's some shocking moments, there are

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some weird moments and there is one

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towards the end of the most moving

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moments I think you've ever seen from

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Paddy Pimlott. Paddy,

1:17

Jake Paul or Logan Paul, who would you prefer to

1:19

fight? I

1:21

don't really. You're not bothered? No, I'm asked,

1:23

not one. Would you fight them both? Yeah,

1:26

of course. Would you fight one then the

1:28

other? Yeah. You would? Yeah. Yeah.

1:30

But you don't worry about it like

1:32

not being that credible, you're a proper

1:34

fighter but not... If the money's

1:36

right, that's it. I'll beat

1:38

the pair the whole point after another. And how

1:41

much is the money? How much would it

1:43

take? I always have to speak to my

1:45

manager to do all that. That's not my

1:47

fault, you never get involved in that. No,

1:49

that's not. You just do what you're told.

1:51

Yeah, that's not my job. Which

1:54

one do you think is best out of them two? I

1:56

fight them. Yeah, obviously Jake.

1:59

Right. Yeah, Jake's definitely a better fighter.

2:01

I said, rest

2:03

let it ease more, WWE. And

2:06

would you fight Jake just boxing, not

2:08

MMA? Yeah, I was right of course.

2:10

Of course I'd say that. Yeah.

2:14

I'd fight all these old MMA fighters who go on and

2:16

I'm doing it because the money is right.

2:18

Yeah. And what do you

2:20

think about how that influencer boxing has

2:22

changed the sport? Do you think it's

2:24

changed the sport? Yeah, it's a bit

2:27

stupid like it, isn't it? But it's just one of them.

2:30

It's after people are playing the season, it's after people are

2:32

playing the season. There's

2:34

professional boxers who are like unbeaten.

2:37

They're the English and British champions in the

2:39

UK and they don't get no recognition and

2:41

they actually find out how to get fights

2:43

and stuff like that. But these

2:45

influencers are getting fights and getting paid

2:47

big money on big shows, big stages

2:49

to the mad.

2:52

Do you think that's wrong? Yeah.

2:55

In the actual boxers

2:58

who've gone full amateur

3:00

career and now go pro and

3:02

have put the whole life into it, they should be

3:04

getting more of the spotlight and the landlights than these

3:06

influencer boxers. But as I say, if a lot of

3:08

people tune into what's other than if people are tuning

3:11

into watching that. And I'm almost on a couple of

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I was like, what is going

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3:21

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3:24

boxing. Are they all in at the same

3:26

time? Or one year now? No, one year

3:28

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legends. Have

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you seen those MMA ones where there's like six

4:50

against six and they all just go in? I

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play Ken Brush, it was a sock right there. Yeah. Did you

4:55

do that? No, no, because you can just

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get the stolen, you have to get it from the back

5:00

of the head. Yeah. Do

5:02

you think though, that being said about legitimate

5:05

boxing versus influencer boxing, do you think

5:07

entertainment is important in your sport? Yeah,

5:09

of course entertainment is important in any

5:11

sport. Of course,

5:14

without saying, I mean, it's boring,

5:16

you're not really going to want to watch it are

5:18

you? Yeah. And do you

5:21

think about that when you fight, like you want to entertain the

5:23

crowd or you more thinking about I need to win this fight

5:25

and not act like a dick? Because

5:27

it must be a fine line. You could

5:29

say that, yeah, it is a fine line, but obviously,

5:32

winning the fight comes first. You

5:36

want to entertain everyone, yeah, goes out to train. But

5:38

winning the fight comes first, gives me life as an

5:40

example, to be honest. The first round,

5:42

I stuck with them, I wanted to knock them out.

5:45

I caught them with some big punches for us when I

5:47

finished them. I was like, I'm going to have to do

5:49

something. I took advantage of it

5:52

and got on top of it. And

5:54

we Realized how easy it was

5:56

to just sit on top of them and land

5:58

ground on top of it. They want to

6:00

come out of on the same the second right

6:02

even though old face wrong with more entertaining. I.

6:05

Knew it was an easy route of if greece to take

6:07

on gone down. On. Just dominate and

6:09

on for yeah and so if you

6:12

could be. World. Champion Hall

6:14

of Fame Best Fire Ever. Would you

6:16

just roll around with paypal and hug

6:18

him for five rounds? For.

6:21

Which could would you have to do

6:23

some kind of entertaining both peoples? those

6:25

has. He has been one of the

6:27

the best of all time and most

6:29

of his when the decisions taken cable

6:31

bomb dominate among so. Now.

6:34

You could say that I'm can be resolved people sake of

6:36

eve. Ah the best of all time and. He

6:39

didn't really get on when he finishes. He.

6:43

says. Bad debate. a professional job Feldman more

6:45

about when all if I play fair. Yeah,

6:47

but I mean even Fi as you don't

6:49

we will fight. They still get five if

6:52

they're entertaining than we have to do idea.

6:54

Of course there's a lot of favors admit

6:56

to a hold for that's a good thing

6:58

old. I'm a composer box and doesn't matter

7:01

if you get a loss like only comes

7:03

about some people. I heart is being beat

7:05

though so just found off once or twice

7:07

a dilemma isn't lose ten pounds on building

7:09

in the world champion. Other. Can.

7:13

Say how's life changed Lightyear Superstar Now

7:15

about I thank you for doing this

7:17

and as and have like must be

7:19

very different now them. Yeah

7:21

it's will say that. been been like

7:24

this a few years now those up

7:26

on mister to else. I

7:28

mean you say pray ground? it didn't

7:30

seem like so comfy ahead on sale

7:33

If I'm if I'm the sit here

7:35

bro be like.on mean I'm in debt

7:37

remind. You

7:40

get reminders within five minutes. other the

7:42

father. Of like any ambitions

7:44

and ransom? Yeah yeah I mean

7:46

the get the buffer thought if

7:48

I followed houses are now for

7:51

the itself. Yeah, Is there anything

7:53

about be as successful as you

7:55

are. This. bad that comes

7:57

with it and any downsides of it

7:59

am Obviously there's always little

8:01

dance has the things like like

8:05

I Love

8:07

it when people come over NASA pictures and stuff when

8:09

the polite I mean come over and I've

8:11

managed and ask me if you want a picture and say

8:14

please I'll say yeah get a picture I

8:16

eat it when people just walk past me and like start with

8:18

the army Yeah,

8:21

someone's just walking past it and they start taking a picture

8:23

of me or be on me if they start

8:25

doing that to people now Have

8:28

you ever been tempted to like punch someone?

8:30

No, no never never been tempted to punch

8:32

anyone like to be honest I am I

8:35

Know I could never do that. No, I mean that's

8:37

just something that you can't do but

8:39

people they can be a bit disrespectful Can't yeah.

8:42

Yeah, do you know the most annoying ones when

8:44

someone just like puts their arm around you and

8:46

pulls your neck Like they

8:48

do that to you. Yeah They just go

8:50

like come on. Come here lad. I'm pull

8:52

you in for like a selfie and say

8:54

oh, I had me neck Get off. Yeah,

8:57

I've had to tell a few people to get off when

8:59

you've done that before. Yeah I just

9:01

say I really don't mind ask me for the

9:03

picture all you want snow Don't you know, it's

9:06

just completely on me when I'm not looking. Yeah

9:08

pictures of me. I'm not looking It's weird even

9:10

more so now that me birds tag them someone

9:12

that have kids in a human So don't want

9:14

no one to tell you something it is of

9:16

me on I'm out with my kids Yeah, and

9:19

have you thought about how that might change you being a dad? What

9:27

about if they want to be a UFC fighter MMA

9:30

when you know there because which of the first 15

9:32

were you when you did your first fight 16

9:35

your first five percent saying a 15. Yeah. Yeah,

9:38

I mean Belizea swing girls

9:40

So no, we still could we

9:42

still could what if they both came up for more?

9:45

I'll get them into jujitsu definitely so they can

9:47

defend themselves, but I Thought

9:50

that I'm fighting. Yeah. Yeah, don't let them miss

9:52

us all one time. See you last time in

9:54

times But what if

9:56

I really wanted it? I'd let them obviously. Yeah, I want

9:58

them to be able to defend themselves I'll

10:00

have them doing you jet to anyway. Yeah, that goes

10:02

without saying I'm in the gym doing you get to

10:06

So, um, I notice online, you

10:08

know when you sort of in between fights So

10:10

you don't mind putting on a pound people fucking

10:12

get on your back really badly

10:24

How does that make you feel So

10:26

I get I'm gonna just one of them like

10:28

I enjoyed my food I Do

10:31

I enjoy it a bit more than? Most

10:33

I can I enjoy my food more than 99.8% of

10:35

those people Absolutely

10:38

enjoy me food, but I don't let anything

10:40

go to waste So I

10:43

could be going for a meal for all of

10:45

us and like I nailed my hand and the

10:47

three you finished didn't finish yours I'd finish yours

10:50

Nothing goes the way no, I can't

10:52

help myself Oh That's

10:55

just the way I am. Yeah, I get me

10:57

away from me weight goes off after a fight

10:59

because I am good I indulge I can't help

11:02

it. Hmm. Like I say before I won't go

11:04

above this way I won't do that and

11:06

then I just can't stop eating when I start

11:09

Yeah, and do those comments like

11:12

get to you and hurt you? Can't

11:15

let anything get to you anymore. No point

11:17

now where People

11:19

say it on every day so you just

11:22

Just get on with and how have you managed to harden

11:24

yourself to that because a lot of people They

11:27

probably could be be more and do

11:29

more with their life But they're just worried

11:32

about all the haters and there's everyone's a hater

11:34

online now. Yeah. Yeah, everyone's at all. I've gone

11:36

to eat it. Oh Yeah,

11:39

how'd you harden yourself? I've been to go. No, please

11:41

feel that Only being by

11:43

going through an all by you feel and we

11:45

had ourselves up that way I

11:48

mean we give each other hell. Yeah stuff

11:50

happened and stuff got said what couldn't if

11:52

there was Girls there so

11:54

loud. We just told them each other up that

11:57

way in our school some

11:59

of the stuff we said to each other and did to each other. I

12:03

was conditioned for it. So

12:05

when I got into MMA, and I started saying, obviously,

12:09

there's the fighting side of MMA. And

12:12

there's the other side. As you said

12:14

before, the entertainment side, the outside

12:16

of the cage side. I

12:18

just talked a lot later on. When

12:21

I was 16, I made a

12:23

post on the cage, what he was for, saying, I

12:25

am the best armature man's awake in the country. Does

12:27

anyone dispute this? It

12:30

got me just once. Do

12:32

you really believe it? Yes. Really? Yeah. And I was only

12:34

like, oh, four and all the time. Something stupid like that.

12:37

I was like, four and all. I ended up going nine

12:39

and all, armature. Beating a list of

12:41

people who would be pulling. Like,

12:44

the most hits ever on the armature forum.

12:46

So when I went pro, people were already

12:48

talking about me. I

12:51

just talked a bit naturally. That

12:55

side of things. People

12:57

take me out. I just got them. What

13:01

is it? A bit like all of it. It's just a

13:03

third of people. One of them.

13:05

I don't know. I don't see it. Would

13:09

you say you were born a fighter,

13:12

or did you make yourself a fighter? Probably

13:17

a bit of both, to be honest. I was born to

13:19

do something, definitely. But

13:21

then when I had me first fighting, got me on race, and

13:24

I got that feeling, I was like, yeah. I

13:27

know I was born to do this. This is what I

13:29

was meant to do. Get me on race like this. So

13:31

16, you knew you were that fit? Yeah, 16,

13:34

I knew that was it. Professional fire. And how long had

13:36

you been training? One year? Yeah,

13:38

when I had my first fighter, being like 15

13:40

months. Wow. I'm

13:43

tough back now. I've got good confidence. Yeah.

13:47

And you just knew? Yeah. Soon as I got

13:49

on race, I just knew. Like, yeah, this is

13:51

what I'm doing. That'll be like... That

13:53

must feel good. Because there's a lot of people in the

13:55

world. They're lost. Yeah. You're

13:58

not lost. No. I

14:00

just say as soon as I got the ambulance, I fear

14:02

that I'm going to always save people. I

14:04

can't really just get out of the feeling. The

14:08

only thing I may be able to compare to it

14:10

is when my wife gives birth. That

14:12

might be the only feeling when I compare to getting the ambulance

14:14

and the kids. And we have just

14:17

beaten them up. If that's one of the best

14:19

feelings in the world getting your hand raised, can

14:24

it hit you feeling low

14:27

and shit in between those

14:29

moments? When you've got to get up at five in

14:31

the morning and it's freezing cold. Of

14:35

course. You've got to take the

14:37

bad with the good. But obviously the eight

14:39

weeks building into the fight

14:41

is a form of

14:43

torture. It is.

14:46

The eight weeks you put yourself through leaving into a

14:48

fight is a form of torture. But you

14:51

get on with it. That's how good

14:53

that feeling is getting your hand raised. You

14:56

do it all for that little... Do

14:59

that eight weeks of torture for that one

15:02

little feeling. As I say,

15:04

there's no feeling like it. You

15:08

said earlier about you like food and you can

15:10

put on a bit of weight. So obviously you're

15:12

known for having to do quite big cuts. What's

15:15

your biggest cut? My biggest

15:17

cut was years ago. I don't really do

15:19

big cuts anymore. Like nowadays I'll do like

15:21

10 pounds overnight. Which

15:24

is not much for an MMA fighter

15:26

to be honest. When

15:29

I fought a sted away I've done something stupid

15:31

like 18 pounds overnight.

15:34

When I was like 21, 22. Did

15:37

you have anything in the tank when you fought in the 50s?

15:40

I felt terrible. 4th and 5th round I just survived

15:42

and then I got into the cage. I

15:45

was just shaking my pulse out of the engine. Does

15:49

that not make you not want to blow

15:52

up in between? Blow up? I just love

15:54

food too much. I just love food too

15:56

much. I'm like Homer

15:58

Simpson. you could

16:00

become the best in the

16:03

world and still love

16:06

food that much because surely

16:08

foods that like the diet's a big part of... Yeah there

16:10

is, you'll see in the next few years when I get

16:12

to like teddy-tay when I asked to, you know what I

16:14

mean? But now I've still got a little bit of a

16:16

child's metabolism at the same time, so I can get a

16:18

wee bit of it. She's had my normal

16:20

in a few years, I might be in cable and stuff.

16:23

Yeah. Oh he's has to go vegan and that. Yeah I

16:28

think that's a no. A lot

16:30

of people are now getting back to meat

16:32

off being vegan. Yeah I've missed bacon too

16:34

much. Yeah. I've couldn't go vegan with meat.

16:37

It's not a main meal, don't you? No.

16:40

No. Can we have a little

16:42

bit of a... I mean my show isn't

16:44

really just about fighting. Yeah. About a lot

16:47

more than that. But can we have like

16:49

a fighting round? Yeah I thought I've prepared

16:52

it earlier for you. Right.

16:56

Just a little. Would

16:58

you take a fight purely for the money if it was a

17:01

shit fight for you? It

17:04

depends how much money. Ten

17:06

million. Yeah. You would. Even

17:09

if it was bad style, you were going

17:11

down not up. It

17:14

wasn't likely. Yeah. For ten mil. Yeah.

17:16

For five? No. No. Maybe

17:19

even more than ten actually. It depends if it's against as

17:21

well. If it's somewhere out of respect, then

17:24

yeah that wouldn't man like going up and doing

17:26

a different discipline and all that. Yeah. But if

17:29

it's a helmet like Jake Paul, then nah. You

17:31

won. I want my fifteen mil. Fifty. Something like

17:33

that. Yeah. But as I say,

17:35

you're the autonomy manager. Yeah. I'm just

17:37

sitting here talking and there's not what comes from you

17:40

ever. But does he not consult

17:42

with you? Yeah he would obviously but

17:44

actually that's true. Yeah. Alright

17:46

fine. So

17:50

which fighter do you respect the most? Either

17:52

past or present? One

17:55

of my favorite. I love fighters.

17:57

Big nog. My girl. But

18:00

then there's a lot that I've spoke to.

18:03

He's one of the nicest fellas ever. So good.

18:05

George King, he had a few times. He's

18:07

one of the nicest men I've ever met in my life. Never managed

18:10

to fight her. I

18:12

used to love watching UFC in the early days. Do

18:15

you remember Andre Alosky? Yeah. Did

18:18

you write him? Yeah, he's still fighting now. He's

18:20

had about nine hours. He's had

18:22

about nine hours. He did. Sure,

18:24

I had a lot of people actually can't say

18:27

it. Yeah, he got films and

18:29

everything, didn't he? Yeah, he's a

18:31

legend, I lost. Yeah, guy

18:33

must be in what, 40s now? Yeah,

18:36

I think he is. As a heavyweight though, it's

18:38

not as bad. You can fight up to that age. How

18:41

come? Because the last thing

18:43

you lose is your power. Right. And the

18:48

worst thing that happens is speed anyway. I mean, that's

18:50

the first thing you lose. Then at the least. You

18:52

lose your speed, yeah, and after the slower. So heavyweight,

18:55

you should have noticed some of

18:57

them stay fighting for like four years. And then I...

19:01

That does not sound good for your brain. No, it's

19:03

probably not like... Yeah. ...for... ...you

19:05

do it. Yeah. Do you ever think

19:07

about when you should quit,

19:10

bearing in mind, look

19:13

at like, I know quite a lot of boxers,

19:16

and by the time they're 50, they can't

19:18

even talk. Yeah. Even like amateurs

19:20

who've had 12 fights, they just can't talk.

19:22

They just... You need to

19:24

take a lot more head damage and boxers and

19:26

all. Right. You take a lot more head damage.

19:29

Yeah. And it isn't focused

19:31

on the air than the body, you know what I

19:33

mean? We have a lot more targets, and it's not

19:35

just straight and there's everything to grapple as well. And...

19:38

But do you think about, right, age

19:40

35, 40, whatever, get out? Nah.

19:43

I was saying this the other week, when people would say I'm

19:45

Tony Pearson to the tyre, no

19:48

one can tell you when to retire. It's

19:50

up to the person. Yeah. It's up to you when

19:52

you want to retire. So... And maybe you

19:54

don't even know until you wake up and like... No, you have

19:56

to. You wake up one day and you're like, oh yeah, I

19:58

can't do this anymore. Yeah. So... I've never put

20:00

a date on him, I've never... I

20:03

just once. Yeah. Do you plan

20:06

your life after fighting? No,

20:11

not just yet. Still got a good few years fighting

20:14

with me. Yeah. Not think

20:16

about... Because, you

20:18

know, okay, a few fights might get a commentary

20:21

job or whatever, but I

20:23

mean, a lot of sportsmen who

20:25

are almost near the top after their career is

20:27

gone, find it really hard. Yeah, I'll finally wait

20:29

for someone, don't worry about that. I've already said

20:32

this, I've had nothing to film or something. Just

20:35

like that? Yeah. Careful. Yeah.

20:39

Where did this self-belief come from? I

20:41

would not be that confident. I really don't

20:43

know, you know. I actually don't know

20:45

myself. Don't know where they come from, I'm just... So

20:49

you literally feel like, do whatever, I'll be fine,

20:51

it's all good. Yeah. When it comes to certain

20:53

things, I'm not all good at it, nothing to

20:55

do with... Other

20:58

things, no. Even films, you know you're... Yeah,

21:01

I can ask me. Right. Yeah. Does

21:04

anything scare you? Does

21:07

she? The ocean.

21:09

Yeah. The ocean's very scary. I

21:12

don't know what's down there. Well,

21:14

we're safe around here. Anything

21:17

else? Never

21:20

been scared in a fight? No.

21:23

Never. Some points of

21:25

being scared, it's just you and him. Yeah,

21:28

but I think fear isn't a logic thing, is it?

21:30

Like, oh, don't be scared, mate. Yeah,

21:33

if there was a shark chasing

21:35

you, or a tiger chasing you and a certain...

21:37

Yeah, not another human being, another man. Who

21:41

was born just like you were. Yeah. But

21:46

he had no special power. I don't know, you can say something

21:48

about him. Say what you want, about him, I don't care. No

21:50

trash talk's ever got under your skin. No.

21:52

No, lad. I've been called everything.

21:56

By my mates. I've

21:59

been called... well-wasting by my mate's time

22:01

will ever get called by anyone other person

22:03

so I don't have to

22:05

worry about her. Have

22:09

you got any beef with Mark Zuckerberg? He's

22:11

a lizard, innit? Where'd

22:14

you come up with these phrases? Sausage. Just as

22:16

a lizard. I'm a

22:19

actual big man. What's a disabled

22:21

two different accountants? I

22:25

mean, some of them are pictures I'll never get

22:27

back with. Pictures from years ago. Tavi

22:30

Gotham, sitting there somewhere. Would

22:35

you fight him for 10 mil? Yeah. Did

22:39

you see when him and Elon Musk were talking about

22:41

that? They can't do that, are they? No. I

22:45

need to go to a GJ2 tournament, what? Suck

22:48

a big does. So I can just have one. The

22:51

lizard. Stand at the side,

22:53

call him a lizard. Gosh,

22:55

I'd fall off and I'd get a sub. We

22:58

can't really go all that way. What's

23:01

your dream fight? Someone

23:07

in Anfield. What's

23:10

my dream fight like? Probably, you'd

23:12

have to say Connellog, because you

23:14

get paid more than

23:17

fighting anyone else by fighting him. You'd

23:19

probably have to say him. Do you think you could make

23:21

Connell fight at Anfield? Anything

23:25

can happen, not me. How

23:29

would you see you fighting Connellog? You

23:33

wouldn't want to give too much away. No,

23:36

obviously, you'd just put him on his back at home, put him

23:38

in. I

23:41

reckon a lot of people would want that fight. Do

23:43

they make it? You'll see in the future, you never know. Do

23:46

fights happen because a lot of people

23:49

want the fight? It can

23:51

work like that. But everyone

23:53

wants Tyson Fury, Anthony

23:55

Jock. Oh, OK. How's it different?

24:00

because Dana and Sean

24:02

Shelby and Miss

24:04

Maynard make the fights in UFC where they haven't got

24:06

to go through different

24:08

like managers in doctrine

24:11

and sort of between different managers with the they're

24:14

all just under the same banner. So

24:17

you get sent to contact with an email and you're

24:19

sent in and send it back. Would

24:22

you fight anyone? Yeah I don't see the

24:24

point in saying oh one fighter, one fighter,

24:26

that's a fun fighter in your teammates. Yeah.

24:31

Who's the greatest fighter of all time? MMA.

24:35

Sean Jones. I

24:39

can't see anyone else there. And

24:42

greatest fighter of all time, any

24:45

fighter, any discipline. Probably

24:48

have to say Sean Jones again. Lock

24:50

him in the room with anyone of any discipline. He's

24:52

gonna kill him.

24:55

Do you think, because I saw Joe Rogan talking about

24:59

yeah of course, Tyson Fury's never grappled

25:01

before. Do you think Tyson Fury

25:03

would beat him in a boxing match? Yeah, yeah

25:06

you do. Of course

25:08

he would. Yeah.

25:10

He barely beat Francis. Not a

25:13

mistake. No. So

25:15

like in a kickboxing match you're like, I

25:18

fight. Yeah. I mean he'd get his legs

25:20

up with him immediately. Yeah. And we didn't

25:22

even beat Francis, which is proper to say.

25:25

I thought that was just going to be a stupid fight.

25:27

And then I thought Francis won. Thought

25:30

it was six rounds. Well, for 10 rounds

25:32

I fight five rounds each and he

25:35

had enough down with me so I thought

25:37

Francis won. So

25:39

was that good for Tyson? I mean he would

25:41

have cleared a packet of money for that fight wouldn't

25:44

he? Yeah. But was it good for him? No,

25:46

I personally don't think it was. It made him look

25:48

a bit silly didn't it? And that is therefore the

25:50

risk of? Yeah, that's the risk of doing them

25:52

fights, yeah exactly. That's the risk of doing them fights

25:54

somewhat from a different spot. It's even not

25:56

like he beat him down. He hasn't gotten any credit for beating him down

25:59

because it was a good fight. was in

26:01

Gany's debut, Interventional Boxing.

26:04

Why do you think that happened? Do

26:07

you think he just didn't take it seriously?

26:09

I don't know, I've got a clue. That's

26:11

the only explanation. Like Tyson

26:13

didn't say him properly. Yeah. Well, you don't

26:15

know. We're not in his team, so.

26:21

No. Can you share who

26:23

you're fighting next? I don't know. 400-year-old.

26:25

I have no idea.

26:28

Do you know when is? No. No. He

26:31

bears pregnant, that's all. Yeah. I'll let it

26:33

after he's kids. And

26:35

then we'll see what

26:37

happens after that. We've got a few months of night feed

26:40

and that to do first. And

26:42

we'll see when I can fight. It'll

26:44

be the second half of your life.

26:46

And how do you feel if you take longer distance

26:48

between fights? Do you like that or not like that?

26:50

It'll be easier to make way to. Yeah.

26:55

And what would normally be your ideal time

26:57

between fights? Well,

26:59

I haven't seen fights a year. Yeah.

27:01

So, a little four months or

27:03

something would be perfect. But as I

27:05

said, it's one of them, 4th of December. I

27:08

got on the last card of the year, so I

27:10

got quite lucky. Yeah. And then now

27:12

it's all

27:14

about me wife and then once

27:17

she has the kids and we're

27:20

settled a little bit, then I'll

27:22

take the one I get on the

27:24

side. Yeah. Francis and Ghanu, Anthony

27:27

Joshua, what's your prediction for that? Well,

27:31

after Bach Francis, we

27:34

know that much of a close fight with Tyson

27:37

Fury. If they

27:39

just him guess close, he goes

27:42

down, doesn't he? Bach

27:45

BMA guy, Bach Francis and Tyson

27:48

Fury, you think, what's your prediction on that

27:50

one? Yeah. Yeah. And do you think

27:57

Fury and Anthony Joshua, they're going to be in the next

27:59

round? Do you think the Joshua will happen? If

28:03

Joshua wins and Fiore wins then definitely

28:05

going to happen, isn't it? We'll see.

28:12

Do UFC fighters get paid fairly, in

28:14

your opinion? Yeah, they get paid what

28:16

you wear. Why

28:19

do a lot of people moan about UFC

28:22

fighters don't get paid? Just your face contact when you

28:24

go in. When you face contact it's like 10 and

28:26

10, so people say you should get more of that.

28:30

I fought on that contact, lad. Two

28:32

fights on it, 10 and 10, 12 and 12. And

28:35

then got me in contact, got me paywars,

28:38

and started getting paywars' worth. That's

28:40

what you've got to do. Stand

28:43

up. I

28:45

think that's just the realism of most jobs. Yeah, work

28:47

your way up. What's

28:50

the weirdest interaction with a fan you've ever

28:52

had? Probably had a good few

28:54

weird ones. I've got the worst memory in the

28:56

world. Maybe that's because

28:59

you've been hit a lot at times. It could be.

29:01

Could be because you've been punched in the head plenty

29:03

of times. I

29:06

remember years ago outside the O2 arena,

29:08

before I was in UFC, when Molly

29:10

four years ago went to Fishel, I

29:12

swear. Some fell outside, I

29:14

asked me to slap him across the face. Did

29:20

you lean into it a bit? No,

29:23

I pulled out a bit. I didn't want to knock him out with

29:25

a slap. I

29:27

didn't do it as hard as I could, but he was still

29:29

made of. I was mad at

29:31

the video and saying, you want

29:33

me to slap you, don't you? So

29:36

we were getting no lawsuit coming through the post. He was

29:38

like, you want me to slap you, don't you? He was

29:40

like, yeah, I want you to slap me. I

29:43

was like, sound, just step back. It

29:45

was a bit of a mad one to me. I'm

29:48

not a slapping like maybe

29:51

I'm being a bit of a dad here,

29:53

but fuck it. I'll just say it. But

29:55

you know that slapping fighting

29:57

me. Yeah, that looks to

29:59

me. Fucking dangerous. Yes, mad. Like

30:01

the most dangerous. I wouldn't do it.

30:03

Nah. I wouldn't do it like,

30:06

no, I mean, I'm good for that. How has that

30:08

got sanctioned? I don't know. Because

30:10

these guys are going to have brain damage in like

30:12

three fights. It

30:15

is every life. They just stood there getting

30:17

slapped across the face. Some of them closed their

30:19

eyes and that as well, which is waste. The

30:21

ones you don't see coming, whatever. You should always

30:24

be looking like some of them have their eyes

30:26

closed. And mad. Yeah, I'd

30:28

never do that sports, obviously. Right,

30:30

yeah. I'd... Well, you

30:33

can't intelligently defend

30:35

yourself. I mean,

30:37

I'm good for that. Yeah, surely that's

30:39

going to get banned in the future. Doesn't look like

30:41

that, lad. It looks like it's making money and there's...

30:44

That's probably why it's not being banned. Yeah, it's getting

30:46

used, so it's one of them, innit? Fuck,

30:48

yeah. What's the craziest thing that's

30:50

ever happened to you in your whole life? Say

30:52

that one. You thought of something. I

30:56

was like... I

30:59

went missing in Croatia for like 48 hours. Do

31:02

you know why you went missing? Can you remember?

31:05

Yeah. What happened? I was just

31:07

went missing. What happened? I turned up. That's

31:10

probably the maddest thing

31:12

that's ever happened to

31:14

me. Can

31:17

we get a timeline of the 48 hours? I

31:20

fell in a cactus in there. I

31:22

fell in a cactus. My bear was picking cactus out

31:24

of me for like nine

31:27

months. I'm not messing. I was just

31:29

embedded into my skin. I swear.

31:32

I was like shutting off a cartoon. I

31:34

was running down the hill, myself, and

31:36

I went like that. I landed on a cactus.

31:38

I swear. Thought it

31:40

had been bit by a sneeze out of the noise. I went

31:43

like... I was like, what? What the...

31:45

They have cactus in Croatia? Yeah. This little

31:48

island full of... I don't know. I don't

31:50

know. This little island full of... I

31:53

don't know. Cactus man. That's

31:57

one of the most painful things, haven't it?

32:00

It might be like getting punched in the head, doesn't

32:02

air that much anymore. Because you've

32:04

experienced worse. Yeah, because I've experienced worse. A lad

32:06

falling out of cactus. Not

32:09

messing up for a bandit, I'm on slower overs. Like

32:12

I said, I'd lie down on the bed, he'd be picking bits

32:14

of cactus out of me. That

32:16

was just like embedded in me skin, underneath a

32:18

layer. So for 40

32:20

hours you were pulling cactus out of

32:22

yourself. Were there other things involved? There

32:24

was other things involved, yeah. That

32:27

was a mad one, that, you know. Great

32:29

though, funny looking back. Kind memories.

32:32

We had a few decent, all these when we were younger.

32:34

Yeah. Do

32:37

you drink less

32:39

now, your professional sports much? I don't really

32:41

drink that much, to be honest. I'm not

32:43

a big drinker. But if

32:45

I'm going out,

32:47

on a night out with my mates, I'll have a

32:49

few drinks, I'll have a few drinks. But,

32:53

nah, I'm not one of them, so just go

32:55

to pub. And I'll have a couple of pints.

32:57

No, yeah. So you've always had it

32:59

under control, something you've had to battle with? Eh,

33:02

nah, when I was younger,

33:04

I used to like going out. I'd go

33:06

into festivals and that, and all of me. I'm just going

33:08

and having a drink. I used to

33:10

like going to festivals and stuff like that. Yeah. So,

33:16

four in ten children in

33:18

Liverpool live in poverty. How

33:21

do you feel about this and what can be

33:23

done about it? I've done an updated thing as

33:25

well, that's funny. Yeah. Because

33:27

I understand... Four in

33:29

ten? Yeah. How

33:33

is that even possible live in a city this

33:35

big? Yeah. Do

33:38

you think... That's fairly odd. Yeah. Like,

33:40

how do you think this country

33:42

is being run, like, specially post-COVID?

33:46

Because I will get cancelled off YouTube for saying that word.

33:48

Eh, I

33:51

don't even like talking about politics, love. I'm

33:53

going to just do all the gang of cunts.

33:56

I'd be one of them. But

33:59

I think... I sometimes think like that. I

34:01

sometimes think focus on yourself in your own world.

34:03

Yeah. Make a change that way. And

34:06

I sometimes think, well, I'm not a fucking

34:08

politician, but it is our country.

34:10

Yeah. And there's no democracy because we don't

34:12

get to vote. No, there isn't like. And

34:14

it's been fucking ruined. And if people don't

34:17

start talking about it, nothing's going to change.

34:19

That's how I feel as well.

34:21

Yeah. I

34:23

just don't think you're ever going to change anything. But I'm told

34:25

he's like, I should be hate somebody. I hate, as you know.

34:27

Well, I mean, they're probably going to be out. Even

34:30

a lot. Like it's mad when you think about

34:32

the lady, the leader, the city. Doesn't

34:35

make any sense. No. Say

34:37

it to your spammer. You just say, how

34:39

can you be in charge of the lady party? You've

34:43

got a nice hood. Yeah. Just

34:46

doesn't make sense. But, you know, we'll

34:48

see what happens. You need

34:50

another election. Don't we have another one for years? And

34:54

so, am I

34:56

right in reading into this? It pisses you off.

34:59

But you don't really get into it. You just crack on with your

35:01

own life. Yeah. Yeah. Even though you're

35:04

a powerful guy and you could maybe make a difference. I

35:06

try to. You know what I mean? That's one of the reasons. The

35:09

Vitality, the Body Foundation. What would

35:12

Santa look for you kids in the city? You know what I

35:14

mean? Santa goes back in that way. This

35:17

show is called Disruptors. And we always do a

35:19

Disruptors round. Just a few questions on that theme.

35:22

So, what's the biggest disruption that's ever happened in

35:24

your life? Probably

35:27

losing fights. When

35:31

you lose a fight, I think you can go with

35:33

bananas. I'll say that, nah. Probably want

35:36

to split up with the Mrs. for

35:38

the bit. Probably

35:40

go off the rails a little bit and she

35:43

keeps me on top. Was

35:46

the fighting and the intensity of

35:48

the lifestyle part of what made you split

35:50

up? Yeah, probably. I

35:53

was just a bit of a comfort. I was younger as well. About

36:00

five or six lose. I'm alive

36:03

that people can do that again,

36:05

Leaving him. And I mean. Three.

36:08

Two minute rounds on front of a

36:10

few people for child to have a

36:12

pet? Your fucking may I agree that

36:14

and yes, you'll want to die for

36:16

it fucking three times The S E

36:18

C A tie complain. As Seta said,

36:20

those say the glass I have a

36:23

law has. he was platinum obviously. So.

36:26

Long. For

36:29

is it me? Pay

36:33

him. Recently.

36:37

I am that are. Normally

36:39

that he lay possible my near. Tommy

36:42

and on all things bother Malaysia eras

36:44

that the toy for me and. He

36:47

there by people's hands off hard long names

36:50

have known him. Funny. So

36:52

it allows for the I'll put on the

36:54

group chat on the lawns and puts on

36:56

buffalo face all the lads apollo of you

36:58

another a small number now ali meters know

37:00

people know when I'm a pie com for

37:02

just. I. Just by people's

37:04

heads off and sloppy. I'm. Honestly

37:08

not a public Esteban that motor mouth

37:10

with them on ios app. Is.

37:13

Our worst part? Those I wakes. The

37:16

they always like at this point. Thought.

37:19

My life. I have. Responded

37:21

about it's never easy to spot and

37:23

the actual diet but that it's always

37:26

nice. Like.

37:29

Three or four weeks help, and you do when. I

37:32

fifteen sessions a week. On

37:35

the Barbie, she'll fall apart. For.

37:38

You gotta like states that. X

37:40

amount of calories. That's

37:42

funny. When I thought about the. Most.

37:45

People say the way cause I don't really mind

37:47

the wait was. Commanders. Or

37:49

there are no one that got the

37:51

on. I'm on the atom bomb the

37:54

way cause Alabama just got a naughty

37:56

what's not reason than. cameo

37:58

equals get him box on Have

38:01

you ever had a fight camp? You felt

38:03

gone not that well and maybe dented your

38:05

confidence for the fight? Yeah,

38:07

I've had several fight camps.

38:11

Not every fight camp goes great.

38:13

A lot of fight camps. Normally

38:16

when I have a bad fight camp I have a better fight.

38:19

Why is that? I don't know. It doesn't make sense.

38:23

Is it maybe because you... Do you ever over train?

38:27

In the past, yeah. But now we look at

38:29

everything from the scientific point of view and like

38:32

Paul really do's me, SNC, coach, I'm a new

38:34

technician. I

38:38

have like a fitness band.

38:40

I mean he can check

38:42

me sleep, check all me time. He's always over there

38:44

with me. He

38:46

just lets me know, you need the rest of that. You don't

38:48

be doing anything else tonight. So... We

38:51

look at it from that point of view and I will

38:53

obviously tell you as you always just keep training until you

38:55

know I'm solid. What's

38:59

the biggest risk you've ever taken in your whole life? Not

39:02

trying to do UFC. Oh

39:05

you had a chance to? Yeah. And

39:07

you turned it down? How come? Just

39:09

did the offer me when I was 21 and

39:11

then again when I was 23, I was

39:14

23 and I said no both times. Because

39:20

I just didn't feel like I was ready. I was still

39:22

a kid. I mean I hadn't matured yet. I've

39:25

only just become a man about two years ago

39:27

now. So I'm made

39:29

of. Thinking about it

39:31

now is one of the best

39:33

decisions ever made but it's probably the

39:35

hardest decision at the time. Yeah. What's

39:39

the most brutal life lesson you've ever had? Probably

39:42

never go into a fight injured. Because

39:45

I thought

39:47

someone and I had a choke on in the first round

39:49

and I couldn't finish it because my arm was still injured.

39:53

And then he took me down for

39:55

four rounds and punched me in the face. So that

39:57

was probably the... Ah,

40:00

this last night I had to learn. Never

40:02

going to a fight in it. Because

40:05

I didn't. I literally

40:07

got a talk away from me. I

40:09

was there. Yeah. What's

40:12

the most disruptive thing anyone's ever said or

40:15

done to you? Been called all

40:17

sorts of. Anything ever really

40:19

got under your skin? When

40:21

people sing Hills, we'll just go for the match. When

40:24

they do what, sorry? Sing Hills, but song is the

40:26

match. I mean that one really does

40:28

get under my skin. You

40:31

go a lot to the game? Yeah, I had lots of punch on my

40:33

face at the time. Yeah. We

40:38

are those. Yeah.

40:42

Right, we also have a quick fire round. Let's

40:44

do this. Would you take 1

40:46

million cash or 1 million

40:48

engaged social media followers, which one and why? Hm?

40:53

Obviously. You're looking at

40:55

me like that's a shit question. Obviously

40:57

I'm taking a million cash. Why

40:59

obviously? Because anyone

41:02

who takes a million and engaging on social

41:04

media is a fucking helmet. That's

41:06

why. He's a fucking idiot. I'm at about 12. What's

41:09

at about 12? At about 12. Oh,

41:12

about 12. Yeah. Right. But

41:15

you could monetize a million followers.

41:17

What, you got more than a million followers? Yeah.

41:21

You could do a brand deal. I haven't got a million-pound cash. Someone

41:24

wants to give me a million-pound cash. No, I

41:26

mean, I'm here. Anytime.

41:30

Come round to ask. Alright.

41:36

Does money make you happy? No. Why

41:39

not? To be

41:41

the richest man in the world. I'd be

41:43

the loneliest person ever. I

41:45

don't think money makes you happy at all.

41:47

But couldn't? Obviously you couldn't buy short

41:50

spare for happiness with money. But

41:52

not long-term happiness, no. But

41:55

if you're always broken, struggling for money, is

41:57

that not the opposite of happiness?

42:00

No, it

42:02

depends if you've got around you. Definitely.

42:06

Money comes and goes. Family

42:08

and that don't. What's

42:10

your biggest pay day? What

42:12

is my biggest pay day? Yeah, most of you have

42:14

been paid in one deal or one site. Don't

42:17

know, we have to ask my manager. What's

42:19

his biggest pay day? Yeah,

42:24

family of the bar still deals when they

42:26

got there. How

42:29

much? Seven

42:32

figures. A million pounds it was

42:34

over two years. Did you

42:36

enjoy doing that? Yeah, I did. Oh,

42:39

that's good. Yeah,

42:41

because a lot of people talk down sponsors.

42:43

I remember I interviewed Jackie Stewart, the

42:46

famous... Joffee of

42:48

the Formula One. Yeah, and he said, I've had

42:51

Rolex as a sponsor for 35 years and I loved

42:53

them. I just

42:55

thought it was nice that instead of just taking

42:57

sponsors' money and... I

43:00

can't talk and shit, you actually have a good relationship

43:02

with the sponsor. That's how it should be. It is.

43:04

It always should be like that with the sponsors. I'm

43:06

still not sponsored by them but we still have a

43:08

good relationship now. It's the way

43:11

it should be. What's

43:15

the best advice you ever received or

43:17

that you can remember? I

43:20

definitely had something for this. Someone said something to

43:22

me. I

43:24

can't think. I have to come back to that. That's

43:27

what's happening here, don't sign the drink. Something. Yeah,

43:30

we'll come back to that. Okay. What's

43:32

the worst advice you ever received?

43:35

I get it every day on the internet. Couldn't

43:38

we call that a drive? Oh, and

43:40

they all try and give you life. Yeah, people,

43:42

I'm sure supporters try and give you advice. Yeah.

43:46

I shouldn't have done this when you were fighting Tony Ferguson. What?

43:52

Someone takes all the lactation

43:54

from Milton Keynes, saying it

43:56

then. But, you

43:58

know, you get on with it. used to,

44:00

that's just an everyday thing, people can give

44:02

you advice and say stuff to you. What's

44:07

your biggest regret? Doing that fight

44:09

when I was injured. Yeah. Got a loss on

44:11

me record, I got paid like, I got money for

44:14

it which is good in the long

44:16

run but yeah, probably

44:18

wouldn't have done that fight when I was going to the 5th injured.

44:21

I lost because of that, I'm good at one.

44:24

Do you think it's good though? I mean I know I'm sure every

44:27

fighter doesn't want a loss on their record. Yeah,

44:29

obviously everything happened to the reason, it made me the

44:31

man I am today. I wouldn't, because

44:34

that was the fight where I lost and then I went into

44:36

a deep depression and I did

44:38

contemplate all sorts of different things so

44:41

without that fight I would never have had them hardships.

44:44

And was it because of the loss? Yeah,

44:47

they all started from that. Yeah.

44:49

And why do you think you spiralled down? Because

44:55

I had an injury before that, I got surgery

44:57

on the 10th of May on

45:00

my aunt on the 4th on the 1st

45:02

of September so

45:04

my aunt wasn't really recovered so I just felt

45:07

I didn't want to pull out of the show, the show

45:09

was relying on me, it was in the arena, felt like

45:11

all the lads wouldn't be able to fight if I pulled

45:14

out he'd just cancel the show so I

45:16

was just done the fight anyway even though my aunt was still

45:18

tough. I

45:20

thought less

45:22

than four months before

45:25

after I'd had this done and

45:27

obviously I was still wearing the splint

45:29

when I was training on that so

45:33

I went into the fight, I had them in

45:35

the arena to choke on the first round for

45:37

about three minutes and if

45:40

the other aunt was underneath he would have went to sleep because

45:42

it was that arm and it had no strength in it, I

45:44

couldn't finish it and then I gasped,

45:46

I broke my hand again in the second round

45:48

and then it dominated 3, 4 and 5 and

45:50

he beat me on the 2nd and

45:54

just because the wire happened I

45:58

was that close and winning. I don't

46:00

know what I mean. That's close.

46:03

And then that's what happens in this

46:05

sport. I'd get stuff away from you. And

46:08

obviously I broke my hand again. I

46:11

couldn't fight. I had to show

46:13

the one that was there, that was September. Obviously

46:16

getting called all hands on the Internet and everything. And

46:19

then I had to wait until like

46:21

the next October. I had to get

46:23

surgery again in

46:25

like the March or something. Or

46:27

in January, I can't even remember. I got surgery again

46:29

though. I had two surgeries on this

46:31

one. I

46:34

come back the next October or

46:36

November, like 14 months later. And

46:39

the opponent missed weight by 10 pounds. Which

46:42

you could lose in a day. Which I didn't that so I didn't

46:45

end the fighting. Yeah. I

46:47

didn't end the fighting until March

46:49

with no crowd. Before

46:51

the weekend the Covid restrictions were

46:53

frozen. What was your

46:55

last point, your last moment? Every morning.

46:59

Every morning I'd wake up after that. Even

47:01

like the week after the fight

47:03

obviously you're still thinking about the

47:06

fight. But then even after that

47:08

weeks later when me missus was getting up and going

47:10

to work. And I'd just roll over like 8 in

47:12

the morning. I'd just start crying. Start

47:14

crying my eyes out. Just be like, what? You're

47:17

finished? Like saying

47:20

stuff like that. I'm like, don't do that.

47:24

And can you remember a moment where you

47:26

turned it round? Was there... I

47:30

had to

47:33

speak to someone. Obviously I spoke to...

47:37

I never spoke to anyone about it. Just clued

47:40

up with it. I didn't want to mention

47:42

to anyone. I finally mentioned to one of

47:44

my mates. And he said, get it off

47:46

your chest. I promised I had a

47:48

little... Told him

47:50

about it. Told someone else about it. I

47:53

had to stretch more and bulk up and I did. I

47:55

felt better. I had to say that so that

47:57

more people... people

48:00

would go out and be able to have the chest. I don't know if I'm

48:03

here. I have to get told to do it. Yeah. Well,

48:06

I've got something here that you said, and

48:09

it really went viral. And there's

48:12

a stigma in this world that men can't talk.

48:14

Listen, if you're a man and you've got a

48:16

weight on your shoulders, and you think the only

48:18

way you can solve it is by killing yourself,

48:20

please speak to someone, speak to anyone, people

48:23

would rather you cry on their shoulder than

48:25

go to your funeral. Yeah.

48:28

That's pretty fucking beautiful, those words are.

48:30

Stand by it though. It goes outside.

48:32

There's still people killing themselves now. But

48:36

I think I hope what

48:38

I said helped people, speak

48:41

to people. I mean, I've been to charity

48:43

dues and other nights and stuff like that since. And

48:45

I've had several people come up to me and say,

48:47

oh, what you said saved my life. And then just

48:49

one person coming up to me saying that makes it

48:52

worthwhile. Never

48:54

mind, several. Yeah. And

48:56

do you think it's particularly

49:00

with mental health issues as sort

49:02

of particular in men, do you think we're pretty shit

49:04

at talking about it? Yeah, it's just because we're like,

49:06

I don't want to bother him with that. I don't

49:08

know if we've got his own stuff going on. But

49:11

then at the same time, like if I start speaking to you guys,

49:14

then you start getting it off your chest and talking to me about

49:16

it. That's the good thing about

49:18

it. I don't know. Women do it

49:20

anyway. Sit and have a cup of tea and jangle and talk

49:22

shit that I was doing all night. No

49:26

comment. Sit there and have

49:29

a cup of tea and talk shit for hours. Just

49:32

talk shit about it. It was been for hours and hours. We

49:36

wouldn't really go to my meeting. Start talking about

49:38

it. Anyway, hopefully

49:41

men now will speak a little bit more

49:43

and mention this dummy at

49:45

the middle of the day. People will start talking

49:47

about it. That's just what I hope. And

49:51

people always say to me, oh, you're doing

49:53

amazing things, that's just

49:55

what anyone in my position should be talking about.

49:58

Anyone should be saying that. Yeah, it's

50:00

still the biggest killer of men Over

50:04

the age of what 22 is not one or

50:06

something like that. So aside between the age of

50:08

21 or 45 still the biggest killer Fuck

50:13

is that like forever or is that a more

50:15

recent thing that's happened? No, that's more recent

50:17

But I hold a pass quickly. I'm a someone

50:19

telling me that right? Why

50:21

do you think that? Obviously

50:24

as you mentioned before poverty plays a big part

50:26

in it for them ten children live

50:29

a pool of Going

50:31

up in poverty Obviously they're

50:33

gonna have mental obstacles going on. That's just

50:36

gonna keep spiraling I mean and then there's

50:38

obviously there's other ways of having I

50:40

know people who are like, it's obviously the

50:42

sports people The kid

50:44

here doesn't it's after you think it will and then

50:46

the end up spiraling that way And people who end

50:48

up losing the job losing weight they live only and

50:51

send up on the street There's

50:53

all sorts of things like that And

50:56

if you had like a tip or

50:58

a mental health Thing

51:00

to say that would just help people. What would

51:03

you say? Okay,

51:05

just just talk to someone anyone anyone

51:07

doesn't have to be a therapist. No

51:13

If you really don't feel like it don't

51:16

speak to me Speak

51:18

to someone's better than Chilling

51:21

me on the other side, you know, I

51:23

mean yourself or taking all the pills Yeah,

51:26

so you did you have a friend? Did you reach out

51:28

to a friend or did they notice something was up with

51:30

you and they said are you alright? I did And

51:33

then I can't even remember to honest of a sitting

51:36

like this just chill and watching something We

51:38

just started talking about it. I don't know if he mentioned it

51:40

to me. I'm Yeah But

51:43

like obviously you feel we've mentioned it to you

51:45

that your wife or the other that I don't

51:48

want to mention That's obviously you mentioned to him

51:50

first. That's why I felt And

51:53

do you find yourself now just checking in with

51:55

your mates that they're okay? Yeah. Yeah, cuz sometimes

51:57

that's all it takes. Yeah, it is I

52:00

thought of this. We

52:02

have a group chat, so most of the time, until

52:05

someone gets lettered in and they leave. And

52:08

then you've got to start getting on people on the side of the

52:10

chat. Yeah. What

52:15

would you like your legacy to be? How would you like

52:17

to be remembered? I'd

52:19

like to just be remembered as a nice person. First

52:23

and foremost, he was sounding. He

52:26

was sad and not a major. Just that. He

52:28

was sad and as long as people

52:30

don't think of

52:37

us as cunts, I'm

52:39

happy. And

52:42

then what about your fighting

52:44

legacy? As

52:46

I say earlier, I want to bring my UFC to

52:48

my field. That's my goal. I'd probably rather bring my

52:50

UFC to my field than bring a UFC title. Have

52:53

you ever talked to Dana about that? No.

52:57

But we'll see. We'll see what happens in the future. I

53:00

wouldn't want to be the fourth English person to

53:02

win a UFC title. I want to be an

53:05

advisory to face persons winning a UFC round field.

53:07

Yeah. UFC, where do you

53:09

think it's at right now? In its journey,

53:11

obviously, it was underground. It blew the fuck

53:13

up. Where do you think it is now?

53:17

It's a bit of a mean scene now. Can't

53:20

get much more mean scene. Do

53:23

you think it's not getting affected by

53:25

lots of breakaway competitive? No,

53:28

not really. UFC is still

53:30

the number one promotion. There always will

53:32

be. You're not really

53:35

seeing faces leaving UFC to go see these

53:37

other promotions unless they're old.

53:40

This has been Epic. Thank you very much. Where

53:50

do you think it's at right now? In its

53:52

journey, obviously, it was underground. It blew the fuck

53:54

up. Where do you think it is now? Mean

53:57

scene now, isn't it? Can

54:00

I get much more mainstream? Do

54:03

you think he's not getting affected

54:05

by lots of breakaway competitive? No,

54:08

not really. UFC is

54:10

still the number one promotion there always will

54:12

be. You're not

54:15

really seeing faces leaving UFC to go with

54:17

these other promotions unless they're old.

54:21

This has been Epic, thank you very much. Appreciate

54:24

it, Slice. Thank you very much. Thanks a

54:26

lot. Thank

54:30

you.