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What can everyone to a special
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episode of dissect? I'm your Host
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Caucus China I am respectfully putting
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a temporary paws on our current
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season on Mf Doom and Mad
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Villainy to discuss one of the
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wildest weekends I have ever experienced
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in terms of music. Of course,
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talking about Drake and Kendrick Lamar's
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ongoing feud that erupted in epic
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proportions this weekend. Barring any dramatic
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events that might occur this week,
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I will be resuming the Mf
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Doom season next week. But
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for now, we're going to do a two part
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episode today. Part. One which are
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listening to right now is a conversation
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between myself and the ringers just in
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Sales and Charles Homes. We go through
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the main timeline of events and songs,
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mostly focusing on this past weekend, giving
1:00
our opinions. We try to declare winner
1:03
at the end, and we cap it
1:05
off by ranking our favorite three tracks
1:07
that came from this beef. Part.
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To which is also available right
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now. Is. A line by
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line day section of Kendrick Lamar's
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Euphoria. Yes, I couldn't help
1:17
myself. I started working on it centrally immediately
1:19
after it came out before. The.
1:21
Events occurred this weekend, but it's all valid
1:24
analysis. And if you're a fan of Kendrick
1:26
Lamar, I think he'll definitely
1:28
enjoy that episode. There are some really
1:30
great references entendre as wordplay The really
1:32
great stuff I think you'll enjoy. I
1:35
was surprised by. Many. Of the
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findings. So. Hope you guys enjoy both
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parts. It's. Been a one how of
1:41
a that's for sure. And. Again, we're
1:43
going to resume our Dm season next week
1:45
next Tuesday. But. In the meantime,
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here's my conversation with Just In Sales and
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Charles Homes. Or.
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I it is to pm west
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coast time on Monday afternoon. As of
1:57
right now, Kendrick Lamar has not responded
1:59
to. The latest distract The hard
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part. six. I'm. Here with
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Just In Sales the music lead for the
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Ringer. And trolls homes. As
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you guys know from last I'm standing
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up. Also a part of the Midnight
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Boys. We're. There we
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see, we are here to discuss
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I think what is one of
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the most significant music history events
2:20
that will probably experience in our
2:22
lifetime. We're. Going to go
2:24
through the time live in a vat of
2:26
events. Were gonna get our takes for granted,
2:29
maybe determine a winner at the end. But
2:31
first let's just get a temperature check. How.
2:33
You guys feel and. Charles Star with
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you. Welcome back to the show and
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would you feel and. Ah,
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Thank you for having me. There.
2:43
Are times in a career you know there
2:45
are times that occurs, especially at the ringer
2:47
where. You. know the be
2:49
seen as gonna get its blood
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and dogs.see but my editor. On
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miss sexist and my life is ruined
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I'm not. I was like getting fucked
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up on the we can. waking up
3:01
all over it would tax being like
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would you wake up sorrows the thought
3:05
to be like writing a song over
3:08
my i'm going to take a nap
3:10
and that I wake up again it's
3:12
as if you like stance of dropped
3:15
again in all my thought process the
3:17
has this phone by you want to
3:19
know how the oh now a cold
3:21
yeah pretty as big as you. Are
3:25
not as big as your vision I I. Lived
3:29
in a way for five almost six
3:31
months now. This. Weekend
3:33
is the first weekend where I played
3:35
of really played a kinda tracks in
3:37
my car. Blasted. A and
3:39
wrote. A
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specific we're here for fitness you have
3:44
no idea as a you know my
3:46
my sister I said and for Kendrick
3:48
Lamar. you add in our history. That.
3:51
Makes me so happy. I know that's why I'm so
3:53
he says I. Just did
3:55
have a jew. Well first of all, I'm
3:58
prepared for Charles to drop his disown. The
4:00
Me at some point this is episode so
4:02
we got that going for us. I'm I'm
4:04
happy to be here and I'm happy to
4:07
be here to discuss. A Rat
4:09
Beef with Coal Costner where we
4:11
get to discuss things like a
4:13
minor in be Sounds. Like
4:17
so you ever think we see
4:20
the day where it's like if
4:22
this the the rat these as
4:24
gotten so specifically into a Coles
4:26
wheelhouse that we're going to break
4:28
out the middle Controller Madison Reed
4:30
army of. That was funny because
4:32
seeing. We been. Cold colleagues
4:35
and friends. I get to see
4:37
him breaking down stuff and real
4:39
times and there was one part
4:41
of our troops Effect of is
4:44
like young guys in a minor
4:46
minor ebony like actually it's not
4:48
that that are all Stewart see
4:50
prefer for the I'm so excited
4:52
Yeah he drops a minor line
4:55
and. I've. Always loved doing
4:57
the the keep the to check the
4:59
key of the sun goes down my
5:01
phone. half the songs I listen to
5:03
because he came out so late when
5:05
I was putting my girls to bed.
5:07
So like literally I had headphones on
5:09
listening to these Districts Why I'm laying
5:11
next to the my daughter put here
5:13
to bed. So it's like the circumstances
5:15
under which I've been find dissect and
5:17
analyzes to spin. Completely. While
5:19
that the colon really quit I have
5:22
to ask. What? Is
5:24
experience like of talking your children
5:26
in while me to Graham is
5:28
playing in your head? Know what
5:30
a good as we're going to
5:32
get there specifically that because that
5:34
one I did. I was
5:36
literally. Not. To get too personal. but
5:38
I was putting may. I. Lay.
5:40
with my youngest daughter. Before.
5:43
And wait for her to go to sleep before
5:45
leave the room. And I listen to that
5:47
song in the dark. Hibbert
5:50
rule. it was awful
5:52
his see what mouth.
5:55
Was not pleasant. Will get there but
5:58
dollars a dark moments. It
6:00
just in general so but there
6:02
is a been highs and lows
6:04
we'll talk about him. All this
6:06
is going into the timeline so.
6:08
Renege. Grin to spend the majority of our time
6:10
on the on this past weekend, but we got it
6:13
kind of. Set. That up so. October.
6:16
Six Two Thousand and Twenty three. Drake
6:18
and a call release first person shooter.
6:20
This is the inciting incident. We didn't
6:23
know it back then, but everything be
6:25
traced back for this specific blow up.
6:27
I think everything can be traced back
6:29
to First person Shooter and J. Cole
6:32
and Drake teaming up. And. Cut
6:34
gloating about their dominance of
6:36
hip hop. Six.
6:39
Months later we get a much better
6:41
Boom and and Futures album We Don't
6:43
Trust You which of course features like
6:45
that. This is March twenty second and
6:47
all help hell breaks loose. April
6:50
fifth: J. Cause the first one
6:52
to respond to like that with seven
6:54
minute drill. Two. Days later
6:56
he apologized to get to spend too
6:58
much time on this because the apology
7:01
was clown in the moment but as
7:03
looking better and better as the time
7:05
has progressed and then we get. The.
7:08
The real response? I think everyone was waiting
7:10
for. April Thirteenth.
7:12
Ah, Drapes, pushups, and url. A
7:14
A rough draft of it
7:17
leaks online, which then pushes
7:19
Drake to. Release. The
7:21
actual finish spurs and to act
7:23
on streaming less like about five
7:25
days later it goes officially the
7:27
streaming on April nineteenth and this
7:29
feels like the first major thing
7:32
I want to talk to you
7:34
guys about the strikes First Response:
7:36
So. The main angle. He.
7:39
Took on Kendrick. was this
7:41
relationship between Kendrick and Top
7:43
Dog and Kendrick claiming he's
7:45
being exploited while on Tv?
7:48
He? He also. Kind.
7:50
Of was poking fun at
7:52
tendered being short. ah he
7:54
also takes aim at future
7:56
Metro weekend Rick Ross, Jamarat
7:58
Samaranch album Senseless. They despise the
8:00
job Maria is. You do some research
8:03
on your life that probably was the
8:05
greatest or sought to take. I did,
8:07
citizens and so on. That so let's
8:09
pause here. Just. And
8:11
was you think about percent in the moment
8:13
and now that it's Aids, what are your
8:15
thoughts on? Specifically Pushups? Did a work. Is
8:17
it a good song? Were. Your
8:20
thoughts. When it dropped in
8:22
the groups and sat out Logan Murdoch
8:24
who's on the group sat with us
8:26
from real ones arm. I. Think
8:28
I was higher on the song than
8:30
every one immediately. Ah
8:32
I. Thought it worked.
8:34
I thought that is. There were a
8:37
lot of really clever lines I thought.
8:39
Especially when like to finish version dropped later
8:42
that afternoon with see Be Sacked kind of
8:44
interpolated biggies: what's beef I thought this was
8:46
a good saw a total. Was curious that
8:48
he removes some of the more interesting lines
8:50
from the original version like some of the
8:53
was fired at Rick Ross. com. I.
8:56
Really saw in that moment that. If.
8:58
This was going to turn out to an eternity
9:01
went all out bloodbath. Which it did. I
9:03
thought that Drake had a chance to win. I.
9:06
Didn't think that. we can get into
9:08
will get into this. Are. We going to get this
9:11
adult the on. Satellite against us right now.
9:13
I'm. Within. Three Hours. I
9:15
did not think that though because the
9:17
second that Rick Ross drop some Edu
9:19
you just Rick Ross drop in of
9:22
course had that monologue at the end
9:24
and I mean he saying a lot
9:26
of things that you know he was
9:28
calling Drake a white boy law and
9:30
single out as I said the white
9:33
boy and gonna take. This
9:36
as. A
9:38
Thank you thank you for the assist on that one so that. It
9:42
was really that the part that did. Of for
9:44
me was the you got the surgery
9:47
those aren't real abs the you were
9:49
you be know you got your dockers
9:51
with no underwear on. It was like
9:54
you realize in that moment it doesn't
9:56
matter how well Drake wraps he's going
9:58
to have this uphill battle because he
10:01
is the most quotable man ever and.
10:04
I didn't know of Kendrick had a minute
10:06
had it in him to do what he
10:08
eventually did, but I was like just simply
10:10
simply the Rick Ross of this Drake to
10:12
not go at somebody who's funnier than him.
10:14
He just he's to cloud double. He's going
10:16
to lose this. Charles.
10:19
Where do they get pushers? Ri.
10:22
So as the only are wrap
10:24
writer alive that it's on compromised
10:27
by this whole thing research for
10:29
non biased, never exercise. ah pushups
10:31
was never the record and people
10:33
want a push up to be
10:35
the record So. Bad. They
10:37
were. it was. We've been waiting
10:40
for this for over a decade rate and
10:42
I think would push ups drops. I was
10:44
like this is not a bad song but
10:47
a I think the genius of what metro
10:49
What Metro boom in a future date is
10:51
a speed of Fighting. And
10:54
seen already some. The. Funniest
10:56
line on push ups is Metro sister
10:58
how I felt someplace of drugs like
11:00
that in both under the anything says
11:02
about and Up and most is that
11:04
he says about and eight. Job
11:06
you know, kinda disorder and he has it. Lets
11:09
you know in his shoe sizes also got a weird
11:11
a little bit. ah but. I
11:14
always felt like push subsist. Also,
11:16
in terms of like that. Dot.
11:18
Lesser because Drake is supposed to be
11:21
the ortiz that makes the hit. Them
11:24
just. Something to hear everywhere and
11:26
push us. Was not like that. I
11:28
think it debuted on. Number.
11:30
Nights mean on the hot one hundred and
11:32
I would honestly say it's process is almost
11:34
kind of been lost to history already. but
11:37
we don't talk about it anymore. As
11:39
I am that were already talking about dividing
11:41
the attention like Drake is Germany and will
11:43
work to try to fight a battle on
11:46
the always flows that way when it's twenty
11:48
one according to him to sign on one
11:50
I know but. The.
11:53
I think I mean for me pushups in the
11:55
moment I thought it was good but. If
11:58
I've either that given the task, Give aiming
12:00
at every one which he had to do at that
12:02
point. I think he accomplished. In.
12:05
In an opening round and deflate retrospect,
12:07
an opening round, it was a solid
12:09
effort. I it felt. Like
12:12
jabs and it turned out to
12:14
be jobs. But. I
12:16
said, I thought it worked. I think it's a
12:18
solid songbird. Charles I figured you're dead on in
12:21
that. It. Hasn't really.
12:23
Hit in the way like a back to
12:26
back although that's obviously that the high bar
12:28
but it it just hasn't sustained. I'm is
12:30
it that in a way that like that
12:32
has throughout all of this I would emails
12:35
Euphoria has not to step on your app
12:37
but it's like yeah. Thousand. Next
12:39
response in were just looking at the streaming
12:41
numbers and white where things are debuting. It.
12:45
Push Ups kind of got stepped on it
12:47
and I think the main angle he took
12:49
was a flawed one and it didn't I
12:51
feel like of Beatrice's a hearing Process thoughts.
12:53
I don't think it landed in the way
12:55
that maybe he thought it would in terms
12:57
of Kendrick was being extorted. Top
13:00
was taking fifty percent of his royalties.
13:02
Even if he didn't know the fact that
13:05
Kendrick was out of that deal at the
13:07
time. which is true, the whole extortion thing.
13:10
Didn't. Really register to me personally. it
13:12
didn't seem like a widely it did either.
13:15
Just and what you think about that part
13:17
of it. I. Thought he took the wrong
13:19
lesson from pusher of that from pretty story of
13:21
added on I thought he heard the ah. The.
13:24
And count different baby. Divide The pie is
13:26
like ah, that's how I get. I'm all
13:28
right. This is. This.
13:31
Line these lies about. Top
13:34
Dog and Kendrick contracts are
13:36
coming from a guy who
13:39
was signed. Two. Babies.
13:41
Label the like this psycho and I'm a
13:43
big of a sad to hear what we
13:46
are. As sad as line is it, I
13:48
mean assigned to Wane. Signed to Burn Men,
13:50
Signed a Universal. so if you're making the
13:52
case it's eat. The same thing is t
13:54
the Interscope Universal and all the panels back
13:57
to the same shit. It's. Is crazy in
13:59
a movie? Guys have both evolved past
14:01
their initial be all right here, like
14:03
they are both like wildly successful. But
14:06
that's also the thing. Kendrick had already
14:08
moved past the deal visit him around
14:10
the big separate was his last deal
14:12
with Td he he isn't even and
14:15
this Kendrick so distributed by Universal right
14:17
because failures the of both of both
14:19
of the but I think they both
14:21
probably have. Maybe not not a
14:24
terribly be similar deals where much you
14:26
both. It's a side streets of a
14:28
label now so it's near the voters.
14:30
They're both under licensing agreements that sounds
14:32
like the on their masters and as
14:34
this is very calm and now so
14:36
as yes I'm like why would the
14:38
general public give a fuck about royalty
14:40
splits a deals that are not even
14:42
on the table anymore It's a start
14:44
seem like a massive. Miss. Having
14:46
to wait and from I think the the rollout
14:48
you know not to get to granular about it
14:50
but like I do think the league the speculation
14:53
of a I than him having to rush the
14:55
release. Through. Act didn't help
14:57
his case, didn't help the impact of
14:59
it, right? So the
15:01
strategic lever can talk about strategy a lot
15:03
that's felt like a miss. Work could have
15:05
been a bigger moment. Had have been
15:07
a little bit cleaner of a release. as
15:09
it doesn't kind of dead some the impact as
15:11
well. Because. Everything were in pushups before.
15:14
Move on. Know. Pigmented Act. I
15:16
just want to know for going
15:18
to be discussing Axa Inbox and
15:20
his door-orders of so how many
15:22
Eyes. As
15:24
soon as it forever reference those that
15:27
are no, no he he accidentally pulled
15:29
up his email on stream yesterday guess
15:31
and like it's just literally door fact
15:33
we were-orders listening as as an editor
15:35
has been brought up through the Bill
15:38
Simmons off. Farm. Farm
15:40
System. I nearly. Hit
15:42
up the Charles or another writer
15:44
is like a wants to do
15:46
a running diary of this weekend.
15:49
a fake one from the perspective
15:51
that with academics door-orders as a
15:53
time stamp on our Dominica block
15:55
Charles. I'm not
15:57
even act as no, no, I
15:59
saw. It's not
16:01
worth the content just as a super
16:03
star one. One thing I'll just point
16:06
out. That.
16:08
I think is gonna be important. Just.
16:10
To remind people in pushups. Drake
16:12
says I be with somebody guards
16:14
like whitney. This.
16:16
Line is the illusion
16:18
to Kendrick Lamar's. Partner.
16:23
Former fiance uttered the status of the
16:25
relationship is unknown but ah it is
16:27
alluding to her a lot of
16:29
people ticket as. A
16:31
claim or an allusion to Whitney cheating
16:34
on Kendrick with one of her bodyguard.
16:36
It turns out it in my. Estimation
16:39
that this is actually hit Her Alluding
16:41
to. Whitney. Being like
16:43
Whitney Houston. Who. Was abused
16:46
by. Where. My blogging
16:48
on and now ramp or around.
16:50
Sorry. And so in retrospect, I
16:52
think that was a very, very
16:55
strategic. Little. Yeah, a debt
16:57
that Drake planted. That he kendrick
16:59
one one hundred percent. Understand.
17:02
But. We misinterpreted the line as him
17:04
saying like a Whitney Houston in the
17:06
movie slept with her bodyguard for those
17:09
are less than thirty and founder of
17:11
course But what we speculated what Drake
17:13
meant. Is. Was.
17:15
Wrong. Most. The Right speculated that
17:18
the and Tonge was. The. When Houston
17:20
bodyguard. The word. but also that
17:22
when he cheated on Kendrick with body with
17:24
Adam could it also be the day three
17:26
angle that he was. Like a
17:28
freeze I've seen I tentatively bodyguard but with
17:30
someone in his crew of yeah I agree
17:32
we should save this for family matters. The
17:35
as so. We're. Not going to spend
17:37
a lot of them was guys want to
17:39
buy. I don't want to spend much more
17:41
than we have to on tailor made freestyle.
17:43
Saw her a April twenty fourth eleven days
17:45
after pushups. We. The tailor made
17:47
freestyle everyone knows. he uses a
17:49
I to imitate to Park and
17:52
Snoop and then has a third
17:54
verse as himself, essentially taunting Kendrick.
17:56
Because. He hasn't responded, has been
17:58
eleven days and. This is the
18:00
his hip hop legends that. West
18:03
goes legends that you know we
18:05
know Kendrick admirers to taught him.
18:08
It was gross and didn't work. or
18:10
it was gross. It was another miscalculation
18:12
and I do think the only thing
18:14
I have to say about this. I
18:16
remember people cheering on Drake like oh
18:18
no Drake played at least my time.
18:21
I was like this is hilarious, Strike
18:23
is doing nothing and I'm just like
18:25
guys if trait has to do a
18:27
i to pop vocals to. Kneel,
18:30
Act Hendrix once again, he was
18:32
waiting for center to drop. And.
18:35
I was like maybe cities have been
18:37
in the studio making some better songs.
18:39
President Wants Against was on the backfoot
18:41
what's what's cats are came outside got
18:43
to a point where like or tennis
18:45
or doc stop stop stop that's good
18:47
my is dead so tailor made is
18:49
probably was my first inclination where my.
18:52
I don't think Drake is funny
18:54
enough to win. This beef and
18:56
I don't actually know, is respecting
18:58
Kendrick. Are not
19:01
as an opponent, they're really just
19:03
play it cool. I
19:05
thought that if you had told me like
19:07
five years ago that rate is something like
19:09
this, I would have been like oh, that
19:11
sounds like that might have been funny, but
19:13
to watch it play out in real time
19:15
and in practice was really pathetic. Like I.
19:18
It's the only thing I got out of
19:20
this was. Oh. Drake
19:23
is nervous. Like. Drake is
19:25
it just came across as so
19:27
when secure. He didn't need to
19:30
drop the song. Is in
19:32
our argue that maybe he was trying to be
19:34
Kendrick into responding? But. Anna.
19:36
Had an early work out from. Yeah. Retrospect,
19:39
it seems to me like an
19:41
objective failure, especially considering the fact
19:43
that couple days later two bucks
19:45
a state, right a pretty scathing
19:47
letter and forces him to take
19:49
it down. He does deleted from
19:52
his Id, which to me is
19:54
just an automatic loss. I'm. So.
19:57
Strategically not the best miss any.
20:00
Any kind of lawyers have to tell
20:02
you to take down your distract. you're
20:04
probably not doing well. Yeah city as
20:06
the same shortsighted. Fast
20:09
forward to April Thirtieth, About
20:11
six days after Tailor Made
20:13
and seventeen days after pushups,
20:15
we get Kendrick Lamar's first
20:18
official response in euphoria. This
20:20
is a six minute three
20:22
part. Dismantling
20:24
of Drakes personal character
20:27
of. The. Set their
20:29
guess the central angles he takes
20:31
a centrally. using this motif of
20:33
drake been an actor, a fraud,
20:37
He undermines has blackness. He.
20:40
Undermines. Illegitimacy of Canada Imitating
20:42
American music and culture. He
20:46
predicts that Drake will fabricate stories
20:48
about his life and his next
20:50
response. And also
20:52
makes it pretty clear that. Centric.
20:54
Is willing to. Keep things
20:57
friendly and personal, but warns that
20:59
if you talk about my family
21:01
specifically. We're going to another level.
21:04
So. I'll ask you the same question just
21:06
and start with the this time. When.
21:08
You think about euphoria then Now.
21:11
As a song, what are your thoughts
21:14
draw My thoughts As a listener. As
21:16
a person who plays music, coverage at
21:18
the. At. The Ringer
21:20
because my seriously atlas do bliss do
21:22
both of you don't mind because that's gonna
21:24
be my take is I'm going to give
21:27
you my take as a fan and as
21:29
someone that's trying to stay objective so well
21:31
I mean and knives or by the objectivity
21:33
but just from miscible perspective of I know
21:36
The second he responded. I
21:38
knew that this meant that Drake was
21:40
going to respond A So I knew
21:42
that the second this song dropped, we
21:44
were on the clock and. I
21:47
kind of had a feeling that things were
21:49
going to head to where they had padded
21:51
this weekend. where they went this weekend. Vessel
21:53
drops very early in the morning on the
21:55
west coast. It dropped at like eight am
21:58
at first so I wasn't exactly sure how
22:00
felt about it. I didn't love the be
22:02
ah I'm I was front of a sin
22:04
on some bus and laptop speakers on a
22:06
on a Mac book that if anybody from
22:08
spotify I t's listening I need a new
22:10
one so I'm just just holler you find
22:13
me on slack arm. But.
22:16
When I finally got around to Was Intuit later that
22:18
afternoon, I was like. Oh. Sees.
22:21
Got something here. I'm this
22:23
is not a career ender.
22:25
This is Not. The.
22:27
End of this this is not he with
22:29
this is not going and this beef this
22:32
is not is this is a key to
22:34
get but this is a really good disarm
22:36
and I'll I'll just say this ah I'm
22:38
a do a little plug because some of
22:40
your listeners I'm might not visit theringer.com on
22:42
Tuesday that is. This part is going up
22:45
with putting up a massive distract ranking. Of
22:47
a all the distracts, all the
22:49
great distraction rap history and I
22:51
hadn't that like. Numbers.
22:54
Thirty. Three Thirty Four I'm like,
22:56
is that good but it's not like
22:59
the knockout blow is not what. I
23:03
thought was going to win
23:05
this decisively for Kendrick, but.
23:08
I. Don't know. There. Was something
23:10
about the pure hatred as the
23:12
he exposed in this. V
23:14
I hate the way that you
23:16
walk the we the you toss away
23:19
the express. That. Is
23:22
an energy. That you
23:24
don't see. Ever coming out
23:26
of Drake. They i didn't know we
23:28
we get outta Kendrick. Ah. It.
23:31
Probably should have been a sign of we're we're
23:33
heading this weekend, but. I
23:35
don't know, I think it's some. A
23:38
great distract that ah.
23:40
Is probably also going to be kind of
23:42
loss after what happened last two days. Charles.
23:45
Anything find it went like years
23:47
of the gets upgraded. Euphoria
23:49
is a good it. Does. Song.
23:53
But. I felt that with processing
23:55
euphoria, it's still felt like both
23:57
of these guys had their finger
23:59
over. The. Nuclear codes
24:01
and neither one is suppress it first. Yeah
24:04
where I was. Just like I give you
24:06
for ya up more credit because I'd never
24:08
thought I'd see this played. Tennis.
24:11
Attitude might nasa be more fun. Even
24:13
Drake like. I still hear
24:15
people say is it's a brave
24:17
like it's is so. I
24:20
think you could tell kind of what
24:22
off. Center. Is cut from
24:24
were like he loves battle rap
24:27
he what like steer the thing
24:29
we know what they describe looks
24:31
like and still center of ending
24:33
I'd read our water use a
24:35
nigger no more like it's. It's
24:38
so does what he says the sexes and
24:40
I think that would you for he was
24:42
the for me where I was at his
24:44
got a maid and then i've got a
24:47
haircut and like my barber and i were
24:49
like is not doing that my sport we
24:51
like license plate one more time to see
24:54
as he pleases and I have ago. Actually,
24:57
this is a lot more effective but longer
24:59
I was into his. I think that's the
25:01
one thing I'll say when I finally got
25:03
around to listen to it like later that
25:05
day when it dropped on spotify. I
25:08
buy hurt and headphones and I finally
25:10
got a chancellor sit within. It was
25:12
intuit a couple times a hit. so
25:14
much harder. It out And I'll
25:16
just say that I think this is a
25:18
perfect example of the difference between Kendrick and
25:20
Drake. Right where a song like Pushups gonna
25:22
get. On. One or two listens
25:25
and. Me: As a
25:27
kendrick fan and having studied his
25:29
music. A pretty extensively
25:31
in the past seven years. You.
25:34
Know these are obvious, his music offers
25:36
layers and it's in in my opinion
25:38
gets better with each illicit I actually
25:40
thought had similar thoughts on initial impression.
25:43
Just. The first listen of like. Not.
25:46
Actually sure what I felt about it but
25:48
the more and more listen to it and
25:50
especially after doing a line by line to
25:52
section of at last week. Just as a
25:54
Kendrick fan I'll say at this point in
25:56
the beef like I was so happy to
25:58
get a six minute song. Kendrick
26:00
Lamar you if you forget. From.
26:02
It from eight hundred spanned perspective
26:04
getting music from him his few
26:07
and far between said a get
26:09
regardless if he's going at Drake
26:11
the whole song to seek to
26:13
get a six minute three part
26:15
lyrical and ah delivery. Display.
26:18
Like this and this epic fashion
26:20
as a fan hours I was
26:22
very much quenched and just happy
26:24
to have a new Kendrick Lamar
26:26
song. Strategically, I agree with both.
26:28
He had the it's it's as
26:30
felt like jabs at felt like.
26:33
I'm. Going to get personal. And
26:36
spots. But. For the most
26:38
part, I'm just attacking your character. This
26:41
is all fair game. In a battle
26:43
like this, it's pretty standard stuff. Didn't
26:45
get too personal with family or revealing
26:47
any kind of details. Didn't
26:50
really have allude to a i mean
26:52
he alluded to the some of the
26:54
grooming allegations but this and very subtle
26:56
ways never outright saying it already like
26:58
the Euphoria title or i talked about
27:00
lot that if you listen to that
27:02
the second part this episode or talk
27:04
about a lot but it's never. It's
27:06
not like not like us were says
27:08
outright. Making claims
27:10
and so. To me strategically
27:13
and and he does very much and
27:15
very transparently warned. At the very end
27:17
of the song, I'm drawing a line
27:19
in the sand and that line is
27:21
my family. And if you talk about
27:23
my family, were taking this to a
27:25
dark place. But. I'm happy to
27:27
keep this of for a friendly
27:29
spar. He says up pretty directly.
27:32
And. So just from a strategy in terms
27:34
in terms of. This. Thing
27:36
pushing forward. There. Was
27:38
a line in the sand drawn which unless
27:40
you guys have anything else on euphoria I
27:43
have. I have one more thought that. One
27:46
of the things about this battle to
27:49
me is the first major major major.
27:52
Rap. Battle in. The.
27:54
Stan error rate is
27:56
so. Obviously like there
27:58
are people who is easy. Here's the
28:00
people who are not fans Are people who
28:02
to pass answer people. Big fans and lights
28:05
there. Wasn't. Anything.
28:07
You could do to move some of those
28:09
people off of. What?
28:12
They believed but we're so firmly entrenched
28:14
in that right now were just people
28:16
fight on social media further for their
28:18
artist that they stand for and. I
28:21
think to this point in the battle. It.
28:24
Felt like we were never going to get a
28:26
true winner. Because. Everybody
28:28
went in with their mind made up on
28:30
either they are Drake san or a Kendrick
28:33
fan or possibly not even a Kendrick fan,
28:35
but just a massive Drake haters. Didn't seem
28:37
like you're a lot of Kendrick haters out
28:39
there, right? Don't seem like there was anybody
28:41
just raw thing at the opportunity to to
28:43
jump on Kendrick with the certainly was with
28:46
traits I'm. In I think. After
28:48
euphoria, I was kind of left in a
28:50
place of like. This is gonna
28:52
go on forever because. Nobody's ever
28:54
going to move authors now. My guy won.
28:57
the oh this guy walked right it. just
28:59
like. Euphoria. Was very good
29:01
enough for a couple. This is it. was
29:03
clearly better than pushups. But it
29:05
didn't feel like anything was going to be ever
29:07
to move the needle and I think that's a
29:09
transition to. Where we
29:11
went next year and quickly forget they're
29:14
just so you. You have push ups
29:16
Are you have euphoria over pushups at
29:18
this point. If you're wondering,
29:21
Absolutely a party is a better record to
29:23
push. Guess not is by much to me
29:25
but it is. There is a gap the
29:28
out this is. It also has the ether
29:30
effect for me where it when I first
29:32
started on like this be is awful in
29:35
the by to buy like the third or
29:37
fourth listen online as he has been kind
29:39
of hard does exactly those bikes foods of
29:41
all right guys let's not have I have
29:44
one. Let's not lossy are a please. Okay,
29:50
Now we are the morning. Of May. Third,
29:52
We. Are three days after euphoria. This
29:55
is Friday morning. Hundred
29:57
shops and Instagram only track.
30:00
Six Sixteen and L A. There's.
30:02
A bunch of. Conspiracy theories about
30:04
what that those numbers mean. That's not.i'm
30:06
not doing that in this episode. Maybe
30:08
maybe it'll in a later date, but
30:11
this was a strict this to me
30:13
was the response to Tailor Made. Enter
30:15
in terms of Function is essentially Kendrick
30:17
taunting Drake a little bit and the
30:19
big reveal here is that he plants.
30:22
He. He plants the see that. He
30:24
has a contact or to. inside
30:26
of of he has kept that is
30:28
giving him information. And
30:31
a photograph that we now. Know.
30:34
Well we'll talk about the photograph a let a
30:36
little bit later, but that was the main just
30:38
it was just a little a little taunt, a
30:40
little jab. I don't know how much you guys
30:43
want to talk about it, but ah a kind
30:45
of. Dissipates. After what?
30:47
what happens in the evening at the same day?
30:49
But. Just in Usa some
30:51
and. I basically
30:53
forget the song exists them. Yeah.
30:56
It's it's like Taylor. the only reason
30:58
we remember Tailor Made is because of
31:01
the A I shenanigans and I see
31:03
of this song is like in similar
31:05
ways where we got our starting to
31:07
get annoyed at this point where I'm
31:09
like you guys are so afraid of
31:11
either going for it was like who's
31:13
going to address exactly yeah you know
31:16
and I'll write it wasn't until I
31:18
think to nice desert director that drop
31:20
later that night. Wow that's fucking final.
31:22
Somebody fire pulled the trigger fucking first.
31:25
Yeah, so we. Are now the evening I'm
31:27
a third and Drakes Drops Family Matter.
31:30
This is a seven a half minute
31:32
song with a video which I thought
31:34
was kind of a twist for me.
31:36
At least I wasn't expecting someone to
31:39
have a video. None a seven a
31:41
half minute video. Nonetheless, it's a three
31:43
part. Song. Disliked euphoria in
31:45
the video he destroys a replica
31:47
van of the kids had said
31:49
good kid med city van ah
31:52
he wants for else jewelry the
31:54
floods to parks ring to eat
31:56
at New Hope King Chinese Restaurant
31:58
Toronto. They claims
32:00
ah or that he accuses
32:02
Kendrick as physically assaulting his
32:05
partner and claims that day
32:07
free contracts. Very good friend
32:09
and close collaborator or and
32:11
cofounder of Pg Length. Is.
32:13
The father or might be the father of
32:15
one of his children. He
32:18
take shots at Rocky Weekend, Ross
32:20
and Frail. And
32:23
importantly I would say just in terms of
32:25
tracking this more. Connection that
32:27
he does not make any mention of.
32:30
Planting. Any kind of seeds
32:32
of misinformation and kendrick camp. In.
32:35
The song. So. Charles,
32:38
What was your impression? Of
32:40
family Matters On the night he came out. I
32:44
was already so exhausted. I was like
32:46
this sox. As. That
32:49
eyes watery eyes I chose. You
32:51
are a comedy club where taxi
32:53
you about yours Hydrant below. Average
32:57
Joe Jackson's dropped it on my own of
32:59
god and then it was very we would
33:01
have our regular job as a drop out.
33:03
My sister has literally guys in our car
33:05
and I play both it I was like.
33:08
Robbers diagnosis it. You have a date with you.
33:10
You have to play the. Know.
33:12
I did not look out to her ex
33:15
wife is there was there was it's hours
33:17
like am I gonna look like a herb
33:19
if I just put my like my earbuds
33:21
in right now So I thought after. I've
33:24
just i'm just i'm just laughing their their if somebody's
33:26
having to be on a date and be like ago
33:28
listen to meet the grants for work. So
33:32
we're the same. This.
33:34
Our family matters is going on Me, it'll well.
33:37
I like. If. Kendrick
33:39
had we did. A. D
33:41
not step on it thirty minutes
33:43
later. I think family matters would
33:46
have been of really decisive blow
33:48
because of what Drake is alleging.
33:50
Ease. Very.
33:52
Just like it is a bomb and I think.
33:56
You guys were sending me like some the lyrics
33:58
and whatever. I'm like how. Kendrick,
34:00
Come back from this. I
34:04
honestly think there was a couple things where he
34:06
fucked up the songs to on. I don't know
34:08
why both of them keep doing this and his
34:10
death but I'm I can bring a four minute
34:12
songs were i'll be song seven or eight minutes.
34:15
While they all have sweated it's which is it
34:17
does seem like at least at this point. I
34:20
target up a feeling were a lot
34:22
of these be switches bees or not
34:24
the same song or they were like
34:26
searching for that energy as is a
34:28
guy says pick one and I think
34:30
direct probably when that was that bad
34:32
if he would split in half. Said
34:34
had separate to respond to be programs
34:36
with. but I think that this is
34:38
my easily. The best
34:41
trick response of this whole
34:43
entire thing of it just
34:45
unfortunately. Got. Stepped on. Also,
34:48
it's not great that once again.
34:51
Drake. Those way harder on of
34:53
rockies. Very those
34:55
I Target dog a focus for.
34:57
Like the city says about Rothys
34:59
is just. It's said. It
35:03
is the city so got rocky
35:05
is amazing idea I cannot rocky
35:08
in touch sit again is so
35:10
fucking good but also and this
35:12
is starting August get it's a
35:14
robot avast so am i gonna
35:16
write off so for i was
35:18
like ours I saw this is
35:21
send this to pull. Off
35:25
a good line with a good Iraq
35:27
or Syria discipline. Has semi
35:30
matters is a really good this record
35:32
i think that is a had air
35:34
to breathe reburied like if Kendrick had
35:36
not brought the we had a weekend
35:38
to talk about this did with this
35:40
the entire complicit of as bad a
35:42
would be different This stuff he seeing
35:44
in there is like not just about.
35:47
The. Day free stuff and I good book
35:49
I think. The. A we
35:52
always have to be careful when were like talking
35:54
about things and friends were wrapped food and they
35:56
get like with a certain what is very ugly
35:58
things like the of domestic abuse and. Like an
36:00
eye on the and want to talk about the
36:02
Queen's i don't want to be my god she
36:04
got him goodbye device the of like it's it
36:06
gets really ugly really quickly. but there is also.
36:09
Some. Piercing.
36:11
Of the Kendrick Lamar.
36:14
Persona in some ways that.
36:17
I'd everything Drake was capable of are
36:19
like quite frankly, headlights, the ability to
36:21
try to do in. Maybe he didn't
36:23
but you know, kind of talking about
36:26
trying to turn the tables on Kendrick
36:28
and talk about. As. You're the
36:30
one that courts approval from the white
36:32
audience. Or you're the one who actually
36:34
a struggling with your racial identity because
36:36
this is self that Kendrick has obviously
36:38
used against Drake that a lot of
36:40
people have used against Rate in the
36:42
him a Do That. I
36:45
saw was. Looks
36:47
not my place to say whether it landed or not. But.
36:51
There. Was something about it. They're saying some. Okay
36:54
to break is doing something that I would
36:56
go. New place. I wasn't expecting him to
36:58
go to an. The
37:00
terms of this. Battle.
37:03
Have sees in. There's a. Good.
37:06
Site Drake could actually do some
37:08
legitimate damage to Kendrick career. Stats.
37:11
I felt in the moment. Yeah I it.
37:14
Well. Yeah, I didn't I I
37:16
was like ten minutes late to.
37:18
Watching. Family Matters after dropped and so
37:21
by the time that I finish that
37:23
literally Kendrick dropped as soon as I
37:25
finished watching, so had no time or
37:27
process in the moment. As.
37:30
It as his own piece without the
37:32
counter, right? But. I
37:34
can imagine exactly what you're saying. Just and
37:36
this does does feel like it could have
37:39
been a a huge bomb if there wasn't
37:41
a counter. I. Think.
37:44
Were and I'm just I agree with
37:46
everything you have he has upset about
37:48
it so I'll just add. That.
37:50
What will our onto your point trials and
37:53
that is too long and he. I.
37:56
Mean this is my by showing but I he's not
37:58
as as. Euphoria. The
38:00
flow and it has it's very
38:02
clearly set up and these structures
38:04
the intensity increases throughout the entire
38:07
thing. I could very well planned.
38:09
Six minutes Sought three p Somewheres.
38:12
Family Matters feels like a collage Songs He
38:14
had that kind of the splice together and
38:16
so you don't get that a cumulative effect
38:18
that I think Euphoria has by the end
38:20
of the song. where you like Jesus Christ?
38:22
like. And says is getting more and
38:24
more intense and and then he says can I bleed and
38:27
can I bleed him and that's when he really starts going
38:29
and it's always five minutes into the it's five minutes of
38:31
the song and that's when you get the real of this
38:33
race and. So. Do
38:35
you guys think that? Family matters.
38:38
Was. Any thought alluded to this trials, but.
38:41
City of Just went right at Kendrick were
38:43
those shots at Rocky? As good as they
38:45
were Weekend Ross that whole middle section, the
38:47
sandwich you and argues that actually musically I
38:49
think the much the best and most affected
38:51
part of the saw that didn't have any.
38:54
Aims at Drake. read: sorry I
38:56
kendrick. Did. It did the
38:58
structure of it. Did you try to copy too much?
39:01
And. Again taking this twenty with the
39:03
one approach or city of just. Ignored.
39:07
That the Rocky Weekend cetera part of
39:09
this and just went straight at Kendrick
39:11
Charles. When you think about that I
39:13
think honestly weird Drake slipped up not
39:15
just in the planning of it but
39:17
just the art of the is that
39:19
I think Family Net matters and narratively
39:21
and such earliest week where it's like
39:23
say which will I do think the
39:25
quality of tens of records like peaked
39:27
in depth not all of them are
39:29
great but keeps coming back to similar
39:32
point for Joe. Don't
39:34
tell lies about me, I won't tell
39:36
notice about you. Your master manipulator, your
39:38
not real. Everything that you've built up
39:40
in your life is fucking wise like
39:42
it's even if I necessarily gets me.
39:45
Don't think the off take to city
39:47
battle is that interesting to me. Kendrick
39:49
in each record keeps going. For.
39:51
A key or fake ass after everything
39:53
that's built up is a lie and
39:56
I'm going to. So this I'm going
39:58
to prove. This strikes narrative thrust. Don't.
40:00
Even there's no spine to wait for
40:03
our it's just like won't interrupt your
40:05
sore and then went that doesn't work
40:07
he likes but also your fucking label
40:09
deal is fucked up and also asked
40:11
him secret about a white and then
40:13
he reveals the white thing in the
40:15
deeper. Any just he's like searching for
40:17
that blow right? Seems like Hendrick was
40:19
a lot more. succeeded in because the
40:21
only us to focus on one person
40:23
sees like. Mr. Grams
40:25
is not euphoria. It's not like
40:27
us is not like. that's when
40:30
I listen to them all in
40:32
chronological order like identical bit like
40:34
says something similar stuff at even
40:36
Would is revealing new stuff always
40:38
circles back to the baby sister
40:40
a master manipulator I'd probably proving
40:42
it's with smith. I
40:44
think goes to show you that well as
40:46
like break as an artist better just in
40:48
terms of the totality of the arts as
40:50
eccentric was way more set up. To.
40:53
As a storyteller to kind of
40:55
like apart as right slowly and
40:57
concentrate in a way that. Stretches.
41:00
Didn't have a concentration. A
41:03
do want to push back on one part.
41:05
Ah you said the second part was the
41:07
most effective. I actually think the third part
41:09
is is. Setting
41:11
the accusations aside,
41:14
Is is also the most effective part because
41:17
it as a highly switch rate does really
41:19
well. Where. I have as he
41:21
had the melody to that song to the
41:23
the Ig that sing songs love the sinner
41:25
minute in an area didn't editor the I've
41:27
had that stuck in my has since even
41:29
though like. So many other things
41:31
have surpassed this in the beach since so
41:33
many other things feel so much more relevant.
41:36
There is a better song that was dropped
41:38
after this which we can discuss very shortly.
41:40
That is the thing that has been stuck
41:42
in my head and I really think. That's
41:45
the back to back playbook. as much as like
41:47
dropping the songs back to back with like you
41:49
know, He turned,
41:51
drake turned, A disarm
41:54
into a nursery song with back to back
41:56
any. Did it again here to the point
41:58
where he got it like nursery rhyme. Got
42:00
it is been stuck in my head and.
42:04
I. Mean, I love the second part of you are people
42:06
say they like the first part. I actually don't care for
42:08
the first part. Feels like solar to miss. Do you down
42:10
to the song would have hit harder is. Soft.
42:13
The first part off and it's just like one
42:15
beats weights and a lot shorter sneer because that,
42:17
that's me. It feels like if he does that
42:19
because he references Kendrick very briefly at the beginning
42:22
of the second part. In that, to me, if
42:24
he chops off the first part in south South
42:26
the day free stuff which everyone has been like,
42:28
you know it's been funny seeing people come out
42:30
and be like. Dave Free is one
42:33
of the nicest. May never met your
42:35
would you are you are issues asshole
42:37
for doing this. what are you talking
42:39
about as that's the only thing I've
42:41
seen about that sets to death that
42:43
outta here. I'm. The. I don't
42:45
care how Qb thought you'd be with the Pg
42:47
stuff which is get that out here arm. If
42:51
he does the second part in the
42:53
third parties by themselves. Then.
42:55
It feels like. The.
42:58
Song is building towards something because it starts with
43:00
a brief mention of Kendrick that he just gets
43:02
all these other people out of the way and
43:04
I said he zeros And on Kendrick is that
43:06
I see feals effective. I do want to see
43:08
one part about the second part of the Sound
43:10
of. The for the melody and
43:12
third part is the stuck in my head I
43:14
think there's some really effect stuff he says but
43:17
Kendrick in a normal beef but this has been
43:19
up in a normal beep at all. The rocky
43:21
self is fantastic. I'm. The.
43:24
Other thing I will take away from that song is.
43:27
Dot future must be the coolest button guys
43:29
ever lived around me as a good point
43:31
does a good point he sees basically like
43:33
the the his take away a few to
43:35
there is like man. This. Really
43:37
sucks man. Metro Metro has to
43:39
be making you act like this,
43:41
right? Because we're cool, right? Like
43:43
this is Not. Use
43:46
are literally just threw the grenade and walked
43:48
away and no one has like price themselves.
43:50
These is by no rational the why should
43:52
I. Do
43:54
I say fuses? Ever heard the word massage? Any. Ah,
43:58
now I did. You for that are long time
44:00
yeah but I'm not part of his worldview really
44:02
quick. I do have to not to get too
44:04
dark. Do. Think it is a little
44:06
messed up, like if I'm in drugs camp. it's
44:08
like. It's why it's
44:10
It was clear early on like
44:13
the tide has turned culturally against
44:15
Drink so much where it's like
44:17
greatest leveling the very very serious
44:19
accusations and are against Kendrick and
44:21
like even if these are true.
44:24
I was just like, would that
44:26
pierce the veil of. Tens.
44:28
Or comes like idol actually we
44:31
seen historically. That's it. does. not
44:33
really dense. The popularity of
44:35
these artists were it's like with Kendrick.
44:38
I don't want to say it's. Both
44:40
of these strategies are buried deprived dark,
44:42
yes, like. Hendrick
44:45
being like hey you as a bunch
44:47
of petals in your circle, answer a
44:49
groomer and slate you run around with
44:51
underage girls. I think that there are
44:53
way many more people. Score! Like we
44:56
could go back Through the lyrics, we
44:58
seem like we have all the sea
45:00
of the sea sauce of sit, whatever,
45:03
Twenty. Six: How To run Without wet? How
45:05
true? Any of what he as whatever. But.
45:08
Woods Right Them which is running with a
45:10
line that. How many
45:12
people involved? How many people will actually
45:14
stop supporting? The
45:17
I've got to piggyback on what you said
45:20
just that I don't. We just ignore the
45:22
day free part of this. I don't think
45:24
any what. I don't think that landed culturally
45:26
and I was young when would care nazarene
45:28
right? So the abuse allegations I think. I
45:31
mean. When. You think about it too hard.
45:33
This is all just fucked right? So the me to say
45:35
that? I think
45:37
the play strategically was that Kendrick
45:39
has built himself up as this
45:41
holier than thou artist who kind
45:43
of. Lectures.
45:46
To his audience. And has
45:48
built himself. Up
45:51
as this superior character and then
45:53
revealing that he might have done
45:55
this is a sink in that
45:57
he could been discredit. That
45:59
four per. The owner in the same way that dread
46:01
that Kendrick is trying to do the same thing to
46:03
Drake. Whether. I.
46:06
Mean without. I mean
46:08
just a neat on the phone use the
46:10
talked about like the possibility of like a
46:12
photograph or something traffic coming out. I think
46:14
that's really the only. Kind. Of
46:17
Bomb. That. Would. Solidify.
46:20
Any kind of career. Risk
46:22
right? Like it. Were
46:24
to talk about the allegations of the pride on a
46:26
bit more in terms of like. No.
46:28
One's believing anything at this point. And
46:31
so. On either side, I don't
46:33
think there's not. There's just no proof for
46:35
anything. And so. Is
46:37
dark as it's gotten. It's just it's just
46:40
a rumor at this point and so it's
46:42
hard to know even what to do with
46:44
it or even know what to talk about
46:46
it from another. and even gross that this
46:48
is how work quote unquote learning about it
46:50
because I'm just like in multiple songs you
46:53
keep it again or like they're real people
46:55
involved here that are ya Kendrick or Drake.
46:57
So I also think that was when I
46:59
even when Mr. Graham drops. That was when
47:01
I started sensing the exhaustion of people being
47:04
like. This. Is done so
47:06
gross. And because there's no acts there's
47:08
no reporting on there's there's nothing out
47:10
here. This is kind of seems like
47:12
to egomaniacs throwing of anything at the
47:15
that the wall to seeing what damage
47:17
sticks with was like say i felt
47:19
the with this it would meet the
47:21
brethren like maybe we should just and
47:23
if you guys yeah let's list as
47:26
get into me to grants his I
47:28
think that's where we do need to
47:30
go next. So twenty minutes after family
47:32
matters drops of course Kendrick Hazard and
47:34
immediate counter. Me: The Grams: Six
47:36
and a half minute song over one
47:38
Alchemists Be. A Fucking
47:41
Uribe were. Essentially.
47:44
Kendrick. Talk directly to drink
47:46
son, mother, father a legit daughter
47:48
and dragged himself. The big kind
47:50
of Bombs Quote Unquote that there
47:53
were supposed to be the bombs.
47:55
Here we're. In.
47:57
An implication of some kind of sex
47:59
trafficking. Happening within over
48:01
yell and. The. Big
48:03
claim I think are the very direct claim
48:06
was that Drake is hiding another child and
48:08
eleven year old daughter. I'll
48:11
just tell you my experience of this. I.
48:13
Heard this. And wanted to go
48:15
to bed. I. I
48:18
I tweeted out that I was
48:21
tapping our the beef. I texted
48:23
you guys that this has transcended
48:25
music and double entendre as and
48:28
I am not very interested in
48:30
and. Doing. Anything with this
48:32
on either side, it was. Is
48:35
still is. I can't listen to Meet the
48:37
Grams is. Just really
48:40
dark that. In terms of the
48:42
timeline this moment for me was really dark.
48:44
I didn't like for things could be headed.
48:46
Ah, This was scared the hose music like
48:49
I was one of the hose and I was like
48:51
literally white. Sand. The
48:53
hose web host the hose run a
48:55
bunker the hose were hiding say was
48:57
even when it drops people like oh
48:59
no like. Let's be clear. This.
49:01
Neutralized. Yeah,
49:03
Ah, breaks record immediately that it was
49:05
a master stroke of genius yeah, but
49:08
I did get out much strolling through
49:10
the timeline and that was the point
49:12
in the party where everyone was light.
49:15
I think we should guys are getting it's about
49:17
to get sad to see you got what we
49:19
even though the the reference that I was going
49:21
to make you guys ever seen Boogie Nights? South.
49:24
Korea. You know how it's like the
49:27
last night of the eighties. Go is
49:29
seventy nine going to eighty on New
49:31
Year's eve and will you may may
49:33
see ends up after discovering his wife
49:35
is have it's twelve not discovery. After
49:37
getting sick of his wife. Cheating
49:40
on him. His advice the start of
49:42
it at the end and it's and he
49:44
goes and he gets the gun from his
49:46
car and that blow his brains out and
49:49
just a as midnight hits it is just
49:51
like us oh this parties got in very
49:53
dark it going to continue to be dark
49:55
and that was kind of the five that
49:57
was hanging over this beef at that moment.
50:00
I. Felt
50:02
kind of rose and I had another
50:04
friend and another group chat text me
50:06
as lights I think Kendrick might have
50:08
worn and others like. One what
50:10
if the day if it was the
50:12
victory, was it worth it? I mean,
50:14
there's a thing it wasn't too cold
50:16
here, But unlike. I think
50:19
it was kind of beneath Kendrick a little bit. not
50:21
the clutch, my pearls, but I was like this: Local.
50:24
Meta. Grams is a great this song.
50:27
It's a point of it. This song
50:29
is to dismantle your opponent and to
50:31
just be pure evil. He.
50:33
Accomplished that's as a song that
50:35
I want to listen to how
50:37
such centrist is was better artist
50:39
than this but also this was
50:41
the first time. Like. Said
50:43
some wow that path and all says
50:46
it's yeah our detrick like work like
50:48
relax bro thought it'll be costs us
50:50
I was on the phone with one
50:52
of you yesterday I put it on
50:54
because I'm like ahead of was into
50:57
this Friday nights of the Sunday morning
50:59
and I put it on and I'm
51:01
walking around with to and on a
51:03
beautiful Sunday morning in Los Angeles and.
51:06
One of you called me. And.
51:09
We're on the phone for while and I
51:11
forgot that I was listening to it and
51:13
then we hung up and I the song
51:15
just came back on. The second phone call
51:17
ended and it was like honestly one of
51:20
the more jarring hurt because I love talking
51:22
to both of you so. That
51:25
says that with no warning.
51:27
was getting that. That was
51:29
my serious before. That was
51:31
so jarring and it just
51:33
felt so. Oppressively.
51:36
Dark. Young. This.
51:39
But. As strategy.
51:42
Mars. Or we would be proud. Machiavelli
51:44
would be proud because no one was
51:46
thinking about family matters. It was. To.
51:49
Me at this point. It. Felt
51:51
like. Either.
51:54
This is mutually assured destruction.
51:56
Or. This. Is the moment where Drake
51:59
is going to real? If. I.
52:01
Am dealing with the sick bad guy
52:03
who the I cannot go up against.
52:07
But I this point I still wasn't like okay
52:09
this beef as a winner on like the public
52:11
sentiment is is kind of with kendrick of people
52:13
don't like Drake I like it as both of
52:15
them lost the what's that dropped out like to
52:17
both you was a slayer like it's go of
52:19
as it has a Kendrick fan. I was. Us.
52:23
Logged on Wednesday. Disappointed, I was just
52:25
surprised that he would. He
52:27
would do this to be honest. If.
52:30
Our to be forced to claim a winner
52:32
at that point. Out give it to Kendrick
52:35
just for pure strategy alone. I think at
52:37
that point in the beef. He
52:40
out strategize Drake and it did feel like
52:42
the consensus was like this got dark but
52:44
if we're going to crowd someone a winner,
52:46
it's Kendrick. But. Is that
52:48
again is that? Are you? What do
52:50
you winning at that point when it's
52:52
things have turned so disgusting and allegations
52:54
if when you really think about them
52:57
are are just atrocious or and sickening.
52:59
To. But ago ago and not
53:02
are sorry that I than so.
53:05
This is what I think strategy
53:08
wise actually. Trump's even
53:10
the strategy of meet the grams
53:12
and. It is the next
53:14
day may fourth of for fifty
53:16
two pm. That. Afternoon We
53:18
are now Saturday right? Not
53:20
like us drops Dj Mustard
53:22
be. Terms of the
53:25
claims. Ah it it. Hits.
53:27
The pedophile angle directly were.
53:30
It was alluded to in the
53:33
tracks leading to this point. This
53:35
is the main angle he responds
53:37
to. Drake claims in family Matters
53:39
very briefly and just says Drake,
53:41
the Audience is not slow. We
53:43
see that you're just trying to
53:45
shape a narrative. We're not buying
53:47
it. Let's dance and. P.
53:50
Response directly to Drakes line about Kendrick
53:53
wrapping like he's about to get the
53:55
flames free. He does this. Whole
53:57
fourth verse about Atlanta are listen and
54:00
punches. With this I think a pretty
54:02
effective. You're not a ah what did
54:04
you say? You're not a colleague. You're
54:07
still. You're not a college town either.
54:09
Thank you Charles! Will
54:12
his to having five more decides.
54:15
At. In the clip. And. I
54:17
think it has some of the most memorable lines from the
54:19
entire beef. And. Terms of
54:22
strategy I would say just as a
54:24
fan. Ah, I'm witnessing
54:26
this. this entire thing. Seeking.
54:28
Out. This. Was a much needed.
54:31
Just. A pallet cleanser, I.
54:33
For break the five I started my are
54:36
you the West was won that day Like
54:38
it it is app read it was using
54:40
it got dark that they evidently the Dj
54:42
just turned to Saddam era artifacts as part.
54:47
Of our one of my setup are pedophiles. Just
54:52
a what were your initial thoughts on this on. Different
54:56
from to the lines that that Charles
54:58
was is wrapping undies. I can't help
55:00
but think that one of the most
55:02
damning things that na. Said about Jay and
55:04
eat there was. A
55:06
soup your ass you thirty six in
55:08
karate class and now we're like yeah
55:11
but you know he really had on
55:13
the pedophilia angles on a motorcycle recess
55:15
facility have this did the degree burns
55:17
coming days but are so different here.
55:19
Yeah I was going to say recent
55:21
acknowledges some point that the city just
55:23
upset a new bar that. Laura.
55:26
Guess lowered the bar or whatever you want
55:28
to call it. The I think the shadow
55:30
of pretty and story about it on has
55:32
loomed large over the speed where. This.
55:35
Is the ah? this is where we're
55:37
at now. But Jessica didn't so. It.
55:40
Was the vibes where back immediately?
55:42
Like we said, I also. It.
55:45
Actually, Charles pointed this out to me. how
55:47
do you know he was actually discussed as
55:49
he can but he mentioned this to me.
55:51
We're. One of the. Actual
55:54
brilliant things about meet the Grandson.
55:56
Hindsight. Was. It
55:58
did all the heavy lifting. All
56:00
the. All. The.
56:03
God. All the really nasty things
56:05
that are Kendrick is accusing Draco. so
56:07
that way when he calls straight freaky
56:09
are not like us. We already know
56:11
the backstory like we already have. We
56:13
already have the lore Isabel back. Ray
56:16
is not something he has a set
56:18
up here. You know it's I'm It
56:20
is kind of clears out of the
56:22
way. First of all I can also
56:25
say. This
56:27
might be hendrix. Best.
56:30
Club Record ever. Yes it is
56:32
a relic of I'm trying to
56:34
think of what what goes up
56:37
against. It is like Mad City
56:39
all right and King Cooter. and
56:41
and like swimming pools the the
56:43
examples like yes, Yes
56:46
A Oh those songs all are
56:48
They are great and they have
56:50
gone off in the club's. nothing
56:52
like this, nothing like this and
56:54
it's. It's
56:57
it's. insane. The. Lines
56:59
that he gets off in this song
57:01
I'm I just want to say and
57:03
we're going to discuss couple those Lies
57:05
and Cole I'm saving the big One
57:07
for you. Ah, but the stuff about
57:09
Atlanta. I
57:12
think his stuff this been percolating about rape
57:14
for a long time. It goes back to
57:16
that Earl sweatshirt. we have lights, you don't
57:18
know, the stuff the Drake does to these
57:20
young kids and it's a passport or not.
57:23
Think of it, you know he just comes
57:25
in and sucks people's life force and then
57:27
gets hit out of them and they just
57:29
throw them away and I think of like.
57:33
I'm block Boise be. As.
57:35
Think of Mokoena in I think of all these
57:37
people that he's done this to him. To
57:41
ramp I mean dream he just kind of
57:43
like so that whole vibe. Drake.
57:48
Has long been a tourist in
57:51
many different. Facets: Of
57:53
rap culture and that's. Okay,
57:58
Because it to an extent. If
58:00
you're also paying it forward and paying
58:02
the proper respect. But one of the
58:05
knocks on Drake that has been a
58:07
parents. It's actually funny doing this distract
58:09
ranking The first film ever really destroy
58:11
card was our Sos walkers arm whack
58:14
to whack. Weird gets it all this
58:16
stuff basically being like you're an actor
58:18
and you only you don't actually believe
58:20
in these things be styles that you're
58:23
trying on. These. Are tissue
58:25
doing this to gain credibility across
58:27
source. Walker said it was better
58:29
than I said it, but the
58:31
last else in this on specifically
58:33
hits on all that. In.
58:36
Other. People have said this critics have
58:38
made this point. Earl Sweatshirt had this
58:41
tweets Other artist have said similar things.
58:44
The. Fact that it's Kendrick Lamar the
58:46
only person that can sell his drake
58:49
for the title of most influential rapper
58:51
of the past fifteen years. The.
58:54
Fact. He's saying. On
58:56
possibly. What
58:59
could be his biggest hit record ever? Has
59:03
the chance cheese how we think of
59:05
Drake for ever. I
59:07
mean here's the thing you are know how
59:09
does that as successful does record Because when
59:11
I went to bed. No
59:14
one was calling. Drake are Kelly and
59:16
the minute I woke up every medium
59:18
of was just reading. Take that he
59:21
was the next. Ultimately and I'm just
59:23
like once again, none of this has
59:25
none of this That is corroborated. None
59:28
of this city sourced, none of this.
59:30
the allegations have. We haven't seen anything
59:32
besides what kinda cassette and still. Set.
59:35
It in such a way where it's like. This
59:38
song. He does the
59:40
Drake thing so well. Where there are
59:43
multiple points in this song where it's
59:45
like think about the a minor part
59:47
that Success Rate does video. What did
59:50
they? Three seats and my tennis just
59:52
take see a Now secure You see
59:54
videos of people in a club yelling
59:57
a minor. Mistakes. Ross.
1:00:00
What I'm saying he didn't say oh
1:00:02
v all on like this is the
1:00:04
cornea sit ever but I'm like. People.
1:00:06
Will say this for ever
1:00:08
now. It's. I did
1:00:10
not expect tends to be this good at
1:00:12
making a hit records and the fact that
1:00:15
this was the second of the bees from
1:00:17
him. Is. Insanity. Is
1:00:21
like the Potomac like that as be like that
1:00:23
as the first one and then as I got
1:00:25
people. Now what? That was a
1:00:27
future those of you too much or record
1:00:30
Mm does like as you can take anything
1:00:32
away from our from this one out of
1:00:34
zip ties are gonna load him to mustard
1:00:36
So is dollars right? Yeah, I'm into the
1:00:38
strategy. It's like not only does it. And
1:00:41
kind of refreshed the vibes. As we noted
1:00:43
before it's I keep out did Drake at
1:00:45
what Drake was supposed to do in this
1:00:48
battle was given make a hit that is
1:00:50
also he does all about the back and
1:00:52
he out drake Drake t he beat him
1:00:54
at his own game. In this
1:00:57
one in this round of the battle.
1:01:00
So. In terms of says move, I think
1:01:03
this was his biggest just move. As.
1:01:05
As brilliant I think in terms of strategy
1:01:07
that meet the Grams was and having that
1:01:09
ready and the timing of and and and
1:01:11
calling what Drake was gonna do before he
1:01:13
did it. Brilliance.
1:01:15
From the strategy but this one to follow
1:01:17
it up and the timing was perfect. I
1:01:20
remember when I first saw the kinda dropped
1:01:22
again was like what the I was not
1:01:24
excited to listen to it but the moment
1:01:26
they came on. As. It's like. A
1:01:29
neutralize the night before and I was it
1:01:31
was. This was a was I just to
1:01:33
handed to him and term strategy because it
1:01:36
was perfectly executed. Not only the song was
1:01:38
just great and as the probably going to
1:01:40
be the song one of the songs of
1:01:42
the summer if not the it was just
1:01:44
in terms of just the execution of it
1:01:46
the timing of it. Seemed.
1:01:49
Perfect in my eyes from a strategy
1:01:51
standpoint. Risky. As big as free as
1:01:53
the here is some of our yard
1:01:56
for Yes, Yes, it's not like it's
1:01:58
I'd like sitting. Image
1:02:01
that. Is Also the thing was like
1:02:03
Lucky doing battle rap saying i'm just like.
1:02:06
Over the course of like. Twenty
1:02:08
four Hours. Can.
1:02:11
Just be cool. To
1:02:13
basic for everyone on the planet to
1:02:15
think that Drake is a patio. With.
1:02:17
No actual. Facts
1:02:19
or photos or anything people are just sitting
1:02:22
at like a club. Songs is dark. Don't
1:02:24
get me wrong, I'm not solely that's. Dark
1:02:26
but also where'd you go after
1:02:29
added on and I think. Things.
1:02:31
Were found the answer. Which is him.
1:02:33
That's worse than hiding a child being
1:02:35
like you had a pedophile ring. In.
1:02:38
From ah. Yeah. Really
1:02:40
did just that. In terms of like
1:02:42
the importance of memorable. Lines
1:02:44
of the seems like an important
1:02:47
aspect of of battle. That.
1:02:49
The history of battle because when we think about
1:02:51
says he knows where we think about he by
1:02:53
big you like they're quotable lines that of sustain.
1:02:55
The. Test of time, right? And I think. Ultimately,
1:02:59
Aside from. Fuck. The big three
1:03:01
it's is the big me. I think all the memorable
1:03:03
lines are going to come from. Not Like Us. That.
1:03:06
Does sound right. Well you are. You are
1:03:08
underestimating. I hate the way The Walker Hathaway,
1:03:10
the top a the way the dress for
1:03:13
the to how I supplements are that are
1:03:15
that are such as that. What? like to?
1:03:17
Ah very if we're if we're talking about
1:03:19
the actual lines that you can like saying.
1:03:22
Like. You all are back to back in a club
1:03:24
like know when I get you over the next couple
1:03:26
weeks. People. With baffling euphoria.
1:03:29
Pushups. Family matters Any
1:03:32
will go back down to like that
1:03:34
into not like Us Yeah oh my
1:03:36
god and production is so good that
1:03:38
must be the way drops in with
1:03:40
that see a bone an honorary.in you
1:03:42
know he's. It's. A very regional
1:03:44
record to that is I I would
1:03:46
be remiss if I got on the
1:03:48
spot. Yeah, so did not mention that
1:03:50
he used the flow. That was kind
1:03:52
of i'm. Advantage.
1:03:56
By. Draco the ruler. Of
1:03:58
is in either over must. The which
1:04:00
is mrs very interesting if you know
1:04:02
the history between draco and monsieur but
1:04:04
like it's it's a very regional records
1:04:06
thought. You know that the
1:04:08
whole idea of the catches, the catchy lines.
1:04:11
Being. Part of the rat be for this
1:04:13
catchy thing the even grab on to grant.
1:04:15
when would I'm talking about this big list
1:04:18
that's live on the ringer.com To listeners of
1:04:20
dissect, please feel free to go view ago,
1:04:22
go quickest and then argue about or do
1:04:24
whatever you must with it. I'm. Most
1:04:27
of the songs at the top of
1:04:29
the lists. Have something
1:04:31
that is so edgy about
1:04:33
them, like. This all
1:04:35
starts with a book when I could do
1:04:37
history lesson Reagan mood. We could
1:04:39
be here all day and night be
1:04:42
I set up Old Man. But the
1:04:44
starts with the bridges over the Boogie
1:04:46
Down production disarm were a deterrent. It
1:04:48
was. It took this bees and
1:04:50
you know a terrorist one turn into the
1:04:52
city song saying the singsong say i'm i
1:04:55
think of easy he real of the fucking
1:04:57
geez which that be if this is this
1:04:59
you hear that be wants is gonna be
1:05:02
stuck in your head for the rest of
1:05:04
your life. I'm. The
1:05:06
Best: This song's function not only
1:05:08
on this on a rap level,
1:05:10
not only on a I'm going
1:05:12
to. Ether this guy
1:05:15
be functional level where they just
1:05:17
rattle running your brain forever is
1:05:19
this one will. A
1:05:21
idol it is. The.
1:05:24
Strategy about of of the strategy behind
1:05:26
it was genius. The.
1:05:29
Onslaught. This avalanche
1:05:31
of this records was something it
1:05:33
took the back to back playbook
1:05:36
in pussy to another level. But.
1:05:38
This being so song is is
1:05:40
so perfect. It is honestly one
1:05:42
of the best this records that
1:05:45
you will ever hear it. That's
1:05:47
even before you consider this the
1:05:49
steaks of this battle. Because
1:05:52
his battle rages. Among.
1:05:55
The biggest hit wherever going to see if
1:05:57
not the biggest the our own will get
1:05:59
to the. The and an episode
1:06:01
bill as move on to the
1:06:03
final will hopefully the final but
1:06:06
we have to his this record
1:06:08
this is a okay yeah I'm
1:06:10
twenty four hours. Essentially after not
1:06:12
like us Drake drops again as
1:06:15
the Hard Part Six which is
1:06:17
playing off of Kendrick so long
1:06:19
pre album release Lucy is kind
1:06:21
of hijacking that from him in
1:06:24
the same way that Kendrick to
1:06:26
hijack the Time Codes song for
1:06:28
his Lucy It's cover. In that
1:06:30
part Six ties in to hold drakes. Six
1:06:33
would have been great of the song was
1:06:35
good. There's. A lot a lot
1:06:37
of work. Not a ground he covers here.
1:06:39
I'm just gonna say the bullet points is
1:06:41
gonna take me a second but we gotta
1:06:44
we gotta hit him. So. He
1:06:47
is. He begins with claiming that
1:06:49
he set up Kendrick. Regarding.
1:06:51
The Mall and Oviedo. To.
1:06:53
See him false to purposely feed
1:06:55
Centric false info about the alleged
1:06:58
daughter Centrally tried to neutralize what
1:07:00
he reveals on Meet the Grabs.
1:07:02
Ah uses the photo that Kendrick
1:07:04
used as artwork for me to
1:07:07
Grams as evidence that he planned
1:07:09
this whole thing all along. There's.
1:07:12
Some holes in that we supply talked about. second.
1:07:15
He. Tells Kendrick importantly to fact
1:07:17
check his information. So he says ah
1:07:19
ha ha I food you, you need
1:07:22
to fact check year, your answer, your
1:07:24
thirst of your ear yeah I've seen
1:07:26
in your ear dupe. Ah but I
1:07:28
think the fact checking is pretty important
1:07:31
or he brings that he plays that
1:07:33
card. I doubled down on the day
1:07:35
Free accusation doubles down on the physical
1:07:37
abuse to his partner. Actually accusation. Claims.
1:07:40
That he hasn't seen Kendrick or claims
1:07:43
that Kendrick hasn't seen as kids and
1:07:45
six months outright denies very clearly of
1:07:47
being a pedophile, says he's too famous
1:07:49
not to get caught. Suggest.
1:07:51
That Kendrick is doing all of this
1:07:53
to cope with the fact that Kendrick
1:07:55
himself was molested as a child and
1:07:58
uses Kendrick song mother I Sober as
1:08:00
proof that is false will talk about
1:08:02
that, but that is absolutely false. The
1:08:04
have to say that now claims that
1:08:06
he feels sorry for dissing Kendrick now
1:08:08
after making this connection, but also tons
1:08:11
of about it as well with the
1:08:13
Mariah Carey might like. But.
1:08:15
He is saying that he feel sorry for Kendrick
1:08:17
now does a wanted to some anymore. He suggests
1:08:19
that he's done with the beef. He says he
1:08:22
could drop one hundred more record records. I'll see
1:08:24
you later. He has
1:08:26
he spoken like a talking out
1:08:28
true where he says this is
1:08:30
was a good lyrical exercise sharpened
1:08:32
his sword says Kendrick was is
1:08:35
a liar or. Admits
1:08:37
that not like us as a banger. And.
1:08:40
Then says he's winning on Kendrick to actually
1:08:42
speak some facts and and tell. Then. I'll
1:08:45
see you later. So I think the over up.
1:08:48
Kind. Of what he's trying to get country
1:08:50
to do is respond directly to the
1:08:52
allegations in the same way that he
1:08:54
did here. on our part six an
1:08:56
offer proof about drugs claims. Ah
1:08:59
ok. Charles
1:09:02
but he thinks I'm a be real
1:09:04
deceased is coming from her recovering ah
1:09:06
Brisbane job. He know how big of
1:09:09
a drag than I am. Bigger than
1:09:11
Kendrick and I will say ah my
1:09:13
goat went out So fucking said it
1:09:15
a multitude of ways. Ah it's it's
1:09:18
it's our fellow I skins with our
1:09:20
light skinned man like you can't reach
1:09:22
quit okay can't Quite odd I just
1:09:24
kidding, that's it. Let's pleasant live, wouldn't
1:09:27
go to a really quick burst. Baldrick.
1:09:30
You are on the internet with
1:09:32
your little buddy academics counting down
1:09:34
the days of rushing Kendrick. The
1:09:37
kids says dropping see aren't you You
1:09:39
can be like you know what out
1:09:41
of the feel that is beaten. Know
1:09:43
it? You can't see them with the
1:09:45
fat second shit whereas is like stop
1:09:48
that Ahmed nothing beats accept don't when
1:09:50
in the fucking New York Times copy
1:09:52
desk brow beat like stop dollar all
1:09:54
you're already in the fucking bites dopey
1:09:56
mattress. your fucking disgusting. Now it's third.
1:10:00
I don't. I don't think
1:10:02
tank. I mean I don't think Drake. Does.
1:10:05
Have people around him last week here because
1:10:08
if I was in the studio with him
1:10:10
in i heard that bar about like dog
1:10:12
as I was really a photo posted up
1:10:14
would have been caught by.up like. I
1:10:17
was like whoa whoa whoa what the
1:10:19
fuck am just like everything that is
1:10:22
happening in the world. We want me
1:10:24
to bring up all like but like.
1:10:27
I think if anyone was gonna get away with
1:10:29
their seats, it has to be very rich people
1:10:31
that are insane tax bracket streets. It's not doing
1:10:33
what they do. Think. It is Emmys
1:10:36
and then again. What
1:10:39
did direct think? I think both kendrick
1:10:41
injury cause they're massage a sick very
1:10:44
homophobic all his assets at this time.
1:10:46
But I want to be clear. What?
1:10:49
Do you think making fun of.
1:10:52
Kendrick For what you think happens in getting
1:10:54
molested, what's you think that does for you
1:10:56
good. I walk away from that being like.
1:11:00
You're the asshole outbreak Like
1:11:02
Centric was the asshole buzzword,
1:11:04
Grasping so desperately at the
1:11:06
straws it says felt like.
1:11:09
New. Key A be the guy was
1:11:11
throwing so many subliminal than so many
1:11:13
punches at the minute you start losing.
1:11:15
being like may outcast you drop one
1:11:17
hundred more time spock this item good
1:11:19
for this or much work to good
1:11:22
for the seats would have digging up
1:11:24
fucking pops grave and desecrated you for
1:11:26
this little fucking be you were you
1:11:28
weren't fucking too good for. This is
1:11:30
when you were throwing hendrix partners at
1:11:32
like business partner as a life partner
1:11:35
seeds anything under the bus. So I
1:11:37
just it was it was that bro.
1:11:39
It's well, but you can't pull the i'm
1:11:41
exhausted now. you're part of the exhaust seen.
1:11:43
Like. Eyes. I. Was a
1:11:46
little respect for a my the sixty
1:11:48
nine.of the. You
1:11:51
know faiths of God.
1:11:53
I said that I'm.
1:11:57
Meet the Grams. Was.
1:12:00
Like. From the Mark of Valley
1:12:02
Playbook. The.
1:12:05
Hard Part Six. Is
1:12:07
like. If. Machiavelli.
1:12:10
Went. To go see Nathan Fielder and working
1:12:12
on his game plan. Who's.
1:12:14
Nathan Fielder. Oh
1:12:17
we gotta we gotta know what
1:12:19
call way why Riviera Tell me
1:12:21
I'm a baby I know I'm
1:12:23
terrible near the near you the
1:12:25
curse the or hurt a lot
1:12:28
of herzl. Oh man or a
1:12:30
little we we we can only give you
1:12:32
a love the rehearsal like that actually seems
1:12:34
like a very wholesale i think my make
1:12:36
him very uncomfortable. you remember how never. Know.
1:12:39
With you know, native I thought I thought
1:12:41
Nathan Fielder would call call Catnip Mayor is
1:12:44
my is it unless I'm standing homework about
1:12:46
it. I did. This is actually the
1:12:48
best not so somehow less on standing homework
1:12:50
we could do for just for a little
1:12:52
farm. this just for you. See, you
1:12:54
can say you can keep this even. Cut
1:12:57
this if you think the audience wants
1:12:59
to once. It's however, Nathan
1:13:02
for you With a show that ran
1:13:04
on Comedy Central were Nathan Fielder ah,
1:13:06
I'm basically where he's this. Very.
1:13:08
Deadpanned. I. Guess
1:13:11
comedian but just as very dead pan
1:13:13
guy who exists in the comedy world
1:13:15
would give. Relieve.
1:13:17
The most I'm the worst Business
1:13:19
advice you care to struggling small
1:13:21
business owners but that sometimes have
1:13:23
this like. Little. Inkling
1:13:26
of Genius. So it's like,
1:13:28
okay, I'm. This. Gas
1:13:30
station. We're going to offer
1:13:33
rebates. Bought in order for
1:13:35
you to actually claimed the rebate on the
1:13:37
gas. you I see if the hike up
1:13:39
this like crazy terrain and in put it
1:13:41
in the rebate box and who's crazy enough
1:13:43
to actually do that? Turns out there were
1:13:45
people crazy enough to do that anyways if
1:13:48
they're so convoluted. All I'm saying here is
1:13:50
that. Drakes plan to
1:13:52
if we're to believe him.
1:13:55
To. Win this rap battle. Was.
1:14:00
Information about him hiding
1:14:02
a child. And
1:14:04
being a pedophile, So.
1:14:07
That way when Kendrick raps about it.
1:14:10
He can then be like ha ha. That.
1:14:12
Was fake and for we said you. With.
1:14:14
No proof by the one with, but
1:14:16
it's. It's as
1:14:18
even if it was, Proof is like. Why
1:14:21
would your mind go there? I
1:14:24
mean what? Hours ago he was on instagram
1:14:26
stories being like. The. Aljazeera do
1:14:28
not. Anybody could find my secret sigh
1:14:30
old and then a day littered like
1:14:32
I actually played that all along on
1:14:34
like bookstore shelves or it will get
1:14:37
with the woods you have a lease
1:14:39
film like when if he does your
1:14:41
plan when the big reveal let Kendrick
1:14:43
drugged me to grams and then immediately
1:14:45
not today's not forty eight hours after
1:14:47
after me to grabs immediately. Reveal.
1:14:51
Your your hand that right? like with some video
1:14:53
evidence or something like. I
1:14:55
think he just looked online, saw that
1:14:57
this was a theory going around and
1:14:59
as took credit for it all the
1:15:01
evidence. From. What I tracked seem that
1:15:03
that since the line up perfectly. That.
1:15:06
Is all that does not it. Even if
1:15:08
that was true I don't know that's a
1:15:10
win. A bit melvin from both. Sound insane
1:15:13
where it focuses center like cases has eluded
1:15:15
service and pushes. He has eluded to
1:15:17
this stuff supposedly great. Does this thing when
1:15:19
every getting to be where he throws a
1:15:22
bunch of money died in the cinema. sorry
1:15:24
I do I need some dirt but I
1:15:26
for you're not feeling of we see you're
1:15:28
not been the freaking to get allegations is
1:15:31
drugs but you know our going to win
1:15:33
This beats me an eleven year old girl
1:15:35
that opposes. My Lg many daughter and
1:15:38
we're going to feel that to fucking
1:15:40
tragic scale of like dogs log off
1:15:42
work for success so fast this is
1:15:45
be normal. it's like this makes Zaillian
1:15:47
nice just look like fuckin a friendly
1:15:49
slap boxing match. I'm just like what
1:15:52
a great intend to do as I
1:15:54
read up this one. I mean the
1:15:56
whole thing is after beat the games
1:15:58
on like man. Hendrick might be a
1:16:01
like crazy person. After
1:16:03
after the hard part, six on
1:16:05
like. Drake. What the
1:16:07
fuck is wrong with you?
1:16:09
This is crazy. This is
1:16:11
absolutely you see whether soon
1:16:13
enough. Also, wish. To say
1:16:16
that. There are only two
1:16:18
people. There's only one person in this
1:16:20
entire thing that has brought up the
1:16:22
names Jeffrey Epstein and Millie Bobby Brown
1:16:24
And it was suffering. He goes, yeah,
1:16:27
I knew you'd from a Pepsi stuff
1:16:29
and so did you. Is
1:16:32
like or what you're going to refers Millie
1:16:34
Bobby Brown Dislike know. But you are. Already
1:16:37
on for Sarah. Man move it is.
1:16:39
It is the most you know. This
1:16:42
is what is the classic tweet. You
1:16:44
know? V. V
1:16:47
yeah I do. You think I was
1:16:49
a pedophile sir is bringing up questions
1:16:51
already answered by my serve. Gas.
1:16:55
It. Is not
1:16:57
looking good for the boy I'll be. Ah what do we
1:16:59
didn't talk about as a song? would you guessing about as
1:17:02
a song? Syllable. There's
1:17:04
a reason we talk about it as
1:17:06
a song like. I also think the
1:17:08
worst things. What's worse
1:17:11
than like spoke mafia boss Drake?
1:17:13
Is. Reactive. Drake his
1:17:16
defensive Drake and suchlike family matters works because
1:17:18
he actually thought like if you was in
1:17:20
a family matters how you're like oh you
1:17:22
thought this was the one that was gonna
1:17:25
wind up for sure He said loan on
1:17:27
vacation Yeah, did you few kind of feel
1:17:29
that energy? We're like. Oh. Okay,
1:17:31
but you've got us in the bag.
1:17:33
And the hard part? Six is so
1:17:36
defenses it's like. He's a
1:17:38
Clydesdale. it's how could you averages believe is
1:17:40
it is. And I'm like, that's not. That's
1:17:43
not a good tactic. Does not
1:17:45
like us works because I just
1:17:47
seems so. Far. Past of
1:17:49
worrying that could ever win stuff. he's having
1:17:51
so much spawn. That's it. It's infectious. Were
1:17:54
no lot of wondering if any of this
1:17:56
is through. Were like over party and whatnot
1:17:58
intensive. Now let's turn offs and. That Harper,
1:18:00
it's com zone. I'm just like. Site.
1:18:03
You're rapping about Epstein and Millie Bobby
1:18:05
Brown I think you. This also is
1:18:07
a been clear it's also you play
1:18:09
into the he and that can just
1:18:11
wanted you to play when I'm like
1:18:13
your entire homeless at a good amount
1:18:15
of that song. Who's. Drake
1:18:17
defending himself against the paddle out at
1:18:19
it was accusations and I'm like I
1:18:22
don't know if you needed to spend
1:18:24
as much real estate on this man.
1:18:26
Diseases makes you sound. Way.
1:18:28
More Guilty. Than it would.
1:18:30
it is like satellites not back to
1:18:33
the sewer lights of Zip A objectively
1:18:35
a seems like goes a literally uproot
1:18:37
the Pr move. I mean he has
1:18:39
to As a someone that wants to
1:18:42
keep a sponsorships and maintain some com
1:18:44
status and credibility with with brands he
1:18:46
china has to outright deny them and
1:18:48
that felt like. Probably. The
1:18:51
main. Goal of the
1:18:53
song was to get in on record
1:18:55
within the be step. He denied the
1:18:57
allegations so that. It. To
1:18:59
just try to save face a little bit
1:19:01
and to keep it moving because obviously hidden
1:19:03
that he. Argued auto he some
1:19:06
exhausted to me it sounded very reactionary.
1:19:08
it sound very rusted in some thoughts
1:19:10
through at all. it just seemed like
1:19:12
an obligatory i'm just gonna end this
1:19:14
I'm going to find these angles that
1:19:16
I think mice, I think his fans.
1:19:18
It's good enough for his fans as
1:19:20
core audience. to
1:19:23
run with and. That. The
1:19:25
especially the set, the setting up the
1:19:27
mall and his camp thing. I think
1:19:29
that's gives his audience enough ammo to
1:19:31
feel like Drake one or at least
1:19:33
and get totally annihilated. Any
1:19:35
and it is just checking a bunch of
1:19:37
boxes right? and I just felt like that's
1:19:39
what the the song felt like to me
1:19:42
on first impression. I've listened to it maybe
1:19:44
three or four times since then and every
1:19:46
time I just I just keep picking holes
1:19:48
in it, adjusts to spend an objective strategic
1:19:50
standpoint. It's just there's so many holes and
1:19:52
what he's trying to do. And
1:19:55
I think he was naming it The hard part
1:19:57
six. And trying to do
1:19:59
the psychological empathy. To
1:20:02
the Kendrick thing. Just. Totally
1:20:04
fell flat for me. Ugly. Or you
1:20:06
just not that dude like be. you.
1:20:08
Do you? You're You're just not intellectually
1:20:10
capable of doing that. I'm sorry and
1:20:13
soda tried to do this. I feel
1:20:15
sorry for you that you've got molested.
1:20:17
Which just for the record mother I
1:20:19
sober is about Kendrick not having been
1:20:21
molested. So did service understand like to
1:20:24
me as a dry As a tenured
1:20:26
fan. Drake Miss
1:20:28
Interpreting. Kendrick. Music so
1:20:30
transparently. and then. Double
1:20:33
Downing. That's your main angle of
1:20:35
exiting this beasts. Is this? like.
1:20:38
To. Me, The difference between the two
1:20:40
artists like Die does not go
1:20:42
that far outweigh was let's not
1:20:44
go that far. Draco be fine.
1:20:46
Drake is directed three hours behind
1:20:48
a barring any actual proof with
1:20:50
evidence at the coming. I think
1:20:52
both artists are gonna beat absolutely
1:20:54
fine. I'm just saying from my
1:20:56
vantage point he tried his to
1:20:59
the can send Your thing and
1:21:01
does absolutely failed were. If we're
1:21:03
comparing these. Side. By side
1:21:05
with as a response to. Not
1:21:07
like us centered. Clearly did
1:21:09
the drake thing better than drake within this
1:21:11
battle. And if drinks rebuttal to
1:21:14
that was traded to the kinda thing
1:21:16
better than Kendrick. Adding. Clearly
1:21:18
Kendrick. Wins this round right? Ah,
1:21:20
Kendrick so far has won every round
1:21:23
and I'm not like once again I
1:21:25
like that's music more than centered at
1:21:27
I just objective we speaking. There's not
1:21:29
one time during this whole thing where
1:21:31
I was just like. Oh
1:21:34
checks run away with the where it's like
1:21:36
there have been a few times now. I'm
1:21:38
like censored as.really lost yet and that is
1:21:40
where I still am as a western earth
1:21:42
which is hard to say is you normally
1:21:44
hitter. If if I
1:21:46
were kendrick. The
1:21:49
only thing I would do now. Is.
1:21:51
Just tweet out. Release. The
1:21:53
over your flight logs. Your
1:21:58
honestly. You just start
1:22:01
talking about the ovule I went because
1:22:03
as is my work, duchess run with
1:22:05
anything right now, which. Shows.
1:22:07
You that he won the beast because
1:22:09
we're talking about not like us and
1:22:11
yelling a minor in Reiki somewhere on
1:22:14
an island. Hopefully.
1:22:16
resting, you know, holsters, Just
1:22:19
take a break. but it's it's okay. It
1:22:21
happens to the best of us. So.
1:22:23
Do we do? We think this is over said
1:22:26
Kendrick respond, nor is it. So we just. To
1:22:28
I was convinced that and my
1:22:30
interpretation. After listening to Harper Six
1:22:33
and knowing that Kendrick had. Arsenal.
1:22:36
And you are ready to go! I
1:22:38
was just like, oh, this is Drake
1:22:40
wobbling like a Mortal Kombat character and
1:22:43
does. And Kendrick is going
1:22:45
to drop something and just totally annihilate
1:22:47
him after I woke up this morning.
1:22:49
I was like, mean, that's probably not
1:22:51
the move Actually, I think I don't
1:22:53
think he needs to respond whether he
1:22:55
I. Wouldn't be surprised
1:22:57
if he did. If is that fucking crew
1:22:59
and that kind of the reins to just
1:23:01
chop his head off at this point because
1:23:04
it is waiting for him I think right
1:23:06
there. But. Yeah I don't think
1:23:08
it needs to respond just what you
1:23:10
thing. I think there has been chopped
1:23:12
off. I think that Drake is so
1:23:14
decisively loss which is not something I
1:23:16
thought you know seventy two hours ago
1:23:18
that why be seen that coming out
1:23:20
of this weekend. It's crazy. I thought
1:23:22
like. Rap beats
1:23:25
of typically going you go, I go, You
1:23:27
go I go with respond to the response
1:23:29
Respond to the response in Drakes in in
1:23:31
Kendra says like i'm gonna hit you with
1:23:34
an avalanche like fuck back to back understood
1:23:36
each with an avalanche and the way I've
1:23:38
described it is. It's like
1:23:40
Drake. You. Have. A
1:23:43
candle can melt. The.
1:23:45
Snow and cent of it. But. A candles
1:23:47
got nothing against an avalanche. Intended
1:23:50
hit him with an avalanche. There's.
1:23:54
No, I don't see. The.
1:23:57
His role on the floor man? I don't know.
1:24:01
What else could he do? Know it's
1:24:03
it's so far it's is.the reason why
1:24:05
I'm like. I think center
1:24:08
to smarter than this is you let your final
1:24:10
record be not like us and that record does
1:24:12
what I think it's gonna do. I don't know
1:24:14
how much of a hit it is, but I'm
1:24:16
like. It's. That ends up even
1:24:18
just starting on the hot one hundred.
1:24:20
He's walked away with a clean sweep
1:24:22
whereas a pin drop something now there
1:24:24
is a sense that we're just like
1:24:26
our rights and jerk were tired where
1:24:28
it is also just leaves. Twisting
1:24:31
in the wind because I'm like I'm too late.
1:24:33
The. Burden is on him because our part
1:24:36
six did not work. It is not slimming
1:24:38
as well as those other songs so it's
1:24:40
like. The ball is still in
1:24:42
Drakes camp. You added me one hit. Tennis.
1:24:45
On his way to like article euphoria
1:24:47
to get roman number one already song
1:24:49
like can of Dropped By So Recertified
1:24:52
Fucking. Bangers. On your fucking
1:24:54
head. Ah. I'm
1:24:56
sorry, three bangers to winded. The.
1:24:59
Stories it's it's over. It's a personal
1:25:01
matters is is like I like the
1:25:04
record but like I am objective enough.
1:25:06
I think to be like. This
1:25:09
it affected disruptor with a sudden hit. So
1:25:12
you know that, Are you gonna listen to them? I
1:25:14
mean that our youtube melody a stuff and last
1:25:16
but like this I can say this. What's
1:25:19
the Kendrick Records of Donna's I sides
1:25:21
been a making a playlist for this
1:25:23
distract ranking which again you can be
1:25:25
on the ringer.professor Hard ah you know
1:25:27
who do you if you're not gonna
1:25:29
ask you what, I'm where I'm here
1:25:31
to promote some Some analysts are. I'm.
1:25:35
I've been making a playlist to go along with
1:25:37
it and I've been slotting in the new all
1:25:39
the new to songs like scaring them throughout. And.
1:25:44
Family. Matters is on their noses into
1:25:46
the playlist this morning. And I
1:25:48
just skip right past Family Matters. We like Family
1:25:50
Matters is going to make the list. Is
1:25:53
yes Yes, this can be. It.
1:25:55
Can be a lot lower than everything else. Though
1:25:58
the over you'll see him. We we do that
1:26:01
share. A good
1:26:03
night. For the whole the O'brien is
1:26:05
not the shelves which is why jokes
1:26:07
assessment us do our do the boy
1:26:09
saw as. I
1:26:12
am. I am. I
1:26:15
may be I'm okay. Upper this with I'll
1:26:17
Take. I'll take whatever money anybody wants. A
1:26:19
slimy. But. I might want to
1:26:21
stay with me. Oh the oh money right
1:26:23
now. Remember my mom sat on the low
1:26:26
blow? Just this is a very very low.
1:26:28
Fucking wouldn't look, I'm with it. I need
1:26:30
a need wiki leaks to get on this
1:26:33
and unanimous get on this and like just
1:26:35
figure out what's actually going on up there.
1:26:37
Any them to hack into the computers and
1:26:39
he did the hack into Ovie O'brien's I'm.
1:26:42
Into. The mainframe money to like I
1:26:44
just. I gotta
1:26:46
I gotta see for real was gonna have
1:26:48
any real quickly guys We're second. The
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Not Like does cover art is also
1:26:53
genius. I dislike. Oh god yeah it
1:26:55
is okay. So. Other
1:26:58
tinge of your journey Evil Evil
1:27:00
man. I
1:27:03
think that I think the only way I'd
1:27:06
functionally I think the only way Kendrick could.
1:27:08
Cleanly, Response on Actually I won't say doctors
1:27:10
p surprised me with not like us and so
1:27:13
I'm not going to try to predict what he
1:27:15
he could pull off or not, but it does
1:27:17
seem like. The. General
1:27:19
consensus around the beef. At
1:27:22
this point is. Who's. Going
1:27:24
to have proof first. Serve.
1:27:26
Kendrick as something up his sleeve that proves
1:27:28
any of this. I think that's his next
1:27:30
play if the as an exploit and adding
1:27:32
that leads from my vantage point. The only
1:27:34
play that. Seems. Like is
1:27:36
needed is and generally speaking proof is
1:27:38
is needed at this point right? or
1:27:40
at all. This is just and a
1:27:42
kind of dissipates and will call in
1:27:44
the spirit of. A battle for
1:27:47
better or for definitely for worse. but
1:27:49
that seems to be the only played
1:27:51
Last Depth feels like it would be
1:27:53
accepted where it's like oh, he did
1:27:55
have that he did have. Proof.
1:27:57
All along he was just waiting for the final
1:27:59
mobile. The reveal it. But that being said,
1:28:01
the I think. Clearly kendrick
1:28:03
one can be to say that
1:28:06
kendra war that easily go with
1:28:08
i did you gotta one after
1:28:10
I meet the grams and not
1:28:12
like us was stuff nail in
1:28:14
the coffin. ah so I'm very
1:28:16
saturday during fine I still supports
1:28:18
you to troll law. Now
1:28:20
awesome hotline bling. Is
1:28:24
this gonna be the most significant music history
1:28:26
event that we're going to witness or a
1:28:28
know of the that is now Rizwan? Don't
1:28:30
think so. The odds are just and people
1:28:32
keep sleep in our story that he died
1:28:34
and I'm like you to think we're still
1:28:37
waiting for proof of the as any of
1:28:39
this. So until I get that I'm like
1:28:41
most of the stop I'm like there might
1:28:43
be a hint of three to hear from
1:28:45
does like it's still allegations. Fuck.
1:28:48
It was a T. Damn.
1:28:50
Near walked. Threats: child up to
1:28:52
his front door and be like hey, Raise.
1:28:55
Your son and then a
1:28:57
couple days later retire it
1:28:59
was revealed. I'm like that.
1:29:01
still inviting something like the
1:29:03
Disease as blue. I
1:29:06
never thought that happens as were like. I
1:29:08
think most people were probably like center has
1:29:10
a really really good shot of winning this.
1:29:13
I remember around the paucity drake Beef. I
1:29:15
did not have the sense that I'd push
1:29:18
it. See what utter we dismantle that man
1:29:20
and I think we i with you call
1:29:22
were like. Story.
1:29:24
Is at dawn Looms large over
1:29:26
this be were both sides. Were
1:29:29
reaching for straws in sit on both
1:29:32
ends kind of and Drake was like
1:29:34
story of added on doesn't come out
1:29:36
I don't know if both if you
1:29:38
are so. Sad. When
1:29:40
Joe Like sat on the gossip angle that
1:29:43
was odyssey my least favorite part besides them
1:29:45
throwing the bunch of women and children under
1:29:47
the bus to satisfy themselves like as his.
1:29:49
Dad. Was gross but my second one
1:29:52
is. Why? You're so obsessed
1:29:54
with making this a pass at peace?
1:29:56
Why are you guys so obsessed with
1:29:58
the gossip and running with. She and
1:30:00
my Dad does not happen unless push.
1:30:02
It's Young bears his race to such
1:30:05
an extent. Yeah. I
1:30:07
think in terms of is is the
1:30:09
most significant music. Event in
1:30:11
our lifetime. Know is this the
1:30:13
most significant Rothys. That's maybe
1:30:15
what As Vs had a said it's
1:30:17
nanometer is not not. I mean when
1:30:19
you consider the size of the artists
1:30:22
we the sitter the a while of
1:30:24
Drake wants us to consider the size
1:30:26
of the art. For
1:30:28
we do for when consider like their success
1:30:30
in their level of notoriety and also like
1:30:33
the way that social media exists now the
1:30:35
way didn't for any of the other major
1:30:37
battles a the major major battles on our
1:30:39
side of Drake More City A. Thousand
1:30:42
different scale capacity was passing away
1:30:44
our paths. This. I
1:30:46
think could go down. Is
1:30:48
definitely like. This series
1:30:51
is t the or Knaus or big
1:30:53
a Dark it's like but in may
1:30:55
even go past that. I.
1:30:57
Don't know what all know that the reason
1:30:59
why I'm just like let's not be preserved
1:31:02
prisoners of the Moment is because unless drinking,
1:31:04
Kendrick is going. This. Was a
1:31:06
very speedy peace in the way that I
1:31:08
feel like. Part. In Big E
1:31:10
J and as was it was a little
1:31:12
bit more elongated, more back and forth to
1:31:14
your earlier point. Just it's here's a record.
1:31:16
Here's a record. Here's a record. This.
1:31:19
One was kind of. As
1:31:21
long as it felt like what it's been two
1:31:23
and half months, Of this. My
1:31:27
tend to kind of just like.break up
1:31:29
out of your way faster than I
1:31:31
thought would. Y yeah Once
1:31:33
the ball started rolling, it all clicked.
1:31:35
The climax was quick and adding more
1:31:37
southern than we all were expecting. They.
1:31:40
Didn't things are generally move faster
1:31:42
right? Like Cz a Nice drops
1:31:44
six records back and forth. Total
1:31:47
of six. Kendrick and
1:31:49
Drake Drop Six records. In.
1:31:51
Five days for his. It's
1:31:53
absolutely insane and that's what
1:31:55
I think is like is.
1:31:57
Interesting about this before, but I don't know that.
1:32:00
That's or help me Where it's like it
1:32:02
feels like we've been living for this. Do.
1:32:04
This forever if this is the last and
1:32:06
you're from them for a while I'm just
1:32:08
like, how did we remember this beat To
1:32:10
we remember it starting with like that. So.
1:32:13
We remember it starting with
1:32:15
for something Euphoria. Is it
1:32:17
just clearly. Ten just wins
1:32:19
if not like does is bass in
1:32:22
his at number one for a couple
1:32:24
weeks I still think there's of the
1:32:26
dust to dust has settled and like
1:32:29
part of me the might notice be
1:32:31
seen with that. So. What
1:32:33
I wanted it to when kids are
1:32:35
in for a good really started kind
1:32:37
of having to tell of these two
1:32:39
don't fucking with each other at all.
1:32:42
Part. Of the them like this wasn't
1:32:44
their best music for either of them.
1:32:46
I think Kendrick it's his best. Probably
1:32:48
some of his best pop music and
1:32:50
like radio ready club records. but this
1:32:52
was not as express wrapping and it's
1:32:55
certainly was not Tricks Petra. Yeah.
1:32:57
So let's hit. We had everything I think
1:33:00
we gotta we gotta rank. not going to
1:33:02
make all of them but let's go. Had
1:33:04
a rank or top three. Songs.
1:33:07
From this battle. Was. The
1:33:09
Go number three eats Justin.
1:33:11
What's your third song from
1:33:13
this battle? Oh okay. Ah,
1:33:15
I see, I want to
1:33:17
save my number three. Oh
1:33:20
okay I'm gonna go have a to Z Wanted a
1:33:22
wonder why why Why would you? What do you guys go
1:33:24
and then I'll than are you guys say your number
1:33:26
three than than also my number three The X I
1:33:28
want to be a surprise ago. I number
1:33:30
three for me. Was. A
1:33:32
mix up between euphoria
1:33:34
or pushups, Which. I
1:33:37
think are both about on the same level.
1:33:39
but for me before he does more I'm
1:33:41
and ago in number number three four you.
1:33:44
As a Kendrick fan, I think I'm
1:33:46
just excited to have a six minute
1:33:48
track that is just straight bars. Are.
1:33:51
You guys are here if you listen to
1:33:53
my nails to our analysis of it. It
1:33:55
just has all the Kendrick said I love.
1:33:57
and it doesn't hurt that he's going after.
1:34:00
An artist that I'm not particularly fond of,
1:34:02
generally speaking. So how do ya number three
1:34:04
for you trials when you think. I'm
1:34:07
going euphoria. It's like you said about
1:34:09
a rate from the beef. I just
1:34:11
think. When. I'm thinking of the things
1:34:14
that make me laugh, which is kind of what
1:34:16
it is me to do. Ah, this has a
1:34:18
lot of. Is a dumb are. Scared?
1:34:21
You know yet? Ah, this is
1:34:23
a. Soda. And
1:34:25
that's my number two so we can just
1:34:27
we couldn't even move. And Euphoria is my
1:34:29
number two. I'd call what's your
1:34:31
number two. So. Number two for me,
1:34:33
as tough as between number one adept number to give
1:34:35
them my try not to be preserve the moment. But.
1:34:39
I think I ultimately landed with Like That
1:34:41
being my number two. I'd
1:34:44
call it weren't agree is it isn't
1:34:46
My number two was wow oh shit. Others
1:34:48
really uncommon for us. Yeah, I played
1:34:50
the song every day when he came
1:34:52
out not only because I just like
1:34:54
the song the country versus obviously really
1:34:56
important and sparked all this but does.
1:34:58
as a song I think historically we're gonna
1:35:00
it's gonna survive the tested time. It's
1:35:02
going to have a lot of history
1:35:04
attached to it. Or even.
1:35:07
As. It's just a great song so Charles
1:35:09
and the Today I agree as well. I
1:35:11
think a lot of people try to do
1:35:13
the cool kids than world and it's not
1:35:15
an actual this is not a part of
1:35:17
the be Did is and like nothing indices
1:35:19
Ground Zero is that how it happens? I
1:35:22
do think that this is gonna be the
1:35:24
song that's remembered as see your point Starting
1:35:26
this all off it it's Kendrick doing something
1:35:28
that's traditionally it's not been very good at
1:35:30
which is being a feature artist on a
1:35:32
club record not getting in the way he
1:35:34
just like a bit so when to that
1:35:36
records are it goes off. Like days
1:35:38
So and success is number two is like
1:35:41
that's to and I say I think it's.
1:35:43
The best what is probably the best
1:35:45
or second best song does come out
1:35:47
of this whole thing but if of
1:35:49
I don't know we ranking songs are
1:35:51
dishonest because I'd do I'd like I
1:35:54
had said this many times. Taken
1:35:56
the Door by the Notorious Be Id one of my
1:35:58
all time favorite songs. It is. What am I?
1:36:00
All time favorite decision old had take bro it's
1:36:02
an old okay I'm just i just i guess
1:36:04
my name is introducing our like it's not a
1:36:06
good good song and I'm like is it's not
1:36:08
a song that he wouldn't have Drake and always
1:36:11
I'm of profiteering on that The is is like
1:36:13
I get I get we say I get anything
1:36:15
but this is he put the way you're talking
1:36:17
or know somebody who's raise in the back to
1:36:19
back there. I just
1:36:21
like my leg my disrupted though as someone
1:36:23
as like my disreputable you know if someone
1:36:25
it when I call her without kendrick it
1:36:27
it had recovered on a record that was
1:36:30
going address it was it was. That
1:36:33
in our politics is going to call
1:36:35
them and bombs or uses like know
1:36:37
how or how heard. This
1:36:41
song is a is It is a really good song.
1:36:43
You know what it's like. It's I
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think against the historical mods is for being
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like to make another reference. I mean a
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we're War two reference to was really old
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had got ours. Besides the Archduke Ferdinand moment,
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this is the latest. This was the moment
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that this was the assassination that kicked off
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the I'm that that made the power take
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explode. So guess that products I'm not understanding
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your way. I just think that the other
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dismisses dropped in. This a good I give
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my number one because I think we're all
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in agreement here and we can to segue
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into that. The British as big as. You
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lotta not like. Oh,
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they're all we all. Got
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number one. Bright is so broad
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agreement it is the one it
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some sort out of year
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Metro A great job Your
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quarterback in this whole thing.
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That's are doing too much better was officially
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he's doing. Is. Different. I'm
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just for context. It was. You. Explain
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what it is us and we? Are you? okay?
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the only good thing as ever
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come out of ai edits, ah,
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see, this is the somebody somebody
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made a like. Like. A
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disco style song based off the line
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that are rather the nickname that Rick
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Ross came up for Drake which was.
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Bbl. Jersey which you know Brazilian
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but lest. Jersey. Because while the
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plastic surgery on the work he's been dulles
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on your thoughts on Brazilian but less will
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you ever been with lot of ppl sales.
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know. like I mean I don't wanna When I heard
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that you can just go pay to get the to
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get some apps on like half. A. Lot
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of ppl if somebody wants to
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pay for it. If somebody wants
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to sponsor possible to sponsor size
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sex. Workers Any other podcasts
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hit us up like we will take
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you are so that was increases. Is
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this you? Is this you asking spot?
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yeah I would walk up and office
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next week. Access to to. Well
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as this metro took this a
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i saw any with the into
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a are into a be. And
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he's got people wrapping on it in to
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he's been given ten grams. Feels kind of
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low officer for visiting with any of his
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image of of a free metro even humor.
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Freeman is going to give a free metro
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be and ten grand to the winner and
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then a metro be to the runner up
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and he's got the. The thing about this
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one though he's got ran those all over
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the world I know and from Japan is
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that there was one hand there was some
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dude what is this sax solo over? It's
1:39:36
like the thing about his his of. It's.
1:39:40
It really exposes how most people
1:39:42
hate Drake. They.
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Were ready for eight years of thing
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I've I've tried our best. I'm just
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like dog is not even twenty one
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anymore is that the entire world sister
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site has warmed up. To. Do.
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What be deputy to pay? Which is it?
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orange? That. Here's a big heavy
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as the head that wears the crown are a so
1:40:03
I just wants you know. I'm rooting
1:40:05
for you. Take some time off, you know
1:40:08
what I'm saying. get no yada yada as
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they are sorry. I mean we hire be
1:40:12
seem it'll be all. Surfaces. New
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Ghost Rider flooding. They're dead bees in there.
1:40:17
Will be fine Drakes. Beautiful.
1:40:20
I think that's a good note. The and on. Jani.
1:40:24
That you unplug anything charles what he got coming up. Oh
1:40:27
what do I have coming up?
1:40:29
Hopefully of a case in if
1:40:31
you if you wanna hear some
1:40:34
my other great opinions on shows
1:40:36
like X Men go had that
1:40:38
I'm in my boys you know
1:40:40
I'm saying I'll be on proceeds
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T V talking about other stuff
1:40:44
over there. read me on the
1:40:47
ringer.com Um in all says say
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guys to the as big as
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the Vanguard treated as it is
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years now.o Real success success. System.
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Read your disregards a drop in his can be
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to a bigger dropping by by it's had. This
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episode is up the gaff be the well as
1:41:04
a little be up at six am eastern so
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the podcast might be able to some lead around
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self her it will was was he was up
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on the late will hit the link in the
1:41:13
scripts and yeah hit the link in the description
1:41:15
there with. I will.
1:41:17
Thanks guys! This is great! Be sure to check
1:41:19
out my analysis of euphoria in part to this
1:41:22
episode which again is terrible right now.
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