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1:17

Todd, here's going to give you another

1:19

opportunity to just absolutely flame. Henry,

1:21

do you want to do that? No,

1:23

I'm not going to take it. He did

1:25

a good job. Oh, come on. Who

1:28

wasn't me? I

1:30

mean, even people in the comments section, multiple people

1:32

in the comments section are

1:36

getting after you here right now. Oh, wait,

1:39

are we better? Are we all muted? He's

1:41

still saying muted. Okay, he

1:43

says we're good. He says muted. So

1:45

welcome in to the DNVR Broncos podcast

1:47

where I thought we were here, but

1:50

now we truly are here. Yeah,

1:52

what were you saying? You're back. We're

1:54

back. Yaya's back. Baldy's going to be back. Baldy's

1:56

going to be back at 1130. Yep.

2:00

That was now everybody's all caught up.

2:02

Yeah, everyone's back. We're all caught up

2:04

We're ready to rock and roll and

2:06

the Broncos are rocking and rolling in

2:10

Why can't I think where LSU is where

2:12

is that? Baton Rouge. Yes.

2:14

Yes. Yes. Well, I easy to forget when

2:16

you just think of like good college towns

2:19

in the south You think of tuscaloosa and

2:21

then I couldn't tell you one thing about

2:23

any college town down there I would imagine

2:25

they all love football. I'd be willing

2:27

to bet on that and probably pretty good food, too and

2:30

when you go there when you become a coach

2:32

down there, you just get a little southern accent

2:36

Like Brian Kelly Wow,

2:38

you're pretty good at that. Thank you. Yeah.

2:40

Well, I was in Texas for the very

2:42

first time this past weekend so

2:45

I got my Texas twang on and I went

2:47

to Florida and I

2:51

didn't really try any accents down

2:53

there. Yeah, is there is there

2:55

look Floridian accent? Yeah Yeah,

3:00

Florida. Yeah Feel

3:06

like some of Florida's like word choice to Small

3:10

words and lots of small words. Yeah.

3:12

I've never been to Texas either. What are you saying about

3:14

Texas people? They can only handle small They

3:22

can Texas people can definitely say long words because they

3:24

take so long to say them like they

3:26

can just sound out every Syllable,

3:29

you know like that that was almost an accent. That

3:31

wasn't supposed to be an accent that was supposed to

3:33

be talking slow But yeah, yeah,

3:35

no Fayetteville, huh? There's

3:37

another town Yeah And so Baton Rouge is

3:39

the one that I couldn't remember and that's

3:41

where the Broncos are right now Broncos contingent

3:44

down there For Jaden Daniels

3:46

protee or maybe it's Malik neighbors pro day

3:48

who knows who they're seeing but a lot

3:50

of talent down there at LSU

3:53

and it actually is pretty clear that

3:55

they are down there to see Jaden

3:57

Daniels because the Broncos are gonna have

3:59

an individual Meeting with jayden daniels

4:01

after his pro day today It's not

4:03

gonna be like the JJ McCarthy one

4:05

where they go through an entire separate

4:08

workout with JJ It's just

4:10

purely going to be to meet with him to

4:12

put him on the board to see what he's

4:14

got mentally This big news or is

4:16

this a smokescreen? Link it's

4:19

just news. I think it's covering on your basis.

4:21

Just just in case there's some way

4:23

this guy falls Oh You

4:26

know out of the top three we've done our research.

4:28

We've kind of seen him in person We've seen him

4:30

on the board and if he's

4:32

there then we can take the shot knowing that

4:34

we've done some research exactly You just I mean

4:37

the Broncos need a quarterback not sure if everybody's

4:39

heard that But you can't be sitting there on

4:41

draft day in a world where kill Williams goes

4:44

one maybe JJ McCarthy

4:46

goes to Drake May's three and

4:49

Everything's kind of chaos at the top and all of a sudden

4:51

you're sitting there at like the sixth seventh pick and jayden Daniel

4:53

is still on the board like if you're George Peyton, you can't

4:55

just be like hey Shawn Should we

4:58

go get this guy and Shawn just says like I? Don't

5:01

know. I've never met him like you can't

5:03

do that like you just have to all these top quarterbacks

5:05

You have to meet with them I think the bigger news

5:07

would have been if they don't meet with him and I

5:09

guess if they hadn't today They probably would have at some

5:11

point in the future But yeah, it's

5:13

it's just something that when you need a

5:16

quarterback you have to do like there's just

5:18

no way around it And the Broncos did

5:20

this at the combine they met with every

5:22

single top Quarterback and really every single quarterback.

5:24

I believe that was there they met with

5:26

they're gonna spend their individual meetings with Quarterbacks

5:29

as they absolutely should covering their basis, but

5:31

I think that this is actually Huge

5:34

news because I do think that this

5:36

is not a smokescreen. I don't think

5:38

if this is I'm just doing their

5:40

due diligence I think this is someone

5:42

who Shawn Peyton really likes and does

5:45

Shawn fall in love because we know we heard

5:47

it from George and Shawn Peyton earlier this week

5:49

if Everyone the way the

5:51

George Peyton put it was if everyone has

5:53

a consensus falling in love with the guy

5:56

Then you do whatever you need to to go get him Shawn said

5:58

if I fall in love with a guy We'll

6:00

do everything we need to to go

6:02

and get him and Jayden Daniels Has

6:05

like everything that Sean Payton has ever

6:07

mentioned as a trait Jayden

6:10

Daniels has from the most

6:12

important things in Sean's mind of decision making

6:14

being able to process everything We've seen about

6:16

Jayden Daniels these past couple years at LSU.

6:18

He has proven that he has that Accuracy

6:22

and then something that Sean started to throw

6:24

out there As as

6:26

of this week was the

6:28

ability to make plays when the pocket breaks

6:31

down and do things With

6:33

your feet bad news for your

6:35

guy Michael Pennicks jr But it's

6:37

not a must for Sean Payton obviously

6:39

drew breeze wasn't like that either But

6:42

Sean is now starting to see like man

6:45

I could have a little extra something on top of

6:47

it too and no one in this draft no one

6:49

in Draft since Lamar Jackson

6:51

has had that extra bit

6:53

than Jayden Daniels does so

6:55

I absolutely think that This

6:58

is this is big But

7:00

you mentioned something Todd you said if he

7:02

falls out of the top three That's

7:05

what it feels like the conversation is with

7:07

Jayden Daniels. Is he how high is he

7:09

gonna go? I think he could go all

7:11

the way all the way High

7:14

all the way up. Yeah, thank you. Thank you all

7:17

the way high Yeah, well you here's doing something behind

7:19

the camera. This makes me think of There

7:31

we go, I think Jayden

7:33

Dan's good go all the way up is number two so

7:37

If he's going number two The

7:39

commanders aren't gonna trade the number two pick

7:41

they identify him as their guy if

7:44

the Patriots the number three identify him or

7:46

someone else Is there a guy they're not

7:48

gonna trade if you find that quarterback you're

7:50

not trading really anything So if

7:52

he falls out of the top three, then it's

7:54

like, okay, we love him Mm-hmm. Just

7:56

how much are we willing to give up and

7:58

what Sean and George attend? And if that is anything,

8:01

you do whatever you can to get him if

8:04

he or someone you fall in love with

8:06

falls to where you can get him. Yeah,

8:08

I think it sounds great. I think that's

8:10

a great plan. I just don't know if we have enough to

8:13

give up to you and get up to four. Like that's going to take

8:15

a lot and it's

8:19

going to take a lot. And so I just

8:21

don't feel like four is realistic. It

8:23

can be done. It can be done. It's going

8:26

to set the team back even further a couple

8:28

more years. We'll have a good quarterback hopefully and

8:30

then not much else. But yeah,

8:33

I think this was more covering their bases. But if he

8:35

is there, maybe you pull

8:37

the trigger. Maybe you can make

8:39

something happen. Maybe some Walmart stock or

8:41

something. Yeah, it would be fun. If

8:43

they decide to do something crazy and

8:46

go get Jay Daniels, it would definitely

8:48

be fun. It probably wouldn't be

8:50

worth it. I think in

8:52

an alternate universe where the Broncos didn't do the

8:54

whole Russell Wilson thing and trade away all those

8:56

picks, I would be

8:58

saying right now, yeah, they're probably going to do

9:00

something crazy and go get a quarterback. But

9:03

having just done that, you

9:06

have to have learned your lesson. I

9:08

would imagine that if you're that ownership

9:10

group, you're like, wait, we're trading away

9:12

three first round picks to go get

9:14

a quarterback? No,

9:16

that is the one thing we know not to do

9:19

in this job. This is the one thing we've done

9:21

that just straight up has not worked. So that's why

9:23

I'm a little bit hesitant to say that they would

9:25

do that. It doesn't mean they won't. But that's why

9:27

I'm not sitting here saying like they are absolutely doing

9:29

something stupid to go get a quarterback. I mean, who

9:31

knows? I mean, Evil

9:33

Knievel never stopped after a crash. You

9:35

keep going for it. You

9:38

keep going for it. And see what happens. And

9:40

Evil Knievel beat Montana. Wait, what do you mean? He's from beat

9:42

Montana? Oh, he's from beat Montana. I thought he's from beat

9:44

Montana. That's what I thought. no,

9:47

no, no, no, no. I mean, it's like wait, with his motorcycle?

9:49

No, he's one of us. Wow. So

9:52

I totally see what you're saying.

10:00

Henry, but Sean

10:02

Payton wasn't involved in that Russell Wilson

10:04

trade. Ownership was not involved with the

10:07

Russell Wilson trade. They bought the team

10:09

after Russell Wilson was on the team.

10:11

Now, one of the very first things

10:13

they did as ownership was they trusted

10:15

the Broncos,

10:18

the team to give Russell Wilson that

10:20

extension, so technically they were there for

10:22

that, but the two most

10:24

important pieces of Sean Payton and ownership,

10:26

they weren't around for that Russell Wilson

10:28

one, so when they look at that,

10:30

they don't say, well, we're all for

10:33

one on trading for quarterbacks, making big

10:35

splashes. No, in fact, Greg Penner, when

10:37

talking about the Russell Wilson deal earlier

10:39

this week, he said they

10:41

made the trade for Russell Wilson, and

10:43

then he said we made the decision

10:45

to move on from Russell Wilson, so

10:48

he clearly is making

10:50

it known, and rightfully so, he was not

10:52

part of that deal. Sean Payton was not

10:54

part of that deal, so I think Sean looks

10:56

at this and he says, I'm zero for

10:58

zero on quarterbacks right now. Maybe he even

11:01

says he's one for one on Jared Studom.

11:03

50 points per game,

11:05

I'd have to disagree with that so

11:07

far, but I come away

11:09

from these owner meetings and

11:12

talking to these guys and getting some behind

11:14

the scenes stuff, more convinced that they're going

11:17

to try to make a big deal to

11:19

get their quarterback, but just the thing is,

11:21

like you said, Todd, it takes

11:23

two to tango, and their guy

11:25

has to be there in order

11:27

to make this move. Now, there's no

11:30

chance any team but the Bears gets

11:32

Caleb Williams, right? Because if they

11:34

want him, they're not going to trade

11:36

away that number one overall pick. They're

11:39

just going to take Caleb Williams, and

11:41

speaking of trades, Henry, you stumbled upon

11:43

a scenario where the Broncos

11:46

do make that big move, and I'm curious what

11:48

it looks like, and for who, after I tell

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11:58

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12:00

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12:05

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12:07

that sort of vibe Oh, did you

12:09

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12:16

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12:19

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12:21

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12:25

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right so Matt Miller dropped a

15:21

seven-round mock draft yeah right Todd

15:23

did you see what the Broncos

15:26

do in this draft in

15:29

this mock draft was it Jay reverse

15:31

again no it was not so he had

15:33

to do he hasn't seen yeah that's what I see so

15:35

the Broncos make a big trade they

15:41

do make a big trade well don't tell me

15:44

that don't tell us the terms okay but they

15:46

go from where to where 12 to 4 to draft

15:50

to Quattro to draft jade

15:52

and daniel to draft jade and then no

15:54

wait jj mccarthy

15:57

I swear to said jade and daniel's before well he

15:59

texted the wrong thing even the information that

16:01

he would have given you would have been wrong

16:03

this is not the thing with our own art

16:05

one to not read my right page yeah man

16:07

really do you

16:09

think that i just opened up love before uh...

16:12

yet over for jay mccarthy though matching okay so

16:14

read me the first three pics in the draft

16:17

kill williams obvious

16:20

jayden daniels drake may drake

16:22

great-grandma okay so what would

16:25

you get those three guys are off the board broncos

16:27

clearly fall in love with jay jay mccarthy what

16:29

do you think they trade to go for twelve four

16:33

uh... first rounder this year for

16:35

twelve uh... first

16:37

round next year so

16:39

one first round the after that

16:43

firstly second round twenty five didn't

16:46

need the second s dot there is a good to be

16:48

first round pics who i

16:51

mean i don't mean just make it sound like it's not much that's a

16:53

lot to give up yeah that

16:55

is a fun to give

16:57

up what could go wrong that's

16:59

not move no no no no no

17:01

no no no smart no it would be very very

17:03

fun it would be a lot of fun for that

17:05

to happen uh... make our draft party a

17:08

lot more fun stay tuned for the details on that uh...

17:10

but no is that smart of

17:12

course not we just lived through this like they

17:14

just traded all those pics to go get russell

17:17

wilson a guy who'd won a super bowl obviously

17:20

that didn't work out trading all this stuff i

17:23

i know it doesn't never work but

17:25

it feels like it just doesn't work

17:28

but it feels like you're cheating the system but

17:30

it's the exact same time like pax

17:33

and lynch didn't work with the broncos

17:35

he was a first round pic he

17:37

was tall he had a strong arm

17:39

uh... he was fast had every physical

17:41

tool you could imagine and

17:44

that not working out to the catastrophic

17:46

extent that it didn't i think scared

17:48

john elway so far away from ever

17:50

drafting a guy like that and

17:53

i think was a big reason why they did not

17:56

josh alan and the draft instead they

17:58

went with a much safer

18:00

pick, still a very good player with Bradley

18:03

Chubb at five, but I think John said

18:05

I didn't work with Paxton, I can't risk

18:07

it again here, you can't live that

18:09

way. Now if you see like

18:11

the exact same red flags with the person,

18:13

then you say yeah, okay, like this guy's

18:15

not going to study as much as a

18:17

quarterback is needed to, then of course you

18:19

put those dots together, but just because one

18:22

guy in a similar situation doesn't work out,

18:24

doesn't mean another guy in

18:26

a similar situation isn't going to work out either, that

18:28

can't scare you away. No, not forever, at some point

18:30

you got to pull the trigger again, but

18:33

for this specific trade I don't

18:35

do it because it costs too much, and as

18:37

we've seen like once you lose those first and

18:39

second rounders, picks, they're

18:41

gone. Like you

18:43

can't take them back, you can't take them back, especially you

18:46

thinking for agency

18:48

we might be able to trade our best players, maybe get

18:50

a second round, we've learned through this year you can have

18:53

quality players, former

18:55

first round draft picks, put them on

18:57

open market, you're not getting anywhere near

18:59

that first second round again, so once

19:01

you trade them away, they're gone. So

19:04

I think that's too much to give up, that's three

19:06

potential players or two more potential players that we can

19:08

have that are first rounders that we won't be able

19:10

to have on our roster. Yeah, and I

19:13

mean you go through the quarterbacks

19:15

who teams have traded up for,

19:17

I think I got banned from the chat

19:19

again, it costs three firsts and a third for the

19:21

49ers to get from 12

19:25

to 3 to get Trey Lance, that

19:28

was the most recent. In 2018 there was a

19:30

big deal for the Jets to trade up with

19:32

the Colts to get Sam Darnold, the

19:35

Bears gave up, I guess

19:37

that's a first two seconds

19:39

and a third I believe to

19:41

get up for Mitchell Trubisky, before

19:44

that it was Jared Goff, before that it was

19:47

Carson Wentz, before that it was RG3,

19:49

before that it was Eli Manning, which worked but that

19:52

was when Eli said he wasn't going to play there

19:54

anyway. Trade up for Michael Vick,

19:57

that one worked but we're talking about more than 20 years

19:59

ago now. so we look at the rarely

20:01

work it but i've almost never worked late depends

20:03

on what you want to call jerry golf i

20:05

would say you trade them

20:07

away so obviously that one to move in

20:10

my mind did not work either as

20:12

we got them up breaking broncos news on

20:14

the right now i was just able to

20:17

confirm that the broncos are wait what you

20:19

say oh no because i don't i don't

20:21

think you never know how this is going

20:23

to go the bronco signing

20:26

wide receiver josh reynolds to

20:28

a two-year deal up to

20:30

fourteen million dollars

20:33

a max value of fourteen million

20:35

dollars broncos not have their second highest

20:37

paid wide receiver on the team still

20:39

not over at ten mark is still

20:41

not over the ten mark yeah and

20:43

like turning on the exact same price

20:46

per year as brandon jones yeah

20:48

yeah josh is now like the

20:50

highest paid broncos free agent signing

20:52

this year when the crazy thing

20:54

is so

20:57

in jerry judy leaves everybody was like all

20:59

the drops the drops the drops so

21:01

you bring in the guy who made the

21:03

two with the two or three massive drops

21:05

in the nfc championship game like right across

21:07

the middle now

21:10

i think i think he's a good player but that

21:12

i mean obviously when you think josh reynolds the first

21:14

day it comes to mind is oh

21:17

shit he just lost the line as the championship game

21:19

now i mean if you lose the broncos championship game

21:21

they obviously took a big step in the right direction

21:23

but that's not true i don't

21:25

love that that's a the first thing that

21:27

comes to mind yeah

21:32

so what he's i would

21:34

think of him as a thought guy he's listed

21:36

six three which which

21:38

is a big is a big stock i

21:40

and maybe he plays more outside than i

21:43

remember but for all that stuff across

21:45

the middle that that should be

21:47

like his wheelhouse like that's what he's there

21:49

for uh... again i can't

21:53

forget those troughs they have a massive championship

21:55

game right across the middle but he was

21:57

wide open he was wide open um...

22:00

He would have been what, their number two receiver?

22:03

I mean, La Porta, Tight End, you

22:06

put him in front of them. But yeah,

22:08

St. Brown, we've been the number one

22:10

Reynolds short possession guy. I

22:13

almost, I've almost said the Broncos should get him so

22:15

many times. Like I did that mock off season. What

22:17

is he talking about? He has a good guy, boy.

22:19

But no, he just said all he could think about

22:21

was the drops and now he's saying he was pushing

22:23

for the Broncos. No, I was not pushing for them

22:25

and the drops were kind of why. But

22:28

it's needed. Are you pushing for them or no? No,

22:31

but I do see, I mean. When did he

22:33

say 30 seconds? I was almost to the lowest

22:35

number of dealers. I see why you would want

22:37

a guy like that because you know we talked

22:39

about like Tyler Boyd, for example, one of

22:41

those slot type receivers is kind of like

22:43

the one piece that's missing. Josh

22:46

Reynolds, probably

22:48

the best one left on the market,

22:50

almost definitely. As

22:53

he says about the drops, shit happens, man. Didn't

22:56

want to drop them, shit happens. Yeah,

22:58

I think it feels a need for the Broncos. They definitely

23:00

needed a wide receiver. We talked about it yesterday on the show,

23:03

the top five needs for the Denver Broncos.

23:05

And one of them was wide receiver. We thought

23:08

that they could maybe fill it in the draft, but I think

23:10

having a little bit more of a veteran player

23:12

coming in to help whoever this rookie quarterback is

23:15

is probably a better move. So

23:17

it's necessary. So I'm glad they made a move in

23:19

that room. Yeah. And like

23:21

we said, like my bad, like we said, like I think that

23:24

TP and Marvie Mims and Court

23:26

Lunt Sutton is a good starting three.

23:29

But I think just with new guys coming

23:31

in to new roles, expanded roles, guys coming

23:33

back from injury, I think you need one

23:35

more to kind of shore up that group.

23:37

To me, this makes me question if

23:40

Court Lunt Sutton's future is with the

23:43

Broncos here, because

23:45

right now the Broncos have like four guys

23:48

with Josh Reynolds that should absolutely

23:50

be on the field often

23:54

in a game. They're not going to

23:56

be able to do that with these four guys.

23:58

Now maybe this is a big. Maybe

24:01

this shows that Tim Patrick,

24:03

they're really worried about his injuries with

24:06

back-to-back season ending injuries, not playing a

24:08

snap of football and like over 700

24:10

days actually on a game field. And

24:12

that's totally fair. But this either shows

24:15

me that they're not that confident in

24:17

Tim Patrick being able to be that

24:19

guy, understandably so. So again, after not

24:21

playing football in 700

24:24

days or that they

24:26

want to move on or see an opportunity

24:28

where they could move on from Courtland Sutton.

24:30

Because when I look at this wide receiver

24:33

room, Josh Reynolds making up to $7 million

24:35

a year, he's going to be on your

24:37

football team. He's going to have a big

24:39

role. Marvin Mims going to have a big

24:41

role as well. So those are two guys

24:43

that are like staples. And then

24:45

it's kind of between Tim and Courtland. Maybe

24:47

with Tim taking a big pay cut to

24:49

be on the team this year, they're okay

24:51

having him as their fourth wide receiver. But

24:53

I think this gives the Broncos a lot

24:55

of flexibility in terms of potentially if they

24:58

get the right deal being willing to move

25:00

on from Courtland Sutton here. And then in

25:02

the end, you would save money by signing

25:05

Josh Reynolds and moving on from Courtland Sutton. Man,

25:07

that's tough. I didn't see it that way. I

25:10

guess I didn't want to see it that way. I was hoping

25:12

that it was more of a buffer for TP coming back. And

25:15

then also Marvin Mims, I think people don't understand how tough

25:17

it is to be a returner and

25:19

then start as a wide receiver.

25:22

It takes a lot of

25:24

energy running back kicks, then to line up and

25:26

try to go 10 plays. Or after that, you're

25:28

going to be winded. So not a lot of

25:30

receivers, starting receivers are the starting kicker, punt returner

25:32

for that reason. So I thought it was a

25:34

good buffer to have Marvin Mims taking a few

25:36

plays off. Or if he wants to start, him

25:38

and TP can kind of switch off if they're

25:40

going to have TP play more slot. But

25:43

if this is bad news for Courtland, I

25:47

don't love the signing, just for what Courtland

25:49

has done. But

25:51

we'll have to see. If they

25:53

get rid of Courtland, they can't have a rookie quarterback. You

25:55

just can't do that. This group would not be good enough.

26:00

saying, you know, go

26:02

try to win some games but also we're drafting a

26:05

quarterback next year? Sure. Like you can

26:07

throw Stidum out there with Josh Reynolds, Tim Patrick and

26:09

Marvin Mims and just whatever happens

26:11

happens. But, I mean,

26:14

Josh Reynolds has made some plays, has

26:18

two 600 yard seasons in his career. It's an

26:20

eight year career. It's 6-0-8 last year. Five touchdowns,

26:22

best mark of his career. Like not a bad

26:24

player by any means, but I mean

26:27

he hasn't caught 50 catches in any

26:29

of, or yeah, caught 50 balls in any of the last

26:31

four years. Like you have that, you've

26:34

got Tim Patrick who at his peak is

26:36

more productive than Josh Reynolds but it's been

26:38

a couple years obviously. Marvin Mims has

26:41

to kind of show that he's worthy of playing

26:43

time. And so even

26:46

if you're really high on Marvin Mims, even if you're high

26:48

on Tim Patrick and expect a career year from him, even

26:50

if you expect a career year from Josh Reynolds, you're

26:53

still not looking at a group that's,

26:56

I mean, top 20 in the

26:58

NFL probably. And if

27:00

you put a rookie quarterback in that situation, it's

27:03

just not going to work. This to me, this

27:05

is a good contract for Josh Reynolds. Like you

27:07

said, Henry, last year coming

27:09

off his best, arguably his best

27:11

season, 40 catches, 608 yards, started 13

27:15

games, played in all 17. Five touchdowns, $7

27:18

million. That's a pretty solid contract. Clearly

27:21

the Broncos have a vision for

27:23

him. And I just think one

27:25

of the things we talked about

27:27

on the show is you want

27:29

to have some flexibility. You don't want

27:31

to have to feel like you're pressured to

27:34

do certain things going into a draft. Now

27:36

I think this gives them flexibility with not,

27:38

definitely not needing to draft a wide receiver

27:40

now, but also the flexibility of if someone

27:42

comes with a good enough offer for Courtland

27:44

Sutton making a move there, I just don't

27:46

see them making a move with Tim Patrick,

27:49

with Marvin Mins, with Brandon

27:51

Johnson. I think that that's the guy that

27:53

could now be moved from here, but

27:55

it's not like they now need to force him out because

27:57

they just gave a wide receiver $20 million now. have

28:00

to save money. But I

28:02

think this gives them the flexibility, which is key.

28:06

Really quick, give this an initial

28:08

grade, this signing a grade. I

28:15

wanna say B. Yeah. I

28:17

think he's a solid player, I think he's the Office of Weapon,

28:19

which we need. So I'm gonna give it a B and see

28:21

how it shakes out. Yeah. Yeah,

28:24

I'll give it a B. I

28:26

think so, yeah, B's good. I'll go B minus, I

28:28

think it's really close. It's

28:30

just a decent amount of change to pay him. So

28:33

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Join you and get back to talk to some real

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30:47

mean there's no better person to have

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on to break down the Broncos new

30:51

signing Then you

30:53

Broncos just agreed to terms with

30:55

wide receiver Josh Reynolds, of course

30:57

formerly Alliance Wide receiver.

31:00

What are the Broncos getting with Josh Reynolds?

31:03

Well, hopefully he won't do what he did Yeah

31:09

Josh Reynolds been I mean look you go back to

31:11

these days with the Rams He's

31:14

a big receiver that I think

31:17

more of a possession guy than a guy

31:19

that's just gonna take it to the house But

31:21

I mean a guy that has a lot of experience in

31:23

this league has worked with a number of you know

31:25

Really good quarterbacks, you know Jack whether it's

31:27

Jared Goff that he was with them with

31:29

the Rams with him in Detroit right here

31:31

He worked a lot of good coordinators Most

31:35

recently Ben Johnson, they really

31:37

liked him in Detroit a great deal But

31:39

you know, they've got some young guys that they

31:41

just need, you know They're they're stealing reps from

31:44

some of these Jameson Williams though some of these

31:46

type of players I'm on Ross

31:48

ain't Brown. So, you know, he's available. So

31:50

look after you trade Jerry Judy away. I

31:53

mean there's a need for receivers

31:55

period And

31:57

you have limited draft picks you better go find

32:00

guy that has some experience right now. You

32:02

know it's pretty obvious that the Broncos are gonna go with

32:04

the quarterback first round in

32:06

the draft they need one. How do you

32:08

feel about this supporting cast via the wide

32:10

receivers tight ends running backs? Do you feel

32:13

like it's a good group for a young

32:15

quarterback to come in and win with? Well

32:17

I think you know Javante will be two

32:19

years removed from that injury, Jalil, like I

32:21

think they got some backs. You

32:24

know the center position is still a position

32:26

of need I believe after losing Cushing Berry.

32:28

But the offense line should be pretty good.

32:33

No I think it's okay I

32:35

don't think it's elite at this

32:37

point. I think like that when

32:39

you look around what Kansas City

32:41

has, what the Raiders have, what

32:43

the Chargers maybe might

32:45

have. I don't think it's it's

32:48

what you would want to go win a division but

32:51

I think I think it's

32:53

serviceable at this point. Cortland you

32:55

know the tight end trotmen, the tight ends, the

32:57

backs. I think it's okay. The

33:00

Broncos are meeting with Jaden Daniels today when he's done

33:02

with his pro day. Is that something

33:04

that we should get excited about hearing or

33:06

is that just them doing their due diligence?

33:09

Do people know that he won the

33:11

Heisman? Do they even know? I

33:13

feel like people mention Jaden Daniels

33:15

like, oh hell shoot. They forget

33:17

the type of year that this

33:20

kid just had. He

33:22

was sensational. I don't know

33:24

you know it's hard to believe that

33:26

he would ever be there at 12. Like

33:29

I think the Broncos got to be super aggressive

33:31

in order to go get Jaden Daniels. If that's

33:34

a guy that they covet. He's

33:36

got a unique skill set. I mean he

33:38

is an elite runner. He's kind of a narrow frame

33:40

guy but you know Malik

33:43

Nabors did lead LSU

33:46

in a university that has

33:48

a lot of great in a history of great receivers.

33:50

He's the all-time leading receiver. Well he wouldn't have

33:52

done it without Jaden Daniels. So he's

33:56

an elite talent. He

33:59

looks like... He sort of pre-determines

34:01

to run more than

34:03

you want, but when he does run, he's

34:05

just one of those guys that

34:08

could go a long, long ways. And

34:10

he's very elusive. He's a great runner, but he's

34:12

also a great thrower. And

34:16

you got to talk to all these guys, though. You

34:18

just do. There's probably six guys that

34:20

all could be first-round type players in this

34:22

draft. You have to

34:25

talk to them all. Yeah, and Baldy, you mentioned

34:27

he's not going to be there at 12. I totally agree

34:29

with you. And the closer we

34:31

get to the draft, unsurprisingly, quarterbacks just

34:33

keep going up everyone's board. And

34:36

now it seems like there might be four

34:38

quarterbacks taken in the first six picks. So

34:40

if Sean Payton falls in love with one

34:42

of these guys, is it smart to trade

34:44

up and give away future draft capital to

34:46

go get one of these guys if Sean

34:48

likes them? Or do you think the Broncos

34:50

are in a position where they need to

34:53

build the team around a quarterback first? Well,

34:55

Sean Payton would even be there in Denver if,

34:58

you know, back seven years ago, he

35:00

drafted Patrick Mahomes, you know, when

35:02

he was sitting there at 11 before

35:05

Kansas City went from 24 to 10

35:07

to go get him. He'd still be in New Orleans.

35:09

They probably would have a couple more Super Bowls, too.

35:11

So he knows he's like, that's never

35:14

going to go away from Sean

35:16

Payton. So he knows if there's

35:18

a guy that he feels like, and

35:21

that year there was obviously a lot of other

35:23

quarterback stuff. Went through risky. You

35:25

know, he's going

35:28

to do his very best not to let something like

35:30

that happen again. If he thinks one

35:33

of these guys is

35:35

anywhere near what Mahomes is, or he

35:37

feels like I can get what

35:39

I believe is the best quarterback. Now, you can't

35:42

get Caleb. You can't get to one. And

35:44

Chicago's not going to trade either. But, you know,

35:46

I don't know. Can you get

35:48

to four and get your guy? Can

35:53

you get to Arizona? Can

35:55

you talk to, you know, the doing

35:57

the Patriots at this point? I mean, I'm not sure.

36:00

But I think you probably have to get inside

36:03

the top five to get a

36:05

guy that he thinks is something

36:08

close to my home. We

36:10

talked about the Broncos potentially getting to that

36:12

fourth pick in the draft and how much

36:15

would cost them. Potentially three first round draft

36:17

books. And with us not already not having

36:19

a second this year, do you feel like it's too much

36:21

to give up? It'll hurt the team in the long term?

36:23

Or do you feel like it's what they need to do

36:25

as an organization? If

36:29

it's the guy, then it's never too

36:31

much. If it's the guy,

36:33

if they get, whether it's Jayden or Drake

36:35

or whatever it might be, if it's the

36:37

guy, it's not too much. Because

36:40

he's going to make everybody else in that roster better. And

36:43

while you might not be able to get

36:45

elite blue chippers for the next couple years,

36:47

you can begin building around your

36:50

quarterback. The money isn't going to be

36:52

as bad as it is this year

36:54

in free agency. You

36:56

know, you just have to be very, very good. But

36:58

the Rams last first round pick

37:00

was Jared Gompa 2016. Well

37:03

they've been a two Super Bowls since then. And

37:08

without first round picks because of whether

37:10

it's Jayden, Rams, these guys that they

37:12

had coveted, they

37:14

still were able to draft really well in

37:17

the fifth round, in the third round. They

37:19

hit on a lot of draft picks. So

37:21

it just puts the pressure on you to hit on

37:23

your picks. And that's what it

37:25

will do to George Payton right now. You

37:28

know, with the eight picks that they have, you better hit on

37:30

those guys. You know, the Broncos

37:32

have the 12th pick, but the Raiders have the

37:34

13th pick right behind them. And the

37:36

Raiders, I guess, address their quarterback issue a little

37:38

bit with Gardner Minshu, but that's not really a

37:40

long-term solution. Which team do you

37:43

think is more likely to jump up and try to draft a

37:45

quarterback in the top 10? I

37:48

think the Broncos. Yeah. Because the Broncos,

37:50

you know, under roster right now, Jared Stidham,

37:53

Arnold Ben-Dinucci's there. It

37:55

doesn't matter. Like, they got a guy. You know, guys. You

38:01

better get yourself a guy. And you

38:03

know, there's the carousel of these quarterbacks,

38:05

like it's just, it stopped. And

38:08

so they better get their guy.

38:10

I think more than what the Raiders, you

38:13

know, have to do. They, Aiden Hutchins started a

38:15

lot of games last year. They got Gardner and

38:17

Menchoo. I don't think they feel

38:19

nearly as, I don't know if desperate's

38:21

the right word, but I

38:23

think the Broncos are a lot

38:25

more motivated to get a quarterback

38:27

early than what the Raiders are right now.

38:30

Yeah, and the Broncos haven't made any moves

38:32

at the quarterback position this offseason. They were

38:34

involved in kind of a couple free

38:37

agents, but didn't land any of them. But

38:39

they did make a couple of moves in

38:41

free agency, going with Brandon Jones at safety.

38:43

And then Malcolm Roach, the awesome thing about

38:46

you is, Baldy, you break down film more

38:48

than anyone else. What type of guys are

38:50

the Broncos getting with those two guys? Well,

38:52

Malcolm Roach is, you know, he's an interior

38:55

defensive lineman. Defense tackle is hard to move.

38:59

He started for the Saints this year. You know,

39:01

I mean, Sean, I think just

39:03

Sean subscribes to, you know, it's the

39:05

devil you know is better than the devil you don't know. And

39:08

all these guys, little Jordan Humphrey

39:10

and Malcolm Roach, guys that he knows

39:13

has been around. I

39:15

think that's a big, you know, deal right

39:17

now for Sean Payton. So

39:19

go collect some guys, Trotman, get

39:22

some of these guys. You know, you look at what

39:24

they're doing at safety right now, signing PJ

39:26

and going get, you know, Brandon

39:28

Jones. You

39:31

know, I think that's, you

39:33

know, they're trying to solidify some positions right

39:35

now with what they have. You know,

39:37

you lose Josie Jewell, go get Cody Barton, he

39:39

started games this way. You're just trying to plug

39:42

holes right now and just trying to line up

39:44

with 22, you know, first

39:46

week of the season or whenever

39:48

minicamp begins. Like, give me

39:50

22 starters right now that we can line

39:52

up and play with. You know,

39:55

it really seems like the Broncos are going

39:57

quarterback in the first round, but if they

39:59

don't, or even. Even if, you know, Bo Nix is

40:01

the top guy on the board at 12 and they don't trade

40:03

up, should they be tempted just to

40:05

go after, like, a Brock Bowers or somebody who

40:07

seems like they could be a pretty special talent

40:09

who's on the board still at 12 instead of

40:12

drafting, maybe reaching for a Bo Nix there? Well,

40:16

I mean, I think if you, if Sean Payton was in

40:18

this conversation with us right now, I'd say, I don't ever

40:20

want to pick number 12 again. I never want to be

40:23

that high in the draft. So whatever

40:25

they do at 12, whether it's quarterback or a

40:27

tight end like you spent, there's a lot of

40:29

great receivers in this draft, there's some excellent edge

40:31

rusher's positions of needs for this

40:33

Broncos team. Like you can't

40:35

miss. You have to

40:37

hit. Like, because if you miss, if

40:41

you miss, the

40:44

need never goes away. All you're trying

40:46

to do is just, you know, find the

40:48

next guy at tight end

40:50

or edge rusher or quarterback if you miss

40:52

and it sets you back and it

40:54

puts you, you know, you go to free

40:57

agency overspent to find

40:59

that position. So whatever they

41:01

do, they have

41:03

to hit big. They need an

41:05

impactful player at quarterback, tight end,

41:07

receiver. They need an impactful

41:09

player at that position this year.

41:13

The talent on this roster right now

41:15

says they need to upgrade the talent.

41:17

That's what first round picks typically do for them.

41:20

So then speaking of that, my last one for you,

41:22

Baldy, is put quarterbacks to the

41:24

side right now. Who is

41:26

the best non-quarterback in this draft, in

41:28

your opinion? Well

41:34

I think Dallas Turner is a great player. I

41:37

think there's some great offensive tackles in

41:40

this draft. J.C. Latham

41:43

looks like he could play right tackle in this league

41:45

for a long, long time. And

41:48

you'd be really set there for a long time.

41:51

Dallas Turner looks to

41:53

me like the best

41:55

pass rusher in this draft, but you know, Laitu,

41:58

I mean there's guys there at that position. I

42:01

love Quinn, Jan Mitchell, but

42:04

you know, you could say, Terry,

42:07

you know, Arnold at Alabama, you

42:10

could stack these corners up pretty good. Wiggins,

42:13

but I would say if I had to list

42:15

one guy right now, I'd say Dallas Turner

42:18

looks like he's gonna be a good player

42:20

right away in this draft. I love it.

42:22

I love the inside ball. He's so pumped to

42:25

have you back on. And we look forward to

42:27

getting more insight with you next

42:29

week. Let's

42:31

keep talking guys. We got 29 days

42:33

to the draft. A lot of things are gonna happen in

42:35

between now and next week. Let's

42:38

come together and just break it down. Let's do

42:40

it. I love it. Thank you so much,

42:42

Baldy. We'll talk to you soon. Man, Baldy

42:45

with some awesome insight and a

42:47

little preview into what we're talking

42:49

about next. You mentioned JC Latham's

42:51

name and let's get into our

42:54

March madness. But before we do, one

42:56

of the things I took from that, he

42:58

thinks Sean's gonna trade up and go and

43:01

get his guy. It's what I took from

43:03

that. He doesn't necessarily say that, but Patrick

43:05

Mahomes in a way, not Patrick Mahomes in

43:07

the division, but missing out on Patrick Mahomes

43:09

being one spot away from drafting Patrick Mahomes

43:12

is gonna sit with Sean for a

43:14

long time until he's able to get

43:17

his guy. And Mahomes obviously has special

43:19

traits. And man, we're talking about Jaden

43:21

Daniels today. So maybe he's just on

43:23

top of my head, but special traits, Jaden

43:26

Daniels has got him. Yeah, he's got everything you

43:28

want as

43:30

a quarterback in the league nowadays, his

43:32

ability to run and the

43:35

accuracy on the run, I feel like is amazing. Deep

43:39

threat, I think he's a talented player. If

43:42

he's available, I think we should get him. Three

43:44

first, I'm not sure. But if

43:46

he's there, I think we should get him. Yeah, I'm

43:48

four first. Ah. That

43:50

is crazy. First in

43:53

the country in yards for Kerry, first in the

43:55

country in passer rating. Andy won

43:57

the Heisman. Kind of sums it all up right

43:59

there. Like one more time. Could you want yeah, he wasn't

44:01

playing at Montana the most overrated conference in the

44:03

country No,

44:06

they said Bama Georgia

44:09

yeah, they always have like the top team

44:11

and because that's got staggered in the Heisman winner.

44:13

Yeah. Yeah No, they're the highest Where's

44:16

guess who had the Heisman winner the year before so they

44:18

have the best play in the NFL They have the best

44:20

coaches in the NFL. They have I

44:22

guess place to Who's

44:24

the best player in the NFL? Oh, I'm sorry. They

44:26

have the best play in college. Oh Okay, I was

44:28

like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Texas Tech not

44:30

in the SEC. Yeah Yeah, I'm gonna say that no,

44:32

you're right. I guess they didn't have

44:34

the best team though last year. That was Michigan that

44:37

was Harbaugh and Harbaugh

44:40

looks very smart

44:42

now with To the

44:44

glasses was it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Was

44:47

it? Oh, he did get old Was

44:53

it two months ago He said that JJ McCarthy's the

44:55

best quarterback in the draft and the teams will realize

44:57

that once they get to spend time with him Now

45:00

he's getting buzzes the number two pick in the draft

45:02

now so he's probably not gonna look

45:05

right as truly the number one quarterback because that's

45:07

gonna be Caleb Williams, but Harbaugh

45:10

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watched sports you didn't even know Cartoon Network I

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knew spongebob, but you go by

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news But

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you don't want any like kid you know I'm

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saying TV cartoons rocket

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a little bit You

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just meant to be a reporter you know

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I was told I look like Jimmy Neutron

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with the way my hair was back in

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The day so I know who Jimmy Neutron

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is Everybody

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watch you mean Tiny bit but like

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I couldn't tell you anyone's name in

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that show did you do what or

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literally sports? That's

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crazy love like like you get home from

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school at 3 o'clock. There's no sports on

48:13

oh, there's uh there's uh Yeah,

48:15

there's Shows on ESPN okay,

48:17

okay Take you into sports so no Saturday

48:20

morning with a bowl of cereal and just

48:23

and sports. Yeah, no all that I

48:27

None of that this is crazy like that we

48:29

did I watched Chuck last night

48:31

with Lexi Did you never seen a first episode? Yeah,

48:34

she fell asleep? Oh Wow

48:37

Yeah, there was a lot of what you happen. Oh, no. No.

48:40

I love that show Yeah, I just thought I mean I knew

48:42

it was gonna be tough because like it

48:44

was made in 2007 Yeah, and

48:47

that now looks very different like when there's

48:49

a fiery explosion. It's like okay Okay

48:53

But yeah, so I don't

48:55

think we're watching episode 2, but I'm gonna do my best You

48:57

know what it's because you went to a sporting event first Yeah,

49:00

wow. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, that was

49:02

yeah. That was a sad one Yeah,

49:05

it was what'd you say minus 415? Yeah?

49:07

No, they were heavy heavy favors. Oh that

49:09

is a bummer Yeah, maybe they'll bounce back

49:11

tomorrow. Yeah, maybe it's a dog Potentially

49:14

we'll see well we'll follow I know if they would

49:16

have won last night tomorrow would have been for first

49:18

place in the NHL But they

49:20

blew it damn against a

49:23

terrible terrible team and they won nine in a

49:25

row before that Yeah, so

49:27

now I'm yeah Hope we're talking about the Broncos

49:29

like this soon like man They

49:31

just lost to the Detroit

49:33

Lions and if they would have

49:35

beat them They would have been first in the NFL

49:38

now They have to settle for second and now they're

49:40

nine and one in their past They

49:42

would have been going to the

49:44

Super Bowl, but Josh Reynolds The

49:46

first reaction from Baldy on Josh

49:48

Reynolds the exact same as you

49:50

Henry Yeah, I mean that's what

49:52

he did that's like of all

49:54

the notable things in his career

49:56

those drops way up here Everything

49:58

else which is being like a really solid football player

50:00

down here. Gosh, what's crazy? It's just tough and

50:02

it's like the opposite of Von Miller. Like

50:05

you go talk to like, you go to

50:07

some random old lady in Ohio and just

50:09

be like, hey, what's up with Von Miller?

50:11

Oh, the sacks and that Super Bowl. Like

50:13

that's the opposite of that. It's

50:15

like you just made the mistakes in those moments, which

50:18

it's just tough to get around. Well it's just

50:21

what he's done lately. You know what I'm saying?

50:23

That's true. When he comes in nature, if he

50:25

has like a hundred yard game, you

50:27

know, 12 catches, I think,

50:29

you know, you'll forget all that stuff quickly. It

50:31

was just the last thing on tape was those

50:34

drops in the, you know what I'm saying? It's

50:36

tough. Well, unfortunately, Henry, if Josh

50:38

Reynolds doesn't have any hundred yard games, he fits

50:40

right in with this Broncos receiving room. Do none

50:42

of them have a hundred yard game? One.

50:46

One hundred yard receiving game last year. Oh

50:48

last year, okay. Marvin Mims. Yeah,

50:50

Courtland does in the past, but

50:52

that is insane. He

50:55

has 96. He has 96, 94, 92. Wait,

50:58

was that last year or his entire career? 2022, he

51:00

had 96 and 92. 2020

51:04

at 94. Can

51:06

we please bring someone in that has a

51:08

hundred yard receiving game? Those guys are expensive.

51:10

I wonder how many Courtland has. That

51:15

is, I wonder how many Courtland has. Hundreds

51:17

a lot. His Pro Bowl

51:20

year. Or ever. Are

51:23

you pulling it up right now? Yeah, it's just a little slow because there's

51:25

a lot of loading. He's played a lot

51:27

of games. Yeah. Oh, yes. And

51:30

a halfway. Yes. Okay. Now

51:33

just sort by yards. So he

51:35

had 159 against the Jags in 2021. He

51:40

had 122 against Houston in 2022. He

51:44

had 120 against the Raiders in 2019, 120 against the Steelers in

51:46

2021 and 113 against the

51:53

Vikings in 2019. I bet you

51:55

those were all with different quarterbacks. Oh,

51:57

probably. Yeah, it's a great point.

52:00

You mentioned a couple in 2021 and I think two in 2022 Yeah

52:07

2019 to in 2019 to in 2021 to in 2022. So no one in 2022 I

52:13

was counting 22 would be the time that he

52:15

would have the same quarterback, but he only had

52:17

one that year So you're probably right Todd. It's

52:19

crazy. That is wild. That is wild Maybe he'll

52:21

rack up a couple this year with Jaden

52:24

Daniels as a starting quarterback and if you

52:26

don't 200, oh, there we go

52:29

I absolutely love it and I love

52:32

March Madness not just with college basketball,

52:34

but with our Brackets

52:36

and of course we are almost

52:38

done with the first round I

52:40

think we've got two more matchups

52:42

left in the first round But

52:44

want to update you on what

52:47

happened yesterday with our brackets you

52:49

guys broke down some cornerbacks yesterday

52:51

Terry and Arnold and Quinn yon

52:53

Mitchell who guys both both guys

52:55

that Baldy likes and Terry

52:57

and Arnold dominated with

53:02

72% of the vote so he moves on

53:05

Alabama player stays in this

53:07

and speaking of Alabama and

53:10

our next matchup Who do we have here?

53:12

Yeah here. We've got

53:14

Oh FUAGA and J.C Latham

53:17

FUAGA Oregon State Offensive

53:20

tackle and then J.C. Latham Allah

53:22

or not or Oregon

53:24

State by the Florida State and

53:26

then Alabama tackle J.C Latham so

53:28

we got a little tackle on

53:30

tackle or is it guard on

53:32

guard battle going on here? J.C.

53:35

Latham is definitely a tackle that

53:38

one you're confident about FUAGA

53:40

is the one who could be moving inside the

53:42

guard Latham

53:44

just has like the best parts of everything that

53:46

you could want you know he's like he's what

53:49

6'6 3 42 right? He

53:51

he so like he's built like a

53:53

massive guard, but Plenty mobile

53:56

enough to play tackle with FUAGA He's

53:59

also he's like 6'6, 3'20 or something

54:01

like that. So like big dude

54:03

of course just not quite as big and probably

54:05

a little more likely to move inside the guard

54:08

just because of the feet

54:11

maybe not so quick. Like maybe has a little bit

54:13

tougher time staying in front of Edgerushes. Both of them

54:15

I think probably stick-and-tackle. But

54:18

to me Latham is... Latham

54:21

is a guy who you're saying like this

54:23

could be just an all-pro freak like Larry

54:25

Allen guy. With

54:28

Fuega you're saying like hey we just got our right

54:30

tackle for a long time and that's a

54:32

great guy to have. Yeah I'm right there with

54:35

you. I think this is a very obvious one

54:37

here because I do think

54:39

it's Latham. I agree with you I think

54:41

he is a tackle. Some people say he's

54:43

like almost an immediate pro bowl guard if

54:45

a team decides to move them inside but

54:47

if you have the chance to get like

54:50

a 10-year starting tackle you do that in

54:52

a heartbeat. And there's also a lot of people

54:54

that believe that he is the best tackle in

54:56

this class and that's impressive because this is

54:58

a really good tackle class. Joe Alt. I

55:01

mean there's like five guys that could go in the top

55:03

15 year and none of them

55:05

would be Reaches but I think J.C. Latham

55:07

is right at the top. Maybe you think

55:09

he's number two behind Alt. Maybe you think

55:11

his upside is more than Joe Alt. So

55:14

to me this is an easy little upset. The number

55:16

10 seed I think you go J.C. Latham here. Todd

55:19

what are your thoughts? You know I'm not gonna go

55:22

against the grain with this one. I think

55:24

he's uh I think you can't go wrong.

55:26

Yeah two tackles two top-tier tackles and as

55:29

you know in the NFL they're definitely needed.

55:32

Usually get paid well because they're because they're great players so

55:34

I don't think you could go wrong with either one of

55:36

those guys so I'll go with the

55:38

majority here. When it comes to the Broncos though we

55:40

had to we have to pick a winner for this

55:42

round. I just don't know if

55:45

tackle makes a whole lot of sense unless

55:47

for some reason the Broncos decide to move

55:50

on from Garibolds and it just wouldn't make sense to

55:52

do that now you probably would have done that when

55:54

you moved on from Justin Simmons. So

55:57

it doesn't make sense to draft a guy at 12. makes

56:00

sense to draft a guy in the third round

56:02

or the fourth round or the fifth round and

56:04

have him develop a year behind Garrett Boles. This

56:06

is Garrett's last year of his contract, so he

56:08

could move on after this season, but you would

56:10

get a developmental guy later in the draft, not

56:12

at 12. So I'd be surprised if Latham makes

56:14

it out of this next round depending on who

56:16

he's going up against, but right now, there

56:19

we go. In case the Broncos do

56:21

decide to move on from Garrett Boles, we did break down

56:24

J.C. Latham a little bit for you. So

56:26

we're going to pull up the 100-yard games from court. Brandon

56:29

Allen was the quarterback for one of them. Pretty

56:31

impressive. Joe Flacco was the quarterback for one of them.

56:33

Russell Wilson was the quarterback for one of them. Teddy

56:36

Bridgewater for two of them. Oh! Yeah.

56:40

He beat with the

56:42

two peaches. That is

56:45

not the stat you wanted to hear when the

56:47

Broncos traded for Russell Wilson. Like, let me tell

56:50

you this, Teddy Bridgewater is going to have more

56:52

100-yard passing games to Portland than Russell Wilson will.

56:55

Teddy, you knew something was going wrong.

56:57

That's actually wild just because of how

56:59

many incredible plays Portland made for Russ.

57:02

Yep. Mm-hmm. And it was only

57:04

100-yard game when you put it all together.

57:06

And they probably played together longer than... Yep.

57:08

Oh, for sure. Two years, yeah. Yeah. Man,

57:10

that's depressing. What's not depressing is our comments

57:12

section. Let's hop in and talk to the

57:14

people. And when we do that, hit us

57:16

with a thumbs up. We really appreciate. We

57:18

got a ton of people watching today and

57:21

not nearly enough thumbs up. A lot of

57:23

people we had you pumped. We had Baldy

57:25

on. A lot of people you've pumped that

57:27

the Broncos signed Josh Rumps as a thumbs

57:29

up to show us the support. And our

57:31

first question coming in from Opti Up,

57:33

who says, I wish the

57:35

Broncos would take the advantage of

57:38

compensatory draft picks, take chances on

57:40

a bunch of youngish players on

57:42

one-year deals who they project will

57:45

earn more next offseason. Follow the

57:47

Rams in 49ers model. Yeah,

57:50

I mean, you just

57:52

have to have good players leaving your team

57:54

to get compensatory picks. And

57:57

the way it cancels out is it's like the top 700... players

58:00

and they figure that out by a combination of how much

58:02

you play and how much you get paid and then

58:04

like Pro Bowl all pro that sort of stuff but

58:08

how many top 750 players you lose

58:10

and how many top 750 you bring in and

58:12

the Broncos just aren't losing players like they lost Lloyd

58:14

and they lost Josie this year which are two

58:17

that would qualify you would think but

58:20

when you bring in I mean I

58:22

guess you could just not bring in Brandon Jones and not

58:24

bring in I wonder if

58:27

Cody Barton is going to count I

58:29

wonder if Malcolm Roach is going

58:31

to count I wonder if today Josh Reynolds

58:34

is going to count like you

58:37

you got to be losing a lot of guys

58:39

or have so many guys in on the inside that

58:42

you don't need to replace like to

58:44

bring in young guys who aren't in that top

58:46

750 I haven't looked at the cutoff I think

58:48

it's gonna be around like getting paid like two

58:50

three million bucks you're

58:53

there just not in the position like you

58:55

just need more talent on the team you need to

58:57

be overflowing with talent to be able to be getting

58:59

that compensatory picks for them I think

59:01

this is maybe one of the first years

59:03

the Broncos are going to get compensatory picks

59:05

in a while because of losing Josie and

59:08

Lloyd to big deals but they but

59:10

they brought in these guys yeah I

59:12

don't think it's gonna add up very

59:14

much that's a trade yeah when you

59:16

have to be fired contract and it

59:18

can't be someone that you cut yeah

59:20

so Justin doesn't count unfortunately really the

59:22

thing with compensatory draft picks is you

59:25

just have to have you

59:27

have to have talent and the Broncos

59:30

haven't had talent because they haven't had draft picks and

59:32

then they haven't hit the draft picks that they

59:35

have had and so they can't let any of

59:37

their talent leave and then

59:39

so if you're not letting your talent leave you're

59:41

not gonna get those competitive story traffic so really

59:43

the Broncos just need to be better a lot

59:45

better at drafting and developing their guys and then

59:48

that's how it turns into what the 49ers have

59:50

because Broncos going on a couple of years without

59:52

compensatory picks that is not good and

59:55

yeah right now over the cap

59:57

has it has the cut off it right

59:59

about three million So they have Cody Barton

1:00:01

not counting, but they have

1:00:04

Lloyd and Josie being canceled

1:00:06

out by Malcolm Roach and Brandon

1:00:08

Jones. So they're

1:00:10

stuck. Thanks, stuck again. And

1:00:14

then last comment coming in from Edward Wright,

1:00:16

I believe he says, this

1:00:18

one's for Hank I think, what's the

1:00:20

difference between Cortland's drops and Josh Reynolds

1:00:22

drops? There's still drops. Well,

1:00:25

yeah. I

1:00:28

mean every drop is a drop. I mean, I haven't

1:00:30

gone back to the film of every drop that either

1:00:32

of them made. All I know is those

1:00:35

are two massive drops that were the reason the team didn't

1:00:37

go to the Super Bowl. I can

1:00:39

look up, I think I have it right here.

1:00:41

So they have, this

1:00:43

is Pro Football Focuses numbers. Oh,

1:00:46

so they have five drops last season,

1:00:48

including those two in the last game

1:00:51

for Reynolds, Broncos, they

1:00:53

have seven

1:00:55

for Cort, four for Gervonta, four for Jerry,

1:00:58

two for Brandon Johnson, one for Lillie Jordan

1:01:00

Humphrey. And Josh was five last year? Yeah,

1:01:02

including two at the end. So like, and

1:01:04

that's why the drops aren't like something mathematically

1:01:07

there. Is it like a

1:01:10

big game thing? Is it like a third

1:01:13

down thing? I don't know, but those two

1:01:15

were huge. Didn't, and not to downplay those,

1:01:17

but didn't like St. Brown even have a

1:01:19

massive drop in that game? There

1:01:22

was like, everyone was letting Jared Goff

1:01:24

down in that game. It was, James

1:01:27

and Williams, I think had one too, like

1:01:29

it was wild how the

1:01:31

Lions really dropped the game, dropped

1:01:34

an opportunity at the Super Bowl. And then

1:01:36

the other kind of interesting set that PFF

1:01:38

has is passer rating when targeted. I'm

1:01:41

curious to go through, because they also chart like where on the

1:01:43

field you're catching your passes and I'll go through all that stuff.

1:01:46

So this year, 117 pass rating when targeted

1:01:48

for Reynolds, 104.7 the year before. Those

1:01:54

were two years over 100. Then just

1:01:56

for reference, the Broncos, best was

1:01:58

Brandon Johnson, 140.5. Then Lil

1:02:00

Jordan 129.6, then Court 124.5, then Mims at 105, Juliel

1:02:08

103, Somaje 102, Gervonta

1:02:10

96, you can

1:02:12

have other guys down below. Oh Jerry, Jerry's notable,

1:02:14

86. So should

1:02:17

be a nice addition. See ya

1:02:19

Jerry. Maybe one of the

1:02:21

reasons they let him go. And we're

1:02:24

going to see ya tomorrow on the

1:02:26

DnVR Broncos podcast. We'll continue to break

1:02:28

down these moves. Break down where the

1:02:30

Broncos brass is. We'll

1:02:32

be visiting Drake May later this week. So we'll

1:02:34

talk about that. See if it means anything. See if it

1:02:37

means more or less. But thank you all so much for

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tuning in. Hit us with a thumbs up on your way

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1:03:45

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