0:00

What's it like being married to a

0:02

surgeon ?

0:03

Oh , lord , I have to say it is

0:05

pleasantly different

0:07

.

0:07

Okay , now for the sake of the video like why

0:09

are you putting up these pillows ? Because you never put

0:11

up these pillows . Answer the question what's

0:13

it like being married to a surgeon ?

0:15

Anyway , right now it's really annoying . Now

0:17

, personality wise , call me because

0:19

these surgeons out here they just

0:21

be . Let me tell

0:24

you , okay , the

0:26

personality doesn't change just because the

0:28

scheduling changes . So I'm like I could

0:30

do everything , I could treat everything . I don't

0:32

know why orthopedics don't want to change

0:35

, Don't ?

0:35

want to replace their potassium .

0:37

Can you deliver a baby ?

0:38

But if we need to , we can yes .

0:40

Well , if anybody needs to , they can . The cab

0:42

drivers deliver a baby knee .

0:44

I can do uber also . When did you when ?

0:45

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1:46

OB doc specialist

1:49

. Hey , Dr

1:51

Renee , how you doing , I'm fine

1:53

. How are you Host of Docs Outside the

1:55

Box ? How you doing ? Co-host

1:59

?

1:59

host , guest

2:01

host . Which am I today

2:03

? I think you are the host

2:05

.

2:06

I'm the host of Docs Outside

2:08

the Box . And you are definitely in

2:10

charge of this video right now and

2:12

I'm here . You're

2:14

here . Do you feel in charge ? Do

2:17

you feel in charge ? Because we

2:19

got some questions that people want

2:21

to know about your life as an OB

2:23

, doc , how long you been practicing

2:25

now .

2:27

Well , if you count from residency , then

2:30

almost 20 years . If

2:33

you count from residency , almost 15

2:35

years .

2:38

Okay .

2:38

Okay , do people count from residency

2:41

?

2:41

No , you're not supposed to count from residency . I think you're supposed to

2:43

count from when you finish residency how

2:46

many years you've been practicing on your own .

2:47

Well then , almost 15 years . But I

2:49

mean , come on like if you deliver babies

2:52

from the time you graduate from

2:54

medical school . I think that should count , but

2:56

whatever .

2:58

Okay , almost 15 years . Well , let's leave it to you like

3:00

this , let's get straight to the point , because I think people want to

3:02

know . So you definitely , how

3:04

you envision being an OB doc

3:06

and how you practice has definitely

3:08

changed from where you were at when

3:10

you were in residency to where

3:12

you are now . What ? Over 10 years

3:15

now , but 12 years out on your own Is

3:18

that safe to say 14 ?

3:19

years out . Thank you , you're an old head

3:21

. Okay , whatever . Yeah

3:24

, I mean it's

3:26

definitely different

3:28

. First of all , I didn't even

3:30

think I would be OB when I first

3:33

started medical school . So even

3:35

from there is like a crazy drastic

3:37

difference . But certainly

3:40

when I graduated from

3:42

residency I had already known

3:44

that my I knew that my

3:46

practice wouldn't necessarily be the

3:49

way that I think most traditional

3:52

OB practice . I just

3:54

didn't , I didn't know

3:56

quite how it was going to look . So

3:59

but yeah , I would say

4:01

I've been through the traditional OB

4:04

path , doing full

4:06

scope OB , you know , delivering babies

4:08

on call , doing seeing

4:11

patients in the office , doing

4:13

surgery . I've done all of that

4:15

. But I can definitely say

4:17

living the logan's life has

4:20

definitely been the key

4:23

to at least my

4:25

way of avoiding burnout .

4:27

Okay , All right . So I got a question for

4:29

you . Why did

4:31

you spend over 10 years in

4:34

training , Right ? So we're talking

4:36

med school residency

4:39

and you spent close

4:41

to eight years in training and you spent close

4:43

to $250,000 in

4:46

paying for college as well as medical school

4:48

and

4:52

the interest that occurred after that $330,000

4:56

, you mean . Well , when you

4:58

graduated , it was $242,000

5:01

of debt . Right , but on

5:03

the show multiple times you've talked about how you

5:05

spend your time mainly

5:08

with the kids at home

5:10

and you . You work about

5:12

a weekend a month . So why

5:14

spend all those years to train ? Why spend

5:17

all of that money to train and then spend

5:19

most of your time at home ? Answer that

5:21

, please .

5:22

Well , if I didn't

5:25

spend all that time training , I wouldn't

5:27

even be able to work that one weekend per month

5:30

to go in and deliver babies , right ? So

5:32

for me , you know

5:34

, I look at

5:36

it as I look at

5:38

it as a very

5:40

, probably very differently

5:43

from a lot of people . I think I've

5:45

told the story on the podcast before where

5:48

I had someone

5:50

say to me I didn't spend all this time

5:52

in medical school so I could be

5:54

a stay at home mom and be at home all

5:56

day . And for me I felt like

5:58

, well , I didn't become a mother so I

6:00

could spend my entire , you

6:03

know , all day long , every day

6:05

, in the hospital either . I mean I'd like to see my

6:07

kids right , so we could I mean , we

6:09

could always ask that question a different way . So

6:12

for me , it's not a question of

6:15

, you know , it's

6:17

not a question of why I spent that much

6:19

money and now I stay at home . It's

6:22

a question of how do I balance

6:24

, or find as close

6:26

as I can to balance in

6:28

my life , and that's how I find it . You

6:30

know , I have a lot of things that bring

6:32

me joy . You know , delivering babies

6:34

brings me lots of joy , but

6:36

also being home with my babies brings me

6:39

lots and lots of joy . And I got to say

6:41

, with the way that I work , even

6:44

doing one week in a month , I

6:46

mean the investment . Let

6:49

me tell you , when you do locums that

6:52

investment right there that you made to go into

6:54

medical school and accrue all

6:56

of that debt , you could you literally

6:59

could do something with

7:01

the amount of money that you're going to make in locums . So

7:04

for me , I'm like I don't . I

7:06

don't really feel like I'm losing anything . I

7:08

actually think I'm working more efficiently than

7:11

I used to when I was working

7:13

as a full

7:15

time OB , interesting , and

7:18

I'm making more money this way . So so

7:21

the question is why people work in full

7:23

time OB when you could be making as much money

7:25

as me , working one

7:27

week in a month .

7:30

Okay , okay . And how far do you

7:32

? How far when you go and work ? How

7:34

far are you ? Is this an in town type

7:37

of hospital ? Are you flying ?

7:40

No , I'm not flying these days . I'm not

7:42

flying anyway . No

7:44

, I drive about an hour and a half

7:46

away , so it's nice and close . It's

7:49

close enough for me to be able to

7:51

, you know , get my kids ready

7:53

for school that day and then

7:55

leave on the Friday

7:57

. And then , you know , work

8:00

for the weekend , leave

8:02

them in the hands of my able bodied

8:04

husband , who

8:07

will feed them all kinds of crap for the weekend

8:09

, but then I'm back by the time

8:11

they get home from school .

8:12

Calories or calories .

8:14

Calories or calories . Yeah , so

8:16

that's my good . But

8:19

yeah then I'm , you know I'm back . I'm

8:22

back in time on Monday , so

8:24

that they're home from school

8:27

and we can just start

8:29

all over again until the next month .

8:32

Now what about board certification ? You've been

8:34

able to maintain board certification . How are you able to

8:36

do that ?

8:37

Oh yeah , absolutely Well , because I have

8:39

enough experience and enough numbers

8:41

right with the way that I work . So that's not

8:43

, that's never been an issue actually . So

8:46

in the way that my board certification works

8:48

, they actually take into consideration

8:50

that you could be an OB

8:53

hospitalist . So they

8:55

ask you know , they ask certain questions

8:57

. As long as I can meet the criteria

8:59

, is this sustainable ? Then ? As

9:03

long as I can meet the criteria , then

9:05

I'm good .

9:06

So All right , let's switch , let's

9:08

pivot a little bit . What was the hardest

9:10

part of getting into medical school ?

9:13

Oh , what was the hardest

9:15

part about getting into medical school ? Honestly

9:17

, the hardest part about getting into medical school oh

9:19

, real quick .

9:20

You know what's interesting is ? This is the suitcase that you

9:22

use when you go on locos . Yes , so you're leaving tomorrow

9:24

. You're leaving tomorrow .

9:25

Yes , okay , go ahead , you're leaving tomorrow . Yes , so

9:27

that's on the floor right next to me For

9:30

those of you who are listening on the audio podcast

9:32

. I am out of breath because I'm literally

9:34

fixing a bed and I just put our

9:37

comforter inside the duvet cover

9:39

, which I ain't even know nothing about a

9:41

duvet cover until I don't even know . When

9:43

you don't do that in Brooklyn , but anyway I ain't sophisticated

9:45

like that Answer the question please . So the hardest

9:48

part about getting into medical school

9:50

was actually

9:53

finishing college . That

9:57

really was the hardest part about getting

9:59

into medical school .

9:59

I'm not going to let you off the hook on that one .

10:01

I'm going to tell you why . And

10:03

the reason is because the

10:06

class that , first of all , I

10:08

. I don't know about anybody else , but I well

10:10

no , I know about a lot of people because

10:13

of the work that I do with pre meds , but a

10:15

lot of the information

10:19

that you're supposed to know to

10:21

get into medical school , like

10:24

that pre college or the shooting , that pre

10:26

med information a lot of people

10:28

don't know , and I didn't know . So

10:30

I started as a chemistry

10:33

major in college

10:35

because I enjoyed chemistry . That

10:38

wasn't sustainable . Look at that duvet fell .

10:41

Listen to your husband .

10:43

The one time you were right Broken clock so

10:47

you got one more time to be right , damn

10:50

. So

10:53

yeah , I was a chemistry major

10:55

because I enjoyed chemistry in high school

10:57

. But what

10:59

I didn't understand is that a chemistry

11:02

major in college is a

11:04

chemistry major who is

11:06

for majors who want to do

11:09

chemistry , not people who necessarily

11:12

want to go into medical school . Because

11:14

, let me tell you , everything outside

11:16

of what I learned in high school in terms of chemistry

11:19

really wasn't anything that I was very

11:21

interested in , but I didn't

11:23

know that .

11:24

So it was very theoretical but not practical

11:27

for you .

11:28

Right , very theoretical , not

11:30

practical . You know , it was like I was

11:32

studying to be like a chemical

11:34

engineer , which I had no

11:37

interest in engineering whatsoever

11:39

. So this pile

11:42

of mess so

11:44

for me that was the hardest part was navigating

11:46

. You know , getting out of college

11:49

, because you know when you're

11:51

not interested in what you're majoring

11:53

in , one , you're going to tend to do badly

11:56

. Two , you're going to avoid your major

11:58

, which is what I ended up doing . I ended up

12:00

avoiding chemistry classes

12:02

and

12:04

you know , frankly , it just it just made for

12:07

a really bad academic experience . So

12:10

that that was a challenge .

12:12

Okay , now what about applying to medical school ? There's

12:14

a lot of people talk about hurdles

12:17

, of how expensive it is taking the MCAT

12:20

, going on interviews

12:22

like wasn't that hard , like there wasn't

12:25

anything hard about the actual process

12:27

of applying to school . Can you talk to that ?

12:29

So I didn't find that process hard

12:32

, more than I found it challenging

12:34

, which I think is I hate you .

12:35

No .

12:36

I think it's two different things . I think it's two

12:38

different things For me hard

12:41

. So when I say hard , the difference

12:43

between how I felt and how I reacted

12:45

to trying to trying to get

12:47

out of college is much different

12:50

than you know . How I

12:52

reacted , you know , when I was

12:54

applying to medical school , or even

12:56

when I failed the MCAT or not failed , but

12:58

bombed it , I should say and

13:01

that part was challenging , but

13:03

it was more exciting because

13:05

I felt like I felt like

13:07

I had more control . I actually

13:09

felt like I had more control because

13:11

I knew whether or not I was a

13:13

good candidate . You know , by that

13:15

time , by the time I applied to medical school and

13:18

I had told myself I will not apply

13:20

to medical school until I feel

13:22

that I am the best candidate

13:24

that I can be , and that's what I ended up doing . So

13:27

even when I bombed the MCAT , I

13:29

knew I was going to bomb it , but

13:32

that just gave me fuel to be like , all right

13:34

. Well , you know now . You know what you

13:36

need to do in order to do that in the next time .

13:38

Okay , did you doubt you would make it into medical

13:40

school ? Nope never , Really .

13:43

Nope , I never doubted I would make it into medical . First

13:45

of all , let me tell you something , because

13:47

, weren't you ?

13:47

at point , because there's a concept of well

13:50

, if I can't understand chemistry , is that going

13:52

to ? Is that going to affect my performance

13:54

in med school ? Is that like a precursor

13:56

? Is that a predeterminate

13:59

to ooh , if I can't do it now in college , am I going to

14:01

struggle in med school ? You never had any of those

14:03

thoughts in your mind . No , I never had any of those thoughts

14:05

, because that's what they always say right , because they want you to

14:07

do orgo , they want you to do organic one , organic

14:10

two . And if you can't get through that , then how are you going to get

14:13

through med school ?

14:14

right , Right , right . Which is what my pre-med

14:16

advisor tried to put in my head

14:18

, because my first

14:20

semester , when I basically

14:23

failed chemistry , she

14:27

basically told me go to graduate

14:29

school and do something else . And I just thought

14:31

, how the hell is she talking about ? Like

14:33

I ? Really I was distraught by

14:36

her , by her

14:38

conclusion , but

14:41

I didn't doubt myself

14:43

, right . And so that's

14:45

why that day I ended up calling my

14:47

parents , very , very upset at

14:49

what she said to me , and the reason

14:51

that I call them was more

14:54

to say can you believe ? She said this to me More

14:57

than I don't know what I'm going to do

14:59

, whatever Now , my parents didn't quite

15:01

know what to do either , so

15:04

they just told me to keep going , and I was like all

15:06

right , I'll just keep going , I figure out how to do it

15:08

by myself , which

15:11

I ended up finding out . But

15:13

the reality is I never doubted that I would get

15:16

into medical school . I

15:18

just thought I'll just do it by myself . Now , maybe

15:20

that was naive , maybe

15:23

that was cocky , I don't know , but I just , I never had

15:25

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15:27

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16:59

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17:01

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17:04

happened in between college and getting into medical

17:06

school ?

17:07

So , first off , I

17:10

spent five years in college because I

17:12

ended up changing my major like

17:14

my ugh

17:16

. What should have been my fourth year

17:18

of college , I ended up changing

17:20

my major from chemistry to biology

17:23

. So

17:25

that added on an extra year

17:27

. So that's number one . Again

17:31

, when I graduated , I started

17:33

actually taking . Well

17:35

, the first thing I did was

17:37

actually no , I went and I got a job at a food

17:39

lab and I was doing

17:42

. I was doing microbiology

17:45

testing , so you know all those recalls

17:47

on the lettuce and the shrimp and all

17:49

kind of stuff .

17:50

So you knew you was messing up , and then I got

17:52

through .

17:54

No , no , no , no , no , no , I wasn't messing

17:56

up , but yeah

17:58

, so I would catch things like that at

18:00

a lab . And

18:03

then that that was in the

18:05

summer , and then I decided that

18:08

I was going to go back to school for a post-bac

18:10

and so I started looking

18:12

into actually a community college

18:15

not far from my house and my

18:17

sister she

18:19

was like , ugh , you know

18:21

, you went to a four year

18:23

college , are you sure you want to

18:25

go and do post-bac at a two year college

18:27

? And I was like , oh , I hadn't really thought of that

18:30

. So I thought you know what

18:32

she might be right and I listened

18:34

to her and I ended up going to Hunter

18:36

College , cuny . That's

18:38

in New York , in New York City . This

18:40

is your pillow , this is a soft one . I

18:43

don't want that one . I'll

18:46

change it after the video , whatever

18:49

, so

18:52

yeah , so I ended up going to Hunter College

18:54

. So

18:57

they do have a post-bac program

18:59

, an official post-bac program , but

19:01

I wasn't really eligible for that because I

19:03

was already a science major . So

19:05

I was like , well , let me just DIY it . And

19:08

so what I did was I ended up going

19:10

to the pre-med advisor and just

19:12

letting him know hey , I'm

19:14

not eligible for this post-bac

19:16

program , but I am taking post-bac classes

19:19

and I'd like to just be

19:21

involved with the office

19:23

, the pre-med office . And

19:28

he was like , all right , he and

19:30

I didn't necessarily see eye to eye on

19:32

the classes that I should take , like

19:35

an anatomy and physiology class . He

19:37

was like , I don't really need to take that , that's for nursing

19:40

students , blah , blah , blah . It was really

19:42

the only thing that we didn't see eye to eye on . I

19:45

ended up taking the class anyway because I felt

19:47

like I needed to know more about

19:50

anatomy and stuff . But

19:52

I retook some classes that I

19:54

had failed in college or had not done well

19:56

in . I retook physics

19:59

because I had gotten a D in physics

20:01

, and then something

20:03

else . Oh , biochem , that was the other one . We

20:06

took biochem . I took

20:08

molecular biology for the first

20:10

time , which was really biochem

20:13

disguised . But

20:15

yeah , so I did that for

20:18

two years and in those two years

20:20

I worked for a nonprofit organization

20:22

that serviced older people

20:24

in Manhattan and

20:28

then I tutored high school to

20:30

get people ready for the regions , for the math

20:32

regions , and then from that job

20:34

, from that tutoring job , I ended up getting hired

20:37

as a science teacher at a New York

20:39

City public school .

20:41

Yeah , okay . Well , what

20:43

is ? Let's pivot again . What's

20:47

the biggest myth the public has about

20:49

OB and OB-Gynes

20:51

? Is it OB-Gynes or OB-Gyns ?

20:54

You can say however you want . People

20:56

say OB-Gynes , people say OB-Gyns . People say OB-Gyny

20:59

. Is that the biggest myth ? So

21:02

people say obs-gyny

21:05

.

21:05

They say that overseas Obs and gyny .

21:07

Obs and gyny . Yeah , the

21:09

biggest myth , oh my God , I

21:12

think the biggest myth is

21:15

that all OBs are

21:17

pro-choice

21:20

. I

21:22

think that's . Say that again , I think anyway

21:24

, that's the biggest myth that all OBs

21:27

are pro-choice Because

21:29

we're very women's health oriented

21:32

. I

21:34

think that might be one of the biggest myths

21:37

. That oh wait , what do

21:39

you mean ? You're obstetrician gynecologist

21:43

is

21:45

against abortion , not even like

21:48

doesn't perform right , because performing

21:50

is a specific skill and you actually have to be skilled

21:52

in performing abortions

21:55

. But I think that it

21:57

might be a myth that

22:01

obstetricians and gynecologists

22:03

are all pro-choice because they are not

22:06

all pro-choice .

22:08

Got you .

22:08

That's my thought . The doctor

22:10

also has another one out there . I'm sure there are others

22:13

out there , other myths . Okay

22:15

, very interesting .

22:16

Okay , what is your least

22:18

favorite part of your job ?

22:23

Well , paperwork for one . I

22:25

think that's the least part of everybody's job . But

22:27

if I had to pick a really , really , really

22:30

you know big

22:32

thing that I hate about my job , it

22:34

would be when we have bad outcomes

22:36

, like you know , when a baby unfortunately

22:39

passes , things like

22:41

that . Thankfully

22:43

, I've never not going to

22:45

have a mom pass . I've

22:47

seen a mom pass before but she wasn't somebody

22:50

who was under our care . But

22:54

that's probably the

22:56

worst part of my job .

22:58

So would you say it's a high stakes type thing

23:00

? Because I mean , it's a . You know , I think when people

23:02

think about high stakes , they think about cardiology

23:04

, they think about neurosurgery , they think about trauma

23:07

surgery . Is OB one of

23:09

those ? It's a high stakes type game

23:11

and stuff . It's high pressure .

23:13

So , yes , very much so . But

23:16

you know , what's really funny is that pregnancy

23:18

oftentimes is seen as

23:21

this social event

23:23

. Right , it's very social

23:25

and of course there is a social aspect

23:27

of pregnancy in that you're

23:29

going to be adding a new family member

23:32

, you know , and that's great

23:34

. But you know , pregnancy

23:37

is a very unpredictable

23:40

at times . It's a very unpredictable

23:43

condition to be in . So

23:46

you know , I always say , like you

23:48

know everybody's low risk until they

23:50

high risk . You know Everybody's

23:54

low risk until they're high risk . And

23:56

that's the key is knowing you know

23:58

the difference between who is low risk and

24:00

high risk . As it

24:02

is happening and sometimes it

24:04

doesn't happen you don't end up turning

24:07

high risk from low risk until

24:09

you're actually going to deliver . So

24:12

you know , a lot of times you'll see patients

24:14

oh , there's nothing wrong with my pregnancy . It's

24:16

like , yeah , there might not have been

24:18

anything wrong with your pregnancy , but

24:20

that doesn't guarantee that that's

24:22

not going to end up in a high risk delivery

24:25

. Those are two totally different things

24:27

. And I think sometimes you know people

24:29

the public in particular they

24:31

don't understand that there is

24:34

such thing as being low risk

24:36

until you're high risk .

24:38

So well , how about we finish this up

24:40

?

24:41

Right .

24:42

Last but not least , what's it like being married to

24:44

a surgeon ?

24:46

Oh Lord , what's

24:49

it like being married If you ?

24:50

missed the spot right there there's a little wrinkle right there , fix

24:53

that .

24:55

Fix that . What's it like being married to a

24:57

surgeon ? Hmm Well

25:00

, so first

25:02

of all , I think I've put out there already that

25:04

I never even wanted to marry a doctor

25:06

, as I was thinking about

25:08

what my future was going to be .

25:11

So

25:13

I have to say it is pleasantly

25:16

different from what I thought For the sake

25:18

of the video , like why are you putting up these pillows ? Because

25:21

you never put up these pillows .

25:22

Well , first of all , sometimes I do put up the pillows number

25:25

one , number two you still asking me questions and

25:27

I got to finish . I got to do something . I didn't just

25:29

stand here like an idiot , put on these accent pillows

25:31

that you never , but then why I ? Got the pillows if I never used

25:34

them .

25:34

That's why I've asked you before when you first bought these . We

25:36

don't need these . Answer the question .

25:38

But I use them . What's it like being married to a surgeon ? Anyway

25:40

, right now it's really annoying .

25:46

She's serious yo .

25:49

So what's it like being ? I don't even know how

25:51

to put these pillows . That's so much .

25:52

Easy Like that . Prove right there , you don't put

25:54

them up there .

25:56

Anyway , it's actually

25:58

pleasantly .

25:58

Guys , did she do it right ? Do we have ?

26:00

symmetry here , no , not at all .

26:02

All right , we are going off track . Please finish

26:04

this question , are you ?

26:05

supposed to do this too , like something like this yeah

26:08

, anyway , so

26:11

yeah , I was saying that it is pleasantly different

26:14

than what I thought it was going to be . My

26:17

fear was that if I

26:19

married another doctor , that I

26:21

would be so busy and he would be so busy

26:23

that we would not see each other . But

26:27

I have to say , the surgeon that I am married

26:29

to , is Married to , is very

26:32

different in terms of his approach

26:35

to his career , which has

26:37

made things a lot easier . I

26:39

think if I were with someone

26:41

who was like , no , absolutely , I

26:44

just want to work in the office , work

26:46

my butt off and , every

26:48

single day , grind , grind , grind , put

26:51

in 16-hour days , every single

26:53

day , I think it would be a

26:55

lot more

26:57

contentious . I think

27:00

it would be a lot more contentious . I

27:02

don't know that . I

27:04

don't know that that would be

27:06

the type of relationship that

27:08

I would want , or at least

27:10

I don't think that that would be the schedule

27:13

that I would want for my relationship

27:15

. So it's been , it's

27:17

been good . Now , personality wise . Call

27:20

me , I'll let you know everything

27:22

, because these surgeons out here , they

27:25

just be . Let

27:27

me tell you . Okay

27:29

, these surgeons like

27:31

, the personality doesn't change just because

27:33

the scheduling changes , so

27:35

I could do everything , I could treat everything

27:38

. I don't know why orthopedics don't want

27:40

to change , don't want to replace their potassium

27:43

, but I can that , that , that but we can

27:45

deliver a baby but if we

27:47

need to , we can . Yes well , if anybody

27:49

needs today , can

27:52

the cab driver deliver a baby knee

27:54

? I can do when did you went . Okay , you know

27:56

what . I'm not talking to you anymore . Is this over

27:59

?

28:00

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