In this podcast we discuss why Ivan loves training with play, his story of coming to America and his time at the San Francisco SPCA. Plus, we discuss the controversial Dog Daddy episode of Ivan's podcast.

Ivan Balabanov is a two-time IGP world champion and 15-time national champion. He also breeds Malinois under his kennel name Ot Vitosha. Ivan is the host of the Training Without Conflict podcast and also runs a school for dog trainers.

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