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their life and risking their
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professions, and we know
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extraordinarily grateful. Thank. You
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Thank you thank you. Now. On
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with the show. I'm.
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Not sure if you're aware, but hashtag
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Hot Tig was trending after my appearance
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and Army of the Dead this year.
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Did you like this hashtag trend? I'm
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where did you feel when you first
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heard of this? I was
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very surprised and people. Were
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just saying oh my gosh, I thought your dad. I'm
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so glad you're ok. Lucky again. And
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I think of was I was
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so confused I didn't think sent
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my appearance in this movie was
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going to make any sort of
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attention I'm certainly not for. Being
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sehgal ago in a where the
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globe has a set of salt
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my to go as low as.
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You have a sunglasses just like
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mine says look good on you.
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City cr me. as a dead or dead
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not surprise me at all. I've I've got
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it. was. A. Move.
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This. Is don't ask Tig I'm
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signal sorrows the least trusted name.
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In. We have a
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very special. Guests with us today. He's.
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An emmy winning
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Cnn C Medical
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correspondent, neurosurgeon, and
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Professor. Sanjay. Gupta,
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thanks for joining me for the sale
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today. I am. I'm really
3:19
honored to be. I buy been looking
3:21
forward to this for some time. I
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told you that last time we spoke
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I meant it and I've been very,
3:28
very excitedly waiting. The yeah I
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have Until and Liam we made
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it happen. He has a
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very professional mike set up
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or thank you for noticing
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I. Mean, last time I saw you,
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you were in a closet. It seem
3:43
like a broom closet lists not nearly
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the set up dying on what Are
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you in a high rise in New
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York with a professional might. Job.
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In my hotel room here in New York. But
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yes, it as a professional Mike and I'm proud
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of it because I brought it to the hotel
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I I I thought about this at that. During
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the thing would tig I wanted to
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san as good as possible because I
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loved eggs so I carry this thing
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and it's not like it's even got
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the space on at all my time.
4:10
Then I got an offer me all
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for you and then I got stopped
4:14
by to a say because i what
4:16
does that and I had a point
4:18
out and then you know don't be
4:20
embarrassed by dropped her name and all
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is good here I am doing to
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the spot guess with years assists. I
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can't believe. That
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tier say is. That
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you're kidding. I'm uncertain. you're kidding. No.
4:34
No. I I told him of yes, a new nice,
4:37
yeah ts a new you and I told them I
4:39
was doing your podcast and I had this add
4:41
this to Smite for that reason. So it was. It
4:43
was good. I mean you know I. I think
4:45
you're not the type to probably drop your own name
4:47
so others have to do it for you. So
4:49
I did it and you should know it worked. This
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is one of those moments where I
4:54
feel like wow I've I guess I've
4:56
made it because Tier Sages damn I
4:58
feel like out a lot through there
5:00
and they're just like the my Next
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move It Know that you know that
5:05
idols and ever feel like them on
5:07
their radar. That. They're definitely
5:09
like that level, think they really look
5:11
maybe and I think that terms of
5:13
the so you have a you have
5:16
a distinctive names So we ended up.
5:18
I end up having a comes out
5:20
of. Here are some I do.
5:22
I do have a distinctive name but
5:25
I'll tell you that in my my
5:27
home country of one point two billion
5:29
people it's fairly common. Sanjay Gupta I'm
5:32
not quite John Smith's may more like
5:34
Tom Jones. You. Know, I don't
5:36
know. It's fairly common, but signatory.
5:39
Oh, it's distinctive and and right
5:41
away to people's attention, they know
5:43
that name. Well, it's good. To
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now I am I wanted
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to ask you some use,
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reported on and helped. Treat.
5:52
People during the Us
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invasion. Of Iraq and
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Hurricane Katrina. Haiti
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Earthquake in two thousand and Ten.
6:02
And of course, as a voice
6:05
of medical truth in the early
6:07
days of Coven. What?
6:11
Has been the toughest assignments
6:13
in your career so far.
6:17
And isn't this podcast? No,
6:20
definitely not this podcast the says the is
6:22
the good stuff this is I'm these are
6:25
sort of he treats I think that one
6:27
gets from doing other work being able to
6:29
talk to you but you know I think
6:31
of. I do think about the tell stories
6:33
a lot and it's it's tough to sometimes
6:36
who's determined that because them. There's
6:38
a lot of real hard Sept I
6:40
think D C around the world if
6:43
you're covering conflicts and natural disasters. I
6:45
think the hardest for me was really
6:47
probably covering the famine in Somalia. This
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is magnitude thousand and eleven and there
6:52
had been a few fans. We flew
6:54
into Kenya and then we crossed over
6:57
the border in the Somalia and it
6:59
was a salmon. them in a real
7:01
famine tag and people use that word
7:03
but you're talking about hundreds of thousands
7:06
of people who are starving. And
7:08
it's hard to see. And you know
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I think about my kids. I think
7:13
about kids like Handsome Max and Handsome
7:15
San And and I think to myself.
7:19
We gotta have. We can get that right.
7:21
Like feeding children Than that, I don't know
7:23
how we tackle the big problems. We can't
7:25
feed children. The known people starve to death.
7:27
That's released by the hardest story. That one
7:29
is the one that I thought about the
7:32
most. Afterwards I wrote a lot about it.
7:34
I journal about it. I know it's a
7:36
very long answer your question but that was
7:38
by the her know. It. I can't
7:40
even imagine what I. I
7:43
don't know how you could walk away
7:45
from that and not be haunted by
7:47
it. Yeah. But
7:50
also, I think that I think one
7:52
in five, one and six children go
7:54
to bed every night in the United
7:56
States. Food insecure, meaning they're not sure
7:58
when or if they. Get their next
8:00
meal. You know, we
8:03
spend three and a half trillion dollars on health
8:05
care. One of the wealthiest countries in the world?
8:07
I'm just how could that be? And at the
8:09
same time, forty percent of our food goes to
8:11
waste either in the fields. On the
8:13
docks. In supermarkets on people's homes?
8:16
That seems like a solvable problem for
8:18
me. I feel like
8:20
obviously we're nowhere near solving this
8:23
issue, but it feels like people
8:25
are becoming more aware of that.
8:27
And there's these different organizations, an
8:30
app that go to grocery stores
8:32
and restaurants that would be planning
8:35
on throwing the suit away. Yeah,
8:37
and these people have come up
8:39
with these incredible ideas of how
8:42
to. Get the sued to people
8:44
that neither. One amp
8:46
I was reading about is called
8:48
Food Rescue Hero. It's an asset,
8:50
has restive millions of pounds of
8:52
food and you can actually download
8:55
it and volunteer to help rescue.
8:57
Third, Yeah. They've been a
8:59
lot of progress. I mean, there was a
9:01
law and the books for some time as
9:03
you may know and it's sort of changed
9:05
First and Sants that would not allow public
9:08
organizations to give away food. The I was
9:10
there was a concern. You know if there
9:12
was food contamination or spoilage something like that
9:14
so you know they've been. it'll be a
9:16
lawsuit. Yeah. And they've been
9:19
able to your has of these overly obstructionist
9:21
regulation around that, so it's getting better. And
9:23
you're right, there's a lot more awareness of
9:25
it, but even someone like myself reporter i
9:27
did not realize how significant the problem was
9:30
and tell in a. Ten fifteen
9:32
years ago here in the United States. Again,
9:34
oppose it is such an example of.
9:37
How much bureaucracy has gone
9:40
away during the pandemic? You.
9:42
Know even when you see people
9:44
restaurant setting up. Tables.
9:47
And chairs in the street. Just
9:49
to keep the business so thin
9:51
whereas the for there is just
9:54
insane regulation and and then when
9:56
people are as the dire ends
9:59
as as. The heart of
10:01
their lives. Then the bureaucracy
10:03
seems to kind as disappear.
10:06
And people pushed to those limits. I mean
10:08
you know I. I think you have time
10:10
to goes through the red tape. You know
10:12
people are in need and you wanna be
10:14
aware of a stamps? Challenging. But you're right.
10:16
It does release. Narrow your focus. I think
10:19
in terms of what is it? An. End
10:22
the the Cozad situation. It
10:24
seems to be always changing
10:26
daily. What?
10:28
Advice would you give to people
10:31
who want to be safe right
10:33
now and are also eager to
10:35
return to their regular day to
10:38
day activities. I would say
10:40
for saw very possible. But. We
10:42
need to do. As you know, we
10:44
we want to get people vaccinated because
10:46
that's our best shot at getting a
10:48
lot of people immunity. And these are
10:50
really good vaccines. Even if you are
10:52
subsequently infected, the chance that you'll get
10:54
sick or severely sex is much reduced.
10:56
I think most people realize that by
10:58
now, but the thing I would add
11:00
to that takes is that. We.
11:03
Talk about wearing masks at the same
11:05
time, right? And people with all our
11:07
cell I wear masks and vaccinated. I'm
11:09
Sanders right now. There's so much virus
11:11
circulating through the United States that were
11:13
censored. been showered with virus. Now you're
11:15
vaccinated. The chance that you know that
11:17
sour a virus is going to break
11:19
through and make you severely ill again
11:21
is very low. But it's not zero
11:23
in. The more virus that there is
11:25
out there, the higher the chance has
11:27
become. But also the virus starts to.
11:29
More. Spreads more mutates. so if you're
11:31
just getting a lot of virus out there
11:34
in the form of the shower a virus
11:36
you're going to induce more mutations, more people
11:38
are going to get sick especially the on
11:41
back say and so on. I read a
11:43
study that said if see that states for
11:45
three to four weeks, if everybody just when
11:47
they went on public war a high filtration
11:50
mask, we'd probably bring viral transmission down to
11:52
containment mode to the point where we can
11:54
actually get her arms around at three to
11:57
four weeks of i filtration masking in public
11:59
So. The two things. Vaccination.
12:02
And at least for now until
12:04
we bring viral transmission down. The
12:08
intelligence about the you know a
12:10
good quality mask when every round
12:12
public yes. I'm I told
12:14
him filming a a movie in New
12:16
Orleans I now and. When. I'm
12:18
off from the movie I Have Sinned.
12:20
Going over to see my family and
12:22
Mississippi and ah I was just that
12:24
my cousin's house this morning and I
12:27
told him that I was gonna be
12:29
talking to you and his very excited
12:31
and he isn't the mayor of our
12:33
town and he said ah ah man
12:35
take weeds. Doctor. Gupta
12:37
to just tell the people of
12:39
Mississippi to please get vaccinated. So.
12:43
Have us that. Please. Give vaccinated
12:45
Please do s There's not many times in
12:47
our lives are we get the like. celebrate
12:49
a triumph of medical science. See who were
12:51
We really get to celebrate that people didn't
12:54
know if we'd have a vaccine at all
12:56
by this point. and even if we had
12:58
when we didn't know how well it would
13:01
work. I mean, I was one of those
13:03
people who said, look, they typically take at
13:05
least four years to develop And yes, I
13:07
mean it's gonna be a remarkable story to
13:10
reflect on how these vaccines came to be.
13:12
A cast is the seems like a same.
13:14
That after that has happened and we
13:16
could really be thankful for that that
13:18
there's so many people were still my
13:20
getting it bought. I would say is
13:22
is all sorts of reasons people are
13:24
taking the vaccine but it's the reason
13:26
is that you're afraid of the no
13:28
side effects or it was roster. All
13:30
those types of things know now that
13:32
four billion doses have been given of
13:34
this vaccine around the world and at
13:36
the same time we know that if
13:39
you are vaccinated the Of and ninety
13:41
nine point nine nine percent chance of
13:43
not ending up hospital. I. Yeah, or
13:45
dying from this disease. Yes, The scientists
13:47
that I talked to call that the
13:49
moon shot when they first described this,
13:51
and scientists the usually are pretty reserved
13:54
folks. It's really incredible. In
13:56
and two thousand and three you
13:58
were named one. People
14:00
Magazine's Sexiest People Alive.
14:03
I'm. Not sure if you're aware, but
14:05
I'm hashtag hot Tig was trending
14:08
after my parents and Army of
14:10
the Dead this year, so sex
14:12
symbol to sex symbol Funny, Advise
14:14
us to me on managing my
14:16
new status. I don't
14:18
think that I would do that again because
14:20
I think the time that you're doing it
14:22
you think whoa, How. Many get old
14:25
and I'm gonna get the rapid and not. you
14:27
know, whatever and then I'm gonna say but at
14:29
least you know back whenever the I was a
14:31
sexy guy according to people magazine and then I
14:33
can tell my kids in than this but you
14:36
know what your kids don't care and now we
14:38
did not share as I learned the kind of
14:40
embarrassed by that sorta stuff the certainly do not
14:42
like put it up and anyway like there was
14:44
a little magazine thing that we had in my
14:47
closet. I will add it wasn't like you know
14:49
in the family room or anything but it it's
14:51
never what you think it is because it's mostly
14:53
mockery. A lot of bewilderment by
14:56
some of my friends, and then flat
14:58
out embarrassment for my kids. Your
15:00
people that represent you didn't submit you
15:02
for it. I got a call someone said
15:04
would you would you do know is it was
15:06
it was a little bit sort of love dogs
15:09
you would you do it is selected so I
15:11
think that they don't want to have somebody selected
15:13
know not do it which I got Mrs yeah
15:15
I did some. People Magazine's I would
15:17
happily do it. Please get in
15:19
touch with my people. Paid. You
15:21
want me to submit to yes Would
15:23
you write a letter of recommendation? Yup.
15:26
I will talk about the he has
15:28
a experience, I will talk about the
15:30
sunglasses, other dresser and I love it
15:32
or a. Sunday. I've reviewed
15:34
your resume and is safe
15:37
to say you're overqualified. For
15:39
the job of giving my listeners' advice,
15:41
but I'm going to use you anyway.
15:44
Ah, our first question comes from
15:46
a high school student. Are you
15:48
ready? Yet. Shannon
15:52
Rights. My. Mom once
15:54
need to become a doctor but
15:56
i really enjoy of broadcasting class
15:59
and take. In high school right
16:01
now and I think I would
16:03
like to pursue a future in
16:05
entertainment/broadcasting How should I let her
16:07
know. Ah,
16:11
So. Mom wants her to be
16:13
a doctor and she wants the
16:15
and entertainment broadcast journalist. Yeah well.
16:18
I mean I sat there your own
16:20
so. And announced it on the
16:22
airwaves. Says he said that.
16:24
That's it. Yeah, I don't think they would
16:27
recommend anyone guam be a doctor who doesn't
16:29
want to be a doctor. Know and it's
16:31
a lot of work. Uma God forbid that
16:33
this high school students than comes back and
16:35
says Dr. Gupta, you are wrongs. You know
16:37
I hate it. So. Follow. Your
16:39
heart. And if you're passionate about things
16:42
that that aids and to think tig,
16:44
that's a really good sign, Absolutely yeah.
16:46
I think passionate at any age.
16:48
I was at the Tribeca Film
16:50
Festival as a juror this year
16:52
and I got to host this
16:54
evening. Where. We screened
16:57
a documentary. About. These
16:59
to stand up comedians that
17:01
didn't get into comedy and
17:03
till their eighties and I'm
17:05
not talk and eighty Eighty
17:07
one the guys eighty seven
17:09
and the woman's eighty nine
17:11
and they are hilarious and.
17:14
I just feel like it's such an
17:16
example of no matter how old you
17:19
are. You. Gotta do what
17:21
you're passionate about. Why?
17:24
Please your mother and become a doctor.
17:26
She'll. Come around and me my stepfather.
17:29
He wanted me to that a
17:31
business school. He wanted me to
17:33
be an attorney. He wanted all
17:35
of these things and now he
17:37
he know. He apologized for not
17:39
being supportive all these years and
17:41
he wishes he had done. And
17:43
I think that. I.
17:45
Have been successful because I've worked
17:47
hard, I'm passionate about what I
17:50
do and I'm happy. I'm very
17:52
happy in my career and my
17:54
life. So. I would say. Your.
17:57
your mother zoc gonna be upset if
17:59
you're thriving and happy and
18:01
passionate. And if she is, tell her to call
18:04
me. I
18:06
totally concur. Shannon, you can trust
18:08
my advice. I'm friends with a
18:11
doctor. It's
18:13
time for a break and then we'll
18:15
be back with more questions. And
18:44
we are back. Sanjay, this next
18:47
question comes to us from a listener
18:49
in the United Kingdom. Ola
18:51
writes, Hello Tig, how does
18:53
one successfully break off from
18:55
limerence of over 10 years,
18:57
even while married. My
19:00
husband now knows about my ongoing
19:02
limerence and is devastated. And the
19:04
one I am limerick about has
19:06
been disrespectful in some ways, but
19:08
I'm still in love with both
19:10
of them. Please help. Sanjay,
19:13
I didn't know what limerence meant. So
19:15
I looked it up. Do you know
19:17
what it means? No, no, I was going
19:19
to try and Google while zooming at the
19:21
same time, but I couldn't do it. I
19:24
kind of saw you panic and getting to
19:26
a Google position. So
19:28
here's the definition. It's a noun
19:31
and it's the state of being obsessively infatuated
19:35
with someone usually accompanied
19:37
by delusions of or
19:39
a desire for an
19:41
intense romantic relationship with
19:43
that person. Wow. Which
19:46
to be fair, a lot of people had
19:49
that for us being
19:51
as sexy as we are. I think
19:53
that I think you're 100% right on that.
19:55
Yeah. I'm going to, I'm definitely
19:57
going to be using this word now often. Yeah,
20:01
you got to wedge it in whenever you
20:03
can. I've been through that before but not
20:08
in a long time. I feel
20:11
very thankful that
20:14
there's not anybody that I'm thinking about
20:16
or that I wish I could
20:18
be with except for who
20:20
I'm with. So I
20:23
think that it probably
20:26
opens a conversation about
20:29
maybe your marriage.
20:33
Sanjay? Yeah, I mean I think honesty is
20:35
the best policy here. I think it's a
20:37
real serious, honest,
20:40
transparent conversation about the marriage. But
20:43
I think you have to do it because it's
20:45
painful but you have to do it. Not doing
20:47
it will make it more painful. It's like the
20:49
pain exponentially grows, the longer
20:51
it sort of lingers. But be sure,
20:54
don't be like, oh, it was just a little limerence. And
20:57
then that's not really
21:00
over using that word doctor. I really
21:02
like that. I really like the word.
21:04
I haven't googled it myself yet so
21:06
I'm going to look into all the
21:08
derivations and other uses. And yeah, that is
21:10
a real word, right? I'm not being punked
21:12
on your podcast, am I? I
21:15
don't know. If you are, I am too. Because
21:19
I'm falling for it. It sounds like a
21:21
real word. And you know, this person's from
21:23
the UK. I feel like they, you
21:26
know, I always feel like they
21:28
know more words than... These words
21:31
like shag. Yeah, shag
21:33
and limerence. They're
21:37
all sexual. Yeah,
21:41
that person needs to talk to their spouse. Yes,
21:43
don't hide that. And you might
21:45
have a conversation where you figure something
21:47
out about yourself and you can move
21:50
on from this limerence. You know, it
21:52
might not even be a
21:54
conversation where you talk with your spouse
21:57
and then you realize you have
21:59
to part ways. It might just
22:01
be that the conversation opens up
22:03
the problem area that that you're
22:05
having that's distracting you and you
22:07
can Tackle that yeah, so
22:10
Ola best of luck with your lime rinse now
22:13
that we know what that is so and
22:15
thank you for teaching us that word Yeah,
22:17
Sanjay this one comes from one of
22:20
your future colleagues single
22:22
in scrubs right I'm
22:26
a perpetually single lesbian in
22:28
her late 20s and a doctor in
22:30
training I came out in the
22:32
middle of a super busy time in my
22:35
life in med school and now I'm even
22:37
busier Working 80 hours a week as a
22:39
resident. I really want the companionship of a
22:41
committed relationship And I've
22:43
dated here and there but I
22:46
feel like my unpredictable schedule and
22:48
lack of experience in relationships Honestly
22:50
makes me a pretty lousy partner. How
22:52
can I show the girl? I just
22:54
started seeing that I'm committed to being
22:57
a good partner when my job demands
22:59
so much of my time and energy
23:02
Did you run into that? Yeah after
23:05
med school I did seven years of training and I
23:07
did a year of fellowship and you
23:09
know, it's a hundred hours a week Some
23:12
of these years. It's just very
23:14
challenging to have friends Let
23:17
alone relationships. Yeah, you know, it's just very hard
23:19
to make plans So, you
23:21
know, I would not sugarcoat what this
23:24
person is asking at all On
23:26
the other hand when I found the right person and
23:28
it was maybe later in life I
23:31
was in my mid 30s when you
23:33
know, we finally sort of settled down and
23:35
things like that but I
23:38
think you got to find you got to make sure
23:40
the person is very aware of your your schedule and
23:43
your life and and all that and You
23:45
probably you know want to spend time with this
23:47
person And so
23:49
they see your life You know
23:51
if you're thinking about settling down that they really understand
23:53
your life Of course, you want them to understand you
23:55
but the unpredictability of that is
23:58
something that people do have to get used to and
24:00
it's not for everybody. Yeah, and
24:02
I think you can feel when somebody's
24:04
serious and committed. Even
24:07
if somebody's really busy, I
24:09
always am amused when somebody will
24:12
be interested in an actor
24:14
and they'll say, yeah,
24:16
I sent them a text, but I haven't heard
24:18
back, but I know they're filming a movie. And
24:21
I know when I'm
24:24
filming a movie, I have a lot of
24:26
downtime. When I'm sitting
24:28
in the makeup chair and getting my
24:30
hair and makeup done, or I'm in
24:33
between scenes, when
24:36
somebody's into you, you can feel it.
24:38
And if they know that your
24:41
life is busy, when
24:43
you take time to spend
24:46
the moments that
24:48
you have free with this person, I think
24:50
that's going to mean so much and it's
24:52
going to say so much. I
24:55
wouldn't overthink it because
24:57
they'll know. They will know.
24:59
Yeah. Be careful about resenting
25:02
the person in any way because
25:04
of schedule and things like that.
25:07
You don't want to feel guilty that you're
25:09
going off to do your work that you
25:11
think is important. And you don't want the
25:13
person to make you feel that way or
25:16
even the person's not making you feel that way, that
25:18
you're allowing yourself to feel that way because that
25:21
seems like a prescription for problems later
25:23
on. I
25:25
met my wife when I was in
25:27
my residency and it was 100 hours a
25:30
week and she was waiting
25:32
tables and I was impoverished
25:34
and so she had
25:36
food and I was hungry. And
25:38
so it started off like that
25:40
and then obviously fell in love,
25:42
but also recognized what our lives
25:44
were likely to be. Your
25:46
life, single and scrubs, will get easier probably
25:48
once you finish your residency and all that.
25:50
This will be some of the busiest times
25:52
of your life. So if you can get
25:54
through this now with this person, it's
25:57
probably a good sign. So Make sure.
26:00
The for my person our threaten
26:02
and you know and be honest.
26:04
I think whether you're really busy
26:06
the come in a doctor or
26:08
you're just a person in the
26:11
world that's not even that busy.
26:13
It's. Always I think really
26:16
good and helpful to just
26:18
tell this person. Listen.
26:20
I'm gonna have a couple of busy
26:22
days coming up but on Wednesday I
26:24
have some free time and I would
26:27
love to see you. You know if
26:29
you just communicate with. Here's.
26:31
One, I'm gonna be busy. Here's
26:33
what's going on. and and you
26:35
let this person know that you're
26:38
thinking about them and trying to
26:40
make space to see them. I
26:42
think that's gonna tell everything that
26:44
needs to be said. Yup. I
26:47
at Sunday we've reached our last listener
26:49
question. Brittany Rights.
26:52
What? Do you do when someone
26:54
you love gives you a really
26:56
thoughtful gifts? but you honestly just
26:58
don't like it? Like. They
27:01
genuinely tried really hard
27:03
and sales. The. Gently
27:05
tell them the truth or pretend to
27:07
love it. I mean it would
27:09
be awful the know what we're I'm I'm specifically here but
27:11
I'm gonna go with putin. The love it. Ah
27:14
tend to love it. Yeah, I'm an
27:16
adult think that's duplicitous really at all.
27:18
Frankly, on cause saying it's the thought
27:20
that counts as and so stay in.
27:22
A nice euphemistic thing to say, it's
27:24
a really thoughtful gifts right? as the
27:26
person said, so the person put a
27:29
lot of thought into this now. They.
27:31
May have gotten it wrong to and
27:33
from someone who thinks you lights or
27:35
maybe they've tapped into something about you
27:37
that maybe you don't even know like
27:39
you know that gets is something that
27:41
observing you they think you're going to
27:43
like me who I would actually take
27:46
a step further not only pretend to
27:48
like it but actually like it. Like
27:50
like learn to understand why they gave
27:52
it to you by my wife One
27:54
C C Am I hate. jelly
27:56
sandwiches i just i don't know what it is
27:58
i don't like the idea I
28:01
mostly don't eat meat in the first place.
28:03
So like stacked meat like that on bread
28:05
like it. I can't even Just
28:08
and then one time I was super hungry and she's like I'll
28:10
get us some food and she came back with the deli sandwich
28:12
And we've been married for like 15 years at this point and
28:14
I thought does she even know me? Right
28:17
and it's too long to get into all the reasons why
28:19
she did it But it was thoughtful
28:21
and she was taking care of me and I
28:23
appreciated it. Yeah, so pretend you like
28:25
it and learn to like it What
28:27
do you say? Yeah, I feel like I
28:29
was just picturing like what if Stephanie bought
28:31
me a ring that I Would
28:36
not Pick out
28:38
for myself. I Would
28:41
be so touched. I think
28:43
I would find it endearing and
28:46
Touching. Yeah, by the way, you'll appreciate this.
28:48
I'll just tell you really quickly You
28:51
may not know this but the Dalai Lama. I was
28:53
just going off because you're vegan. He
28:55
doesn't eat meat His whole thing is
28:58
he won't eat anything that is sentient
29:00
But here's the thing. He doesn't do anything
29:02
that is sentient that has a sense of
29:04
itself Indian beings but
29:07
and this surprised me if he
29:10
goes somewhere and is offered meat he will
29:12
eat it and I
29:14
asked him why and he said he would do
29:16
that because It's the
29:18
graciousness of the host and he wants to be
29:20
a good guest Which I
29:22
thought was really very interesting that he put
29:25
that Above even
29:27
his is sort of pretty strict
29:29
abidance by not eating sentient things
29:32
Well, Brittany, we hope that
29:34
helps and Sanjay, that's
29:36
all of our listener questions, but
29:39
I need you to stick around for a final
29:41
segment. We call Come back
29:43
to me later Okay
29:52
Dr. Gupta Everyone wishes they had
29:54
the perfect response at the ready
29:56
for certain social interactions. Come back
29:59
to me. Later is the segment
30:01
where we make that wish come
30:03
true. Here's how it works. Were
30:05
going to repeat some of the
30:07
excuses on vaccinated folks have said
30:09
about their reason for not getting
30:11
a covert vaccine. Sourced from the
30:14
Internet. Our job. Is to come
30:16
up with the perfect response. Okay,
30:18
the up I'll do my best. Here's.
30:20
What the and vaccinated said? We
30:23
don't know what the long term side
30:25
effects are. Not
30:28
knowing the long term side effects
30:31
as a fair question is what
30:33
we know about these vaccines is
30:35
that they almost entirely turn your
30:37
own body into vaccine making. So
30:39
you're not changing your dna. You're
30:42
not doing anything that would cause
30:44
long term effects doesn't affect pregnancy.
30:46
just says he. a Logically the
30:48
way the vaccines works, they don't
30:51
cause long term impact on the
30:53
body. New tests we can
30:55
deal with the side effects of
30:57
Co The nineteen another health challenges
30:59
through natural supplements and vitamin D
31:01
and diet rather than vaccination and
31:04
medicine. You know, people have
31:06
been giving this argument for a long
31:08
time. I mean, going back to the
31:10
Nineteen eighteen Flu pandemic. Some of what
31:12
we're going through is not new, but
31:14
look, six hundred thousand people in the
31:16
United States alone have died and it's
31:18
not at all. of them were the
31:20
know. In need of supplements
31:22
and healthier diets? I mean, this is
31:25
a bad disease. I wish it weren't
31:27
the case, but it's a bad disease.
31:29
Yeah, there's always good reason to be
31:31
healthy. and we know things like obesity
31:34
can be a real risk factor here.
31:36
but the virus doesn't care sometimes. no
31:38
matter what, they can make your really
31:40
sick him in some cases you could
31:42
die. So we have this wonderful supplement.
31:45
In this case, the vaccine that actually
31:47
teaches your body how to be even
31:49
better what it already does. I've
31:52
taken it, My parents have taken at my
31:54
kids have taken it. I would recommend it
31:56
to you as well. i
31:58
already done so that And just
32:00
to be clear, I haven't had COVID. That
32:03
was just one of the questions. When
32:06
you've had COVID, you do develop
32:08
immunity. There's no question. That's
32:11
kind of what the process is. You're infected
32:13
and your body makes all these antibodies and
32:15
other types of things that are called cells
32:17
to fight off the infection. What
32:20
I have learned looking at the data,
32:22
and this is emerging data, is
32:24
that the type of protection you get from
32:26
the vaccine is much
32:29
better than what you get
32:31
from naturally acquired immunity. We know
32:33
in countries around the world, there are
32:35
people who are previously infected with COVID
32:37
who are now getting reinfected and developing
32:39
serious illness. The vaccine is
32:41
just going to give you broader and more durable protection.
32:43
We didn't know that for sure in the beginning. Of
32:46
course, we didn't even know we'd have a vaccine. But
32:48
a recent study came out that said
32:50
you are basically twice as likely to
32:52
become reinfected, at least from natural immunity,
32:54
than with the vaccine. So even
32:56
if you've had it, go ahead and still get vaccinated. Yeah.
33:00
Thanks for those responses, Sanjay. Hopefully
33:03
that's helpful to some of our
33:05
listeners out there having difficult conversations
33:07
with loved ones. Hope so. We've
33:10
reached the end of the show. It's
33:12
been such a pleasure to see you again
33:14
and talk to you. Thank
33:16
you. I really appreciate you taking
33:18
the time to be here with
33:21
us and traveling with that huge
33:23
microphone just for me. I
33:25
can't even believe it. It was well worth it.
33:28
I'm happy that I did it. No regrets at all. Do
33:31
you have anything you'd like to
33:33
promote and see your career get
33:36
a massive bump by mentioning it
33:38
on my podcast? No,
33:41
I don't want to do that at all, actually. I
33:43
just wanted to have this conversation with you. I
33:46
want to do it just for no reason other
33:48
than to have just pure enjoyment of chatting with
33:50
you. It's really enjoyable. It
33:52
was so good to see you. Thank you again.
33:54
Anytime. Oh,
34:02
we are human beings now.
34:07
Oh, we are human beings. I
34:16
wish that I could give you the answer.
34:20
I wish that I could make you easy.
34:24
I wish that I could put you
34:26
in your mom and put you to
34:28
sleep. So,
34:31
it's too hard in love. It's
34:36
too hard in love. It's
34:41
too hard in love.
34:44
It's too hard in love. Don't
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