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Hey Dana's Mbeki, Is that what

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you're about to? Here is an

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encore presentation of one of our

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Hi. Everyone take here! I wanted to

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open the show today with a message

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I got from a listener named Ruth.

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The. Ruth. He

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writes. Do. You do shoutout

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to health care workers. If

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as. And. While I'm thinking

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you personally. I'd. Also

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like to send a special

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thank you to all the

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health care workers: nurses, doctors,

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therapist, cove, the testers, ambulance

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drivers, pharmacists, All. Of

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you. The list goes on

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and on and on. There

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are so many people devoting

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their life and risking their

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life to help. Strangers.

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It's incredible. It's touching and

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thank you all from the

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bottom of my heart. It's.

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Just. It's. An extraordinarily

1:24

difficult time for your

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professions, and we know

1:28

that and appreciate it

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So so. We're all

1:32

extraordinarily grateful. Thank. You

1:34

Thank you thank you. Now. On

1:36

with the show. I'm.

1:40

Not sure if you're aware, but hashtag

1:42

Hot Tig was trending after my appearance

1:44

and Army of the Dead this year.

1:47

Did you like this hashtag trend? I'm

1:49

where did you feel when you first

1:51

heard of this? I was

1:53

very surprised and people. Were

1:56

just saying oh my gosh, I thought your dad. I'm

1:58

so glad you're ok. Lucky again. And

2:01

I think of was I was

2:03

so confused I didn't think sent

2:06

my appearance in this movie was

2:08

going to make any sort of

2:10

attention I'm certainly not for. Being

2:13

sehgal ago in a where the

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globe has a set of salt

2:17

my to go as low as.

2:20

You have a sunglasses just like

2:22

mine says look good on you.

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City cr me. as a dead or dead

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Amazon new I've been have asked acting did

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not surprise me at all. I've I've got

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it. was. A. Move.

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This. Is don't ask Tig I'm

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signal sorrows the least trusted name.

3:02

In. We have a

3:04

very special. Guests with us today. He's.

3:06

An emmy winning

3:08

Cnn C Medical

3:10

correspondent, neurosurgeon, and

3:12

Professor. Sanjay. Gupta,

3:15

thanks for joining me for the sale

3:17

today. I am. I'm really

3:19

honored to be. I buy been looking

3:21

forward to this for some time. I

3:23

told you that last time we spoke

3:26

I meant it and I've been very,

3:28

very excitedly waiting. The yeah I

3:30

have Until and Liam we made

3:32

it happen. He has a

3:34

very professional mike set up

3:36

or thank you for noticing

3:38

I. Mean, last time I saw you,

3:41

you were in a closet. It seem

3:43

like a broom closet lists not nearly

3:45

the set up dying on what Are

3:47

you in a high rise in New

3:49

York with a professional might. Job.

3:51

In my hotel room here in New York. But

3:53

yes, it as a professional Mike and I'm proud

3:55

of it because I brought it to the hotel

3:58

I I I thought about this at that. During

4:00

the thing would tig I wanted to

4:02

san as good as possible because I

4:04

loved eggs so I carry this thing

4:06

and it's not like it's even got

4:08

the space on at all my time.

4:10

Then I got an offer me all

4:12

for you and then I got stopped

4:14

by to a say because i what

4:16

does that and I had a point

4:18

out and then you know don't be

4:20

embarrassed by dropped her name and all

4:23

is good here I am doing to

4:25

the spot guess with years assists. I

4:27

can't believe. That

4:29

tier say is. That

4:31

you're kidding. I'm uncertain. you're kidding. No.

4:34

No. I I told him of yes, a new nice,

4:37

yeah ts a new you and I told them I

4:39

was doing your podcast and I had this add

4:41

this to Smite for that reason. So it was. It

4:43

was good. I mean you know I. I think

4:45

you're not the type to probably drop your own name

4:47

so others have to do it for you. So

4:49

I did it and you should know it worked. This

4:52

is one of those moments where I

4:54

feel like wow I've I guess I've

4:56

made it because Tier Sages damn I

4:58

feel like out a lot through there

5:00

and they're just like the my Next

5:03

move It Know that you know that

5:05

idols and ever feel like them on

5:07

their radar. That. They're definitely

5:09

like that level, think they really look

5:11

maybe and I think that terms of

5:13

the so you have a you have

5:16

a distinctive names So we ended up.

5:18

I end up having a comes out

5:20

of. Here are some I do.

5:22

I do have a distinctive name but

5:25

I'll tell you that in my my

5:27

home country of one point two billion

5:29

people it's fairly common. Sanjay Gupta I'm

5:32

not quite John Smith's may more like

5:34

Tom Jones. You. Know, I don't

5:36

know. It's fairly common, but signatory.

5:39

Oh, it's distinctive and and right

5:41

away to people's attention, they know

5:43

that name. Well, it's good. To

5:45

now I am I wanted

5:48

to ask you some use,

5:50

reported on and helped. Treat.

5:52

People during the Us

5:55

invasion. Of Iraq and

5:57

Hurricane Katrina. Haiti

6:00

Earthquake in two thousand and Ten.

6:02

And of course, as a voice

6:05

of medical truth in the early

6:07

days of Coven. What?

6:11

Has been the toughest assignments

6:13

in your career so far.

6:17

And isn't this podcast? No,

6:20

definitely not this podcast the says the is

6:22

the good stuff this is I'm these are

6:25

sort of he treats I think that one

6:27

gets from doing other work being able to

6:29

talk to you but you know I think

6:31

of. I do think about the tell stories

6:33

a lot and it's it's tough to sometimes

6:36

who's determined that because them. There's

6:38

a lot of real hard Sept I

6:40

think D C around the world if

6:43

you're covering conflicts and natural disasters. I

6:45

think the hardest for me was really

6:47

probably covering the famine in Somalia. This

6:50

is magnitude thousand and eleven and there

6:52

had been a few fans. We flew

6:54

into Kenya and then we crossed over

6:57

the border in the Somalia and it

6:59

was a salmon. them in a real

7:01

famine tag and people use that word

7:03

but you're talking about hundreds of thousands

7:06

of people who are starving. And

7:08

it's hard to see. And you know

7:11

I think about my kids. I think

7:13

about kids like Handsome Max and Handsome

7:15

San And and I think to myself.

7:19

We gotta have. We can get that right.

7:21

Like feeding children Than that, I don't know

7:23

how we tackle the big problems. We can't

7:25

feed children. The known people starve to death.

7:27

That's released by the hardest story. That one

7:29

is the one that I thought about the

7:32

most. Afterwards I wrote a lot about it.

7:34

I journal about it. I know it's a

7:36

very long answer your question but that was

7:38

by the her know. It. I can't

7:40

even imagine what I. I

7:43

don't know how you could walk away

7:45

from that and not be haunted by

7:47

it. Yeah. But

7:50

also, I think that I think one

7:52

in five, one and six children go

7:54

to bed every night in the United

7:56

States. Food insecure, meaning they're not sure

7:58

when or if they. Get their next

8:00

meal. You know, we

8:03

spend three and a half trillion dollars on health

8:05

care. One of the wealthiest countries in the world?

8:07

I'm just how could that be? And at the

8:09

same time, forty percent of our food goes to

8:11

waste either in the fields. On the

8:13

docks. In supermarkets on people's homes?

8:16

That seems like a solvable problem for

8:18

me. I feel like

8:20

obviously we're nowhere near solving this

8:23

issue, but it feels like people

8:25

are becoming more aware of that.

8:27

And there's these different organizations, an

8:30

app that go to grocery stores

8:32

and restaurants that would be planning

8:35

on throwing the suit away. Yeah,

8:37

and these people have come up

8:39

with these incredible ideas of how

8:42

to. Get the sued to people

8:44

that neither. One amp

8:46

I was reading about is called

8:48

Food Rescue Hero. It's an asset,

8:50

has restive millions of pounds of

8:52

food and you can actually download

8:55

it and volunteer to help rescue.

8:57

Third, Yeah. They've been a

8:59

lot of progress. I mean, there was a

9:01

law and the books for some time as

9:03

you may know and it's sort of changed

9:05

First and Sants that would not allow public

9:08

organizations to give away food. The I was

9:10

there was a concern. You know if there

9:12

was food contamination or spoilage something like that

9:14

so you know they've been. it'll be a

9:16

lawsuit. Yeah. And they've been

9:19

able to your has of these overly obstructionist

9:21

regulation around that, so it's getting better. And

9:23

you're right, there's a lot more awareness of

9:25

it, but even someone like myself reporter i

9:27

did not realize how significant the problem was

9:30

and tell in a. Ten fifteen

9:32

years ago here in the United States. Again,

9:34

oppose it is such an example of.

9:37

How much bureaucracy has gone

9:40

away during the pandemic? You.

9:42

Know even when you see people

9:44

restaurant setting up. Tables.

9:47

And chairs in the street. Just

9:49

to keep the business so thin

9:51

whereas the for there is just

9:54

insane regulation and and then when

9:56

people are as the dire ends

9:59

as as. The heart of

10:01

their lives. Then the bureaucracy

10:03

seems to kind as disappear.

10:06

And people pushed to those limits. I mean

10:08

you know I. I think you have time

10:10

to goes through the red tape. You know

10:12

people are in need and you wanna be

10:14

aware of a stamps? Challenging. But you're right.

10:16

It does release. Narrow your focus. I think

10:19

in terms of what is it? An. End

10:22

the the Cozad situation. It

10:24

seems to be always changing

10:26

daily. What?

10:28

Advice would you give to people

10:31

who want to be safe right

10:33

now and are also eager to

10:35

return to their regular day to

10:38

day activities. I would say

10:40

for saw very possible. But. We

10:42

need to do. As you know, we

10:44

we want to get people vaccinated because

10:46

that's our best shot at getting a

10:48

lot of people immunity. And these are

10:50

really good vaccines. Even if you are

10:52

subsequently infected, the chance that you'll get

10:54

sick or severely sex is much reduced.

10:56

I think most people realize that by

10:58

now, but the thing I would add

11:00

to that takes is that. We.

11:03

Talk about wearing masks at the same

11:05

time, right? And people with all our

11:07

cell I wear masks and vaccinated. I'm

11:09

Sanders right now. There's so much virus

11:11

circulating through the United States that were

11:13

censored. been showered with virus. Now you're

11:15

vaccinated. The chance that you know that

11:17

sour a virus is going to break

11:19

through and make you severely ill again

11:21

is very low. But it's not zero

11:23

in. The more virus that there is

11:25

out there, the higher the chance has

11:27

become. But also the virus starts to.

11:29

More. Spreads more mutates. so if you're

11:31

just getting a lot of virus out there

11:34

in the form of the shower a virus

11:36

you're going to induce more mutations, more people

11:38

are going to get sick especially the on

11:41

back say and so on. I read a

11:43

study that said if see that states for

11:45

three to four weeks, if everybody just when

11:47

they went on public war a high filtration

11:50

mask, we'd probably bring viral transmission down to

11:52

containment mode to the point where we can

11:54

actually get her arms around at three to

11:57

four weeks of i filtration masking in public

11:59

So. The two things. Vaccination.

12:02

And at least for now until

12:04

we bring viral transmission down. The

12:08

intelligence about the you know a

12:10

good quality mask when every round

12:12

public yes. I'm I told

12:14

him filming a a movie in New

12:16

Orleans I now and. When. I'm

12:18

off from the movie I Have Sinned.

12:20

Going over to see my family and

12:22

Mississippi and ah I was just that

12:24

my cousin's house this morning and I

12:27

told him that I was gonna be

12:29

talking to you and his very excited

12:31

and he isn't the mayor of our

12:33

town and he said ah ah man

12:35

take weeds. Doctor. Gupta

12:37

to just tell the people of

12:39

Mississippi to please get vaccinated. So.

12:43

Have us that. Please. Give vaccinated

12:45

Please do s There's not many times in

12:47

our lives are we get the like. celebrate

12:49

a triumph of medical science. See who were

12:51

We really get to celebrate that people didn't

12:54

know if we'd have a vaccine at all

12:56

by this point. and even if we had

12:58

when we didn't know how well it would

13:01

work. I mean, I was one of those

13:03

people who said, look, they typically take at

13:05

least four years to develop And yes, I

13:07

mean it's gonna be a remarkable story to

13:10

reflect on how these vaccines came to be.

13:12

A cast is the seems like a same.

13:14

That after that has happened and we

13:16

could really be thankful for that that

13:18

there's so many people were still my

13:20

getting it bought. I would say is

13:22

is all sorts of reasons people are

13:24

taking the vaccine but it's the reason

13:26

is that you're afraid of the no

13:28

side effects or it was roster. All

13:30

those types of things know now that

13:32

four billion doses have been given of

13:34

this vaccine around the world and at

13:36

the same time we know that if

13:39

you are vaccinated the Of and ninety

13:41

nine point nine nine percent chance of

13:43

not ending up hospital. I. Yeah, or

13:45

dying from this disease. Yes, The scientists

13:47

that I talked to call that the

13:49

moon shot when they first described this,

13:51

and scientists the usually are pretty reserved

13:54

folks. It's really incredible. In

13:56

and two thousand and three you

13:58

were named one. People

14:00

Magazine's Sexiest People Alive.

14:03

I'm. Not sure if you're aware, but

14:05

I'm hashtag hot Tig was trending

14:08

after my parents and Army of

14:10

the Dead this year, so sex

14:12

symbol to sex symbol Funny, Advise

14:14

us to me on managing my

14:16

new status. I don't

14:18

think that I would do that again because

14:20

I think the time that you're doing it

14:22

you think whoa, How. Many get old

14:25

and I'm gonna get the rapid and not. you

14:27

know, whatever and then I'm gonna say but at

14:29

least you know back whenever the I was a

14:31

sexy guy according to people magazine and then I

14:33

can tell my kids in than this but you

14:36

know what your kids don't care and now we

14:38

did not share as I learned the kind of

14:40

embarrassed by that sorta stuff the certainly do not

14:42

like put it up and anyway like there was

14:44

a little magazine thing that we had in my

14:47

closet. I will add it wasn't like you know

14:49

in the family room or anything but it it's

14:51

never what you think it is because it's mostly

14:53

mockery. A lot of bewilderment by

14:56

some of my friends, and then flat

14:58

out embarrassment for my kids. Your

15:00

people that represent you didn't submit you

15:02

for it. I got a call someone said

15:04

would you would you do know is it was

15:06

it was a little bit sort of love dogs

15:09

you would you do it is selected so I

15:11

think that they don't want to have somebody selected

15:13

know not do it which I got Mrs yeah

15:15

I did some. People Magazine's I would

15:17

happily do it. Please get in

15:19

touch with my people. Paid. You

15:21

want me to submit to yes Would

15:23

you write a letter of recommendation? Yup.

15:26

I will talk about the he has

15:28

a experience, I will talk about the

15:30

sunglasses, other dresser and I love it

15:32

or a. Sunday. I've reviewed

15:34

your resume and is safe

15:37

to say you're overqualified. For

15:39

the job of giving my listeners' advice,

15:41

but I'm going to use you anyway.

15:44

Ah, our first question comes from

15:46

a high school student. Are you

15:48

ready? Yet. Shannon

15:52

Rights. My. Mom once

15:54

need to become a doctor but

15:56

i really enjoy of broadcasting class

15:59

and take. In high school right

16:01

now and I think I would

16:03

like to pursue a future in

16:05

entertainment/broadcasting How should I let her

16:07

know. Ah,

16:11

So. Mom wants her to be

16:13

a doctor and she wants the

16:15

and entertainment broadcast journalist. Yeah well.

16:18

I mean I sat there your own

16:20

so. And announced it on the

16:22

airwaves. Says he said that.

16:24

That's it. Yeah, I don't think they would

16:27

recommend anyone guam be a doctor who doesn't

16:29

want to be a doctor. Know and it's

16:31

a lot of work. Uma God forbid that

16:33

this high school students than comes back and

16:35

says Dr. Gupta, you are wrongs. You know

16:37

I hate it. So. Follow. Your

16:39

heart. And if you're passionate about things

16:42

that that aids and to think tig,

16:44

that's a really good sign, Absolutely yeah.

16:46

I think passionate at any age.

16:48

I was at the Tribeca Film

16:50

Festival as a juror this year

16:52

and I got to host this

16:54

evening. Where. We screened

16:57

a documentary. About. These

16:59

to stand up comedians that

17:01

didn't get into comedy and

17:03

till their eighties and I'm

17:05

not talk and eighty Eighty

17:07

one the guys eighty seven

17:09

and the woman's eighty nine

17:11

and they are hilarious and.

17:14

I just feel like it's such an

17:16

example of no matter how old you

17:19

are. You. Gotta do what

17:21

you're passionate about. Why?

17:24

Please your mother and become a doctor.

17:26

She'll. Come around and me my stepfather.

17:29

He wanted me to that a

17:31

business school. He wanted me to

17:33

be an attorney. He wanted all

17:35

of these things and now he

17:37

he know. He apologized for not

17:39

being supportive all these years and

17:41

he wishes he had done. And

17:43

I think that. I.

17:45

Have been successful because I've worked

17:47

hard, I'm passionate about what I

17:50

do and I'm happy. I'm very

17:52

happy in my career and my

17:54

life. So. I would say. Your.

17:57

your mother zoc gonna be upset if

17:59

you're thriving and happy and

18:01

passionate. And if she is, tell her to call

18:04

me. I

18:06

totally concur. Shannon, you can trust

18:08

my advice. I'm friends with a

18:11

doctor. It's

18:13

time for a break and then we'll

18:15

be back with more questions. And

18:44

we are back. Sanjay, this next

18:47

question comes to us from a listener

18:49

in the United Kingdom. Ola

18:51

writes, Hello Tig, how does

18:53

one successfully break off from

18:55

limerence of over 10 years,

18:57

even while married. My

19:00

husband now knows about my ongoing

19:02

limerence and is devastated. And the

19:04

one I am limerick about has

19:06

been disrespectful in some ways, but

19:08

I'm still in love with both

19:10

of them. Please help. Sanjay,

19:13

I didn't know what limerence meant. So

19:15

I looked it up. Do you know

19:17

what it means? No, no, I was going

19:19

to try and Google while zooming at the

19:21

same time, but I couldn't do it. I

19:24

kind of saw you panic and getting to

19:26

a Google position. So

19:28

here's the definition. It's a noun

19:31

and it's the state of being obsessively infatuated

19:35

with someone usually accompanied

19:37

by delusions of or

19:39

a desire for an

19:41

intense romantic relationship with

19:43

that person. Wow. Which

19:46

to be fair, a lot of people had

19:49

that for us being

19:51

as sexy as we are. I think

19:53

that I think you're 100% right on that.

19:55

Yeah. I'm going to, I'm definitely

19:57

going to be using this word now often. Yeah,

20:01

you got to wedge it in whenever you

20:03

can. I've been through that before but not

20:08

in a long time. I feel

20:11

very thankful that

20:14

there's not anybody that I'm thinking about

20:16

or that I wish I could

20:18

be with except for who

20:20

I'm with. So I

20:23

think that it probably

20:26

opens a conversation about

20:29

maybe your marriage.

20:33

Sanjay? Yeah, I mean I think honesty is

20:35

the best policy here. I think it's a

20:37

real serious, honest,

20:40

transparent conversation about the marriage. But

20:43

I think you have to do it because it's

20:45

painful but you have to do it. Not doing

20:47

it will make it more painful. It's like the

20:49

pain exponentially grows, the longer

20:51

it sort of lingers. But be sure,

20:54

don't be like, oh, it was just a little limerence. And

20:57

then that's not really

21:00

over using that word doctor. I really

21:02

like that. I really like the word.

21:04

I haven't googled it myself yet so

21:06

I'm going to look into all the

21:08

derivations and other uses. And yeah, that is

21:10

a real word, right? I'm not being punked

21:12

on your podcast, am I? I

21:15

don't know. If you are, I am too. Because

21:19

I'm falling for it. It sounds like a

21:21

real word. And you know, this person's from

21:23

the UK. I feel like they, you

21:26

know, I always feel like they

21:28

know more words than... These words

21:31

like shag. Yeah, shag

21:33

and limerence. They're

21:37

all sexual. Yeah,

21:41

that person needs to talk to their spouse. Yes,

21:43

don't hide that. And you might

21:45

have a conversation where you figure something

21:47

out about yourself and you can move

21:50

on from this limerence. You know, it

21:52

might not even be a

21:54

conversation where you talk with your spouse

21:57

and then you realize you have

21:59

to part ways. It might just

22:01

be that the conversation opens up

22:03

the problem area that that you're

22:05

having that's distracting you and you

22:07

can Tackle that yeah, so

22:10

Ola best of luck with your lime rinse now

22:13

that we know what that is so and

22:15

thank you for teaching us that word Yeah,

22:17

Sanjay this one comes from one of

22:20

your future colleagues single

22:22

in scrubs right I'm

22:26

a perpetually single lesbian in

22:28

her late 20s and a doctor in

22:30

training I came out in the

22:32

middle of a super busy time in my

22:35

life in med school and now I'm even

22:37

busier Working 80 hours a week as a

22:39

resident. I really want the companionship of a

22:41

committed relationship And I've

22:43

dated here and there but I

22:46

feel like my unpredictable schedule and

22:48

lack of experience in relationships Honestly

22:50

makes me a pretty lousy partner. How

22:52

can I show the girl? I just

22:54

started seeing that I'm committed to being

22:57

a good partner when my job demands

22:59

so much of my time and energy

23:02

Did you run into that? Yeah after

23:05

med school I did seven years of training and I

23:07

did a year of fellowship and you

23:09

know, it's a hundred hours a week Some

23:12

of these years. It's just very

23:14

challenging to have friends Let

23:17

alone relationships. Yeah, you know, it's just very hard

23:19

to make plans So, you

23:21

know, I would not sugarcoat what this

23:24

person is asking at all On

23:26

the other hand when I found the right person and

23:28

it was maybe later in life I

23:31

was in my mid 30s when you

23:33

know, we finally sort of settled down and

23:35

things like that but I

23:38

think you got to find you got to make sure

23:40

the person is very aware of your your schedule and

23:43

your life and and all that and You

23:45

probably you know want to spend time with this

23:47

person And so

23:49

they see your life You know

23:51

if you're thinking about settling down that they really understand

23:53

your life Of course, you want them to understand you

23:55

but the unpredictability of that is

23:58

something that people do have to get used to and

24:00

it's not for everybody. Yeah, and

24:02

I think you can feel when somebody's

24:04

serious and committed. Even

24:07

if somebody's really busy, I

24:09

always am amused when somebody will

24:12

be interested in an actor

24:14

and they'll say, yeah,

24:16

I sent them a text, but I haven't heard

24:18

back, but I know they're filming a movie. And

24:21

I know when I'm

24:24

filming a movie, I have a lot of

24:26

downtime. When I'm sitting

24:28

in the makeup chair and getting my

24:30

hair and makeup done, or I'm in

24:33

between scenes, when

24:36

somebody's into you, you can feel it.

24:38

And if they know that your

24:41

life is busy, when

24:43

you take time to spend

24:46

the moments that

24:48

you have free with this person, I think

24:50

that's going to mean so much and it's

24:52

going to say so much. I

24:55

wouldn't overthink it because

24:57

they'll know. They will know.

24:59

Yeah. Be careful about resenting

25:02

the person in any way because

25:04

of schedule and things like that.

25:07

You don't want to feel guilty that you're

25:09

going off to do your work that you

25:11

think is important. And you don't want the

25:13

person to make you feel that way or

25:16

even the person's not making you feel that way, that

25:18

you're allowing yourself to feel that way because that

25:21

seems like a prescription for problems later

25:23

on. I

25:25

met my wife when I was in

25:27

my residency and it was 100 hours a

25:30

week and she was waiting

25:32

tables and I was impoverished

25:34

and so she had

25:36

food and I was hungry. And

25:38

so it started off like that

25:40

and then obviously fell in love,

25:42

but also recognized what our lives

25:44

were likely to be. Your

25:46

life, single and scrubs, will get easier probably

25:48

once you finish your residency and all that.

25:50

This will be some of the busiest times

25:52

of your life. So if you can get

25:54

through this now with this person, it's

25:57

probably a good sign. So Make sure.

26:00

The for my person our threaten

26:02

and you know and be honest.

26:04

I think whether you're really busy

26:06

the come in a doctor or

26:08

you're just a person in the

26:11

world that's not even that busy.

26:13

It's. Always I think really

26:16

good and helpful to just

26:18

tell this person. Listen.

26:20

I'm gonna have a couple of busy

26:22

days coming up but on Wednesday I

26:24

have some free time and I would

26:27

love to see you. You know if

26:29

you just communicate with. Here's.

26:31

One, I'm gonna be busy. Here's

26:33

what's going on. and and you

26:35

let this person know that you're

26:38

thinking about them and trying to

26:40

make space to see them. I

26:42

think that's gonna tell everything that

26:44

needs to be said. Yup. I

26:47

at Sunday we've reached our last listener

26:49

question. Brittany Rights.

26:52

What? Do you do when someone

26:54

you love gives you a really

26:56

thoughtful gifts? but you honestly just

26:58

don't like it? Like. They

27:01

genuinely tried really hard

27:03

and sales. The. Gently

27:05

tell them the truth or pretend to

27:07

love it. I mean it would

27:09

be awful the know what we're I'm I'm specifically here but

27:11

I'm gonna go with putin. The love it. Ah

27:14

tend to love it. Yeah, I'm an

27:16

adult think that's duplicitous really at all.

27:18

Frankly, on cause saying it's the thought

27:20

that counts as and so stay in.

27:22

A nice euphemistic thing to say, it's

27:24

a really thoughtful gifts right? as the

27:26

person said, so the person put a

27:29

lot of thought into this now. They.

27:31

May have gotten it wrong to and

27:33

from someone who thinks you lights or

27:35

maybe they've tapped into something about you

27:37

that maybe you don't even know like

27:39

you know that gets is something that

27:41

observing you they think you're going to

27:43

like me who I would actually take

27:46

a step further not only pretend to

27:48

like it but actually like it. Like

27:50

like learn to understand why they gave

27:52

it to you by my wife One

27:54

C C Am I hate. jelly

27:56

sandwiches i just i don't know what it is

27:58

i don't like the idea I

28:01

mostly don't eat meat in the first place.

28:03

So like stacked meat like that on bread

28:05

like it. I can't even Just

28:08

and then one time I was super hungry and she's like I'll

28:10

get us some food and she came back with the deli sandwich

28:12

And we've been married for like 15 years at this point and

28:14

I thought does she even know me? Right

28:17

and it's too long to get into all the reasons why

28:19

she did it But it was thoughtful

28:21

and she was taking care of me and I

28:23

appreciated it. Yeah, so pretend you like

28:25

it and learn to like it What

28:27

do you say? Yeah, I feel like I

28:29

was just picturing like what if Stephanie bought

28:31

me a ring that I Would

28:36

not Pick out

28:38

for myself. I Would

28:41

be so touched. I think

28:43

I would find it endearing and

28:46

Touching. Yeah, by the way, you'll appreciate this.

28:48

I'll just tell you really quickly You

28:51

may not know this but the Dalai Lama. I was

28:53

just going off because you're vegan. He

28:55

doesn't eat meat His whole thing is

28:58

he won't eat anything that is sentient

29:00

But here's the thing. He doesn't do anything

29:02

that is sentient that has a sense of

29:04

itself Indian beings but

29:07

and this surprised me if he

29:10

goes somewhere and is offered meat he will

29:12

eat it and I

29:14

asked him why and he said he would do

29:16

that because It's the

29:18

graciousness of the host and he wants to be

29:20

a good guest Which I

29:22

thought was really very interesting that he put

29:25

that Above even

29:27

his is sort of pretty strict

29:29

abidance by not eating sentient things

29:32

Well, Brittany, we hope that

29:34

helps and Sanjay, that's

29:36

all of our listener questions, but

29:39

I need you to stick around for a final

29:41

segment. We call Come back

29:43

to me later Okay

29:52

Dr. Gupta Everyone wishes they had

29:54

the perfect response at the ready

29:56

for certain social interactions. Come back

29:59

to me. Later is the segment

30:01

where we make that wish come

30:03

true. Here's how it works. Were

30:05

going to repeat some of the

30:07

excuses on vaccinated folks have said

30:09

about their reason for not getting

30:11

a covert vaccine. Sourced from the

30:14

Internet. Our job. Is to come

30:16

up with the perfect response. Okay,

30:18

the up I'll do my best. Here's.

30:20

What the and vaccinated said? We

30:23

don't know what the long term side

30:25

effects are. Not

30:28

knowing the long term side effects

30:31

as a fair question is what

30:33

we know about these vaccines is

30:35

that they almost entirely turn your

30:37

own body into vaccine making. So

30:39

you're not changing your dna. You're

30:42

not doing anything that would cause

30:44

long term effects doesn't affect pregnancy.

30:46

just says he. a Logically the

30:48

way the vaccines works, they don't

30:51

cause long term impact on the

30:53

body. New tests we can

30:55

deal with the side effects of

30:57

Co The nineteen another health challenges

30:59

through natural supplements and vitamin D

31:01

and diet rather than vaccination and

31:04

medicine. You know, people have

31:06

been giving this argument for a long

31:08

time. I mean, going back to the

31:10

Nineteen eighteen Flu pandemic. Some of what

31:12

we're going through is not new, but

31:14

look, six hundred thousand people in the

31:16

United States alone have died and it's

31:18

not at all. of them were the

31:20

know. In need of supplements

31:22

and healthier diets? I mean, this is

31:25

a bad disease. I wish it weren't

31:27

the case, but it's a bad disease.

31:29

Yeah, there's always good reason to be

31:31

healthy. and we know things like obesity

31:34

can be a real risk factor here.

31:36

but the virus doesn't care sometimes. no

31:38

matter what, they can make your really

31:40

sick him in some cases you could

31:42

die. So we have this wonderful supplement.

31:45

In this case, the vaccine that actually

31:47

teaches your body how to be even

31:49

better what it already does. I've

31:52

taken it, My parents have taken at my

31:54

kids have taken it. I would recommend it

31:56

to you as well. i

31:58

already done so that And just

32:00

to be clear, I haven't had COVID. That

32:03

was just one of the questions. When

32:06

you've had COVID, you do develop

32:08

immunity. There's no question. That's

32:11

kind of what the process is. You're infected

32:13

and your body makes all these antibodies and

32:15

other types of things that are called cells

32:17

to fight off the infection. What

32:20

I have learned looking at the data,

32:22

and this is emerging data, is

32:24

that the type of protection you get from

32:26

the vaccine is much

32:29

better than what you get

32:31

from naturally acquired immunity. We know

32:33

in countries around the world, there are

32:35

people who are previously infected with COVID

32:37

who are now getting reinfected and developing

32:39

serious illness. The vaccine is

32:41

just going to give you broader and more durable protection.

32:43

We didn't know that for sure in the beginning. Of

32:46

course, we didn't even know we'd have a vaccine. But

32:48

a recent study came out that said

32:50

you are basically twice as likely to

32:52

become reinfected, at least from natural immunity,

32:54

than with the vaccine. So even

32:56

if you've had it, go ahead and still get vaccinated. Yeah.

33:00

Thanks for those responses, Sanjay. Hopefully

33:03

that's helpful to some of our

33:05

listeners out there having difficult conversations

33:07

with loved ones. Hope so. We've

33:10

reached the end of the show. It's

33:12

been such a pleasure to see you again

33:14

and talk to you. Thank

33:16

you. I really appreciate you taking

33:18

the time to be here with

33:21

us and traveling with that huge

33:23

microphone just for me. I

33:25

can't even believe it. It was well worth it.

33:28

I'm happy that I did it. No regrets at all. Do

33:31

you have anything you'd like to

33:33

promote and see your career get

33:36

a massive bump by mentioning it

33:38

on my podcast? No,

33:41

I don't want to do that at all, actually. I

33:43

just wanted to have this conversation with you. I

33:46

want to do it just for no reason other

33:48

than to have just pure enjoyment of chatting with

33:50

you. It's really enjoyable. It

33:52

was so good to see you. Thank you again.

33:54

Anytime. Oh,

34:02

we are human beings now.

34:07

Oh, we are human beings. I

34:16

wish that I could give you the answer.

34:20

I wish that I could make you easy.

34:24

I wish that I could put you

34:26

in your mom and put you to

34:28

sleep. So,

34:31

it's too hard in love. It's

34:36

too hard in love. It's

34:41

too hard in love.

34:44

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