In the 10th episode of 'Don't Mess With Nature', Andrew Mitchell explores the equilibrium paradox. Can natural capital and financial capital ever exist in balance when we're driven by the model of more? Don't economies only work if they get bigger and bigger? And can you really have constant growth in a finite world or, as Sir David Attenborough famously said, 'Anyone who thinks that you can have infinite growth on a planet with finite resources is either a madman or an economist.'

Buckle up for this podcast episode, where Andrew will take you on a conversational expedition into the heart of the rainforest, to find out what lessons we can learn from nature about creating a steady state that will allow our economies and our planet to keep on going. An equilibrium between natural capital and financial capital.

As a sustainable finance advisor to governments and banks and one of the original founders of the Taskforce for Nature-Related Financial Disclosure, you'll hear the latest insights into sustainable finance strategies, all given vivid colour with incredible stories from his life as an explorer and zoologist. Stay tuned for Andrew's tales of being one of the first to climb to the top of the rainforest canopy as well as surviving a shipwreck in shark-infested waters, and at the conclusion, a story from Davos and the World Economic Forum, where reimagining a new way of putting eco back into the economy is firmly on the agenda. Listen in to this fascinating episode to find out what it will take to create what we all need - wealth that's worth having.

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