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PRESENTS: Looking For Modi and a Stuff The British Stole update

Released Wednesday, 27th March 2024
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PRESENTS: Looking For Modi and a Stuff The British Stole update

PRESENTS: Looking For Modi and a Stuff The British Stole update

Wednesday, 27th March 2024
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0:00

Hello there, Mark Fennell here. Sorry it's been

0:02

so long since I've been in this feed.

0:04

It's very exciting news. We

0:06

are putting the finishing touches on the

0:08

brand new TV season of Stuff The

0:10

British Style. Eight new episodes will be

0:12

coming to you very soon on ABC

0:15

TV in Australia and CBC Canada and other

0:17

platforms around the world. Very excited to show

0:19

you. But while you're waiting, there's

0:21

something I'd like you to have a listen to.

0:23

So if you want to talk about countries left

0:26

in the wake of the British Empire, you can't

0:28

go past India. A good friend of mine, Avani

0:30

Dias, the ABC South Asia correspondent, has been

0:32

on the hunt to understand the man at

0:34

the very top of India's power, one of

0:36

the world's most popular world leaders, Narendra Modi.

0:39

He's now in charge of the most populous

0:41

nation on Earth, the world's biggest democracy. But

0:44

what makes him tick? Where did he come

0:46

from and what are his plans next for India? It's

0:49

all part of Avani and the ABC's

0:52

new podcast Looking for Modi. Here's

0:54

a taste. Sharika

0:56

kar kar or

0:58

Samayka pal pal. Narendra

1:01

Modi is one of the most

1:03

powerful people in the world. He

1:05

became India's prime minister 10 years

1:08

ago and he's changed this country

1:10

of more than a billion people.

1:13

In fact, it's overtaken China as

1:15

the most populous country on the

1:17

globe. Narendra

1:28

Modi has made India the world's

1:30

fastest growing economy. Countries like Australia

1:32

and the US are desperate to

1:35

get close to him. Before the

1:37

last time I saw someone on the stage

1:39

here was Bruce Springsteen and he didn't get

1:41

the welcome the Prime Minister Modi has got.

1:44

And he's been criticized for

1:46

threatening crucial democratic rights. Some

1:49

fear him. But when it

1:51

comes to the man himself, there are

1:53

so many myths and stories about Narendra

1:56

Modi. what

2:00

is real and what is a propaganda. I'm

2:02

Avani Dias, the ABC's South Asia

2:04

correspondent, and I've been living in

2:07

India for the last few years,

2:09

but I feel like I'm only just

2:11

peeling back the layers on who Narendra

2:14

Modi is. This is

2:16

a man about whom an awful lot

2:18

has been written and said he's been

2:20

a subject of intense scrutiny, considerable speculation.

2:23

There's his involvement with a group

2:25

called the RSS, which is either

2:27

like the Boy Scouts or a

2:29

right wing paramilitary group, depending on

2:32

who you ask. RSS

2:34

is not a political organization. You know

2:36

that we believe in man

2:38

making only. And then there's

2:40

the Hindu temple, which has recently been built

2:42

on the side of an old Muslim mosque

2:45

that was torn down by mobs

2:47

and fueled riots. There are

2:50

hundreds of Hindus just climbing over

2:52

the barbed wire fence. The sapran

2:54

flag of Hinduism is raised. Events

2:56

like that have led some to the

2:58

question whether Modi is trying to turn

3:00

India into an exclusively

3:03

Hindu country. I've gone

3:05

backwards and forwards from thinking that Modi

3:07

was a very hard line Hindu nationalist

3:10

to thinking that he was definitely not

3:12

a kind of liberalizing figure, but somebody

3:14

who is more of a modern izer.

3:16

And in the end, I think that

3:19

Modi is the ultimate power politician. He

3:21

wants to stay in power. And

3:23

that's not even all of it. He

3:26

often portrays himself as a single man,

3:28

but he has a wife who he

3:30

left decades ago and has tried to

3:32

keep quiet. But life

3:35

was absolutely vast of you know,

3:37

a poverty stricken person. There's no

3:39

doubting Narendra Modi has changed India.

3:42

When I first visited the US

3:45

as a prime minister, India was

3:47

the 10th largest economy in the

3:50

world. Today, India

3:52

is the fifth largest

3:55

of all thoseoe But

4:04

he's about to run for election again,

4:06

and the polls suggest he'll win. So

4:08

who is this man? And are

4:10

the stories he tells about his life true?

4:14

It's been hard trying to get people

4:16

to talk to me openly about Narendra

4:19

Modi. They're worried there will

4:21

be consequences. But in

4:23

my new podcast Looking for Modi, I'm going

4:25

to get some answers. I'm travelling

4:27

around India speaking to people who grew up

4:29

with him, who went to school with him

4:32

and those who've studied the way he leads

4:34

the country now. And yes, I'm

4:36

going to try and find his wife. That's

4:39

Looking for Modi, available from March

4:41

12 on the ABC Listen app

4:43

and wherever you get your podcasts.

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