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836: Why is Pope Francis Obsessed with “Rigid” Latin Mass in new papal doc? DESIDERIO DESIDERAVI [Podcast]

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836: Why is Pope Francis Obsessed with “Rigid” Latin Mass in new papal doc? DESIDERIO DESIDERAVI [Podcast]

836: Why is Pope Francis Obsessed with “Rigid” Latin Mass in new papal doc? DESIDERIO DESIDERAVI [Podcast]

836: Why is Pope Francis Obsessed with “Rigid” Latin Mass in new papal doc? DESIDERIO DESIDERAVI [Podcast]

836: Why is Pope Francis Obsessed with “Rigid” Latin Mass in new papal doc? DESIDERIO DESIDERAVI [Podcast]

Friday, 1st July 2022
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why are you so obsessed with me? remember

0:07

that meme you watching the

0:09

video? burning to see right here on the screen? i

0:12

don't know who the but she's in know sherlock

0:15

holmes why

0:17

you so obsessed with me is

0:20

pope francis so obsessed

0:22

with the ridge at latin mass we

0:24

traditional catholics are a tiny minority

0:28

very small

0:30

and he spends just so much

0:32

of his

0:34

writing

0:35

the parking

0:36

restricting

0:38

these what he calls restoration

0:40

as we're trying to restore something at actually true

0:43

we are trying to restore something because

0:46

, rigid member or with that two

0:48

three weeks ago and michael mann our talking about he

0:50

said pre shouldn't be wearing grandma's

0:52

lace to the disc priests and a dusty

0:55

grandma's everywhere so

0:57

i modified the mean here

1:00

the

1:00

my right your left side

1:03

why are you so obsessed with me

1:06

you ready for it drumroll please

1:10

doing

1:13

archbishop with us begin

1:16

and nineteen seventy on for was like no

1:19

got problems and bad it can to

1:22

the new math and nervous order was problematic

1:24

we gotta

1:26

the here to tradition

1:28

we need to keep the latin mass ehrlich

1:30

i don't know about that we gotta go with the new

1:33

the new stuff the new coke don't

1:35

you know archbishop were fed the new coat

1:37

taste better

1:41

then then the decline happened

1:46

then my coca cola who came out a new

1:48

product called new coke that

1:50

everybody hated

1:53

then go because it okay let's go back

1:55

coke classic we gotta keep our

1:57

brand live know the catholic church has kept

1:59

on

1:59

barreling down the highway

2:02

with the new coke what the novus ordo

2:06

and you got balloons you got

2:08

clowns you've got lay you chris

2:10

it ministers you've got alter girls

2:13

you've got beat cancer lady

2:15

who says

2:17

the

2:18

i was glad when they said on to me we

2:20

will go into the house of the lord and

2:22

as you put your hands up in the air

2:24

the either one hands run do the one hand zombie

2:27

the to hand

2:30

there was was to go i was glad when

2:32

they said on to me we will go into that

2:34

house or that on okay see

2:36

you at all that stuff going on

2:40

the technical abuse eucharist abuse

2:42

house falling on the floor entire chalices

2:45

of the precious blood of jesus the price reduction

2:47

falling on shag carpet all

2:50

kinds of problems and

2:53

there's a small group of people

2:56

the more traditional catholics frank

2:58

as cold as the restoration ists com

3:01

idea cbs you get like a

3:03

t shirt or coffee mug made the

3:05

says restorations or i

3:07

should get

3:08

this right here where are you so obsessed

3:10

with me and instead of

3:12

this girl's phase

3:14

help me out in the live chat who is this actress

3:17

likewise obsessed with me

3:22

who is that

3:23

i mean a live chat

3:26

we got the fair by it y u

3:28

so obsessed with the so today i'm talking

3:30

about the pope's new document which

3:33

is he says in the very first paragraph is a

3:35

clarification in explanation

3:38

of what he talked about introduced us bestowed

3:40

is traditional sodas reversed

3:42

overturn we have had some overturns

3:45

haven't we

3:46

this year overturned

3:48

i target last year

3:50

the use yeah it was

3:54

the overturned the work of oh

3:57

ben the sixteenth making

4:00

every priest in the roman catholic church

4:02

every priests in the roman right giving

4:05

them freedom the choice

4:07

the say the traditional at mass without permission

4:10

from the pope and without permission from their bishop

4:14

the youngest daughter's obliterated that

4:16

now you have to have direct permission

4:19

from rome to say the latin mass

4:21

all the other ones were grandfathered that's

4:24

what what to do they were going talk about that i'm gonna

4:26

go through when i think in

4:29

my humble a man's opinion hard

4:32

the key paragraphs have

4:35

the new document those

4:37

key paragraphs are the phylum

4:40

number one first paragraph section

4:42

section thirty one section forty

4:44

nine which is about regina section fifty

4:46

four which is about region as but also

4:50

he hints at people online

4:52

criticizing wacky liturgies

4:56

the say the sample

4:58

prices are you watching right now

5:00

you watch the dogs taylor marshall podcast

5:03

are you talking us we sending us a message

5:05

and then i think perhaps the most informative

5:08

interesting in insightful

5:10

section for helping us understand what pope

5:12

francis is up to was actually section

5:14

number sixty one so i'm going

5:16

to go through those five sections today it's a pretty

5:18

lengthy

5:19

the argument ah this

5:22

is

5:24

this is the greatest hits

5:27

and i think it'll help you understand what francis

5:29

is up to four we do that

5:31

we're gonna say a prayer

5:33

him before we pray we gotta get those

5:35

likes of people to seven hundred twenty three

5:37

of you the live the only a hundred and twenty

5:39

three like that like a one the seven ratio

5:41

we gotta get that up the

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least

5:45

one the two

5:46

like to see those numbers up or right so

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6:20

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6:22

nomine,

6:23

patris a pdf to sunday, i'm

6:25

in earnest are quiescent and shady

6:27

some to be taken on to omit vineyard to

6:29

m v of alone tough to icicle in

6:32

shallow it's in town on a notion

6:34

quotidian i'm gonna be sodium it to me

6:36

to know these debutante nostra secret

6:38

it nice to meet you must debbie tory business trees

6:41

and know some ducasse and to topsy

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on him

6:43

the libra nos a malo

6:46

man some to parlay or a pro

6:48

nobis nominee batches of beauty spirit to

6:50

something

6:51

amen

6:53

well a happy

6:54

the in the old school

6:56

calendar old school

6:59

st paul today the commemoration

7:01

of the paul yesterday

7:03

being the feast day of st peter and paul

7:05

and they give a little the boost paula

7:07

day so may think paul pray for

7:09

us if you really want to go deep on

7:11

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7:20

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7:23

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7:46

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7:50

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7:53

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8:00

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8:07

okay let's get into pope francis

8:09

paragraph number one

8:15

the name of this document is a tongue

8:17

twisters let's see if i can say it does

8:19

the dario the dharavi

8:22

my brothers and sisters

8:25

with this letter to who paragraph one

8:28

i'm reading with this letter i desire to

8:30

reach you all after having

8:32

written already only to the bishops after the

8:34

publication of the not appropriate to did see

8:36

on stoat us and i write to share

8:38

with you some reflections some reflections liturgy

8:41

the dimension fundamental for the life of

8:43

the church

8:45

the theme is vast and always reserves

8:47

and attention consideration every one of

8:49

it's aspects even so with this

8:51

letter i do not intend to treat the question

8:53

an exhaustive way i simply desire

8:56

to offer some prompts or cues

8:58

the reflections like an aide in the contemplation

9:01

of the beauty in truth of christian

9:03

celebration the end quote

9:06

so you basically saying look i dropped

9:08

this new killer bomb on the church contradicts

9:11

youngest notice the audience

9:13

was intended for bishops to go ahead and restrict

9:15

the traditional latin mass also

9:18

to restrict out oriental more the priests is

9:20

facing towards the tabernacle towards

9:23

the crucifix and his back as towards

9:25

the people these are all things are getting

9:27

shut down

9:28

right

9:29

so now he's like and by the way

9:31

traditional justice was badly received

9:35

of course traditional catholic like myself

9:37

are like will this is no good not

9:39

a fan whatsoever

9:42

but even your reverent

9:45

know this order your

9:47

conservative your neo con

9:49

your george weigel your steubenville

9:52

crowd they didn't like it so much

9:54

either it looked tyrannical

9:57

it looked anti benedict sixteen

9:59

look anti traditional and

10:02

people were to scans added didn't like so

10:06

my suspicion here again

10:09

the can't read into the soul might have any one my

10:11

suspicion here is france's the saying and

10:13

his team are saying okay now that we

10:16

need to go and do something that's more

10:18

pastore there's three

10:20

two sodas was basically a more appropriate

10:22

executive order roush

10:25

punch restrict

10:27

withdraw all

10:30

the things happening that looked pretty tyrannical

10:32

let's come back and look cost or

10:35

and honestly when you read this document it

10:37

has the

10:39

the store all

10:43

emphasis

10:44

do it right it's again and you can see this in

10:46

the opening chapters as look no i'm

10:48

not trying to be og exhaustive here much

10:50

rather be dogmatic he's just saying

10:53

quote

10:54

simply desire to offer some prompts recuse

10:56

for reflections

10:58

so this is a dialogue dot

11:00

okay now the next section

11:03

that we're gonna look at his section thirty

11:05

one this is where he gets into

11:07

the problem of being rigid and if you

11:09

know francis you

11:12

know

11:13

you don't like people being rigid and by rigid

11:15

he means latin out

11:17

orient i'm actually falling the rue

11:20

bricks wearing what he calls granny

11:22

lace breeding

11:24

like rabbits what it what else am i missing here

11:27

let me know in the

11:29

the live chat oh

11:31

by the way did anyone ever tell me the name of the actress

11:34

here ah i missed

11:36

it started ripping and i missed

11:38

it

11:39

them

11:44

here

11:45

well it's not important okay you're section

11:47

thirty one a before i mean section thirty

11:49

one i gotta give you

11:51

a definition i got explain something

11:53

he's repeatedly in this document

11:56

refers to sacrosanct and concealing

11:58

what is that zoc reasonable

12:00

zillion is the documented vatican

12:03

two that basically said we

12:05

need to up day reinvigorate

12:08

the liturgy the roman rite

12:11

needs to be adapted and modernized

12:13

for our time for pastoral

12:15

reasons that was locked

12:17

or something concealing and it has many

12:22

the justin's and many rules

12:24

and it as you know it said latin ought to be retained

12:26

was never really happened it

12:29

gives pride of place and boring chant that never

12:31

really happened within an was also some things that are

12:33

pretty wacky and soccer's on eventually and for

12:35

example it abolishes the

12:37

ancient benedictine

12:40

the monastic our of

12:42

prime there's mountains

12:44

logs prime terse sex

12:47

so on our way to vespers and com point sutter

12:49

skunk suckers on the chilean it's

12:52

really a prime it's very

12:54

odd very not traditional and kind of attack

12:57

the

12:58

the religious tradition

13:01

here is section thirty one

13:03

and you'll notice that he a couple times refers

13:05

to soccer's on the console him and back into

13:08

quote in this letter this can not dwell

13:10

with you on the richness of the passages

13:13

this passages various expressions which

13:15

i recommend to your own meditation

13:18

if the liturgy is the summit towards which

13:20

the activity the churches directed

13:22

at the same time the font from which

13:25

all her power flows that's a quote

13:27

from soccer santaquin chilean

13:29

well then we can understand

13:31

what is at stake in the liturgical

13:34

question i want to pause

13:36

here and i want to say think you pope francis

13:40

you

13:41

in that statement although i don't agree

13:44

necessary or with the citation sacrosanct

13:46

in their you right there say

13:48

something that all of us traditionalist

13:50

restoration as rigid people neoplasia

13:54

neo gnostic all the names that you throw

13:56

at your at us

13:59

a

14:00

we're trying to be silly old filial

14:03

he devoted

14:04

do you

14:06

we can agree with it

14:08

we can agree with you

14:11

because this is what is quote

14:13

what is at stake in the liturgical

14:16

question

14:18

france's is granting there is

14:21

this question now

14:23

he is one hundred percent

14:26

post

14:27

the retention and the promotional the traditional

14:29

at mass

14:31

i'm one hundred percent

14:33

in favor of the promotion and retention

14:35

introduce landmass you have

14:37

rented says next it

14:39

would be trivial to read the tensions

14:42

unfortunately present around the celebration

14:44

as a simple divergence between different

14:47

tastes concerning a prick particular

14:49

ritual form

14:51

again i'm going to pause here and say exactly

14:55

i go to the traditional latin mass not

14:58

because i have a particular

15:01

reference

15:04

and it's not a what he says a different

15:07

taste like oh you

15:09

like that mass

15:11

that synesthetic that's your taste

15:14

no just like maybe someone like

15:17

plaid and other people like stripes

15:19

and other people like solids you

15:21

know they have different tastes or some people

15:24

when you're offered you want the salmon or the

15:26

chicken cordon bleu some people are

15:28

like you know i'm more of the court are blue guy

15:30

and other people like on the sam and guy letter to

15:32

fry than everyone to sam again people

15:35

of different case now is that what the

15:37

novus auto birth auto traditional a traditional

15:39

as about

15:41

sometimes

15:43

those who don't i could hers landmasses say wales

15:45

just as is your preference

15:50

the here bread as i know it's not just the

15:52

liturgical question is not just

15:54

about different tastes

15:57

preferences

15:59

he said

15:59

the next the very next sentence francis

16:03

says the problematic is

16:05

primarily ecclesial

16:07

logical and quote what does that word ecclesia

16:09

out ecclesial logical mean well

16:12

a glacier is latin actually

16:14

comes from greek meaning the church

16:18

that last year literally

16:20

called out together is what it means

16:22

it's an assembly that's been called out that

16:25

would the greek word for church means he

16:28

saying that the liturgical question

16:30

and this tension this debate

16:32

over differences is not

16:35

about case it's

16:38

about a clean the algae how

16:40

do we see the church and

16:43

i would pause here and i would say

16:45

francis when they created the know

16:47

this auto mass they

16:49

brought in protestant can

16:52

soldiers and so

16:54

i would agree if you're changing the mass

16:56

you're changing the words and you're changing the

16:58

rubric and you're bringing protestants in the consult

17:02

and you're trying to make it more ecumenical

17:04

and more open yes francis

17:06

it is luckily the logical

17:10

because by inviting protestants

17:13

what you understand by the church

17:16

the one holy catholic

17:18

and apostolic church the it's been

17:21

changed been twisted

17:25

i'm actually the reason i want to focus on

17:27

paragraph thirty one is i'm actually

17:29

when i mean as i'm i'm surprised

17:32

that france is is being this insightful

17:35

and he's putting it out in the public so

17:39

now it's really just a debate over

17:42

much as preferences this is really

17:44

over theology

17:46

over what is the church

17:49

next sentence oh

17:51

bread to said i do not see how it is

17:53

possible to say that one

17:55

recognizes the video validity

17:58

of the council

17:59

the

17:59

it amazes me that a catholic might presume not

18:02

to do so in at the same

18:04

time not accept the

18:06

liturgical reform born

18:09

out of soccer [unk] sanctum concealed the

18:11

document that expresses the reality

18:14

of the liturgy intimately

18:16

joined the vision of church so

18:18

admirably describing lumen gent cm

18:20

and quote in here is

18:23

where we get into the debate the connection

18:25

between the novus order the

18:27

new rituals for the other six sacraments

18:31

in the relationship and the validity

18:34

the vatican two you

18:38

know you don't have to be a genius the

18:41

know that when it comes to

18:44

debate on tradition and the latin

18:46

mass

18:47

the always includes

18:50

the discussion on vatican two last

18:52

night was the feet of st peter paul have four

18:55

friends over

18:56

and we are great time

18:59

is a feast day saint peter paul eat steak

19:03

the spaniard bots brought some spanish

19:06

wine we read the quote

19:08

from ah

19:11

what is it pure giorgio for saudi i

19:13

say that right

19:14

he says when we read this to

19:17

my friend greg

19:18

sent to to me this

19:21

is today you have to

19:23

give me two cigars one for st

19:25

peter and one for st paul it's

19:27

a double feast today

19:30

we had a good time but of course we talked

19:32

a lot about landmass all these men

19:34

at and the jerusalem that mass

19:36

and

19:39

all this there were either for journey st peter's

19:41

is isaac by the debt and of course

19:44

the conversations circle

19:47

in the sand and discuss the

19:49

second vatican council that's

19:52

true the things go together there

19:54

is an odd version of the person who

19:56

attends a traditional that mass who was

19:58

ra ra ra prob

19:59

the can to vatican two was awesome

20:02

thank god for vatican two but i don't like

20:04

a nervous auto i like to go to true solid mass

20:07

those people do exist

20:09

that's a pretty small minority my experience

20:12

i would say definitely under five

20:15

percent of people going to the latin mass and

20:17

a by sunday would actually say something

20:19

like

20:20

i love vatican to thank god it's

20:22

so on point

20:24

where the vatican two t shirt and trucker

20:26

cab during the week but i like

20:28

that mass

20:32

that's rare

20:34

he says that he's amazed

20:38

he says i don't see how it's possible

20:40

quote i don't see how it's possible

20:42

to say that one it recognizes

20:44

the video the council

20:46

though it amazes me that it a catholic my presumed

20:48

not to do so at the same time not accept

20:50

the liturgical or four

20:52

wolfram i mean france's was think about

20:54

this the

20:56

novus ordo in the revision of

20:59

the bravery in the revision of the other six sacraments

21:02

that wasn't done at vatican two

21:05

vatican two and in nineteen sixty five

21:07

the novas auto mass was promulgated nineteen

21:10

sixty nine and went into effect in nineteen

21:12

seventy you have a four year gap

21:14

there it's true paul the six

21:16

who ended the council is the same poeple promulgated

21:19

the knobs auto survey is all this organic

21:21

connection

21:25

but if you read soccer something conciliate

21:28

and you randomly a ten

21:30

ten novus ordo masses so you get kind

21:32

of

21:33

a good varied dataset

21:37

you're gonna realize that that data

21:39

said does not conform zoc or something that chile

21:41

and by the way i'm not even arguing that

21:43

it should i'm saying we should go back

21:45

to the traditional roman right before nineteen

21:48

fifty five that's my personal

21:50

data on a webcam position

21:55

so there's and flippers between soccer something

21:58

console him

22:02

but there is a connection

22:05

the introduce introduction of binocular and

22:07

the revision of rights is definitely

22:10

resumed by

22:13

soccer's on a console him at vatican two he

22:17

also says here's words a little bit

22:19

this is where what the fab says and

22:21

what does this i've seen pies tenth says comes

22:23

into player he says

22:25

that just as sacrosanct can conceal

22:27

liam

22:28

has in a cliche illogical

22:31

relationship to the liturgy

22:34

that a clear geological

22:36

relationship is based

22:38

on the description of the church in

22:41

lumen jensen

22:45

where the catholic church subsists

22:48

in the church a major

22:50

shift in the understanding of the catholic

22:52

church happened

22:53

women gensemer vatican two

22:59

the francis's is making

23:01

a bold statement here he sang just

23:03

as a woman

23:05

gnc woman

23:08

broadens

23:10

what we know as the catholic church

23:12

and then that

23:14

broadening that latitude it's taken

23:16

by lumen gnc m soccer the

23:18

long term good show him the nervous order sort of

23:20

fulfill that they

23:23

go together

23:25

then he says for this

23:27

reason as i have already expressed in my

23:30

letter to all the bishops i

23:32

have felt it my duty to affirm quote

23:35

the liturgical books promulgated by

23:37

st pius to six and st

23:39

john paul two in conformity with the decrees

23:41

a vatican council to our the unique

23:44

expression of the legs around he of the roman

23:46

right that's a quote from dirt show cause notice

23:49

by the way

23:51

this is why francis canonized

23:53

papa six then

23:55

why cantonese john paul two that

23:58

is wants to canonize the also

24:00

when you want to count canonize in those order the

24:02

was gonna women jensen once

24:05

again and i think it's how does your mana insider some the

24:07

chilean

24:12

my question as a traditionalist is

24:14

he says the liturgical books promulgated by

24:16

st paul the six john paul two and

24:18

conformity the degrees about a gun to or

24:20

the unique expression of the rom night

24:24

why not

24:27

the books

24:28

that were essentially unchanged

24:31

century after century

24:33

by all

24:34

the pope's before

24:37

that it

24:38

who

24:39

why don't they get to play

24:41

this game

24:43

why is there a complete reset

24:46

the nineteen sixty nine nineteen seventy

24:50

and every pope before that in

24:52

their liturgical books are swept

24:54

away

24:57

gone

25:00

restricted

25:02

you can actually be punished in the catholic

25:04

church

25:06

by using them in observing them houses

25:08

possible

25:10

imagine going to our

25:12

eastern friends eastern catholics

25:17

and saying hey you know what we did a remix

25:22

on the divine liturgy of st john

25:24

christmas dumb you're gonna love it and

25:27

from now on you can never use that

25:29

one that you been using for

25:30

that you know two years

25:33

michael no no no no no no that's our liturgy

25:37

that yeah i know that was your

25:39

liturgy but we did a remix

25:41

on the divine liturgy and you

25:43

have to use that now that

25:45

is now because eyes the pope

25:48

and making and see a statement let

25:50

it be written so let it be done you can't

25:52

use the liturgy you've always use now

25:55

there's a new unique expression of

25:57

the eastern right churches and it's this liturgy

25:59

that i'm handing right now and if you use the old

26:01

one you're gonna get suspended and maybe to post

26:03

that i stay welcome

26:06

to my new catholic church

26:09

that's essentially that is what is happening

26:12

in the roman

26:13

there's

26:15

in the roman right

26:20

the roman rite is as old or older

26:23

in many of the eastern right

26:25

we're going to want to debate me on that

26:30

but we find

26:31

the whore

26:32

quotations

26:35

straight out of what we say in the latin mass

26:37

already and pope damages in

26:41

the late three hundred

26:43

then ambrose milan same

26:46

time period

26:47

it's there it's happening

26:49

then branch who says the non acceptance

26:52

of the liturgical reform

26:54

the also a superficial understanding

26:56

of it distracts us from the obligation

26:58

of finding responses to the questions

27:01

that i come back to repeating

27:03

how can we grow in our capacity

27:05

to live in store

27:07

and for the liturgical action

27:11

how do we continue to let ourselves be

27:13

amazed at what happens

27:15

in the celebration under our very

27:17

eyes we are in

27:19

need of a serious and dynamic

27:22

the surgical formation and quote

27:26

honestly i want to gag when i read this

27:29

and the funny thing is he says francis

27:31

as how do we continue to let ourselves

27:34

be amazed at what happens at the

27:36

celebration under our very eyes oh yeah

27:38

were amazed francis were amazed

27:40

by the balloons were amazed by the priests

27:42

is holding up a guitar and giving

27:45

everyone benediction with his guitar

27:47

were amazed by the drum set were

27:51

amazed by the eucharist ministers in

27:53

a short skirt and the high heels

27:55

i could go on and are we were

27:57

amazed by the priests doing and little boogie day

28:00

the front of a altar

28:02

were amazed when priest

28:05

change the words of sacred

28:07

scripture like instead of saying son of man

28:09

they go gender neutral and say son of human were

28:12

amazed when priests actually change

28:14

the words of the eucharist cannon

28:17

the never get punished

28:19

you feel that mass and someone finds out about

28:21

it will get called into the bishops ah but i heard about

28:23

it last night you

28:26

make up your own you kristic prayer

28:29

and remix all that kind of stuff nobody

28:31

cares

28:32

so yes francis we are

28:34

amazed at what happens in the number sort

28:38

right moving right along

28:40

we're going to paragraph forty

28:42

nine

28:45

the only be joining us we're going over the pope's

28:48

new document

28:50

he explains why he is

28:52

restricting the traditional latin mass

28:54

and promoting the know this order this

28:57

is the purpose of his document today

29:01

alright let's get started

29:04

make sure you mash their like button roy

29:07

open i noticed when you're mass that like been

29:10

works

29:11

good though

29:14

do it like it

29:16

there are forty nine as an any

29:18

art

29:19

the ours celebre on the the art

29:21

a celebration requires

29:24

different kinds of knowledge first

29:26

of all it requires an understanding of the

29:28

dynamism that unfolds through

29:30

the liturgy the action of celebration

29:33

is the place and which by means of memorial

29:35

the past mystery is made present

29:38

that to baptize to their participation

29:40

can experience within their own lives

29:43

without this understanding the celebration

29:46

easily fall into a preoccupation

29:48

with the exterior more or less refined

29:51

or into a concern

29:54

i only for rubrics more

29:56

or less

29:57

read yet there's that word read

29:59

the

30:01

so francis here is talking about

30:03

the art of celebration remember

30:07

i shall be a video with the last week

30:10

where they open up the mass in chicago

30:12

and they're playing cool and the gang

30:14

it's like sur

30:16

le braid good times

30:18

com out brown on out our of in

30:20

the lady leading the

30:22

the i guess it acquire there's really a

30:24

bad you like shake it in

30:26

a church and preserve getting

30:29

his groove on boogie action yeah

30:34

that is that the dynamism that unfolds

30:36

school liturgy that cardinal stupid

30:41

your best friend forever pope francis

30:43

is implementing in his archdiocese

30:48

and what is this dynamism

30:51

that unfolds who the liturgy

30:55

i'm is

30:57

dyno mite

31:01

the liturgy the

31:03

pre says the black and does the read

31:05

the black as the texas the prayers and

31:07

read or the rue bricks hence the know the

31:09

name rubric how we

31:11

hold his hands dirty bow

31:14

does he junior flight does he lift

31:16

up does he make the side of the cross what'd you do

31:18

it his fingers these are all the rubric

31:20

so

31:22

the way man i

31:25

don't want any jazz

31:27

hands dynamism

31:31

shake it

31:33

the lab

31:35

break i don't want any other i

31:37

am there

31:39

i mean we love your father

31:40

we support your father we pray for

31:42

you but when i come to mass i

31:45

don't wanna go to the jimmy kimmel show

31:47

and replacing the priest naina

31:49

that's not your show items on there for jesus

31:52

i want to witness the holy sacrifice if

31:54

i'm in a state of grace and i may be aggressive

31:57

fast i want to receive holy communion

32:00

hopefully worthily

32:03

the receive grace for another week

32:05

to live in this valley of tears and

32:08

to become a saint

32:09

that's what it's all about me so father

32:12

i don't want dynamism i

32:14

just want you say the black

32:16

and do the red

32:19

the holy sacrifice

32:21

it shouldn't be

32:23

somber

32:25

in there should be a concern for the

32:27

rubric

32:30

the he says if you

32:32

don't want to fall into a preoccupation with

32:34

the exterior

32:37

the weird thing is is when you have balloon masses

32:39

and clown masses and shake your you know what

32:41

masses there is a preoccupation

32:44

with the exterior

32:46

cs lewis's an angle can is not a catholic

32:50

he did as this to say about the liturgy

32:52

i'm paraphrasing he

32:54

says when says man and man woman

32:57

have properly learned how to dance dance

33:00

like the walls

33:02

i'm well practiced in

33:04

doing the walters a man and my

33:06

wife is well practice and doing the walters

33:08

the walters

33:10

when we come together

33:12

and we waltz we go forward be go backwards

33:15

we twirl we spend

33:17

we're dancing

33:18

or down here in texas doing

33:21

that texas two step

33:25

if we're to stepping spend

33:28

my wife out bring her back and catcher

33:30

with my hand i can guide her and tell

33:32

her what's going on a communicate with her and our

33:35

seats are doing a texas two step

33:38

right

33:39

we're thinking man wears taylor marshall going

33:41

right now

33:43

what is an item on know miss order on that mass

33:45

listen to it wasn't

33:48

my wife and i

33:50

are good at the texas two step

33:52

and we danced a lot together his

33:56

long as that texas two step

33:58

is happening down at our feet

34:01

the gays between my eyes

34:03

and her eyes

34:04

the smile

34:06

the response the

34:08

tenderness of my hand moving her in

34:10

certain ways all

34:13

that intimacy all that fun

34:15

all that romance happens in

34:17

texas two step or if you're from

34:19

europe in the waltz

34:23

that relationship the interior

34:26

not just the exterior the interiors express

34:28

for me to her and or to me if

34:31

you're dancing with someone

34:33

what if i'm dance who i lived in texas two step

34:36

and ah my younger broke break into that

34:38

electric slide in in know it's gonna wreck

34:40

the dance instead

34:42

of doing a texas two step i say you know what

34:46

i'm going to do the for step on the make up the forced

34:48

upon a do my own thing now

34:50

suddenly

34:51

i'm stepping on her feet she's looking

34:53

down she's frustrated she's looking

34:56

around other be like what is that person doing

34:58

they don't know how to dance

35:00

stepped on her foot again

35:04

now cs lewis he didn't say i apartheid was

35:06

me but cs lewis says

35:09

you know if long as you keep your feet

35:11

in the way that they're supposed to go

35:14

the walk

35:15

you're following the rubric

35:18

the gays

35:20

of the man in the woman the romance

35:22

and the fun

35:24

the intimacy happened on the dance

35:26

floor

35:27

you sir screwing around with the dance

35:29

or so the bands are screwing around with

35:31

the beat suddenly you're now looking

35:33

at your feet and step on each other

35:36

that's what happened to the know sordo we

35:38

all go there we all expect this is

35:40

how mass goes this is what should happen

35:43

we go from point a to b to see to

35:45

d all the way to z

35:47

right eat meat as blessing last

35:50

gospel if your traditional the

35:53

breeze comes and and he starts making up his

35:55

own staff and blessing people with his guitar

35:58

and shaken is getting his group

35:59

var en up on the altar suddenly

36:02

we're all look at her feet or i'll step on or each

36:04

other and the interior

36:07

intimacy that we are supposed to have

36:09

with jesus christ has been obliterated and

36:11

broken and as wrong

36:14

so france's is saying that the old

36:16

way is a preoccupation with the exterior

36:18

but i would argue it's the exact opposite

36:21

when you have priests clowning around

36:23

it's making everyone hyper focused

36:26

on the exterior and we're losing the interior

36:28

connection with jesus

36:32

you agree

36:34

the national like button rather

36:37

than says then it is necessary to know

36:39

how the holy spirit acts and every celebration

36:43

the art of celebrating must

36:45

be in harmony with the action of the spirit

36:48

only in this way will be free from the subject

36:51

of isms that of the fruit of individual taste

36:53

dominating

36:54

cause which is exactly the opposite

36:59

we like to stream at thirty minutes been happening

37:01

at thirty minutes but we're back the

37:04

are you back good job i'm like well

37:07

was good right

37:09

back to reading i don't know where the stream broke

37:11

ass on is gonna go

37:13

a little bit

37:15

the artist celebrating must be a harmony

37:17

with the action of the spirit only this way will be

37:19

free the subject of isms out of the fruit of individual

37:21

taste dominating that's exactly

37:23

what the opposite of what happened and the know

37:25

sort of individual taste do

37:27

take over the talks about it was you

37:29

know the invasion of cultural elements

37:32

i'll tell you what

37:35

there's all kinds of invasion not just

37:37

of cultural

37:39

elements but indigenous religion

37:41

that's brought into the nose or

37:43

it's not just in culture ration credit

37:47

sing think what islam invading

37:49

into the liturgy

37:52

then he says finally is ness or to understand

37:54

the dynamics of symbolic

37:56

language and particular nature

37:58

it's f efficacy

37:59

no idea what that sentiments

38:03

and if you're interested in symbolic language

38:06

pope francis i would highly recommend the restoration

38:09

the latin we're

38:12

now moving on to the last two paragraphs

38:14

are going to focus on parrot section fifty

38:17

four and section sixty

38:19

one you're a section

38:21

fifty four in which

38:23

he gives us a different styles

38:26

of celebrating mass at all different styles

38:29

the we go

38:30

if it is true that the artist

38:32

celebrating is required of the entire assembly

38:35

that celebrates it is like why

38:37

and that's interesting right there

38:39

not the priests who celebrates the entire

38:42

assembly is celebrate that

38:45

to get everybody up around that alter give everybody

38:47

a job

38:48

he said it is like ways it true

38:50

that ordain minister as must have a very

38:52

particular concern for

38:55

it in visiting christian communities

38:57

i've noticed that there a way of living the liturgical

38:59

celebrations conditions

39:01

for better or unfortunately for worse

39:04

right away in which their pastor presides

39:07

in the assembly we

39:09

could say that there are different models

39:12

of presiding here

39:14

is a possible list of approaches

39:17

which even though opposed to each

39:19

other a characterize away presiding that is certainly

39:21

an adequate and then here he goes i

39:23

want to say

39:25

holy father wouldn't

39:29

solve the issue entirely of the priest

39:31

turned around what

39:34

if we had it where the priests was talking to god

39:36

not to us the wasn't entertaining

39:39

us he was performing the

39:41

sacred sacrifice to god

39:43

on our behalf so we just turned him around

39:49

suddenly the community

39:51

is not conditioned his

39:53

word right away

39:55

the pasture presides an assembly

40:00

when that be a good idea

40:02

i'm gonna put that into the pope francis

40:04

suggestion by

40:06

in order to conform to pick section

40:08

fifty four here new document pope

40:10

francis are going to say that have that priests turn around

40:13

the oriental

40:15

or your the lists the

40:18

list rather

40:19

the different ways of

40:22

the art of celebration which he finds

40:24

inadequate a ready rigid

40:26

austerity where you new is gonna say that

40:28

as like number one

40:32

exasperating creativity

40:35

a spiritualized mysticism

40:38

for a practical function isn't a

40:41

rushed britain is or overemphasize

40:44

slowness

40:45

floppy carelessness or an excessive

40:47

finicky eunice

40:49

super abundant friendliness or

40:51

priestly impossibility

40:54

granted a wide range of these examples

40:56

i think that the inadequacy

40:58

of these models of presiding have a common route

41:01

the heightened personalism of the celebrating

41:03

style which at times expresses

41:06

a ploy concealed manager media

41:08

the be the center of attention i

41:10

agree amen and

41:12

amen

41:15

yes all of this is the priest

41:17

if he's a into birdies gonna be sort

41:20

of doing the priestly a possibility that extrovert

41:22

he's gonna be randomly the a jimmy kimmel

41:24

show

41:27

if he's lazy might be

41:29

do in the sloppy carelessness if

41:32

you

41:34

highly functional on the spectrum you'll be

41:36

excessive finicky nes

41:38

that's the problem francis

41:40

greece com and all different

41:42

personalities and styles

41:45

and so holy mother the church

41:47

the influence of the holy ghost third

41:50

person trinity

41:51

came up with a solution to this manifests

41:53

probably it it was called

41:56

the roman rite of the catholic church

42:00

which has been obliterated since vatican two

42:03

and on what happened in the traditional

42:06

catholic church

42:07

the roman right

42:09

is that the priest was

42:12

hit he was muted

42:15

his personality was diminished

42:18

the what the church said in or wisdom

42:20

guided by the holy ghost the church said priests

42:23

are going to wear the same clothes

42:25

like as

42:26

the collar the on when

42:29

priests go to say mass we don't want

42:31

them to were like the business

42:33

suit or a stride business sued or a

42:36

double breasted single breath know everyone's

42:39

gonna wear the same exact vestments

42:43

a priest doesn't get dumped everyone

42:45

wears the same exact set of vestments

42:48

stole jasmine right think

42:50

sir maniples

42:52

there

42:53

well what about i want to choose my own colors

42:56

nope nope no cat roman rite said we

42:58

actually have already chosen all the colors for

43:00

you in every day of the three hundred and eighty five days

43:03

we've already put a little better on your calendar

43:05

and you don't get to pick a code

43:09

well what if i

43:11

want to speak in a certain dialect

43:13

note were no out can about either were actually

43:15

rt chose everyone's gonna do latin okay

43:19

well can i make up my own prayers well

43:21

we thought of that too and we actually wrote

43:24

down every single college

43:26

every single day of the year and for all

43:28

of their future contingencies were different kinds of saints

43:31

like widows martyrs the

43:33

regions the ship's confessor

43:35

as we took care of all that

43:40

well can i kind of walk around and do

43:43

not know we actually came up with rubric

43:45

where you're supposed to stand even

43:47

at ways was a hold your hand when your post about

43:49

everything

43:51

wow so you're telling me that the roman

43:53

right up until the nineteen sixties the thought

43:55

of all of this as a way

43:58

to mute

43:59

the

43:59

live in mitigate the personalities

44:02

of priests yes and that was even why

44:04

the priest

44:05

the turned around and he's talking to god is not

44:07

talking nurse

44:09

so there's just francis is granting

44:12

a major problem in the know the sort out

44:15

failing to see that

44:18

this problem was created by the very

44:21

liturgy he's promoting if

44:23

we went back to the traditional at mass everything

44:26

he complains about this paragraph would

44:28

go away

44:31

the like that

44:35

he didn't says to cause off this paragraph

44:37

after this becomes more evident when our celebrations

44:40

are transmitted

44:41

over the air or online

44:45

something not always opportune and that needs

44:47

further reflection be sure

44:49

you understand me

44:51

these are not the most widespread behaviors

44:54

but still not infrequently assembly

44:56

suffer from does being abused

44:59

and quo i'm

45:02

excited about this because it means in

45:04

rome the

45:06

vatican they know

45:08

that we lay people are

45:11

watching these whacked out liturgies the

45:13

cool and the gang liturgy

45:15

a break

45:18

good

45:22

clown masses the balloon masses

45:27

the like have half naked men

45:30

run around to the beat of drums

45:34

every december twelve and guadalupe

45:40

and i live on a while loop

45:42

these enshrined in my living room downstairs

45:47

yes the grover t shirts i've often told the

45:49

story i'll say it again to the to the new

45:51

audience finally

45:54

the ib i was an episcopal priest i

45:57

became a catholic when i became a

45:59

catholic i knew

45:59

that masses out there but i didn't have much experience

46:02

with

46:03

there's an episcopal priest we actually had mass

46:05

with priests deacon sub deacon we

46:08

had dumb attic we had to undergo we had

46:10

ultra rails so when i became a catholic

46:12

in the nose order which was in two

46:14

thousand six i was like

46:16

man these a whim transplant she asian but

46:18

they act like protestants

46:21

the with this

46:23

so it took me about four

46:25

years

46:27

you discover the traditional landmass

46:29

and start going to the latin mass and then join a latin

46:31

mass pairs which of the fraternity of st peter for me

46:34

that was in two thousand and ten twelve years ago

46:36

for me

46:40

so i went through the journey but

46:42

one of the

46:44

trigger points

46:46

the flashpoint for me to say forget

46:48

the know this order

46:49

i'm gonna land mass

46:51

this is it i'm done

46:53

i was at the university

46:56

of dallas as reagan my phd to

46:58

count with universe

46:59

that has a church in the rounds

47:01

the not attractive but no big secret no

47:05

offense to all the alumni and

47:07

brothers and sisters from university dogs but we get

47:09

all admit can't we that the chapel

47:12

not attractive they should make that into

47:14

a play house or

47:17

music hall and build something more beautiful

47:19

my humble recommendation

47:21

anyway i was in there and over sort of

47:23

i'd walked out before because a dominican

47:26

priest was reading the gospel

47:28

once and he made the entire lesson

47:30

gender inclusive including

47:33

calling jesus as at of son of man son

47:35

of human and then incentive saying through

47:37

him with them in him in the unity the holy spirit

47:39

he said through christ with christ in christ

47:41

so everywhere there was a him in the liturgy

47:44

and by him i mean h i m or

47:46

he h e e change gender

47:48

inclusive that of the old dominican pretty dumb i

47:50

walked out of that matters the first mass i ever walked

47:53

out of this

47:55

is young taylor marshall

47:58

mail the dad probably

47:59

four five kids

48:01

that a when gray or anything

48:04

later on

48:06

maybe a year so later

48:08

i was going to mass

48:11

they had lay you critic ministers and i always

48:13

did yeah was always a the

48:15

line offer lane switcher

48:17

lanes which are

48:19

i was orleans which are go

48:22

to the priest

48:24

the only going to labor

48:27

the animal done even though

48:29

i wasn't on a mass all like i'm not going to use my hands

48:32

on an embassy amazon

48:33

welp something happened where

48:36

i couldn't get to the priest i don't know why

48:38

so i was forced instead

48:41

to be older you aggressive minister in

48:44

the chapel at university of dallas there's

48:47

a used to be

48:48

there is no religious art in there there

48:52

is there a truck they brought in

48:54

a crucifix loot the other was a small

48:56

crucifix cat what they called steamroller

48:58

crucifix it was there but otherwise

49:00

there was nothing religious in there's whitewashed

49:04

matter but once i brought my first born son their

49:06

the first time and he said dad why are we in

49:08

protestant church

49:10

from the mouths of babes anyway

49:12

i went up for communion

49:15

then the eucharist sick minister that

49:18

i got switched over to an outside

49:21

was wearing a grover teacher

49:26

grover

49:27

sesame street the

49:29

try to pull up the grover shirt people named

49:31

it can i talk about it the over

49:34

t shirt

49:37

oh here it is this is it may

49:41

love it

49:42

he was wearing this shirt

49:44

take a moment to pull under them the

49:46

video so i go for holy communion

49:48

there's there's not a statue of mary there's

49:51

no statue of st joseph st

49:53

michael anything like that i go up

49:55

and the person is wearing this grover

49:57

teacher and says the bra

49:59

the body of christ and i'm sources say

50:02

amen and receive communion

50:05

in that moment i was like this church

50:07

is completely stripped of all religious or

50:10

it doesn't even look catholic

50:12

my young son said when he was

50:14

there with with new for why when frozen church

50:17

and i'm staring into the eyes of

50:19

grover i'm

50:21

about to receive the second person to the

50:23

most holy trinity

50:29

i'm about to receive god

50:32

the holy of holies the thrice holy

50:36

the god of israel lord

50:38

saw by off

50:41

holy god for man

50:43

how did sansa with the father

50:45

and i'm staring into the eyes

50:48

of grover

50:51

the body of christ and i'm looking grover and i'm like

50:53

this is it

50:55

i'm done i'm

50:57

done

51:01

like the ridiculous nurse the

51:04

whole thing and all the years

51:06

of frustration the liturgical

51:09

abuse and even didn't even get to receive can

51:11

be appropriate but receiving communion

51:14

i'm a college student who met well maybe

51:16

they're in good faith out on

51:18

staring into the eyes of grover

51:25

in that my friends is when i

51:27

became the traditional kept

51:33

the bar saying poor elmo no one elmo

51:35

it was grover it was this exact t shirts

51:37

this t shirt is irrevocably

51:40

and indelibly branded into

51:42

my soul thank

51:47

god the catholic church has catholics

51:49

surpluses investments there's

51:51

a reason for that otherwise

51:53

we would be receiving communion looking into

51:55

the eyes of alamo and big bird

51:58

and whatever

51:59

l a c d c or whatever t shirts

52:02

somebody wants to where

52:06

so that is the story

52:09

how taylor marshall became a trap

52:13

the all because of grover

52:16

the people said and i discuss with when i hear

52:19

the as draper says

52:21

maybe grover was ordained know he wasn't

52:24

guaranteed he wasn't he was

52:26

thanks for thanks for helping this

52:29

one here joshua says

52:31

found like the simpsons episode

52:33

when lisa became a buddhist i don't know that

52:35

i watch my simpsons

52:38

yeah so everytime i see grover now

52:40

i think thank you grover you're

52:43

the reason why i'm a tried and you're

52:45

the reason why i doubt

52:48

go

52:49

the nose auto anymore

52:51

the was my grover moment it was

52:53

my grover moment

52:55

the like a story hit the like been

52:58

okay so we're back in the

53:00

pope francis yeah i wasn't planning on telling

53:02

my grover moment but

53:05

i'm glad that i did i feel better

53:07

now that i got it off my chest

53:09

and now he those are that are new and audience

53:12

you now know my back story you

53:15

know if they ever made a prequel to my

53:17

life or a backstory that would definitely

53:19

have to be

53:20

in the in the movie

53:22

the grover seen

53:23

the powerful

53:25

very power

53:26

but other thing here

53:28

francis is aware that people

53:31

like myself and others are

53:34

critical of celebrations being

53:36

transmitted over the air or online

53:41

people say oh we don't have com as as more that was back

53:43

in the eighties we have way my we were stuff right

53:45

now twenty twenty two coven started

53:47

streaming masses the

53:49

whole world found out how totally whacked

53:54

the diocesan

53:56

liturgies look

53:58

like use i pulled him up

54:01

you know they got i phones they got their elbows

54:03

on the altar and they got the i phone out

54:05

there reading the story that the

54:08

deacon emailed arm and all this kind of stuff

54:10

a we we need

54:13

we need help in the chat we got nasty people

54:15

on a chat on them tried to quit bandra quick

54:18

yes ban is nasty people

54:22

the i recognize a faithful

54:25

regular viewer here i will quickly

54:28

make you a moderator so you can clean up these nasty

54:30

bots that com in your chats

54:34

okay let's go to the last section

54:37

then i want to focus on today and as section

54:39

sixty one

54:41

the to me is the most interesting i

54:44

was able to riff on some the other ones but this one

54:46

right here i think if you could only if someone

54:48

said to me taylor i i just want to read one

54:50

part of the pope's new document on liturgy

54:52

what should i do ya bigger section six

54:54

you want to read that you get the hoping

54:58

the army to read it here

55:00

we go

55:02

team eggs grover at that we are

55:05

the team x grover that

55:08

and sixty one in this letter i wanted

55:11

simply to share some reflections which

55:13

most certainly do not exhaust the

55:15

a man's treasure of the celebration of

55:17

the holy mysteries i ask all bishops

55:19

priests and deacons the four majors and seminaries

55:22

the instructors and theological faculties

55:24

and school of theology and all catechism

55:26

to help the holy people of gotta draw from

55:29

what is the first wellspring of christians christian

55:31

spirituality

55:33

we are called continually to rediscover

55:35

the richness

55:36

the general principles exposed

55:38

in the first

55:39

the numbers of sacrosanct conceal him

55:42

grasping the intimate bond between this

55:45

first of the council's constitution and

55:47

all the others not this

55:50

is wanda things as as as

55:52

catholic

55:54

i'm not a cradle catholic i'm a convert

55:57

the protestant out a browser minister

55:59

this

55:59

the kind of thing that i don't get

56:02

because when i signed up to be a catholic i wanted

56:05

all twenty centuries

56:07

i was fighting i was signing under

56:09

every single century all the ecumenical

56:11

councils all the anathema us

56:14

right

56:15

the church fathers everything that's

56:17

what i came in and then once i was a catholic

56:20

for a few years

56:21

in waded into the pool of nova sorta

56:25

there's is emphasis of

56:28

that it can to only isn't

56:30

like everything before is no and

56:32

void because vatican two

56:37

father was sort of attorney of st peter used

56:39

to say the

56:42

difference between a modernist

56:44

in a traditionalist is this a

56:47

modernist

56:48

views everything and church

56:51

history all doctor and all morality

56:53

through the lens of today

56:56

and are enlightenment in our time

56:58

right now

57:00

the traditionalist

57:02

interprets today

57:04

the event today

57:06

in light of all

57:09

the tradition the doctrine

57:11

that came before

57:14

john is damn follow or said the

57:16

modernist interpret all of history

57:18

and tradition in terms of today

57:21

the modern moment the traditional

57:23

is interpreting did they now

57:26

in light of everything that came before

57:29

who different set of goggles

57:32

looking at reality

57:36

in the vatican two only people

57:38

are the modernists

57:40

they interpret everything the vatican two though

57:44

like if you watch bishop baron

57:47

he'll say yeah but vatican two

57:50

yeah but vatican two yabba vatican two

57:52

you put something in the history the church

57:55

something that

57:56

dogmatic dot final moral

57:59

or out of line

57:59

what the modern church yeah but vatican

58:02

two the

58:04

traditions are saying hey we signed

58:06

on for everything from the old

58:08

testament to the new testament to the

58:10

church fathers of the pope's all the major magisterium

58:13

and an hour into the nineteen hundreds into

58:15

the two thousand and this and stuff going

58:18

on it's not really fitting with the old stuff and we

58:20

want have a conversation about that we

58:23

want to stick with our default position of

58:25

all the old stuff traditional liturgy

58:27

traditional more morality traditional doctrine

58:29

until we get all this new stuff figured

58:32

out and clarify that's

58:34

really what archbishop of of was

58:36

the people

58:37

i see this again hear you

58:40

think we are continually called

58:43

we are called continually to rediscover the richest

58:45

richness of attic and do that

58:47

doesn't consume why

58:49

are we call to constantly

58:53

rediscover and i see a

58:55

one and

58:57

content know but one and

58:59

the council emphasis in the council coulson

59:02

on the council contents apple two and content

59:04

or three and the council of my see a to

59:08

cardinal before yeah

59:10

would rent why

59:13

does this one

59:16

have special powers

59:21

practices for this reason we cannot

59:23

go back to that ritual

59:25

form which the father's cool petro

59:28

it sub petro

59:29

felt the need to reform

59:32

this is the authoritative statement

59:35

he er en france

59:37

for this reason because we're always going

59:39

back to vatican two weaken not

59:41

go back

59:43

to the ritual

59:46

for vatican two

59:47

that's the definitive decision

59:50

i liked objects

59:54

you get it

59:56

this is why i think section sixty

59:58

one

59:59

this really francis lane at all out

1:00:02

force

1:00:03

because our spirituality

1:00:05

has to constantly rediscover vatican two

1:00:09

therefore he says quote

1:00:11

we cannot go back to that ritual

1:00:15

the old ritual

1:00:17

the latin mass

1:00:19

the all sacramento rituals

1:00:21

the all bravery for him it's obliterated

1:00:24

vatican two obliterated the

1:00:26

old ritual

1:00:27

there is no return to it's garners

1:00:31

this is the pope francis

1:00:33

you know

1:00:37

he says

1:00:39

that the church fathers felt the need

1:00:41

to reform approving under the guidance

1:00:43

of the holy spirit and falling their consciences

1:00:45

pastors the principles from

1:00:47

which were born the reform and here's what

1:00:49

really bothers me about that

1:00:51

why does the liturgy

1:00:53

reformed according to the conscience of pastors

1:00:56

and not according to tradition

1:00:59

not according to

1:01:01

what has been received

1:01:03

the church

1:01:04

suddenly the conscience of passers

1:01:06

in the twentieth century gets to veto

1:01:11

the organic development of nineteen

1:01:13

hundred plus years

1:01:15

how does that make sense the

1:01:18

conscience of pastors

1:01:22

those are the it has the principles from which

1:01:25

was born the reform

1:01:26

the conscience

1:01:28

not scripture not tradition

1:01:30

not magisterium not previous

1:01:32

popes but the conscience because

1:01:35

the vatican two religion is salvation

1:01:37

by conscience

1:01:40

you just follow your caught it well i wanna

1:01:43

bore babies and be on the pill my whole

1:01:45

life your

1:01:47

vatican two jesuit says what that's your conscience

1:01:49

that's how you get to have

1:01:52

if you say

1:01:54

i want to get divorced and remarried five times

1:01:57

is like war you okay in your conscience with that yes

1:01:59

going to heaven

1:02:02

the vatican two religion is salvation

1:02:04

by your conscience and there's no talk

1:02:07

of forming conscience look what happened

1:02:09

yesterday nancy pelosi

1:02:12

for the overturn roe v wade got

1:02:14

up on tv and talked about how wicked evil

1:02:16

the whole thing was we gotta go back to a boarding

1:02:18

babies and giving people the right to have more babies

1:02:21

and as you jet sets over the vatican meet

1:02:23

of pope francis take photos goes

1:02:25

to mass receive communion makes a public

1:02:27

statement about

1:02:34

in francis has the gall to issue an issue

1:02:36

this to us that anyone correct

1:02:38

or conscience the was a here you know

1:02:40

killing babies not cool catholics don't do

1:02:42

it

1:02:44

no

1:02:44

smile me took the photos

1:02:47

so if pope read his okay with

1:02:49

leaving those consciences unchecked why

1:02:51

should we care about the content is of passers

1:02:53

you want to change

1:02:55

abuse

1:02:57

the permit and and mutate

1:03:01

the roman liturgy forget that

1:03:05

what if someone says well my conscience i'm going to where the

1:03:08

grover sure when i was when i give communion

1:03:12

current pope francis they have that

1:03:15

right they should be doing that i

1:03:18

say

1:03:19

not to the na na

1:03:22

i'm gone back to grower i burn

1:03:24

the ships never

1:03:26

gone back to grover sober and

1:03:29

then our last day when they're going to go today

1:03:31

the holy potter's st paul the

1:03:34

six and st john paul two

1:03:36

approving the reform would turn to the books in

1:03:39

actor credo soccer sunday ecu manage

1:03:41

he conceded he by the

1:03:43

connie to have

1:03:46

guaranteed the fidelity

1:03:48

other reform of the council so here this is

1:03:50

why canonized paul the sex and john

1:03:52

paul two nothing

1:03:55

to do with poland communism a night dad

1:03:57

had to do he needs to canonize

1:03:59

or of letters

1:03:59

the books

1:04:01

how do you can either liturgical books you say well

1:04:04

the two pope's who approved i'm they're

1:04:07

both sides air go

1:04:10

we can't get rid of these books

1:04:14

and i say

1:04:17

let's look at on the merits of truth i

1:04:19

don't care

1:04:21

who promulgated the books

1:04:24

john paul two kids the book called the

1:04:26

koran i don't want the koran read

1:04:28

in my mass

1:04:31

people make mistakes if

1:04:34

you can make a mistake and kiss the quran you can make

1:04:36

a mistake on the liturgy that

1:04:38

is that for

1:04:41

this reason francis says i wrote traditional

1:04:43

owners custodian that the church

1:04:45

may lift up

1:04:47

in a variety of so many languages

1:04:50

one and the same prayer capable

1:04:52

of expressing her unity

1:04:54

and

1:04:55

so there's the endorsement of vernacular

1:04:57

to the detriment

1:04:59

have night

1:05:01

and under stop there you can read the whole thing

1:05:04

at vatican dot v a

1:05:06

the under francesco

1:05:08

and there is the german

1:05:10

the english the spanish the french and the italian

1:05:13

translation you can read the whole thing those

1:05:15

were my

1:05:16

hop five sections

1:05:19

the in the document disa darrow

1:05:22

the and knock yourself out if

1:05:24

you wanna

1:05:25

read more for or yeah here's a picture of

1:05:28

nancy pelosi

1:05:30

kill it

1:05:32

francis near here the mass

1:05:38

they got those photos

1:05:40

this way

1:05:41

when people say aren't you catholic how are

1:05:43

you supporting ah a return

1:05:45

to roby wait i thought you were catholic about

1:05:47

you are gathered on the couch your cc allows just

1:05:49

chilling with the pub with this picture being an hour i

1:05:52

would demand for the pope

1:05:55

the got my back

1:05:57

i can kill babies have tax

1:05:59

money your babies and i could still can hang with the

1:06:01

pope

1:06:02

kick it

1:06:04

that's the plan the publicity stunt right

1:06:08

on a sign off here before i do on going

1:06:10

to urge you and beg you to pray the rosary

1:06:13

every day and the put our lady over our our

1:06:15

of rover

1:06:16

pray the rosary everyday if you don't pray the rosary

1:06:19

you're not on the team

1:06:22

the rosary every single

1:06:24

day

1:06:27

you'll be blessed

1:06:28

the rosary at bible on beads

1:06:30

you need it your

1:06:32

spouse needs that your kids need regular

1:06:36

everyday read the bible every day be

1:06:38

a saint be kind find

1:06:40

it her slot mass if erasures like mass

1:06:42

this week hatched five

1:06:45

people invite them to come to your tercel

1:06:47

that mass was grow it introduce

1:06:50

people it's all about introducing

1:06:53

people jesus it's all about learning

1:06:55

to dance weather's the waltzer the to step

1:06:57

we get our feet right then

1:06:59

we can gaze into the eyes of jesus christ

1:07:01

the bridegroom of the church and become

1:07:03

sex and be saved and go to heaven

1:07:06

that the go

1:07:08

thanks for watching mash the

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are you going to pray they'll marry now ave maria

1:07:51

nominee potteries of beauty it's better to sunday amen

1:07:53

of maria grazia planet dominance taken

1:07:56

benedicta to money at ibu said benedictus

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fruit to spend she's two years santa

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maria mater dei he or perino

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be stuck a tory booze no get a dorm

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ortiz nostrils

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