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why are you so obsessed with me? remember
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that meme you watching the
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video? burning to see right here on the screen? i
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don't know who the but she's in know sherlock
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holmes why
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you so obsessed with me is
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pope francis so obsessed
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with the ridge at latin mass we
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traditional catholics are a tiny minority
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very small
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and he spends just so much
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of his
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writing
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the parking
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restricting
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these what he calls restoration
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as we're trying to restore something at actually true
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we are trying to restore something because
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, rigid member or with that two
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three weeks ago and michael mann our talking about he
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said pre shouldn't be wearing grandma's
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lace to the disc priests and a dusty
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grandma's everywhere so
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i modified the mean here
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the
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my right your left side
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why are you so obsessed with me
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you ready for it drumroll please
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doing
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archbishop with us begin
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and nineteen seventy on for was like no
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got problems and bad it can to
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the new math and nervous order was problematic
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we gotta
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the here to tradition
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we need to keep the latin mass ehrlich
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i don't know about that we gotta go with the new
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the new stuff the new coke don't
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you know archbishop were fed the new coat
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taste better
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then then the decline happened
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then my coca cola who came out a new
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product called new coke that
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everybody hated
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then go because it okay let's go back
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coke classic we gotta keep our
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brand live know the catholic church has kept
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on
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barreling down the highway
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with the new coke what the novus ordo
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and you got balloons you got
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clowns you've got lay you chris
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it ministers you've got alter girls
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you've got beat cancer lady
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who says
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the
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i was glad when they said on to me we
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will go into the house of the lord and
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as you put your hands up in the air
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the either one hands run do the one hand zombie
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the to hand
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there was was to go i was glad when
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they said on to me we will go into that
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house or that on okay see
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you at all that stuff going on
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the technical abuse eucharist abuse
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house falling on the floor entire chalices
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of the precious blood of jesus the price reduction
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falling on shag carpet all
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kinds of problems and
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there's a small group of people
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the more traditional catholics frank
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as cold as the restoration ists com
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idea cbs you get like a
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t shirt or coffee mug made the
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says restorations or i
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should get
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this right here where are you so obsessed
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with me and instead of
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this girl's phase
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help me out in the live chat who is this actress
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likewise obsessed with me
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who is that
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i mean a live chat
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we got the fair by it y u
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so obsessed with the so today i'm talking
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about the pope's new document which
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is he says in the very first paragraph is a
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clarification in explanation
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of what he talked about introduced us bestowed
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is traditional sodas reversed
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overturn we have had some overturns
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haven't we
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this year overturned
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i target last year
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the use yeah it was
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the overturned the work of oh
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ben the sixteenth making
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every priest in the roman catholic church
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every priests in the roman right giving
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them freedom the choice
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the say the traditional at mass without permission
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from the pope and without permission from their bishop
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the youngest daughter's obliterated that
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now you have to have direct permission
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from rome to say the latin mass
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all the other ones were grandfathered that's
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what what to do they were going talk about that i'm gonna
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go through when i think in
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my humble a man's opinion hard
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the key paragraphs have
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the new document those
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key paragraphs are the phylum
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number one first paragraph section
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section thirty one section forty
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nine which is about regina section fifty
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four which is about region as but also
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he hints at people online
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criticizing wacky liturgies
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the say the sample
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prices are you watching right now
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you watch the dogs taylor marshall podcast
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are you talking us we sending us a message
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and then i think perhaps the most informative
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interesting in insightful
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section for helping us understand what pope
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francis is up to was actually section
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number sixty one so i'm going
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to go through those five sections today it's a pretty
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lengthy
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the argument ah this
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is
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this is the greatest hits
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and i think it'll help you understand what francis
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is up to four we do that
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we're gonna say a prayer
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him before we pray we gotta get those
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likes of people to seven hundred twenty three
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of you the live the only a hundred and twenty
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three like that like a one the seven ratio
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we gotta get that up the
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least
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one the two
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like to see those numbers up or right so
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in earnest are quiescent and shady
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some to be taken on to omit vineyard to
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m v of alone tough to icicle in
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shallow it's in town on a notion
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quotidian i'm gonna be sodium it to me
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to know these debutante nostra secret
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it nice to meet you must debbie tory business trees
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and know some ducasse and to topsy
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on him
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man some to parlay or a pro
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nobis nominee batches of beauty spirit to
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something
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amen
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well a happy
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the in the old school
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calendar old school
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st paul today the commemoration
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of the paul yesterday
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being the feast day of st peter and paul
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and they give a little the boost paula
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day so may think paul pray for
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us if you really want to go deep on
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st paul just a quick commercial
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okay let's get into pope francis
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paragraph number one
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the name of this document is a tongue
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twisters let's see if i can say it does
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the dario the dharavi
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my brothers and sisters
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with this letter to who paragraph one
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i'm reading with this letter i desire to
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reach you all after having
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written already only to the bishops after the
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publication of the not appropriate to did see
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on stoat us and i write to share
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with you some reflections some reflections liturgy
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the dimension fundamental for the life of
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the church
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the theme is vast and always reserves
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and attention consideration every one of
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it's aspects even so with this
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letter i do not intend to treat the question
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an exhaustive way i simply desire
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to offer some prompts or cues
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the reflections like an aide in the contemplation
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of the beauty in truth of christian
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celebration the end quote
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so you basically saying look i dropped
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this new killer bomb on the church contradicts
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youngest notice the audience
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was intended for bishops to go ahead and restrict
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the traditional latin mass also
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to restrict out oriental more the priests is
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facing towards the tabernacle towards
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the crucifix and his back as towards
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the people these are all things are getting
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shut down
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right
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so now he's like and by the way
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traditional justice was badly received
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of course traditional catholic like myself
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are like will this is no good not
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a fan whatsoever
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but even your reverent
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know this order your
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conservative your neo con
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your george weigel your steubenville
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crowd they didn't like it so much
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either it looked tyrannical
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it looked anti benedict sixteen
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look anti traditional and
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people were to scans added didn't like so
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my suspicion here again
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the can't read into the soul might have any one my
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suspicion here is france's the saying and
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his team are saying okay now that we
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need to go and do something that's more
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pastore there's three
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two sodas was basically a more appropriate
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executive order roush
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punch restrict
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withdraw all
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the things happening that looked pretty tyrannical
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let's come back and look cost or
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and honestly when you read this document it
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has the
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the store all
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emphasis
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do it right it's again and you can see this in
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the opening chapters as look no i'm
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not trying to be og exhaustive here much
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rather be dogmatic he's just saying
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quote
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simply desire to offer some prompts recuse
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for reflections
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so this is a dialogue dot
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okay now the next section
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that we're gonna look at his section thirty
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one this is where he gets into
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the problem of being rigid and if you
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know francis you
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know
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you don't like people being rigid and by rigid
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he means latin out
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orient i'm actually falling the rue
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bricks wearing what he calls granny
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lace breeding
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like rabbits what it what else am i missing here
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let me know in the
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the live chat oh
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by the way did anyone ever tell me the name of the actress
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here ah i missed
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it started ripping and i missed
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it
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them
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here
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well it's not important okay you're section
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thirty one a before i mean section thirty
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one i gotta give you
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a definition i got explain something
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he's repeatedly in this document
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refers to sacrosanct and concealing
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what is that zoc reasonable
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zillion is the documented vatican
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two that basically said we
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need to up day reinvigorate
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the liturgy the roman rite
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needs to be adapted and modernized
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for our time for pastoral
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reasons that was locked
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or something concealing and it has many
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the justin's and many rules
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and it as you know it said latin ought to be retained
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was never really happened it
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gives pride of place and boring chant that never
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really happened within an was also some things that are
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pretty wacky and soccer's on eventually and for
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example it abolishes the
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ancient benedictine
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the monastic our of
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prime there's mountains
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logs prime terse sex
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so on our way to vespers and com point sutter
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skunk suckers on the chilean it's
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really a prime it's very
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odd very not traditional and kind of attack
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the
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the religious tradition
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here is section thirty one
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and you'll notice that he a couple times refers
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to soccer's on the console him and back into
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quote in this letter this can not dwell
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with you on the richness of the passages
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this passages various expressions which
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i recommend to your own meditation
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if the liturgy is the summit towards which
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the activity the churches directed
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at the same time the font from which
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all her power flows that's a quote
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from soccer santaquin chilean
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well then we can understand
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what is at stake in the liturgical
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question i want to pause
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here and i want to say think you pope francis
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you
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in that statement although i don't agree
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necessary or with the citation sacrosanct
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in their you right there say
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something that all of us traditionalist
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restoration as rigid people neoplasia
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neo gnostic all the names that you throw
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at your at us
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a
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we're trying to be silly old filial
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he devoted
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do you
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we can agree with it
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we can agree with you
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because this is what is quote
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what is at stake in the liturgical
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question
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france's is granting there is
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this question now
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he is one hundred percent
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post
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the retention and the promotional the traditional
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at mass
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i'm one hundred percent
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in favor of the promotion and retention
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introduce landmass you have
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rented says next it
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would be trivial to read the tensions
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unfortunately present around the celebration
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as a simple divergence between different
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tastes concerning a prick particular
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ritual form
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again i'm going to pause here and say exactly
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i go to the traditional latin mass not
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because i have a particular
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reference
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and it's not a what he says a different
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taste like oh you
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like that mass
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that synesthetic that's your taste
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no just like maybe someone like
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plaid and other people like stripes
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and other people like solids you
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know they have different tastes or some people
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when you're offered you want the salmon or the
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chicken cordon bleu some people are
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like you know i'm more of the court are blue guy
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and other people like on the sam and guy letter to
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fry than everyone to sam again people
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of different case now is that what the
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novus auto birth auto traditional a traditional
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as about
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sometimes
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those who don't i could hers landmasses say wales
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just as is your preference
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the here bread as i know it's not just the
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liturgical question is not just
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about different tastes
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preferences
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he said
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the next the very next sentence francis
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says the problematic is
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primarily ecclesial
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logical and quote what does that word ecclesia
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out ecclesial logical mean well
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a glacier is latin actually
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comes from greek meaning the church
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that last year literally
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called out together is what it means
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it's an assembly that's been called out that
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would the greek word for church means he
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saying that the liturgical question
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and this tension this debate
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over differences is not
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about case it's
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about a clean the algae how
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do we see the church and
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i would pause here and i would say
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francis when they created the know
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this auto mass they
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brought in protestant can
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soldiers and so
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i would agree if you're changing the mass
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you're changing the words and you're changing the
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rubric and you're bringing protestants in the consult
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and you're trying to make it more ecumenical
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and more open yes francis
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it is luckily the logical
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because by inviting protestants
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what you understand by the church
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the one holy catholic
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and apostolic church the it's been
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changed been twisted
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i'm actually the reason i want to focus on
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paragraph thirty one is i'm actually
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when i mean as i'm i'm surprised
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that france is is being this insightful
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and he's putting it out in the public so
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now it's really just a debate over
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much as preferences this is really
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over theology
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over what is the church
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next sentence oh
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bread to said i do not see how it is
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possible to say that one
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recognizes the video validity
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of the council
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the
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it amazes me that a catholic might presume not
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to do so in at the same
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time not accept the
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liturgical reform born
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out of soccer [unk] sanctum concealed the
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document that expresses the reality
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of the liturgy intimately
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joined the vision of church so
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admirably describing lumen gent cm
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and quote in here is
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where we get into the debate the connection
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between the novus order the
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new rituals for the other six sacraments
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in the relationship and the validity
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the vatican two you
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know you don't have to be a genius the
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know that when it comes to
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debate on tradition and the latin
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mass
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the always includes
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the discussion on vatican two last
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night was the feet of st peter paul have four
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friends over
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and we are great time
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is a feast day saint peter paul eat steak
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the spaniard bots brought some spanish
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wine we read the quote
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from ah
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what is it pure giorgio for saudi i
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say that right
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he says when we read this to
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my friend greg
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sent to to me this
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is today you have to
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give me two cigars one for st
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peter and one for st paul it's
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a double feast today
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we had a good time but of course we talked
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a lot about landmass all these men
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at and the jerusalem that mass
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and
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all this there were either for journey st peter's
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is isaac by the debt and of course
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the conversations circle
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in the sand and discuss the
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second vatican council that's
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true the things go together there
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is an odd version of the person who
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attends a traditional that mass who was
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ra ra ra prob
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the can to vatican two was awesome
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thank god for vatican two but i don't like
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a nervous auto i like to go to true solid mass
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those people do exist
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that's a pretty small minority my experience
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i would say definitely under five
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percent of people going to the latin mass and
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a by sunday would actually say something
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like
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i love vatican to thank god it's
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so on point
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where the vatican two t shirt and trucker
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cab during the week but i like
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that mass
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that's rare
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he says that he's amazed
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he says i don't see how it's possible
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quote i don't see how it's possible
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to say that one it recognizes
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the video the council
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though it amazes me that it a catholic my presumed
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not to do so at the same time not accept
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the liturgical or four
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wolfram i mean france's was think about
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this the
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novus ordo in the revision of
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the bravery in the revision of the other six sacraments
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that wasn't done at vatican two
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vatican two and in nineteen sixty five
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the novas auto mass was promulgated nineteen
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sixty nine and went into effect in nineteen
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seventy you have a four year gap
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there it's true paul the six
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who ended the council is the same poeple promulgated
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the knobs auto survey is all this organic
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connection
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but if you read soccer something conciliate
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and you randomly a ten
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ten novus ordo masses so you get kind
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of
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a good varied dataset
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you're gonna realize that that data
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said does not conform zoc or something that chile
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and by the way i'm not even arguing that
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it should i'm saying we should go back
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to the traditional roman right before nineteen
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fifty five that's my personal
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data on a webcam position
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so there's and flippers between soccer something
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console him
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but there is a connection
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the introduce introduction of binocular and
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the revision of rights is definitely
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resumed by
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soccer's on a console him at vatican two he
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also says here's words a little bit
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this is where what the fab says and
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what does this i've seen pies tenth says comes
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into player he says
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that just as sacrosanct can conceal
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liam
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has in a cliche illogical
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relationship to the liturgy
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that a clear geological
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relationship is based
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on the description of the church in
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lumen jensen
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where the catholic church subsists
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in the church a major
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shift in the understanding of the catholic
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church happened
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women gensemer vatican two
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the francis's is making
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a bold statement here he sang just
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as a woman
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gnc woman
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broadens
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what we know as the catholic church
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and then that
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broadening that latitude it's taken
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by lumen gnc m soccer the
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long term good show him the nervous order sort of
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fulfill that they
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go together
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then he says for this
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reason as i have already expressed in my
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letter to all the bishops i
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have felt it my duty to affirm quote
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the liturgical books promulgated by
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st pius to six and st
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john paul two in conformity with the decrees
23:41
a vatican council to our the unique
23:44
expression of the legs around he of the roman
23:46
right that's a quote from dirt show cause notice
23:49
by the way
23:51
this is why francis canonized
23:53
papa six then
23:55
why cantonese john paul two that
23:58
is wants to canonize the also
24:00
when you want to count canonize in those order the
24:02
was gonna women jensen once
24:05
again and i think it's how does your mana insider some the
24:07
chilean
24:12
my question as a traditionalist is
24:14
he says the liturgical books promulgated by
24:16
st paul the six john paul two and
24:18
conformity the degrees about a gun to or
24:20
the unique expression of the rom night
24:24
why not
24:27
the books
24:28
that were essentially unchanged
24:31
century after century
24:33
by all
24:34
the pope's before
24:37
that it
24:38
who
24:39
why don't they get to play
24:41
this game
24:43
why is there a complete reset
24:46
the nineteen sixty nine nineteen seventy
24:50
and every pope before that in
24:52
their liturgical books are swept
24:54
away
24:57
gone
25:00
restricted
25:02
you can actually be punished in the catholic
25:04
church
25:06
by using them in observing them houses
25:08
possible
25:10
imagine going to our
25:12
eastern friends eastern catholics
25:17
and saying hey you know what we did a remix
25:22
on the divine liturgy of st john
25:24
christmas dumb you're gonna love it and
25:27
from now on you can never use that
25:29
one that you been using for
25:30
that you know two years
25:33
michael no no no no no no that's our liturgy
25:37
that yeah i know that was your
25:39
liturgy but we did a remix
25:41
on the divine liturgy and you
25:43
have to use that now that
25:45
is now because eyes the pope
25:48
and making and see a statement let
25:50
it be written so let it be done you can't
25:52
use the liturgy you've always use now
25:55
there's a new unique expression of
25:57
the eastern right churches and it's this liturgy
25:59
that i'm handing right now and if you use the old
26:01
one you're gonna get suspended and maybe to post
26:03
that i stay welcome
26:06
to my new catholic church
26:09
that's essentially that is what is happening
26:12
in the roman
26:13
there's
26:15
in the roman right
26:20
the roman rite is as old or older
26:23
in many of the eastern right
26:25
we're going to want to debate me on that
26:30
but we find
26:31
the whore
26:32
quotations
26:35
straight out of what we say in the latin mass
26:37
already and pope damages in
26:41
the late three hundred
26:43
then ambrose milan same
26:46
time period
26:47
it's there it's happening
26:49
then branch who says the non acceptance
26:52
of the liturgical reform
26:54
the also a superficial understanding
26:56
of it distracts us from the obligation
26:58
of finding responses to the questions
27:01
that i come back to repeating
27:03
how can we grow in our capacity
27:05
to live in store
27:07
and for the liturgical action
27:11
how do we continue to let ourselves be
27:13
amazed at what happens
27:15
in the celebration under our very
27:17
eyes we are in
27:19
need of a serious and dynamic
27:22
the surgical formation and quote
27:26
honestly i want to gag when i read this
27:29
and the funny thing is he says francis
27:31
as how do we continue to let ourselves
27:34
be amazed at what happens at the
27:36
celebration under our very eyes oh yeah
27:38
were amazed francis were amazed
27:40
by the balloons were amazed by the priests
27:42
is holding up a guitar and giving
27:45
everyone benediction with his guitar
27:47
were amazed by the drum set were
27:51
amazed by the eucharist ministers in
27:53
a short skirt and the high heels
27:55
i could go on and are we were
27:57
amazed by the priests doing and little boogie day
28:00
the front of a altar
28:02
were amazed when priest
28:05
change the words of sacred
28:07
scripture like instead of saying son of man
28:09
they go gender neutral and say son of human were
28:12
amazed when priests actually change
28:14
the words of the eucharist cannon
28:17
the never get punished
28:19
you feel that mass and someone finds out about
28:21
it will get called into the bishops ah but i heard about
28:23
it last night you
28:26
make up your own you kristic prayer
28:29
and remix all that kind of stuff nobody
28:31
cares
28:32
so yes francis we are
28:34
amazed at what happens in the number sort
28:38
right moving right along
28:40
we're going to paragraph forty
28:42
nine
28:45
the only be joining us we're going over the pope's
28:48
new document
28:50
he explains why he is
28:52
restricting the traditional latin mass
28:54
and promoting the know this order this
28:57
is the purpose of his document today
29:01
alright let's get started
29:04
make sure you mash their like button roy
29:07
open i noticed when you're mass that like been
29:10
works
29:11
good though
29:14
do it like it
29:16
there are forty nine as an any
29:18
art
29:19
the ours celebre on the the art
29:21
a celebration requires
29:24
different kinds of knowledge first
29:26
of all it requires an understanding of the
29:28
dynamism that unfolds through
29:30
the liturgy the action of celebration
29:33
is the place and which by means of memorial
29:35
the past mystery is made present
29:38
that to baptize to their participation
29:40
can experience within their own lives
29:43
without this understanding the celebration
29:46
easily fall into a preoccupation
29:48
with the exterior more or less refined
29:51
or into a concern
29:54
i only for rubrics more
29:56
or less
29:57
read yet there's that word read
29:59
the
30:01
so francis here is talking about
30:03
the art of celebration remember
30:07
i shall be a video with the last week
30:10
where they open up the mass in chicago
30:12
and they're playing cool and the gang
30:14
it's like sur
30:16
le braid good times
30:18
com out brown on out our of in
30:20
the lady leading the
30:22
the i guess it acquire there's really a
30:24
bad you like shake it in
30:26
a church and preserve getting
30:29
his groove on boogie action yeah
30:34
that is that the dynamism that unfolds
30:36
school liturgy that cardinal stupid
30:41
your best friend forever pope francis
30:43
is implementing in his archdiocese
30:48
and what is this dynamism
30:51
that unfolds who the liturgy
30:55
i'm is
30:57
dyno mite
31:01
the liturgy the
31:03
pre says the black and does the read
31:05
the black as the texas the prayers and
31:07
read or the rue bricks hence the know the
31:09
name rubric how we
31:11
hold his hands dirty bow
31:14
does he junior flight does he lift
31:16
up does he make the side of the cross what'd you do
31:18
it his fingers these are all the rubric
31:20
so
31:22
the way man i
31:25
don't want any jazz
31:27
hands dynamism
31:31
shake it
31:33
the lab
31:35
break i don't want any other i
31:37
am there
31:39
i mean we love your father
31:40
we support your father we pray for
31:42
you but when i come to mass i
31:45
don't wanna go to the jimmy kimmel show
31:47
and replacing the priest naina
31:49
that's not your show items on there for jesus
31:52
i want to witness the holy sacrifice if
31:54
i'm in a state of grace and i may be aggressive
31:57
fast i want to receive holy communion
32:00
hopefully worthily
32:03
the receive grace for another week
32:05
to live in this valley of tears and
32:08
to become a saint
32:09
that's what it's all about me so father
32:12
i don't want dynamism i
32:14
just want you say the black
32:16
and do the red
32:19
the holy sacrifice
32:21
it shouldn't be
32:23
somber
32:25
in there should be a concern for the
32:27
rubric
32:30
the he says if you
32:32
don't want to fall into a preoccupation with
32:34
the exterior
32:37
the weird thing is is when you have balloon masses
32:39
and clown masses and shake your you know what
32:41
masses there is a preoccupation
32:44
with the exterior
32:46
cs lewis's an angle can is not a catholic
32:50
he did as this to say about the liturgy
32:52
i'm paraphrasing he
32:54
says when says man and man woman
32:57
have properly learned how to dance dance
33:00
like the walls
33:02
i'm well practiced in
33:04
doing the walters a man and my
33:06
wife is well practice and doing the walters
33:08
the walters
33:10
when we come together
33:12
and we waltz we go forward be go backwards
33:15
we twirl we spend
33:17
we're dancing
33:18
or down here in texas doing
33:21
that texas two step
33:25
if we're to stepping spend
33:28
my wife out bring her back and catcher
33:30
with my hand i can guide her and tell
33:32
her what's going on a communicate with her and our
33:35
seats are doing a texas two step
33:38
right
33:39
we're thinking man wears taylor marshall going
33:41
right now
33:43
what is an item on know miss order on that mass
33:45
listen to it wasn't
33:48
my wife and i
33:50
are good at the texas two step
33:52
and we danced a lot together his
33:56
long as that texas two step
33:58
is happening down at our feet
34:01
the gays between my eyes
34:03
and her eyes
34:04
the smile
34:06
the response the
34:08
tenderness of my hand moving her in
34:10
certain ways all
34:13
that intimacy all that fun
34:15
all that romance happens in
34:17
texas two step or if you're from
34:19
europe in the waltz
34:23
that relationship the interior
34:26
not just the exterior the interiors express
34:28
for me to her and or to me if
34:31
you're dancing with someone
34:33
what if i'm dance who i lived in texas two step
34:36
and ah my younger broke break into that
34:38
electric slide in in know it's gonna wreck
34:40
the dance instead
34:42
of doing a texas two step i say you know what
34:46
i'm going to do the for step on the make up the forced
34:48
upon a do my own thing now
34:50
suddenly
34:51
i'm stepping on her feet she's looking
34:53
down she's frustrated she's looking
34:56
around other be like what is that person doing
34:58
they don't know how to dance
35:00
stepped on her foot again
35:04
now cs lewis he didn't say i apartheid was
35:06
me but cs lewis says
35:09
you know if long as you keep your feet
35:11
in the way that they're supposed to go
35:14
the walk
35:15
you're following the rubric
35:18
the gays
35:20
of the man in the woman the romance
35:22
and the fun
35:24
the intimacy happened on the dance
35:26
floor
35:27
you sir screwing around with the dance
35:29
or so the bands are screwing around with
35:31
the beat suddenly you're now looking
35:33
at your feet and step on each other
35:36
that's what happened to the know sordo we
35:38
all go there we all expect this is
35:40
how mass goes this is what should happen
35:43
we go from point a to b to see to
35:45
d all the way to z
35:47
right eat meat as blessing last
35:50
gospel if your traditional the
35:53
breeze comes and and he starts making up his
35:55
own staff and blessing people with his guitar
35:58
and shaken is getting his group
35:59
var en up on the altar suddenly
36:02
we're all look at her feet or i'll step on or each
36:04
other and the interior
36:07
intimacy that we are supposed to have
36:09
with jesus christ has been obliterated and
36:11
broken and as wrong
36:14
so france's is saying that the old
36:16
way is a preoccupation with the exterior
36:18
but i would argue it's the exact opposite
36:21
when you have priests clowning around
36:23
it's making everyone hyper focused
36:26
on the exterior and we're losing the interior
36:28
connection with jesus
36:32
you agree
36:34
the national like button rather
36:37
than says then it is necessary to know
36:39
how the holy spirit acts and every celebration
36:43
the art of celebrating must
36:45
be in harmony with the action of the spirit
36:48
only in this way will be free from the subject
36:51
of isms that of the fruit of individual taste
36:53
dominating
36:54
cause which is exactly the opposite
36:59
we like to stream at thirty minutes been happening
37:01
at thirty minutes but we're back the
37:04
are you back good job i'm like well
37:07
was good right
37:09
back to reading i don't know where the stream broke
37:11
ass on is gonna go
37:13
a little bit
37:15
the artist celebrating must be a harmony
37:17
with the action of the spirit only this way will be
37:19
free the subject of isms out of the fruit of individual
37:21
taste dominating that's exactly
37:23
what the opposite of what happened and the know
37:25
sort of individual taste do
37:27
take over the talks about it was you
37:29
know the invasion of cultural elements
37:32
i'll tell you what
37:35
there's all kinds of invasion not just
37:37
of cultural
37:39
elements but indigenous religion
37:41
that's brought into the nose or
37:43
it's not just in culture ration credit
37:47
sing think what islam invading
37:49
into the liturgy
37:52
then he says finally is ness or to understand
37:54
the dynamics of symbolic
37:56
language and particular nature
37:58
it's f efficacy
37:59
no idea what that sentiments
38:03
and if you're interested in symbolic language
38:06
pope francis i would highly recommend the restoration
38:09
the latin we're
38:12
now moving on to the last two paragraphs
38:14
are going to focus on parrot section fifty
38:17
four and section sixty
38:19
one you're a section
38:21
fifty four in which
38:23
he gives us a different styles
38:26
of celebrating mass at all different styles
38:29
the we go
38:30
if it is true that the artist
38:32
celebrating is required of the entire assembly
38:35
that celebrates it is like why
38:37
and that's interesting right there
38:39
not the priests who celebrates the entire
38:42
assembly is celebrate that
38:45
to get everybody up around that alter give everybody
38:47
a job
38:48
he said it is like ways it true
38:50
that ordain minister as must have a very
38:52
particular concern for
38:55
it in visiting christian communities
38:57
i've noticed that there a way of living the liturgical
38:59
celebrations conditions
39:01
for better or unfortunately for worse
39:04
right away in which their pastor presides
39:07
in the assembly we
39:09
could say that there are different models
39:12
of presiding here
39:14
is a possible list of approaches
39:17
which even though opposed to each
39:19
other a characterize away presiding that is certainly
39:21
an adequate and then here he goes i
39:23
want to say
39:25
holy father wouldn't
39:29
solve the issue entirely of the priest
39:31
turned around what
39:34
if we had it where the priests was talking to god
39:36
not to us the wasn't entertaining
39:39
us he was performing the
39:41
sacred sacrifice to god
39:43
on our behalf so we just turned him around
39:49
suddenly the community
39:51
is not conditioned his
39:53
word right away
39:55
the pasture presides an assembly
40:00
when that be a good idea
40:02
i'm gonna put that into the pope francis
40:04
suggestion by
40:06
in order to conform to pick section
40:08
fifty four here new document pope
40:10
francis are going to say that have that priests turn around
40:13
the oriental
40:15
or your the lists the
40:18
list rather
40:19
the different ways of
40:22
the art of celebration which he finds
40:24
inadequate a ready rigid
40:26
austerity where you new is gonna say that
40:28
as like number one
40:32
exasperating creativity
40:35
a spiritualized mysticism
40:38
for a practical function isn't a
40:41
rushed britain is or overemphasize
40:44
slowness
40:45
floppy carelessness or an excessive
40:47
finicky eunice
40:49
super abundant friendliness or
40:51
priestly impossibility
40:54
granted a wide range of these examples
40:56
i think that the inadequacy
40:58
of these models of presiding have a common route
41:01
the heightened personalism of the celebrating
41:03
style which at times expresses
41:06
a ploy concealed manager media
41:08
the be the center of attention i
41:10
agree amen and
41:12
amen
41:15
yes all of this is the priest
41:17
if he's a into birdies gonna be sort
41:20
of doing the priestly a possibility that extrovert
41:22
he's gonna be randomly the a jimmy kimmel
41:24
show
41:27
if he's lazy might be
41:29
do in the sloppy carelessness if
41:32
you
41:34
highly functional on the spectrum you'll be
41:36
excessive finicky nes
41:38
that's the problem francis
41:40
greece com and all different
41:42
personalities and styles
41:45
and so holy mother the church
41:47
the influence of the holy ghost third
41:50
person trinity
41:51
came up with a solution to this manifests
41:53
probably it it was called
41:56
the roman rite of the catholic church
42:00
which has been obliterated since vatican two
42:03
and on what happened in the traditional
42:06
catholic church
42:07
the roman right
42:09
is that the priest was
42:12
hit he was muted
42:15
his personality was diminished
42:18
the what the church said in or wisdom
42:20
guided by the holy ghost the church said priests
42:23
are going to wear the same clothes
42:25
like as
42:26
the collar the on when
42:29
priests go to say mass we don't want
42:31
them to were like the business
42:33
suit or a stride business sued or a
42:36
double breasted single breath know everyone's
42:39
gonna wear the same exact vestments
42:43
a priest doesn't get dumped everyone
42:45
wears the same exact set of vestments
42:48
stole jasmine right think
42:50
sir maniples
42:52
there
42:53
well what about i want to choose my own colors
42:56
nope nope no cat roman rite said we
42:58
actually have already chosen all the colors for
43:00
you in every day of the three hundred and eighty five days
43:03
we've already put a little better on your calendar
43:05
and you don't get to pick a code
43:09
well what if i
43:11
want to speak in a certain dialect
43:13
note were no out can about either were actually
43:15
rt chose everyone's gonna do latin okay
43:19
well can i make up my own prayers well
43:21
we thought of that too and we actually wrote
43:24
down every single college
43:26
every single day of the year and for all
43:28
of their future contingencies were different kinds of saints
43:31
like widows martyrs the
43:33
regions the ship's confessor
43:35
as we took care of all that
43:40
well can i kind of walk around and do
43:43
not know we actually came up with rubric
43:45
where you're supposed to stand even
43:47
at ways was a hold your hand when your post about
43:49
everything
43:51
wow so you're telling me that the roman
43:53
right up until the nineteen sixties the thought
43:55
of all of this as a way
43:58
to mute
43:59
the
43:59
live in mitigate the personalities
44:02
of priests yes and that was even why
44:04
the priest
44:05
the turned around and he's talking to god is not
44:07
talking nurse
44:09
so there's just francis is granting
44:12
a major problem in the know the sort out
44:15
failing to see that
44:18
this problem was created by the very
44:21
liturgy he's promoting if
44:23
we went back to the traditional at mass everything
44:26
he complains about this paragraph would
44:28
go away
44:31
the like that
44:35
he didn't says to cause off this paragraph
44:37
after this becomes more evident when our celebrations
44:40
are transmitted
44:41
over the air or online
44:45
something not always opportune and that needs
44:47
further reflection be sure
44:49
you understand me
44:51
these are not the most widespread behaviors
44:54
but still not infrequently assembly
44:56
suffer from does being abused
44:59
and quo i'm
45:02
excited about this because it means in
45:04
rome the
45:06
vatican they know
45:08
that we lay people are
45:11
watching these whacked out liturgies the
45:13
cool and the gang liturgy
45:15
a break
45:18
good
45:22
clown masses the balloon masses
45:27
the like have half naked men
45:30
run around to the beat of drums
45:34
every december twelve and guadalupe
45:40
and i live on a while loop
45:42
these enshrined in my living room downstairs
45:47
yes the grover t shirts i've often told the
45:49
story i'll say it again to the to the new
45:51
audience finally
45:54
the ib i was an episcopal priest i
45:57
became a catholic when i became a
45:59
catholic i knew
45:59
that masses out there but i didn't have much experience
46:02
with
46:03
there's an episcopal priest we actually had mass
46:05
with priests deacon sub deacon we
46:08
had dumb attic we had to undergo we had
46:10
ultra rails so when i became a catholic
46:12
in the nose order which was in two
46:14
thousand six i was like
46:16
man these a whim transplant she asian but
46:18
they act like protestants
46:21
the with this
46:23
so it took me about four
46:25
years
46:27
you discover the traditional landmass
46:29
and start going to the latin mass and then join a latin
46:31
mass pairs which of the fraternity of st peter for me
46:34
that was in two thousand and ten twelve years ago
46:36
for me
46:40
so i went through the journey but
46:42
one of the
46:44
trigger points
46:46
the flashpoint for me to say forget
46:48
the know this order
46:49
i'm gonna land mass
46:51
this is it i'm done
46:53
i was at the university
46:56
of dallas as reagan my phd to
46:58
count with universe
46:59
that has a church in the rounds
47:01
the not attractive but no big secret no
47:05
offense to all the alumni and
47:07
brothers and sisters from university dogs but we get
47:09
all admit can't we that the chapel
47:12
not attractive they should make that into
47:14
a play house or
47:17
music hall and build something more beautiful
47:19
my humble recommendation
47:21
anyway i was in there and over sort of
47:23
i'd walked out before because a dominican
47:26
priest was reading the gospel
47:28
once and he made the entire lesson
47:30
gender inclusive including
47:33
calling jesus as at of son of man son
47:35
of human and then incentive saying through
47:37
him with them in him in the unity the holy spirit
47:39
he said through christ with christ in christ
47:41
so everywhere there was a him in the liturgy
47:44
and by him i mean h i m or
47:46
he h e e change gender
47:48
inclusive that of the old dominican pretty dumb i
47:50
walked out of that matters the first mass i ever walked
47:53
out of this
47:55
is young taylor marshall
47:58
mail the dad probably
47:59
four five kids
48:01
that a when gray or anything
48:04
later on
48:06
maybe a year so later
48:08
i was going to mass
48:11
they had lay you critic ministers and i always
48:13
did yeah was always a the
48:15
line offer lane switcher
48:17
lanes which are
48:19
i was orleans which are go
48:22
to the priest
48:24
the only going to labor
48:27
the animal done even though
48:29
i wasn't on a mass all like i'm not going to use my hands
48:32
on an embassy amazon
48:33
welp something happened where
48:36
i couldn't get to the priest i don't know why
48:38
so i was forced instead
48:41
to be older you aggressive minister in
48:44
the chapel at university of dallas there's
48:47
a used to be
48:48
there is no religious art in there there
48:52
is there a truck they brought in
48:54
a crucifix loot the other was a small
48:56
crucifix cat what they called steamroller
48:58
crucifix it was there but otherwise
49:00
there was nothing religious in there's whitewashed
49:04
matter but once i brought my first born son their
49:06
the first time and he said dad why are we in
49:08
protestant church
49:10
from the mouths of babes anyway
49:12
i went up for communion
49:15
then the eucharist sick minister that
49:18
i got switched over to an outside
49:21
was wearing a grover teacher
49:26
grover
49:27
sesame street the
49:29
try to pull up the grover shirt people named
49:31
it can i talk about it the over
49:34
t shirt
49:37
oh here it is this is it may
49:41
love it
49:42
he was wearing this shirt
49:44
take a moment to pull under them the
49:46
video so i go for holy communion
49:48
there's there's not a statue of mary there's
49:51
no statue of st joseph st
49:53
michael anything like that i go up
49:55
and the person is wearing this grover
49:57
teacher and says the bra
49:59
the body of christ and i'm sources say
50:02
amen and receive communion
50:05
in that moment i was like this church
50:07
is completely stripped of all religious or
50:10
it doesn't even look catholic
50:12
my young son said when he was
50:14
there with with new for why when frozen church
50:17
and i'm staring into the eyes of
50:19
grover i'm
50:21
about to receive the second person to the
50:23
most holy trinity
50:29
i'm about to receive god
50:32
the holy of holies the thrice holy
50:36
the god of israel lord
50:38
saw by off
50:41
holy god for man
50:43
how did sansa with the father
50:45
and i'm staring into the eyes
50:48
of grover
50:51
the body of christ and i'm looking grover and i'm like
50:53
this is it
50:55
i'm done i'm
50:57
done
51:01
like the ridiculous nurse the
51:04
whole thing and all the years
51:06
of frustration the liturgical
51:09
abuse and even didn't even get to receive can
51:11
be appropriate but receiving communion
51:14
i'm a college student who met well maybe
51:16
they're in good faith out on
51:18
staring into the eyes of grover
51:25
in that my friends is when i
51:27
became the traditional kept
51:33
the bar saying poor elmo no one elmo
51:35
it was grover it was this exact t shirts
51:37
this t shirt is irrevocably
51:40
and indelibly branded into
51:42
my soul thank
51:47
god the catholic church has catholics
51:49
surpluses investments there's
51:51
a reason for that otherwise
51:53
we would be receiving communion looking into
51:55
the eyes of alamo and big bird
51:58
and whatever
51:59
l a c d c or whatever t shirts
52:02
somebody wants to where
52:06
so that is the story
52:09
how taylor marshall became a trap
52:13
the all because of grover
52:16
the people said and i discuss with when i hear
52:19
the as draper says
52:21
maybe grover was ordained know he wasn't
52:24
guaranteed he wasn't he was
52:26
thanks for thanks for helping this
52:29
one here joshua says
52:31
found like the simpsons episode
52:33
when lisa became a buddhist i don't know that
52:35
i watch my simpsons
52:38
yeah so everytime i see grover now
52:40
i think thank you grover you're
52:43
the reason why i'm a tried and you're
52:45
the reason why i doubt
52:48
go
52:49
the nose auto anymore
52:51
the was my grover moment it was
52:53
my grover moment
52:55
the like a story hit the like been
52:58
okay so we're back in the
53:00
pope francis yeah i wasn't planning on telling
53:02
my grover moment but
53:05
i'm glad that i did i feel better
53:07
now that i got it off my chest
53:09
and now he those are that are new and audience
53:12
you now know my back story you
53:15
know if they ever made a prequel to my
53:17
life or a backstory that would definitely
53:19
have to be
53:20
in the in the movie
53:22
the grover seen
53:23
the powerful
53:25
very power
53:26
but other thing here
53:28
francis is aware that people
53:31
like myself and others are
53:34
critical of celebrations being
53:36
transmitted over the air or online
53:41
people say oh we don't have com as as more that was back
53:43
in the eighties we have way my we were stuff right
53:45
now twenty twenty two coven started
53:47
streaming masses the
53:49
whole world found out how totally whacked
53:54
the diocesan
53:56
liturgies look
53:58
like use i pulled him up
54:01
you know they got i phones they got their elbows
54:03
on the altar and they got the i phone out
54:05
there reading the story that the
54:08
deacon emailed arm and all this kind of stuff
54:10
a we we need
54:13
we need help in the chat we got nasty people
54:15
on a chat on them tried to quit bandra quick
54:18
yes ban is nasty people
54:22
the i recognize a faithful
54:25
regular viewer here i will quickly
54:28
make you a moderator so you can clean up these nasty
54:30
bots that com in your chats
54:34
okay let's go to the last section
54:37
then i want to focus on today and as section
54:39
sixty one
54:41
the to me is the most interesting i
54:44
was able to riff on some the other ones but this one
54:46
right here i think if you could only if someone
54:48
said to me taylor i i just want to read one
54:50
part of the pope's new document on liturgy
54:52
what should i do ya bigger section six
54:54
you want to read that you get the hoping
54:58
the army to read it here
55:00
we go
55:02
team eggs grover at that we are
55:05
the team x grover that
55:08
and sixty one in this letter i wanted
55:11
simply to share some reflections which
55:13
most certainly do not exhaust the
55:15
a man's treasure of the celebration of
55:17
the holy mysteries i ask all bishops
55:19
priests and deacons the four majors and seminaries
55:22
the instructors and theological faculties
55:24
and school of theology and all catechism
55:26
to help the holy people of gotta draw from
55:29
what is the first wellspring of christians christian
55:31
spirituality
55:33
we are called continually to rediscover
55:35
the richness
55:36
the general principles exposed
55:38
in the first
55:39
the numbers of sacrosanct conceal him
55:42
grasping the intimate bond between this
55:45
first of the council's constitution and
55:47
all the others not this
55:50
is wanda things as as as
55:52
catholic
55:54
i'm not a cradle catholic i'm a convert
55:57
the protestant out a browser minister
55:59
this
55:59
the kind of thing that i don't get
56:02
because when i signed up to be a catholic i wanted
56:05
all twenty centuries
56:07
i was fighting i was signing under
56:09
every single century all the ecumenical
56:11
councils all the anathema us
56:14
right
56:15
the church fathers everything that's
56:17
what i came in and then once i was a catholic
56:20
for a few years
56:21
in waded into the pool of nova sorta
56:25
there's is emphasis of
56:28
that it can to only isn't
56:30
like everything before is no and
56:32
void because vatican two
56:37
father was sort of attorney of st peter used
56:39
to say the
56:42
difference between a modernist
56:44
in a traditionalist is this a
56:47
modernist
56:48
views everything and church
56:51
history all doctor and all morality
56:53
through the lens of today
56:56
and are enlightenment in our time
56:58
right now
57:00
the traditionalist
57:02
interprets today
57:04
the event today
57:06
in light of all
57:09
the tradition the doctrine
57:11
that came before
57:14
john is damn follow or said the
57:16
modernist interpret all of history
57:18
and tradition in terms of today
57:21
the modern moment the traditional
57:23
is interpreting did they now
57:26
in light of everything that came before
57:29
who different set of goggles
57:32
looking at reality
57:36
in the vatican two only people
57:38
are the modernists
57:40
they interpret everything the vatican two though
57:44
like if you watch bishop baron
57:47
he'll say yeah but vatican two
57:50
yeah but vatican two yabba vatican two
57:52
you put something in the history the church
57:55
something that
57:56
dogmatic dot final moral
57:59
or out of line
57:59
what the modern church yeah but vatican
58:02
two the
58:04
traditions are saying hey we signed
58:06
on for everything from the old
58:08
testament to the new testament to the
58:10
church fathers of the pope's all the major magisterium
58:13
and an hour into the nineteen hundreds into
58:15
the two thousand and this and stuff going
58:18
on it's not really fitting with the old stuff and we
58:20
want have a conversation about that we
58:23
want to stick with our default position of
58:25
all the old stuff traditional liturgy
58:27
traditional more morality traditional doctrine
58:29
until we get all this new stuff figured
58:32
out and clarify that's
58:34
really what archbishop of of was
58:36
the people
58:37
i see this again hear you
58:40
think we are continually called
58:43
we are called continually to rediscover the richest
58:45
richness of attic and do that
58:47
doesn't consume why
58:49
are we call to constantly
58:53
rediscover and i see a
58:55
one and
58:57
content know but one and
58:59
the council emphasis in the council coulson
59:02
on the council contents apple two and content
59:04
or three and the council of my see a to
59:08
cardinal before yeah
59:10
would rent why
59:13
does this one
59:16
have special powers
59:21
practices for this reason we cannot
59:23
go back to that ritual
59:25
form which the father's cool petro
59:28
it sub petro
59:29
felt the need to reform
59:32
this is the authoritative statement
59:35
he er en france
59:37
for this reason because we're always going
59:39
back to vatican two weaken not
59:41
go back
59:43
to the ritual
59:46
for vatican two
59:47
that's the definitive decision
59:50
i liked objects
59:54
you get it
59:56
this is why i think section sixty
59:58
one
59:59
this really francis lane at all out
1:00:02
force
1:00:03
because our spirituality
1:00:05
has to constantly rediscover vatican two
1:00:09
therefore he says quote
1:00:11
we cannot go back to that ritual
1:00:15
the old ritual
1:00:17
the latin mass
1:00:19
the all sacramento rituals
1:00:21
the all bravery for him it's obliterated
1:00:24
vatican two obliterated the
1:00:26
old ritual
1:00:27
there is no return to it's garners
1:00:31
this is the pope francis
1:00:33
you know
1:00:37
he says
1:00:39
that the church fathers felt the need
1:00:41
to reform approving under the guidance
1:00:43
of the holy spirit and falling their consciences
1:00:45
pastors the principles from
1:00:47
which were born the reform and here's what
1:00:49
really bothers me about that
1:00:51
why does the liturgy
1:00:53
reformed according to the conscience of pastors
1:00:56
and not according to tradition
1:00:59
not according to
1:01:01
what has been received
1:01:03
the church
1:01:04
suddenly the conscience of passers
1:01:06
in the twentieth century gets to veto
1:01:11
the organic development of nineteen
1:01:13
hundred plus years
1:01:15
how does that make sense the
1:01:18
conscience of pastors
1:01:22
those are the it has the principles from which
1:01:25
was born the reform
1:01:26
the conscience
1:01:28
not scripture not tradition
1:01:30
not magisterium not previous
1:01:32
popes but the conscience because
1:01:35
the vatican two religion is salvation
1:01:37
by conscience
1:01:40
you just follow your caught it well i wanna
1:01:43
bore babies and be on the pill my whole
1:01:45
life your
1:01:47
vatican two jesuit says what that's your conscience
1:01:49
that's how you get to have
1:01:52
if you say
1:01:54
i want to get divorced and remarried five times
1:01:57
is like war you okay in your conscience with that yes
1:01:59
going to heaven
1:02:02
the vatican two religion is salvation
1:02:04
by your conscience and there's no talk
1:02:07
of forming conscience look what happened
1:02:09
yesterday nancy pelosi
1:02:12
for the overturn roe v wade got
1:02:14
up on tv and talked about how wicked evil
1:02:16
the whole thing was we gotta go back to a boarding
1:02:18
babies and giving people the right to have more babies
1:02:21
and as you jet sets over the vatican meet
1:02:23
of pope francis take photos goes
1:02:25
to mass receive communion makes a public
1:02:27
statement about
1:02:34
in francis has the gall to issue an issue
1:02:36
this to us that anyone correct
1:02:38
or conscience the was a here you know
1:02:40
killing babies not cool catholics don't do
1:02:42
it
1:02:44
no
1:02:44
smile me took the photos
1:02:47
so if pope read his okay with
1:02:49
leaving those consciences unchecked why
1:02:51
should we care about the content is of passers
1:02:53
you want to change
1:02:55
abuse
1:02:57
the permit and and mutate
1:03:01
the roman liturgy forget that
1:03:05
what if someone says well my conscience i'm going to where the
1:03:08
grover sure when i was when i give communion
1:03:12
current pope francis they have that
1:03:15
right they should be doing that i
1:03:18
say
1:03:19
not to the na na
1:03:22
i'm gone back to grower i burn
1:03:24
the ships never
1:03:26
gone back to grover sober and
1:03:29
then our last day when they're going to go today
1:03:31
the holy potter's st paul the
1:03:34
six and st john paul two
1:03:36
approving the reform would turn to the books in
1:03:39
actor credo soccer sunday ecu manage
1:03:41
he conceded he by the
1:03:43
connie to have
1:03:46
guaranteed the fidelity
1:03:48
other reform of the council so here this is
1:03:50
why canonized paul the sex and john
1:03:52
paul two nothing
1:03:55
to do with poland communism a night dad
1:03:57
had to do he needs to canonize
1:03:59
or of letters
1:03:59
the books
1:04:01
how do you can either liturgical books you say well
1:04:04
the two pope's who approved i'm they're
1:04:07
both sides air go
1:04:10
we can't get rid of these books
1:04:14
and i say
1:04:17
let's look at on the merits of truth i
1:04:19
don't care
1:04:21
who promulgated the books
1:04:24
john paul two kids the book called the
1:04:26
koran i don't want the koran read
1:04:28
in my mass
1:04:31
people make mistakes if
1:04:34
you can make a mistake and kiss the quran you can make
1:04:36
a mistake on the liturgy that
1:04:38
is that for
1:04:41
this reason francis says i wrote traditional
1:04:43
owners custodian that the church
1:04:45
may lift up
1:04:47
in a variety of so many languages
1:04:50
one and the same prayer capable
1:04:52
of expressing her unity
1:04:54
and
1:04:55
so there's the endorsement of vernacular
1:04:57
to the detriment
1:04:59
have night
1:05:01
and under stop there you can read the whole thing
1:05:04
at vatican dot v a
1:05:06
the under francesco
1:05:08
and there is the german
1:05:10
the english the spanish the french and the italian
1:05:13
translation you can read the whole thing those
1:05:15
were my
1:05:16
hop five sections
1:05:19
the in the document disa darrow
1:05:22
the and knock yourself out if
1:05:24
you wanna
1:05:25
read more for or yeah here's a picture of
1:05:28
nancy pelosi
1:05:30
kill it
1:05:32
francis near here the mass
1:05:38
they got those photos
1:05:40
this way
1:05:41
when people say aren't you catholic how are
1:05:43
you supporting ah a return
1:05:45
to roby wait i thought you were catholic about
1:05:47
you are gathered on the couch your cc allows just
1:05:49
chilling with the pub with this picture being an hour i
1:05:52
would demand for the pope
1:05:55
the got my back
1:05:57
i can kill babies have tax
1:05:59
money your babies and i could still can hang with the
1:06:01
pope
1:06:02
kick it
1:06:04
that's the plan the publicity stunt right
1:06:08
on a sign off here before i do on going
1:06:10
to urge you and beg you to pray the rosary
1:06:13
every day and the put our lady over our our
1:06:15
of rover
1:06:16
pray the rosary everyday if you don't pray the rosary
1:06:19
you're not on the team
1:06:22
the rosary every single
1:06:24
day
1:06:27
you'll be blessed
1:06:28
the rosary at bible on beads
1:06:30
you need it your
1:06:32
spouse needs that your kids need regular
1:06:36
everyday read the bible every day be
1:06:38
a saint be kind find
1:06:40
it her slot mass if erasures like mass
1:06:42
this week hatched five
1:06:45
people invite them to come to your tercel
1:06:47
that mass was grow it introduce
1:06:50
people it's all about introducing
1:06:53
people jesus it's all about learning
1:06:55
to dance weather's the waltzer the to step
1:06:57
we get our feet right then
1:06:59
we can gaze into the eyes of jesus christ
1:07:01
the bridegroom of the church and become
1:07:03
sex and be saved and go to heaven
1:07:06
that the go
1:07:08
thanks for watching mash the
1:07:10
like but noted great today on those like this
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are you going to pray they'll marry now ave maria
1:07:51
nominee potteries of beauty it's better to sunday amen
1:07:53
of maria grazia planet dominance taken
1:07:56
benedicta to money at ibu said benedictus
1:07:58
fruit to spend she's two years santa
1:08:01
maria mater dei he or perino
1:08:03
be stuck a tory booze no get a dorm
1:08:05
ortiz nostrils
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amen
1:08:08
nobody parties it v spirit is sunday
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amen
1:08:13
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