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the parole of Los Angeles's

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Charla Princesses. It's the season.

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Fifteen Stunner Selena. Has

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dated. A. Girl

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more be a good morning.

1:00

I didn't know this was happening today.

1:02

Selena. Yeah. I voted

1:04

by their. The Air. You're finally

1:06

here! I mean, I am I. Oh man. I'm.

1:09

Dying to have. We been dying to chat more

1:11

Because we were, we were at messaging a little

1:13

bit over the course of season. Fifteen. A.

1:16

Little Bear Bear Little strict with

1:18

like media outlets and podcast while

1:20

we're season is airing of our

1:22

hormones Civil War thought now know

1:24

the whole year a raise Yeah

1:27

rearrange. But. We've been praising you on

1:29

here for a whole damn year. Ah,

1:31

I would hear that lot of times

1:33

and I was so great Will give

1:35

ya hundreds thereby are you don't I

1:37

read I really felt nice to hear

1:39

about your got when I was pretty

1:41

down not deployed at any other podcast

1:43

because they're not known other exist but

1:45

have you know I think we just

1:47

have we know where have they have

1:49

a P O sea perspective here? So

1:51

like a lot of times it was

1:53

very frustrating to watch you get dogged

1:55

for doing great. And then and

1:58

then trying to understand why you're. In

2:00

dogged. Who. Ain't

2:02

you? Ain't. Really

2:05

good for interesting when you gonna drag races

2:07

or he realizes that like it's a chess

2:10

game that and you're not playing the game

2:12

near one hundred pieces on the board. So

2:14

the whole point is that figure out or

2:16

you upon are you the queen I use

2:18

the bishop like a feel like best very

2:20

much alive and I went and again I

2:22

was gonna be like a very like key

2:24

player and then you realize you're not the

2:26

have to figure out how am I going

2:28

to survive on this escort as long as

2:31

I. Can you know that guy? That's

2:33

exactly what happened and I'll think they

2:35

expected me to bring anything. Of.

2:37

My you know when I brought either

2:39

too so it's like of interesting game

2:41

to play. I do think you are

2:43

one of the amazing I mean to

2:46

your credit you're one of those amazing

2:48

cleans that changes your own narrative and

2:50

ah while the season is happening Yes

2:52

oh very good idea Know I'm from

2:54

away like I'm hollywood girl I I've

2:56

been in the industry for a minute

2:58

both very much our oh okay okay

3:00

you go with the flow and the

3:02

boot make it work in oh yeah

3:05

you're you're a professional that way you're

3:07

like okay. I and I and I

3:09

accept the things that are out of

3:11

my control like year and a me

3:13

as opposed to use yeah no that's

3:15

our that see on on a whole

3:18

time during the have been had if

3:20

we we got somewhere new i think

3:22

you fucking slade at i would like

3:24

to see new gone further but you

3:26

went very far I mean I always

3:29

have to think about back to when

3:31

my mind the feel so torturers and

3:33

devastated by i'm like the it's not

3:35

the best you that that's your. Lot.

3:37

I mean I love your lox.

3:39

I even the controversial ones I

3:41

love like the metallic a lot

3:44

or the big gloves boots. I

3:46

see the big was behind you

3:48

and I'm living there right there.

3:50

Baby. traveling the world is with

3:52

in australia the uk all across

3:54

taxpayer at the can we talk

3:56

about the cliff of bob the

3:58

drag queen doing doing

4:01

your iconic lip

4:03

syncing that iconic moment that

4:06

became a moment and you

4:09

laughing your ass off I

4:11

loved it because Bob took like the heat

4:14

off of it and it made it like

4:16

exciting and funny to yeah you know what

4:18

I mean where before was for me personally

4:20

it's also dire and like I'm sorry I'm

4:23

sorry I'm sorry like I didn't mean it

4:25

yeah I'm like oh all of a sudden

4:27

they hate me because of it but yeah

4:29

Bob I think Bob really helped turn the

4:32

tables with that one for me so it was

4:34

really really sickening it's really cute like

4:36

it was really cute to watch and

4:39

it made me love you even more just

4:42

to watch you like when you're laughing so

4:44

hard at something you can't

4:46

even look. I didn't know if she was gonna

4:48

do that in the mix she was like she

4:50

called me and was like you want to go

4:52

viral tonight I'm performing a showgirl tonight where your

4:54

glove look and do a run up the hill

4:56

like yeah why not and then she added in

4:58

everything else and I had no idea and

5:01

then Bob like laughing at her own

5:04

thing while you're laughing is just a

5:06

pure joy no it was

5:08

a beautiful moment speaking of

5:10

Bob let's talk really quickly about the

5:12

Bob the Matty Morphesis drama that's happening

5:15

online I'm living for both sides this

5:17

is a war what I want both

5:19

sides to win no

5:21

literally and I think Matty stepped up to

5:24

the plate you know because Bob went against

5:27

Mistress and Mistress felt horribly

5:29

at that little person so

5:33

you feel Mistress did not eat her

5:35

up the way Matty ate her up oh

5:38

not at all damn

5:40

Matty gave, Matty gave

5:42

bars I agree those were

5:45

bars I was I was shocked I was like when

5:47

it started I was like here we go and

5:49

then I was like that's some these

5:51

are some clever with the we are

5:53

here joke I was like this is

5:55

a really clever ass read And

5:58

out the gate too, So it was perfect. I

6:00

live in. It happened over the course of

6:02

like twelve hours. Like, how did this happen

6:05

so quickly? While there you

6:07

go there's Bob and Bobs really good jumping

6:09

on a moment but like seat of his

6:11

aspirin or solve the girls them in her

6:13

and see their to respond not I mean

6:16

sir yes sir Bob says up to the

6:18

played every time I love I do love

6:20

that I am a bot stand for ever.

6:23

Even when she's wrong. Even

6:27

when I this is wrong, I might be

6:29

more beds a lot of times this year.

6:33

As a citizen so charismatic.

6:35

Lee Bailey's as. The to be. Okay

6:38

we our talk more about your Ryan on

6:40

Jag race because I just fucking loved you

6:42

are on see as have seen which was

6:44

nice and to say an overly. Stuffed.

6:48

Cast a cast with too much

6:50

talent, a task like with where

6:53

you are just constantly signing a

6:55

amongst. All. Stars like

6:57

it felt like an all star season. Is

7:00

there anything you look back on

7:02

the and you think damn damn

7:04

I wish I could have done

7:06

acts differently. I. Was i

7:08

started out wanting to play the game

7:10

really hard right like guy or read

7:12

my my entrance when i really can

7:15

be for cigarettes by is like i

7:17

was there to live in know how

7:19

make some spicy t but then i

7:21

realized like oh you know like i

7:23

said earlier discovering what women roy your

7:25

plane when i realized my roy really

7:27

sick mean saw was like i wish

7:29

I would have just had more fun

7:31

being there I did have been and

7:34

like every day with such a beautiful

7:36

like attempt believe is happening. But

7:38

i'm be emotional aspect of it all really took

7:40

a toll on me so I think that was

7:42

really I was sort of my to send more

7:44

fun. Will you know who go back when they

7:47

ask you to come back. Yeah.

7:49

i would love that i actually

7:51

i just you know i feel

7:53

like ruined michelle feel consort away

7:55

about me for the last map

7:57

is big but i wasn't physically

7:59

i feel i must maybe like

8:01

I think okay, I don't know

8:03

we were at the Emmy's and I just felt like She

8:06

ignored me the whole time and I was scared to talk

8:08

to her. So I was like, I'm sorry and called your

8:10

friends a slur But

8:13

like me and Ross are cool. Like we

8:15

hug every time we see each other like

8:18

I apologize to him right away So like,

8:20

you know, I just get a little nervous

8:22

that maybe like they're holding a grudge But

8:24

I know RuPaul doesn't even remember you're allowed

8:26

to pop off. I really do feel like

8:28

it all happened so quickly It all felt

8:30

immediately comedic. It all felt like girl. I

8:32

have feelings. I have feelings It's

8:35

not my proudest moment, but we move on

8:38

iconic Yeah,

8:40

I think it's in the fandom

8:42

sir, but like career-wise yeah, you

8:44

know when you're When

8:47

let me tell you here's my question

8:49

for you during the hookup. Do you ever say

8:51

eat my ass back yet? Oh

8:53

my god. No, but I feel like sometimes guys

8:56

want me to say it like Guys

8:59

start eating me out and I feel like they're looking up at

9:01

me so I can say it and I'm like girl I'm

9:03

not gonna say it get to work Someone's

9:07

eating you out and they're like line line

9:09

literally Guys

9:13

like space stupid shit so like

9:15

I don't know if

9:17

it's that kind of podcast. Yes. Yes. It

9:19

is. Give me your filth right now What

9:21

time did boy came over and as he

9:24

was leaving said thanks for the s kitties

9:27

No, I was like,

9:29

here's the door another time This

9:31

guy thought that I he thought that

9:34

I like I painted him.

9:36

So he was like, oh Selena SVCs

9:38

and I was like, no No

9:44

Ma'am I Hate that.

9:46

I can't believe queer people and men don't

9:49

know that you don't want to talk about

9:51

drag race when you're in the steam room

9:53

Girl, oh my god. No, it's

9:55

bold. I applaud the boldness of it all

9:58

Yes. God definitely been

10:01

there. had to have fun experiences.

10:03

I love it Selena Can we

10:05

talk about? I need to And

10:08

also talk about your backpack? The.

10:10

Complete when you did the Drag race

10:12

Fashion Week look the backpack saying. He.

10:16

Was so that your photo movie on

10:18

herbs. Yes. And then it was again

10:20

one of those iconic moments where I

10:22

think the fans came to your defense

10:24

length. Yeah, this is awesome. What are

10:26

you talking about New? Yeah, that's a

10:28

really nice you could play again. I

10:30

knew in my mind that it was

10:32

not the words work of the night

10:35

so I I know why with the

10:37

bottom works by be My Life to

10:39

be here. The fandom rally against it

10:41

was like oh good. I'm not delusional

10:43

and I'm not like you know the

10:45

crazies ssssss. Never really nice and there's not

10:47

that is Dave. I'm on my Don design

10:50

with from the first as Onset designs. how

10:52

is my second up with a rubber? Third

10:54

episode there like old it looked like Salinas

10:56

big into the sea. women are bottom so

10:58

again Mcaleese purposes I loved it. I love

11:01

the I also want to say you're a

11:03

union and finale looked your finale the case.

11:05

The. K. I think

11:07

you one the finale for me. I said it

11:09

on the podcast. I'll say it again. Ever looked

11:11

great but I felt like you really did something

11:13

that's never been done before but that with that

11:15

to take vice. Based. Bad so

11:18

that might entered work in the cake drive the

11:20

computer just were always to think they know the

11:22

always been a Dubai or gonna regret that goes

11:24

with a number. I was my and will be

11:26

zola with the plot and I always knew my

11:28

for now is going to be the gives me

11:30

an address of the cage like about always been

11:33

my mind for years years easier by now have

11:35

we got to make it happen. I. Love

11:37

I live so before we start I

11:39

was sixteen. I always like to ask

11:41

a girl this what advice will you

11:43

would you give to the season seventeen

11:45

girls the girls that are other gonna

11:48

film this summer. What advice do you

11:50

give to them. My advice is

11:52

and was I was the motive for me

11:54

I you know as money for advice before

11:56

I left them Also said with causes be

11:58

yourself to pierce the have. I'm like,

12:00

okay, and myself was crying and this is

12:02

not it. I'm fucking going through it. But

12:06

I wish someone would have told me, when

12:08

you discover what chess piece

12:10

you are, lean into it and own

12:13

it. Don't go against it. The more

12:15

you rock against the edit

12:17

or whatever your role is on the show,

12:20

it's not good for you. So just lean into

12:23

whatever it is. And Derek Barrie actually gave me

12:25

that advice. I was at a show with Derek

12:27

and it's just like, they wanted

12:29

me to be the dumblond. So I just leaned

12:31

into it. And then the Stonewall line, you know

12:33

what I mean? Like that's how these little iconic

12:35

moments, because I just leaned into the character they

12:37

chose for me in a way. And I was

12:40

like, oh, that's interesting to think about. How do

12:42

I just leaned into being in the bottom and

12:44

like, oh, I can't sew, huh? You know, like,

12:46

even though it's not true. I mean, Derek

12:48

Barrie has two husbands, so she's always leaning

12:50

into being the bottom. You know what I'm

12:52

saying? Oh, very that,

12:54

I live. No, but I'm with

12:56

you. It is good advice for

12:59

life and bottoming. If you lean

13:01

in, eventually it will feel lovely.

13:05

It will feel so good. And I mean, I

13:07

think it's just about not going against, you know,

13:09

what they're trying to create. Cause they've been doing

13:11

this for a long time. So just lean in

13:13

and trust the process. And no matter how ugly

13:16

it may feel, just for the 17 girls,

13:18

lean into it, bitch. Lean in. I

13:20

think that's really good advice. They're

13:23

making, yeah, they're making a TV show. You're

13:26

going to have a platform afterwards, and

13:28

then you can do whatever the hell you want to

13:30

with that platform. But there's only so much you can

13:33

do to, while you're

13:35

on the show, there's only so much you

13:37

can do. You can do your damnedest, but

13:39

you can't be shocked when things don't

13:41

go how you planned. Yeah,

13:44

cause it's not your game, it's their

13:46

game. So period, you're invited to their

13:48

game and that is up to the

13:50

win and the honor. So yeah, it's

13:52

gonna be cool. Cause

13:54

like right now is very much, they

13:57

always say like the race begins after the show.

13:59

I really feel that like I truly feel

14:02

like, oh, it's a race to

14:04

stay relevant to being in the game. So

14:06

like be both. It's not, it's not, you

14:08

can't, it's not like before, you know, it's

14:10

not like a local girl. I know. Tell

14:12

me about boots. Did, did boots drop yet? No. So

14:16

when does this come out? Monday.

14:18

So really soon. Okay. So

14:21

this Friday, the 16th, my new single

14:23

boots comes out and then I released

14:25

the high announce that I have an

14:27

EP coming out in March. So hell

14:29

yeah. I've been working on some music.

14:31

It's called my EP called homegirl. It's

14:34

four tracks and boots is the

14:36

first single and I'm very excited.

14:38

I took a very iconic Latina

14:40

figure in history and that's the

14:42

whole, that's,

14:45

I did a little twist on it in my video. And that's

14:47

the whole, I'm very excited for people to see it. I'm

14:50

so pumped. I mean, we're people

14:52

in the Latinx and Latino

14:55

community, I feel like are deeply,

14:58

deeply thankful for the way you've like

15:01

elevated, you know, depictions and portrayals

15:03

and even like taken stereotypes and

15:05

then flip them on their head.

15:07

I feel like you have such

15:09

a strong brand. Oh,

15:12

thank you. You know, it's weird because

15:14

I got a lot of hate from a lot of

15:16

Latinos too. I mean, I always look at both sides.

15:18

I'm a Libra, so I have to like balance the

15:20

scale. Sure. Like I always hear

15:22

this and like, especially at precincts or downtown LA, like there's

15:24

so many people who come out and they're like, thank you

15:26

for the representation. On the

15:28

flip side, there's a lot of people who are like, she doesn't represent

15:31

us. She's XYZ, and I was like,

15:33

oh my God. But I think the beautiful

15:35

thing about Latinx people is that we are

15:37

such a diverse melting pot

15:39

of experiences. Like not one person has

15:41

the same experience, you know, whether you're

15:44

first generation, second generation, you moved here

15:46

when you were little, like everyone has

15:48

their own experience as a Latino. Yeah,

15:50

you can hate me. My experience is

15:52

my experience. So maybe it's not authentic

15:54

to your experience, but whatever I showed

15:57

on the show is exactly how I've

15:59

experienced it. I've experienced Latino-ness within my life,

16:01

and there's nothing to be ashamed about that, where

16:03

there's people who try to make me feel inauthentic,

16:06

or like, you know what I mean, XYZ.

16:08

So that was really hard to step

16:11

into when I started, you know, when the Meet

16:13

the Queens came out and stuff. But

16:16

I guess it's just part of being in

16:18

the limelight, and it's something that I had

16:20

to learn how to navigate, but I was

16:22

very proud of what I represented. You say

16:24

it perfectly. Look, you don't have to like

16:26

it. Not everyone's gonna like it. That's okay,

16:28

that's cute. And that's just

16:30

entertainment, period. You're being your

16:32

best to be authentically you, and some people aren't

16:34

gonna like it. That's okay, that's

16:36

okay. Yeah. That

16:39

same shit, yeah, go, go, go.

16:42

I did a tour with just Kahlil

16:44

in Australia, like, two weeks ago, and

16:47

I love her so much. She just saw it so much.

16:49

She loved her deeply. She was so humble. And

16:51

I was talking to her, because I was like, you know, what

16:53

advice do you have for all stars? And she's like, well, you

16:55

know, what I did was, she'd be

16:58

like, I just went, and I was just, I just

17:00

had fun. I didn't care about, you know, I

17:03

didn't put the weight of representing Puerto Rico

17:05

on my shoulders. And I think that's kind

17:07

of something I would change for all stars,

17:09

is I wouldn't put the weight of like

17:11

trying to represent my Latinx experience on Drag

17:13

Race. Because obviously, like, you know, in a

17:15

way, it didn't really help me on the

17:17

show. It helped me in life. And like,

17:19

I got to really have that representation. But

17:21

as far as like, you know, it

17:23

kind of, not that it, I don't want

17:26

to say it hindered me, but like, it's not what

17:28

the judges are looking for. You know what I mean?

17:30

You make an interesting point that

17:32

queens of color, we'd like, there's

17:35

an interesting, There's like a

17:37

balance. It's like, There's a

17:39

nice balance. Yeah, it's a double edged

17:41

sword, as they say. It's like, you

17:43

want to see your culture, but then

17:45

they want to see you be more

17:47

than that. And then, but then they

17:49

also are mad when you don't represent

17:51

your culture. Then, and that,

17:53

yeah, it's frustrating because, you know, white

17:55

sis, you know, cis queens, like, they

17:57

don't have to do that. culture

18:00

to represent so they can just be

18:02

right and people live for it. Right.

18:05

Because white white head,

18:07

you know, I'm sorry, white cis

18:09

queens remind us of models, because

18:11

models is modeling is based on

18:13

European beauty standards. And our entire

18:15

culture is brainwashed by that. So

18:18

it's like, yeah, which is very

18:20

true. Very plain. It's a very

18:22

deep, deep, deep situation that sometimes

18:24

too much to dive into. So

18:26

we just expect it's what it

18:28

is. It's happening on this

18:30

season because they're losing their mind

18:32

over plain Jane. And we'll talk about

18:34

it. Mind you, there's like 1700 Latinos

18:38

on this season too. You know what I

18:40

mean? And they're all they're also different, which

18:42

I also love to point out like, yeah,

18:44

like again, not not one Latinos experience is

18:46

the same. All these girls are have so

18:48

many different styles of drag, different point of

18:50

views and they're all Latino. So it's like,

18:52

very cool to see the presentation

18:55

in that way as well. How

18:57

is it watching this season after

18:59

you did the show weird, fun

19:01

other? I think it

19:03

made me like drag race again, because I'm

19:06

not the point of view or I'm not

19:08

the like subject, you know, so it's I'm

19:10

like, Oh, I get to have fun. But

19:12

also on the other hand, feel for the

19:14

girls because I understand every emotion is going

19:16

on. I get how the fans are reacting

19:18

to each individual queen. Like I see the

19:21

parallels and similarities and the way that they

19:23

hate on one girl or don't give any

19:25

girl their flowers. Like I

19:27

feel for the girls in that way. But it's

19:29

just part it's just part of the game that like you

19:31

don't understand unless you've been there. T.

19:34

T. It's just it's just the

19:36

machine itself. So we just said

19:38

bye to a mandatory meeting. Sad,

19:40

frustrating. Bye. Yeah,

19:43

I feel like I really enjoyed it.

19:45

Amanda won that low sink. She

19:48

did, didn't she? Yeah,

19:50

I feel like they knew it was going to

19:52

be a design challenge next. So they would

19:54

rather keep Q to really slay the challenge, the

19:56

next challenge than to keep Amanda. It was giving

19:58

very of that. They were. they

20:01

were excited about the queue of it

20:03

all and queue had very exciting runways,

20:05

more traditionally exciting runways.

20:08

But I just, I'll

20:11

just stand by and say that the

20:13

nest egg thing was a fun idea.

20:15

And can't drag be fun and weird

20:17

sometimes? It can but

20:19

not for drag race. I feel

20:21

unless you're I don't know, because

20:24

men is white and skinny. So

20:26

they're my point. But you know,

20:28

I have a YouTube series that

20:31

I started called Titter Quit. And

20:33

I love that. It's called Titter Quit

20:35

the Roast of the Golden Boot. Since I won the

20:37

Golden Boot my season for the street lamp look I

20:40

am giving I'm on a search and a hunt

20:42

to see who's gonna get the Golden Boot for

20:44

the season. It's a contender. Every

20:47

week I do a little poll on my

20:49

Instagram and make a little YouTube video and

20:51

Amanda's nest look is probably going to win

20:53

the Golden Boot so far from any of

20:55

the looks to see this. So

20:57

exciting. And that's what I love about it.

21:00

I will remember it. I will forget a

21:02

lot of these looks. But I will remember

21:04

that 1000% is so exciting.

21:06

It's just wild. It's

21:11

just wild because some of the girls they

21:13

just it's just you know, you know how it is. Sometimes

21:16

one one look gets a pass and other

21:18

looks don't. And I'm like, yeah, try something

21:20

exciting. Some of the looks were so like

21:22

middle of the road and they got a

21:25

pass which I'm like, but shouldn't you reward

21:27

like a big weird risk? I don't know.

21:29

Yeah, it's just that's drag, you know,

21:31

so whatever it is what it is.

21:34

It is. Okay, we're gonna talk about

21:36

the rest of this episode. But first,

21:39

silence Selena. I feel

21:42

like taking a break. Oh.

21:53

Bring back my break. We're

21:55

back. We're talking about this episode.

21:58

We've got some some in

22:00

fighting happening from the past episode, what

22:03

do you think of the plain Jane of it

22:05

all, right? Plain Jane trying to turn over a

22:07

new leaf, flash plain Jane will never turn over

22:09

a new leaf. I

22:12

live. It's like, I know

22:14

a lot of the fans hate her,

22:16

but she's doing what you

22:18

need to do to stay in the game.

22:21

If that's one thing I learned on my

22:23

season was watching how Lux and Mistress moved

22:25

on the show, plain Jane

22:28

is doing the same exact thing. I

22:30

don't know if you remember, but Lux and Mistress

22:32

got to the final four. They got

22:35

special. You know what I mean? So

22:37

I wouldn't be surprised if plain Jane gets really far

22:39

because she's the reason why there's

22:42

storylines happening. You know what I mean? It's very,

22:44

that's what I'm saying again. It's like you come

22:47

in and figure out your chest piece and

22:49

she's playing the role of the knight and

22:52

she's going left and right and making

22:55

all these little digs and it's gonna help her

22:57

at the end. So it's more than just drag.

22:59

It's more than talent. It's more than drag.

23:02

She's giving us good TV. Yeah,

23:04

absolutely. She is. I

23:06

mean, I have complicated feelings. I like that she's

23:09

on the season because there is a lot of

23:11

peace on the season. My tough,

23:13

my salty advice is, I think

23:16

she's doing the right thing. I

23:18

wish some of her reads were

23:20

funnier, but

23:22

because sometimes it could be, a funny read

23:24

can really change the color of it or

23:27

it's just like, if it's just a little

23:29

funny or a little something, it

23:31

makes it feel a little bit more lively,

23:33

I guess, as a viewer. Less

23:36

harsh. It gives very much like

23:38

a queen who does

23:40

drag but doesn't hang around a lot of drag

23:42

queens. Like she's being sassy the way she thinks

23:45

she's supposed to be sassy, but it's not coming

23:47

across. Like I think Mistress is a great example

23:49

of someone who's shady and sassy, but in a

23:51

very fun way. Like she makes it, because she's,

23:54

you know, she has a little perk and

23:56

she's like, it's fun. She's

24:00

at it. She's fantastic at it. She

24:02

is a professional gas lighter. It's so

24:04

good. And she does

24:06

it with a twinkle in her eye. Even

24:09

when she's saying the meanest, craziest thing, you're

24:11

like, oh, she's the character. Yeah,

24:13

because she's being so unserious and I feel like

24:15

that's what plain things she's doing, you know, but

24:17

it's not. It's

24:19

not. It's not. Yeah. So without a

24:21

mini... Oh, go ahead. I feel like

24:24

she's learning. You know, I feel like we're

24:26

kind of watching her learn how to navigate

24:28

her shadiness. Yeah. So that's also an interesting

24:30

thing to watch as well. I

24:32

live. I live. And I... Well, I don't know if

24:34

I would say I live for this, but Giotto's here

24:36

and they

24:39

tricked these girls. Goochy, goochy,

24:41

goochy. They tricked these girls

24:43

into salsa dancing. What'd you think? I

24:46

live. It's interesting because like, did

24:48

they provide all these outfits or did they tell

24:50

them to have an outfit for this ready to

24:52

go and it's for this mini challenge? Because sometimes

24:55

they'll give us a list of outfits and we

24:57

don't use some of them or some of the

24:59

times they're for mini challenges. And we're like, oh,

25:01

I just spent this much money for a

25:03

fucking mini challenge for quick drag. You

25:07

know which one it is. You know

25:09

that they said, oh, just

25:11

kidding. This thing that you probably spent a ton of

25:13

money on is a quick drag look. Ha ha, lol.

25:16

Yeah. Because like some of... There was

25:18

a rack of like flamenco clothes that

25:20

they supplied I saw. Oh,

25:23

okay. I'm interested to know

25:25

if like, were they asked to do that

25:27

or were these all given to them? So

25:30

some of them look more great than others, like some

25:32

of their outfits. Yeah. But I think

25:34

it's so sickening that they're doing this. This

25:36

is such a fun challenge. And I will

25:38

say I was watching this. It reminded me

25:40

of my season when we did the little

25:43

Vogue ball when we all had to do

25:45

quick drag and do the... That was probably

25:47

the most fun on set that I had

25:49

being at Drag Race because RuPaul was like,

25:52

he just loves to see us be idiots and then he starts

25:54

being an idiot with us. And it's like the best. I love

25:56

it. It's so fun because Ru is

25:58

like having a good time with you. And it's

26:00

not about the competition in that moment. Ru's just

26:02

having the fun. We're having a, we're getting to

26:04

dance with Ru Paul. Like when Ru's dancing in

26:06

the end with Charo, it reminded me of that.

26:08

And it's like, it's such a good time. It

26:11

looked fun. It looked playful. It looked dumb.

26:14

I agree. I was so happy Ru

26:16

danced as well because I, we love

26:18

Ru because she's not, she's not above,

26:21

she's not above all of it. She's like, yes,

26:23

I will dance on camera and look like a

26:25

moron. She created a whole

26:27

empire where she just gets to laugh. You

26:29

know what I mean? Like she gets paid

26:31

to go and be, someone has to

26:33

make her laugh. Like that's the whole point of

26:35

turn out Grace is make Ru Paul laugh. The

26:38

whole point. Burger finger, like. Right.

26:40

Track the code. Burger

26:42

finger apparently is the best comedy the season

26:44

has to offer. Ru's

26:47

so tickled by that. It's just

26:49

so funny. Really tickled. So they're,

26:51

this week's challenge, any other shout

26:53

outs to this, these flamenco

26:55

salsa moments? Charles,

26:58

Charles just so hilarious. I live

27:00

for her. God, she looks the

27:02

same and good. She's

27:04

not aging. It's so wild. It's wild.

27:06

Her doctor, I want her doctor's number

27:08

immediately. She's so gorgeous. Have you seen

27:11

her son? Her son is so hot.

27:13

No, I haven't. Oh my God. It's

27:15

delicious. Yeah.

27:19

So let's get into this. We have

27:22

one of the sillier challenges I can

27:24

remember in recent history. Welcome

27:27

to the doll house where you have

27:29

to model a doll and

27:31

yourself in a new look you make

27:33

on the spot. Just

27:37

from the face of this, what did you think?

27:39

Let's pretend this is a challenge on your season.

27:41

What is the first thing you think when they

27:43

tell you this is the challenge? It's

27:46

very exciting. Cause it's all branding. And like

27:48

a lot of queens don't know what their

27:50

brand is. And I

27:53

have a very clear point of view and

27:55

brand. So it could go anywhere with mine,

27:57

you know and it'll be true to me.

28:00

Where I think where a lot of girls struggle

28:02

is like knowing what their brand is. So, you

28:05

know RuPaul

28:07

even said this is a branding challenge So you

28:09

have to really understand your brand and your point

28:11

of view and I feel like a lot of

28:13

girls Especially girls who start drag because of a

28:15

drag race like they don't necessarily have that they

28:17

just want to be on drag race And I

28:19

think that really starts to show sometimes I

28:24

Think also to like there's a lot of

28:26

emphasis on brand and branding for drag queens

28:28

but you know, I would say probably like

28:32

80% of drag queens out in the world don't necessarily

28:34

have a brand They're just doing drag to go perform

28:37

and make their little coin and you know to fill

28:39

their fantasy Now I don't wouldn't say

28:41

a lot of drag queens have the like, you

28:43

know the insight to think past.

28:46

Oh Having a brand or like

28:48

a career that is, you know Gonna hold them

28:50

throughout their lifetime. Like I just don't think that's a

28:52

lot of drag queens point of view Maybe they

28:54

they want to start drag because they want to go

28:56

on drag race but like I think it

28:59

takes a particular Queen who is

29:01

really like in tune with who they are to

29:03

have a very clear brand and to know what

29:05

that is already off The bat. Yeah,

29:07

I agree. I agree and I have

29:09

to say like big picture. I wanted

29:11

more branding from Most

29:14

of the Queens like just like go for

29:16

it. It'd be dumb. Have fun Cuz

29:20

I would say like dawn has a very clear point

29:22

of view You

29:24

know who else I would say Even

29:27

plane who who plane even though aren't

29:29

you talking about being Russian all the

29:31

time? Can you give me? I don't

29:33

know, but she's very drag as

29:35

clean as fuck Yeah,

29:39

it's Interesting. Yeah, I wanted more branding

29:41

because when the looks came down, you know

29:43

When I saw the looks together most of

29:45

them, I was like they just all look

29:47

like girls kind of you just laugh They

29:50

go back ladies, you know and I

29:52

love the fear that she's trying to make the opera like

29:54

her brand So like there's there's

29:57

there's that like there's something there for that.

29:59

But like you know, I look at like

30:02

even Maya, like she has her flips, right? She didn't

30:04

really saw that on the runway, but it was like,

30:07

there is a brand there that she can

30:09

like monopolize on, you know, okay, there's morphine

30:11

with her BBL, like she's a BBL girl,

30:13

you know, so like, there's

30:15

so much more, there's so much further that

30:18

it can go, but they have a good

30:20

start. Whereas opposed to like, you

30:22

know, even plasma, she's very clear, the

30:24

musical theater, old white lady,

30:27

old Hollywood, old white lady, I'm

30:29

with you. Yeah, I feel

30:31

like they could have maybe was challenging, but I

30:33

do think and I'm going to speak from the

30:35

producer point of view, this, this challenge

30:38

is a perfect trick. Because you know, just

30:40

like when they do the makeover challenge, it's

30:42

a perfect trick because they can always be

30:44

like, you didn't look enough like

30:46

your doll, or you looked

30:48

too much like your doll, or we

30:51

like the way your doll looked better, or

30:53

like there's just so many ways you can

30:55

fail the challenge. I

30:58

mean, they can make they can make

31:00

whatever they want happen. Trust me. So

31:04

that's, that's never a problem for them.

31:06

But it's very bad. It's very they

31:08

pick and choose when they want to

31:10

like implement an idea or not for

31:13

the trust. Right. Yeah. So

31:15

in the work room, we have

31:17

some fun drama, we have of

31:19

course, no one's buying Nymphia's anxiety.

31:21

And, and the other

31:23

really beautiful

31:26

story, of course, is, you know,

31:28

Q talking about her family. And

31:30

that was really, really touching

31:33

and beautiful just to hear about Q's

31:35

backstory. And yeah, maybe it made me

31:37

like Q a little more because I was

31:39

starting to be so over her because I

31:41

don't think she was a strong performer, but

31:43

they hear that she has theater background. I'm

31:45

like, oh, train. Tell me what

31:47

you really think. Fuck. Yeah,

31:50

I really related to her story to like,

31:53

you know, burnout with not a lot

31:55

of money and just like struggling in high

31:57

school and finding solace in theater like I

32:00

really related to her. Mm-hmm. I

32:03

get it. Yeah, it was a beautiful story. I

32:05

loved that her mom was emotional for her getting

32:07

on Drag Race. Oh, that made me cry. Oh

32:10

my God. It's not like going to the theater

32:12

during high school so you wouldn't people wouldn't know

32:15

you weren't eating during lunch. That fucked me up.

32:17

I was like, that was heartbreaking. Yeah, it was

32:19

very sweet. And you

32:21

can tell, I feel like she was just such an

32:23

introvert and like, you know what I mean? Like

32:26

she's just like a talented little introvert who makes her outfits

32:28

at home. Yeah, I feel for

32:30

her. I understand. I get it. I

32:32

like that we got that insight for her. It was cute. And

32:35

we got it. We've had so much Q story

32:37

these first six episodes. My God. It's like, can we,

32:39

I mean, look, I love Q, but I'm also like,

32:41

can we talk to the other girls? Yeah.

32:44

Can we meet the other girls? I don't, I don't

32:46

even know what Dawn's vibe

32:48

is that much because I've only

32:50

spoken to Q. I'm losing, I'm

32:52

winning, I'm not winning for six

32:54

episodes. It's a lot. Yeah. Eva

32:58

does the leg hair, TikTok thing. Do you have

33:00

anything to say about the leg hair, TikTok thing?

33:04

I live. I

33:06

love that she discovered that. That's fantastic.

33:09

I hate looking at it. That

33:12

is so, Selena is so perfectly put. I don't

33:14

want to look at it. I'm so happy for

33:16

you. Don't you dare put that in

33:18

my face ever again. I don't

33:20

know. It's just

33:22

like, it's just, it's

33:24

the very much the Amethyst and Robin storyline,

33:27

right? Where they're trying to push. Oh, they

33:29

dated. Oh, they dated. Oh, oh,

33:31

talk about the leg hair. Talk about the leg

33:33

hair. It's like, girl, the leg hair is so

33:35

irrelevant. Like can we talk about my drag? You

33:37

know, can I talk about something important? It's

33:39

getting rid of that. Do

33:42

you buy the, okay, so now we're gonna do

33:45

the plain Jane story moment. Plain

33:47

Jane's father threw

33:49

away her toys. Oh, yeah. It

33:52

explains why Jane's such a bitch. She, you

33:54

know, daddy didn't love her. I don't know.

33:57

It makes so much sense. Daddy didn't love her. It

34:00

doesn't make sense. And it says, all Russians are mean.

34:02

She didn't say that. She didn't say that. She

34:05

said all Russians are mean. She said

34:07

all Russians are mean and that's a fact. No,

34:12

yeah, that was interesting. I'm

34:15

still a little, speaking of Siberia,

34:17

I am icy on plain Jane.

34:19

I'm not, I think her drag

34:21

is fantastic, but.

34:24

That's the hard part. It's like, we wanna

34:26

hate her, but her drag's really good, so

34:28

it's hard. So like, if her drag was

34:30

horrible, we could be like, fuck you, go

34:32

home. But she's actually serving, so. I

34:35

will say this. They are eating

34:38

her up, watching the

34:40

judges cackle like hyenas when she

34:43

burps. Oh my God, yes. It's

34:45

scary, it's scary to me. No,

34:48

I noticed that. So this is the thing.

34:50

Literally, Michelle and Ru only ever see you

34:52

on the main stage. They don't get to

34:55

talk to you. They don't know what's going

34:57

on in the workroom. So we see plain

34:59

Jane being an evil cunt, in the workroom

35:01

to everyone. It makes us put a sour

35:04

taste in her mouth. But all the judges

35:06

are experiencing is her drag on the runway,

35:08

which has been great, polished, funny,

35:11

exciting to watch, and gorgeous to look at.

35:13

So they're not hating on her the way

35:16

the audience is hating on her. So I

35:18

noticed that the way that Ru is laughing

35:20

so hard for plain and comes every time

35:22

she steps on stage. She really is. She

35:26

squirts on me. She squirts all the

35:28

way across. She is screaming all over

35:31

LaRoches human hair. Yes.

35:36

I was kind of like taken

35:38

back when I noticed how much Ru was

35:40

laughing at her. And I was like, what?

35:42

It scared me. It's because they're

35:44

not getting the full story in the

35:46

workroom. They have no idea that she's

35:49

being a complete asshole off camera. So,

35:51

or they do know. Or they do.

35:53

I think they do. It's

35:56

like they know that's making good TV. So they're like,

35:58

thank you, bitch, for making good TV. for

36:00

us we're gonna praise you some more. I

36:02

guess we're in that. Last week when Ru

36:04

said something like, it was so

36:06

pointed, it was so funny when it was

36:08

like, literally Ru looks at Amanda and is

36:11

like, and says like, Amanda

36:13

how come you didn't look as good as,

36:15

you know, plain Jane who's on your girl

36:17

group? I'm like, you're gonna tell

36:19

me the producers didn't plant that right in her

36:21

ear. Is that what you're gonna tell me today?

36:24

Yeah, cause why would Ru say that?

36:26

Yeah, exactly. Ru

36:28

does look stunning in this, this omber

36:32

lime green, dark marine

36:34

fantasy. What'd

36:37

you think? People on Twitter were like,

36:39

oh, she had to make sure she looked good for

36:41

LaRoche. Yeah. She

36:44

couldn't look, well, she wore a wig

36:46

a couple of episodes ago that was

36:48

like, oh mama, what are you wearing?

36:50

It was funny. The one, the wind,

36:52

the wind blown one. Yeah, that was

36:54

funny. But she looks really good tonight.

36:56

She looks stunning. She's wearing the

36:58

gold socks or heels, like pleaser heels

37:01

that I live for. Ooh,

37:03

yes. Ru Paul loves those

37:05

heels. She loves them. She's

37:07

always talked about how you put them on

37:09

and then you take a hot blow dryer

37:11

to shrink them onto your foot. Uh-huh.

37:15

I don't know, it's tricky. T.S. Madison looks

37:17

good, LaRoche looks good, and they're both here

37:19

to aggravate and incite

37:21

the girls. I

37:23

don't think it's aggravating. I think it's real. You

37:26

know, I feel like, sometimes

37:30

other judges are just

37:32

there to do their job, whereas these

37:34

people actually understand from

37:36

the streets, from a

37:38

street level, you know what we're doing,

37:41

what drag is. So their advice and

37:43

their critiques are very much coming from

37:45

a place of, they know what they're

37:47

talking about. I did enjoy, I

37:50

definitely enjoyed LaRoche's. Some of, well, we'll

37:52

get there. Some of his critiques were

37:54

helpful. Not the one where

37:56

he said, your doll has RuPaul's legs and

37:58

you have Danny DeVito's. Because

38:01

that's not a critique. That's not a

38:03

critique. That's an attack. That's

38:05

the thing too. LaRocena's how to make good

38:07

TV. He's shady. You know what I mean?

38:10

He was a legendary. So if all is

38:12

shady, so I live. It's good TV at

38:14

the end of the day. It

38:17

was good TV. Let's talk about, so

38:19

listen, cheer me out. On this podcast,

38:21

we also are the only Drag

38:23

Race podcast. And if we like a look,

38:26

we chirp it. Okay.

38:29

If we don't like it, we burp it.

38:31

Oh, okay. Okay.

38:33

So we're going to look at these looks and

38:35

you're going to tell me if it's a chirp

38:37

or a burp. Okay, Diva. Okay.

38:40

Okay. We got Zunami giving

38:43

pants, giving pink

38:45

silk top, giving aquamarine belt.

38:47

What'd you think? It's

38:52

a baby burp. It is suspicious. I

38:56

think, yeah, because the pants are tailored nice,

38:59

but the top is a little interesting. And

39:01

like it gives very much. She

39:03

doesn't know how to sew, but she made a, she didn't

39:05

just make a two piece, you know, which is an undesigned

39:07

challenge is I hate when girls just make a top and

39:09

a square and like, oh, they're safe. At

39:11

least she really tried to make something interesting. And

39:13

like, it does like if

39:15

it were made correctly, correctly, it probably

39:18

very high fashion. So I live. Yeah,

39:20

I am also going to give it a burp.

39:23

It's, I get it. But

39:25

it's unfortunate the doll looks a little better than

39:27

she does, which, you know, that's tough. She's

39:31

gorgeous, but I have to burp it. Yeah.

39:36

Next, Safira Cristal. Oh,

39:39

okay. I have so many. I have opinions of

39:41

this. I don't think this is that bad. No,

39:44

it's not bad at all. I mean, it's, it's

39:47

fine. I don't think it's horrible. No,

39:50

and it's certainly not in the bottom three or

39:52

four. So I don't know why she used that

39:54

immunity potion. But again, there's things

39:56

that go on on stage. A producer will

39:58

say something in someone's ear. My

40:00

name Reality. See how cameras are? Movie

40:02

you? never? You never know. so maybe

40:05

soon. suits. Feeling a little paranoid in

40:07

that moment? you know? Maybe.

40:09

It's it's. hardly. A Smart I mean they

40:11

by bad production one her to use the

40:13

potion because it's just not on T V

40:15

for us to watch You hold onto your

40:18

posts And for six episodes yeah you never

40:20

know. It's been full of the them off

40:22

days lived there. So much of a goes

40:24

on that goes down and you hear whispers

40:26

are you feel eyes shifting so I can

40:29

understand. That's probably what really happens. Think

40:32

that these as you a hot button

40:35

question for you. But first. Silence.

40:39

I. See like taking a break us and

40:41

just as I'm an Edu a little

40:43

bit longer. Okay. My

40:56

break out or on the edge of

40:58

glory. Didn't think these girls made these

41:00

dolls. Or. Vaccine Okay,

41:02

okay I would like. did the girl doesn't

41:05

make these dolls or did production make these

41:07

dolls of my glass Know now they one

41:09

thousand percent made them themselves and whatever their

41:11

handed Edmunds with. A made I

41:13

believe. I believe that. Okay good to know

41:16

I was on the fence Cells like this.

41:18

Cecile so crazy to have to do both.

41:20

And then you change your necklace and then

41:22

you have to go change the neck with

41:24

on the doll etc vice versa. He had

41:26

a yacht I think I think our Ah

41:28

Tian up in bed production with us that.

41:31

I. Sort of say I Love to see are so

41:33

much. Her narration was the best and the episode i

41:36

think she's being slept on by the fans. Problem.

41:39

And as she's black and fans

41:42

are racist. Ah, maybe I would.

41:45

I. Say if there is a sign of

41:47

like the farcical be effect where says you're

41:49

so good at everything you do that you

41:51

can have a month but seafood into the

41:53

background to the resources up on the runway

41:56

with that mean but it's like there's not

41:58

much storyline happening you're not really. Mom

42:00

and the workers you must have conversations can be

42:02

just, you're just sickening. If you do your thing

42:04

and like he served though, he just expect that

42:07

from you. In I think it's kind

42:09

of stuff kind of like about the role

42:11

as it fell into. Jazz.

42:14

With we trust her, we trust her enough

42:16

to count busted. Not gonna last message going

42:19

to be fine for seat belt as you're

42:21

right, I just want more flowers for her

42:23

but as soon. As. You're right,

42:25

like is so good. She's clearly as the

42:27

end and now we're fine as in that

42:29

like you said the call be up at

42:31

all where an ass the in between where

42:33

it's like okay what's what's but what's gonna

42:35

happen In the meantime I was in. It's

42:37

also may be why she did her posts

42:39

in a gave her some screen time and

42:41

gave her a little bit of a story

42:43

line all that into I remember my see

42:46

that in there is a girl who was

42:48

like. Doing. Fine and doing great

42:50

Jackson's it was doing amazing and then they're

42:52

like if you don't suck at all of

42:54

them trauma that happens you you're probably going

42:56

to get them home soon. Girls like the

42:59

girl came to I was like the current

43:01

into to go on the Federal think about

43:03

trauma but I don't have trauma and his

43:05

were like fuck. You can't think of anything

43:08

in there like triple my grandma died in

43:10

our thirteen. They're like this. talk about that

43:12

as the like that very much in out

43:14

there playing their game. Like I said south

43:17

of Seattle Vice. If you don't worry. Something.

43:20

To talk about the get the thrill I had a

43:22

year in the ready to go home. Though it's probably

43:24

you know what happened. Nice God severance

43:26

by small things. Nice I am

43:28

a living with. How was it

43:30

being on the season with sauce

43:32

a call the like Odyssey says

43:35

like Odyssey she's just wonderful and

43:37

magnanimous luck with it. Was.

43:39

It a treats was it? Spooky.

43:42

always the vibes their why i didn't

43:44

know saucer colby as a slight legendary

43:46

icons from continental i knew her out

43:48

after kobe we were doing brings together

43:50

and like that i didn't know i

43:52

knew she was like the continental body

43:54

know them out were like what a

43:56

big deal now was the high desert

43:58

know her as like sister from brunch

44:00

bitch we're out here hustling making money and

44:03

like where those girls that they call

44:05

and put at the end of the lineup you know

44:07

like me and Sasha were those girls so that's how

44:09

I know Sasha so to be there was just to

44:11

have like my big sister you know

44:13

on the show with me so that's how it

44:15

felt for me it was beautiful I didn't see

44:18

it competition I didn't see her as anything

44:20

like I always knew she was gonna go

44:22

far because she's just that girl um so

44:25

I've never thought anything of it when yeah

44:28

we were there for me work

44:31

work do you chirp or burp

44:33

sasiras look oh it's a

44:36

soft chirp yeah I think so

44:38

I think it's pretty cute um

44:40

yeah it's well it's a little made I like

44:42

the lining stop where it stopped it looks like

44:44

yeah it was sexy yeah and

44:47

I love her face oh my god her

44:49

eyes are beautiful and funny plasma

44:52

giving her passenger on

44:55

the pacific as she calls it what do you

44:57

think oh

44:59

she's fine there's

45:02

always the white musical theater gay and like

45:04

you know what I mean rue hates them

45:08

I love how much rue I know oh

45:11

she loves jinx and then no one else

45:13

did you see when um rue

45:16

said something on plasma well

45:18

usually barber strafe had makeup and rue

45:20

was like okay thank you I

45:25

just love it I live I live that

45:27

rue can't stand them but she lives for

45:29

them but I hate them at the same

45:31

time I know I wish the the ribbon

45:33

draping I know it's easier said than done

45:35

but if that ribbon was dramatically larger I

45:37

think it could have made everything look more

45:39

dramatic oh if it's flown in the wind

45:41

as she walked it would have been cunts

45:43

but she's using like yeah

45:45

it's just a heavy fabric yes I'm gonna

45:47

have to burp it but it's not terrible

45:49

but I am gonna burp it yeah

45:52

it's not horrible I'm

45:54

so so cheesy bro

45:57

it's fine plain

45:59

jam Aqatic edition giving

46:01

skater bathing suit in her own

46:04

words What you think?

46:06

It looks amazing. I was not expecting this

46:09

when I saw the doll I was like

46:11

wait, this is kind of sickening because like

46:13

dolls give that right dolls Give this kind of

46:15

look with the flirty flounce of the tool and

46:18

the like the dazzle men of it all like

46:20

the doll Looks so good. So when she came

46:22

out, I was like, oh she looks great

46:25

I love this too crazy about the little white

46:27

train on the back It just looked like an

46:29

afterthought that she attached to it. Yeah, I agree

46:37

It was cute, I

46:40

like the hair I'm

46:44

still feeling the same way I've always felt which I

46:47

think she's really talented but it's hard to root for

46:49

her right now or that's how I'm feeling I could

46:51

be wrong. Yeah, it's

46:53

a light trip for me. Yeah like

46:58

Nimpio when giving spring

47:00

banana, I Love

47:03

this so much. I love this Everyone

47:06

loved it. I don't I wish the doll cuz

47:08

the doll was all yellow, right and she had

47:10

a pink bow That's true. I

47:13

don't know why that disturbed me so much. I was

47:15

like wait Had

47:18

a hair detail there. Do you

47:20

see that like hair? Yeah, like the little feather

47:22

thing in the hair, which I think yeah her

47:24

look over the top, which was fine I

47:26

don't know. I thought this was okay I

47:29

I saw where she was going because it

47:31

gives that very like classic idea of those

47:33

fashion dolls You know what? I mean? Yeah,

47:35

like those fashion Barbies back like those vintage

47:37

ones They vary that which I loved because

47:39

it was like, oh, that's exactly what this

47:41

is giving But those old

47:43

Christmas Barbies from the night. Yes

47:45

very that yeah outfit didn't

47:48

like really Something

47:50

about it wasn't giving for me. I don't know what

47:52

it was. I don't know I don't know if it

47:54

was the bow just seemed very I don't know. She

47:56

looks good. I don't know you listen

47:59

to your heart There's no wrong answer. I'm

48:01

chirping it. I bought I bought the

48:03

bow it gave me like I also gave me like 90s

48:08

Yes, yeah, and woman who's

48:10

married to the Prime Minister

48:12

of yeah Of

48:15

Indonesia, I loved it I thought

48:17

everyone on Twitter was outraged because she wasn't in the top

48:19

and she was safe for this and I was like well

48:22

I get it. I mean I it's great, but I

48:24

didn't think it was like oh my god. It wasn't

48:26

you you know I would have

48:28

put her well I would have put

48:30

her in the top, but I get it I get it

48:33

I would have put her in the top But I also

48:35

think her story is so like obviously she's in the top

48:37

that they're trying to hide her in the edit a little

48:39

bit Yeah, 1000% and

48:41

yeah, like she's another example of

48:43

branding. That's just like so good.

48:45

She knows her brand really good We

48:49

got morphine loves Dion giving Miami

48:51

bimbo, what'd you think? I

48:54

hated the hair on the doll like why? crazy

49:00

Giant wig like that, but I thought I was like oh,

49:02

she wasn't better than the doll work I

49:04

was surprised no one did like an ugly Funny

49:07

doll like like weird Barbie why I if

49:09

I was there I would have done weird

49:11

Barbie You know what I mean or those

49:13

vibes. That's a I don't know right Honey,

49:16

but it's a risk. It's a risk unless

49:18

it's a risk. Yeah,

49:21

cuz they could say how how iconic and

49:23

irreverent or they could say Like no girl

49:25

would pick up this doll, you know. Yeah,

49:27

exactly What'd you

49:29

think morphine she's missing a tooth? She's

49:32

giving Miami, but she's trying to be

49:34

a little bit She's trying

49:36

to get a little she's trying to give her

49:38

brand and also surprised them in a sense Yeah,

49:41

she gave them that I saw another sweet I

49:43

was like not been telling morphine and don't to

49:45

go against their brand in the next episodes of

49:47

branding challenge. Yeah I

49:51

Thought she sold the little tooth gag nicely. It

49:53

wasn't like overly put it was she wasn't pushing

49:56

too hard for it So I thought it was

49:58

it was cute. I didn't think she needed But

50:00

like I gave the judges what they wanted, you

50:02

know, to be a little different. But I

50:04

thought she was fine I think this very Versace

50:06

to use like the JLo dress. It

50:09

was giving very that I'm gonna be unfair

50:11

and burp it But

50:13

it's not bad. Like she looks pretty

50:15

but it is straps of fab.

50:17

It's pieces of fabric It

50:19

looks like she's just like pulled fabric across

50:21

inside not like make it work Yeah, and

50:24

it's not lined and then she yelled at

50:26

Maya for not lining, but this isn't lined

50:29

Yeah, okay. I'm just gonna

50:31

keep going cuz I'm being very that Maya

50:34

Iman LaPage Queen of Flips Her

50:37

doll looks so crazy Silly

50:42

what helped me diagnose this help

50:44

me With other girls

50:46

dolls padded where the dolls pat cuz they made

50:48

such a big deal about her doll not being

50:50

padded Like I was like y'all that's what you're

50:52

worried about It was just kind of weird to

50:55

me But I was like it was I was

50:57

like I would have wanted more titties in the

50:59

doll to not sure titties that she wore Yeah,

51:02

I again, it's the classic

51:04

trick of them any makeover challenge They they

51:06

get to say you look too much like

51:08

your family member. You look nothing like your

51:10

family member We liked

51:12

how they looked coordinated. We didn't like like

51:15

it's a trick in my opinion Yeah,

51:17

cuz I mean the body suits well made like her

51:19

body suit looks good. I agree with through

51:21

like it's not lined It's not him. She just took a

51:23

piece of fabric and like taped it to the top of

51:25

her shoulders That's no way no,

51:28

but like I don't know.

51:30

I also don't like this hair too much. I

51:32

feel like it's in the way I don't

51:35

know. It's especially during her lipstick. I was like if she

51:37

doesn't have that big eyes But

51:43

yeah, it's a burp I am gonna

51:45

burp this Um Yeah,

51:48

it's not hideous, but it's just not super

51:50

memorable the about the body suits will go

51:52

me but then it's just a body Suits.

51:55

Oh, yeah Oh,

51:57

I always think back to George's

51:59

is way on her ball challenge

52:01

hilarious that little like swimsuit I'm

52:03

like hilarious if you all are

52:05

giving George a win for that then like nothing matters

52:08

here like really they

52:10

pick whatever they want to happen at the

52:12

end of the day and that is the

52:14

night the lights went out at drag race

52:17

um yeah that was just agitation we

52:20

we that was a really silly time

52:22

but my commie looks great I I

52:24

didn't realize like watching it I'm like

52:26

this is design challenge like I can't

52:29

believe she made that it looks like a you

52:31

know it looks like an actual it's funny I

52:35

keep counting her out and she keeps

52:37

shutting me up every

52:39

time everyone sleeps on my gummy like she's

52:41

I always say this like she gives there's

52:43

something about her that's a little cringe like

52:45

I think it's the way she walks or

52:47

sometimes like the way she sells stuff on

52:49

the runway is a little cringy but she

52:52

gives her outfits are always like I would

52:54

say for outfits were on a

52:56

skinny girl we would all gag and come

52:58

over it but because she's a little thicker and

53:00

she's a little like harder than eyes is

53:03

that period that's the the the

53:05

body phobia the

53:08

the the bias towards a

53:10

tiny body on these runways

53:12

is so awful yeah

53:14

but I'm again I think that's just like

53:16

beauty standards right like you were saying before

53:18

like you're creating standards of skinny that's what's

53:21

implemented in our mind as beautiful so when

53:23

we see someone thicker we automatically want to

53:25

cancel them out but if you look at

53:27

it the proportions are right the the outfits

53:29

sickening it's all lined it's gorgeous it's well

53:32

made uh I don't

53:34

think there's I mean then again the

53:36

crown the coffee but yeah it was

53:38

fine I have to yeah this is a

53:40

chirp the hair is nice the

53:42

makeup everything's nice she keeps shutting me up it's

53:45

nice and it's it feels special so many of

53:47

the looks like I said feel like a girl

53:49

a girl in a world this

53:51

feels special it's a chirp yeah

53:54

it's a chirpy chirp chirp Geneva Carr who had

53:56

a lot of drama in that work room trying

53:58

to make a look and then and she started

54:00

over and everyone's wearing the same color

54:02

blue. What'd you think? This

54:05

could have been good. There was

54:07

so much to come here. It was close.

54:09

It was very close. Like she had those

54:11

big pieettes. She could have made something so

54:13

sickening with those pieettes. Like there's just... It's

54:15

hard to find giant pieettes like that. Even

54:17

downtown, they have like as big as that.

54:19

And like I think RuPaul wore

54:21

a dress in a couple episodes ago

54:23

that were these giant pieettes. It was

54:26

just so gorgeous. And yeah,

54:28

I think it was just too many ideas in one. As

54:30

she toned it down and maybe just stuck to one or

54:33

two fabrics, it could have been a moment. Yeah.

54:35

Yeah. They clocked her for

54:38

the different blues and... Yeah,

54:42

I think the piece in the front, the

54:44

ruffle in the front helps her. Right.

54:46

It looks a little... It looks like

54:48

it forgot to take Viagra. It looks a little

54:50

limp. She

54:53

needs some hymns. Yeah.

54:55

Hahaha! That's hymns.com, flashdragger.

55:00

It's a... God, it's not

55:02

ugly though. It's not... You know what I

55:04

mean? Her face is

55:06

cute. We

55:09

saw this with her last design challenge too

55:11

where like... Same. It was...

55:13

She almost could have had something, but it

55:15

was a mess, you know? So... I'm

55:18

gonna burp it. Oh,

55:21

yeah. Dawn

55:24

Galactic Impress. Changing

55:27

her makeup. What'd you think? I

55:30

liked it. I didn't even realize

55:33

that she changed her makeup. I'm just like... It

55:36

made me such a big deal about that stuff,

55:38

but she's so talented. Her artistry

55:40

with makeup is just so great that, like, I

55:42

don't know, she's great. So it's

55:44

still her. Like, even though her skin tones

55:46

change, it's still her. So I live. I

55:48

love that. I thought this outfit

55:51

was cool. I just hated

55:53

all the scenes in the front. Like,

55:55

I mean, that's my own design nitpicky thing. Like

55:57

all the scenes in the front of the dress.

56:00

I wish it was just like a clean skirt,

56:02

but you don't get a lot of fabric sometimes to make so

56:04

she had to make it work and I thought she looked, she

56:07

looked cool. I didn't mind this look at all.

56:09

I don't think it was like... I thought it was really cool too.

56:11

Yeah, I don't think it was like... Perfection. Yeah,

56:14

it wasn't perfection, but I like that look

56:16

what she's capable of. I see the potential

56:18

of this being like, you know, some real

56:20

designer had their hands on it, it'd be

56:22

sickening, but I thought she did great. It

56:24

looks great. It does look great. I

56:26

couldn't help but notice that the doll's shoulders, like I

56:28

almost liked the way it looked on the doll's shoulders

56:30

better than hers, like the way that it had like

56:32

this like definitive blue shoulder. I

56:34

kind of loved that on the doll.

56:37

I don't even notice that work. Whatever,

56:40

it's good. It's hard to do that. Oh,

56:42

I see. You know what I mean? Like the doll

56:44

has this definitive shoulder. I was like, oh, that looks

56:46

good. And then I couldn't help but then

56:48

compare it to her shoulder and go, oh, it's a little

56:52

different. It's a chirp. It's interesting. It's

56:54

a chirp. I don't think it's finished

56:56

at that. I don't think there's a hem on the

56:58

bottom of that dress either, but there you go. They

57:00

pick a shoe. I know when they turned around and

57:02

they were like, oh, work. I was like, law. Yeah.

57:05

Or even even the face, kini portion,

57:07

like if that wasn't him. So that

57:10

was the first thing I noticed. So

57:12

there's there's like, you know, they're I

57:14

say I would put some hair even

57:16

sometimes like under I like

57:19

it when you put hair underneath, even if

57:21

it's just for some poke outs. Yeah, a

57:23

little pussycat wave. And

57:25

then I'm like, oh, I'm getting to because so it's not just so like my

57:28

head is wearing a condom. Yeah,

57:30

sometimes even a little poof to help the

57:32

proportion to D. D. Oh,

57:35

I get it. A condom. I

57:38

don't wear one of those. No, we're

57:40

on him. We're on prep. We're fine.

57:43

We're fine. Yeah. Until

57:47

Trojan wants to sponsor the pod again.

57:49

Then I'll rave. Oh, rave about condoms.

57:51

But it's been a while for our

57:54

pleasure. We're going through some hard

57:56

times in the gay community. Cute.

58:00

to see edition giving Demogorgon goes to

58:02

Fashion Week. What'd you think? Oh,

58:04

she ate this so sickening because that's

58:06

the thing right you look at this

58:09

and you're like how did you have

58:11

enough time to have enough to have

58:13

the same amount of time as Maya

58:15

you know, and the

58:17

fact that she was able to make this in my made

58:19

that it's like girl. Yeah, you know,

58:21

it's just crazy to me. So

58:24

yeah, sickening the glitter was

58:26

such a nice touch. It was like, oh,

58:29

it's just getting better and better. I don't

58:31

like her. I was weird

58:36

about the wire wings. I don't know if I was

58:38

sold on the wire wings. What do you talk to

58:40

me? Did you like the wire wings? Oh, I didn't

58:42

realize they were wings. I just thought it was like

58:45

funky interesting things. I didn't realize

58:47

it was wings. So the fact that you

58:49

say wings makes me not like it as

58:51

much. I thought it was like interesting like,

58:54

technical wire like,

58:57

like energy coming out of her. Now that

58:59

you say wings, I'm like, Oh, yeah, that

59:01

was really good. But it's fine. I didn't

59:03

I didn't mind it. It's still really, really,

59:05

really good. And I mean, it's like unique.

59:07

And especially when you see her standing next

59:10

to other girls, you're like, Oh, she

59:12

had a point of view. And some of these

59:14

girls look like girls that had

59:17

pieces. It's really gorgeous.

59:19

She wanted to win. Well, here we

59:22

go. Here

59:24

we are in critiques. La Roach continues

59:27

to be a funny little bitch. And

59:32

plasma is finally painting her

59:34

lips bigger. Maya gets

59:36

points for having sweaty titties. Oh,

59:40

random. So

59:43

fucking random. It

59:46

was you know what it was giving me low key

59:48

was like, La Roach is looking

59:50

out for her black girl like which I kind of

59:52

live for. So he's like, Oh, let me come up

59:54

with anything. Bitch, you may want

59:56

to be a lesbian like it was

59:59

giving like sister you know, so like

1:00:01

I feel like sometimes I don't

1:00:03

know, I thought that I think you're 100% on the money That's

1:00:06

what it was giving. I was like you had to find

1:00:08

something good about it. Yeah, cuz she

1:00:11

was like look she's she's been getting She's

1:00:14

been getting right up here. Let me know sometimes,

1:00:16

you know, cuz I don't think they tell I Definitely

1:00:19

feel all in my heart and soul. They

1:00:21

kind of tell Michelle and sometimes the

1:00:23

revolving judge Like the Carson the drawers and

1:00:25

the Madison I feel like they kind of

1:00:27

tell them what we're to lean into and

1:00:29

we're not to lean into Just

1:00:32

from my experience being there They also don't

1:00:34

show you all the critiques like everyone has

1:00:37

their own time to speak every every judge

1:00:39

talks for like You know a minute up

1:00:42

to five minutes. So we're only getting like

1:00:44

a 30-second snippet So there's a lot

1:00:46

that gets cut out but I don't

1:00:48

they don't I don't believe they tell the guest judge

1:00:50

How does it respond? That's why the guest judge sometimes

1:00:52

goes against what Michelle says Sometimes they go against

1:00:55

the narratives that's being pushed on us so I

1:00:57

always expect when the guest judge to speak because

1:00:59

they're not being told how to To

1:01:02

judge they're just judging from their heart and

1:01:05

sometimes they're having a point of view like from

1:01:07

the audience's point of view Where it's just fresh.

1:01:09

They're watching it for the you know without any

1:01:11

bias or anything. So the

1:01:14

fact I could probably sense that maybe they were Big

1:01:17

that law maybe felt the judges were like

1:01:19

coming for Maya because she was probably gonna

1:01:21

always be in the bottom for this So

1:01:24

she was probably like let me come up with

1:01:26

some stupid thing to give her a nice little

1:01:28

moment to muster So, you know giving them and

1:01:31

that's like a deeper sense that I have.

1:01:33

Sorry. I want a little rent No, bitch,

1:01:36

that's why you're here. I want you here

1:01:39

That was knowledge look as a

1:01:41

bonafide lip-sync assassin. What did you

1:01:43

think watching this? Janet

1:01:47

Jackson lip-sync with Geneva

1:01:49

Carr the Maya Iman

1:01:51

Lepej. I Don't

1:01:53

know how long Geneva's been doing drag, but

1:01:56

sure, the way she performed is very baby drag

1:01:58

to me because it's like I'm

1:02:00

just gonna whip this out just cuz I'm gonna do

1:02:03

that that that that that gonna cut that up a

1:02:05

slit. There's like, I don't

1:02:07

know if you've ever watched Raven

1:02:09

perform. Have you ever seen Raven

1:02:12

perform? Yes. There's something about

1:02:14

her where she can just stand there

1:02:16

and she's just so stunning. And she

1:02:18

she just stands there and listening to

1:02:20

song and it's like we're so enthralled

1:02:23

by her. Because I don't know

1:02:25

if it's her beauty or her power. It's her presence.

1:02:27

It is so powerful. There's this like

1:02:30

calm and stillness that you have when

1:02:32

you know, yeah, I

1:02:34

feel like as time goes on and Geneva like,

1:02:36

you know, just a little more experience or whatever.

1:02:39

I don't know how long to do a drag.

1:02:41

But like there's a stillness that you have that

1:02:43

like allows you to take control and then we

1:02:45

start to trust you. So when you do a

1:02:47

little trick or something, it's like, oh my God.

1:02:50

Oh my God. Second eight. So I feel like

1:02:52

that's something that was all short for Geneva. She

1:02:54

doesn't she does the most just to try to

1:02:56

be like, look at me. Look at me. But

1:02:58

it doesn't work. So Geneva is a

1:03:01

top for me. I think she should have she probably

1:03:03

could have gone home a couple of hours ago to

1:03:05

be honest. I

1:03:07

kind of like to be honest. Yeah,

1:03:11

it's kind of like I call it

1:03:13

hanging on by a thread. Lucky assassin. Quite

1:03:15

the lucky assassin, I'll say. No, I wouldn't

1:03:17

even call her an assassin to be quite

1:03:20

honest. I think that's giving her too much

1:03:22

credit because like with

1:03:24

Mirage, it was the technicality. I

1:03:27

still think Mirage ate her up even though she was a

1:03:29

little worse. You know what I mean? So I know

1:03:32

what it is. I think

1:03:34

Maya had that breastplate on and she had that wig

1:03:36

which kept her from really going full out. But I

1:03:38

like that we got a little bit of what she

1:03:40

has to show. But I know next

1:03:42

time she's going to probably really good with all the

1:03:45

breastplate and the hair because she's doing all these flips.

1:03:47

That should have done. So I

1:03:49

love it on but she impressed me

1:03:52

because she she was in the lip sync.

1:03:54

She was flipping. She was hitting the word

1:03:56

during it. She was picking her

1:03:58

body right up onto her. I was

1:04:00

very impressed. It was what I was

1:04:02

hoping and the hair ties hair tying

1:04:05

her own shoulder wings back I

1:04:07

love that the judges lived and I lived too.

1:04:10

Yeah, it was getting very much like like the

1:04:12

girls the streets about to fight Like let me

1:04:14

put my hands It

1:04:17

was a pro move. It was a badass move

1:04:19

Geneva car drives herself

1:04:22

home. Goodbye, Geneva Okay,

1:04:25

RuPaul That

1:04:28

was hilarious, but also What

1:04:31

someone's I think Bob the drag queen said I forgot

1:04:33

who said that but they're like Who

1:04:35

comes with their exit line prepared? But obviously

1:04:38

you're not here to to win girl if

1:04:40

you already have your exit line prepared Like

1:04:44

I never had my exit line prepared cuz I

1:04:46

never planned on going home So like

1:04:48

whatever came out is what came out of the moment.

1:04:50

I remember you saying something I wish I remember what

1:04:52

you said cuz I remember it being very funny I

1:04:55

was walked I had a feeling

1:04:57

they're gonna send me home because You just

1:04:59

you you kind of already know like at

1:05:01

the top of the day who they plan

1:05:03

on wanting to go home It's very clear.

1:05:05

So I had a feeling

1:05:08

so I pulled the girls on the bus I was like

1:05:10

y'all if I go home for whatever reason I'm gonna sing

1:05:12

this song and I want you guys to sing along The

1:05:21

girls sing along with me and then I was like the

1:05:23

cities are coming It was just

1:05:25

stupid I didn't have anything planned cuz they

1:05:27

know you also won that lip sync, but that's

1:05:30

neither here nor there Okay,

1:05:33

I have one more kind of serious question

1:05:35

before we go I hate to

1:05:38

kind of bring it down But I do have kind of

1:05:40

a serious question. I want to ask you Will

1:05:44

you eat my ass baguette

1:05:48

I would love to eat your ass I Would

1:05:52

love to thank you Selena. Okay,

1:05:54

I'll be weird. Okay cool.

1:05:56

I'll let me get in the kitchen and cook

1:05:58

some ass up Good,

1:06:01

I'm hungry. Selena,

1:06:04

remind us where we can come support

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a dumb drink it pretty well. I got I

1:08:16

gotta eat your ass now So oh, okay, that's

1:08:19

right. Okay. Wait, let's do that and then have

1:08:21

a drink Cuz I'm not trying to We

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want the ass to be fresh so you

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don't want it to be sitting around till

1:08:30

till next time Let

1:08:33

the music play Oh

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That was a hit dumb original