Greg and Shelly welcome you to the show and take care of the introductions. Later, Shelly welcomes back author and professor of philosophy, Terrance MacMullan for a brand new edition of How To DM. This week, Terrance speaks on DMing for new friends. Our special interview this week is with host and producer of Making a Monster and freelance narrative designer, Lucas Zellers! For general inquiries or show messages, please email [email protected] Dragon Talk is executively produced by Greg Tito, Shelly Mazzanoble & Wizards of The Coast. Show production by Lisa Carr & Ryan Marth of Siren Sound. Podcast recording, editing, mixing and mastering by Ryan Marth & Siren Sound.

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How To DM - 2:58

Interview - 36:58

Outro - 1:41:52

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