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Dragon Talk: #357 - R.A. Salvatore, Insight Check with Andrew Clementi

Dragon Talk: #357 - R.A. Salvatore, Insight Check with Andrew Clementi

Released Wednesday, 3rd August 2022
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Dragon Talk: #357 - R.A. Salvatore, Insight Check with Andrew Clementi

Dragon Talk: #357 - R.A. Salvatore, Insight Check with Andrew Clementi

Dragon Talk: #357 - R.A. Salvatore, Insight Check with Andrew Clementi

Dragon Talk: #357 - R.A. Salvatore, Insight Check with Andrew Clementi

Wednesday, 3rd August 2022
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interviewing

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out as well as the person who

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have slowed our uploads

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up for an hour episodes

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enter committee on inside check very s

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and emotionally this emotionally this about and

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i made it through an extra

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yeah i don't have funds for you

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and rounds

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armor and i think

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we have a very

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episode of those the official

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done to the dragon podcast

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i'm greg tito named can't wait

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we're selling as a noble and myself

1:00

that u s

1:02

the talk to bob

1:03

the to

1:05

the body is coming back very excited

1:07

he's got a new just book publishing

1:10

here next month yes then

1:13

a one following that so exciting

1:15

for

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get the make sure i get the glaciers eggs

1:19

and the dow of dress

1:20

yes yeah

1:22

second in his current

1:25

, trilogy following on the foothills

1:27

of the starlight enclave but

1:30

the dow dressed as dow dressed cool him because it's a collection

1:32

of all of the essays person

1:34

essays that dressed dude

1:36

in the character has written

1:39

over the many decades of bob

1:41

writing himself what a cool yeah political now

1:43

well you might

1:45

there are very hard credit

1:48

for both of those

1:49

learning about the way of the drought

1:52

yes we are

1:52

and the scimitars that

1:55

the

1:56

do you know what else i'm excited about

1:59

what do you have

2:02

it

2:03

playing dungeons and

2:05

you know all the here's what i'm telling

2:07

you they're everywhere

2:09

and then multiply

2:11

while i was at queen's baseball game yesterday

2:14

my told you they week the week before i had

2:16

snacks activity so i were inducer

2:19

on and then we

2:21

this was sat and with and mom she was talking

2:24

her son and i

2:26

just said he ever play dungeons

2:28

and dragons and

2:30

she just respond as was like

2:33

the most normal nurse of like know

2:35

but he really wants to

2:37

and i thought my eyes like the here's

2:39

a ten year old kid who knows it enough about

2:41

the indeed another he wants the plane she's a he actually

2:43

has done his and

2:46

like a book but he doesn't really know what to do

2:48

with do with as we were chatting about

2:50

the indy and how i can her get her kids

2:52

started a dad and his kid walked

2:54

by the kid is also on the team

2:57

she said oh this kid was

2:59

the indy and he stopped in his tracks

3:02

and he was like dungeons dragons what what are we about i was

3:04

like about this and till up so that net

3:06

we started talking about his character is

3:08

his stuff he plays a mind but

3:10

sometimes the warlock and he really wants

3:12

to be a dungeon master but it is in ohio and like

3:14

all of his campaigns and he was as on and on

3:17

and on and on to the point where like the game was starting

3:19

in the coach was like get in the get

3:21

in the dugout stuff to fucking i come and

3:23

he was flicks keep talking about kiwi

3:26

to keep talking the soy of this

3:28

of this bozos kids are like getting

3:31

it on either side of quinn in the

3:33

dugout and they start

3:35

they continue their d and he discusses like

3:38

over cleanse pad and claims like

3:41

be there is something about this dungeons

3:43

and dragons thing mans

3:45

rice but it says greg

3:48

they're out there they're already playing

3:50

it and loving and they're like and less sweet

3:52

spot age of like nine ten eleven

3:55

there the

3:57

they don't

3:58

funding that there

3:59

the

4:00

enticed by and even though they're all

4:03

like digital sport night in of

4:05

acts as i need activity all the time

4:07

and streaming and listen that it's like know

4:10

i also do different a

4:12

the came up with people i

4:15

want a pencil i want some days

4:18

and i just wanna play the any it's

4:20

don't

4:21

i have my heartless so full of and

4:23

i to the dad for like the

4:25

wow like the whole game he was asking me questions

4:28

about the indy and how he said wife

4:30

and i want to support his emphasis

4:32

if we are trying to figure out how to play

4:34

to like does come over

4:37

far who the

4:38

ah

4:40

yeah i volunteered smile

4:42

and

4:42

i want our bird to just start

4:44

this game going yes

4:47

well i don't want glorious

4:49

tenement more we were camping when

4:51

the reasons why we didn't have a dragon talk episode

4:54

we skip one there because i was camping

4:56

words per week which is already very

4:58

deandre like by adding

5:00

, materials because there's enough going on you

5:02

know to said said get up but

5:05

we have some friends virus from

5:07

college or they were

5:09

actors they moved to york with us

5:11

or though wife is actually from this

5:14

area so she moved to the discipline back to the pacific northwest

5:16

a little while ago ah have

5:19

a son named notice and he

5:22

he like oh yeah you're i want

5:24

i'm talking about the andy and most of the wife

5:26

was like yeah he's and trying get like us

5:28

to like we don't anything seemed very similar like

5:30

we don't know what to do but like both of us and so he

5:33

out his i did got him the essentials gets

5:35

and sounds like we had are just get and

5:37

he was like talking about a year with

5:39

he brought seemed as though

5:41

we are so me of see everything

5:43

that he done he made his character but he still hadn't played

5:46

yeah he doesn't really ios i made a character

5:48

he made a character using the rulebook

5:50

character essentials get and was like all and

5:53

down with a weird her mother a weird

5:55

choices that he and they lose your background mobile

5:57

it was like super cool and you know you

5:59

could just

5:59

the his storytelling muscles

6:03

like to skyn are going to have

6:05

overdrive thinking about how we could

6:08

do this so i was also inspired is like a c

6:10

n or he's ten so like the perfect

6:12

like higher let's let's do it when the school

6:14

year maybe we can now we can figure out

6:16

a out of the same exact

6:18

thing get him departed dm

6:20

the i volunteer for bar's gonna be

6:22

making the rounds is going how's

6:24

the how's school to

6:25

yeah keeping among other they'll

6:28

either like as the things like boards open in a dungeon

6:30

mastering all over the place and

6:33

you ready to my daughter was

6:35

just my youngest daughter who doesn't actually like to play

6:37

as she wants be the dungeon master she's like when

6:39

he began to me when when i'm going to my venture i

6:41

get of yeah i'm like yes i wanted

6:44

after day when we come over

6:45

for shared with do it

6:47

or in hampshire seriously are

6:49

chomping at the bed ah to have

6:51

more game ,

6:53

with their peers with

6:56

adults with everyone so you're totally

6:58

right

6:58

no it's just like it's just out there

7:00

they're just and i can i feel like i'm really good

7:03

at spotting see any kids like the way

7:05

that this mom was describing her suddenly cnd

7:08

he's a d and d kid i it i knew

7:10

it picking them out

7:11

but is then the way used

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to be right where you have you don't all the

7:15

stereotypes of the coke bottle glasses and things like

7:17

that it's not that anymore it's the people who

7:19

are it's the kids who have a

7:22

you know a imagination who has

7:24

a good of to suggest that storytelling

7:27

kind of muscle like i just and fang

7:30

guess that's think that the indicate

7:32

the bs and i also love

7:34

that when i asked that mother does it does he

7:36

play dungeons and dragons see didn't say saw

7:39

was loud or like no

7:42

y footnotes footnotes

7:45

there you and the new way my child

7:47

like when the when i don't like

7:49

ledger

7:50

he was like that's a weird he really wants to

7:52

play he just like carries his days around

7:55

and flip through both sometimes the thing

7:57

cause it so same

7:59

hi i'm on our kids

8:01

the promoter if if you're cool with us sending

8:03

years kids have some random adults

8:05

house

8:06

how

8:08

is this game room a

8:09

the man

8:11

there's and mind players on the high

8:13

so kids the way as iron like

8:15

really getting inspires i do think

8:18

i think it's my calling i think i had doesn't

8:20

kids how to believe i think i have to do it

8:22

the ground

8:24

look for my

8:26

young adventurers pub

8:28

starting soon

8:32

i might need you to because of might help

8:34

to have a podium

8:35

there

8:36

and cleric because again as

8:39

little other i'm not letting these kids

8:41

there without a cleric smart mark

8:44

that it's and are gonna

8:46

have standards yeah they'll

8:48

be thinking

8:48

all right well have

8:51

an amazing person as you said the

8:53

on our insect segment and then

8:55

we are going to talk to our a

8:58

hopeless is on the ceiling

9:17

that volume andrukonis a few

9:20

inside snacks loads

9:23

, be here if it's rather a

9:26

very sitting here to come and

9:29

just grill you and all the questions and sign

9:31

of our truthfully the person

9:34

who puts up

9:35

these dragon talk episodes for us ,

9:38

will the nineteen so well even

9:41

even answer yet swam

9:43

on we'll see what he had to say

9:46

the find yourself and your yes i

9:49

a sociopath manager it was inside

9:52

work on all sorts of aspects of the in the web

9:54

site including a plane is very podcasts

9:57

which is a fantastic i always

9:59

get was the be internal indicated he

10:01

cracked one for the upside i'm uploading i'm

10:04

very familiar with that and it's not a meeting

10:06

talk a little

10:09

isn't a particular intonation makes her friends

10:13

ah yes

10:14

no it is it is true and sometimes

10:16

greg

10:17

changes that up a little right so slightly

10:19

different the cops are only slightly different

10:21

units

10:22

because the studio audience is different

10:24

not a was a different may call every

10:26

week with horses or investments

10:28

know and will the nineteen again nineteen

10:30

don't they ever july

10:32

studio audience is always this

10:34

very stinky dogs

10:35

behind photo

10:39

, to do a

10:41

dog and talk is and talk dog

10:43

and all the while

10:45

puppy are from

10:46

studio audience does have a question for

10:48

you because you work very closely with

10:50

somebody that puppy also worked very

10:52

closely with a gentleman by the of

10:55

bark carol this is a safe

10:57

space for you and

10:58

i

11:03

think about my specify that makes i feel

11:05

a need for stick to sickness is there anything

11:08

you control your legs or to be was

11:10

anything that you would like

11:13

to talk about or vent about that me

11:15

oh but i

11:19

know , versus he loves

11:21

his here it's it's it's been so

11:24

nice to tenants dive in

11:26

the comedy

11:28

no not because back the he he's been kind

11:30

of

11:31

during one of the continent's a for a long time so

11:34

i can can lend a hand city that

11:36

later

11:37

crime quickly and

11:39

stuff that

11:41

only

11:41

i am personal pittsburgh i think

11:44

use on the show summers said

11:46

no

11:48

i say old i got a narrow you know

11:50

the one

11:51

i don't know what you're saying is true or not ah

11:54

say we appreciate trying

11:56

though

11:59

matt but andrew weird i actually don't

12:02

know the answer to this that where did you come

12:04

from before wizards because you haven't been here that

12:06

long

12:06

i started on the end

12:08

of last year's spent about it muslim

12:11

oh with feel simultaneously really

12:13

athletic event your results honestly i am

12:17

on my dad for dad

12:20

into wizards has were advertising agency

12:22

advertising seattle or to be small and com consisting

12:24

of the details and

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after that details was things freelancing

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and am senator figure out what senator wanted

12:31

what technologically so

12:34

my of intercept you lizards and

12:36

whether it's

12:37

and i are you a d indeed did you the

12:39

and easy for you

12:41

there are similar i

12:44

this illustrates child i played most the

12:46

with a third edition when it was you

12:49

enhance that's , try to the

12:51

a little he did also the back of my second discover

12:53

immigrants and

12:56

went back in

12:57

media when frequent economic group like

12:59

middle of this is go back to second for

13:01

some interesting ,

13:03

i think they to i think we want to play a landscape and

13:05

that it wasn't a third of his opponents of can

13:08

be didn't last long moved on to other

13:10

tabletop games in the those roads back then

13:13

i of just applying for a long

13:16

time until twenty twenty

13:18

i had not enough exchanged old

13:20

and new antibiotic and a good housekeeping

13:23

are store and then there was

13:25

into of the details on new content and spreads

13:27

seen around and how this is seems

13:30

a lot from what arab birds elements

13:32

in the lanes and lanes granted last time

13:34

i played it was in was subway my the

13:37

basement as a teacher into a very

13:39

different audience but audience can be i was really

13:41

cool the henry december fifth edition

13:44

new addition

13:46

just like seeing the than that

13:48

seen around it internet by plays

13:52

yeah my

13:54

first in the fifth edition was part of

13:56

the average with a weekends

13:59

the

13:59

immigration months ,

14:03

shudder to pursue lock forget know i go

14:05

in and near me back

14:06

that about them

14:08

there are very handy for some so

14:10

you have east and after those costs

14:13

more than was so certainly to for

14:15

group and ended up as for

14:17

my own and certainly been so

14:20

so you're a damn know

14:21

yeah to doing that for but

14:24

we're not so

14:27

, online is the first looking up stuff such

14:30

as been for the story but

14:32

and kind of had the moment of realization of like

14:34

was thinking about lake my

14:37

what technical and read his skills he

14:39

might miss lot of overlap the and

14:41

stuff i could probably do

14:43

pretty good at this of one instance but

14:47

i think that i mean star wars

14:49

movies ever really mastered the unanimous

14:51

but and

14:54

consume com have a regular

14:56

put up and start a campaign to scan how

14:59

these bickering ventures jokes

15:03

yeah

15:04

good bonding for

15:05

there you have your canada

15:08

without of a world a plane

15:09

the it's a very start forgotten realms

15:11

wrote the started with year he

15:14

was my second elder since who can

15:16

bring in a firearms were new methodically

15:19

sense yeah

15:21

we ran through that would ensure on ignorance

15:25

and it was i'm fine so were like let's get going

15:27

and at the candidates ongoing it from there

15:29

until working towards sorta kinda

15:31

cheated the jurors and an average

15:34

do i go to a it's a delicate that's over

15:38

cans my players from so the

15:41

barometric one

15:42

it's super hot

15:44

there

15:46

you're you as a new dungeon

15:48

master and years and you said or your players

15:51

are new equipped for from

15:53

other new dungeon masters what what

15:55

are some best practices you picked up as

15:57

you are starting your dm journey

15:59

i don't have a crush on

16:02

let's see i think

16:05

well the main things least

16:07

for me was just you and i get out amount

16:09

that and realize that it does not be perfectly know

16:11

how to are tougher every possibility that

16:13

really got it's really just more fun everyone

16:15

it's kind of go from the don't like

16:17

try force and ever that

16:20

scenario you concocted as

16:22

are looking for me initially but to

16:25

worry do it easier just to convince and

16:28

i think that sort of improv approaches

16:31

the go on of the and preach

16:33

and was well for waters and stuff for

16:36

you to can actually be comfortable with has just moved

16:39

in yeah

16:43

we're i think also like not

16:47

not precluding too much on the rules don't

16:50

, to memorize every single bit of information

16:52

about everything everything some

16:55

of the basics want to be three attempt

16:57

at but i'm always looking at the

17:00

reasons monsters that of a little

17:02

things that i

17:05

when my ah my bad memories of the stuff economic

17:07

players i

17:10

think like to be more humble and being something

17:13

that sometimes a person on this better than you don't

17:17

fall right yes it

17:19

wasn't of things there's nothing you have to worry about

17:21

in the campaign athlete and said copy

17:24

of the list as but manhattan for subsidies

17:26

from be taxer that

17:29

may the amazon

17:31

is a teenager was a pretty the

17:33

computer and a person's answer

17:36

my perception of what you should still thriving

17:38

with necessary

17:40

yeah i'm and it's freeing for serves

17:42

as a to get when you once you realize

17:44

the players and the dungeon masters are are

17:46

together and many people

17:49

who are working together and that people are just

17:52

very grateful to be playing in

17:54

serves their happy that they have a dungeon

17:56

master even if the dungeon master has to look

17:58

up a rule or ask for right

18:00

the years right i'm always apologetic

18:03

about like house or added that he prepares must have it's

18:05

decision like i didn't have excellency

18:07

set out in the sparks that i wanted to put

18:10

together whatever but there are almost

18:12

always like to no avail

18:14

begins happy to be every sense

18:17

i think to

18:19

make me for me i think i was trying

18:21

to like the best possible thing streak

18:25

sometimes so it is actually

18:27

really great for moving away from that because

18:30

you can never ,

18:32

for every contingency plans even in the game

18:34

you know the best laid plans to go around around

18:38

sometimes estimates are fun to the ass

18:40

doesn't gotta impress those moments as

18:42

less fun when you're dealing with web public

18:44

public since the

18:47

us when you know as his role with a demon

18:49

he doesn't have all of that i was with was

18:52

different approach for public it's out there

18:54

is some of that involved right above that i worked

18:56

with many cms is in the past that kind

18:58

of nervous systems interview or you can have to do

19:00

it or asians of the same thing going up thing order to

19:03

to troubleshoot problems and things like that so things yeah

19:05

might you know it's good the other perfectionist

19:07

treatment also is is good also does

19:09

is ahead while we're doing it we're making a better

19:11

we're improving each time

19:13

you gotta look out for the details but

19:15

you can't expect in catch all them

19:18

on the time being able

19:20

to fit fit britain fix things service

19:23

going slabs of soda thirty system with

19:25

of guess her well

19:28

seventeen to check them i think that sir

19:30

i think it's very hot

19:32

, on the states know rag other one

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know i is why i wanted to seventeen

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ads runs the gamut gamut

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you basing you couple

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of them some us going some be

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are , the office in

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two weeks and it'll emergency

19:52

person the always

19:54

been in seattle are you i made i i moved

19:56

here about six you're skeptical for us

19:59

there

19:59

that would you like on the disappointments

20:04

out the company on

20:05

eating any and know you better not

20:07

helping the heat today is

20:09

ah you know it's not as i mean when

20:12

i first moved here i thought it was funny that everybody would start

20:14

is the like always

20:16

so high when got into like the seventies because for

20:19

, it like wasn't really not until bro triple

20:21

digits coming from central valley but

20:23

yeah ha ha it didn't really factor in the

20:25

lack of air conditioning here vita does

20:28

does in some sense sense

20:30

mean not that aquino it is not

20:33

it was pretty much stayed lot com and interior

20:35

yeah it's still think it's becoming

20:37

more common reasons insistence pretty

20:39

alzheimer's

20:40

where it's a matter

20:43

that again

20:45

one say

20:46

that

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newspapers you triple digits on a regular

20:52

higher threshold as dense as to answer

20:54

to answer you psychic area of

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fire yeah although

20:58

if actually last year when got

21:01

crazy hot here i was actually in california evidence

21:03

beer that was cooler there's was yeah

21:06

right which was triple digits

21:08

here last year

21:09

the early you hear the like and gene oh

21:13

i was flowers well we're very

21:15

sorry to have you here and now be part of the web team

21:18

and as well thank you for and

21:20

on behalf of all dragon talk listeners thank

21:22

you for uploading yeah now

21:26

it's my pleasure to get out and asks let's

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see and faster

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roma one i swear to god wants

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liar andrew

21:34

hey uploading

21:37

this episode your ah some

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of your on our on

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our slums

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those are some opportunities that

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seems wednesday's

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know the only time it's a it's a noise when

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i'm like august about it usually comes in when i'm at

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lunch because august in lunch place where

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forty five minutes forty so

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permanently episode blame

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you so much for coming on been a part of

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his there are you online

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or anything you know you promote

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are we are here and you know of

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top your head how many books you're

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at now total or yeah

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disorder

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it's got a and on seventy four

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, follow me see

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i've got fourteen dina

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wars

25:06

the spear this is seventeen

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twenty with crimson shadow twenty

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three with the in a sail boats my first

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box twenty five with the to

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oh that's what sixty

25:26

seven

25:27

the hi claire was this

25:31

the five ancestry some it's marbles

25:33

we're keep going up your a month

25:36

yeah

25:38

i'm really of all

25:40

that manner but more than a book a year

25:43

one hundred or three or four

25:46

i was because i was writing i

25:48

was writing two or with puts a year

25:51

in the early late eighties nineties

25:53

and i was working with wonder

25:57

first i was working with anyone

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the d n a sailboats my first and

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i was working with some east on the

26:04

spear wealth as books at warner and

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that was are simultaneous with dreads box

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there's no i don't three bucks a year

26:13

migrant reason i will take the pace

26:15

as her foot my job because i was terrified

26:17

yeah that's a and always motor nader

26:20

no insurance three little kids and

26:23

you know that's when you go to get

26:25

work and i have

26:27

a ton of fun i was young and full of image

26:30

clearly you have a last movie

26:34

we were young men and strong

26:37

and that so in this these

26:39

seventy plus box that you've written

26:42

now do as

26:45

your process seems are you a different

26:47

wider than you are in the early days

26:49

like about how

26:51

well has changed in the lump i don't

26:54

have to be regimented anymore the kids are here

26:56

anymore i don't have kids ready for school

26:59

the us gets up around the table before

27:01

they and gets home from work as she was working

27:03

for a while there are nights i was take care of the

27:05

house though now it's

27:08

like the

27:10

chicago right now about your

27:13

house is some it's much easier

27:15

now in terms of making the schedule because

27:17

the i'm not i'm not depend i don't have any hours

27:19

i gotta get in in could give them whenever in want

27:22

the the books still stay with me

27:24

they'd they'd go to bed with me and they wake

27:26

up with me but as much as they didn't in

27:29

the early days it was like obsession the

27:32

that had any like this is a big

27:34

risk that we took as a family that

27:38

played although it so i never

27:40

would let the book called now it's like i

27:42

can put it a little than sleep when i'm not

27:44

working that makes sense but

27:47

i also think getting the mit

27:50

right the i think have changed a lot as a read i read

27:52

some of the early once and i just wouldn't do it

27:54

like anymore a lot of the just

27:56

this sentence structure and paragraph structure

27:59

and use the pronouns the way

28:01

i did and and he says she said

28:03

now that stuff i think you grow

28:06

as you right writing anything else moyes

28:08

do a better get at it right and

28:11

the mechanical parts writing or easier

28:13

now but the energy for

28:16

it is is harder to summer i

28:19

think that's my situation's

28:21

should just be honest having

28:24

said that once i start writing

28:26

energies there for that so

28:28

the

28:29

get i think my turbo the

28:31

character's gonna flow out here once you went to sit

28:33

down to start typing right yeah

28:36

that how it is like the you

28:39

they are you define a writer reader

28:41

the down and start writing

28:44

are you yeah although i say

28:46

right you're either plotter cancer

28:50

i'm a full pants although

28:52

it doesn't mean i wear them and i'm right by ah

28:56

ah yeah i i write i

28:58

do my outlined because you know to the outline they will

29:00

send you in advance chef right they

29:03

have to know you know what you're doing yeah and

29:05

then i throw the i'll either way and i just run

29:07

and the to sell me where the go i

29:10

read a book way people books you

29:13

know have gone a fella would summon next page

29:16

you don't know

29:17

not not always

29:19

at the end of the companions right the companion

29:22

says both the rebirth of carry bruner

29:24

and

29:25

the

29:27

daddy daddy bruna reaches

29:29

right about their rebirth

29:31

after they were put in the they

29:34

were put in a ruler don't buy my lead you

29:36

to come back and help trips after the time

29:38

trump's i mean the spell play after the so

29:41

and troubles was the was set on

29:44

one hundred years later they say with they were brought

29:47

back the the end of the book

29:49

the more in the book was guided chooses

29:51

not to go back he chooses to the once the

29:53

asshole at of a full life is going great

29:56

kids grandkids great think it's the hundred

29:58

and five when you get killed in a fight what etti

30:01

in our he decides i'm going on end

30:03

of the book when they're on top of calvin they

30:07

find drugs and not

30:09

a spoiler too bad the books like nine

30:11

years old a well on , arm

30:15

they find her islam and there's

30:18

a point where quinn of his ears go back

30:20

she gives this will growl that's

30:23

when i knew that scour was in

30:25

the book i didn't even know that was

30:27

coming and i realized that the and a grandson

30:30

remember when he show that and it really hop

30:33

and they get those i'm single i was

30:35

raised with of you doing oilsands

30:37

the no

30:41

one fast as i

30:43

yeah writers have writers have sign strange

30:46

people

30:47

our

30:48

i love it so bad

30:50

gonna pants or i figure really am

30:52

too i've been i've been writing more recently

30:54

and i've got you don't like you said i got

30:56

an outlay enough of the i think these the browser

30:59

i've spent from page to page i know

31:01

if you're haven't either and either and love am as

31:03

governor

31:04

yeah you know but you are

31:06

so you don't greg you probably don't

31:09

rub up a server you run with scott see

31:11

anson allowance thought was reading the

31:13

sir

31:15

scott was a friend of mine he was my

31:17

the early right isn't yes i went on to

31:19

other things didn't ever quest up with me

31:21

when i editing that line the

31:23

he passed away a few years ago sadly

31:26

way to be angry like early systems it

31:29

was just out blow but

31:32

but scott is right outlines

31:35

that are as long as my books like

31:38

seventy or eighty pages single spaced

31:40

unlike

31:42

no to

31:44

do in that thread my little basically

31:47

he would write the book and outlined form and

31:49

then just fleshed out a kid that

31:52

at the yeah because it takes me sometimes

31:55

i think i'm going in the direction than week later

31:57

it'll i'll realize not only

31:59

that time and breathes at the

32:01

buck and the people to everybody does

32:03

it differently and i've got

32:05

with the all a lot of other office about this

32:07

and we all have chart a little different some

32:10

people use scrivener some people don't

32:12

i don't

32:14

the

32:15

you know a but we all do it's just a little

32:17

bit differently whatever

32:19

works the end product

32:21

that matters to the reader and philly journey

32:24

that matters to the right

32:26

the hear about the james cameron writing scripts

32:28

were the treatments that are half scripts

32:31

and they're like eighty pages long and you're like of wyoming

32:33

just write the script instead of

32:35

though i try not hear about that but that

32:37

was scotland incident but yes i

32:39

was get was out of atlanta was or what

32:43

know when you're writing as

32:45

whenever we talked the writers i just really like to talk

32:47

about writing sorry spob

32:49

the year to your writer

32:50

i love hearing about

32:52

the people a service and all that stuff ah

32:55

your first

32:56

in my first book signing side by side

32:58

with bob last i think bob thought

33:00

i was there to like hand and water and like clean

33:02

and like

33:03

can you know that's not very

33:06

nice

33:08

there we are you kidding the people in line

33:11

she was horrible but i was telling

33:14

ya got ya literature

33:16

that's that's what you do

33:19

and hopefully one day i will get to

33:21

lace to pad on to

33:23

another

33:24

sorry because ah

33:27

have fun signing than you know what science

33:30

it was my favorite thing ever but

33:32

i mean i am a teenage sorcerers

33:34

with like a little pamphlet of a advanced

33:37

reading coffee sitting next to a new york times bestselling

33:39

author and

33:41

the only one of us as them is shelley no

33:45

west guy nineteen ninety

33:47

i think have you get to find next

33:49

the terry brooks the all

33:51

i sit down necessary whose line wraps

33:53

around the convention center seventy three times

33:56

love sit there was one guy going do

33:58

you agree with

34:01

nobody as me that thankfully the

34:03

years your might

34:04

the broke up when i get to do

34:07

and what i learned is use it

34:09

if the lines coming this area

34:11

and your these your the newbies they're all at

34:14

his side exaggerate the talk to

34:16

people while he's talking to those

34:18

yeah and i think that we did at the so

34:22

the internet higher food that

34:24

that was yeah be a way so that was it that way

34:26

i would yell i've every hour of as bookexpo

34:29

okay yeah was israel yeah

34:31

they were all their got a little tiny insults

34:34

and and fun and i had to like

34:36

a hand on like note away don't you have to take

34:38

my pamphlet zip up it

34:43

was adorable

34:44

the people said is this your wife

34:47

i know now

34:49

the out

34:51

we had diane was standing right there with

34:53

us probably try know keep me com

34:56

he mighty else downtown

34:58

yeah that was

34:59

he oh she's gonna be farmed

35:01

and i tell he and i can be there when with

35:04

us today i now that

35:06

seemed nice and you terribly stuck by

35:08

jealous

35:08

diane

35:10

the legit

35:11

i love diane to hello

35:13

my question was about

35:15

that we my plan i the money it's

35:16

oh no no i do remember okay as a writer

35:19

when you're writing or you do just get

35:21

dressed out then go

35:23

back and edit or do you and as you i know

35:26

you added as you right

35:28

about are you know seventy percent into the

35:30

book and go back and i start editing from the

35:32

beginning out as i can do a whole of

35:35

editing i can't do whole chapter writing in

35:37

a day so in the morning odds with of editing

35:39

and i'll for was but the both then

35:42

eventually it's like it's like i'm editing here

35:45

i'm writing here and goes like this and

35:47

it catches up at the that

35:49

was kind of filled into details i hit

35:52

the box the heat

35:55

alive and said that are lots of now

35:57

i've added as appreciate my there's

35:59

a at the same time pass

36:02

i hate everything books everything hit rereading

36:04

my pots and now because the publishers

36:07

about cut back their staff

36:10

like a send you the book like six times

36:13

okay this your first at it and

36:16

okay here's a copy of it and this what

36:18

we're sending a principal look at all really to

36:20

the had these things here sousa sensitivity

36:23

read music as nice as like

36:25

to send them send under us

36:28

no i read the thing again

36:29

i wrote this book like six months ago i don't

36:32

remember it i don't want to i'm

36:34

funny

36:37

doesn't the others were with have a with arvo to actually

36:39

we agree had several cop and i couldn't help go

36:41

back and tinker eat i'm a guy we

36:43

could that is what i really we do that different and

36:45

need to take more and then he made me digger more

36:49

but that's yeah that i didn't realize

36:51

that was new i thought that was the process all

36:53

on

36:54

no i used to be used to be very

36:56

different i mean when i first started this

36:58

before the internet was rather was eighty eighty

37:01

eight eighty seven was my first that

37:04

the not i was

37:06

a for mary kerchief and then eric see person

37:08

for fourteen hours we were going through

37:10

the manuscript ah no

37:13

was awesome they taught me so much

37:16

that i all mary eric so

37:18

much when just learning

37:20

how to make it the first part and the

37:22

second part sings in woman and

37:24

and just just the mechanics of right

37:27

that was so instruct the right there was more

37:29

hands on experience ever and i loved

37:32

even i did get off the phone swearing

37:35

at them all way i was fun but

37:38

then i'd say you know their run as by as hate even

37:41

more com by there

37:44

we go through that nest alas i see if

37:46

it's i was on the shelf

37:49

how do i know the difference is another kind of right of course

37:52

the how do you know the difference of when an editor is

37:54

right and when instincts

37:58

are tests were after you talk

38:00

wednesday and are always the swear after

38:02

i thought of as a minor it's not right

38:04

or wrong second part of that was is nothing to

38:07

do with the first black

38:08

i don't know that the other doesn't always right

38:10

now fight like hell when i think they're wrong of

38:14

the time as the other they're saying something

38:16

i pay really close attention because they're

38:18

reading it like a reader i'm reading it like someone

38:21

who's yeah the reading

38:23

a like someone looking at one my kids i'm looking

38:25

at one of my kids and

38:27

you'll see the flaws well see

38:29

them when they're not they're a works both

38:31

ways

38:34

so they're they're usually right

38:37

or fair not right there usually

38:39

right in their discomfort you just

38:41

have him for their finger on why they are uncomfortable

38:44

with a certain

38:47

sometimes is just wrong

38:49

i'm not sure you

38:52

do against the wrong with names and

38:54

i make them pay for the

38:56

wrong as an limiting and sugar name

38:59

yeah i do both

39:02

i do the hassling gem they want to be if

39:04

there was the third book and the people with

39:06

tsr their infinite wisdom mary

39:08

ah so that we think people are tired

39:10

of characters so let's wrap it up and maple

39:12

or something different number

39:16

nine , think those

39:19

entering yes and so

39:21

i had to do the end see ending where

39:23

the dwarves retook misra hall

39:25

which was which was to do is the fourth both another

39:27

was another me another book right and

39:30

so i did it in the epilogue

39:32

and i had come up with work dwarf

39:35

the lead the charge and take no for a halt so

39:37

i came up with best wharf dame ever dag

39:39

now that

39:40

right now but the great

39:42

the affair

39:43

but apparently some people with yes i took

39:46

exception to that because if i was making fun

39:48

of their game and not taking it seriously that

39:50

was except for the dwarves that they're all the

39:52

members

39:55

and so i after

39:59

after i'm

39:59

you

40:02

weeks after the book came out there

40:04

was really short time for back

40:06

and i mean i finished the crystal shine nuts over

40:08

i started it and july it's a finished

40:10

in october it on the shelf said the

40:13

were data fast that was in

40:15

the early days to us are published it was

40:17

like kids a damn thing done get it

40:19

out there those

40:21

were the book came out i get a call from error and

40:23

is like bob yeah greg abbott

40:27

gosh darn it go ,

40:30

habit and i'm like what is your

40:32

problem do or say

40:34

that i since this was the never

40:36

know with spot and people and battery about

40:38

it in the next book you will make him general zegna

40:43

people and he no and

40:45

will be dagger so when

40:47

since i had to do that so i made

40:49

a dagger menopause eric left i drove

40:51

them into the unitarian church or wherever ah

40:55

oliver see is is

40:57

is a minute he's is minister in the church was perfectly

41:00

is the kind of human being on the planet i love

41:02

the meant that

41:04

the

41:05

when he was gone the painless

41:08

actually the gun good cause

41:11

i went back to back nap after he lost his first

41:14

before that i got him good because then i say

41:16

interrupted by drugs bucks to the clerics

41:18

by finished the darker than

41:21

, wine take breaks declared offended a

41:23

couple dwarfs so i came across the front

41:25

the brothers boulder shop i came up with eyes

41:27

m t i take yeah

41:31

the i that i'm a script

41:33

them and i waited by the phone i can almost countdown

41:35

on the was gonna ring phone rings

41:37

at pick it up and it's eric and he says tackle

41:40

the cucumber have

41:43

considered as a tomato

41:45

will massage and another guidance and because you

41:47

have because dwarf need pickle

41:49

the talking about this is your door

41:51

for the forces them pickle ball to solicit

41:53

so with take all like the weapon

41:58

or number

42:00

yeah i agree i'm here in the green

42:02

beer is pickle is a federal

42:06

any pets and people

42:08

and he's really big in places

42:11

are my that remember more

42:13

and just like the or the new book coming

42:15

out

42:17

what you say about glaciers edge before it comes

42:19

out with everybody should buy it? yeah

42:23

i , blurb your own

42:25

book, bob, i used

42:38

to work for curtis and i gave me terrible reviews

42:40

because we got a good, a good review

42:42

from dead

42:44

that

42:47

was the old joke at the of spring who's

42:53

a big guy and

42:58

chicken

43:00

mailboxes and sponges street

43:02

sign i'm like what the hell's the matter with

43:04

you i thought this will deal with is gone

43:06

either that or i'm avid terry's last

43:09

another and is it and

43:11

finally i'm like that you shouldn't take

43:13

produces take grain of salt we'll get bad relegated

43:15

me really good the whole spiel antares allen

43:17

because nets on where get the bad review metals

43:21

curtis and will the i just started laughing

43:23

at them he , fantasy

43:27

fantasy got a bad reviews purpose didn't you

43:29

may have a serious some us

43:32

good advice

43:33

nowadays any right now it's

43:36

, now but anyway

43:39

well this is the second book

43:41

glacier that of the psychedelic in this in his new trilogy

43:44

yes i'm i'm excited about

43:46

i loved it i had such a blast reading

43:48

this one because i left them in are really

43:51

place at the first one the

43:54

that places can mean a lot more than

43:56

they to mean and because i'm getting old and mean

43:58

our house

43:59

bad

44:02

news for the characters well so many people

44:04

to matter be put to serve as came back

44:06

so

44:07

we'll take care of that ah ah

44:09

all and anyway his

44:12

second book the always worry about the second book

44:14

and a trilogy because they tend to be the slovaks

44:18

though this spot the

44:20

has it's moments but really

44:23

i'm white the second

44:26

half of the book on it is rock

44:28

and roll it is just this

44:30

probably the most complex

44:33

and the choreographed

44:36

most diverse li choreographed battle

44:38

scene i've ever done and i had a blast

44:40

with it

44:41

wow that's a lot

44:42

i've got all different types of magic

44:45

and monsters fighting at it is

44:47

such a blast we

44:49

had been became like that

44:52

i'd rather than and perfectly

44:54

this like that yeah i was

44:56

at it really does

44:58

this book as a rock and roll

45:01

the ultimate

45:02

are you listening to a lot of rock and roll damn right

45:04

leg up on baby ah

45:06

what did you think as big as i was no more

45:08

than i would mack movie stuff yeah

45:10

well i'm pulling for this what

45:14

, the bigger the new identity movie speaking

45:16

of led zeppelin being the

45:18

soundtrack analyzed oh

45:21

i really have a because i have a was

45:23

the because say hi sally

45:25

day

45:28

the

45:32

the one o'clock

45:33

the are now one of

45:35

the earth is not a

45:37

deal with other will you don't have

45:38

the tower it now but i

45:41

wanna go him

45:42

as i am so

45:44

, now now to

45:47

know about the birds about when what with

45:50

ah never been

45:54

though there the catamaran

45:56

take pine trees find

45:58

two couples were from

46:00

you and fags you embark and

46:02

two couples frenzy us a man

46:05

i'm telling listen do this do

46:08

this i the more speaker

46:10

read the catamaran and

46:12

you can rent the current

46:14

which use your husband and wife cooking

46:16

captain

46:17

who like below that

46:19

and all you do is go island to island

46:21

in the tv ads the

46:23

and like every island

46:25

has to bills

46:27

the restaurant bar

46:29

hm okay more up and go there

46:31

and like

46:32

after november first after hurricane

46:34

says we went before november first months

46:37

and get caught tropical storm rafale

46:39

you don't to do that trust me assassin

46:41

snapped by they're itself

46:44

but it

46:46

is the most route all we get all day was

46:48

have them worse in the jimmy buffett blaring

46:51

our en masse the

46:53

speakers the masts

46:56

colorado and okay what's got

46:58

and we were kept in the url both because

47:01

were insane but yeah

47:05

i , for a second their van morrison and jimmy buffett

47:07

where the or the husbands of the couple couple

47:11

fact that there are afraid of the that'd

47:13

be amazing critical let's

47:16

do it shelley all right okay as get air and and

47:18

burton i'm telling you right now i'm telling

47:21

it maybe he would you would

47:24

it'll be the best mama best vacations you

47:26

ever have any bike and i mean is it

47:28

sounds expensive because you gonna rent the both by

47:30

the david splitting it's free weights and like three

47:32

hotels and the needed

47:34

to go back to go that a

47:36

toll on the golden dragon stay

47:40

something has done for a villager the forgotten

47:42

realms i know so and i mean you got

47:45

of the places like this one island nana

47:47

gathered or twelve miles north of the baby

47:49

v the ice the highest point on the silence

47:51

big island is like twenty you

47:55

could sell right a seat on what you don't then

47:57

you're in trouble that you going to the middle

48:00

my magnum fifth

48:03

in cook how rec beach for one of the a

48:05

ship of cows was going any guess offshore

48:08

in the cows made it shore another spiraled

48:10

out all the beach it's very

48:13

there are you sit down and the beach nice

48:15

way of the first person ever since there and you're expecting

48:18

a pirate ship the around the fan entire

48:21

time

48:21

the way as actually sounds exactly

48:23

like the setting for the new dmd starter

48:25

set with

48:26

the american idol is hop storm

48:28

rak i'll you know a case and

48:30

i already got hired for my

48:32

, trip to devices tested lox

48:35

ah

48:37

greg and will start by renting

48:40

kayaks on okay bees and see

48:42

if we can work up to

48:44

anyway i get rid of saddam was wiretapped

48:50

a captain will definitely will hire

48:51

the captain right greg i'm innocence all

48:53

fantasy anyway where we just with rhubarb

48:55

to do it

48:56

fab together captains

48:59

i am ago very those there's another

49:01

bob million

49:03

eco don't know

49:05

okay okay the in the and

49:07

a motoring so i'm a muslim and

49:09

have one o'clock in on the kids who led zeppelin

49:12

beady eyes

49:13

no you can't know you gotta

49:15

the jimmy buffett van morrison

49:17

you know that kinda stuff yeah

49:20

rock i got

49:21

the us i got a great player

49:22

for ah my

49:24

dad made it was a this is it and gotta be your

49:27

job is the the playlist manager

49:29

yes i'll manage to

49:31

okay i get you past

49:33

the you're going to british birds

49:37

how many books we have the right side

49:40

i cannot sixty six guess

49:42

and you it was a trip to disney

49:45

by far really and

49:47

i were to happen

49:49

yeah

49:52

it's not that extent

49:56

it really the

49:59

you guys the and while time

50:01

that's right i would

50:04

the mean it , travel within

50:06

their cell phone right now

50:08

it's flames and cove

50:11

ids and who else knows whether

50:13

pandemic of going to be coming soon or that's why

50:15

i'm excited to be back on the road a or

50:17

yeah

50:18

let's talk about this so you are going back

50:21

on tour

50:22

i'm only gentile

50:23

another

50:25

senators are realizing

50:26

then they're like seven years eighty

50:28

miles

50:30

i can't believe it's done that long i

50:33

was posted a guest of honor in

50:35

twenty twenty oh and they're both

50:37

shutdown i am i'm

50:39

and some guess i'm an author guest of honor

50:41

jenkins a wonderful amazing

50:44

for the and i get the system or friends margaret

50:46

traced will be there the

50:49

on putting larry's elmore out there and

50:52

i'm young i'm a bed and so long

50:54

for the be interesting the and then i've got

50:56

some book signings in new england and

50:59

i'm going out to

51:01

emerald city

51:03

hama finance seattle

51:05

the should be great love desecrate

51:07

mention really do a nice job now

51:10

and then now the

51:12

alien

51:13

the amber

51:15

when dot dress themselves up in l

51:17

a so produces an insult like i'm serious

51:19

galaxy i live in i

51:22

think that but probably just a southern accent

51:25

it back on the road

51:26

going to be amazing are you going

51:28

up see your book tours when you

51:31

when add stuff in seattle

51:33

and the surrounding areas that was some

51:35

my favorite time and not

51:37

because tried to insert myself into your

51:39

book citing as ,

51:41

signed my pamphlets bus

51:44

is as i just i know we've talked

51:46

about this before but you

51:49

are

51:50

the best author that i've ever seen

51:53

in and interacting with fans

51:55

you will you will taco

51:57

the own of adventure the gather

51:59

you are you'd like

52:02

everybody sells specify when they come up

52:04

to you and you can tell it's these are people

52:06

who are extremely passionate about your

52:08

work and are so excited to meet you and

52:11

it just pays off i've have been

52:14

excited about meeting authors that i love

52:16

and i have been extremely disappointed

52:18

by how they basically just like

52:20

stamps my book in and then the handler

52:23

pushes me out of the way i

52:26

didn't even didn't know you can

52:29

the have i'm i'm away on a slowdown

52:31

you know me better than that

52:32

memory and i also really

52:34

love that your your

52:37

audience has sands of all ages

52:39

and like to see like the teenagers

52:41

usually teenage boys discovering

52:44

work and how excited they are also to

52:46

me

52:46

yeah that's true anymore though mean

52:49

so through them and they'll two teenage boys

52:51

by this true that's the beauty of what's going

52:53

on the industry right

52:54

i mean my book some it's look like fleetwood

52:57

mac concerts

52:58

you have a you have a grandfather with his

53:00

son and his granddaughter in there are reading the book

53:02

it's it's amazing yes therefore

53:05

there's you know you know why you know where i first

53:07

saw how authors should

53:09

the with sands their own

53:11

family calling and fans badly are

53:14

calling him reactors an unwitting

53:16

and take now hundred meters was

53:20

my first junk on and mary made me sit

53:22

behind margaret tracy

53:24

when they were doing a slanted database

53:27

fair sent us the

53:29

dragon most people the princess

53:33

and

53:34

they're not between

53:37

i feel like being allowed into other

53:39

people's lives at the extent you hours

53:41

and author when they give passionate about your as

53:43

privilege i

53:46

think a very serious and i also enjoy

53:48

meeting

53:50

yeah

53:50

funny because unlike the sized person

53:52

you've ever met not you would know that now

53:55

out freely admit you wouldn't think that us

53:58

that was me i was i wasn't

53:59

college i was like i was a sophomore in college

54:02

when when down with the school i said you

54:04

know on deathbed my whole life

54:07

has gone flashed before me and i'm not even and

54:10

that shirts how

54:13

i was the invisible kids the corner and i

54:15

school

54:18

until

54:19

you are able to i can get some of that

54:21

out there you think getting to create a work force myself

54:24

to get past it because i was missing

54:26

lights

54:28

wasn't dating and i wasn't needing

54:30

keep i wasn't

54:33

the know

54:34

there was they had to force myself

54:37

past

54:38

yeah that's i just had a conversation

54:41

on sunday with a neighbor who's she's

54:44

very a very very

54:46

daughter like to the point where

54:49

rangers are yeah

54:51

something

54:52

wrong with no she's just extremely shy

54:55

but , friend was saying the same thing

54:57

like at some place you released in college said

54:59

she was missing out on

55:02

her life and it's life and constant

55:04

battle in her head where she had to like force herself

55:07

to

55:08

interact with people and to make friends and

55:10

assists i i've heard that a lot

55:12

from say people you don't and i think people

55:15

always realize what that internal

55:17

struggle is like for them all

55:19

times yeah the room and

55:21

once you get the you wonder how was over there

55:24

enough

55:25

i wonder if it is i mean this kind

55:28

of as of as sequitur away

55:30

from this by want to how much of it as do with a neuro divergence

55:32

and how much we it now

55:35

lights i don't think ways a big guns

55:37

on the sand it yet want a lot and

55:39

other than we used to pm was glad

55:41

that we're taught little oh they're just different or the gone

55:43

through a phase or they're doing the things they were

55:46

in some ways dealing in our symptoms

55:48

of a d h d or deal made as many

55:50

press and all he sounds we didn't have words or

55:52

language to really understand and i wonder if is

55:55

in a while some amenities were labeled as stupid

55:57

yeah right when they were decidedly labeled

55:59

rob all i get troublemakers the

56:02

government's israel and clan

56:03

that would mean you have different

56:06

yeah yeah

56:08

it is amazing when you look back

56:11

and you c the

56:13

i like watching seventies tv shows

56:15

he can i go

56:19

yeah he get away with

56:22

the front yeah it's really not he went with

56:24

john belushi at the end of that movie after

56:26

which is it really hello

56:31

yeah yes wow we know though

56:33

that actually playing the indies can

56:35

help with with some of that the

56:38

social anxiety and overcoming

56:41

sinus and it helps to

56:43

have to play a character

56:45

the brand from your cells and well

56:47

that's the other thing right you're putting on a mass

56:49

yes and when you put the mass not

56:52

you're not worried about your own self confidence

56:54

anymore as much because you're putting on a

56:56

mass of your characters some stupid start

56:59

using declared the cleric that

57:01

then you realize that maybe in a stupid a

57:04

on maybe on maybe things you say aren't as

57:06

bad as think they are

57:08

for me it was simply yeah

57:10

no i i i i met some people

57:13

even in high school the what your there were with the

57:15

girls i wanted to date a woman i want to date

57:17

get to know people are really hear

57:19

about kinda like a line that

57:22

a really interesting people i am aghast

57:25

in my life was just

57:26

then i became a bounce that helped a lot i

57:31

wonder and me because you into my you're like hey just how to turn

57:33

it on you know like know like had to go

57:35

there and do it is similar to what friend or

57:37

your neighbor was anxious to make i wonder how much of

57:39

that is actually

57:41

the opening

57:42

how much of that is the mask becoming on

57:44

like even when you we became the either like or

57:46

it when at table and people are readers

57:49

are coming up to me i have to be the certain

57:51

way

57:52

cut out the media wasn't that for me it

57:54

was never really there was was a i start

57:56

college and i thought

57:57

wow she's really pretty and

58:00

then i heard there and them but she's smart

58:04

the my i want to meet her and

58:06

so i said pm it to take the shot and

58:09

i took a of paper and wrote

58:11

i wrote a little note tour and i simply dinner

58:13

and or mailbox

58:16

and she responded

58:17

positively and endlessly wow

58:21

the number

58:22

them

58:24

you know

58:25

the it it just that's a

58:27

gross you gotta go through to get out of it but

58:30

you know think know

58:32

divergence is a big proud of it i think it's more

58:34

pronounced now because people spend a lot

58:36

more time like

58:38

the pursue so i think you can

58:40

hide a lot more now the use the

58:43

you can really hide when i was

58:46

you get home from school he mostly get the hell i'll be home

58:48

for supper

58:49

right on the street lights to months we used to take

58:51

our bb guns and shoot straight life so

58:54

, can just stay out late i am a

58:56

little crowded crowded it'd be like that

58:59

is one of the going yet know if neither do punk

59:01

okay just ask for any kind

59:03

of your curfew baba south

59:07

wow i didn't come on it's

59:09

oh it's broke that on harmful amp yeah

59:12

i'm minutes worth of these times

59:14

this damn squirrels and their bb guns

59:17

the

59:18

put

59:20

them in your next novels of bb until

59:23

and

59:23

the world for , name's

59:26

doug melvin it's iraqis the iraqis garden a guardian

59:28

of the galaxy of into the be present

59:30

cs that why

59:32

am i allowed to drink flying on on the

59:34

hell yeah because it's criminal

59:38

the mood read but you as their the whole

59:40

time since

59:40

the die than yeah

59:43

wow that's some

59:44

here and as resistance the three reservations

59:47

whether you why doesn't survive shelley

59:49

does it say about

59:51

a chance

59:52

center and the

59:54

other a suffer

59:55

it was bourbon it would have been long gonna

59:57

be dancing a better conversation

59:59

i never really an urban for

1:00:04

us all bourbon what i

1:00:06

the about i mean even just as talking about

1:00:08

this of unearned or anything

1:00:10

like that but that like leveled introspection that

1:00:12

i know that you are capable and from our

1:00:14

conversations year like it's all in your

1:00:16

box i that like you know

1:00:18

the perspective of dresden that character like we've just

1:00:20

gotten so much more how

1:00:22

he grown and changed and

1:00:25

his ideas have ,

1:00:27

you think the into some kind of resolution and then likes

1:00:30

you know the ships again and hasta

1:00:32

just based on that right on how well as

1:00:34

life is life i mean i'm very

1:00:36

different than i was twenty years ago

1:00:38

than i was forty years ago then i was if

1:00:40

the if i'm very different person

1:00:43

when i started writing i twenty nine

1:00:45

years old

1:00:46

when i wrote my first book

1:00:49

i got my first the public servant my first book i was two

1:00:51

years

1:00:53

twenty one years or almost it's

1:00:58

yeah that that's weiss and that's

1:01:00

why i think people say outside of the characters

1:01:03

know because they changed their all changing

1:01:06

i love it

1:01:07

yeah and you that would dress and i

1:01:09

i just talking with victor between who

1:01:11

is the voice of drifts on audible then

1:01:14

he's doing is recording the

1:01:16

dow dress right now

1:01:19

any says it's so different reading all

1:01:21

of the essays to back as the dog

1:01:23

dresses are all the from homelands

1:01:26

true

1:01:27

next year spock

1:01:28

in way of drought i wrote the essays

1:01:30

early to get him in there

1:01:32

on

1:01:33

he's reading them in the got this like a

1:01:36

completely different journey than reading and in

1:01:38

the books and he's really enjoying it

1:01:40

and that's what i found when i was so putting

1:01:43

together a finding the old

1:01:46

whatever format the files were in the trying

1:01:48

to them all massive right format so we

1:01:50

can get a typesetting stuff

1:01:52

harper

1:01:53

and i i was reading through the essays and i'm like

1:01:57

the journey system

1:01:59

that me they could you wrote

1:02:01

those without thinking well one

1:02:03

day the lobby or maybe you don't think

1:02:05

about them

1:02:06

the in compiled into

1:02:07

the guy about the only reason i

1:02:09

wrote those

1:02:11

it's because after i had done to the ice

1:02:13

when bill trilogy invaded and have them the

1:02:15

original books

1:02:17

i added those the ice will build showed

1:02:19

you later when it became i think some

1:02:21

science fiction book club the deal

1:02:24

they have any omnibus version

1:02:27

and

1:02:28

what happened was when they said let's

1:02:30

go back and do that where he came from

1:02:33

those are you just read them

1:02:35

chronicles ma'am

1:02:37

rodgers last

1:02:39

well right allows me

1:02:41

right very amber classic

1:02:44

science fiction series because and it's

1:02:46

it's the the last he does

1:02:48

the first person i've ever read

1:02:50

my life both

1:02:52

the whole books from first person to be fantastic

1:02:55

and that's a really hard to pull off then

1:02:58

i thought i want to read these books first person

1:03:01

there's no going back brace i'm gonna write

1:03:03

them first

1:03:04

and then i as i started into homeland

1:03:07

i i realized

1:03:08

that our battles

1:03:10

the like battle scenes with a lot of moving

1:03:12

parts in different places you can't do that

1:03:14

first person i'm doing a first person

1:03:17

truth be describing happening to reach

1:03:19

some brother over there right because he's

1:03:21

got a guy in the space

1:03:24

so i compromised the messages

1:03:26

to s it's it's beginnings part of

1:03:28

section of the book in said that's

1:03:31

where they came from but know if i'd known

1:03:33

as when i wrote the crystal shout i thought

1:03:36

okay i did it i got published

1:03:39

number

1:03:41

now handle foreign car i

1:03:43

was working in sinus yeah right on

1:03:45

this is alice is it i was happy for the block

1:03:47

addresses the

1:03:50

matchbox your

1:03:52

for

1:03:52

the down payment of years split share

1:03:55

of the catamaran in nineteen

1:03:57

seventy nine

1:04:00

now i didn't nineteen

1:04:04

eighty

1:04:05

i just thing in nineteen seventy nine prices

1:04:07

i'm sorry no i didn't just

1:04:09

bb i slapstick two thousand

1:04:12

the their pay well i can

1:04:14

wait for dowager is collecting now interesting

1:04:16

journey right seeing first

1:04:19

person owes

1:04:21

his experiences where it's all gone

1:04:23

through and how it is tammy are you doing a chronologically

1:04:25

are you doing it by he did

1:04:28

i bought a good at the ballot boxes

1:04:30

of homeland all the way through next year's

1:04:32

way of the drought of three as so interesting

1:04:35

to see that can be reading here

1:04:37

to i'm in your novels or author person's

1:04:39

all very much more like epic fantasy that way

1:04:41

but like having this characters perspective

1:04:43

on a journal entries

1:04:46

in one volume it's it's

1:04:48

it's it's it's a journal it added

1:04:50

a very high quality book

1:04:52

it doing it like a german

1:04:54

that a my favorite part of it is the

1:04:56

fall

1:04:58

who did the forward

1:04:59

the tears to my eyes so ah

1:05:02

i like us anymore cause we ever were revealed

1:05:04

it yeah

1:05:05

miracle on your lunch say i mean

1:05:07

the who wrote it isn't

1:05:08

however winter yeah yeah but

1:05:10

they haven't they haven't for the for without

1:05:13

the without want them to let me put the forward out there

1:05:15

on it's own home like on

1:05:17

the web and stuff just because it's that it's

1:05:19

that it is

1:05:22

the type of thing you hear is an author said

1:05:24

they unite a kid okay

1:05:26

okay

1:05:28

of on the back there now that's really

1:05:31

see and i'd love him tatiana

1:05:33

back that's better battery

1:05:37

i love that you're the narrator

1:05:39

is embodying dress and

1:05:41

like not just reading the words on the page

1:05:44

but as you like really feeling that journey

1:05:46

a victim of my your life that's amazing

1:05:49

victor and i like on the pitch

1:05:51

it's amazing how we like he he

1:05:54

when threats in one of the but streets but

1:05:56

the month thing any kind of transcended is for

1:05:59

you got in touch

1:05:59

mean it's like

1:06:01

to come up with this have any know

1:06:03

was like because he he had read

1:06:06

studies and thanks similar oh

1:06:08

wow and a we've hit victor and i had

1:06:11

the best conversations is such

1:06:13

an incredible got

1:06:16

yeah what degree or anybody any

1:06:18

his yards as the voice of dread with that

1:06:20

it's the best thing ever saw

1:06:22

only it boys to shreds now

1:06:24

when you're writing threats the

1:06:26

you hear his sister's voice in your head when you're

1:06:28

no

1:06:31

the regular never of the next

1:06:33

i know it

1:06:35

that however is random

1:06:37

i do here

1:06:38

you're my if i see the is our voices

1:06:40

yes he

1:06:42

permanently permanently soy but

1:06:44

as as it's kansas

1:06:45

this the i just finished the make a demon

1:06:47

were both in a duty more serious inspired

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to see diane ah and

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thanks for reading

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more ipa thank you so much as

1:18:43

always thanks for having me as always

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the diane for a brief second

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1:18:50

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we're sailing around or

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a game because he's seems like he's

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getting very obsessed with dungeons and now

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into and talking about it and he and talking

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about how he was on a podcast about

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1:22:03

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are on social media following

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if you have some time

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that she has and her tower

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to send you there

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appreciate it so i am i'm

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one thought if you are interested

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me and my scribes time to acquire

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that powerful magic to send you back but

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he would delay your departure

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i mean that seems almost harder

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than

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magic's are in order to

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we how long how long would it delay

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see you

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see her kind of mine work faster

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but you know not as

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robot of delays or i can i try to go

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back and then she said it would take

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would take days for us to

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create such a school

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1:26:16

your sibling is

1:26:18

after tomorrow

1:26:20

when i find him

1:26:22

his ass ah

1:26:28

to desecrate last valid but she doesn't factor

1:26:30

emit factor chuckle to slake

1:26:32

when we were kittens i was a

1:26:34

sister once i understand

1:26:38

you and so in of

1:26:41

our siblings i am ready

1:26:43

to perform this ritual now

1:26:45

you wouldn't come with

1:26:48

unfortunately my duties as

1:26:50

the open noida thirty prevent me from

1:26:53

traveling to the ethereal blame on quite a dude

1:26:56

i will as you know in a split

1:26:58

second i was tempted

1:27:00

let me try to maintain

1:27:03

a noble so your brushed

1:27:06

how

1:27:08

thank you if

1:27:10

i make my way back to water deep snow

1:27:12

flakes could have lunch or something

1:27:14

i'd like that if

1:27:17

nothing else to get your on

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