This conversation was held via Skype between Kathleen's home in Toronto, Canada and mine in Columbia, South Carolina in the US. We had a wide ranging conversation about research, the role of the researcher, the inclusion of youth as co-researchers in projects and the Theatre of the Real. Much of this conversation was based on her book, "Why Theatre Matters: Urban Youth Engagement, and a Pedagogy of the Real." It is an excellent read and one that will certainly challenge and excite practitioners.