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Drink Champs. Trink Up Mother.

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Would it could be hoping he wouldn't soon be. This is your boy

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in Oh what up is dj e

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something right

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now when you look up the word reinvention,

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when you look up the word you know, staying

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relevant, staying in these people games, staying working

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with the top ten people. This man

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has had like two or three careers, maybe

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four. I feel like he maybe even

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have a porn star career. I'm

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not sure, but the man has been consect

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If you listen to the radio right now, you don't

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hear that hashtag that

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what's it called? If

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you don't hear that I

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don't think you're right gonna get top to top ten.

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You need that right now. I've

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seen have a run. I've seen Timberland

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have a run. I've seen a lot of people have from

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Swiss Beach. This man run right

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here is unmarketable. Bro. It's so

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beautiful and he's a great person.

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You know, he's a little bit of controversy, but he's a great

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person. And his work

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speak for itself. He's

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done reality shows to whatever

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whatever, to music for itself, and

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then his big movies that being that

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big producer. I heard in fact Joe

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say this puff Daddy does

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DJ Kale and then this young bird. Now.

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Now, a lot of people don't know because

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you fly flashy, you know what I'm saying.

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You know, you know that type of dude. But

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you from the rough streets of Chicago.

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I heard you even burnt down the house at some point.

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Yea, bro,

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I know what I'm talking about. There was an out building.

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Ain't gonna so

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yeah, I'm from the South side of Chicago. Sounds

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like I

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lived in my whole life. My dad still litter

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man, ship Man, Chicago,

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different man. A lot of people don't know. They probably think like

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when I first came out as as young Berg the

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rapper, like, Oh, he's a cute kid, let's

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do this. But I was really hanging around like killers

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and people, you know what I'm saying, Like before, I

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like as a child like thirteen four

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a team moving around with the biggest dudes in the

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city, shout out to all them and most of them are

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dead and some are grown. So you

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know, yeah, because that's that's what's what's crazy about

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it. It It is like you, for lack of a better term,

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um, who's using this world yesterday?

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You make sexy music. You make music

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that make bitches, excuse me, make females

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wanna you know, dance and and party.

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But how how could you do that?

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Like I was saying that to Nikki Jam the other day,

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Like Nikki Jam has a real rough life,

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and I told him, I said, you should be making music like

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DMX. Why are you making music

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that's that's sexy and like she's like that, and

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so I kind of want to ask you the same thing,

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like you could have made music that reflect

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the South side of Chicago and you know like

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that, Oh no, no no, no, I'll see that that way. When

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I was when I got my deal with d m X when

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I was you right, I had like three

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different, four different lives in this game. I started

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off in my name was Iceberg and

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I was the first artist sign a Bloodline Records

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to d m X, and yeah,

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like I used to fucking I killed

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so many people in my wraps, like I was like, I

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was like, I'm discussing, like I had more

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so transition into making the more

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sexy and koind of music. But when I was a rapper, rapper,

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like, man, I promise you, like I

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was just straight street, all guns and

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everything in Kanye West books, No

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I d they did my demo and

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yeah, like I never forget this,

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Like, man, I went to um how I met

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d m X, these guys that

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no he was Okay, I was with these

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guys called l E. P Yes

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and they from Chicago and it was like the

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biggest street niggas in Chicago at

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the time, so I had a big bid and war

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going on. They took me to l A some

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guy and the crew knew a guy that was DMX

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and stylist at the time, and right

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now it was that what he's been so

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yeah, what these bitches weren't from a nigger video shoot?

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I came there and I remember

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this ship I guessterday. I go to the Paramount

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locked this on in Hollywood or whatever.

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It was like two days shoot, I met Dragon,

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I met um Aliyah was there like that's

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why I like Elias had on me. It was a crazy,

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crazy time and um I went

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and I met DMX for the first time and they get like, yo,

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dm this is the young guy we're telling you. And

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he was like, I'm gonna

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go do this and then he opened

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hand he had a bunch of button and saying a bunch of

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week, like I'll get back to you. And I do this like twelve

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and I'm like teaching,

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are you feel right way? So it

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was like this was

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I don't know whatever. What the bites from video

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was shouting when it came out was

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so we there and he goes to

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smoke his week and then um they're

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like, okay, you can come in the trailer now. So

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X is in the trailer and he's doing like excess

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on top of the world, like at this time I'm talking about

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he had the bitches in the trailer like I think

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man getting massage his feet rubbed at

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the same time smoking a blunt all types of

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ship. So the Nigga X was like, so

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go ahead and sure specim

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ship from me. So I'm like, yo, um,

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I say, I don't know. With the smoking y'all

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be like some fast time. Yeah.

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And then DMX I spent I did

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this loan drawn out verse and dm mix

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is like, shorty, I don't understand

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one.

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I was like yo. Then I spent another rap

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that was more like this is how I used to wrap back in there,

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like fuck the log just bubble up and cut the wrong

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when the trade cock back at a bush of John

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flutting. I was on that that type of time. I

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spent that rap and he was like, yo,

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you're amazing. He like, I funk with

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you. I'm a vibe with your ship. The next

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day, I come back to the video because it's a two days

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shooting, three day shoot type ship. I'm sitting

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I'll come to the video. D m X is blasting

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my demo out his trailer now like this ship

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is going crazy. I'm sitting there and

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Kevin Liles walked up to me like you ready

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for your life to be changed. I'm like yeah,

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and this is big Kevin, not skinny. Yes, it's

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a big key and then X was like, I come

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in and trail again. He's like

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so, he like, Shorty, I'm gonna sign

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you. I'm getting my level. I'm gonna sign you. It's not gonna

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be fast, but i'm gonna sign you. And

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ship. I left that. I was on cloud nine because X

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was like my favorite rapper at the time, and then

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from their ship a beating war and

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sued because once DMX wanted me, then

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now hold want to sign me. And then I start meeting

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all different type people shout to hip hop man, DMS,

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give you a dog. I feel like that. My

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brother like, if he give you a dog, damn, that's

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like giving you a chance. You know, the dog has cut

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it on his back. He gave me one

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of the litter from Boomer and

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he was like, Shorty, he was locked in after that.

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He's like, Shorty, you gotta take this dog every

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fucking way you go. I do not want to see you without this

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dog. So I'm like, damn, I'm like I

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don't know, Like I'm now, I got

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my deal out and flew to He moved me to Edgewater,

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New Jersey. I'm up there and

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we're going in the depth Yam building burning

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it down, have the dogs with the

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dog with me everywhere, my dog with Ship

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in front of Leo's office, and they wouldn't say nothing

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to me. They would be like, that's Iceberg, that's DMX

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artists and Ship. It was. It was

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a lovely time. Man, let's make some noise

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for DMX. Man so

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so, but let's let's get back so um

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alright, bouncing around, let's bee around right. DMX

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was the hottest at

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that time. So everyone deals

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with these discrepancies of people saying,

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um uh when you signed

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to an artist, When you're signed to an artist, was

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that something you faced immediately or that's something that

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that I don't know. I was a kid, like my

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my fondest memories where X is like, that's

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a ill nigger. I remember X went to foot locker

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and ain't boby you no damn shoes or whatever of

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shoes. I

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was a kid. DMX

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stole my first piece of pussy that ever was

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gonna get so first.

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Yes, I almost lost my virginity. But DMX

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though my ple.

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We're in Toronto, Canada. I'm with him. He's

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filming a movie with Steven Seagal, Exit Wounds.

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We're out there We're going crazy, like

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Ex is on top of the world. So we go to this

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club because you know, Ex love to play pool, so

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we like he bought out this whole

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little club and had bitches like it was like

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only we were the only niggers there, but it was full

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of bitches. So X was like, Yo,

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you know what I'm saying, do you, shorty? You know I

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like that little look for you. I'm upstairs. This is

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my first time like finger fucking a girl, Like

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I'm finger finger banging a girl inside

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the club, like smelling me scratch and never

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get my whole little vibe on. We get

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back to the hotel. We're

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staying at the Sutton Place hotel. So

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X had the big penthouse suite. I don't know. For

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some reason, because I was an artist. He put me in like

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the regular room right next to him.

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So you know how this ship go. I'm

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in an entourage. So the artist, you know, X,

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drive like a madman. So he gets there before

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us. He go upstairs with his vibe

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or whatever. I guess his vibe didn't work out. I stayed

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in the car for the rest for like Ali and all the

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other people to like take me upstairs.

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I go upstairs. I'll never forget. I mean,

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I think it was me and p K remember Pek Man.

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We go up, I get off the elevator or whatever, and I

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got the girl with me. I'm talking about. I'm

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literally putting the key inside the hotel

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door and X room open, like

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I think it's like a dog. For he

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opened the door as soon as I'm walking in my like a,

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uh, I think you love your person in my room?

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Why you we've been thesees at the club.

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He ain't never been to that

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bitch goes in d m X room and he took

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me that

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I through that bet you that chick somewhere

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needing to beat right now, she probably

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needed a hit makings beating like right now, I got

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your blessing, but

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the way to go through? So,

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so what was the transition? Because obviously

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as artists, like I think we spoke about

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this somewhat with d Knights right like

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when you transition the fact is

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that most people sit back and they said,

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well, you were supposed to dominate this world, uh,

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before you go to this next world.

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So was this something that you felt like

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as an artist you didn't complete? Well,

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you know, the crazy thing is that I got

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my deal and like shout out to my partner, Billy

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J. Hit me with me right now. We were

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like kids. So I

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was Shinna's hype man, and you

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couldn't just say you can just say that like d TPP

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just her hype man.

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She got a dumps, she was getting some head right

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this, yeah, yeah,

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that was the like, and that's when I was her

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hype man. And from there,

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like just trans I got from there. I

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met Billy because Billy worked for John

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Monopoly. And then

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my manager at the time was my

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weed man. Like I moved in with

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my weed man and he became my manager on something

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I'm

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not sure. I

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was stowing out the pound

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a lot. Then the worst part is that I

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stole my manager slash we man

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credit card and flew Billy to Los Angeles

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and then we all became

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a team. Of course, the man was mad at me. We all became

12:31

a team at that point. And then I had this record,

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Sexy Lady, that UM I produced

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and I wrote as well, and um like I

12:38

was recording myself, like I had to press three

12:40

and go run to the mic and then recorded. I

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did this whole song. It's a two track

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it's never been mixed, it's never been mastered

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song. When number one, it was the number one

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song in l A. And that's how I got my first label

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deal as an artist. And I was actually how

12:53

it was or something like that. And

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then from there, Charlie Walked was

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my CEO. And love Charlie

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Walk because like, no disrespected Charlie.

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Like I know Charlie was doing a bunch of coke Caine

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back in the day or something, you

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know, like you love d

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No. Come on, come

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on baby, I hope enough you're in the build. Hold

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this. I don't know what's going on. Just

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so Yeah, So Charlie walk was my guy,

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and um, I never forget it, like

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I did. I did, um Sexy Lady

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comes out. And then I had this other song called the

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Business that I wanted to put out and

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he was like, it's this song with ray J. You need

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to try out. You guys need to get this. Yes.

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So I hated this song because I thought I was gonna be the

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sexiest Nack in the world. I'm like, yeah, I just drop

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Sexy Lady. Now I'm coming with Sexy

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Can. I like, why what the fun is going on?

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And ray J was like, nah, bro, you gotta do the

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record. Bro, like like it's a sexy

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movement we got going on. I'm like, dog

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hell no. So they because

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I felt like he had a taketop one while he said

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that, and he was like he was looking his lips. I'm

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just thinking that I can see the I

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can see the scene of me. So they convinced

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I didn't want to do the record. I went and I've seen Charlie

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walk and I'm like, yo, you gotta buy me something,

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buy me a chain. I'm like, I want to epic

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record chain to do this record. He called

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Jason Badly Hills the jeweler and brought

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me a chain that same day. So now I had to

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do the record. But let me just be clear. You had

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to be the only nigger with the epic rank, epic

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history. Nobody

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wants to epic records. No, I was

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just on some ship, like, brought me

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a chain, hit

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maker. Why do you you don't say that I had so many chains

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at that point, Like it was signed.

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You sag him on a snoop dog. You

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signed everywhere. My brother, I ain't gonna lie,

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but you got contracts like

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a giraffe. The zo o

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brother for real, bro, and I ain't gonna

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lie. I was sitting there because it's

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mad labels, but I was like, I was like,

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Yo, that's a lot of money. That's

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a lot of money. Hold on them, I keep face tilling me. Must

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be all

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right, I'm gonna calling a drink test? Brother? What's calling

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on? Yo?

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Saturday? Had that wine ready? Saturday?

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Saturday? Yeah? You got

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ghost is and race showing behind lines? All

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right, look I got you,

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I got you. I finished.

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Okay, who can you call? Yeah? Call me? Hold

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on? Hold on? Who's that bad guys? Who's

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that? Oh? Ship chip boo chap

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boo? Okay, makes you who you?

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I loove y'all, loove y'all. Got your Saturday

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Saturday. Let see your Saturday. Alright,

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cool man, this is my porter weekt

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Mafia have to call you when the porter we get

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mafia call you know. So I'm bouncing for

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keep it. I told my mom, um was Ray J

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licking his lips when he told you that conversation

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that boy still happened though? Is

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about it? So we do it? Um. This

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song, the Sexy Cannot Song, Literally

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in Miami. We walked from I think

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I was staying at the Della No to wet

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Willie's and I wrote, this is a big chance

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we keep it real. First of all, you don't have a drink. Have

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a drink, that's one. But I

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feel like Sexy cannot had

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a lot of cocaine on the video.

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Saxon no, no,

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hold on no,

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that's the best. Let let's just say so, that's the best

16:31

part of having a budget to a video is

16:33

you actually have you wanna make

16:35

some luch of that drug

16:40

budget? Come on being

16:43

on death jap to

16:45

put it to the side. You know, you got about Hunred

16:47

and five right, what I

16:50

had the we Love Me but

16:53

the video shoot, that's just yeah. So the video

16:56

of the Sexy kind of it was very It was

16:58

very ecstasy driven, like me and Raged did a

17:00

lot of ecstacy back in the day, Like ecstacy used

17:02

to be my thing. Like I was literally like, would you say

17:04

extacy ghostwriter? Yeah, it wrote

17:07

a lot of Gotti

17:09

like they could be on that

17:11

lifestyle, brew

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up and made all these records. We live the next story to each other.

17:20

So John the

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story so so John like he

17:26

starts making these girl records. He got to

17:28

Badley, he got the ship. I don't like

17:30

start like hold up. So

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he's like, yeoh, man, I'm making these records. I took

17:35

ecstasy. I can't write a goddamn

17:37

record. I can't get an emotion

17:39

though, just what I said.

17:42

But y'all, Ruler, you think it's made mother whole

17:45

career over that ship, I got super creative.

17:47

Shout out to John because they put me on that

17:49

ship. Like Son

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video, We're here in Miami.

17:54

We're shooting the video. The song isn't

17:56

even out yet, you know what. We're trying to shoot the video

17:58

before the song comes out. So shout

18:01

out to um everybody. Man shouts all the

18:03

people from Cotch but Downhill, the

18:05

people Alan Grumblad all them. I still do business

18:07

with him. Yeah. So we're

18:10

at the video and we're shooting the first

18:12

shot of the day near Ray J and a Lamborghini.

18:15

We're smoking a blunt. I

18:18

threw the broach out the car. The police

18:20

that we're keeping us sable picked

18:23

up the roach out the Lamborghini smelt

18:25

it. Locked my ass up a Mimi

18:27

before the first shot of the day. So I

18:30

go to jail. I'm in Dave. It

18:33

was a roach and then we were about I just

18:35

threw it out because we're about to shoot the first shot.

18:37

He picked up the room, he

18:41

picked up their should up. I'm in jail,

18:44

they're shooting a video. I'm sick these niggas

18:47

trying to bring me but lonely sandwiches and all

18:49

the type of ship. I'm like, Nah, I'm

18:51

young, berg so not niggas want me to wrap foot

18:54

in jail for that next thing. I thought,

18:57

they like, Ward comes the Lord, him

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out my last main award. You never

19:02

believe this ship. Shaquille O'Neill

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billed me out of prison while I was down here, because you

19:06

know, Shaq a sheriff in Miami. Like

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that, Shaquille, I

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don't even got nothing to see right now, he continued.

19:21

So shot comes and gets me. Not but it's nighttime,

19:23

like I've been in jail for probably like twelve hours now. So

19:26

shot comes how Because

19:29

ray J and Shaq had a partnership with that

19:31

record, so they did business on that.

19:33

If you look at ray j Sexy County song,

19:36

Shaquille O'Neil's um imprints

19:38

on it as well. So he came and got

19:41

me. We get there now, I'm

19:43

heeding. Now I'm trying to get as drunk as possible

19:45

as quick as I can. So we

19:48

drink, drink, drink, drink, drink, drink drink. I think I

19:50

might have like fell in a pool or

19:52

some crazy, but we shocked the video and it was success.

19:54

It's the biggest song of my career, honestly

19:56

that I've ever been involved in. Ships sold ten million records.

19:59

Who would have thought that Me ray J was sale? Tim? How

20:01

do you Juanna,

20:03

Marie? No? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

20:06

a little bit. So me and ray J was

20:08

really cool. You know, Loving hip Hop came

20:10

around. You know, listen to be careful

20:12

because I watched every episode. Listen,

20:14

all right, every

20:17

episode Love of hip Hop, Marriage, boot Camp. I'm into

20:19

all of that. I was a movie on that. But it

20:21

kind of was like it was a little foul because you

20:23

knew ray J was dating Diarra

20:26

and then the him and then the

20:28

world was she gave your head in the back

20:31

seat? Let me this is they were

20:33

no, So it wasn't in a back seat

20:35

something like that. Apologize

20:38

I'm just saying, but I'm just you know, it's what I heard. I

20:41

can't I can't lie, so I'll just tell the truth.

20:44

Basically, ray J. Me and ray

20:46

J was really cool, and we did a lot of created

20:48

a lot of history as well with that record, and we got

20:51

on the show and then fucking um

20:53

Ray was having his turmoil with his

20:56

girl at Princess at the time, and

20:58

then Ray ended up doubling back and dealing

21:00

with Tierra Maria or whatever. So the nigga

21:02

Ray I told Ray, like, Ray was calling

21:05

my phone Whack one hundred, all these other niggas

21:07

shout to whack whack, we love you whatever, and

21:11

like kind of like threatening me, like pressing me a little

21:13

bit over you know what I'm saying, his chick over Tierra

21:15

Marie. And I'm like, and she's but

21:17

she was setting it up the whole time, like going back

21:19

and I'm like, bro, why are you pressing me? Like she

21:21

just sucking my dick? Bro, Like I ain't. I

21:26

ain't go that crazy. He was like, oh for real.

21:28

He's like that's perfect because I want to get

21:31

back with Princess. And at the end of the season,

21:33

I kind of left with Tiera, so on

21:35

a reunion, you gotta tell

21:38

them that she gave you top, so everything

21:40

a bit makes sense. And I was

21:42

like, man, hell no, I ain't

21:44

kissing tail last nigga and the head was five,

21:47

So I'm like so

21:53

basically at the reunion, him

21:56

and Whack one hundred pressured me to say, and I'm

21:58

bros over els. You know what

22:00

I'm saying. So I said it. I feel terrible

22:03

about it. Tim. Marie is a beautiful person.

22:05

When you gave her a record though, yeah, that

22:07

recently, I gave a record while he was on the show.

22:10

The biggest scene that she had since she was

22:12

on Rockefeller or whatever. And you know,

22:14

but she was dealing with her issue. She was a drink

22:16

champ at that time. Now I feel like she sobered up

22:18

and she looking honest. I went to u

22:21

uh was dea

22:23

think it was a depth jamn showcase and it was

22:25

Tierra movie, Rihanna and I think

22:27

a Marie and and

22:30

you know who everyone was was was following

22:33

to and people

22:35

were just looking over Rihanna, our kids.

22:37

You not. I know Hana remembers that party too.

22:40

You remember

22:48

that ship whatever? You like

22:50

that. But I ain't like that. I

22:52

ain't like that. Learning

22:55

on me coming up? Oh I was, but you

22:57

coming down, y'all,

23:00

you don't remember. I

23:02

just text you like I just texted him

23:04

like gui man and dissed me in a song, and I did

23:07

several singles on Gucci Man Time

23:11

Out. Gucci Man dished you on the song.

23:13

He said, some ship like I was going through, like some

23:15

turmoil as a young bird or whatever,

23:18

and then he used me like as a punch line. Oh

23:20

but that's still all up and that's my like

23:24

like they said, like they said the dude

23:26

to do forty two for the two dogs.

23:28

He said before I go broke like jop. Yeah,

23:31

it was some ship like that. Yeah, it was like,

23:33

oh, like a bad experience that

23:35

I had and he just, you know what I'm saying, played it up

23:37

on it. But at the end of the day, now I look at it, me and Gucci

23:40

Man and sold millions of records together. I

23:42

mean, you don't get you don't actually have to get along

23:44

with the people you make music with. I don't

23:46

think you. I don't think that's I said, that's

23:48

a necessary what they say. It would

23:50

be nice if you could, but I don't think

23:52

that every time, Like people don't like I

23:55

know, these people don't like me. You know what I'm saying. I'm on

23:57

at let

23:59

me tell you some I've interviewed. This is how many episodes

24:02

of this are we on almost

24:04

two hundred, right, And let me just tell you something. This is this.

24:06

You have your fan base. Let me tell

24:08

you, but your fans I kind of

24:10

every time I interview somebody, I go to Twitter, I

24:12

go to Instagram, and I get a field of your

24:15

fan base. You have a very unique fan

24:17

base. But you have a real fan base, meaning most

24:20

of the time it's people they either really

24:22

really love you. Man, you

24:27

don't have the in betweens. When I hit and

24:29

I was like, yeo, I got hit Maker coming

24:32

up, got young Bird and I kid

24:34

you not, it was fifty fifty down the

24:36

line. I was like, yo, man, he

24:38

got he made a great career of himself. And then other

24:40

people was just like man, you know so

24:45

it's how does that affect you? Like

24:48

a rich or? You don't affect me, don't

24:51

you know? What I mean? Is what I mean is

24:53

how do you take the good with the bag? When it comes with that? Everybody

24:56

and shipped it on me. So now it's just like it

24:58

don't even matter. So

25:02

you built, you've been you've built thick

25:04

skin, or you already had stick. It was I

25:06

had to build it because like man, like I

25:08

went through a lot of things. A lot of things that I went through with young

25:10

Burg wasn't even really my beefs, so my issues.

25:13

It was like you know, I was just yeah,

25:18

I'm going watermelon the baby. I'm living off

25:20

the stereotype. But I

25:25

only say that Donna laugh. But now

25:27

I went through a bunch of turmoil, Like I literally

25:29

grew up in front of the camp you

25:32

know what I'm saying, Like I literally nickers

25:34

can see the good, the bad, ugly with me. So

25:36

it's kind of like and you own it. You own

25:39

it. That's what it is.

25:41

What it is man like, at the end of the day,

25:43

it's about it's about longevity, it's

25:46

about having a real career, and it's just

25:48

about money, bro, because these

25:50

people they don't. It's fickle man.

25:53

Like went three four years ago,

25:56

I thought I had e bowler myself. Nobody

25:58

wanted to be near me. I'm talking about I think

26:00

I couldn't. It was like bad to bring like don't

26:02

I was nigga not to bring around, like don't

26:05

bring bro, or like I would be in the club and

26:07

like wrapp us with like not want me around or

26:09

something like that, to play me dirty. Now my

26:11

phone looked like the hot one hunting. No,

26:14

but explain that though, Explain like, what

26:17

does that come from? People thinking that he

26:19

was taking advantage of you or something like that? You get into the

26:21

scripancy. It was the screpacy.

26:23

I guess it just wasn't cool to be around me. I

26:26

never forget this ship. So I

26:28

on my transition and from the

26:31

Young Bird, we want

26:33

one at I don't know what. Okay,

26:35

all right, so where's my shot? Special?

26:39

You know we like to rock overhead. You know what I'm

26:41

saying. We gotta just pick up just vote

26:45

I would and I want to be club focus

26:48

in case because the case far for anybody. Um

26:50

young Berg from the nineteen two recommended

26:53

to Delhi Yard. Well, you know, he's just old man.

26:56

I'm gonna take a shot of solid.

27:02

This is to you, though, brother, This is to you, brother. Let just

27:04

so you know, I'll show it's about celebrating

27:06

all legends, and you're a motherfucking legend, my

27:09

brother. Now that's different, shot. Okay, it's

27:13

different. I'm different. I

27:17

felt like Benny Hill, just now what are

27:19

we talking about? Because so

27:22

look, this is a crazy thing, okay, because that

27:25

you're already making it think The first time I said

27:27

hit maker was probably it's on this song,

27:30

well, the first one that came out as a uh, DJ

27:33

infamous you have you know this guy, he's in Atlanta. Do

27:36

you have a catch for heating um hit heat

27:39

makers? Nah? But I love

27:41

heatmakers. Yeah. So I

27:43

did this record. It's called Double

27:45

Cup and it was DJ Infamous featuring

27:48

myself, Jeez, Juicy

27:50

J, and Ludicrous. So I

27:53

remember this ship, like yesterday, were in Atlanta. We're

27:55

shooting a video and we're

27:57

on set and like I'm watching these

28:00

they can shoot the whole video without like without

28:02

me in it, like Jez didn't

28:04

want me in his shot or whatever, and all this other

28:06

ship the story. So listen, I

28:11

had my own shots, but Jeez didn't want me in

28:13

his shot. But it was the group shot and it's like I'm

28:15

actually wrapping the hook on this like it's my song.

28:17

Like so and

28:22

you know, at the time, I'm guessing Jess

28:24

had that image to be a thing and

28:27

know what I'm saying, so so, um, I

28:29

never forget it. So I'm there and at that

28:31

point I'm mad as hell. I'm like, damn,

28:34

I didn't. So I didn't. I threw back a half

28:36

a bottle. Now now I'm drunk. Now I'm

28:38

like, you know where fun this ship? They

28:40

like action I ran

28:43

in, Jez shot you know what I'm saying that start wrapping

28:45

my ship or whatever. They like, He's

28:47

like, they don't want to go crip crazy on this. I

28:50

think it was mad as helling me or whatever. But

28:53

like now full circle man,

28:55

me and Jez is good man, Jeez want

28:57

to work. You know he just DM me recently or whatever.

28:59

But I show you how ship comes forward circle.

29:02

I wasn't allowed in the video next one. Now

29:05

I'm able to you know what I'm saying at work with these people, so

29:07

like it's crazy like my brother and

29:09

how like I mean, I know this

29:11

is kind of sounds generic, but like, how

29:14

do you how do you deal with that? Like I know

29:17

we said we're rich. We we've dealt we dealt with that part. We know

29:19

moment because we're all human

29:22

like at the end of the day, like everyone hears

29:24

right, Like you know, I learned the industry

29:27

or I've been in this ship since a kid. Do

29:29

you know how this ship go? Because we listen when I

29:31

did reggae though I had the raybies like

29:33

I have rabies, Black people like

29:36

we would hip hop and then look at

29:38

the ship that guys like

29:41

holy lonely walk. I told you I was sparing us

29:43

for the beginning and to

29:45

get us everything. Everybody, Yeah,

29:47

yeah, yeah, I had the coolies. I

29:50

went through that, so hopefully I had to go through that. You know

29:52

what's now,

29:58

it's every artist goes through that time you

30:00

get the cooties, right, every artist, every

30:02

like I mean, I don't give an who he is. Whether

30:04

even even though as had the cooties, Jay

30:07

had the cooties, like like and Career

30:10

were talking about that after he did had

30:12

the cooties. Yes he did, and when he dropped

30:15

that record where he actually was speaking

30:17

about like the girl like um the

30:19

one that yeah, that he had

30:21

the cooties. Bro I mean, it might have only been

30:23

two weeks to two months, but the cooties is the cooties.

30:26

Nonetheless, Man, they're

30:28

serious. I mean, being rich and having the cooties

30:31

is one thing. It's still it's still

30:33

the cooties. That's that's

30:35

that's what covid is is

30:38

crazy. Being broke this probably and having couzies.

30:40

The body is the worse. But

30:44

listen, I know Rick

30:47

insecure people, very

30:50

insecure people. I like, I

30:52

want to say their name so bad, trust

30:56

me, not

30:58

the shot get start.

31:03

But listen, there's a lot of insecure

31:05

people out there, so just just

31:08

just just know that. But let's us move on, right,

31:11

So you and ray Je, remember

31:13

how did y'all actually get put it together?

31:15

Like because your brothers now again, Yeah, nothing,

31:19

that was it? And then like ship, you

31:22

know, like you gotta scool the bike. No,

31:25

if I wasn't hit maker right now, ray J wouldn't

31:27

funk with me, Like, let's be cool. I don't know what was

31:29

going there, but for it, that's what are you talking about.

31:32

I think that my success, Like

31:35

you have to acknowledge me now now it's like, you

31:37

know what, I always believe that you you always had

31:39

the air for this ship type of thing. Like what you're

31:41

saying this sounds a little crazy. You don't think so No,

31:44

no, I don't saying straight up, Jesu,

31:49

I gotta

31:54

I gotta catch my shot

31:56

cut WHOA, So I

31:59

mean that's kind of crazy. I understand

32:01

what I'm

32:03

I'm gonna keep it because you know that's

32:06

cool. I'm

32:09

sticking with sticking

32:11

with the yall. You know what, I mean, holy

32:15

movie. I wasn't ready for the answer just now.

32:18

That's my though. I've just seen him. Listen.

32:20

I famous story

32:23

is Leo. Leo run me

32:25

to his house one day and said, you

32:28

like this house? I said yes. He said, but make sure you had

32:30

enough next year. So I can't

32:32

invite you back for

32:35

that. Terrible story but very

32:38

rare. Yeah, right, because it's like he basically

32:40

told me, Yo, you paid the bill for deaf Jam this year,

32:42

you got the number one record, but make sure you how

32:45

you come back. You're saying that's what you're in

32:48

ray J's relationship. But I prefer

32:50

to like how Lee or is because it ain't no cut on

32:52

that, you know what I'm saying, Like certain people lead

32:54

you to believe that they're your best friend. You know

32:56

what I'm saying that they executive and the same executive

32:59

you get cold than they won't ever speak to you again.

33:01

I feel like you're trying to say, ray they did that

33:03

to you. I feel like, guess we're trying to say ray

33:07

J is a good first and foremost, ray That's a good guy.

33:09

He's a good guy. I've had so many many experience

33:11

ray J smashed everybody in the industry, like I looked

33:14

up to ray J. That's how we got cool. I

33:26

take it from ray J smash everything. Take it from that. Ray

33:29

J smashed everything else. At one point he was back

33:31

to back tour busses. Imagine

33:33

me and ray J on a sexy ken tour

33:36

and picturement what's going on. I'm married, I

33:38

am a married man, but I'm gonna live by Curious to you

33:40

motherfucker's right now, let's describe what happened, not bike

33:42

Curious, rest

33:49

in peace to the lovely, the

33:51

fucking legend. Let me tell y'all story.

33:54

How do we get to rest in peace? Oh,

33:59

I'm like you talking down. Let's me talking

34:01

about killing.

34:06

We gotta take it people, some people, Okay,

34:09

so talking about Hold, let me just figure about what we're gonna

34:12

Let me figure about who we're gonna here, because we just I feel

34:15

like you give us a rage Whitney

34:17

story. Yeah, that's where we're going.

34:19

Let's go. Let's go because

34:25

probably my

34:29

biggest party is in the corner looking like looking

34:32

at me right now. So look be in

34:34

Atlanta, and um

34:36

we staying at this hotel and then

34:38

um we have a show at Compound

34:41

Nightclub. So I go get

34:43

in the car with Ray and Whitney Houston is in

34:45

the car with us. So like Whitney

34:48

was a gamester though she's a real ain't

34:50

like y. I'm talking about, like we

34:52

get the compound well

34:55

first and foremost, do you understand what I'm saying. We took

34:57

Whitney Houston to compound and perform Say

35:00

and Canna. I'm feeling like you're saying kidnaps. No

35:02

no, So

35:07

we put a hoodie on

35:09

her. We're

35:11

parking them back. I'm like, damn, like

35:13

we need some drinks. She like rolled

35:15

out the window, sent the security in the

35:17

come out with the jumbo patron. It's back when niggas

35:19

drinking patrone. Me and Whitney I'm throwing back

35:22

patrol. I'm talking about like crazy

35:24

crazy. She's smoking and chain smoking squares. It

35:26

was. It was a vibe. So we go in the club, we

35:28

do sexy can I now mind you

35:31

damn don't

35:36

look that way. So we

35:41

had the hotel and like my hype man, I think

35:44

my hype man and one of the people that was with me left,

35:46

so like I had extra hotel rooms. So

35:49

Ray come to my hotel and he like yo

35:51

berg um, I got the bitches that I brought back,

35:53

Like, I know you got extra rooms, so go ahead

35:55

and like give me your keys to the other rooms. So

36:03

that's so,

36:05

I give them the keys to the room. But I gave him

36:08

one wrong key. So I'm looking for ray

36:10

J. I'm going through and I'm like, when I'm gonna go to this room

36:12

and look for this thing. I go on the room.

36:17

I don't know where. Yeah, I'm kind of nervous

36:19

about this Witney Houston taking

36:22

her pants off. I walked in the room like

36:24

she getting naked and ray J room and she's like, hey

36:26

out here young and I'm like, oh my dad, I'm sorry,

36:29

and I ran out the room. Damn

36:31

man, I don't know how to answer

36:33

this right now. And

36:38

I thought I've had every answer to everything and

36:42

you're sucking me up right now. I

36:44

was like, no, this is consequences to what I want

36:46

to say. After they say I

36:50

don't know what I want to say because this is I wasn't

36:53

ready. He wasn't basically

36:56

saying you sol Whitney Houston nicking yeah,

37:00

jeez, the wise. I don't

37:02

know if it makes a noise for this. Bobby Brown might be

37:04

mad we love. That's

37:07

right, love Bobby, we love with me, We love

37:09

all that ship. I'm just telling y'all my life. It's

37:13

like my life. I can't seeing Maron menroll

37:15

naked. It was that's like, wow, who

37:18

you see naked? I

37:26

don't kiss. The newest

37:29

show is who Have? Who

37:32

are you see? I'm

37:37

not gonna lie, but you live a life. We

37:39

must say that you live a life. Um,

37:42

we've been hearing about you knocking down a lot

37:46

o Lord, I'm living.

37:49

Who was one thing you knocked down to you was like whoa

37:54

yo? I'm gonna tell you a crazy I

37:58

don't mean no disrespect. I don't know. I

38:01

don't know if you marry my I don't or whatever. This

38:03

ship is crazy, like this is the first time,

38:05

like I'm telling you my my young life. So after

38:10

the whole DMX ship folds, Troy

38:12

Carter and Jay Irving become my manager. Troy

38:15

Carter, that's my man from Spotify. I just made about

38:17

all. So yeah,

38:19

I used to manage Eve and Eve's also

38:21

my big sister mentors. Well, she's the

38:24

one who at my name was Iceberg. Eve

38:26

called me young Berg for the first time, and that

38:29

became my name. But

38:34

she came. So I go to l A and like,

38:37

UM, I don't got ship going on. I'm living

38:39

in l A. I'm fucked up. And but I was with

38:41

Eve and Evens on top of the world at this time,

38:43

and then the boyfriend. Yet no, no,

38:45

no, no, let me blow your mind when step

38:47

fire. I'm just one of them. So

38:51

she was working on the next album. My first writing

38:53

placement as a writer. I wrote the title track

38:56

hook to Eve Evolution.

38:58

That was the name of her album, Evolution. There's

39:00

a song called Evolution on that. I wrote

39:02

the hook to the song. You can actually still hear my

39:04

vocals in the song and all other ship. So

39:07

she gave me my first placement as well. She changed

39:09

my name. She's been a big system, the mentor

39:11

of me. So I started Troy

39:14

signed this artist named Morgan Smith. This girl

39:16

is beautiful. She was like around my age.

39:18

He like, yo, I'm gonna let you write

39:21

the album like you didn't do this by blah blah.

39:24

I wrote the album with um and

39:26

I just got one of them, remember them cross fires

39:28

like the Chrysler cross fire them a little to

39:31

see the cars that the cry. I got

39:33

one of them. No, I'm sorry I don't remember that. Yeah,

39:35

I got one of them, and I thought I was this ship,

39:37

so like I ended up meeting like the

39:39

girls from three l W remember

39:42

that, ye remember that ain't

39:44

one of them on a fuel? No? Yes?

39:46

And then the other girls don't. The one that I smash

39:49

is on power Okay,

39:52

I know what was gonna No,

39:54

we weren't. So

39:57

I'll never forget this ship. This

40:01

is the first time I ever like, like I learned

40:03

the real life lesson like this day.

40:06

Listen. So she I think

40:09

she was living at some apartment complex or where

40:11

that we was cool. It was at the art Stone if

40:13

anybody in l A already know about the art Stone.

40:15

That's where all the artists used to live. This in North Hollywood

40:17

or whatever. So I go to her crib.

40:19

They're having a little party or whatever. It's like all

40:22

the little three or W girls and ship and fucking

40:25

uh we go on. We smash the

40:28

power one. Yeah okay, but I

40:31

was like girl, Yeah, I'm like girl, I'm

40:33

like, it's the first smash girl. Look

40:35

at you. I'm

40:41

like, it's something in her pussy. Like

40:44

when I thought about like, I

40:47

didn't know what he was going you're

40:51

talking about because listen, this is the first and first moments

40:54

right keeps catching me, but I don't even

40:56

have a response. What did you say, sir? I'm

40:58

sorry, So it was like felt

41:01

like a mouse trapping up vain. I

41:03

think you said damon or something. And

41:05

that's the first time I learned about birth control.

41:08

She had the U Okay,

41:17

it's my first time. You ain't never seen that, y'alla.

41:20

You know, Oh

41:24

my god, this is crazy, but

41:27

you live in life all and I

41:29

love you. This is years ago, this

41:31

is twenty years ago. This is because I feel

41:34

like you was being like I feel like like like

41:36

he was getting that light skin nigger pussy, right, you

41:39

know, y'all light skin niggers. Y'all get like kids and

41:41

play. You're like you weould kid,

41:45

light skin you you

41:47

you get

41:49

to Drake, drink us Drake Nani. So

41:52

let's be clear. Let's be clear. I think Drake got the best

41:55

record in the game. And then are you like number

41:57

two or three? We rank yourself or

41:59

you're saying you up there with Drake. To

42:02

be honest, I think that we all

42:05

have kind of like entertained and dealt with the same

42:07

women. But I'm kind of off

42:09

that now Like now I'm just like now

42:11

I'm an executive, like now that I'm you know what I'm

42:13

saying, like for vice president Lantic Records,

42:16

Like I a CEO of my own record company. Okay,

42:18

we're not talking about that two about the past and it passed.

42:20

Yeah, okay, my

42:23

jersey is up there. Of

42:26

course we're tiring. Yeah, ok mm,

42:29

interesting me ray J.

42:32

Keep doing the

42:36

Hall of Fame is a wolf. He's

42:38

in the Hall of Fame's cheeping the wolf's clothing.

42:40

Yeah, that's a sniper lists.

42:44

Yes, man, I like your guys. Shout out to my brother.

42:46

French is a sniper

42:49

too. He's a sniper and he

42:51

got the list and also on executive

42:54

in French Montana's new album is about the company to the album,

42:56

Yeah, so shout out like a lot of ecstasy in

42:58

that ship. I

43:03

love that. Sober Friends is a

43:05

different vibe different. I'm talking about the name

43:07

Cold Turkey, like to the part that you feel

43:10

bad even drinking in front of It's

43:12

Cold Turkey. Brother. I

43:17

a lot though, because I'm like a little sensitive

43:19

ruse. I'm a little like I like eminem right,

43:21

like, but I like the drug outaminem a little bit

43:23

more. That makes me an up person. You

43:27

love Cody Ain Wayne, you love call Sir

43:29

Away, you

43:32

love the music, but you're happy for the person.

43:34

It's different. It's different. I'm not sure. I think I

43:36

love the person a little bit. I

43:39

don't care what drug drugs is like

43:41

the drugs is part of the music and like most of my friends

43:44

and drugs drugs

43:47

like heroin,

43:51

crazy, gonna lie like I

43:53

mean, now, I didn't want the person goes sober, sober,

43:55

I'll be like sober,

43:58

but like I'm gonna be clod out. French

44:00

Montana sounds the best I've ever heard French

44:02

Montana life right now? What makes yeah?

44:08

So he just went, He just went. He just went, Walla,

44:10

Walla. He was a French Yeah. We

44:12

got Yeah. He's just I don't

44:14

know. He has a documentary that's coming along with the album

44:17

that's explain I'm gonna let him explain his own journey

44:19

because I don't even know it. Like I'm one of the niggas

44:21

that I don't really ask too much questions, you know what I'm

44:23

saying, Like, I just want to get the work done. So

44:26

shout out to French man. We got records man, We got

44:28

we got one. He's coming back with

44:30

a vengeance I love. We were talking about

44:33

NAS earlier. We got French has one with John

44:35

Legend and Nas. That's amazing and ideas

44:38

the second one because didn't they have no that was Kanye. Okay,

44:41

Yeah, that's hard John. Let you and thank

44:43

you, and you're doing the whole album. Probably

44:46

I'm executive producing the album, okay. Meaning

44:48

what that means. That means even when produce

44:51

submit beats that you you look

44:54

over it now, like if he does other songs with other

44:56

producers, I might go in and restructure

44:58

it or tell him I don't save this song. I don't

45:00

feel it. You know what I'm saying? Like just that type of

45:02

ship, how much that cause to get you to

45:04

do? Um? It

45:07

seems like a hot, like a hot like mid

45:09

six figures hot,

45:14

short feast feat stomp or

45:16

hand clap, Let's let's try to feet stop

45:23

goddamn it. Okay,

45:25

I'm giving fifty tho a track right

45:27

now. Ain't nobody getting fifty Nick

45:31

is giving up Beast Huntred

45:34

five. We're getting fifty Bendos

45:36

track. But and the crazy

45:38

thing is that I feel like as an executive

45:41

and just as a producer. It's my duty

45:43

to put people on game. And like all my co producers

45:45

that I work with, like, I'm probably the only

45:47

person in the business that has song deals

45:50

with almost every company

45:52

in the game have song deals everywhere.

45:54

So they just paid me in bolt up front and

45:57

then they pay my nas

46:00

song bill. So say, well,

46:02

I say, you work for Epic Records

46:04

and you want to give me you Silvi your

46:06

own You say you know I wanna. I want to lock in

46:09

with you. You give me pay

46:11

me for twenty five songs for

46:13

thirty thousand up front

46:16

and then take care of the co produce on the back

46:18

end. And then that's

46:20

what I'm say. So

46:26

what does what the producers you? You collapse

46:28

with man? I love my

46:30

people's um Well Smash

46:33

David is one of my guys. O G. Parker,

46:35

Prince Frishan is my partner. We do

46:37

everything together. London J is an

46:39

incredible person I work with um Man,

46:42

it's like it's an army of us, like twelve

46:45

of us. I don't produce in a way that other

46:47

people produce, like niggas make beats. I'm

46:49

like the puff daddy of this generation.

46:52

Like and I set out like I looked Puff his eyes

46:54

and told him, I'm you when

46:56

you was on that ship, I'm you would watch me

46:59

bring it back? And then you tell by radio like all

47:01

the records has been flipped. What do you mean by that? The

47:03

samples a sample

47:05

wise and lifestyle wise. Well,

47:07

now his lifestyle is a little bit different than mine, but

47:10

just like musically, like

47:12

the energy that he brought to the game at that time of

47:15

being a CEO, like, I'm I'm not reincarnated,

47:17

I'm the second coming to that right now? You know, God,

47:20

that makes some noise. That So

47:24

what made you even want to do to be out of the show

47:26

thing though? Because I was working with Nicki

47:28

Minaj and Puff and I was like, no, yeah,

47:33

I was, uh,

47:39

how does that have anything to do with love? And so?

47:47

But that's your nicky old pump did not recommend

47:49

you doing another hip hop cap

47:52

look it did. So let

47:54

me tell you all crazy story how man, Nicki

47:56

Minaj. So, I was at a studio

47:59

called glenn Wood. It where you came to see me

48:01

a studio

48:04

you had candles as candles.

48:08

I was at this studio. I see

48:10

candles. I'd be like, ship is calm, Like

48:12

I'm sorry, I went to So I came

48:15

to see one of my dear

48:17

friends, Sounds. He's a producer also,

48:19

and I was there, but I was just there in

48:22

like a homey capacity, like I wasn't there

48:24

like to work or nothing like that. And my

48:27

brother, who Doc, shout out, my brother Doc.

48:29

He was with me. He drove me to the session and

48:33

he's like, man, I think I've just seen Nicki Minas. I think

48:35

Nicki Minas was my studio. I'm like, what

48:38

So the night before you've never met Nicky

48:41

Price. Never the night before I

48:44

did a record and I named it Nicki and hit

48:46

Maker. I did that Mike Karen studio. Shout out

48:48

to Mike Karen and I had

48:51

it with me and I was like, damn, this ship

48:53

ain't no coincidence, Like this ship must be real. So

48:55

I told my nigga Doc, just just throwing in

48:57

the air, like tell her that

49:00

I want to play some record for us. So you went to security

49:02

and the security um when and uh,

49:05

they told me like give her twenty minutes.

49:08

So they came and got me in twenty minutes.

49:11

I was like, oh, ship, you had to go to her

49:13

studio. She was in an eight room.

49:15

We was in like a smaller room. So I

49:17

went to the studio with her and I'm

49:20

just playing ship and like she started working

49:22

with it. I could tell like I'm going I'm dropping

49:24

bomb bang and like going crazy and

49:27

then um the fund

49:30

The wildest thing of that whole day. What was really

49:32

inspirational for me and what like blew my mind

49:34

is that after all the songs have played, she

49:36

was like, you know what, Um, I ain't

49:39

gonna lie like I've

49:41

been working with you since this and she went and played

49:43

my song in the Business as young Burg or whatever

49:46

her laptop and was dancing to it and all

49:48

other ships and like at that point, like we we can't

49:50

like brother and siss man like I did.

49:52

I think I did, uh six

49:55

or six records on the Pink Print album

49:58

something like that. How was checks looking

50:02

pretty nice? Did the chess

50:05

coming pink? Who's

50:12

somebody that, um, what's somebody

50:15

that you worked with that you didn't think in many years

50:17

you would ever work with. I know you've

50:19

mentioned the j and the Gucci man earlier, but who's

50:21

somebody like you know, maybe didn't

50:23

take a shot at you, but you just didn't think we have

50:26

a call mm hmm. It's

50:28

most awkward ship. What's the most awkward

50:31

ship? Dona ain't asked you to think about? Nah?

50:35

Ain't that really very awkward? My bro? Like

50:37

it's like I've had legendary ship though,

50:40

like like for me um

50:43

working with Charlie Wilson, Like like Charlie

50:45

Wilson coming in my studio. That seeing

50:47

some ship over. You know what I'm saying, Like, what's

50:49

epic for me? Um? And

50:52

I work with everybody who's left that

50:54

you want to work with? It it's only two

50:57

and be honest. Then

51:00

the person coming through this door, that

51:03

sunny d oh

51:06

ship? Oh

51:09

shit, sorry, so he

51:11

thought it was a sunny day. It's a far

51:13

of life. Bro. Oh so that's it? Just hoping

51:15

Beyonce you wont be oes no,

51:19

and sure and you got

51:21

something with Kanye Yeah he did

51:23

my demo. Yeah that's right there.

51:30

Okay, bro, everybody else has come,

51:33

but you can say it like that. What got

51:37

signed a DMX Yes, yeah, producer.

51:43

He was under no idea at that time though, go

51:46

get us. What was his name, kan

51:48

West? Did

51:52

he have a polo back then? He used to live

51:54

on ninety five in Western right

51:56

across the street from JJ's fish and like they

51:58

had like a little spot or whatever. We used to go

52:00

in there or whatever, and man,

52:03

like the man's a legend.

52:05

Man like they just know where we come from. Like granted,

52:07

what's going on now like all the other stuff and

52:10

we know that like

52:13

musically, like I respect him, you know

52:15

what I'm saying, Like I watched it like that that kind

52:17

of like what's the inspiration? That's what mag niggas

52:19

believe that you actually could get out the city. It

52:22

was not common. Comment

52:24

is my brother, but comment

52:27

and twister my brother. But like you kind

52:29

of took it at leaps and bounds further

52:32

and then you know what in a in a fast time

52:35

coming crop to yeah now comment

52:37

no ideas a producer was doing a lot earlier.

52:40

I remember like no I d was

52:42

like Yoda of Chicago, like

52:48

and every good

52:52

if no idea good? Why the fun?

52:54

I got to drinks? What happened? Because

52:56

one was a shot? I pull up my in the

52:58

shot. You didn't drink your shot. I don't know, that's

53:00

my boy. I'm get you. Come

53:03

on, you ain't. You ain't saying nothing. You ain't saying another

53:05

shot. Listen, you've been

53:08

patient about doing drink champs.

53:10

I really respect how we shout

53:13

speak to each other and our schedule

53:15

conflicts didn't actually work. Yeah, and

53:18

you stuck around and I really appreciate that. I really

53:20

do you see

53:22

your every day struggling and show like that. I felt sorry

53:25

for you. Shout

53:29

yo, Joe is oh, I'm

53:32

gonna finish. It's crazy Joe didn't kind of became

53:34

my brother like and that's that's what's why great

53:37

god man, I'm trying to squash with him and Gilly

53:39

the Kid right now. Really, I love Gilly

53:41

Angel. I think they I think I think

53:43

they're both tripping him. But I think I think I think

53:46

you know, you know your like skinned brothers. You know how y'all get down.

53:49

You know when you're gonna skip me, and I'm gonna keep it on. Honey,

53:51

you already know what everybody beef

53:53

this over three things those

53:56

hose ever, money and

54:00

beef is impossible to

54:03

see that the nigger ego right

54:05

something to do with a women woman playing

54:08

with that money. So let's talk about some of yours because

54:11

like when you you know, obviously when we google

54:13

you, I have to do I have to do like else,

54:16

So people is google you like your

54:19

your drama comes up, Like why

54:21

do you think that it even circles

54:24

around you? Like for instance, like

54:26

main, no, right, like what happened between

54:29

you and man, I don't even nothing. Um,

54:35

I want to tell the truth so much about

54:38

this, but the way the situation

54:41

was handled kind

54:44

of like I don't know what

54:46

happened or that, and you know what I'm saying, because I was really

54:48

cool man, But like all

54:52

right, I'm gonna tell the story. So look,

54:55

um, we in this back in the Ecstasy

54:57

days. I'm a young bird the artist. We in Atlanta,

55:00

and we we go

55:02

to the club this night and situation

55:06

that happened with me and Trick trick already So

55:08

I had a like they did

55:11

like to transform a chain. I had a long time

55:13

about they did some duffer that in Detroit.

55:16

So I had a chip on my shoulder. And I'm

55:18

gonna tell the stories because like I want to be transparent

55:21

to everybody and so hopefully somebody can learn from

55:23

ship. So I had a chip on my shoulder. Me

55:25

and man it was cool man. It was on the remix of my

55:27

song and business like all that you know. And from

55:30

there, like I went in the club and like

55:33

I was annoying. I was tripping,

55:36

like I was bugging out this night like I performed.

55:40

I was kissing women on stage while

55:42

I was performing, like I was in a whole different

55:44

bag, like like I was in some real different

55:47

and feeling Porto Rican in name women

55:52

and uh,

55:55

I guess, I guess fucking I don't

55:58

know. I felt the way about something. And then like

56:00

like I kicked it off with men like I was just on

56:02

some boyshit, like I felt like he was trying to play

56:04

me for some reason he really wasn't, and

56:07

like I was at at the time, Yeah, yeah,

56:09

and I did some dumb ship, you know what I'm saying. So

56:12

from there, like we had spoke and

56:16

uh, like I talked to him after the whole incident

56:19

because it was like it was like a little situation

56:21

like something happened. I had security with me and

56:23

these people went on. It was like a little small, little scrumming

56:25

skirmish. So from there, um, I

56:28

think t I put me on the phone shot and what

56:32

I'm saying TI, um

56:35

like shot it should be coming, shot,

56:37

I'm ready to ye to

56:41

take it. M

56:44

somebody from Grand Hustle at the time. It put

56:46

me in Maine on the phone after the fact, let's just give

56:49

out of props whatever, imagine.

56:52

And I was just and we spoke

56:54

and I was just telling him like my truth, like yo,

56:56

bro, like I'm going through it like then, you

56:59

know, like it's like I'm in a

57:01

I'm in a wild space, like you know what I'm

57:03

saying, Like something happens, you know

57:05

what I'm saying, Things have happened to me that I don't really

57:07

reflecting me. And I just don't want to feel like, you know what I'm

57:09

saying, people feel that it's like they

57:11

can just try me in any moment, you know what I'm saying, just talking

57:13

to him, and he was like, yo, Birke, I perspect you, um,

57:17

but I don't like the people that you're hanging around, like

57:19

they don't mean no good for you. And like he gave

57:21

me some game and I was like, yeo, I appreciate

57:23

that, bro. And then ship. When

57:26

I hung up the phone, I never forget. I was riding in my

57:28

motherfucker range Rob and

57:31

uh he just

57:33

started doing interviews and started talking about the

57:35

incident to due that he was talking about he

57:38

may know, just went and the interviews and talked

57:40

about the incident. I

57:45

don't know, like this is my recollection, you know what I'm

57:47

saying, Like I thought on some g ship we had spoke

57:49

after the fact that this is the next day, and like

57:51

I was looking at him like a big homie,

57:54

you know what I'm saying. So, but

57:56

I mean they kind of like went I was,

57:58

I was, I was hot, shifted of time. So they kind

58:00

of win, and you know, used it

58:03

for the beneficial of them. You know what I'm

58:05

saying. It's super lack for lack of because

58:07

I don't really really know. But why

58:09

did you even have problems? I didn't.

58:12

I don't have no problem with trick. Trick my

58:14

brother wanted, well somebody

58:17

that was a part of my entourage who is also still

58:19

my brother that I really respect. Um, they

58:22

had an issue and I was just

58:24

a casualty of that. I never met

58:27

that. I never met that man in Detroit,

58:29

in Chicago, like Jersey and New York,

58:31

I never met that man of damn my life. I

58:33

don't know. I don't know him. We've never

58:35

spoken words or anything. I was just

58:37

a casualty because I was the star. So

58:40

say you're norry saying your man it

58:42

gets into it with something and y'all go shoot

58:44

somebody or do some crazy ship it falls

58:47

all on you. You know what I'm saying, And

58:50

that was the whole situation. So imagine

58:52

them. You know what I'm saying, like actually had

58:55

nothing to do with me. You don't even

58:57

understand where it's coming from. I ain't know, dude. I know

58:59

where it was coming from. It was from somebody that was in my answer.

59:02

Oh so you understood that the person in

59:04

your answer watch had committed whatever whatever

59:06

they was. I okay, I honestand

59:09

yeah, because I mean, man, you know what and

59:11

you you do it all bro. You wrote it's

59:13

like a fucking phoenix, man, Like that's

59:15

real. Ship, Bro's real. Ind

59:18

I'm a testimony. That's why I like doing it Like

59:20

this is rarely that I really do interviews or

59:22

whatever, Like it might be breakfast club or

59:25

one of the motherfucker's of this, but dream

59:27

chances like like, I really can say

59:29

everything I want people to be wanting to

59:31

know. I'm just an open book, and I think

59:34

that's the disperation for other

59:36

motherfucker's. You know what I'm saying. Not one incident

59:38

that had me scared, it's one incident that had

59:40

me scared at all the incidents,

59:43

like like I kind of mind my business because that's just

59:45

the person I am. But after pop

59:47

smoke, right, there

59:50

was a something about your house. Some

59:53

girls invited. And

59:55

now, like all the other

59:58

incidents, me and you, we knew each

1:00:00

other, but we didn't know each other. And through

1:00:02

that, like you know, seeing you engage, we

1:00:04

developed a relationship. We changed it, changed

1:00:07

numbers. This was the first time I got I got

1:00:09

nervous, right, because everything else

1:00:11

that kind of looked like propaganda. But after pop

1:00:13

smoke, I forget what happened. It was something that

1:00:15

a girl called police to you, to

1:00:17

your normal girl called gangsters

1:00:20

to your house. I mean, um,

1:00:24

all right, I'll explain that situation

1:00:27

because um, I'm just transparent,

1:00:29

like the truth of the truth. So that

1:00:32

girl I was dealing with, you know what I'm saying. She wasn't

1:00:34

my girlfriend and nothing like that, Like she was somebody

1:00:37

I was cool with. We just had a sexual relationship.

1:00:39

Like she put up on me. We smash

1:00:42

and we keep it moving. They've never been never

1:00:45

been to the studio, we've never been on a date.

1:00:47

We never had no interactions of

1:00:50

any sort of that. So I

1:00:53

hadn't spoke to it for a while and like she was on Instagram

1:00:55

live and I

1:00:58

just like, this is the first is the quarantine? So

1:01:01

like we was. I was in the house all day, like yeah,

1:01:03

no, no, I

1:01:06

was in the house all the day. I

1:01:14

don't think. I don't know why I said four I

1:01:19

was. I was basically in the house all

1:01:21

day, like being creative, thinking

1:01:23

about samples, shopping, going back and forth with

1:01:25

co producers. I had drink and like

1:01:28

day drinking, you know what I'm saying, Like just just

1:01:30

having a vibe about the pool type ship. So,

1:01:33

um, I fell asleep early,

1:01:35

like like seven, I woke up into in the morning

1:01:38

and then um, she uh she was

1:01:41

on Instagram lib I sent

1:01:43

like a little emji and then she would she

1:01:45

text me like I haven't seen you in a wild babe,

1:01:48

Like let me pull up on you. So I sent up

1:01:50

within my crib and she

1:01:52

got to my crib and I put the alarm

1:01:55

on in my house and like,

1:01:57

uh, we was just in the house chilling,

1:02:00

and I think I said something to

1:02:02

it like and then she was like, yo, say

1:02:04

it again. I don't remember what, and then she slapped the ship

1:02:07

out of me. So

1:02:09

now like I'm seeing stars and

1:02:12

this is not your usual relationship like like

1:02:16

that. I

1:02:19

certain like and

1:02:25

I'm telling this story for anybody that's in l

1:02:27

A because l A is this ship treacherous. Right

1:02:29

now, you're

1:02:32

saying, Yo, I'm scared. I got PTS.

1:02:34

I can't even really entertained a woman like I

1:02:36

got security twenty four hours day. I can't. You

1:02:38

know what I'm saying. I'd like the Chinese guys. Sorry,

1:02:42

I just feel like he's gonna kick somebody head. Sorry,

1:02:47

shout bro, Sorry, I just

1:02:49

feel like I just feel like he's a he's a right guy.

1:02:51

He's a right guy security.

1:02:54

Yeah, he's gonna kick somebody

1:02:57

head off. I'm telling keeping it real,

1:02:59

bro, long

1:03:01

story short, like she slapped me. I

1:03:03

pulled my phone out because you know

1:03:06

these times like I got cameras all in my house everybody,

1:03:08

but you know these times we live in and ship just going

1:03:10

on right now. That's how you showed down or whatever

1:03:12

she said. You threw out some footage. You said,

1:03:14

look at the y'all gonna pick you

1:03:18

killed that. But

1:03:23

I mean, you know, like at

1:03:26

the end of the day, like yeah, so

1:03:28

from they was trying it was it was three guys,

1:03:31

was three yallars. She was showing up okay,

1:03:34

and there was three guys with guns and ship

1:03:36

like that trying to come and kick in my crib

1:03:38

and I had the alarm on and then

1:03:40

you know, and like the crazy thing

1:03:42

is like when

1:03:45

it was happening, instead

1:03:47

of her being like a girl that

1:03:50

was in the midst of a home

1:03:52

invasion, like I was like, she was fighting

1:03:54

me. She trying to

1:03:56

fight me. She punched me again when it happened,

1:03:58

So I was like people, Yeah, yeah,

1:04:01

bro, it was Bro. I'm still like

1:04:03

I'm still dealing with PTSD from that ship.

1:04:05

I'm trying to charge for you. Bro. That's that's you

1:04:07

shouldn't went through that, Bro. You worked too

1:04:10

hard. Bro. Yeah, So is this

1:04:12

girl from l A or she wished from Rancho Cucamonica.

1:04:15

She from l A. Let me tell you the craziest

1:04:17

ship he goes. He goes the craziest

1:04:19

ship. So that happened immediately,

1:04:23

like you know, like I lawyered

1:04:25

up, you know what I'm saying, got all this ship and

1:04:28

I came down here to Miami and just laying

1:04:30

low and fucking

1:04:33

uh I casually

1:04:35

like I'm cool with pop

1:04:38

smoke girlfriend or whatever. You

1:04:41

know what I'm saying, wrest in peace, and she

1:04:45

had hit me like yeo, like the same

1:04:48

dude, dog Yeah, bro, wow,

1:04:52

that's why I don't even want to talk no more about that. I

1:04:55

get it, I get it, I get it. But that's the reason

1:04:57

why it was the same week it got listen

1:05:00

before you. You don't even have to get

1:05:02

into it. You don't have to say no more. That's

1:05:04

what I felt. I felt like because

1:05:07

I don't. I just I just felt that I felt

1:05:09

that. I'm sorry, bro, I'm sorry. I don't know. I

1:05:12

was holding at you, I was checking on you. Hopefully

1:05:14

you've got those messages. I appreciate.

1:05:17

You know. My phone was like I had to cut the phone

1:05:19

off because you know, it was too much

1:05:21

like going off because it's like I

1:05:23

don't subscribe

1:05:26

to people. I'm sorry to cut you off, but

1:05:28

I don't try to keep that. I don't know exactly,

1:05:32

damn, but describe

1:05:34

how real that is in l A. Because most people

1:05:36

say, you think most people think

1:05:39

you could go to l A. You go avoid the gangs,

1:05:41

hang out the soul house, hang out their

1:05:43

motherfucking you know, uh fucking

1:05:46

h ivy. You know what I'm saying, And

1:05:51

and boy

1:05:53

hang out both Dantanna's

1:05:57

no more the then you could do that and then

1:05:59

you go avoid the gangs and whatever. But well,

1:06:01

godless of what when youre in l A, you evolved

1:06:03

with politics. I don't even know if it's gangs

1:06:06

or whatever. You know what I'm saying, because all the bloods

1:06:08

and crypts. You know what I'm saying, like that the people that

1:06:10

I know that's bloods and crips like shout

1:06:13

out to big you, shout out to you know what I'm saying,

1:06:15

Like like we said whack one, honey. But

1:06:20

everybody CRIB and l A gets tempered

1:06:22

with it at some point. Yeah, because

1:06:25

one person I don't know I'm

1:06:28

not even talking about, like people

1:06:31

who moved to l A. They

1:06:33

even the game crip at one point, I think

1:06:35

that ship trendy right now, Like I think that's just the

1:06:37

thing. Wow, what is trying

1:06:39

to with Crib? Just scary

1:06:42

though, you know what I'm saying, because it's like, think about

1:06:44

it, what you

1:06:46

want you come in my carib one.

1:06:50

I might have a you might have something some

1:06:52

jury on you, but most of the ship put

1:06:54

up being only that everything

1:06:56

is insured. Yeah, then I'm hiding

1:06:58

my ship like a nigger. Of course, this chain

1:07:01

is in a jacket pocket in the guest

1:07:03

room or something like that. Like I'd be losing the ship

1:07:06

myself. I

1:07:08

can't tell you where the ship. Yeah, so

1:07:10

you want to you want to kill and

1:07:13

along going off the police on the way. Ah,

1:07:17

what you're gonna do on our point? Crazy?

1:07:19

Oh God bless you, yo, bro man, Now we got to

1:07:21

take a shot to that, because

1:07:24

you know what, when I see you

1:07:26

know, you know, you know. I got a friend,

1:07:28

right and he's

1:07:31

here. If he wants to claim this story, he can

1:07:33

claim this story. But he doesn't have to claim

1:07:35

this story at all. But I got a friend,

1:07:37

and I really wanted to pursue. He

1:07:39

had to check the cane to his christ. I

1:07:42

feel like he

1:07:45

was, Nah,

1:07:50

come on, I don't like to win this story, tender.

1:07:57

That's why you

1:08:00

don't gotta clay you. But

1:08:05

I said, yo, let's get to private detective.

1:08:08

I wanted to follow to y'all. I

1:08:11

wanted to see if she continues

1:08:13

to do this type of ship.

1:08:17

They think the police knows that, but

1:08:19

listen, I actually wanted to a documentary

1:08:22

be about these but not

1:08:25

in their favor, not in their favor

1:08:27

I'm talking about like I want to follow them, act like

1:08:30

that we're reporters and whatever whatever,

1:08:32

but they don't really know that we're setting them. They're

1:08:34

lying the funk up. I'm

1:08:36

sorry I went I never wanted to be in that

1:08:39

situation. That ship was so unfortunate.

1:08:41

I would never wish that ship or nobody that ship

1:08:44

like a nightmare, like a movie, like I don't even know

1:08:46

how to move after the fact. You know what I'm saying,

1:08:48

We're gonna We're gonna start a revolution, but

1:08:52

you know our own bitch, We're

1:08:55

gonna set them back up. Listen, I'm gonna watch

1:08:57

all right, I gonna come out of the documentary and three

1:09:00

is you think I'm bullshit? I'm finding

1:09:02

a bit right. That bitch that

1:09:05

was came to Aventure. It's gonna

1:09:07

care. I don't know

1:09:09

how. I'm sorry, yo

1:09:14

yo home. Let's way for the FEN, should we It's

1:09:16

wait for your fen. That's way for her fense, so we can do it

1:09:18

and then we're gonna go into positive ship. So sorry,

1:09:21

but I had to get this out there because I'm a journalist. I'm

1:09:24

a fernalist. You know what I'm saying. I

1:09:27

went too far. No you didn't go too far.

1:09:29

You didn't go too far. When who's the department? Maybe

1:09:33

we're talking that's

1:09:37

my But

1:09:40

this is great, This is great. This islet

1:09:43

just say, y'all know this is great media.

1:09:46

This that's what it is. It's real talk. You

1:09:48

know what I mean. You came see me yesterday,

1:09:50

we were sitting down, we drink, and

1:09:53

you really it's a kill a guy. Yeah, that's

1:09:55

very that's very because to kill us

1:09:57

aggressive drink. Now, it's not hannessy,

1:10:00

it's an aggressive drink. I don't drink. Honestly, I don't know why you

1:10:02

That's

1:10:04

what I'm saying. In my car used

1:10:07

to carry

1:10:14

who are you talking about? Before the shot? Shot?

1:10:17

So? Was it was right? It was that wrong? Was right?

1:10:21

I didn't I just said someone random solo.

1:10:24

Yeah. Hm,

1:10:35

I'm not gonna lie. I

1:10:38

have a kamplaint. We've

1:10:40

been doing this for quite time. We

1:10:43

know at some point we're gonna take

1:10:45

a shot. Why doesn't

1:10:47

nobody chill the bottle? None of our

1:10:49

bottles are chilled. Yeah, I'm not gonna

1:10:52

lie. In Columbia, White, you haven't had COMMI White, Columbia.

1:10:58

Let me tell you something. If you want to slip cocaine

1:11:01

without slipping cocaine. Just hit

1:11:03

that Columbia works. That is a bit

1:11:05

of my liquor right here. I

1:11:08

want the ending. No tequila,

1:11:13

it's just all yeah, it's

1:11:18

the national drink of Colia. Practice.

1:11:20

Yeah, you've never been a Columbia. Nah

1:11:24

on the outro. Maybe No,

1:11:27

I'm not gonna likes him crazy.

1:11:29

I love him on my when I swear

1:11:33

he's one of my closest friend, I love him. But when

1:11:35

it comes to that, I agree

1:11:37

with him promoting it, but I want

1:11:39

him to chill it. That's all

1:11:42

put two. I'm bugged

1:11:44

that you never heard of you never

1:11:46

had Columbia, bitch. Come on, bro, you

1:11:50

never heard you not thing

1:11:52

down. Bro, you never never had I

1:11:56

drinks. But

1:12:00

you know, it's just like Ganya from Puerto Rico to It's

1:12:03

the same as Kanya. Listen. Listen is

1:12:06

very similar. It's the process

1:12:09

before rom young Bird and everything. Man,

1:12:11

trust me, brot I

1:12:13

know this roller decks man, I took me. I know

1:12:15

I know the dregs he took down. Bro, he don't even

1:12:17

want to he don't even want to make some of that. I like

1:12:20

it. I like that. That's what makes some But

1:12:24

you ever thinking like certain envisions with you

1:12:27

just for the beats, because I mean

1:12:29

I would take it just for the yea

1:12:32

like now like you know,

1:12:34

like it's it's it's it's women that hit me up

1:12:36

that like one of um like

1:12:40

well damn no, Like I've experienced

1:12:42

artists, right, not some random chick that's

1:12:45

just all suddenly want to be an artist. It's weird because

1:12:47

of like I'm taking to either story, like

1:12:50

there's a surge of female m

1:12:52

c s now, you know what I'm saying, So, like

1:12:55

I think there are a lot of women think that it's possible.

1:12:57

You know what I'm saying, upcoming girls. It's girls you

1:13:00

don't even know of. You know what I'm saying. I

1:13:02

meet women that I'm attracted to that I'm

1:13:05

actually trying to date, and then they'll

1:13:07

be like but I rap

1:13:09

two. So I don't

1:13:11

know if like I'm getting at this point they try to

1:13:14

take you, I don't know, you

1:13:16

know what I'm saying. Like it's weird because like

1:13:19

it's like a mind gag because like are you it's

1:13:21

just a business meeting or like a

1:13:24

business meeting, like are you here

1:13:26

to like it's business way

1:13:29

Okay, So I don't don't know. It's a little weird. But

1:13:31

are you looking for love? Yeah?

1:13:34

Yeah, I'm trying to get locked down locked

1:13:37

I don't know. I'm never just gonna be with one

1:13:39

woman. Where is this show going?

1:13:41

I don't know. I

1:13:44

never know what this show is going to. You

1:13:46

know, it's fantastic. We

1:13:50

don't have enough women here coming women?

1:13:53

You know, I forgot who then inself,

1:13:56

I said, I don't think you should bring your girl? Did

1:13:58

not hear you say that? All your shows are like a niggers

1:14:02

things like we got man Pool six No fool?

1:14:06

Okay? But you know what is this hip

1:14:08

hop? And at the beginning the only business

1:14:10

that came to the parties was the business with sneakers.

1:14:15

I don't like the bitches sneakers. I like rad bottom

1:14:17

business. I'm sorry, I'm going

1:14:19

to be be barred to

1:14:26

me again. I'm sorry. Let me know that, all

1:14:28

right? So, but right

1:14:30

now you look like baby ice Cube? Really

1:14:33

baby? You know old black

1:14:37

l a, right?

1:14:41

Is that rubbing off on you? Negative?

1:14:44

You're gonna be shot town nigga for the rest of your for

1:14:46

sure that that ship is embedded in me. But I mean

1:14:49

no, I'm at late nigger too, like a lot like

1:14:51

Chicago at

1:14:55

fourteen years Yeah, yeah,

1:14:58

I'm fourteen years after you. You're a Miami,

1:15:01

Miami. They I gotta I gotta claim it. You're

1:15:03

Miami. I'll be saying, I'll be saying back

1:15:05

that up, saying

1:15:10

say yea,

1:15:17

I went to New York with that. They killed

1:15:19

me. I was like, you

1:15:22

go over there. I was like, yeah, that up, Like

1:15:31

I'll be there because

1:15:34

been that up somebody And

1:15:36

that's why they all laugh. So who the baddest beach that

1:15:38

you smash? When you say yo yo yo

1:15:40

y I have my day. What

1:15:43

I'm saying, Yeah, back in the day, like

1:15:45

when you was super thut, Like, what's

1:15:47

one? But like I

1:15:51

guess because you got me on

1:15:53

here confessing ship. I

1:15:57

ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna

1:15:59

lie. I don't like famous

1:16:01

bitches, yo, I

1:16:03

don't. I still don't. You never there's

1:16:06

not one. You're like, what are

1:16:08

you going with this? I'm

1:16:15

like, no, I

1:16:18

n man, I'm nicky man. No,

1:16:23

don't even know its man is my homie. I'm telling

1:16:25

you, Like where he from, I really know, Like

1:16:28

he's a good dude, like a lot of I

1:16:30

don't know. I don't know, but I never knocked I never I

1:16:32

never really knocked down famous business. Um,

1:16:35

I never. I wasn't into the points I like. I

1:16:37

like famous, regular bitches famous,

1:16:40

That's what I like that I was. That's

1:16:42

like Instagram. I was in the Megan Stadion

1:16:45

from forty projects, you know, not

1:16:47

Megan stuff. You know what I'm saying from

1:16:49

one fight too now,

1:16:57

I say from

1:16:59

high Lea. You know that's the type

1:17:01

of y'all video vixing famous

1:17:04

one back in the day, some famous video vixing.

1:17:06

No, you know, I would even called the little one a little crazy

1:17:08

on the video soup. That's that's one for

1:17:11

the Hurricane Cup Hurricane

1:17:13

I was quarantining quarantine

1:17:19

like sexy. Can I

1:17:22

believe you bring me ecstasy too? I don't like, I

1:17:25

don't ecstasy.

1:17:30

And he don't mean to act like he was. My dad never

1:17:32

did I was.

1:17:35

I never did, even

1:17:38

sitting back like you calling stock like

1:17:41

why you right? We

1:17:47

put a lot of people, Yeah,

1:17:52

he was. The play was one stop, one

1:17:54

stop with Miami. It kind of was

1:17:57

one stop. But this is the crazy about

1:17:59

ear Fin. He's gonna give you ecstasy, he's

1:18:01

gonna give you marijuana. Be's gonna get sixteen

1:18:03

from you. It's going to have the portable

1:18:06

book had

1:18:09

a portable booth. No, you

1:18:12

don't understand what I'm saying. Back in the day, we

1:18:14

had a two inch rail eight It's

1:18:16

like a dork. It was like you had to like, you know, a

1:18:18

door, I said, dark a doorf like

1:18:21

a door like a little people. Look,

1:18:24

you had to pick it up. That's

1:18:26

the record. And

1:18:28

this guy had the only portable student. I never

1:18:31

I never asked him, how

1:18:33

the funk you don't have an eight inch doorf

1:18:35

with you? You got the motherfucking recorded

1:18:38

student that moves everywhere. He got it. He

1:18:40

got classic freestyles from me. I don't even remember

1:18:43

doing. I know he

1:18:45

got like two albums worth the material, But

1:18:51

do you remember you don't even remember the rails

1:18:54

because you're too young, you

1:19:00

know. Super Thrug was one one one verse

1:19:03

cap like he

1:19:06

knows he likes this too. That's why he's take cap because

1:19:08

he wants me to tell this cap

1:19:13

one each two

1:19:16

verses, how many verses on verses? All

1:19:18

three verses was the same tape, just

1:19:21

straight through. We didn't know how to do what

1:19:23

take was that. I

1:19:26

ain't gonna lie. He might got me on that and who's

1:19:28

that singing in the background. Is that Kalise? That was

1:19:30

not Calise, never was Kalise.

1:19:34

I apologize for people who think that's Kalise

1:19:36

because Plie came later. But who's that? Damn

1:19:40

you look Google man, you people

1:19:44

guests in in front of Come

1:19:46

on bro, come on, Tammy, Lucas, damn

1:19:48

you correct. So that was

1:19:50

the only part I changed on Bird is

1:19:52

when for roll gay to me, she

1:19:55

was singing. She was singing, yeah,

1:19:57

yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:20:00

don't do it ever again. But it

1:20:13

recreated that moment. So

1:20:17

I called for Road. I said, can I change

1:20:19

up to say what? Why? What?

1:20:24

He was like, of course, and he did

1:20:26

that. And the thing is, I told you this yesterday,

1:20:28

but I'm gonna say it again. That's how I used to count

1:20:31

bars that was never supposed to be a hook what what

1:20:33

what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

1:20:35

What? To the place holder for the bars that

1:20:38

heard you back there? You still don't know how to count still

1:20:45

counterbars still

1:20:48

don't come. And

1:20:51

that's how. And it was crazy because I

1:20:53

was doing right track with colding studios, and

1:20:56

I remember I laid the

1:20:58

whole ship and I could see for Els

1:21:00

and Chad and Rob Walker and

1:21:02

people that there was a kind of amazed, like, Yo, this

1:21:04

dude just laid the hole. But that's

1:21:06

what I did, because at that time,

1:21:08

that's what I did. So I just laid it. And how

1:21:11

many takes did it take to get that one?

1:21:13

I don't want to show off, but I think that was the first

1:21:15

tape. I don't want to but

1:21:20

you went on that scene. No, definitely,

1:21:25

precacy, definitely, But I would love

1:21:27

to give the excess to the proms. Just trust me. But

1:21:30

that was that era. You had the song

1:21:32

done before you got to the studio. Now

1:21:34

let me let me explain to you. This is

1:21:36

the first day I met for I walked in

1:21:39

the studio and Sound on Sound studios. A

1:21:41

lot of people don't know about Sound on Sound studio. Sound

1:21:43

on Sound studiol was across the street from Bad

1:21:45

Boy Studios. It

1:21:47

was around the corner Biggie. It

1:21:50

was so hot at the time. Biggie didn't

1:21:52

want to use bad Boy Studios, so

1:21:54

he would come around the corner and Sound on Sound

1:21:56

with me. So it's

1:21:58

only two studios, but the Sound on Sounds students

1:22:01

upstairs and the downstairs. So Biggie

1:22:03

we have upstairs and I got downstairs and I'm

1:22:05

looking like, yo, bag, can you go back to bad

1:22:08

boy? Like I'm on the way. Too much

1:22:10

pressure the baby.

1:22:14

So anyway, okay,

1:22:16

well I was gonna bringing this up for I forgot I was going.

1:22:18

We were talking about one takes on real. So

1:22:21

I walk in there for all

1:22:24

goals. He quotes bloody

1:22:26

money to me. He goes, you all get the bloody

1:22:28

money already, cash, a lot of things, smoke, we

1:22:30

call sta, You're sneak,

1:22:33

quiet, talk about me, and

1:22:36

I'm looking. He just he knows every lyric

1:22:38

because I'm looking. I want to because I don't

1:22:40

never say. I say, New York, get the bloody

1:22:42

money, dirty cash, live niggas, smoke, we cast

1:22:45

the stash, your monkey, walk on, hunch back, sneak,

1:22:47

quiet, talk about me, gossup,

1:22:50

scared the death. When I pop up, everyone

1:22:53

says, talk about me, gossa. We

1:22:55

think you're flipping Spanish you.

1:23:00

It's a lie. I

1:23:02

said, talk about me and gossip. So

1:23:05

I was waiting for all to make that mistake,

1:23:08

and he said talk about me gossip. When I looked

1:23:11

and I said, he's on

1:23:14

and what mind you? Soon as he finished,

1:23:17

he told me I'm not a thug at all. He

1:23:20

told him, Yes, it is the most verse

1:23:23

I've ever spit. He's like, I'm

1:23:25

not a thug at all. He's like, I have one

1:23:27

thug bone in my body. And I was like,

1:23:29

I like this guy immediate because I

1:23:31

like that, like keep it real. They

1:23:34

played me one beat, play me another beat, and he said this other

1:23:36

beat, don't listen to. And that's

1:23:38

when I got on the plane landed in

1:23:40

Miami Kid Hotel. But never forget it. They

1:23:42

can't I wash

1:23:48

it when it was still trash. It was

1:23:50

dope trash. It was. It was that

1:23:53

time that we did the interview with academic.

1:23:55

Everybody know it's a kid hotel, Okay,

1:23:59

I don't. I don't know what every Yeah, I

1:24:02

just went. I know. I went downstairs and all

1:24:04

my nigas was so happy being

1:24:06

downstairs because they didn't realize

1:24:08

that every miss they told to was a hooker.

1:24:11

They didn't realize that. I realized that. I

1:24:14

realized the earlier on I looked at the chicken.

1:24:17

Chick said you don't want the party. I said, Uh,

1:24:19

it's either party means either coke gang whatever.

1:24:23

Party. You not with that? And

1:24:29

I didn't got so. I

1:24:31

remember the room, but it was remember

1:24:33

the I played the seed and

1:24:36

it's the first time I've ever seen that the producer

1:24:38

made a beat for me. It's just that man,

1:24:40

well, you know, And

1:24:43

I was just like I had just I had

1:24:45

just google the English Channel

1:24:48

and I was like, the English Channel people run

1:24:50

and swim, do ship like this,

1:24:53

and my man just died. So a lot of people don't

1:24:55

understand what I'm saying. In the first of

1:24:57

all, I say, I light a candle, light

1:25:00

the camera because my friend just died. Run

1:25:03

laps around the English Channel and

1:25:05

that tunes. I got a cock of span you. At

1:25:07

the time, you was

1:25:09

a pistol, so we was naming

1:25:12

it. So a lot of it was just like this,

1:25:14

think it don't make no sense, stupid

1:25:21

the bridge that this isn't like style

1:25:24

that was after I

1:25:27

can see that might have been the greatest question I've ever

1:25:29

got, asked, bro, hold On, I have no idea,

1:25:31

Bro, that has to be for us doing I could see that being

1:25:34

for us doing that. He didn't ask.

1:25:36

He didn't ask that. He asked, wasn't there

1:25:39

as I'm laying the verse because

1:25:41

he said the hook like it

1:25:46

if I didn't think it was there, I kind of I can

1:25:48

now that you say it because you sold me up

1:25:51

that it was such a great question. Is

1:25:54

I think it was dead when you're saying you recorded

1:25:56

superdrug here? No I

1:25:59

recorded. I wrote super Thug in the

1:26:01

kids Hotel. I wrote it straight. Sometimes I

1:26:03

heard somebody saying,

1:26:05

listen at this time, Pete

1:26:09

Rock, you know they're

1:26:11

not doing beats for you. That's that they're saying.

1:26:13

You come to the studio, you do a beat for me. For all,

1:26:15

did a beat for me without me being the

1:26:17

studio. And let's be clear, that's

1:26:20

very cocky and confident of him.

1:26:22

He put my name on it like he's

1:26:25

going to take it that that

1:26:27

was hard. And I looked and I had the number

1:26:29

one record in New York. I thought it was the number one

1:26:32

in the world because I found like New York the

1:26:34

world in

1:26:37

New York everywhere else

1:26:40

and when it was

1:26:42

like and that was a groundbreaking record because someone

1:26:45

from New York, that record sound like a South That

1:26:47

was a South record on

1:26:52

that motherfucker. Yeah, listen

1:26:55

to me. So I think this nig is

1:26:57

a motherfucker's smart dude. I don't gonna

1:26:59

stop saying that. We gotta stop it now

1:27:07

that goes you're bringing it out of me right now, I'm

1:27:09

blaming you all the way. I'm

1:27:17

that's a joke. Everybody knows we're joking. But I'm

1:27:20

not gonna lie when I did that

1:27:23

and I've seen because what

1:27:26

what was made up? I'm

1:27:28

gonna say something I probably never said before we

1:27:34

did L A L A the record. I

1:27:36

was disgusted in this session because,

1:27:40

and I'm saying this will all due respect, but

1:27:42

every one of these guys are hyper

1:27:45

dudes. But at the time

1:27:47

Niles was winning so much, everybody

1:27:50

wanted to be smooth. So everybody

1:27:53

versus like, have

1:27:57

you ever been to Queensbridge? There's

1:27:59

not a smooth person. There's

1:28:03

not a smooth So that's what what once was?

1:28:06

What what? What? What? What? Just looking

1:28:08

like y'o what the funk? Why

1:28:11

y'all acting like it

1:28:13

translated? I made some money

1:28:15

off it, but

1:28:20

shout out to for real he produced it. Ship out that motherfucker,

1:28:22

Like I was saying a story like how you

1:28:24

ain't even know this and know that I've

1:28:27

experienced them type of situations like I've been

1:28:29

that, Like that was the hook

1:28:31

and then if he comes. The hook is

1:28:34

the time when you like artists

1:28:37

doubted you and you had to like tell

1:28:39

them that you please trust me as

1:28:41

a producer. As a producer, I

1:28:44

know there hasn't been plenty of times once.

1:28:47

Uh. I

1:28:49

think I did a joint project with Jared Minds

1:28:51

had all the sign or whatever that was just like a producer

1:28:54

we got I feel like involved.

1:28:57

Yeah it's um it's a song called

1:28:59

the Light that um I'll

1:29:01

produced with A on keys shout out to a on keys.

1:29:04

And then we did the record and they

1:29:07

kind of like didn't want it to be the single or

1:29:09

like you know what I'm saying, and um, not

1:29:11

they but j J probably Jeremiah

1:29:14

was like I don't think it should be the single, but like I kind

1:29:16

of forced the hand and that record

1:29:18

got a plaque to it, you know you know what I'm saying.

1:29:20

So, but the job with you, jeremiad

1:29:25

changed my life. Jeremiah's like the

1:29:28

Jeremiah Big Sean hook Big

1:29:31

Sean bounced back back. We

1:29:33

did. Uh we did that in my house.

1:29:35

Yeah, show out to Jeremiah, like he

1:29:38

changed my life. Man Like after loving

1:29:40

hip hop, like I was feeling like

1:29:42

I was getting the cooties again twice.

1:29:46

Yeah, I was like I was getting the coo. I definitely

1:29:48

had the Coolies four and then Jeremiah

1:29:52

like took me on tour with him and yeah,

1:29:55

he went on tour with j Cole, Big Sean

1:29:58

and h y G. And that's how I met

1:30:00

Big Sean. I was able to get him the song bounce

1:30:02

Back or whatever. Jeremiah like,

1:30:05

he changed my hands down it. My life

1:30:07

as hit maker wouldn't be the same without Jeremiah.

1:30:10

Let's make a no for Jeremiah. By

1:30:14

the way, Jeremiah, don't think I

1:30:16

forgot Jeremiah did a record with me. I forget

1:30:18

who produced the record. Was it S

1:30:20

P. K Or or

1:30:22

Charlie Brown. He did a record for me and

1:30:25

he helped me down bro. I tried to evoid someone

1:30:27

to like give it what's up? And he just like, I got

1:30:29

your record with you with Jeremiah,

1:30:32

you're scared to put it out like

1:30:36

you're scared by

1:30:39

the way I like his segments. Scott's

1:30:43

good man, you ain't

1:30:46

gonna lie. It's your time for you

1:30:48

to have your own podcast, to

1:30:50

be honest, because you know why, I don't

1:30:53

gotta beat the stories out of you. You liked

1:30:55

story, you like it, and

1:30:59

I'm telling you that's that's a gift

1:31:01

that's a gift. Because I'm

1:31:04

gonna be honest, I'm

1:31:07

starting to listen to people who have only

1:31:09

fans. I

1:31:13

thought, are

1:31:15

you listening to people?

1:31:18

But the people that have this, people own it is not naked.

1:31:21

And I'm like, yeah, that's Patreon, that's another form

1:31:23

of Patreon. I don't know what one of them

1:31:25

apps that if you got only fans,

1:31:28

you ain't naked, go kill yourself. There's

1:31:30

a lot of people

1:31:32

that's not naked. Especially think

1:31:36

about think about thinking about if you every tweet

1:31:38

you you tweet it right, and you can get

1:31:42

hunted something to tweet

1:31:44

right, and that should

1:31:46

just keep piling. But you're not thinking about it that

1:31:49

I'm thinking, like, I'm not saying I'm getting

1:31:51

only I'm about to say you are. You

1:31:55

sound like you crazy? But

1:31:59

my point is not only fans. My point

1:32:01

is for podcasts. My point

1:32:04

is the same way you on Twitter, the same way

1:32:06

you want fucking Facebook and Instagram. You're

1:32:08

just getting a like or whatever whatever

1:32:10

if you sit, because that's what the podcast is.

1:32:13

A podcast is like, let me just talk to my people.

1:32:16

People. I can't talk that much stories.

1:32:19

I'm killing you. You

1:32:22

have been doing a great job. Do

1:32:29

you think that y'all my favorite podcast.

1:32:32

Let me tell you something because I'm being honest

1:32:34

with you. You live an interest in life, bro,

1:32:37

and most people. I love

1:32:39

the fact that you wake up every day, not

1:32:42

only because you're rich. But people

1:32:46

try to control your narrative, meaning

1:32:48

they try to make you your last situation.

1:32:51

So if your last situation was what,

1:32:54

let me just say my secar or

1:32:56

something right like I went in that,

1:33:00

I'm sorry, but they try to define't

1:33:03

wait wait yeah

1:33:05

good, they're

1:33:16

trying to define you as that, So you want my se are

1:33:18

good? I love my secre.

1:33:21

We just went to Mr Child's and then we went

1:33:24

the studio. My daughter's

1:33:31

that I did. I love her. I love her daughter

1:33:34

like you know what I'm saying. Like a daughter is like a start

1:33:36

to me, you know what I'm saying. But Maska is

1:33:38

also like she's your boss a bit and

1:33:41

you're never gonna get married, right, you know

1:33:44

you have no ship? No, I

1:33:48

don't want I want to contract. I want to

1:33:50

do the contract. I'm cool. I

1:33:52

cannot. I could be married, but not

1:33:55

legally that

1:33:59

way, I don't have to, you know, pre number

1:34:01

you know what I'm saying, Like a offender. One Dr

1:34:03

dre outside right now, you see how outside

1:34:06

that sloop?

1:34:09

You see the flaw

1:34:14

I love, I love, y'all. Was

1:34:18

my man said to be nine, But didn't

1:34:20

you just see the bitch with him? Why

1:34:23

y'all on the lor laying down with your

1:34:25

elbows up. Your

1:34:27

elbow was out way too fair. That was a

1:34:32

great man. I'm with that, but he'd

1:34:34

be up. But that's what I'm saying. I think, like you

1:34:37

gotta like like falling like deep love get

1:34:39

funked up and then you have your daughter

1:34:42

Like it ain't no deep, No, this

1:34:44

love ship ain't deep. This ship is

1:34:46

just a business like this. These

1:34:48

girls wants you when you got something and

1:34:51

we ain't got nothing on wants you. And then it's a rare

1:34:54

percentage that I actually

1:34:57

down or whatever. But like I ain't gonna lie, like

1:34:59

I've live majority of my life in a public

1:35:01

form or whatever, and like I've

1:35:04

been me for so it's hard for me

1:35:06

to gauge or say like is

1:35:08

it because you know what I'm saying, Like you

1:35:10

know how certain people be like, man, I know my

1:35:13

girl loved me ship, I ain't had nothing when

1:35:15

you're when you got money

1:35:18

and then you meet a girl it's kind of hard to you know what I'm

1:35:20

saying. Shot, So it's one

1:35:22

of them. Jesus, So I'm gonna be by myself.

1:35:24

However, yeah no, but like like

1:35:27

a bunch of vibes, don't you know what I'm

1:35:29

saying? You watch the shot? No,

1:35:34

very never

1:35:36

watched the shot and you formed the cargo.

1:35:38

It's good. Where's

1:35:44

your friends at right now? Hold on, come over

1:35:46

here, brother, You watch the shot? All

1:35:48

right? Cool? Yo?

1:35:50

Wait a minute, what do you

1:35:53

say to

1:35:57

the company. But I mean, I

1:35:59

expect Billy to watch this shot like Billy is

1:36:01

fucking Billy is, and Jack like he does

1:36:03

everything expect shot.

1:36:07

No, man, you gotta expect me to be in the studio, give

1:36:11

me radio and keep killing. Honest, we all

1:36:13

got a little vices. We all got our little

1:36:15

thing. Listen, this is one thing that I need

1:36:18

you to support from your own city. I

1:36:22

don't check it out. I'm

1:36:24

not gonna lie. I feel like I'm in your

1:36:26

city every Sunday. Really,

1:36:29

it's one of them. Oh you know, you know I'm black and Porter

1:36:31

weekend. You know, like I have my cousins

1:36:34

from one side of Chicago

1:36:37

and my cousin from the other side called the street

1:36:39

from each other. But one is black and one is quarter week

1:36:41

in thirty years never death

1:36:45

serious. I come to the shot and like, holy

1:36:47

shit, you're my cousin. Like, listen,

1:36:52

that ship is don't

1:36:54

want to watch the shot? Okay,

1:36:58

yeah, then you gotta stop watching fucking shows,

1:37:00

brol What the fund do I want? I don't even do

1:37:03

you watch it? I don't watch TV, bro, you

1:37:05

don't watch TV. I just work. My whole life

1:37:07

is dedicated to No. I

1:37:11

mean I just get on YouTube. You

1:37:13

point no,

1:37:22

you know I can't believe anybody because

1:37:24

we know what this would happened. The other day,

1:37:27

I'm watching the shot. This is

1:37:29

how I got put onto the shop. I

1:37:31

was offended by the way Lena white homie,

1:37:34

we're gonna be gonna get holder. But

1:37:37

that's that's gotta do with this. One day

1:37:39

I'm sitting around talking and

1:37:41

a friend, I forget what friends says it. He said,

1:37:45

the shot is better than the wire? Is

1:37:49

it in the same vein of the wire? It's

1:37:53

in the same vegor But k

1:37:55

I threw a book bag at the nigg what

1:38:00

e it was next to me when he said the shot is

1:38:02

better than the white stewish and

1:38:05

he's like, I think I'm bullshit gonna

1:38:07

watch him now. He shouldn't have said it's

1:38:09

better. He should have said it, and

1:38:15

we're ahead. When you feel,

1:38:17

when you feel, you feel, nah,

1:38:19

I feel it is, Bro, I

1:38:26

can't tell you that. I can't tell you the shot is not

1:38:28

real. Bro, listen, I ain't gonna lie

1:38:30

to you because all right, so you guys been

1:38:32

to Bortomore. Obviously you guys been to Bortomore.

1:38:36

Have you guys spend time? I spend time in

1:38:38

the shot, like my half of my family, my

1:38:40

old Bato Rican family. That's the only

1:38:42

thing missing in the show is that they ain't

1:38:44

got gonna Porto Ricans. That's

1:38:47

the only thing it

1:38:50

Mexicans. Yeah, bro, it's Porto Rican and Mexican

1:38:53

people. I know. That's the only that's the only

1:38:55

thing that I have got

1:38:57

caught out of out Chappo first

1:39:00

operation was getting

1:39:04

very emotions. But holy

1:39:06

sh it, so so all right, hit me out,

1:39:08

now, hit me out. So God says this is better

1:39:10

than the wire. So I throw a book bag out

1:39:13

with books. I'm

1:39:16

just wondering. You know, it's you know his name,

1:39:18

it's probably so and

1:39:21

then so my

1:39:24

wife is watching it. So I'm like,

1:39:26

allright, cool, I'm just a hater, Like

1:39:28

I don't know want anybody. If you tell me anything,

1:39:32

it's better than Curb Your Enthusiasm,

1:39:35

Sopranos or The Wire. I

1:39:38

don't like you is the greatest show

1:39:40

of right

1:39:43

there with the right

1:39:48

Okay. Yeah. So

1:39:50

when the person says that to me and I see

1:39:52

my wife watching, then one day I just like, you

1:39:55

know what, fuck it? So I watched

1:39:57

one episode now watched it myself.

1:40:00

And if you're a person who performed

1:40:03

in the House of Blues in

1:40:06

Chicago recently, were young person

1:40:09

who went to Sammy's and compete

1:40:11

greenbrainy

1:40:14

Green, you know, unless you went to the other one.

1:40:16

I'm just I've

1:40:20

been to my give

1:40:22

me another one. They tore down Compretty

1:40:24

Green. So

1:40:30

when I used to go to complete Listen, I was

1:40:32

com pretty Green one time and

1:40:35

I pulled up in Sammy's is a chicken spot?

1:40:38

I say it on all Kelly Chip, Sorry, did Kelly

1:40:41

I used when I'm in competely Green? You know, I hit

1:40:43

Sammy's. So I went to Sammy's.

1:40:45

I came police pulling the guns on me. The

1:40:48

whole pride came out. I was like, that's normy

1:40:50

put your fucking gun down. That's

1:40:52

when I new Chicago is they

1:40:56

came out like that, and I was like that, oh ship,

1:40:59

but I still came it about week. Help

1:41:04

me, let's make around

1:41:07

this. Let

1:41:09

me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Being

1:41:11

from Chicago. The problem

1:41:14

that I think that happened in Chicago

1:41:16

is they took the ogs away. When

1:41:19

you got the Larry who was you got all these

1:41:21

people who was gang you know, and

1:41:24

they took them away. That means

1:41:26

the youngest one wild as you think that's the Chicago's

1:41:28

problem. I mean, I think

1:41:31

that that culture or what we

1:41:33

were talking about was probably like my

1:41:35

generation was probably the last

1:41:38

of it. And their kids, says

1:41:40

younger than me, they don't even know what

1:41:42

that ship means. So ain't know O G.

1:41:45

And ain't like you do. That's the problem.

1:41:48

Um No, of course I

1:41:51

think that that

1:41:54

Joe was bugs

1:41:58

all these different people that I like,

1:42:00

I have O G. Jason, I

1:42:03

got mad l A Reader's

1:42:05

old G. I got mad executive. You know what I'm

1:42:07

saying Like that, I'm not afraid to say,

1:42:09

like these people no more than me, and like I

1:42:12

look up to these people and they give me game. But

1:42:14

I don't think that these things out there

1:42:17

ain't listening to none of that trip. So look,

1:42:20

listen to the shot that ain't you ain't drinking

1:42:22

that Columbian white yea, and Catherine,

1:42:27

let's do it. You're gonna

1:42:29

do one. Yeah, I'll

1:42:31

do it, little water, but you know you gotta do it Columbian

1:42:33

way. No, I don't like that. Let

1:42:38

me get another cut. I ain't doing this. I ain't makeing

1:42:41

with the rock. Yeah,

1:42:43

I ain't gonna lie. I'm just doing this too.

1:42:46

Just do the just do the one line. Trust. Yeah,

1:42:50

that's why you gotta be a

1:42:52

little crazy us

1:42:55

Like, come on, it's

1:42:57

a different it's a different thing. I see why you point.

1:43:00

So when is the time we're gonna we're gonna

1:43:02

get this shot going? But what is

1:43:04

the time when you realize you said, you know what fund

1:43:07

this reed and model? You

1:43:10

said the line,

1:43:12

are y'all really went for the line? I

1:43:17

don't know what? So

1:43:22

what was the moment where you like, I did

1:43:24

this. I was an artist. I did reality.

1:43:27

But you know what, I'm gonna stick to my

1:43:29

motherfucking guns and produce number

1:43:32

one records for everybody. When

1:43:35

was that moment? Was it like your finger pop somebody

1:43:38

and it was a big Shane bounced back moment. It

1:43:40

was. It was a lot of moments, but Jeremiah walked

1:43:42

the hook. Yeah, it was a lot of moments,

1:43:44

man Like it was. I

1:43:46

already knew that niggas didn't

1:43:49

want to funk with me on artist ship. Like but

1:43:51

and I command anything anything that watching

1:43:54

this ship. When you realize that nigga don't funk

1:43:56

with you on some artist ship, go ahead, transition

1:43:58

ship, next thing. Maybe your next gift is gonna

1:44:00

be don't be afraid, gonna

1:44:02

way too fast down.

1:44:05

Um, So you thought people didn't foc

1:44:07

with you as an artist, Yeah, of course, Okay,

1:44:10

explain that I need expert. I

1:44:12

mean they had great records, like think

1:44:14

about it, like like to me, like

1:44:17

in my history, I was like

1:44:19

I was the first nigger down of the sing on some

1:44:22

damn auto tune before Kanye did eight

1:44:24

the Way some heartbreaks after Tea Pain or whatever,

1:44:27

and yeah yeah

1:44:30

tea Pain like after Tea Pain and

1:44:33

ship like none of my all

1:44:35

my records are as an artist are attached

1:44:38

with a plaque to him. I've

1:44:41

never not dropped the song as an artist that ever

1:44:43

had a plaque with it so, um,

1:44:46

I don't know, like people just didn't want What was the moment

1:44:48

where he was like, you know what, I'm

1:44:50

gonna just stay and it just felt like people

1:44:52

didn't want the product from me, and like

1:44:55

me always being like I always looked at

1:44:57

myself as like a Verry Gordy, Like

1:44:59

I always to myself like that's on some ball

1:45:01

ship. So like, if you think

1:45:03

about yeah, from the beginning, from the beginning, it

1:45:06

was me, my partner, Billy j it

1:45:08

was Yeah,

1:45:10

it was it was like all these producers and everybody

1:45:13

that made my initial song, they were

1:45:15

all we always had a bose

1:45:17

mentality. So it

1:45:20

was never that and I always thought about it

1:45:22

like yeo, I'm gonna beat the next the second

1:45:24

coming up, these type of situations. So I

1:45:26

was always saying, like a boss vide forever. So

1:45:29

you said you did you had something to do

1:45:31

with the Fat Joe record, because

1:45:34

now Fat Joe was my brother man, Like damn.

1:45:38

I did three records on Fat Joe

1:45:40

and or Cool and Trying Fat Joe. Which

1:45:42

one Fat Joe? Um,

1:45:49

yes, the one feature will face

1:45:52

them and the crazy said

1:45:54

and will I like like I

1:45:58

like that well,

1:46:02

so like and the crazy

1:46:04

thing about that is that Joe

1:46:07

was a cool and Dred studio and

1:46:09

like I came, I pulled up. I was

1:46:11

in a Rose Royce and I was with like four

1:46:14

girls, like we was lit.

1:46:16

We had been day drinking. I fell in the studio

1:46:19

with a that's the name of our

1:46:21

record right now, day drinking. Yeah, okay,

1:46:26

keep going, Jeremiah the hook.

1:46:28

I agree. From

1:46:30

there we was shi

1:46:34

and Joe had that record

1:46:36

cool and Dred, And then that did it and it was a different

1:46:39

structure, and like he had wrapped

1:46:41

one verse and like he had said that yes

1:46:44

as something in the verse, I

1:46:47

was like what basically Joe had

1:46:50

had Like it was right now, it was cool

1:46:52

and rad ship and like we was in there

1:46:54

and like I really went. I was like

1:46:56

Joe had an engineer and all the type of I'm

1:46:59

like you get up. I

1:47:01

set my engineer down, and Joe

1:47:03

allowed me to take his song and just basically

1:47:06

like how you said for reality, this making

1:47:08

into the hit that that yes as

1:47:10

a faith that wasn't even a hook. That's something he

1:47:13

said in the verse. I took that

1:47:15

and made it the hook. Yes,

1:47:17

I went and transferred at what he said

1:47:19

in the hook, I went and chopped it up and made

1:47:22

it into the hook we need

1:47:24

like young birds. That was our friends. Come on, brother,

1:47:29

continue, sir, continue, sir. So

1:47:31

I went chopped it up, made that the hook, and

1:47:34

I was faded that night, like we had a like

1:47:36

I was, I was. I was in my glory

1:47:40

all my splet if you worked

1:47:42

card to B as well, because you were

1:47:44

a card to be and that

1:47:47

one and we've collaped

1:47:49

me and CARDI collapsed on some ship or whatever. It ain't

1:47:51

came out though. Let's talk about

1:47:53

this so so much. Producing are

1:48:03

you gonna yo?

1:48:10

You stretch and

1:48:12

yeah, but it was what

1:48:19

what made you get in the bag, Like Afterwhids

1:48:21

was like, Yo, you know what I presented my

1:48:23

artistreet I jumped in a couple

1:48:25

of movies, I did whatever, But you know

1:48:27

what, I think I could present all

1:48:30

the people with hits. It

1:48:32

was the first one when he was like, yo, let me just make

1:48:34

this man prove this where

1:48:37

you gave a person a record. It was like, Yo, I

1:48:39

want to prove that I'm that guy. Damn.

1:48:43

It was really a lot of like Naked manis

1:48:46

was like a time for me to prove myself

1:48:48

big for us. You gotta and I

1:48:50

really wish about

1:48:53

a lot of VAM. I did a lot of records

1:48:55

on that Alpum. I wish that some of them would have been like

1:48:58

singles or whatever, like the biggest ones or

1:49:00

whatever. But if you got him, you

1:49:07

just got through talk about queens and here

1:49:11

real when I but um, I

1:49:16

got a lot of north, a

1:49:18

lot of records, Like what's

1:49:22

the record that you produced? And

1:49:24

and it didn't come out? And you want

1:49:26

to like fucking asshole,

1:49:30

m hmm drop it probably

1:49:34

my own because I'm

1:49:36

doing a producer album. You see how I did the thought

1:49:38

Box ship right, and I put like that

1:49:40

was so crazy. Like I did a song on from

1:49:42

my producer album called thought Box and

1:49:44

it was me a Buggie Tiger

1:49:47

to chains and then I

1:49:49

went and then that didn't blow up

1:49:52

like that ship. It kind of it ain't do what it's

1:49:54

supposed to do. So I was in Vegas

1:49:57

at a writer's camp for um one

1:49:59

of Chapel and like we was getting vaded, like

1:50:01

we was recording in the Palms Crossed

1:50:08

hold on. We was in Vegas.

1:50:12

They all had a stand at the Palm's Hotel.

1:50:14

So it was like me murder beas Chris Shawn,

1:50:16

like the biggest Ya.

1:50:20

This is the studio. Was in

1:50:23

the hotel, guys if niggas don't know, so

1:50:26

we was in there and we was getting lit and um,

1:50:28

I came up with the idea. I never forget. I was fucked

1:50:30

up. I'm like, man, I'm gonna put all girls on that ship.

1:50:33

But I'm not gonna go chase like the Cardi

1:50:35

Nikki. I'm gonna go put all the girls

1:50:37

that are really funk with on a record, and

1:50:40

I put them all on the record. Show I got a shot, this

1:50:42

is my shot. Put it on the record. He put the

1:50:44

girls on the record, Let's go, and

1:50:53

the song went gold. It's like a ladies

1:50:55

night. It's like one of them was on the record,

1:50:57

was on a lotto Chinese Kitty

1:51:00

getting made Drezy and dream

1:51:02

Dog. It's called

1:51:04

thought Box Shots. That's one of the biggest

1:51:07

record for the same dollars. Is probably

1:51:09

one of the hardest artists coming from New York

1:51:11

City. I love her.

1:51:13

I think she's amazing, but I respect

1:51:16

your judgment. Okay, but

1:51:19

holy minute at either go

1:51:21

ahead and take another one, don't. I

1:51:25

don't drink the line, don't do the line. Take

1:51:27

a real shot. I ain't drinking there the line

1:51:30

I was like this, I

1:51:35

was, I was talking about crack interview earlier.

1:51:39

No, no, take

1:51:41

a shot of this. I'm

1:51:45

gonna be honest. I

1:51:48

do like forty two. But Delon is

1:51:50

very batter the

1:51:53

way your faces. This

1:51:58

one. We're gonna keep it hip, kind

1:52:00

of nice. We're gonna keep you. Now. If

1:52:03

it was Kasa Zoo, I will break

1:52:05

the rules. But puff don't

1:52:07

want he don't want the nineteen forty. We

1:52:10

love, we got enough. I love Christian.

1:52:13

I'm chessing. I don't know it was good.

1:52:16

We're gonna stake. We're just take him over ball. This

1:52:19

is what we're doing. This is what we do. And

1:52:23

also shout out the ViBe's house, because

1:52:26

you know why. This is the house

1:52:28

of vibes, just

1:52:32

like seeing the hook for a supertuck

1:52:34

again, this

1:52:39

is I'm

1:52:43

getting. I'll get vibe from

1:52:45

leftover extacy from thirteen years ago. No,

1:52:50

no, it's turquoise. He

1:52:53

was my drug. I don't even like. I mean, I've

1:52:55

been mad at you, first person to put him

1:52:57

on the ex. Goddamnit be

1:53:00

right. You might be right. Luis play

1:53:02

the road like you all clean and squee I

1:53:07

play and you don't. You don't

1:53:10

fo with Champagne at all. This You're just the hard

1:53:12

court drinking. You just want to that's it.

1:53:15

Yeah, I do with Champagne. It's

1:53:17

about energy. It's about the situation.

1:53:21

So if the situation

1:53:23

proprile that

1:53:26

sounds like a drug, did

1:53:28

I go to? I gotta realize,

1:53:31

come on to open book, your transparent, open book,

1:53:36

transparency. No, all

1:53:38

right, that's good. That makes me. She's

1:53:41

that. Go be and get out Part two. You

1:53:44

see how I'm flourishing. Ask

1:53:47

you y'all, holy

1:53:51

we got weird. No,

1:53:55

but do you think that's crazy

1:53:57

that Kanye is going to march president? He

1:54:00

ran, he's running, not

1:54:03

gonna. I gotta be quiet. I want

1:54:05

to hear answer first. That doesn't

1:54:07

change the fact that he's But I don't know. I

1:54:13

mean ship it's hard to say

1:54:15

what she will and won't do when Donald Trump

1:54:17

the president of our Contry's not gonna

1:54:19

be on the ballot on every stage though, Yeah

1:54:23

no, No, he's nothing that comes a

1:54:25

lot of It's not hip hop. He's not gonna be on

1:54:27

the ballot. Be gonna bother for every state.

1:54:29

Were hip a great

1:54:32

story, You're gone? I would vote I

1:54:34

will vote for Jack, where

1:54:38

are you going with this? I honestly

1:54:40