0:11

And it's Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's

0:15

a legendary queen's rapper. He's

0:17

like, that's your boy in o R. He's a Miami

0:19

hippoper pioneer us d j e

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f N. Together they drinking up with some

0:24

of the biggest players in the

0:26

most professional unprofessional

0:28

podcast and your number one sorts

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for drunk drinks mother is

0:33

New Year's e Just time for

0:36

drink Champs. Drink up mother, motherfuck?

0:44

What did good be hope of this want should be? This is your boy in a

0:46

oh a A what up is dj e FN

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And it's a type of crazy role drink chaps,

0:51

yappy motherfucking our making up?

0:57

And I broad up now something before we have now

1:00

the people that's here, you was on vacation.

1:02

He was on vacation. And

1:06

so before we get into that, and also say

1:09

two verses, one for math and one for

1:11

the Drinks Champs album never making we're making up

1:14

to get into all that. I wanted to say happy

1:16

birthday to to our friend Russ. Where come

1:18

on, happy

1:21

gooder thing, good good friend

1:24

Russ. But right now what I like

1:26

to say, this is one of the hottest podcasts

1:29

on the street. They arguing they

1:31

started controversy. I was so happy they see

1:33

them and

1:39

I'm so proud to introduce

1:42

my extra to pinion on Motherfucker drinks.

1:47

Man, I can't I can't. You know, Math,

1:50

I'm gonna be honest with you, Math, like

1:53

I brag about you. I brag about

1:55

you because you're one of the people who actually

1:57

listen to And

1:59

I'll be like, ye, let this should be working. I'll be scared to

2:01

give him. I don't want to not work, no

2:03

more so. But guys,

2:06

you guys have been on

2:08

a road. How did how did?

2:10

How did we come here? Because I felt

2:12

it feels like the show. Let speak

2:14

about the show. It feels like the show. This is like it's

2:16

third leg, like it's a third different

2:19

iteration. Yeah, like yes, and so

2:21

so it described to the people who who well,

2:24

first, I want to say, part of me even getting

2:27

here was you believing that's

2:30

right. You know, I was the first battle rapping. I

2:36

was the first battle

2:38

rapper drinking, you know what I mean. And

2:43

and just knowing that you had that type of

2:46

um belief in

2:48

what I was doing and you put me on the platform

2:51

that you've had. Na's so

2:53

many like so many legends. That

2:56

gave me a lot of energy to just go back in and

2:58

keep it going, you know. I mean, and I found

3:01

a good crew and we're here now. How did

3:03

we get here though, because I remember it felt

3:05

like it was a different crew in the beginning. And then the

3:07

girl that was one

3:09

of the things that that you told me told

3:11

me to do, I did that. Shout out to Misfit. You know, that's

3:13

still a homie. But she went on. She had she

3:15

created her own platforms and we're

3:18

working on something with her now for the future.

3:21

Um. Yeah, and there was knowledge shout

3:23

the knowledge hip hop is real. You

3:25

know, he still covers all the battle rap events

3:27

and all that stuff, like he's the number one

3:29

in that field. Shout the Uncle Rod also,

3:32

and yeah, after that, it was kind

3:34

of like, you know, just just finding the

3:37

right niche, you know, with a with a barbershop.

3:39

Every time you walk into barbershop, you're not gonna see

3:41

the same person. So, you

3:43

know, it was like that for a little while. But I feel

3:45

like I got a good squad now and

3:48

we're here, ye here man, the

3:53

flowers off top. Give

3:56

you all your flowers, man, y'all deserve your flowers. Let's

3:58

get your flowers and we could have gavest

4:02

fucking sucks.

4:04

It's right and righting you God damn it, Jesus,

4:06

we had to see We had to see it all the gather

4:08

you got us. We don't look like experts

4:10

at all. Yeah, Jesus

4:14

Jesus did. Come on, Come on, but

4:17

I want to say the uh you

4:19

literally giving you your flowers? Come

4:21

on? You

4:27

know what it is to be in the trench? Yes,

4:31

yeah, yes, sixty,

4:35

I'm good. Yes,

4:40

is real? Wow?

4:43

So let me so let me ask you, matheo. Right,

4:46

you're coming from a journalistic background,

4:48

right, and you

4:51

now happen to be critiqued, right

4:53

because there's people who's gonna have an opinion

4:56

on you the same way you had opinions on it.

4:58

Is that something when it flips on you? Is it something that

5:01

you don't know? First of

5:03

all? Um, he was getting

5:05

picked at at the source all the time. Really, God

5:08

forbid you rate an album if if

5:10

this is your favorite rapper, y'all talk about that the other

5:12

day. I'm sorry because he don't really gave itself for

5:14

that. I'm

5:18

thinking about

5:21

love. I'm sorry. I'm sorry your

5:23

brain fart. Didn't you think we didn't get criticized

5:26

for that. No, I did not go

5:29

back then. Y'all didn't have Instagram and Twitter

5:31

and like that. So it's different actually

5:33

outside, and I was outside,

5:39

actually outside. So for

5:41

the longest time my name was Mecca from the source,

5:43

everybody knew what so I

5:46

think you saved under my phone. This is fuck

5:48

up? Here we go, hold on, hold on.

5:51

So all the drama you had to source is that where you started

5:53

doing martial arts. Here we go

5:58

trying to figure out with his cokebone really

6:00

has

6:05

you know what it is? Made my bones in there? I'm not mad

6:07

at it. But at the same time, if you ask me if critique is

6:09

something new, it's really not. I

6:11

had your favorite, your favorite rappers. Fans

6:13

were mad us for whatever

6:16

reason. Old bottle man, we can we can

6:18

get your old bottle, sir. You know what I mean. Come on,

6:20

we get money over here. Man. You try to know

6:24

it's not new, right, You're not doing at

6:26

all. If I said something bad about No Reas album,

6:28

you think his fans wouldn't show up. I

6:31

thought if all your fans

6:33

thought everything you did was classic and

6:36

we gave you four and a half, we had

6:38

to hear it. Somebody was pulling up to say something.

6:41

So that's not new at all. Get it to your

6:43

wife. That's that's the property to do it. That's right.

6:46

That's not doing at all, bro. So now

6:51

I want to ask you something because

6:53

something that came up on the show. Right, I know

6:55

you have a coach relationship with Busta

6:57

Rounds, one of my great friends. Right, and

6:59

say you know and um,

7:02

at one point you have read the villain, right. I

7:05

don't remember what he said, but he says something plenty

7:08

he said, So

7:10

how do you cross that line? Balance it between

7:13

you and Buster? Because me

7:16

working with somebody who I respect versus

7:18

their personal relationship are two

7:20

totally separate things. It's

7:22

the same. It's the same, Bro. How many people

7:25

have your man had beef with that? You didn't

7:27

have beef with I get that, but

7:30

not bust the Rise, Right. You're

7:33

not getting away that. I mean I didn't.

7:35

There was nothing to really get away from. He had not been working

7:37

together for years. So me going to him and saying, listen,

7:40

this is what this is what happened, and I talked

7:42

to math about it. We had a big, long

7:44

conversation about the whole thing. But I

7:46

wasn't working with Bus when he

7:48

was dealing with Reek, so

7:51

I don't know what their business relationship was. I don't

7:53

know what their personal relationship was. I'm

7:56

free to that man's truth is that

7:58

man's truth buster as his own

8:00

version of that story.

8:02

And no one is develling in their own story. So whoever's

8:05

telling the story, they're a good guy in

8:07

it. And I want to say, shout out the

8:09

Bus. He got mad at you too, but

8:11

he hasn't been on the show. I noticed about

8:17

the world

8:21

I late though. I like, I'm a patty dude, But what

8:23

it happens, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm sure people

8:25

come on this platform, they see certain things and then

8:28

it comes out and then your phone is right. He's like, Yo,

8:30

how you let that guy say that? And it's like, Yo, what do

8:32

you mean how they let him? Yeah,

8:36

I ain't gonna lie. The biggest version of

8:38

that recently journalism. Journalism

8:40

might be tougher than hip hop, like on

8:43

the law, they don't hear you

8:49

both. But I'm having this is I've

8:51

been the hip hop making music for

8:53

twenty years and I've only been this

8:55

going on seven ye and the

8:58

controversy when when something

9:00

goes wrong, it's a bad

9:03

day. You guys got black Twitter,

9:05

I assume, yeah, Yeah, I

9:08

love black Twitter. I love the negative ship,

9:10

I love the positives. But when

9:12

I'm going through something, I can't go on black

9:14

two

9:17

much too much. Did you receive slack

9:19

for for the Troy a Half interview? Not

9:22

just Troy av It

9:24

was a lot still besides

9:27

besides the Troy ship, it was that

9:30

that situation with Buster. Yeah,

9:32

it was shout to shout

9:35

out to self service. You know,

9:37

he told the story about just Blade

9:39

getting slapped and

9:41

I got a bunch of phone calls about that, not

9:44

from just Blaze, not from just place shot,

9:47

but shot. But just what are people saying

9:49

when you're getting these phone calls? They are they saying like you

9:51

shouldn't have that's there? I didn't see

9:53

that. And sometimes, you

9:55

know, my my thing is um unchecked

9:58

Live becomes the truth. And I'm not saying anybody

10:00

came on my platform lying. I'm

10:02

saying, if you feel like there went another

10:04

way, you know, this is entertainment,

10:07

the same way this person came to the shop and

10:09

then you know they told their story, you can tell

10:11

your story. Also, my issue

10:14

is when people get upset and

10:16

then they ignore it like they're above it when they're

10:18

not above it. Because you're upset. If

10:20

you're upset, you're not above it. You know,

10:22

there's certain things that don't bother me anymore

10:24

because I'm above it, you know what I mean. But

10:27

if it's it's irking me, then

10:29

you should. You should just set that straight, whether

10:31

it's my platform or Drake Champs or whatever

10:33

platform you want to go on. But don't just

10:36

let us sit and get mad at me for it, you

10:38

know what I mean. I understand if if

10:40

Styles has something to say. After

10:42

the Jadehood joint and then

10:44

a lot of people called me, it was like, yeah, I could

10:46

have told you that. I'm like, then why didn't you? You

10:48

know what I mean? You know what I'm

10:50

gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you

10:52

like it's like with no disrespect, Like

10:55

I could never ever even think about

10:57

interview in Cuban Lank right because

11:00

of my relationship with Fat Joe. It's just it's

11:03

just it's just it's no disrespect to him. I have

11:05

no beef, I have no quarrel, but I'm with

11:07

Joe. It's just just simple

11:09

and why I don't another No, I

11:12

can't interview Greek because of

11:14

the same thing. My relationship with Buster is

11:16

too crazy. He's told me

11:19

so. In that situation, if I was to have either

11:21

of those two brothers on, I would be wrong.

11:24

But that's personal wrong as a friend.

11:26

As media really, as

11:29

media, we're supposed to be a whole thing person.

11:31

It's supposed to be a whole media. I'm

11:34

supposed to be a

11:38

you know what I'm saying, Like

11:49

remember that at all? For me, they are certain

11:52

things did did you know? Okay?

11:55

You know my my moral standard couldn't

11:57

allow somebody who presented paper

12:00

work on someone to come on the platform

12:03

just reckless. And if you came

12:05

on the platform and you said something reckless

12:08

like I would be responsible

12:10

for that because I already saw it. You

12:12

know. It's not drinking. You know I'm drinking.

12:14

It was bade, come

12:16

on, you

12:22

know what that

12:25

was? That was the thing like you know, no,

12:28

no, no, give me something Cuban punt like I

12:30

love those guys back in the days. But when

12:32

you see certain things, it's like you got

12:36

you never did that because now it's like to

12:39

me, if you have a relationship with styles

12:41

and y'all was talking like that, then you would

12:43

be wrong. But if y'all have a regular

12:46

industry relationship, like when you see each other, you're

12:49

just a fan of, they're just a fan of. You didn't

12:51

understand, you know what I mean. But once that relationship

12:54

is like I remember, I remember Nos

12:56

getting mad at me right over over

12:59

me hanging with Mega and I'm

13:01

thought Nas at the time, I thought Nas

13:03

would wouldn't even care, but he

13:05

had expressed the feeling that like or

13:09

I like that, I like that was together,

13:11

that was together. But and at

13:14

that time I didn't agree with him nothing.

13:17

And I don't know if you've ever seen this video

13:19

John Blaze, And if

13:21

you ever look at the video, John Blaze, that's the day we

13:23

squashed it. And if you notice, I got the microphone

13:25

and I'm in the background like this, because I really didn't

13:28

understand him until recently, Like

13:30

I didn't understand that my loyalty

13:32

was supposed to be there, like it was never supposed

13:35

to be questioned. I was supposed to never especially at

13:37

that moment I've seen you had on the show. What

13:40

you know, I can't break it down because

13:42

you know, it's a little stress. I'm

13:45

not saying, but but what made

13:47

you feel like, okay, for these

13:49

reasons, he wasn't supposed to do

13:51

do that? What are the reasons? Well, the reason

13:54

was at that time, he wanted that loyalty. He wanted

13:56

he wanted me to show that I was loyal to him.

13:58

Actually ahead of time. Yeah,

14:01

actually actually kind of did no,

14:04

no, no, no. I found

14:06

out after it was like it was like whatever a picture

14:08

was. And then I found out that he didn't like us

14:10

taking a picture. Right, that's differ. But

14:12

that's tough because then you you know, you over

14:15

there being like, okay, I can't talk to you because

14:17

my friend is mad at you, and then they become

14:19

friends. But that person still remembers.

14:24

But when

14:26

that happened to me, I got I was upset.

14:30

So I'm trying to say, is if I'm

14:32

mad at somebody, shoot, I don't

14:34

want nobody around that motherfucker man who was But

14:36

I was saying that's just general. It

14:39

was

14:42

life, that's your mind, life, man. I could be mad

14:44

at anybody. I just at

14:47

the time, I'm so loyal I expect everyone to just

14:49

fall in line into that to my line. Loyal and

14:52

and it just doesn't have that and with

14:54

this, with with with this something

14:57

totally different, because honestly a

15:00

system now the nowl on the coffin. It's

15:02

like when Kanye called,

15:05

did we know he was gonna be on some crazy

15:07

ship? Nah?

15:09

I mean that's not totally true. Well

15:12

you did then come out of the the clouds, come out.

15:16

We talked about it. You

15:21

see my post before you got in contact with Kanye.

15:24

No, because the minute I heard that end of you

15:26

got canceled. No.

15:30

No, not not that one, the one we went on

15:33

Lebron's platform. Once

15:36

I found out that they wasn't putting that out, I

15:38

was all over Instagram, like Yo, Kanyea,

15:41

we're gonna do that. And then I saw

15:44

you guy. I was like, damn no, that was

15:46

That was rough fun, man. That was

15:48

a rough fun because I kind of wish

15:50

you didn't take it down though, you

15:52

know, I

15:56

gotta stand by it because it was actually

15:58

him who requested it. Take it taken

16:01

down, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And you

16:03

know, and we were between a rock and hard prison and

16:05

and Revolts still with us, and they said, we're

16:07

not gonna edit this. It either stays up, it

16:09

comes down. So we had one choice,

16:12

you know, one of two choices. Are you

16:14

working with? No,

16:16

we are the number one independent in

16:19

the world. I'm saying talking

16:22

man, we were talking. Ain't

16:25

happen yet, ain't not happened.

16:27

I know people were throwing that out. There's false

16:29

information. Don't believe them. Don't

16:31

believe them. They're unreliable sources.

16:34

How about how about you? You? What do

16:36

you feel about independent? On Masia? Independent?

16:40

Um? I feel independent

16:43

always the right way to go because you get

16:45

to bill your own narrative. You

16:47

know, when you go with major, you're going with someone

16:50

else's narrative. Not

16:52

really, Yeah, you know know what I

16:54

say I say in other cases. Yes,

16:57

when Puff Puff's case, I was

16:59

surprised, did you did the Kanye

17:01

thing after everything that was going on to

17:03

go back to Kanye and trying to get off

17:09

that keep

17:13

pushing Kanye than keep saying that verse so as exist.

17:19

But I was I was surprised because of what they

17:21

went through both um

17:23

with Kanye, what he was saying about Puff

17:26

listen honest, but yeah, tell

17:28

him because this would be honest. Year

17:30

we ever worked with, he's

17:32

never called us about an episode

17:35

this. They called me on FaceTime with

17:38

the ship playing You'll play Boy, and then

17:40

he was like, he was like, so, I'm

17:42

thinking he's gonna scream on me, Like, how are you

17:44

gonna let this guy say this this? It's a part of you

17:46

that like fun that he because he

17:49

can't have none our creativity. He can't

17:51

be a part of it. That's what we are.

17:53

We we

17:59

like I don't know if you if you the verse

18:02

I just said, I said, you know, I'm feeling good.

18:04

So what did I say? What did I say? I said, I

18:06

said it sounds like some old camera. No,

18:08

you gotta stand on, stay in there

18:10

like a tampon, I

18:13

said, rap podcast millionaire, I'm

18:15

the first one before me. They get

18:17

their youtubees for free, the I p o

18:19

S they ain't own, only me and E. And

18:31

that's gonna be another conversation I'm gonna have with you

18:33

right after the show. We

18:36

got you, man, But hold on, hold up, But be clear,

18:38

nobody is truly independent unless we own

18:40

these distribution platforms with nobody here

18:44

you partner with with with YouTube

18:46

or whatever. I'm needed is distributing to

18:49

Apple and all these people. That's that's

18:51

the problem. What was it really independent? I would

18:53

say yeah with you with YouTube somewhat,

18:55

but it's still not a uh

18:58

well then I guess they do kind of they can't.

19:00

They can take you down a partnership

19:04

if you got to see those agreements and

19:06

played by their rules, that's a partnership. Listen,

19:08

I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm ready to sell

19:10

out.

19:16

Started relaxing with

19:20

new partnership. Congratulations,

19:30

Yes, just keep cracking them doors man,

19:32

I'm gonna be honest. Yeah,

19:35

this is this, this is bad.

19:41

This was this was one of our you

19:43

know, great moves. It's a great move. I'll

19:46

be partnering with some good people. And

19:49

they showed us that they wanted us if

19:52

you know what I mean? What that so?

19:55

How much how much control do they what

19:58

kind of control do they want to exercise over your hunts?

20:00

You know about the thing about drink chat stroke

20:02

that they could end the deal if they want to. But we're

20:05

on the content. We just licensed with that

20:07

in mind, I like, how y'a flipping it on us right

20:09

now? Yeah, we don't know what's going on with

20:16

that in mind? How how what's

20:18

the what's the hardest part about interview

20:20

with somebody who's where it's going to be difficult.

20:23

We're gonna say something super I mean, you know

20:25

what, at the end of the day, you know, we wanted

20:27

to get back to like me and yeah, we

20:29

hardly ever speak just me and him.

20:31

It's always like someone's on the phone. And one time we

20:34

were just spoken years yeah,

20:36

I know this sucking ship we

20:38

want us and

20:41

we just said, yeo, let's get back to the legends, man,

20:44

like, let's you know, sometimes we

20:46

started to chase I don't want to say click baby. We started

20:48

to chase those those those so much

20:51

things that's happened moment and we're gonna take those

20:53

two. You know, I got these relationships with these

20:55

people, you know what I mean, I can't help it, but

20:57

I want to get back to the cool hirks like I love it.

21:00

Y'all. Have Mellie scared

21:04

of me? Never

21:06

used to give me a five. I've never said this story.

21:08

I've been wanting to say this forever. Millie

21:10

mill has never gave me a five. And the

21:12

first time I gave me a five is after drink

21:15

Champ started. I swear to God, I

21:17

swear like

21:20

I said, when you have Millie mill and Grandmaster cast

21:23

on there, I'm like you know. That's what That's

21:25

what me and Finn is about, Like, Yo, let's

21:27

let's give these props to you know, the cool hirks.

21:30

You know what I'm saying to people that you know what I mean, and

21:32

especially why our platform

21:34

is as high as it can be, Like

21:36

this is really dope what we're doing. We're giving

21:38

back, Like I remember, you know, I don't want to blow people

21:40

up because I don't know, but I remember me interviewing

21:44

certain people and they calling me like, yo, I'm getting

21:46

shows again. Like I'm like,

21:48

like, that was my that was my I

21:51

was like what words

21:53

like like just

21:56

being on this show and then they could get to

21:58

go back outside, and it's like that's

22:01

that's my reward, you know what I'm saying. That feels

22:03

so good, Like all right, somebody comes to Mike's

22:06

for opinion. For the next two weeks, the

22:08

phone is ringing and they'll call me and

22:10

be like, yo, I didn't know. I'm like yo,

22:13

I feel like we're doing what we're supposed to do. But

22:15

getting back to the styles. I just met him

22:18

like five times and he never looked me in my

22:20

face. And for me, that's a thing,

22:22

Like you know what I mean, it's like somebody dapping

22:24

you and they're looking in the other direction. Yo, let's

22:27

something. Hold on, hold you know what I mean.

22:29

But you know it's just got to fix

22:31

you in Styles. No, no, no, we

22:33

don't got issues. We spoke olverad, we spoke

22:35

already. But um, I spoke the Styles, I spoke

22:38

the Sheet, and I offered for Sheet

22:40

to come on the platform. I can see that and

22:42

talk about it. We'll see what happens in the future. But

22:45

yeah, I was just real unfortunate. I feel like the

22:48

bond that they had and how they felt

22:50

towards jay Hood and kind

22:52

of got caught in the mix of it because

22:54

with these interviews, when we're sitting here, we're

22:56

getting people's life stories, were getting Internet

22:58

moments. You don't connected to

23:00

that person, I mean your artists.

23:03

And at one point he was beating with Serious Jones.

23:05

Like at that point when things got real,

23:07

anybody that would have stood next to the Serious

23:09

Jones you wouldn't have. It wasn't It

23:12

wasn't okay. I mean

23:14

we saw something on a live, nice

23:17

little party out there. You

23:20

know it was cool now now

23:24

yeah he locked up right now? Yeah,

23:26

But um, you know how that it is sometimes I

23:28

can see because you know why. The difference

23:31

between that with jay Hood to me is

23:33

when they were going through their turmoil, it

23:36

was personal, very very personal things

23:38

that was said. And I'm

23:40

thinking, I'm guessing, I don't know, I'm

23:43

guessing after you of course a certain line that

23:45

it's it's unfixable. So and

23:48

I think the Locks is so honorable that

23:51

they are getting mad at anybody standing

23:53

next to them because they just like you.

23:55

You should believe me. Look, look,

23:57

look, look, look how trustworthy I am.

24:01

But out of all of them, you would expect she was

24:03

going to have that reaction. But

24:06

but you look at styles and where he's

24:08

at in life, you know, with all the health food

24:10

stuff and there's a lot of there's a lot

24:12

of care. Yeah, you know what I mean. And

24:15

I felt like he felt like he needed to stand up

24:17

for his brother. So he went live.

24:19

He said some things. I went live. I kind of

24:21

put it out there, like yo, I don't have control

24:24

over what these people are saying. I wasn't

24:26

there. I don't know what can't be like over

24:28

the edit. That's that's what you

24:31

know what, Loki. I take it out if

24:33

I feel like it's gonna be a big problem and I can't.

24:36

I hate that. I hate that because

24:39

sometimes somebody gets sucy and but like, yeah, you know what I'm

24:41

saying. We was gonna slap him with the hammer. I'll be like,

24:45

pick that out out. We

24:47

ain't putting that out. Yeah,

24:50

you know what I'm saying. That seeing

24:53

me and trying to like be war report nor, I'm like

24:58

right, but but but you know, sir, and ship like

25:00

that, you gotta be responsible and be like you

25:03

was hit you said that ship that could

25:05

lead to a big problem.

25:07

I'm not even gonna ask you about it, but you know what's up

25:09

about that? Sometimes and we

25:11

have to leave ship sometimes because what

25:14

happens is if you throw it in the air. I'll tell you

25:16

something, but throw it in the air and it doesn't

25:18

get fixed or doesn't, it's gonna keep

25:20

repeating itself. For instance, Swiss

25:24

flipped on Drake first on drink

25:26

camps. We edited it was

25:28

like you remember, and we

25:30

filmed the New York that was the one, and you

25:33

know we we had Drake coming up. We

25:35

thought we had Drake coming up.

25:37

He said

25:41

he put on the Graham drink.

25:46

We were like, no, we're not. We can't we can't have that. And

25:51

two months later, he goes on Live with Busting

25:53

Rhymes and it's pretty much but

25:55

no, he went he went bad with Busting. He

25:58

didn't go bad on us because we were rolling.

26:00

Yeah, yeah, he was controlling with

26:04

and he was like, oh, so he still

26:07

said what he had to say, but we controlled it

26:09

to a certain extent. But then when we

26:11

edited it, it was

26:13

like he threw it in the universe and it didn't get corrected.

26:16

So that's the reason why, just

26:18

like you could you could because he's thewist and

26:20

Busts are talking and then they're not even talking about

26:22

nothing. This is what He's a black white like

26:27

I don't know what would kids a plane? He like waited

26:29

minutes west and I remember

26:32

it. It's like, damn, it's kind of like my fault because

26:35

I edited in it. Excuse me, I edited it. You

26:37

know what I'm trying to say. You didn't

26:39

get that off. So I felt like he felt like he didn't

26:41

get it all. And because like, if you

26:44

go back and look at that stuff, so what do you do because

26:46

you you you thought Drake was coming

26:48

on the show. Yes, that's not the reason why

26:50

we edit that. That's not the reason it

26:52

was. I don't I mean, I don't quite

26:54

remember asked

26:57

us to take it out, but

27:00

that was this reason. I was like, yes,

27:03

we're taking it out right because

27:06

what did he say? Right back around and said something

27:08

he said, he said worse said,

27:11

what's the he said way worse that time that.

27:14

See, listen, journalism

27:16

is different. You error on the side of your conscious.

27:18

I understand if you don't want to get somebody him up in

27:20

the shop when we're doing on one too. And by the way,

27:22

I'm learning on the job, I'm being I got you on that.

27:26

Know. All the journalists shout out to everybody.

27:31

We sit back and you we we see the mistakes

27:33

that are being made. It's it's not a

27:35

problem to error on the side of your conscious because

27:38

real things happen. I'm saying, somebody say

27:40

something, it reverberates the families, they get

27:42

involved. Hip hop is in a very different place. People

27:44

get shot, way more often, people get

27:46

killed. You have to rock with your conscious. Lord

27:49

knows, if I was in charge,

27:51

you're not could go back and take

27:54

something out that Pop said that might have kept him

27:56

alive. Take something out that Biggie said that might have kept

27:58

him you know, on the side of your conscious you do that. However,

28:01

this is somebody's story. You don't

28:03

have the right to put hands on somebody's story and

28:06

the consequences that come from that story. That

28:08

that's something that they need to be prepared to

28:10

deal with you, and you can't

28:12

take that away from It's not right. You can't really get in

28:14

the middle of that. So if you if he comes on the here

28:16

and this is his truth when Styles started

28:18

talking, when we when we were talking

28:20

to Styles, and he's upset that we didn't.

28:23

We didn't come to him with the Jayhood situation.

28:25

Bro, if you listen to that interview, jay Hood

28:27

didn't address Styles. He said, really it was she. She

28:30

was in charge of X, Y, and Z. These

28:32

are questions for she, not stuff what I look

28:34

like trying to make you answer for somebody else. But he gave

28:37

a million disclaimers also, like understand

28:39

the story is coming from fifteen, sixteen,

28:42

seventeen year old and and and then they're

28:44

twenty years ago. But most of the times

28:46

and and and to correct me if I'm wrong, I

28:48

don't know. If y'all go through this too, people

28:50

will call you up beefing about a clip but

28:52

they didn't even

28:56

didn't even that's

28:59

the one was like, yeah, it's like, yo,

29:01

bro the world. So somebody just ran

29:03

to you and was like, Yo, they did. You just picked

29:06

up the phone and just called me. One

29:08

time. One time, we just had clips

29:10

out and I'm at the airport and the the guys telling

29:12

me he saw the episode, and I'm like, you

29:14

didn't see the episode and he's like, yeah,

29:16

I saw it. He's just breaking down

29:19

clips after clip after clip,

29:21

and I'm just looking at this guy and I'm like, yo, you

29:23

didn't see this episode out? And

29:26

uh, yeah, that that's that's that's had

29:29

a guy get mad at me and say that I

29:31

need to stop talking over the guests.

29:34

And it was super obvious that what he watched was

29:37

a couple of minutes before we actually start

29:39

filming. We have like these wild arguments

29:41

and just wild debates, and we keep them.

29:43

He saw that he saw a barbershop argument

29:46

and thought that, yo, you'll be talking

29:48

over the guests all the time. I don't shut the funk up,

29:50

Yo, No ship you thinking you're the smartest

29:53

person. Mean, while we four separate

29:55

conversations going on. Once we got started, all

29:57

right, we're back, they called me cut

29:59

off like

30:02

cut off. You

30:06

get that with victims of you know people, you

30:08

know where the lions get blury and what you're saying about not

30:10

editing. For example, for us here the

30:12

drinking aspects, there's a point

30:15

where we never used to edit at all. Never

30:19

we learned some lessons down you

30:22

want to learn these. Let me just actually want to

30:24

take this time out to apologize to Missy. Missy,

30:27

I'm sorry. I love your music. Last

30:31

time I was here said something

30:33

about Missy towards the end of the episode. Of

30:35

course, everybody apologize later was

30:37

drunk on drink chance. Oh

30:42

they had me drinking. I'm like thinking we were drinking

30:44

together, but

30:48

I don't even know how we got on the subject, but

30:50

somehow that came out.

30:52

You need to get that all the

30:55

way. But that's that.

30:57

I feel like we have a response when

30:59

we're indn't here drinking for four hours and

31:02

someone starts talking a little crazy, I

31:04

think we do have a responsibility to that person. Okay,

31:06

So because we're here to protect the guests,

31:08

we're here to we're here to celebrate the guests. We're

31:10

not here for them to fund themselves up. But you

31:13

also every now and then you also, you gotta

31:15

let go crazy, right?

31:18

What? Absolutely?

31:23

Okay? Hold on, you

31:25

got so bad? He walked over there.

31:28

We've been piping here for seven years.

31:30

I've never even knew that really existed. Time.

31:35

I was like, what the smoking

31:37

up? Yo? He was Yo, yeah, big

31:39

big up the mc shaft. Yeah, I'm just still

31:41

you're coming from with that. I interviewed somebody before.

31:45

I'm not going yeah, okay, you good.

31:48

I interviewed somebody before and

31:50

shok TV, thank you.

31:54

So I interviewed this dude. He's talking,

31:56

he's giving these great background stories, like

31:58

a fake legend in the game too. And

32:01

he said something about one super popular

32:03

rapper m and I

32:05

said, Bro, who wasn't I don't

32:07

believe that. Who wasn't? Who wasn't?

32:10

Who was it? Who was the rapper? He talked about what

32:12

you talked about fifty something

32:14

about fifty And I was like, that's not

32:17

going to this magazine, bro, because that's

32:19

not happening because we all

32:21

didn't believe it. We all didn't believe

32:23

it. And what do you say? No? Did

32:25

you what he say? Second?

32:36

Now? But he said something some wild ship and the

32:39

same thing with me, like it was its

32:41

trialing error with me, feel me like coming

32:43

from prison and getting right into it. It's trialing

32:45

error. So we're sitting here listening.

32:47

I'm like, yo, I'm asking what you

32:49

think about there, Like, now I don't believe that?

32:51

Yeah,

32:54

cut, I'll say you let's wait till no, no no, no,

32:56

not time out. Did you challenge him to say I don't

32:58

believe that because X Y as the A, B and C.

33:01

Yeah that's so now, I said, because

33:03

the history of this man and how I know this man, I

33:05

know the people surrounding him at that time.

33:07

No, that didn't happen, bro, say

33:09

some crazy ship what he said? Bro,

33:15

My point is you don't

33:17

edit it. You don't edit it.

33:20

No, No, I wouldn't you

33:22

have the same responsible to that person that

33:24

Yo, if I go in the bar, drink my ass

33:26

off hot behind the wheel and kill somebody, is

33:28

the bartender in trouble? No? Yeah,

33:31

kind of yeah, direcular

33:33

responsible. Get

33:44

drunk at the hotel. If you get drunk at the hotel

33:46

and you leave that hotel, your family can

33:48

sued him. I didn't say drunk. I said he drinks

33:50

his asshole, Okay. I was super specific. I

33:53

said drunk. Okay, because you don't need to be drunk

33:55

to get in an accident and sucking hurt. Somebody

33:58

said something, but no,

34:03

I don't wait, Mecca. So you've

34:05

written, You've written stuff when people said

34:07

crazy ship and you let it go. And I've had the answer for

34:09

you. Never you had the answer for you. You

34:13

had to school. Did you go

34:15

to school for journalists? No? I learned.

34:17

I learned from the masters. I feel

34:19

like real true like purist

34:22

journalists. They feel the way you feel. We

34:24

don't. We're not journalists stick

34:31

integrity and morals that you gotta

34:33

go, which is which

34:35

is why I'm not judging you know what I'm saying, which is why

34:37

I'm here, which is why I don't. I'm not shipping on you. I call

34:40

it snow judgment and anything I'm saying, I'm

34:43

telling you what my stances and why you

34:45

think what I'm saying. And I take into account the fact

34:47

that you guys us have

34:50

a different level of responsibility

34:52

now because of the platform, because there's

34:54

alcohol involved, because it's so quick

34:57

and it goes right to the people. People are

34:59

gonna talk without clips, and they're people who want to

35:01

do something for clickbait. So you gotta take that in mind.

35:03

He could be blatantly lying. Do you think what I'm

35:05

saying? So I understand all of the above.

35:08

With that said, I think

35:10

about editing in terms of

35:12

who it's going to offend. And in

35:14

my mind, I got a O G

35:16

who always takes me back to when

35:19

Emmett Till was killed his

35:21

mother let them shoot

35:23

his body the way it was. You got way too deep,

35:25

brother, It's gonna offend somebody.

35:27

But that's the truth. You don't I'm

35:32

not okay, what are you trying to go?

35:36

What you're saying? I do think that that's way

35:38

deeper than what. Yeah we're talking.

35:40

You know, so who

35:42

when? When? Wouldn't it be easier

35:44

if you just didn't have to think about ship

35:46

like that and just let it fly? Yeah,

35:50

here's the difference, and tell you all right now,

35:53

we come from different backgrounds from Mecca,

35:55

right, that's the thing. Mecca is a professional

35:58

in journalism and what he does us. But

36:01

let me where I come from.

36:02

But it's totally different.

36:05

So me walking outside knowing that

36:07

things are going on the street, me me having one ft

36:09

in one ft out. When I do

36:11

certain things, I know I listen. Nah, we

36:13

can't do that. So it's

36:16

two different things. He's a professional journalist, So

36:19

I'm gonna tell you to do it in the streets.

36:25

That's why I'm gonnaperate from your conscience. I'm gonna tell

36:27

you why. We kind of know better. And

36:29

I know better because I have one

36:31

of the only fifty cent interviews

36:34

without a jar rule word being spoke,

36:37

one of the only fifty cent interviews without

36:39

Earth Gotti. And let's

36:41

flip it back, I have also the

36:45

only Rule Gotti

36:47

interviews without being mentioned.

36:50

I avoided it on purpose, so I knew

36:53

that I got. I got that intelligence,

36:55

you know what I'm saying, because I got a relationship with both.

36:57

I'm the only dude the

37:00

job in the in the beginning,

37:02

in the middle, and still now. So

37:05

so you had that conversation before they know,

37:07

I had myself, and

37:09

I said, they

37:12

ain't funny to me, you know what I'm saying. Like I'm gonna

37:15

ask about funny beef. I'm not gonna ask about ship

37:17

that led to other ship that nah. So I

37:19

just avoided that period, and I swear to God

37:21

I always that's something I take pride in, you

37:23

know what I'm saying. And even that's

37:26

the part we edited it, Uh, God,

37:29

he got a little lit and he

37:31

called the y'all assault man. We were

37:33

like all that going and

37:38

we avoided it. You know what I mean, because because

37:41

because at times you're right,

37:43

we shouldn't addit nothing, but at at times we

37:45

have some type of responsibility if you

37:47

know it's gonna end up later

37:50

in the relationships you got with the people and their relationships.

37:52

Great from your conscience, That's all I ever say.

37:55

I agree with that. When I was when I was interviewing

37:58

rappers day in out, Goddamn,

38:01

my very first thing I would tell him I am not

38:03

your fan. I'm not I am not a

38:05

fan. First

38:15

I told it to you, remember

38:18

Jesus, like bro, I think

38:20

I would have been. You would have sat down right here. I'm not

38:22

your You

38:25

have to know what I'm doing. First thing I say, Yo, I'm

38:27

from Queens with seeing the ship

38:31

in this space, not your fans to

38:33

get the story. Yes, okay, I see where you're from.

38:36

You. Yes, they don't think that I'm gonna paint you in rose

38:38

colored glass. You are meeting literally that you're not there

38:40

fan. You're just saying this moment, yeah, this moment, a

38:42

moment, yeah, like man

38:45

is out crazy

38:48

as soon as we get outside, I might take a picture

38:50

because it's my god, seeing

38:52

that. I got that. I know what you're saying. However, they

38:54

don't pay me to be for dad. But that's what's crazy, and

38:57

paid that's what's crazy. That's what

38:59

started this is we were were fans.

39:01

Like if you noticed, when we first started

39:04

this, I didn't know

39:06

research. No, we didn't do any research.

39:08

I didn't do because I'm

39:10

like, what the might ask frat Joe, what kind I

39:12

google about him? Like you know what I'm saying, Like

39:15

I noticed his moms, I know he's working, his

39:17

wife, I know everything. Because

39:20

then when I started to realize, I said,

39:22

you know what, Google is your friend, and

39:25

I would google certain ship like like like

39:27

and I would research people like and that's

39:29

becoming like fun to me now, like

39:31

my research. When I researched Turky, Oh my god,

39:34

I was like, yo, this this is gonna be a great

39:38

yea. And

39:46

let me just tell you something. We edited nothing

39:48

of him, even when he's talked crazy

39:50

because he said this everywhere else,

39:53

so I didn't feel obligated. That's that's

39:55

the good thing about researching people. But seems, like I

39:57

said before, I wouldn't do that. So if I research

39:59

you and you already said yeah, man, I was, I

40:01

was gone, um trip

40:04

words to five nine. That's not to say anybody said

40:06

that, just making an example. First wrapper that came to my

40:08

mind got a trip worse. I'm like, damn, I got

40:10

a relationship with works. Maybe I should take

40:12

that out. But then I'm looking, you said that everywhere.

40:15

It's just a platform. Ain't big enough story?

40:19

How kid you not? It's been times artists

40:22

has sat right there and said the same

40:24

story, and I was like, oh my god,

40:27

you said it's on black TV, you

40:30

said this on such and such, But for some reason,

40:32

they say it here and then it goes viral

40:35

because it's to you, because you know, okay,

40:37

okay, okay,

40:41

So you're not you're not cool with you like that? Yeah,

40:44

I'm cool with Actually that's that was

40:46

my own. That was my first cash

40:50

money relationship was to Julie. Now, I'm the

40:52

one that came to ninety seven.

40:54

You could pull it up. I don't know if you can, but

40:56

I was one said They're

40:59

like, I'm saying, what are you singing? And

41:02

I'm like, I don't know. Because I called I called

41:05

him Jovi, This dude Jovi from New

41:07

Orleans. He had

41:10

and then monks after Jake got

41:12

on on the Remax, the record

41:14

actually hit because a lot of people don't know,

41:16

you know, I'm half Latino. A lot of people don't know

41:18

there's a whole Latino fucking

41:21

in New Orleans. There's a whole little It's

41:24

crazy because it's like they look they

41:26

looked like chicos from Miami. They like they

41:29

got runts and then they're like, what's up with

41:31

all the like from

41:33

day counting? So

41:37

it sweeter or you know what I'm talking about.

41:39

Yeah, yeah, that's serious. So I used to be in New Orleans

41:41

so much. It's crazy because David

41:44

Banner always picks me up and you know, he

41:46

always says, he always says. Because

41:48

what happened was David

41:52

Bannon was froming a video and like this

41:54

is the time I fucking had a show

41:56

in Mississippi. I was hearing this ship.

41:59

So when David man that came to me, he was unknown.

42:01

He was like, yo, penalty won't give

42:04

me nothing for my budget. I

42:06

told him take my video budget out

42:08

and gave it to him. Creaking letters,

42:10

right, Cooking Letters keep saying

42:13

I'm I'm so I'm

42:16

so suck David. He blew up on

42:18

his own bad but cooking letters. And

42:21

I would do things like that, like if a lot of people

42:23

don't know, like for what else from the South technically

42:25

Virginia, like not technically he's

42:27

from, just because

42:30

I need to know, because I don't know. Y'all think

42:32

it's a slip in my interview. I'm

42:34

a fan. I'm

42:37

not a fan, but

42:42

you, um,

42:45

were you responsible for

42:48

featuring? For real? I mean you know that

42:51

from the very beginning. I mean it's documented. Yeah,

42:55

he was working, he

42:58

said to me. And this is the reason why I believe

43:00

him, because he was, to be exact, he

43:03

was a genius. I know it's so cliche

43:05

to say it now because he's like he's read

43:07

she's a top. But I knew it.

43:09

Then he said to me, no one listens

43:12

to me. That was one of

43:14

the first things I wanted to do, because

43:16

I wanted to I like to be petty, I like to right,

43:18

no one listened. Let me listen then, and

43:20

he said, the first person to listen to me is gonna

43:23

go number one. And I was

43:25

like, all right, and he's a little guy. I'm talking my after

43:27

I got the number one record in New York City, and I

43:29

know y'all are fronting on New York City right now,

43:33

New York you heard the background.

43:38

But at one point, when

43:40

you had the number one record in New York City,

43:44

that ship meant the world number

43:47

one record on Anti Martinez the

43:50

world, that top seven and

43:53

seven. I

43:59

want to five the

44:01

industry record.

44:07

You know. No, no, it was not from listening.

44:10

It was from being stopping it

44:12

to the point and it's

44:15

a crazy ship with a lot of people don't know. I said

44:17

this story Minia Times. Let me say

44:20

three. If you're listening to Super Doug, real

44:22

real good. At the end, I go

44:24

in r Noriri. The remix

44:28

Super Doug was a fucking remix.

44:34

It's still there somewhere. And if

44:36

you listen, because the album

44:39

was done and it's pause,

44:42

this cocky young producer with

44:45

this Filipino guy, and they

44:47

look at me and they say, you're

44:49

not closing your album.

44:52

And I don't number one, Like I said, I'm number

44:54

one, But

44:57

it's how they talk, it's how they delivered it.

44:59

It was humble, but it was cocky.

45:02

It was delivered like you can

45:05

That's the word I was looking for. You can't

45:07

close your album. You

45:10

need this m hm, and

45:12

they were right. Sorry.

45:22

I was listening to our album on

45:24

the way here. Sorry, sorry, um, and

45:26

it was crazy. I was speaking my man

45:28

JP, Eric and um Diego and

45:31

I was pointing out to them how

45:33

many times Nas was on our

45:35

You know, Nas was on in our album five times.

45:38

But I don't even think at that time A Z had two

45:40

records with Nas. I Love my Life. That's

45:42

him on the hook replace

45:46

that's how he wrote that. He wrote stumps into

45:48

this day. I've seen this other day. I was like, damn, this thing is still

46:00

there's a count pick of it. Worry

46:05

well, I'm trying to I'm in the process of buying the album.

46:07

But um, it was crazy. He's on, He's

46:09

on the story, he's on I

46:12

Love my Life, and he's on two

46:14

others joints, just just just talking

46:16

in the background. And then he was on the firm too. Yeah.

46:19

I can't.

46:26

I'm done being a humble I'm

46:33

gonna be honest single

46:35

handed. I was telling them the story earlier

46:39

that record single handedly saved

46:42

my life life which

46:44

one I'm leaving house?

46:48

I was dead. I didn't me and trash started

46:50

beefing after the War Report came out,

46:53

and I literally had no manager,

46:55

had no a and all I had I didn't know what to do

46:58

set your solo career off. So

47:00

what happened is what happened

47:03

is, you know, after the poem went to jail. It's

47:05

kind of crazy because

47:08

Nature gave me some backstory on that too. What

47:10

nature was the man let me just say no. But

47:12

at the time he wasn't. Nah, that's false.

47:15

He said they flew you out there.

47:17

They did flew me out here

47:22

his jail. Oh that's

47:24

true because I was. He

47:26

said, you let your verses and I

47:29

had my ship room before I got damn, Like

47:31

like, first of all, let me get me get deep.

47:33

I'm not trying to make this about me because it's about y'all.

47:36

But this is history. This is what history is, not,

47:38

not the guy that's on the show. This is this

47:40

guy, right the

47:43

reason why. So this is what happened.

47:45

Nas called me. I was like, yo, I gotta

47:47

make up for missing the War report because remember if NAS

47:50

was on the War Report music, make these stuffs

47:53

he ain't clear. I was like, damn, that should

47:55

cut us deep. Yeah, because

47:57

it was on the mixtapes. Yeah, nothing.

48:02

So he wanted to make up. So he was like, YO, make

48:04

it up to you. Let me um, I'm gonna fly you out

48:06

to Miami. So I was like, don't even

48:08

other time I've been to Miami, it's with this fucking

48:10

guy and DJ klor have all people right,

48:13

hierronic right, the two

48:15

people that hironic this

48:17

this. I'm not making this up, by the way. So

48:20

I never went back to Miami. I couldn't afford it.

48:22

I just I ain't have it. I'm just being honest. Just

48:24

back, you're laughing. Damn,

48:35

it's true. It's true. So now

48:37

it's never the week they go to Miami.

48:39

They never called me, and whatever was Instagram

48:41

back then, I had to like see that the picture.

48:44

So I was like, oh, satisfied.

48:46

They called me like a month later, so

48:49

they're like, yo, we're gonna work. I go

48:51

in true story, fly

48:55

straight. I remember I told my friends this

48:57

today. I won't even stay at this place.

49:00

Is this universal sheraton. I won't even

49:02

have a drink at the bar right now? Look Look look

49:04

how far came. Huh, just person

49:07

I asked, I'll keep it in the hunting. So then

49:12

I love the universal Sheraton. I was like, oh,

49:14

I'm balling. I guess

49:17

I get to the studio Nature.

49:20

I'm supposed to go to the studio on Wednesday.

49:22

They fly me out on that Tuesday for Nature

49:24

session. So

49:27

I'm on my ship. I'm like,

49:31

and God

49:34

named Dr Dre walks in the room,

49:37

kicks the engineer out and says, you

49:40

got something for this snory and

49:54

engineer that if you listen to

49:56

my whole career, that's the cleanest record I've

49:58

ever been on. That go I can listen to that

50:01

any other record. You're gonna hear me. That

50:06

motherfucker had that ship speaky clean.

50:09

And I nailed it so ill that he made

50:11

me do it three or four more times. He said, because no one

50:13

nails it for me. And I said, all right, cool,

50:17

and they,

50:20

by the way, by the way, I was, I wasn't supposed

50:23

to be on the firm. It was supposed to be a

50:25

record, and then they just pushed it to the front.

50:27

And the reason why Nature is on band from TV,

50:30

it's because Nature could have hated My session

50:32

was the next day. My session was Wednesday.

50:34

I showed there tuesdays support him,

50:37

and my thirsty ass went said,

50:39

you guys something for this, you

50:45

gotta pay.

50:53

I was like, no, we know this, we know that,

50:56

and it was ironic about it. That's why me a trash

50:58

Corp beef was because that

51:00

was on the War Report album. That

51:03

verse that the whole song. That's

51:05

not to be the whole song.

51:09

This is I'm sorry, I'm remember listening too much right

51:11

now. Listen, I

51:13

walk into I go to this trashic co

51:16

bones out with these chicks. I'm

51:18

in the studio. I don't got time for chicks. I

51:21

laid his whole ship. I'm leaving. But it was on to

51:24

Dune, Dune,

51:27

don't let it go to your head. So

51:29

picture don't know this and that's why

51:31

I leave. On the next thing,

51:34

Oh no, it go together. And

51:36

I played it and then and then I played

51:39

it for compone was like, yes, it's

51:41

dope and trashes.

51:47

It was like, I was like this,

51:50

he said, that's horrible. We

51:54

sample, we sample like Havoc. We

51:57

don't sample like Puff Daddy, And well, you

52:03

have no idea listen, no, no,

52:06

I don't know idea. How that ship hurt me. He was like,

52:09

we don't sample like Puff, we sample like

52:11

Havoc. And I was just like oh

52:13

ship. So for me to go to

52:16

dr J and this is it. You

52:19

don't understand how good that's mountain? So

52:23

did you go back to trash? Like I don't know

52:25

what you know the world?

52:35

I

52:35

never? I

52:37

never, And he

52:39

told me years later he was like, I should listen

52:42

to you. So I was like, but he

52:44

was bad at the record, at the sample and the record no, the

52:46

sample it was it was

52:48

rudy. It was like brand

52:52

and that's a big working brand

52:54

Newby and took it years later and I was I definitely

52:56

called him that day. He's like, I know already know what

52:59

you call. Everyone knows I'm petty

53:01

things like, He's like, all you know, it

53:04

was a dope shout. Just did

53:06

something for his album. Oh really, that's that's that's

53:08

my brother be trying to do all overseas for

53:10

e FN's birthday. UM played

53:12

my birthday

53:15

gigs I got UM. So tomorrow

53:17

we're gonna get on the phone with the promoter. So

53:19

we're gonna do drink Champs Europe um

53:22

and you know ended in Paris. You know, I love my wife,

53:25

she loves Paris. Oh yeah,

53:27

so we're gonna do it. Oh

53:29

really, what y'all doing in Paris. Oh

53:32

you and your lady. Okay,

53:35

look at one to all, one to

53:37

three. Now

53:47

you got ladies. Sean, you're

53:49

married. Okay, that's what I'm talking about. Listen,

53:51

be getting married as gangster. That's

53:54

the new game in Mega. Looked the way Megan

53:59

said. You just to Megan,

54:06

you're going to do He

54:08

said that on the show show he's

54:12

trying to break up. No,

54:16

I'm trying to figure out what you'll think it has come up with this ship.

54:18

But I'm not looking you look

54:20

like you just think that break up. I

54:24

just bought two beads and ship. Ye oh

54:30

god

54:35

day beats

54:38

to second conversation. That's back to make

54:40

up some whole ship. Man. I don't know

54:42

he's gonna have fun today. He looks like he looked

54:45

like he's going through Wait what I'm calling. I'm

54:47

fine. I'm fine

54:50

because he got three differr haircuts. You got a poem

54:52

that

54:59

make up your mind? We

55:01

can be Oh my

55:03

god, I'm

55:07

used to. Once

55:09

you see the side shape, you know ain't got nothing to do with

55:12

He holds holding

55:16

on, came out the hat. Whenever you're ready.

55:22

Shining is the right. So being that you're

55:24

the only one drinking. I feel sorry for you because

55:28

the whole time. Oh no, you're drinking too. That's right. So

55:30

we're doing shots. What do you prefer you're not drinking?

55:33

Come on, come on my talk

55:35

with bigger Drink on the show

55:40

that I'm

55:45

gonna keep it real. Okay, bigger

55:47

Drink on the show gets a little dangerous.

55:50

Oh no, we don't want them danger bigger

55:53

Okay, New York, Okay, all in New

55:55

York. But he was a hall of nigger hanging with Brooklyn

55:57

niggas in the just

56:00

the nineties, right to that's

56:05

so, what shot are you gonna take? It's

56:07

up to you, brother, No, not up to you

56:10

want you to drink what you want to drink, because we don't want you

56:12

to blame it on me. I'm no,

56:14

no no shots shot shot shots.

56:17

Yeah, well that you gotta yeah, because it's

56:19

the game slot even

56:22

I've never even heard of, and

56:24

you can pick both and be politically correct. That's when you're

56:26

taking too much. You got with options, we

56:29

got whatever you want me by

56:31

the way of the killer. Yeah,

56:40

like no, I'm telling you money

56:43

never money, bro, Yeah, thank

56:46

you. Okay, I'm gonna but I'm

56:48

being honest. It's knowing

56:50

your own it. Still, it's worth it, that's

56:52

on it. That's that's all. What you're talking about. What

56:54

I'm saying a potential

56:57

revolts whole money too.

57:00

They ain't listening. We ain't mad,

57:02

we ain't mad, they ain't bad. I'm

57:05

telling you they've been

57:07

great partners. Bro Wait, what are you pausing?

57:09

I'm not said bars they say, pull ye, get

57:12

that fixed. And you know

57:14

right right now they're young. I'm gonna do

57:16

a rock though. Oh

57:18

should I do sap beneque risty? Right?

57:26

Can they get another bottle of water? Yeah? Yeah,

57:29

yeah, yeah, this is this is it. By the way, the

57:31

game that you got me with the missy thing. You

57:34

better be aware that game. You better

57:36

be aware. And no edit

57:40

I answer half of my questions.

57:42

Yeah, but you gotta still drink anyway. Yeah, yeah,

57:47

all right, you gotta remember the rules. You

57:51

my water? You're doing mama wana? Okay,

57:53

try it like my

57:56

mama wanna you know they make that in the

57:58

tub and can I told him make a commercial

58:02

playing? I just I

58:04

just say that. I just say that with him. I

58:07

was just ready to jail. Ready, you're

58:10

ready, ready,

58:13

man, you ain't gotta take them big

58:15

shots like that. You ain't got to do it yeah yeah, yeah

58:21

they started off like that. Yeah yeah, yeah, you don't got to

58:23

do it like that, big

58:28

owl or big punt. Start

58:31

ready, that's a good one. You can

58:33

you explain the rules? Oh I

58:35

did? Did? I

58:37

mean? Did? You can't? You say both politically

58:41

correct? You got to drink? Yeah? Both?

58:45

Yeah? Oh you damn

58:47

you gotta wait for us. We drink. Yeah,

58:52

did we drink to rest the piece of both of them legs?

58:55

Absolutely? Okay?

59:01

Not bad? Caress one or rock camp,

59:03

rock camp you

59:06

too, h

59:12

like a dragon. I'm

59:14

gonna go rock him to Caress

59:18

one, of course, rock him. Then

59:21

you got a drink? Yeah,

59:27

yeah, my bad, bad. I didn't try to teach you my

59:29

bath. We

59:32

can see they can see, you know, all

59:34

right, good one murder

59:37

mook or loaded lucks math

59:43

motherfucking drink

59:46

to that. Let

59:49

them make it on man.

59:52

That was all that was, dude.

1:00:01

They're going that

1:00:04

should taste like I got limited. All

1:00:07

right, you got the next one. Let

1:00:10

me see what we are, all

1:00:15

right? Wuchang or n w ag?

1:00:19

Yeah that should be easy for New New York. Yeah

1:00:23

yeah, yeah, yeah, we

1:00:26

we love California. Just want

1:00:28

to put that all

1:00:31

right? Cool? You got the next one? Kanye

1:00:34

Andre three Kan Kanye

1:00:41

yeah, Bro, three stacks.

1:00:43

You're not drinking, man, you're

1:00:45

just making this shrink. Man. If you're not drinking,

1:00:48

bro, like you gotta

1:00:50

just go with what we saved. Man ain't good now

1:00:52

you don't? Okay? Did take

1:00:54

place? Everybody

1:00:57

on the individual merriage taking

1:01:00

play? You got it? Yeah?

1:01:03

Man? Right? Oh no, I got

1:01:05

this one. No, i'mnna skipping this one to go to him. The

1:01:09

sauce or xxile y

1:01:11

k TV magazine? Did

1:01:15

you drink that? I

1:01:18

want to get keep

1:01:21

it real high, the

1:01:24

source suce, the sauce, and

1:01:27

now what sauce, the Benzino sauce

1:01:29

or the Landown mcnilan

1:01:32

sauce. Definitely the Benzino sauce.

1:01:34

That's like the

1:01:40

Dave Benzino Me

1:01:45

too, I heard that too,

1:01:49

okay, d

1:01:51

M Max or Tupac ship

1:01:56

DMX. I'm

1:01:59

go ahead get shop. I

1:02:08

can just hear flex calling me now because

1:02:11

you're gonna you

1:02:13

take this shot by saying that you're saying

1:02:15

tupop. Yeah, you're

1:02:22

not rolling up. It's been drinking. You've

1:02:26

been drinking all day. I

1:02:32

know, I know you you I'll

1:02:35

just take a shot. Piece. You

1:02:38

take a shot for that little Okay,

1:02:44

I'm gonna take this one. I'm gonna jump over a couple

1:02:46

of though. Joe

1:02:48

Button is a million. That was pro game, my

1:02:54

expert. That's

1:03:02

a good I like that. Not like that too.

1:03:04

Shout out to Gilly, shout the while I was shout to Joe,

1:03:06

Shout out to everybody in the space. Man, there's

1:03:09

room for everybody to win the recipeace Jack

1:03:15

recipes coming back Jack Um. You know what, let's

1:03:18

take this to all podcasters because who

1:03:20

would have thought that people are hally

1:03:23

even listening to the radio like we

1:03:25

kind of some of the people

1:03:27

that wouldn't refuse to play my music, I

1:03:29

refused to interview to them, I

1:03:34

got the juice. Now I've

1:03:44

been going crazy today. I'm not humble at all.

1:03:46

I gotta calm down. And while we saying recipes,

1:03:48

recipes, gangs to do as well. Man, you

1:03:51

know it's crazy, man, I really can't

1:03:54

believe. Really it's crazy because you

1:03:56

know, we don't want to be the last person to interview

1:03:59

anybody. But when she passed away,

1:04:01

when Um take Off passed away,

1:04:03

people just kept going to our interview and

1:04:06

it was just like damn it's honor and it

1:04:08

was crazy. That's why you should never listened

1:04:10

to directly to the internet or directly

1:04:13

to the rhetoric that that's happening. The

1:04:16

week before they critiqued us and said

1:04:18

drink chances for legends. Me goes ain't

1:04:20

legends, and then then you

1:04:22

know, unfortunately his de minds that

1:04:25

week. The next week at

1:04:27

to that there was like, I'm so glad you got to give

1:04:29

him you any flowers, And it's just like, Damn,

1:04:31

if I were listening, I wouldn't even

1:04:33

interview them because yesterday they're

1:04:35

not legend and it's

1:04:38

crazy. So you just gotta what did you say, go with your

1:04:40

opinion. Unconsciously, you

1:04:42

also got to consider the source the people

1:04:44

who were talking. That was a double ententure, So

1:04:50

you gotta consider the source, not everybody who's talking.

1:04:53

As the resumeated talk. Tonyo says

1:04:55

something on the show, By

1:04:58

the way, great episode, Tony, your uncle murder. Yeah,

1:05:01

he he went, as I like, but

1:05:03

he said, once I realized that I couldn't make

1:05:05

everybody happy, I felt liberated.

1:05:09

It's real because you get all

1:05:12

different types of opinions. You

1:05:14

just gotta be comfortable with, Okay, You're gonna be bad,

1:05:17

all right a little with that, you know what I mean?

1:05:20

Smith and Wesson,

1:05:23

Yeah, that was that

1:05:26

was you again. What happened? What you say? You said?

1:05:29

Um? They was down with pocket. Um. You

1:05:31

know, they were defended and miss

1:05:33

understood something. I was telling them how

1:05:35

we felt, guys, me and your age,

1:05:38

you know, maybe not you personally, but

1:05:40

a lot of my parents at that time. When

1:05:43

that song dropped, we hit

1:05:47

him up. We were affected in New York.

1:05:51

We were hurt, you know. And I

1:05:54

know people spend the narrative that

1:05:56

he was talking about, you know, Bigg

1:06:00

directly, but me and my parents

1:06:02

and the guys in the street, we didn't hear it

1:06:04

like that. We heard loud and clear.

1:06:06

It felt like you're coming directly at New

1:06:09

York with

1:06:11

those guys. I asked them in

1:06:14

the future, when y'all ended up

1:06:16

like at his house

1:06:19

recording the albums, we kind of, you

1:06:21

know, respectfully looked at you guys

1:06:23

as traders and that that

1:06:27

that set it off. Big

1:06:32

said it. I was like, oh, this is a good one.

1:06:35

Let's see what your

1:06:37

memory is. So so shocked

1:06:39

because I do remember and and and

1:06:42

and both of those brothers. Those are my brothers. Much

1:06:47

respect to them, I do much respect love.

1:06:50

I do remember me

1:06:52

being mad at them for a week or two weeks. I remember.

1:06:54

I remember that and Buckshot, I believe, and

1:06:58

I remember Let's go even EPA.

1:07:02

I remember being mad Red and Meth

1:07:06

remember read it made

1:07:09

it up. I'm sorry my

1:07:12

brothers got both of the phone numbers. They didn't

1:07:14

even know though, but I didn't know that they didn't.

1:07:17

You understand what I'm trying to say. So I felt

1:07:19

exactly like that. I felt like I've

1:07:21

seen. I remember me seeing Red Man in Branson

1:07:24

and just being like like

1:07:29

he had his legs. I jumped in my legs, just

1:07:32

walked. That was the first time. I love Red Man the

1:07:34

first time. And then the Method

1:07:36

Man got on the radio and I guess like

1:07:39

it was and it was spreading like yo man,

1:07:41

you know, because because that's the one thing that

1:07:44

we needed at that time. You know. I made

1:07:46

L A L A and

1:07:50

here's a crazy ship, and I said it on your show. I don't

1:07:52

know if you remember I said it on your

1:07:54

show. I saw the clip the other day, someone sent it to me.

1:07:57

But I remember making L A L A and bringing

1:07:59

it to be big and big

1:08:01

saying, Nah, they're

1:08:03

not gonna use this, and like

1:08:06

he told me to my face, and I was just like and

1:08:08

at the time I was too young to understand that he

1:08:11

understood who he was. I

1:08:13

didn't know that, and he was like, what they're accusing

1:08:16

me of? I didn't do that, so

1:08:18

I ain't gonna address it. And at the time, I was

1:08:20

like, they just talked about your wife, my nigga,

1:08:22

like, and they didn't

1:08:24

use it. It was for a bad boy mixtape. Remember

1:08:27

remember the labels was doing mixtape. Stretch

1:08:29

arm Strong did it. We went mix

1:08:32

tapes were legends and they

1:08:35

didn't know that. And that's

1:08:37

speaking on that time. Like if

1:08:40

you guys at that time didn't make

1:08:42

that song, it was like

1:08:45

that was you know what I'm saying, y'all wasn't

1:08:47

even did some but just to make that song.

1:08:50

You know what's crazy? Let me let

1:08:52

me in York, let

1:08:55

me he too.

1:08:58

Listen. Listen, um

1:09:00

sean um listen. A

1:09:03

friend of mine was on something called a

1:09:05

DJ list. So remember

1:09:07

the dj they would get this before, so

1:09:12

he had the record two months prior to it

1:09:14

dropping. So what we did was we went to

1:09:16

Stretch our Strong crib and we was like, are they

1:09:18

dissing us? And we understand yo, be

1:09:21

yo, God, we knew that was so

1:09:24

that's if you listen. We were going back

1:09:26

and he was like he was saying, whatever the

1:09:28

funk They were saying whatever we said, So we

1:09:30

didn't you talking about the dog Pound record. Now that's

1:09:33

people listening. They because we can stay and hit him up

1:09:35

and we gotta go. They

1:09:38

did. We

1:09:41

did l A l A in response, so

1:09:43

we purposely didn't, I

1:09:47

would say the story, So we purposely didn't

1:09:49

say anything about l A. But Prodigy

1:09:52

did. If you remember the

1:09:54

first that they took off, they took it off,

1:09:57

he said, JFK on my way to l A. He

1:09:59

laid to use that verse on Live Nigga

1:10:01

Rap what not, but that verse was

1:10:04

originally on L A L A. Yeah,

1:10:06

and then was crazy was funked up about

1:10:08

that prodas he said, he did not want to be on the record.

1:10:11

He did not want to be involved. And the

1:10:13

day that we filmed l A l A video

1:10:16

hit him up came out and he wanted to be

1:10:18

involved. Sir. He

1:10:21

tag he takes mind

1:10:23

that night they think it's in the season

1:10:26

since three o'clock and was in the back

1:10:28

nine. I

1:10:32

respect that. I respect that like he rest

1:10:34

in peace, Rest peace, my

1:10:37

favorite boy. Still when y'all y'all through the body

1:10:39

of thing. See, we had to do that. We had no budget.

1:10:42

By the way, I was the worst looking we

1:10:44

had boards.

1:10:53

Remember that. Let you know he abound you

1:10:57

remember Eve. You

1:11:01

know I wasn't in that. It was there

1:11:05

on the bridge, dumping the body. Looking around.

1:11:07

It's mad, cars dropping bodies

1:11:09

thinking they have no bunchet. Mad. I'll

1:11:14

I'll be looking at I'll be looking at that videos down

1:11:16

and I'd be like, thank god, I

1:11:20

can see the hunger in my face. You

1:11:22

can smell who steps on me there?

1:11:27

You can smell it. Oh my god. Okay,

1:11:29

we're still in a quick time. I'm sorry, just trying to

1:11:31

kick us out. Yeah, yes, alright,

1:11:35

Bits Markey old b O d

1:11:37

b bs market oldb That's

1:11:41

a tough one. That's

1:11:43

a tough one. That's

1:11:45

a tough one.

1:11:49

Because they almost comes bro.

1:11:58

I would say, oh dirty bad about

1:12:01

you, Max, Yeah O d B B

1:12:08

Yeah. I

1:12:11

say, I say, um, well,

1:12:13

if you had one of the illest personalities, I

1:12:16

say, that's why we gotta protect our

1:12:18

legends. Prior to him going

1:12:20

to jail, it's probably the best personality

1:12:23

we ever had in hip hop. If you see how he came

1:12:25

home, I'm sorry to make it about the ODB, but if

1:12:27

you see how he came home, that wasn't the same person

1:12:29

definitely, like it wasn't the same. It wasn't like Fox

1:12:33

people up man, J.

1:12:35

I don't know. I think, I think. I think, I

1:12:38

think being a rapper is way. I

1:12:40

think we all need therapy. I

1:12:42

think we all need to sit down. Maybe it's not therapy.

1:12:44

We all need to sit down and to realize

1:12:47

that we ain't each other's

1:12:49

enemy like we like,

1:12:51

we aren't enemies of each other, and

1:12:53

we have to start taking care of each other because

1:12:57

it's ship like that that shouldn't happen, like when

1:12:59

I see old mean when he came back and

1:13:01

and God bless because Rockefeller was trying to

1:13:03

do the right thing. It's just that they

1:13:06

shouldn't have been involved, in my opinion, And

1:13:10

what happened is it made Odi be kind of

1:13:12

take a choice between family

1:13:15

and money. And that's

1:13:17

a bad it's a bad

1:13:20

choice. Like and I'm gonna tell

1:13:22

you, always pick family, Yes,

1:13:25

always pick family. The money

1:13:27

the money has come, Yes, but maybe he's

1:13:30

picking family by picking the money exactly,

1:13:32

you know, and everything we're saying is from the outside

1:13:34

looking and we really don't know what we really don't

1:13:37

know. But picked him up. Man. I got

1:13:39

a chance to meet O. D. B.

1:13:41

And I want to play Bisinesmarkey in the movie. Remember

1:13:43

they was doing the Juice

1:13:45

movie. I went to um to

1:13:48

play bisinmar I

1:13:51

still I still want to play

1:13:53

bisinmar That that was

1:13:55

my That was my rapper

1:13:57

who made me laugh like boogers,

1:13:59

well picking buggers say

1:14:02

he picked the booker and put it on a basketball

1:14:04

and then passed. He's

1:14:07

a genius. He made being a joker cool

1:14:09

and then it's crazy. He made it cool. Yeahs

1:14:17

a sucker, but he could be. I'm

1:14:21

in dinner with Daddy came the other night. I

1:14:27

was like, I was so mad. I didn't know. Okay, real pick

1:14:29

buggers. But then the vapors

1:14:32

vapors, by the way, vapors. This day

1:14:37

something will happen. You'd be like, they go to the vapors.

1:14:39

Yeah to this day. Yeah, I don't know

1:14:41

what. There's

1:14:43

a lot of people catching the vapors. N't

1:14:50

want to get you that. Just run through this real

1:14:52

quick, okay, kiss all fast, relaxed,

1:14:55

listening, Mecca,

1:15:05

what are you doing? He's

1:15:07

trying to secure his relationships. That's

1:15:14

why it's

1:15:17

just just just brother camera

1:15:21

you kiss,

1:15:25

right, the versus kind of

1:15:28

you're just gonna say that kiss. I

1:15:30

don't think the verses proven. You know that

1:15:33

you know kiss? Yeah, I just

1:15:35

think Fat picked. I would say, yeah, he picked

1:15:37

the wrong records. Fat really

1:15:41

over Yeah

1:15:43

as the hardest to a body of music. If

1:15:46

I'm driving, I'm gonna throw something in the listing

1:15:48

to a three hour drive. I'm

1:15:51

I'm gonna definitely choose fab like

1:15:53

side of dout. I'm

1:15:56

gonna say kiss because kiss is more personable.

1:16:00

Kiss will sit down and talk to you and

1:16:02

tell you how crack Yeah I

1:16:07

got. I got a lot of a lot of like things

1:16:09

I've done. That was the sound that

1:16:12

Jada Kiss was the soundtrack to the ship that I did.

1:16:14

So I might be kissed any view

1:16:17

Fat, but I've been viewed jadakiss a couple of dams.

1:16:19

I don't really do it. It might take a shot for it, might

1:16:22

be a little biased. You gotta take a shot for your man.

1:16:24

You gotta take a shot just for that. Yah,

1:16:29

you ain't saying nothing now.

1:16:31

He ain't say nothing. It's

1:16:33

crazy because I feel like I

1:16:40

mean yeah, I mean we h

1:16:42

you take a shot. I'm gonna say both.

1:16:44

Okay, we want

1:16:47

to stand and take a shot. Let

1:16:49

me take a shot of this. Fine, there

1:16:51

we are. Hey,

1:16:57

that's a whole another day and we

1:17:00

cool as well. Profession

1:17:09

questions, we know that's too much. Yes,

1:17:13

every every question, Ship got let

1:17:15

own in there. You

1:17:18

ready? Yeah, you go drer

1:17:20

puff you

1:17:23

said Drake or puff d I gotta

1:17:25

go puff, Sorry, I

1:17:27

gotta go puff as a producer as

1:17:30

your future Life after being

1:17:32

my favorite album of

1:17:35

all time. Okay, I

1:17:38

know people would owe the Chronic. The Chronic

1:17:41

Life After Death was a masterpiece

1:17:44

from be not just

1:17:47

No, No, it is right.

1:17:53

Don't see the did you

1:17:56

can play from start to finish? Now that's

1:17:58

true that what was the last time did

1:18:00

that? You know? What? God about that? I

1:18:03

forgot about that. No, it

1:18:05

looks like we're gonna get technical that

1:18:08

he produced dre produced.

1:18:11

But then I guess you could go into he's

1:18:13

in the question this person

1:18:15

of that person puffing on

1:18:18

the versus you can say about Drake against

1:18:21

also Yeah, but I'm saying that's gonna

1:18:23

be both right, It's

1:18:25

gonna be crazy. I'm saying it's a tough one for that

1:18:28

quickly. But just off the strength of Life after

1:18:30

Death is my favorite album of all

1:18:33

time. I gotta give it to Puff, how

1:18:36

about you, Mecca, brother, I don't

1:18:38

know, I don't know that resumes.

1:18:40

I mean because you started giving Dre credit

1:18:43

for the n w A ward if you put the

1:18:45

Tree of Dre. Yeah, and

1:18:48

the Tree of Puff is hell too, but the Tree Evil

1:18:51

make an album that was better than

1:18:53

Life after Death. No, but Dorgy

1:18:55

Styles is

1:18:59

not a game. No, you gotta go with m

1:19:02

Life after Death is it's

1:19:05

death is a double album. I'm trying to the

1:19:07

last but for

1:19:10

life and it

1:19:13

just wasn't to say thank you how

1:19:16

many? And then there's like the Kindrick work

1:19:18

and the game word nah nah,

1:19:21

there's love it, love it. I'm

1:19:23

gonna step back wants but Life

1:19:26

after Death, bro, But I'm

1:19:29

not saying that you want know

1:19:35

bro, it's emotionate. Wait a minute, the album

1:19:37

is a movement, is yeah?

1:19:41

About I

1:19:44

needed to hear explanation because you gotta

1:19:47

we can't ignore Mace. You know what I'm saying,

1:19:49

make Superstar of the game, right,

1:19:52

you know? But that but let

1:19:54

me stop you for one second. Doesn't Mace

1:19:56

only have one album? Isn't him like Lauren Hill

1:19:58

the same na got your Yeah, oh yeah

1:20:01

that's right. My bad bad, Yeah,

1:20:03

but don't really album

1:20:06

the Treason. Don't

1:20:10

really like that.

1:20:12

But the original Joint and No Way Out work.

1:20:15

You're counting no where you can start early DC,

1:20:19

easy, cool and heavy.

1:20:22

You gotta go heavy, Ye,

1:20:25

you gotta go head. No,

1:20:28

you're talking about an A and R at that point. That's producer.

1:20:31

No, he

1:20:33

wasn't get

1:20:37

your favorite week, it was your favorite week.

1:20:39

Smoke wrote that ship up smoke it

1:20:42

listen to the Life After Death, the whole

1:20:44

ship debate. No

1:20:47

one's debate, you not one. So yeah, yeah,

1:20:51

yeah we know that. If none of those

1:20:55

credit to Puff for BIG's album,

1:20:57

and I'm not giving a hundred percent credit, that's

1:20:59

what we're talking talking about it. But if he was involved

1:21:02

in the in the album that I feel like it was the

1:21:04

great Rick

1:21:08

Ross. You know what I'm saying. That's

1:21:17

so as far as that's the problem with this

1:21:19

question, is that too many other nuances, right,

1:21:21

Yeah, Well that's why Dr dre is

1:21:23

more relevant as far

1:21:26

as how many people worked at how many

1:21:28

albums that sold all crazy how

1:21:30

many records he actually produced with his fingers?

1:21:32

Right right? Right? Puff is a great

1:21:35

orchestrated He knows the talent, he knows how

1:21:37

to find it, put in the right set it and make magic.

1:21:40

That's what Puff does, right. But it's

1:21:42

too many factors. But I'm gonna say, Puff, if you could

1:21:45

have part of it, part

1:21:48

of it, to town part of it, you have

1:21:50

to long history,

1:21:52

baby, because then you started taking into account

1:21:55

Dr Dre's influence over the entire West

1:21:57

Coast because

1:21:59

Puff has that influence as well. Yeah, but I could, I could,

1:22:02

But that's but that's my whole point. It starts

1:22:04

to even out once we start the

1:22:06

why do you cast the net? They both have

1:22:08

a lot of fish to catch? And who

1:22:11

you start asking about X, Y, Z, A,

1:22:13

B, and C. Guess maybe

1:22:16

the question we should be asking who today are

1:22:18

the children of them? Specifically, that's a law.

1:22:21

They are relevant right now, like actively

1:22:24

right now. You know what right

1:22:27

now are active right now that are

1:22:29

directly under the umbrella of them,

1:22:32

that are relevant right now. So

1:22:35

you don't

1:22:38

forget what But you got to understand that

1:22:40

pas credit has

1:22:42

to go to easy Come

1:22:45

on, No, that's

1:22:53

not that's not without

1:22:57

no public you want to say on

1:23:00

the conversation. Conversation

1:23:04

to Rescipe is

1:23:06

easy. Rescipace Andrea Rose, We're

1:23:09

moving on, gonna class record

1:23:12

day, world class record crew like, yeah,

1:23:15

man, we could go even for the back, we could wear what's

1:23:17

your podcast? What's

1:23:20

your favorite past? Stamped?

1:23:28

We stamped and stopping that a shopping

1:23:30

that shot we do? Who

1:23:33

are we kidding? We

1:23:35

know why we're here. Shout out the easy mobi.

1:23:38

Oh yeah, absolutely for all the work on both

1:23:40

sides. Crazy drink

1:23:44

with both. Not only he worked

1:23:46

with both of them, but kept working during the beat.

1:23:48

Yeah, because Me against the World is my favorite pot

1:23:50

album. Shout

1:23:53

out lose.

1:23:57

We don't believe you, man, We don't don't

1:24:01

kills you. That's

1:24:03

trust. The fans will kill you. Take

1:24:06

your shot, trust me, trust

1:24:08

me. It

1:24:12

doesn't get a regular us for here

1:24:14

in the game. You eas see it. Come on and

1:24:17

we celebrate you today. He celebrated

1:24:19

you and your kid. You

1:24:23

on your team. And by the way, you

1:24:25

know the top is a shot too. I really thought you setting

1:24:28

me up. Yeah, I

1:24:30

thought a puff was going right out here with a const No. Yeah,

1:24:37

Chance just went to bath. He went to the bathroom

1:24:40

trying to avoid his shot. He got, we got, we got something

1:24:42

for his ass. We're gonna wait. We

1:24:45

gotta say something. Y'all had

1:24:47

a podcast waiting for a podcast

1:24:49

today, y'all were late. I

1:24:51

can't believe that. Accept

1:24:56

let me tell you something. First of a podcast,

1:24:58

we had math. He showed up early. Yes,

1:25:00

sweatsuits, he was. You

1:25:07

know, he needed some money right now, right

1:25:14

said, I missed my flagers that I

1:25:17

got the helicopter. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, no,

1:25:20

but yo, damn I was. I was. Champ was. I

1:25:22

don't know, gonna take this shot for him now,

1:25:25

I'm really really proud

1:25:27

of you got no man. Um. The

1:25:30

reason why is the show kept

1:25:32

its it's realness. It's

1:25:35

a little bit, but it kept the main

1:25:38

integrity because the main integrity. And

1:25:42

I like the fact that y'all arguing now.

1:25:44

I like the fact that because

1:25:47

it makes feel great, it makes feel great. You

1:25:50

gotta realize, you gotta realize your big

1:25:52

end. Champ got into it the last episode. Yeah

1:25:55

yeah, bro, hold on, take

1:25:59

your take your shot. You got your shot,

1:26:01

You got your shot, you got yeah yeah yeah. Because

1:26:04

this is for y'all, let me just tell ya something that um,

1:26:06

you poll your shot in give y'all a great speech

1:26:08

because I'm gonna

1:26:10

give you all a great speech because I know how

1:26:12

hard it is to survive, to be You

1:26:15

know, podcasting is like being in Costcos.

1:26:18

Right, you can, everyone can have

1:26:20

their product in Costcos. But if you got

1:26:22

your ship behind the deers, the

1:26:24

dear, yeah, you

1:26:27

need you need to have your ship where the

1:26:29

ugly lady says, welcome to Costcos and

1:26:32

your ships right right front. You

1:26:34

know the lady that smoked too much cigarettes. We

1:26:38

smoke cigarettes. She's nine hundreds

1:26:40

and she's like, yeah, she's

1:26:43

like she's like, she's like, welcome Costco lady

1:26:45

taking it straight for no reason. Yeah, I mean you

1:26:47

know, you know she's doing their job right now.

1:26:50

Yeah, but you know I'm talking hard. The

1:26:55

one the lady that she looked like she spoke, so

1:26:59

what is he wanna tell ya? We

1:27:01

have been no independent

1:27:06

podcast. We know how it fails. We

1:27:09

know how it feels to go up against these others.

1:27:11

We know how it feels to be recognized

1:27:14

and not be recognized. We

1:27:17

know that y'all going through

1:27:19

it's crazy because whether

1:27:22

it is direct or indirect, we've

1:27:24

been through. And for me to see y'all growth,

1:27:26

for me to see how this ship came together,

1:27:29

for me to see how y'all keeping

1:27:31

it tight. It's something I wanted

1:27:33

to It's my idea. I called Math. I said,

1:27:35

Yo, I want y'all want the crew we had

1:27:37

you don't over we had you, um, but

1:27:40

I want, I want. I want to give it to y'all. It's not

1:27:42

it's not sorry, it's not just about

1:27:44

you see I see you, you

1:27:46

know, but it's it's about Yeah, it's about commodity.

1:27:50

You know. I'm a little socia. You

1:27:52

know that. You know what I mean. I'm I

1:27:55

can't pronounce my own name. You know what I mean. Salute,

1:27:58

but I want to salute y'all say respect

1:28:01

um, continue to do your thing for that

1:28:03

one. Yes, are you gonna take it with your hell?

1:28:06

Yeah? Yeah, I'm

1:28:12

you know, it's like the contract not

1:28:17

for real because it salut um

1:28:20

and and and what's crazy

1:28:22

is your personalities. Thank

1:28:25

you, you have personalities. The

1:28:27

fact I knew the

1:28:30

show was going to change for

1:28:32

the better because

1:28:36

of Mecca, right, And I want to give you a Flowers

1:28:38

direct because man, there's an

1:28:41

all street don't everyone else

1:28:43

is like a street guy. I'm not saying you're not a street guy. We

1:28:45

know you're not a s but you to but

1:28:49

I know you have an expert

1:28:52

opinion. You actually are

1:28:54

an expert alright,

1:28:56

extually, I think out of all of us here, I

1:28:58

think you're probably only actually like

1:29:08

I've always you know, um, you know,

1:29:10

prior to this, I've always done interviews and I've

1:29:12

always been a fan of you and how you

1:29:14

handled me, you know what I mean, how you treated

1:29:16

me, whether I was when I was coming

1:29:19

up, whether when I was in the medium of error

1:29:21

or whether And how

1:29:23

hard is that because these relationships,

1:29:26

how hard is to maintain that here? It's

1:29:30

not hard. It's not. I don't

1:29:32

I don't make it. Just don't handle this after that's

1:29:36

that's whatever

1:29:40

you're about to get into it. Get

1:29:43

know what I'm saying. Gets

1:29:45

it's not. It's not a difficult thing. Man. I learned

1:29:47

early on. The job is the job, and

1:29:50

it's not. It's not about you.

1:29:52

It's not about me. It's about the person who

1:29:54

picks up the magazine and decides they want to know more

1:29:57

about this person's life. My job

1:29:59

is to paint that at you and make it as honest

1:30:01

as possible, and make it entertaining. The

1:30:03

reason why we have such a good thing going over

1:30:05

here is because all of those factors come

1:30:08

into play. We make it entertaining. He's

1:30:10

gonna say what he's gonna say. It's gonna be real,

1:30:13

even even if it's wrong. He really

1:30:15

means it. He's telling the truth, his truth.

1:30:18

It's exactly like, how

1:30:20

can how can you ever be mad at anybody who's telling

1:30:23

it? Now, the consequences are gonna come down, But I'm

1:30:25

used to I've done that already. So it's

1:30:29

a it's a it's it's it's definitely a unique

1:30:31

experience. It's the first time I've ever been a

1:30:33

part of anything like this. I'm

1:30:35

happy to move off a print and do

1:30:38

this here with But I'm make

1:30:40

no mistake. I'm I've

1:30:42

been built for this a long time ago. It's

1:30:44

not as rugged as what people may think it

1:30:47

is. And I knew that. I

1:30:49

remember when the podcast started, right

1:30:51

yelling at heat makers and ship and

1:30:54

I knew that. I

1:30:57

was like, yeah, or

1:31:00

you was a guest on the show first, you gotta keep first.

1:31:02

Yeah. No, I didn't know that. No, I wasn't called to

1:31:04

be a host. I was called it. He's somebody backed out.

1:31:07

He's a homie. He called me Yo, can you pull

1:31:10

up? I know Megan shout out the

1:31:12

yo dub one of the longest open

1:31:14

mics in New York City. Rest in peace, rest

1:31:17

in peace, vice versus vice versus

1:31:19

rest in peace? Uh Jay,

1:31:21

rest in peace? Um yeah,

1:31:25

go all down that tree j arch head.

1:31:30

Yeah. Um so

1:31:32

I know Mecca from that environment.

1:31:35

And another thing I want to say, yo,

1:31:38

open mics need to come back. Yeah for

1:31:41

you just ryman, Yeah, on

1:31:44

your craft. Ain't that such

1:31:47

a legtion? You don't even know what the open mic? That's not what

1:31:51

they're doing right now? Karaoke? Yeah,

1:31:53

man, this ain't car It's

1:31:58

probably close to the stand up open mics. If

1:32:00

you could, you could relate it. You

1:32:02

can relate it close to someone who doesn't understand.

1:32:04

But that was that, But that was the space.

1:32:07

Will you hone the craft when

1:32:09

you saw guys rocking a stage and

1:32:11

you said, what was the jay z? The Mayfield

1:32:14

she's um um the

1:32:17

lady short shorty name two

1:32:19

the intro ohh uh he

1:32:23

knows, because yeah, just because I was supposed

1:32:26

Yeah, of course. And we're still on quick time and slime.

1:32:28

We forgot I can't remember my name.

1:32:32

I can't, but I know I know that I know that ahead. I noticed

1:32:34

that's sucking me up that I don't know that he wants to look

1:32:36

it up there? Yes, what was that

1:32:39

woman's name? Is he passed away? Yeah,

1:32:42

that's that's where holding them used to uh go

1:32:44

And we had something like that similar and queens

1:32:47

called the Q Club Q

1:32:49

Club. Yeah, and shot at at the Queah.

1:32:52

You got shot at from brook A lot of people got shot at

1:32:54

the Shotria

1:32:57

David Davis rest in peace.

1:33:01

Um, but yeah, EO dub end

1:33:03

of the Week. That was the spot where

1:33:06

I used to go through weight on that line, sign

1:33:09

up, get on that list, to get on that stage,

1:33:11

whether it was freestyle and I was performing a song

1:33:14

or whatever, and Mecca would

1:33:16

be in the spot. And I did that for years,

1:33:19

for years. And that's where I know Mecca

1:33:21

from. Um the soort stuff

1:33:24

I didn't. I wasn't really too familiar. It

1:33:26

wasn't he

1:33:29

wasn't that Zeno's

1:33:32

fault. That Zeno's fault is

1:33:35

Zeno's fault. When I decided not to dis eminem,

1:33:38

he took away to unsigned hype for me, So

1:33:42

I was like, yeah, pretty

1:33:45

much shot Do you know though, I hope,

1:33:48

I hope, I hope Dad is doing okay and all

1:33:50

that ship. But when Mett came on the

1:33:52

show, I was like, mm hmm, okay,

1:33:56

he's a historian, you know what, not

1:34:00

get to I

1:34:06

don't want to want history.

1:34:09

I want to I want to being

1:34:11

a historian and and somebody who cares

1:34:13

so much about the culture. I

1:34:16

said, Yo, no he has to. I

1:34:20

don't think I've ever had a conversation with Mecca

1:34:23

that doesn't involve hip hop, right, I don't

1:34:25

think it's not true. The day I introduce

1:34:27

you to BArch your chicken, we didn't talk. Yeah.

1:34:40

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie that bonch. I ain't

1:34:42

gonna lie. That's yo. Don't

1:34:45

read itself into it like that. I can't even

1:34:48

I can't even tell you because this might

1:34:50

sound crazy. Gone

1:34:55

let alone. I'm okay. Scarf

1:34:57

face, ice cube, scarf Oh

1:35:05

shut damn

1:35:09

cute. Yeah, he's gonna said,

1:35:14

I said, Starfish from

1:35:16

the Womb to the tomb a hot powder,

1:35:18

John Spoon trying to make me the thousand

1:35:21

to move today?

1:35:23

What's a good days?

1:35:25

Two and two? Technically I should make your drink, but it's

1:35:27

okay, No, that's not the way it works. You

1:35:31

stay trying to that's

1:35:34

his job. Came late, my night is

1:35:36

already room. Uh

1:35:40

you got it? Oh yeah, you're on TV wraps A Rap

1:35:42

city. I love this one. We do

1:35:44

your music box right

1:35:53

when one

1:35:55

time he's the father. By the way, did

1:35:57

you see he's get the money? Did you know that? You

1:36:00

see McDaniels was only second

1:36:02

to Oprah the

1:36:05

ratings, the ratings, he was only

1:36:08

second, So how does that

1:36:10

not continue? Like, how does that not bigger

1:36:14

for him? Ralph McDaniels is single

1:36:17

handedly responsible for

1:36:19

the spread of hip hop, absolutely, but

1:36:22

how was that to another level?

1:36:24

Because I wanted to reproduce I

1:36:28

can't be saying all that and you ain't watching and

1:36:30

started watching it's

1:36:33

so good and it was so dope

1:36:35

about it is you get to see NAS

1:36:38

fan the funk out. He's

1:36:40

just like like it's like like

1:36:42

he's just he's not Nas at all. He's just

1:36:45

a fan of like he's

1:36:47

breaking it down. He remembered the intro.

1:36:49

He's like, remember, come

1:36:56

on, come on, take

1:37:00

a shouting around me. You're from New York City, New

1:37:03

York City and you my age, you know,

1:37:06

you know it's crazy about it was the Disney afternoon

1:37:09

until Batman came out. Then Batman came

1:37:11

out at four thirty. But right at

1:37:13

five o'clock you went straight channel.

1:37:16

Queen's was thirty. I thought, I'm

1:37:22

thinking. I was thinking about the box, but the boxes on the

1:37:25

boxes of Miami Daily Man.

1:37:29

Yeah, drinking

1:37:35

when Sir ralpers

1:37:38

from Queen's. Yeah, Queen's get

1:37:43

and we gotta get here his flowers for sure. You gotta

1:37:45

go crazy. The first of my soul, Ralph,

1:37:47

I fanned out, cheers, guys,

1:37:49

and I was like, Uncle Ralph.

1:37:53

He looked at me. He was like laugh,

1:37:55

said, ship, you do

1:38:00

a little dance the whole ship. Yo.

1:38:05

He was like, you understand, that's what it's all about. At

1:38:07

the end of the day, That's what it's about. Goddamn

1:38:09

he getting that feels great. Yeah, this

1:38:11

is a great one. I'm going straight to you. Mac now hold, I'm

1:38:13

sorry I cut your story off. Finish your stof No. No,

1:38:16

he was like, math Holf, I sold you deal with that Irons

1:38:18

Solomon situation. I was masterful. I

1:38:20

was like, thank

1:38:23

you, stand Moca

1:38:26

never battle me. He

1:38:29

would never battle me. Bro, Why should

1:38:33

we finished kreektime and come back to this. Yeah,

1:38:36

that's Fritish Creekti House coming back. We

1:38:39

are going straight to you, Mecca and

1:38:42

Manema bust the rhymes bus bus

1:38:46

math. He ain't been on the show yet, dope, but

1:38:50

you shout of the South, Okay,

1:38:53

So I'm gonna go in with this one. He's

1:38:56

never going Now, that's

1:39:03

a tough one, you know, um or

1:39:06

shout out to both of them. That's

1:39:08

a tough one. That's one of those epic ones.

1:39:11

You say both you gotta drink, we gotta

1:39:14

drink, would say, I

1:39:16

would say Eminem, Yeah,

1:39:19

yeah, you're the top breaking right now? Wait

1:39:21

who is it again? And Buster?

1:39:29

Eminem? So three

1:39:31

the one. If I could vote,

1:39:34

I'm vote Buster. And it's actually

1:39:36

easy to vost because because you could say

1:39:38

without one, there's no other. But we know Buster.

1:39:41

That's right. I'm not gonna lie to hold on real

1:39:43

quick. Yes, I'm not gonna lie. That

1:39:46

calm down record event

1:39:49

to no Buster.

1:39:53

The morning was retarded, that I

1:39:56

never understood why I should never got no radio plate.

1:39:58

That ship was richly hard the

1:40:02

real world. Yeah,

1:40:04

but when it comes to m being that I'm a battle

1:40:07

rapper, yeah

1:40:10

and has to be on your shot. Let's move on. He's

1:40:15

gonna come here first and then go you

1:40:25

know closer

1:40:28

in Detroit. We can

1:40:30

make mocktails. Bro, We're good. I

1:40:33

literally I

1:40:36

have this argument with Royce five now all the

1:40:38

time. We go back and forth, and I tell him,

1:40:41

my guy will scrape

1:40:43

your guy, so get your guy. Let's

1:40:45

figure it out for versus versus.

1:40:49

We were actually the only

1:40:51

people that was talking about Eminem versus Buster

1:40:54

for for for for the verses. That's

1:40:57

hard. I think that would be incredible. I'm

1:41:00

sofa the world was stopped that

1:41:04

fucking fast and go crazy world.

1:41:07

They gotta go back and forth with the buses. The

1:41:09

thing about it is and is a beast on stage

1:41:12

and he's a beast and lyrics and buses

1:41:14

not but bust world.

1:41:19

What is the stage again? Nothing

1:41:23

like the on stage everything. What he said

1:41:26

was what happened. Twisters

1:41:31

is the fastest in the in the world record, all right,

1:41:33

shout to twist, move on or holding from fish

1:41:35

to gains. I think he might have chipped Chip.

1:41:39

Gonna go to you back and forth because

1:41:42

I know you're gonna let Brooklyn rule,

1:41:44

and then I'm going to you because I know you're

1:41:46

gonna let queens mp

1:41:49

A mob d it

1:41:53

depends on what type of activities

1:41:56

into That sounds like just

1:42:02

say both man, No, we're

1:42:04

getting into both got to have it

1:42:06

be. How are you going to do this some

1:42:09

crazy ship? Um, because

1:42:12

the Brooklyn and you ain't going to just let you just walk

1:42:14

over and you can't kick him. Bro Brooklyn's

1:42:17

gonna be. It's

1:42:19

something like a shot to me. And we got a whole got

1:42:22

at them both.

1:42:25

Yeah yeah, I mean, I mean, don't

1:42:27

even bick. Don't killers

1:42:31

in a hundred dollar billis it's

1:42:33

real? Niggas ain't got no p he's

1:42:36

speaking mom d Yeah, come on, I

1:42:39

love both of them, but you can't compare

1:42:41

and mo pee by the work definitely

1:42:45

Okay, that's true. Yeah, bib

1:42:48

okay, it sounds like I canna understand. I

1:42:50

mean cool, but come

1:42:53

on, love we love stop

1:42:58

back and forth. Brown's real. Hell,

1:43:01

I see fame and

1:43:05

BT awards. Man, you guys are looking

1:43:07

good. You guys are you know? Famous

1:43:10

in the gym every day. I want I want, I want you

1:43:12

to know that we want to give you your flowers please

1:43:15

please, Um, We're gonna go so hard

1:43:17

this year because it's really

1:43:20

about those legends that yes,

1:43:24

I love you so that's a little I

1:43:28

love. Or when they come, they're coming to me first,

1:43:30

no problem, I don't mind. I guess what. I'm gonna

1:43:32

watch it too. And it

1:43:35

was reposted and I don't care. I do the same thing.

1:43:37

Yeah, I love major or independent

1:43:40

independent Mecca major.

1:43:57

I'm making some noise for you the

1:44:02

face. I

1:44:04

will go independent. But if you're dealing with the

1:44:06

right major that you have, you

1:44:09

have your own relationship, relationship

1:44:11

with major. Okay, that's that's my

1:44:14

which is what I've always told that, That's what

1:44:16

I've always said. I would state

1:44:18

the beauty of independence for the simple fact

1:44:20

of when you look at different

1:44:23

platforms that are independent, artist

1:44:26

wise, podcast wise, Mike's

1:44:28

for the p nbing number one. Um,

1:44:34

you don't really want nobody over you

1:44:36

telling you what to do in any shape, way,

1:44:38

shape or form. You won't be able to count

1:44:40

count your own dollars with a certain extent.

1:44:42

But that's not that's not really control you and

1:44:45

control your creative You know what, if you know what, if

1:44:47

you have to, if you The perfect way to put this

1:44:51

is, I don't think anyone should reach towards

1:44:53

the major until you find out

1:44:56

what you could do independently, right

1:44:58

at first have to be great at

1:45:00

being independent so you can take advantage

1:45:03

of a major major exactly, so the

1:45:05

major doesn't take it smart

1:45:14

Ya that

1:45:22

truly did? I enjoyed it? Okay? Last

1:45:25

question we asked everybody,

1:45:29

and this has not been quick, not

1:45:33

quick with time. Loyalty or

1:45:35

respect loyalty

1:45:41

because you can't have loyalty without

1:45:43

respect. You

1:45:46

can't. You can respect somebody and you

1:45:48

can stab him in the back, that's how much

1:45:50

you respect him, you know what I mean? Like,

1:45:53

Oh, this motherfucker, No, he's gonna tear me up. I'm

1:45:55

gonna stab him in the bag, you know what I mean. But when

1:45:59

you got loyalty, that's everything,

1:46:02

that's everything. Loyalty

1:46:05

creates kingdoms, it creates countries,

1:46:08

that creates movements. Respect

1:46:13

it's a part of loyalty. It

1:46:15

falls under the umbrella. HM.

1:46:18

So I'm going respect

1:46:22

because I've never been able to be loyal to anybody

1:46:24

I didn't respect. Ever, I've

1:46:26

never been able to If if I can't respect

1:46:29

what you do, how you treat people, how you how you

1:46:31

act, can't be loyal. But doesn't that mean

1:46:33

that to be loyal to someone

1:46:35

you have to respect them to to I

1:46:37

can't I cannot be loyal to someone

1:46:40

I don't. But there are people you respect that

1:46:42

you you're not loyal to. I don't have any

1:46:44

I don't have any ties to them. Let me

1:46:46

let me say Let let me say it this way. First of all, like

1:46:48

I respect Shorty's had, but

1:46:51

I ain't like I

1:46:54

don't think I

1:46:56

don't. I

1:46:59

mean, I don't spect that quality.

1:47:02

But that is not what

1:47:07

you're doing. I like you like the

1:47:09

head, you don't respect it, you like it, I

1:47:11

respect you like it. You might even love it. However,

1:47:14

again, I've never been able to show loyalty

1:47:16

to somebody I didn't respect. If you're doing ship that I

1:47:18

can't respect, did disrespectful ship

1:47:20

or ship that I that I don't see. If you're

1:47:23

not an upstanding just

1:47:25

being a fun boy and ship, I can't be loyal to

1:47:27

that because I don't respect you. I don't respect what you do. If

1:47:29

I see, okay, if I see you treat somebody

1:47:31

close to you really really fucked up, I'm

1:47:34

gonna be loyal to that, all right. So so so

1:47:37

so when a little uh the

1:47:39

flowers, when

1:47:43

somebody who's stepping into the podcast

1:47:46

and they're really in the dirty section of

1:47:48

YouTube, right, hey, man, get your life together. They're

1:47:51

really in a dirty sextion the YouTube and they start

1:47:53

ticking shots, the filthy shots. They

1:47:56

want to get dirty, so they're gonna be like, yo, may

1:47:59

make kids this mecha's that you

1:48:01

could respect it, but that don't mean

1:48:03

that they can't you pop it ship

1:48:07

that about that means

1:48:10

a martial artists. Did you know that he looked he gonna kick

1:48:12

somebody. I'm

1:48:16

trying to get this thing to do around household camera

1:48:18

forever one

1:48:22

time? How about you loyal

1:48:25

to your respect with

1:48:28

respect respect? Yeah, and

1:48:30

the reason why I go respect

1:48:33

something slightly similar

1:48:35

to what Maca said, so but a

1:48:37

little different. I could be loyal to

1:48:39

something that I don't respect. It could

1:48:41

start out the same way and they are very

1:48:44

similar. But at some point

1:48:46

someone could be loyal to you that have

1:48:49

lawyer's respect for you. How

1:48:52

how can you be because I respect if

1:48:55

I don't respect you, I'm not. I don't have to be loyal

1:48:57

to you. That to eat that every

1:49:00

conforms you to stay loyal

1:49:02

if you don't respect them. Because a lot of people money,

1:49:04

a lot of people are loyal to the opportunity

1:49:07

and not the person. That's why I'm

1:49:09

different. I don't give a funk how much money

1:49:11

you but but you would you give it to

1:49:13

me if I don't respect your don't respect you? Simple

1:49:16

and can you even describe that as loyalty?

1:49:18

Though? Sure? No,

1:49:21

no, no, it's how you know, even in this business

1:49:24

we wanted to don't

1:49:31

have to be as complicated as we make it

1:49:34

been. And wives get married every day.

1:49:37

That's the same exact thing. Somewhere

1:49:39

on the line. Your husband or your wife

1:49:41

is gonna watch you and according

1:49:44

to your ways, your characteristics

1:49:46

and things that you show them, they could lose

1:49:49

respect for you, but they are going

1:49:51

to stay loyal to you because of whose

1:49:53

they are. So you're picking loyalty. No,

1:49:56

no, no, it's respect.

1:49:59

He's staying Which one do you more? It's

1:50:02

respect because someone

1:50:04

who respects you, it's

1:50:07

gonna be lower you to you come

1:50:10

someone who respects you going to be lawyer

1:50:12

to you. That's when it comes in thesane. But

1:50:15

someone who is lawing you to you don't

1:50:17

have to respect you. People get up

1:50:19

and go to a job every day that

1:50:21

they're lawyering you too, and be like, fuck

1:50:24

this job and don't respect the

1:50:26

job. But there I'm lawyer you said the job

1:50:35

I want respect, we

1:50:37

give it to you. I

1:50:41

taking a shot this job. I got

1:50:47

fired from every job I was ever. Let

1:50:49

me taking a show that I'll taking a shot, and

1:50:53

now you lower your

1:50:55

respect. So I'm

1:50:58

gonna say respect, right, Okay, So

1:51:01

I'm going by I'm going

1:51:03

by the dictionary version,

1:51:06

right, the dictionary version of respected. Yeah.

1:51:11

The foundation Google, So

1:51:13

it's not just respect

1:51:16

is a feeling of deep admiration for someone or

1:51:19

something elicited by their abilities,

1:51:22

qualities, or achievements. And what's

1:51:24

the loyal to? Loyal ti means

1:51:26

a strong feeling of support or allegiance.

1:51:29

That's it. That's as far as to

1:51:31

go the dictionary. At

1:51:39

first, you know,

1:51:42

you know it is amongst us. But my thing

1:51:44

is, at first I was in agreeance with math.

1:51:46

I'm like, yeah, loyal t. You know I'm saying

1:51:48

my wife is loyal, my fiance is loyal to?

1:51:51

Right, put me down my whole bit, you know

1:51:53

what I'm saying. But does

1:51:55

respect makes out of mouth?

1:51:58

But where's the respect? That? Don't

1:52:00

you respected me personal?

1:52:03

Right now? But that's because

1:52:05

he used the example and

1:52:09

I got to ask the question, does with respect

1:52:11

stop you from stitching? Wait?

1:52:13

What does

1:52:16

respect stop you from stitching? Code?

1:52:19

Does respect stop you from snitching? Or does

1:52:22

loyalty stop you from snitching? Respect

1:52:24

for the bro? Because

1:52:27

if I which one with me?

1:52:29

Which one is in the lead to you?

1:52:31

That's all I'm saying. Hold on all

1:52:36

right, give you a good example,

1:52:39

right? If I respect

1:52:41

every man in this room, I don't know everybody in

1:52:43

this room. Respect back, y'all

1:52:45

brothers. I respect everything y'all doing because

1:52:47

y'all showed results, right,

1:52:50

I've done things that I have not done yet.

1:52:52

I'm still learning, and y'all have set

1:52:54

the standard you right, I respect

1:52:57

that and my

1:52:59

loyalty to you don't know what you don't know us,

1:53:01

right. That's so

1:53:04

here's where I'm going. Um, People

1:53:07

fuck up, People fuck

1:53:10

up, right up people,

1:53:12

and sometimes you don't respect the funk up.

1:53:15

But staying loyal that's

1:53:18

more important. Bro, People

1:53:21

fuck up. If people fuck

1:53:23

up that

1:53:25

somebody sucks up once and your loyalties out, you would

1:53:28

never really loyal. But but can you can you respect

1:53:30

the funk up? I can? Of course you

1:53:32

can respect the fun How

1:53:36

fu U I got? If

1:53:39

you? If you lose respect with me because I'm funked

1:53:41

up, I'm flawless. Of course I respect.

1:53:43

I respect the fact. That's

1:53:47

what I say loyalty because nobody's perfect. I'm

1:53:49

like, funk up loyalty to

1:53:52

me, all right, exactly. But

1:53:56

I won't lose right at

1:54:01

four in the morning when I'm twisting coming out

1:54:03

the club and ship that I'm doing is just

1:54:06

still respect you. I just mean your mother. I'll

1:54:08

still judge, yeah, but I respect. What

1:54:12

I'm saying is that I don't think you can you

1:54:14

can separate the two now, you can't separate.

1:54:17

That's that's why we asked this question.

1:54:19

It is because to us, to me at

1:54:21

E f N, that's the only time

1:54:23

you should drink. It's just say it

1:54:25

should always it should be handing hand to us. I

1:54:28

can dig it. There's

1:54:30

respect that answer. There's no real there's

1:54:33

no real respect without lawyer. I

1:54:37

get it. I get it. You could have respect from a distance

1:54:39

to an adversary that you say,

1:54:42

damn, that dude is fucking wild, but I respect

1:54:44

his game, But is that really respect?

1:54:47

That goes back to the whole editing thing too. Right,

1:54:50

So like you have a loyal t to a buster,

1:54:52

you have a loyal t toward fat Joe, right,

1:54:55

and I'm gonna keep it. Mecca doesn't have a

1:54:58

certain loyalty because when it comes to work, it's

1:55:00

work. I'm not a fan of your work. I'm here to

1:55:02

do a job. Loyalty, your

1:55:05

loyal to the job. Respect.

1:55:09

But he respects the morality or the or the guidelines

1:55:12

of that job. There's a code that comes with that

1:55:15

respecting. And that's why I won't tell due

1:55:17

to loyalty. Bro, But it's it's

1:55:20

both. Listen, man telling

1:55:23

me, don't tell without

1:55:27

a reason. Salute

1:55:32

no goddamn reason. Oh,

1:55:35

I gotta say it is

1:55:38

not so loud. I'm gonna

1:55:40

tell you whatever. This is right here. This ship

1:55:43

is smooth and I'm not even drunk. Let me ask all the

1:55:45

quart for

1:55:48

those that believe in the creator? Okay,

1:55:51

which one? Which?

1:55:56

That's why I made that, bro, You know,

1:55:58

um to

1:56:01

speak to those schools believe in different things.

1:56:03

What would you think your creative would loyalty

1:56:08

or respect? And

1:56:11

this is why I was right. I

1:56:14

think it would always be loyalty. You

1:56:16

think your creator will want loyalty,

1:56:20

So then if that is the case, if

1:56:22

he want loyalty, why wouldn't he just made

1:56:25

everybody to be loyal

1:56:30

If he made us to be loyal, we wouldn't be asking

1:56:32

this question. Wants

1:56:34

us to be laying our own accord. He

1:56:37

said, motherfucker you better just because

1:56:39

how how does a person become

1:56:42

lawyeral you? I

1:56:45

think we're I think we're chasing our tails at this point. Absolutely

1:56:49

not, absolutely not. The

1:56:51

point that's being made is that the

1:56:53

Creator wants you to respect

1:56:56

him. If he wanted

1:56:59

you to be lawyer you, he would have just made you

1:57:01

lower you in a road by he puts you in life

1:57:03

to understand or also

1:57:06

everything that you go through in life. But that's

1:57:08

assuming the Creator. I

1:57:10

want you to believe in one God and one God

1:57:12

only. That's kind of a really

1:57:14

selfish name. But we we we're saying

1:57:16

that's on the premise that the Creator is saying

1:57:18

that respect and loyalty is a thing. The

1:57:22

Creator might not think that this is the thing. If

1:57:25

you're dealing with with the creative. The

1:57:27

scripture it actually speaks so

1:57:30

no, okay, Well, that's why I said, which creator?

1:57:33

Each religion has that with your

1:57:35

god? You know what I'm saying, whichever God? That That's

1:57:38

why I asked you specifically, what if we're talking

1:57:40

biblical thing? Yes, I understand from

1:57:44

change the subject for us, murder

1:57:50

mock you murder muck no,

1:57:53

because that will be spoke for me. I'll

1:57:56

be points sure, brom.

1:58:00

From the beginning of this ship, y'all,

1:58:03

like I'm I was the realest

1:58:05

nigger in this ship. I

1:58:10

need you to know what was going on. I

1:58:14

would like to battle. Rap was

1:58:16

cool until

1:58:18

math came. It

1:58:21

was cool. Yeah, Oh

1:58:24

that's cute. They're dissing each other. That's cute. When

1:58:28

when I came on and serious, it

1:58:30

was intense. It was

1:58:33

what are they gonna talk about? Who are you going,

1:58:36

what's gonna be revealed? What's gonna be you

1:58:38

know what I mean? Became

1:58:42

something else. And as

1:58:44

much as you know, shout out the move for for

1:58:46

his contributory to the culture and

1:58:49

how he still you know, it's

1:58:51

control of that area. But

1:58:54

bro, see this battle recently. If

1:58:57

you don't believe what the nigg

1:58:59

is saying, it's

1:59:01

just entertainment. But when

1:59:03

you believe, no,

1:59:05

that nigga really do that ship, it's

1:59:08

different. You feel the pressure.

1:59:12