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What up is DJ E f N And this is
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drink Champs. When
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I tell you this guest today, man belong
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belongs in the nineties. Like
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his music that you hear now is
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so dope for this era. But I
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could guarantee you if it came out, it belongs
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in the Wou Tang mark deep like
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he his soul is
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from my era. He's
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one of the best lyricists out there when
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you listen to his albums. I
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listened to his album The New Album,
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and it almost felt like a double album because he
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puts so much creativity into it.
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He's probably one of the If you take.
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Nash, you take
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Snoop, you
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take a little bit of Cube, a
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little bit of biz Marcky, and you put them
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together, this
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is what you'll get. A guy who cares
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about his albums, guy who you know
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in between albums. I call him mister
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no Rules. So I don't think he follows
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any rules, and I think that's the rule,
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is not to follow him for the rules.
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Believe this man is
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what we need in hip hop.
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It's exactly what you know. Some
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of these people say, oh man, they don't make it like
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how they used to make it and this, and then here's
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this man standing right in front of us making
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incredible albums. I've never heard a
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mediocre album from this guy. Wow
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he is And he said that,
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he said one time that Nile said he was the
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best.
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And I'm here to.
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Tell you I don't think Niles was gassing you. I
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think he came from from the heart because
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that's who exactly who he is. So in case you don't know
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what the funk we talking about, we talk about the one.
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That's a lot.
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A lot by the way, We've were trying to get you on here
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from the beginning said,
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I don't think. I
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don't think I'm supposed to be.
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You have some ship up here.
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But let me just tell you something. One
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of my blue slides, Yes, thank you.
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That shit reminds me of the world is yours,
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Like you know, what's so dope about you? As
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you remind me of
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an era that's gone, but
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you're doing it in this era, Like I don't
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think anybody has ever done that, Like you
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know what I mean, Like it's bridging the gap, like
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you have an old soul, but everyone
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fucks with you. But let's just talk about blue slides.
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That's what I believe. That's my favorite.
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That's one of my best.
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That's one of my best written materials ever ever
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written. Easy, easy, really
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easy.
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So how did you? How did
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you come up with this? So I had those lyrics?
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Like those lyrics was written a minute ago, like
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in twenty twenty one.
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Oh wow, that's a lot. That's what I do.
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I just like write lyrics, write lyrics, write
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lyrics, and not just find the beat whenever lyrics
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were written and it just.
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Came out that way, Like I
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don't know how I did it.
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I just tapped in, you know, and I
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actually didn't write it down, just
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blurted the words out to the
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mic. Sometimes I just yelled at the wall.
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I like going to the studio eight in the morning and
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you know, tell Juice to press play, and then I just
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yelled at the wall for like thirty minutes,
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forty five minutes, and then we would just
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piece it together everything because I know what I
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want to say, and yeah,
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I just yeah, just yell at the wall, bro
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like and it comes out.
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Have you ever met John Singleton?
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No, I never met John Singles, No, I have met
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Johnson. Okay, I met John Singleton
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with Snoop one time in Miami.
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Out here in Miami at the club. Yeah,
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I met John Singleton with Snoop at the club in
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Miami.
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Because that's the first thing I'm like, from the intro to
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the album, I wrote, like John Singleton
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should be filming.
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Yeah.
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Like it's like it's literally listening
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to you is literally like a movie.
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Like it literally like I
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remember the last time I visually like
5:05
saw Saw it
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was me reading Donald Goings a
5:10
horse Son and then I read a book called Dope
5:12
Fiend, Yeah, and then I listened to ill Matic.
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Yeah.
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Ill Matic brung me in Queensbridge, and I
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didn't realize music could do the same thing
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a book could do because the book broke me there. Now,
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listen to all your stuff, but listen
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to the new stuff.
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I can picture
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LA life.
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Yeah, is that something that you
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do on that pfect Sure it's like a different
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twist of LA because when you think, I always tell people
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they always think of La and like.
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The streets of La.
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Like, oh, like, I'm
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pretty sure somebody here that I have is
5:43
gonna come with like twenty cribs.
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You know what I'm saying.
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I'm just mad and
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like you know that's not really like no
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street dude in any from
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anywhere, like that shit is just be for
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the cameras, like you from the streets you
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from like where we come front, like
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and you know what all we do on the block is joking,
6:04
laugh all day and when something happens then you
6:06
move accordingly. But like I'm
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bringing the feeling of like we're
6:11
actually normal people, like we play
6:13
golf, We like like couldn't
6:15
have a conversation, Like we're all not like
6:18
idiots, Like most of us are not idiots.
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Some of us are just have in worse
6:22
situations. You know, I was blessed
6:24
out, have a mama that worked hard. I wasn't
6:26
on welfare. We just happ't grew up in the ghetto,
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you know, but street Yeah yeah
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yeah, and you know, sports
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and stuff.
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Like that kept me a levelheaded.
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That's why I think all kids should play sports, because
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you know when to leave and when when to stay.
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And if you're there, like you know, you got to turn
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up. But if you can get out of there, get
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out of there, you know, learn you know, you
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got to learn things, and sports give you
6:51
a different type of discipline.
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Now you you was you and Tiger
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had an MTV reality show together.
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Not really Tiger
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shout out to Tiger.
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Yeah, it was like some MTV stuff and
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that shit didn't really work
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out. I really wouldn't like into that type of stuff
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anyway. Show wasn't
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like I don't even know, I was just showing up because
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it's like show up.
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Oh y'all actually tried to do one. It was like yeah, yeah,
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yeah.
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That shit never like worked out, Thank
7:20
God, because that's that's not something I want.
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Like it's
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just not.
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Like me and shout out to Tiger, you know what I mean, and
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holding it down for the city for years.
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So shout out to Tiger, but yeah,
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that's just not my thing. I want
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to be a rapper. I don't want to like I'm not looking
7:38
for like an exit plan either. Like you know, everybody's
7:40
like doing things and then they want to do other
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things and it leads them to the I don't have no
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exit plan, Like I dropped Blue Lips
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and I still got eighteen more to go, Like
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there's no exit plan for.
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Sure.
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Supposed to Coconut Juice video, right, yeah, yeah,
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yeah, what
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was that?
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Like? Shit,
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My boy was trying to get it together.
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He was figuring it out, and I was supportive and
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I jumped in the video.
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What do y'all went to school together?
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Nah?
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I'm older than Tiger, So I
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knew Tiger when he was like sixteen.
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He was just coming out wrapping. My homeboy
8:21
SB and my homeboy Gator. I
8:23
went to school with them and they
8:26
was messing with them heavy, and
8:30
I was just getting into music.
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I really wasn't.
8:32
Into music like that, but I was just getting into it.
8:35
And yeah,
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he I just started trying to rap and
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he was like doing this thing and I was just supporting,
8:43
like you know, the homies brought him around and he
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ended up being my homie, becoming my homie, you
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know what.
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I'm saying, And we
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just vied from there.
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And then you know, he
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did the Young Money situation and
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I was around that for a little.
8:57
Bit because he was on schol first and did
8:59
he win, No, he.
9:00
Was on he was on like
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like an indie major. I don't know what it was called.
9:04
It was like he was like signs of like Fallout
9:06
Boys, Yeah, yeah,
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yeah yeah when he first came
9:12
out. And then he had the Young Money
9:14
situation and I
9:17
was around that, and that's that was That's not my
9:19
vibe really either, like Selight
9:21
real flashy and ship. I
9:24
mean, I loved him as an artist, but it
9:26
just I just I was
9:28
just running behind him almost like Tiger,
9:31
and I really wasn't into that. And I met
9:33
uh TD like
9:36
two thousand and six, and
9:38
that's that was more of me and
9:41
and I never left the studio.
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You know.
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TD reminds me to a certain stint because
9:47
me, me being from the East Coast, New York, you know what I
9:49
mean, we
9:52
were always taught that, you know, the bloods
9:54
and crips.
9:54
Don't get along, and they don't they don't get money together.
9:57
And then you know, you get to hear that, you
9:59
know, top and punches
10:01
like more on the blood side and then you being on
10:04
the crypt side.
10:04
It has ever been uncomfortable situation on
10:06
this.
10:07
The first day I pulled up because I didn't
10:09
know where I was getting myself into. It
10:12
is like, uh, I mean, but it wasn't like
10:14
no pressure. My engineer
10:17
Ali, Yeah, he was bringing me over there. He's like,
10:19
bro, we gotta go fuck with the TV dudes, blah
10:21
blah blah, this is where we should be at blah blah
10:23
blah, trying to figure it out. And
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then I'm all right, cool, let's go. And
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then as soon as we get to the studio,
10:30
before we hop out the car, he like, hey, yo,
10:33
hood get along with us.
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Such a thought.
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He I'm
10:44
like, I'm like, we cool,
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Like we ain't got this like as far away, like
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we were straight and yeah
10:50
I went in there.
10:51
It wasn't nobody on that anyway, you
10:53
know what I mean.
10:54
But you know, you just want to let get
10:56
people heads up type ship. Once I got in
10:58
there, nobody was like like none
11:00
of us was on that, Like you know what I'm saying, We've been
11:02
past that, Like we actually really from where
11:04
we're from. So we all were like
11:06
trying to hit this goal of like success,
11:10
and yeah it wasn't. Nobody tripping on that top,
11:12
never tripped over, but like
11:15
you a grip if anything.
11:17
They loved that mark, you
11:20
know what I mean, showing something. Yeah yeah,
11:22
yeah, like it was. So I went the first
11:24
day and Punch was like, come back, and
11:27
I kept coming back, And next thing you know, I'm living
11:29
there and I'm poor as hell and I'm sleeping on their couch.
11:31
I moved myself in. I moved myself.
11:33
I was not even telling it. I'm living on
11:35
the top couch, but I didn't even know I'm there.
11:38
Three months I done lived in that mother.
11:40
You know what I'm saying, Because
11:44
you know, Queensbridge was the hottest at
11:46
the moment right when I came out.
11:47
Yeah yeah, from down the way.
11:50
But when I used to hang out with Queensbridge people so much,
11:52
it was overshadow my hood. Yeah right,
11:54
So I would come back to my hood, I'll be walking
11:56
around people be.
11:57
Like Queensbridge, nigga, Yeah, don't
12:01
turn around. The people close they shutters and
12:03
I'm like, oh shit. I could never know who it was
12:05
like until.
12:07
I got on Like people were kind
12:09
of mad at me for sucking with another hood, another neighborhood.
12:12
Have you ever been through something.
12:13
Like that because messing with me for another neighbor
12:16
nah, I mean, that's
12:18
what I'm not going for. No disrespect.
12:20
You can say whatever you want to somebody
12:22
else, but in front of me, you're not.
12:24
About to disrespect me.
12:25
I mean, nobody never tried me, and
12:27
in person, I didn't heard people like
12:30
say things like all the time through the grapevine
12:32
like oh, such and such said this, like
12:34
you know, and it's like all right, bro, like such
12:37
and such could have just saw me last week, like
12:40
such and such really, as you know what I mean, why
12:42
are you letting such and such say something to you?
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I think that says more about you, Like you
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know.
12:46
What I'm saying, Like, nobody never got at
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my homies in front of me. They know who to people
12:51
know who to play with. So I mean, like, ain't
12:53
nobody never play with me like that? And
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I don't want to. I don't want to smoke. But
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one thing for sure, keep saying
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that people ain't his discipline as man, You're not gonna
13:02
win.
13:03
They're not gonna win, thank you, damn it.
13:05
Yeah, they're not gonna win. I look.
13:12
First drinking seven days when
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you showed up to the studio to TD,
13:16
what did you what did you see in them that made you say I
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want to I want to stay with this team.
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It was dark first off, it was dark as Ship
13:23
walked in. It was just dark because Jack
13:26
already out.
13:26
At that point, Jay Rock was working.
13:28
Jay Rock was signing them first, right, yeah, yeah,
13:31
and then.
13:32
Jay Rock was in the booth, and
13:34
then No Soul was in the booth sitting
13:37
out.
13:37
Yeah, Jay Rock was sitting out signing. It was real dark.
13:39
Punchers in there that wasn't there.
13:43
And then it was just this beat just
13:45
pop my by like gunshots.
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Shout out to Curtis King. He did
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this beat.
13:51
It was just like gunshots and Ship
13:53
and they like rap on this and I just wrapped
13:56
on it and yeah,
13:58
that was that was it.
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Punch, But I forget how did y'all get introduced
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Ali?
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Okay Ali? Yeah?
14:05
Ali Ali was on my Space or
14:07
something and hit him up on my Space and was like I'm
14:09
an engineer blah blah blah blah blah, and Punch
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answer to or one of
14:14
them. I don't know if it was Punch or Dave
14:17
or who. They answered
14:20
is my space d M and uh yeah
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and me and Ali was like this, so wherever
14:26
Ai went, I was gonna go wherever he was
14:28
going to go. No, no, no, no, he was engineering
14:31
with me. We were just trying to figure things out.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
14:33
We was playing football at West
14:36
West La Junior College.
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Yeah. He was number eighty four, Yeah, eighty
14:39
four ship.
14:45
But the first day of pads he get
14:47
hurt. The first day of pads he
14:49
get hurt. He wasn't. Yeah. I'm like
14:51
all.
14:52
Right, so I'm in, I'm in the receiver,
14:54
like right, I'm doing Madrid, baby, big man. And
14:58
you know what I'm saying, my boy come over here. Like I
15:01
just see a crowd of standing around somebody's.
15:03
Legs flat like this right straight
15:06
out. They're like, that's your
15:08
boy. I'm like, nah, I ain't my boy.
15:11
You know what I mean, the.
15:12
Biggest boy, the biggest motherfuck on the field.
15:14
They're like, that's him, that's that's your boy over
15:16
there. I think he said you do engineering with you.
15:19
I'm like what And I look, because you know, they
15:21
split us all up and I look. I'm
15:23
like then the paramedics coming. I'm
15:27
like, bro, we.
15:28
Just got.
15:31
My boy got hurt. Bright my boy.
15:34
He went to the doctor, homie and
15:36
yeah, I had like a slip dish. That was probably
15:38
the best thing to happen to you for both
15:40
of us, you know what I mean. I went to jail right
15:42
after the season. He got he
15:44
got his legs.
15:46
And all this ship fucked up. He had to
15:48
sit his ass music.
15:51
You know what I mean, and were just like you know what I'm saying.
15:53
We just we just kept it moving
15:55
from there, like yeah, I never looked back,
15:58
you know, music was that was it? Like we're
16:00
doing this music ship. We ain't doing this lame ship.
16:02
No mo fuck sports. The
16:04
streets out that we're doing this music ship.
16:06
We just locked in. You
16:09
has this Monica? Yeah yeah, yeah, you've
16:11
been to Monica?
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Uh no, Oh that's just how
16:14
this this had is hard.
16:22
Listen, you gotta go to Monica. Yeah yeah, yeah.
16:25
I lied to a couple of people and told them I was I
16:27
went to Monica. Somebody gonna see
16:29
this be like my motherfucker telling you what to Monica.
16:31
I was trying to the conversation.
16:33
Mother.
16:34
I was definitely trying to end the conversation.
16:37
Monica is one of the places I was like, you know,
16:39
I have these travel watches, right, the
16:41
only watches that I bring because if
16:43
I losing my don't I don't really care, you know what I mean. I
16:47
regret it bringing travel watches to Monico
16:49
because I was the worst. Everyone
16:52
else had the big boys shit, everybody's
16:54
rich, and Monica like, I felt the poorest
16:56
I've.
16:56
Ever felt in years.
16:58
And yeah, so it's great to feel poor again, you
17:00
know what I mean?
17:02
Damn Ya went to I heard Monica was
17:04
like the main
17:07
don't that means something? Though? Like don
17:09
it means something? Like
17:11
yeah, like it means.
17:17
But school boy Q. Let me just tell you something, man.
17:19
From the beginning we started this show, we wanted to give your
17:21
flowers face to face man, and man, you
17:23
are one of the greats.
17:25
You know.
17:25
We don't want anything to happen to you and then we tell you
17:27
you're great. We want to say that while you are lazy,
17:30
your flowers.
17:36
Snoop Dogg said, it's like it's a Snoop.
17:38
Dogg said, it's like a Grammy because it comes from his people.
17:39
God, damnit, love
17:44
bro, there you go. You know what?
17:46
You know what's so unique about you? Every
17:49
time someone asks you about l A. Yeah,
17:52
you're always giving up games. You are saying you're gonna
17:54
watch that for this artist. You gotta watch them for this artist.
17:56
You always naming people, You always showing
18:00
love to people. How did you develop
18:02
that? How does that?
18:04
I mean?
18:04
Once again? Sports, I mean,
18:08
and you know you
18:10
gotta show love to your teammates. You
18:12
gotta show love to people. And if you ain't good
18:15
enough to hang like and if you scared
18:17
somebody gonna take your positions, it was never
18:19
yours in the first place. Looking at them
18:21
fall, it was never his, I said down on the last album
18:23
too, Like if you fall, it was never yours in the first
18:26
place. If you let somebody knock you out
18:28
your position, like.
18:28
You never had that position.
18:30
You know what I'm saying? Once again, it goes all back down to
18:32
discipline. Motherfuckers ain't got no discipline,
18:35
bro. So motherfucker see somebody
18:37
gassing going up and just hate for no
18:39
reason. It's like for what, like he
18:41
going up because he ain't
18:43
doing as many units as you. It's like,
18:46
bro, okay, and I put my units
18:48
next to fucking jay Z and I
18:50
don't even fucking exist. So it's like, what do
18:52
we measure things. But motherfuckers
18:55
is hard like he hard like he hard like.
18:57
Just let it be, like what
19:00
I'm saying, So at
19:02
some point, just if it's yours, it's
19:04
yours, and you ain't got to worry about ship, sure,
19:07
love shut up.
19:09
Another another thing about you is you
19:12
have some of the dopest features in the game.
19:14
I do.
19:14
I don't watch a lot of cats.
19:16
I'm
19:20
about to go about to go on another
19:22
washing machine run. I've
19:24
been chilling for five years,
19:26
just watching it and observing and
19:28
and like trying to change my life and
19:30
body and ship. You know what I'm saying, Get my body
19:32
to the right point where I want
19:34
to be.
19:35
But I'm ready to play ball and and
19:38
just keep playing.
19:39
Ball right now because I
19:41
think they're making it real easy for people like
19:43
me. I think
19:45
a lot of people are bad, though,
19:47
I think.
19:48
A lot of people are good. But a lot of people
19:50
are scared. I can't what
19:52
you're saying.
19:52
No, not just music, musically period.
19:55
A lot of people are scared to try anything.
19:57
Yeah, but I get it though. You know, at the same
19:59
time, you know, business is business, right,
20:01
and you know, but at some point,
20:04
if you ain't got what you're gonna get out of this ship.
20:07
You've been in this game like X
20:09
amount of years, you probably won't get it, because.
20:12
That's what's unique about this album.
20:15
It's like you just said a lot of people are scared.
20:17
It seems like you wasn't scared at all, Like you were
20:20
taking risks. Like each song sound sounds
20:22
like it's two songs and.
20:23
Onely different sounds
20:26
the same. Like what the
20:28
fuck? What is it that? That was
20:30
the whole thing? Like how do I see music? Right
20:32
now?
20:33
Okay, so everything is thirty second
20:35
clips?
20:35
Right?
20:37
Motherfuckers can't even pay attention to a
20:40
three verses anymore. Motherfucker
20:42
is doing one versus. It's
20:44
like, all right, how do I make this album
20:47
in this time and still be me? It's
20:49
like, oh, I see things in the
20:52
way they see it, fucking forty seconds,
20:54
fifty seconds. If I
20:56
can't get what do I How can I get off something
20:58
in thirty seconds? You know what I'm saying
21:01
thirty seconds at a time. How can I say as much
21:03
as I want in thirty seconds? If I
21:05
can't say as much as I want in thirty seconds,
21:07
then I probably shouldn't be doing this. This
21:10
part of the beat shouldn't
21:12
be rapping or coming up with.
21:14
This concept, you know what I mean.
21:16
So it was just like what can I say an
21:19
X amount of time and from.
21:20
There and how we just built
21:22
the beats. We just built it the beat.
21:24
So but the lyrics pretty much came
21:26
first on this album.
21:28
Changing up to that makes
21:30
sense.
21:31
Yeah, yeah, it's like you know, and
21:34
and still just like shit, I want to do it
21:36
like this, like shit, why
21:38
not Like my blank Face album,
21:41
I did the same thing. Like you know, I
21:43
think, like I said, just rappers just so
21:45
kind of like and
21:47
uh, there's so many of rappers now
21:49
and it's still hell of good rappers, but it's
21:52
just so many now. Me
21:54
doing beat switches, it's like mad people doing
21:56
beat switches still, you know what I'm saying. But
22:00
and I've been doing it, but you know, with
22:02
the game, it is now like my shit is standing
22:05
out a little bit more with it because of just
22:08
the no risk taking of artists.
22:10
You know, they find they pocket and they stay
22:12
in that pocket. And like I said, that's cool
22:15
if you're in it for the business. But
22:18
everybody I know is a fucking millionaires.
22:20
So at this point, so it's like what
22:23
the fuck are we doing now? Like we just like making
22:25
it worse for the younger kids.
22:26
I think. I
22:28
think artists are scared to act their age.
22:31
Yeah, and it's weird
22:33
to me, Like I'm thirty seven, bro,
22:35
I'm not like scared to act thirty seven.
22:38
Like I'm still lit, like I can still do all
22:40
the shit.
22:40
Still I'll run young and still I'll rap
22:43
you whatever you really talk about.
22:44
I'm still way more funnier, did you, brother?
22:46
I dress better, like I look better, like
22:48
getting younger every year, like what you
22:51
hother? Fuck, it's its own dope, you know
22:53
what I'm saying. Like, so like I'm not
22:55
scared to have to live my age,
22:58
like you know what I'm saying. And I think the artists
23:00
are doing that and they doing the younger generation or
23:02
disservice.
23:06
No, She's like it's
23:08
the weirdest ship to me, you know.
23:11
You know that's another reason why I didn't even do press
23:13
before this album, because it's just
23:15
like I don't fit with those
23:18
dudes.
23:19
In the media.
23:20
I don't even I don't even funk with. They're just too
23:22
negative for me. And it's like y'all too old for
23:24
all that. Y'all got to watch y'all
23:26
say y'all can't really get hurt playing with people bro
23:29
like mootherfuckers is putting their life in
23:31
their music. Like you can dislike my music, but
23:33
don't disrespect me though, because I put
23:35
my life and my ship, you know what I mean.
23:37
So when you.
23:38
Disrespect me or disrespect the rapper.
23:40
That's how I feel like you're gonna get at me eventually. You
23:42
know what I'm saying.
23:43
I got caaraderie still with rappers,
23:45
even though you know rappers don't half coaraderie,
23:47
but I do. So if I see somebody say
23:49
some crazy, crazy shit about a rapper, I ain't
23:51
fucking with you, like you know what I'm saying. Like
23:53
I said, you can dislike it, yeah problem,
23:56
Yeah, nobody tripping on that. But the way you
23:59
motherfucker's are be really disrespect
24:02
yeah yeah yeah yeah.
24:03
And I ain't with it.
24:04
And everything is relationship based too, It's
24:07
like that's not how it's supposed to be either.
24:10
So I'm just not with none of it. I just want to
24:12
go all gas and just keep gassing. I'm gonna
24:14
keep gassing gas and gassing, and they're gonna
24:16
come. They're gonna come in the circles and I'm gonna
24:19
keep gassing the ass, and I got, like I
24:21
said, I got eighteen more to go, So
24:23
I'm gonna keep gassing as I'm
24:26
gonna keep.
24:30
Let's talk about Jack in the Box on Vernon and figure
24:32
bro.
24:33
Oh man, that's.
24:36
Man, you go, that's
24:40
that Jack and the Crackstille there.
24:42
Oh yeah, it's there. Yeah, it's there Vernon.
24:48
Man, ain't no, man, Let's
24:52
move on from now, from
24:57
now. But that's that's that's yeah,
24:59
that's you know, I.
25:00
Forget what kind of record you came up with over there.
25:02
I forget. I was just going in through it.
25:06
Move on
25:08
your relationship with Matt Miller.
25:11
Yeah, rest in peace.
25:14
How How did y'all meet?
25:17
We met on tour. This's
25:24
another one that's hard to talk about too. We met on tour
25:28
and we were just we just bonded off the rip,
25:30
you know what I'm saying that as uh, just
25:33
humans, just people, you know what I'm saying.
25:36
I thought he was a funny ass white boy. Thought I was
25:38
a funny ass black dude. We
25:42
just kicked it, you know what I'm saying. He
25:45
was like transitioning his music from
25:48
like uh like white sounding
25:50
like you know, poppy, and he was
25:52
going more towards
25:54
Rapp and he was like, you know, he had so much
25:56
soul, you know, but he just came in
25:59
the game the way he came in, and he was like transitioning
26:03
and I watched him do it and it was just
26:05
like, this dude is crazy and
26:07
I just wanted to, you know, stick
26:09
around and be his homie. I was just happy to be his homie.
26:12
That was my dog. That was like really my dog, Like,
26:16
you know, sad situation, but he's
26:19
living forever. Though he's living
26:22
forever, he's living for.
26:23
Have a moment of silence fall no,
26:26
no, was make some noise for him. Yeah,
26:33
Now you had a duct tail
26:35
and the homie cut off.
26:36
Yeah, and I got kicked out of school. This
26:39
motherfucker dude just light skinned.
26:41
Fuck Okay. I wanted to know what the juntail
26:43
is though, all right, So.
26:46
Man, you had a hair.
26:48
Okay, we call it the tail. Okay.
26:51
So this is this punk motherfucker dude.
26:53
I don't even know his name. He wasn't he wasn't really my
26:55
home. He was my homie. Kind he
26:57
still didn't let it go. Dog, I could tell. I
27:00
got kicked out and all type
27:02
of ship.
27:02
So what happened what happened you in school?
27:04
Gag?
27:04
Yeah, So I'm in school, bro, this
27:08
motherfucker you know, you know they.
27:10
Do nap time. This is like a kindergarten.
27:13
Yeah. I fucked him over
27:16
too. I fucked him over. I choked
27:18
him and Ship bleeding
27:22
and Ship I was the first time I've seen him over.
27:24
I'm like, oh my god.
27:26
But he cut my duck jail while I was sleep
27:29
and I
27:32
woke up and yeah, and I just went to go plug
27:34
my ducktail and it wasn't there, and
27:37
then it was on his desk and
27:42
then he looked at me and he kind of like laughed,
27:45
and I just beat the ship out of him, bing
27:48
bing ban. We like five, like five or
27:50
six whatever, and then b b b Bean
27:52
and I just pleave in the craziest head lock.
27:54
I was like trying to snatch him out of the chair.
27:56
I'm a little kid, bro, and I just see
27:59
him blooding out and he just yeah, and he's like yelling
28:01
crazy like he's like you
28:03
know what I'm saying. I'm like shit, Like
28:05
when you started yelling crazy, and Ship, I'm
28:08
like sh but theeah, the teacher
28:10
came in and uh broke
28:12
it up, and I was at like some
28:14
like Catholic school or some ship,
28:17
and she gave me a whooping like.
28:20
Yeah, like hit me like a ruler, pow
28:23
fu.
28:24
Yeah.
28:25
I guess my mom didn't know they did that there.
28:29
My mom came in and like like she said, tripped
28:31
on the whole place, y'all what my god,
28:34
like had a whole fit, and they like we gotta get him,
28:36
and his mam was just off the chain, like y'all
28:38
get kicked me
28:40
about that, motherfucking I went to school fifty
28:43
second fifty second year.
28:44
I mean where I wanted to go in the first like let
28:46
me, I'm just just right here on the corner. Just let
28:48
me go to school.
28:49
My mama always tried to do that weird shit. Oh
28:51
no, you can't go to the school and
28:54
a ghetto. She'll send me to some other school.
28:57
And then then eventually she sent me
28:59
back to the school in
29:01
the in the ghetto, in the in the hood. And
29:03
it's like, why why you be doing that though
29:06
you see me to a whole other school
29:08
that's the same thing. You know, this is another
29:10
ghetto, right Like she
29:13
I don't know why she would do that because.
29:15
I always wondered how you got the name school
29:17
boy. Right, but then I listened to your
29:20
your lyrics, I can tell you have education.
29:23
Yeah, yeah, for sure. How did you get the name school
29:25
boy? Literally all right, so it's it's
29:27
like an atandra. So the school
29:29
boy is a pimp used to well,
29:31
I ain't gonna you know, well he
29:35
used to be a pimp back in the days.
29:37
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah,
29:40
dude the name school boy from my hood. Okay,
29:42
he was dope. Dope dude teached
29:45
him. Also, it
29:48
was at a point I had good grades
29:50
and there was a point where I had ship grades.
29:52
You know, I leave that out a lot,
29:54
but it was a.
29:55
Point where I had really really good grades
29:57
and a lot of homies would call me school boy because I was
29:59
like really good in sports, good
30:03
grades. Yeah yeah, good grades and
30:06
like you know, always squabbling
30:08
and like not really like you
30:10
know, from that cloth.
30:12
So they like, uh called me school
30:14
boy.
30:15
So it was more so like a playoff the pimp
30:17
on fig and like me people following
30:19
me school boy for good grades and ship being
30:22
an athlete, you know, motherfuckers would encourage
30:24
me like to be take that take
30:26
that sports ship far, take that sports
30:28
sportship far, because we gotta go far.
30:31
Because a lot of football didn't go too far.
30:33
Yeah, you didn't go too.
30:34
Far Miami, like
30:37
y'all take football very soon for sure, baseball
30:40
too.
30:40
I was really nasty at baseball, real nasty
30:43
baseball.
30:44
Yeah, shortstop stop.
30:46
Yeah it was dogs. No more
30:51
trophies in baseball, in basketball. Yeah
30:54
yeah, but you are stish. Yeah you got
30:56
that.
30:58
It's not part.
31:04
Right.
31:08
Hold on, okay, Oh, I
31:10
got I got some ship. I got
31:12
some ship.
31:13
You want to go because I was about
31:15
to talk about fish Land fish Land.
31:18
They sucked you up.
31:20
I mean fish lad you know, shout
31:22
the fish Lands a staple of the block.
31:23
Man.
31:24
You still from there?
31:25
No, not there.
31:26
I used to steal from fish
31:30
Land.
31:30
Yeah, but fish Land is done for They shut
31:33
that down.
31:34
You shut it down, shut it on.
31:39
They got got the word, I got the word. Got the word.
31:41
And my plan though, is I want
31:43
to tear I want to tear all that ship down
31:45
over there.
31:46
I want to put a boxing gym and.
31:49
Like uh sports, like something
31:52
just just for the community, like a healthy
31:54
thing like wow fitness
31:56
type thing wow over there, because
31:59
I don't know. Still,
32:02
when I go over there every now and then
32:04
and I look at it, I'm just like this shit
32:06
can be utilized way better. It's just a
32:08
bunch of food ship that keeps changing
32:10
every two years. It's like a new
32:12
food spot name. It's like, man, we
32:15
need to put like a gym
32:17
here. I need to put something, but I need people
32:19
to help me with it.
32:20
It's not just just.
32:21
Me because it's more to it, and
32:24
we probably won't profit for a while.
32:25
And I know it. You know that's the thing.
32:28
The community.
32:28
Yeah, but it's like I'm
32:31
trying to get it together. I've been talking to a couple
32:33
of people and I'm trying to make that happen. But
32:37
unfortunately another
32:39
business will have to leave. But
32:41
I think a couple of those businesses should
32:44
leave because they're not serving us right anyway?
32:47
Is that is that Parker City? South Central? What
32:49
is that? Yeah? They call it south La.
32:50
Now they gave it a new little twilet. Yeah
32:54
yeah, south Central. Yeah, we
32:56
still call the south Central more than
32:59
you know what I'm saying. And from the eighties
33:01
to the night, you call that ship south Central.
33:03
I'mna be honest. I know it's gonna sound a little
33:05
crazy, but I've always
33:08
been proud of LA because because
33:10
how y'all right.
33:13
We turned out up
33:17
motherfucker's is gonna go up. That's one thing
33:19
for sure about Like motherfucker is gonna go up.
33:22
Motherfucker going. Like as divided
33:24
as we are, once we come together, it's
33:26
it's scary even seeing
33:29
that. I remember watching the riot about that little
33:31
little little kid, like and just
33:33
seeing it on the corner, like just
33:35
seeing all that ship, like it was the craziest
33:37
shit ever. Like I never seen
33:39
so many black people together. They
33:41
were just doing dumb ship though, But
33:44
I mean it was just still like, okay, this is
33:47
you know, I wasn't thinking then, but now that I look,
33:49
it's like, okay that it is a.
33:51
Chance, all right, Like the Alabama
33:53
fight. Yeah yeah, yeah,
33:56
yeah yeah.
33:56
Hit the white woman with a chair, I said, holy ship, Yeah
33:59
yeah, got real like and
34:01
they didn't even know each other and they just
34:03
got together.
34:03
It was like what I'm saying, like it's you know, but
34:06
still though we shouldn't rioting
34:09
and ship and like destroy your own communities
34:11
like unity.
34:12
Yeah.
34:12
There was also a lot of a lot of Latinos, a lot of Mexicans.
34:14
My grandfriends lived in Newood,
34:17
your grandparents riding They lived in the
34:19
old at the time, and I called them during the riots
34:22
and they said the.
34:22
TV only only showing Black folks said,
34:25
the Mexicans is blocking on the want you want TV?
34:28
Tell your grandparents.
34:31
Ship, bro, Blacks, I
34:33
don't know, Bro, I always been
34:35
cool with Mexicans, Like this is like some new ship.
34:37
Now we're like, it's like for
34:42
sure, yeah that's his story, that's
34:44
what yeah. Yeah, But like they it
34:46
can't it carried over.
34:47
To the streets like it was never like that.
34:50
I've been like all our neighbors is Latinos,
34:52
like it's fu l a, like how the
34:55
funk we like beefing with, Like Mexicans
34:57
are like it's the but
35:01
you know they like put extras on it. Now, you know, it's
35:03
like these small All it takes is two
35:06
people to do something and all
35:08
of a sudden, you know, right.
35:10
Somebody tweets it and it
35:12
just starts a war.
35:13
When crime happens all the time,
35:15
bro, Like crime happens in
35:17
places where they crime happens like motherfucker,
35:20
Black and Mexicans been robbing each other since
35:23
the beginning of Black and Mexicans and being
35:25
around each other like this, the fucking ghetto
35:27
people get robbed, you know what I'm saying. But
35:30
they make it seem like it's a race thing, Like
35:32
no, it's not a fucking race thing. The black
35:35
dude got ribbed bro by the Mexican cat,
35:37
or the Mexican dude got robbed by the black
35:39
cat because guess what, motherfuckers get
35:41
robbed over here because we don't have no fucking jobs,
35:44
We don't have no opportunity. And you had something
35:47
that I wanted and it could have gave
35:49
me a little boost right quick, so I did
35:51
it.
35:52
That's the reality of it. But they make
35:54
it like.
35:55
There's some race shit when it's like, bro, like
35:58
everything ain't filmed also too, and
36:01
black people commit more crimes
36:03
on black people, and Mexicans commit more crimes on
36:05
Mexicans, and whites commit more crimes on whites.
36:07
Is like, you know, but they try to sow
36:09
any little thing.
36:10
They do, like,
36:12
oh, look see, y'all
36:15
need to get the blacks together.
36:16
It was like the fuck you get the blacks together,
36:18
y'all just got just as many motherfuckers
36:20
in jails us. Like you know what I'm saying,
36:23
Like, bro, we all need.
36:25
To get it together, Like the blacks.
36:27
Need to get it together.
36:29
Y'all in jail too.
36:33
So let me ask them all these
36:35
great features you have, what do you prefer?
36:37
You prefer them in the studio or
36:40
you sitting the record.
36:42
I love in the studio, but
36:45
some people would rather send the record because
36:47
they're busy. Nah, they just I
36:50
don't just don't vibe everybody in the studio.
36:52
Yeah.
36:52
Yeah. And then people might say that I'm
36:54
saying I
36:57
understand I don't want the person.
37:00
Yeah, sometime, motherfucker, I'll be talking to damn
37:03
much or sometimes I won't talk enough.
37:05
Like you like the music, you don't like the person that's there.
37:08
Yeah, yeah, you don't want to even know.
37:10
And I like working in the daytime, like I'm
37:12
I'm early and then I'm in the studio
37:14
about eight thirty eight o'clock in the morning.
37:16
In the morning.
37:17
Yeah yeah, like ty one, No, yeah
37:20
foruns like that too. No, there's a lot of people like
37:22
that.
37:22
Now.
37:22
I think it's like switching, but some people
37:24
haven't switched yet and they be like calling.
37:27
You like, oh, it's like ten o'clock. It's
37:29
like I'm just sleeping at like nine o'clock.
37:31
Bro.
37:31
It's one of my closest friends, but he started
37:34
his sasions at twelve at night.
37:35
Yeah, like that's out. It's
37:37
out, bro, it's out.
37:38
Bro.
37:39
You know much weed?
37:39
I small, but with the kids
37:41
over here this I don't watch something
37:44
like Bro, I'm cook.
37:45
You take grown man naps yet? No I
37:47
don't.
37:48
I can't take naps.
37:49
Yeah, you don't take naps.
37:50
When you when
37:52
you hit forty, it's called grown man.
37:54
I haven't, ye know, I mean three more years?
37:56
Yeah yeah, yeah, you hit more years.
37:58
It's called a grown man before. It be like, I'm
38:00
lazy what I'm doing taking naps in the daytime.
38:02
But if I want to go to club LB, I need to take
38:05
two naps in the daytime.
38:06
To because you're getting that chicken
38:08
down the chicken. I
38:11
ain't you ca the chili chili chili
38:14
chili.
38:14
But no, I haven't been to a club in
38:17
years. Yeah, I can't stand
38:20
it no more.
38:21
Staying up at night.
38:24
You have legendary listening
38:26
parties only a listening parties invite
38:29
only, or the who's
38:31
Who's come out?
38:32
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean because listening
38:34
parties like I remember doing
38:36
one at for Oxymoron and
38:39
people didn't give a fuck. There
38:41
was another motherfucker getting shady walking around
38:43
playing music. I got Ray Kwan
38:46
on the stage moothfuckers and
38:49
turn around look at me, and then turn back
38:51
around and do something. I'm like, what the fuck?
38:53
At least they wasn't just doing like that.
38:56
That's not that was a different time. Motherfucker
38:58
was just very happy to be out side. And
39:01
I was like and I was mad. And
39:03
then my boy told me from an interscope,
39:06
he's not there anymore.
39:09
This is all list parties are.
39:10
This is great. Yeah, And I'm like, he's
39:12
like, look at this turnout. It's great. I'm like, bro, nobody's
39:15
listening to the music. We're listening like
39:17
they're just in there getting shaded.
39:18
Yeah, and it's like, you know, it's like thirty people
39:21
in the front that only care and everybody else
39:23
in the back just chilling Like
39:25
I don't get it.
39:26
But if that invite only that, No, that was.
39:28
My Then after that, I was like,
39:30
all right, we only do an invite people
39:32
come with that want to hear it, hear it whoever
39:35
it serves or serves, because I'm not you
39:37
know, I don't know, putting that juju
39:39
on your ship. Like people that don't
39:42
even give a fuck just want to be there, Like I don't
39:44
even want them around me, Like you know, what I'm saying,
39:46
Like it's like getting posted by certain
39:48
blogss, Like why does blog post me? Yeah,
39:52
you will never post me, motherfucker you posted,
39:54
Like, don't post me, dude.
39:56
You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I mean?
39:58
Like I should have given you the I
40:00
wrote the cooties.
40:01
They're coming to get me running,
40:03
like I can't stan dude,
40:06
these bro these dudes all got the cooties.
40:08
Broo, I ain't got time for it.
40:11
Okay, I think it's quick time. Let's
40:13
got it. Y'all got quick time? Yeah, Yes, it's
40:15
gonna be a fun one. I have a feeling.
40:17
So you guys play the rule. We're
40:19
gonna give you two choices. You
40:21
pick one. We're not drinking,
40:24
but if you say both or neither, like
40:26
if you don't answer, if you don't pick one, we drinking.
40:29
We all drinking. We all take a shot, Okay,
40:31
but if you don't want to take shots, you can just someone
40:34
to take a shot.
40:34
I'll do this one. I'll do this one. I'll drink for this
40:36
one. Ready,
40:39
Jamie, get my shot.
40:44
The motherfuckers really do this, Yeah,
40:46
we do. We do.
40:48
This is a long game, so we take
40:51
short It's.
40:53
Gonna add them's kill.
40:56
I remember when you first came, when
40:58
y'all first came out, y'all was doing the.
41:01
Eight years this month? Uh, what
41:03
was this ship talk
41:06
about? Want to bring that back up?
41:09
No, listen, that's the worst. That's the worst.
41:11
I still got one at the Crystal and Sonning got
41:14
but when COVID here because it came from China, they.
41:16
Banded it came over. We
41:19
let it go because it was
41:21
a sign.
41:23
Yeah, this
41:26
one, this one on, I believe he's drinking,
41:28
jam Are you ready?
41:30
We get him a shot? Though? Before we even what I'm saying?
41:33
Well, wait, I'm pretty sure my answer everything? All
41:35
right, Yeah, no, I'm pretty sure on this one.
41:37
You might be a little still, don't leave the witness man,
41:40
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. All right, cool,
41:42
but I want him to be stuck on this one. Not a cool
41:45
you ready, Jamie?
41:48
All right? Cool? Okay?
41:52
Snoop Dog or ice Cube Snoop
41:55
Okay, I was shocked. Tupac
41:58
or Nipsey Part Answer
42:01
and Everything, nas.
42:03
Or jay Z.
42:08
Nas is my favorite rapper, but you also
42:10
went to the jay Z is also
42:12
my favorite rapp.
42:13
It was just with him, he had reboxed. You got stories with
42:15
anybody? Please like expand on anybody.
42:17
Yeah, I say,
42:19
nas, you're gonna go now corrupt
42:23
or dazz corrupt doctor
42:26
Dre or DJ quick doctor Dre
42:30
kiss or fabulous kiss.
42:34
We're not gonna drink nothing.
42:35
I'm not gonna li. I
42:38
mean, me and kids got it. Me
42:40
and kids got a.
42:41
Song together, okay.
42:42
Exhibit or rass cast exhibit
42:45
n w A or Wu tank Klan.
42:49
Bro y'all. I gotta stop it like
42:52
that's sounds like both. That sound like both to be.
42:56
I'm gonna be honest. I
42:58
didn't listen to d you A.
43:00
You didn't listen to I
43:02
wanted to.
43:03
Say, you got to shout no,
43:05
no, no, I'm going I
43:07
wang okay you because
43:10
I didn't listen to n w A, I look I to
43:12
take him as individuals though.
43:13
You gotta take a shot for the West, car Yeah,
43:16
the West, for the West, for the West.
43:19
But bu tang over n w A, Wow,
43:22
I would have thought that to take a shot.
43:24
I mean the way I wrap you said, yeh yeah, I
43:27
wrapped.
43:28
I'm not scared to wrap off pocket and out
43:30
of in the in the in the zones because
43:32
of ghost face, and you take the next ringkon
43:34
and all them.
43:35
You know what I'm saying, the ghetto boys
43:37
or U g K U g K Minister
43:41
Society or Boys in the.
43:42
Hood Minister Society.
43:43
Shout out the tyring man, it's my boy, fifty first
43:46
Street, Caine, fifty first Street.
43:48
Get him up here, man, Kendrick Lamart
43:50
Or Oh,
43:53
you're gonna put.
43:53
J Rock in there, like
44:00
I take that back.
44:01
Drink drink James
44:03
drink and Jay Rock Ken.
44:05
Drinck and j Rock. You're not about
44:07
to put my brothers.
44:08
You're not about to put me against my brother Just
44:10
gonna shi.
44:11
Yeah, that
44:18
was a good one.
44:20
Before you get the second one. By the way, shout
44:22
out to or the TV. I love I love you your
44:25
er, you know what I mean. I love how you hold each other down.
44:29
You got it.
44:31
Doggy style of me against the world. Doggy
44:35
style? What okay, y'all
44:37
gotta come with some bad ones.
44:38
Okay, okay, okay, doggy style
44:41
me I fun with be against the world.
44:42
But doggy style what dog
44:45
style changed the game? Oh my good god, where
44:47
were you when you first heard ship? I know
44:50
I was youngest. What was going on?
44:54
Me being bad? Trying to get some pussy at
44:56
like six or seven, you
44:58
know what I mean, trying to get them, trying
45:01
to get some pussy at seven, I
45:04
don't know.
45:08
I was
45:11
trying to get some trying
45:14
to I ain't
45:17
getting them. I'm trying
45:20
at least you speaking about it.
45:23
Kanye West or Forrell, whichever
45:27
category you want, wow category.
45:31
I love them both the SAME's Wow.
45:34
I didn't think y'all were actually getting.
45:37
Wo.
45:40
I love both those dudes. I work
45:43
with both of them too. And yeah,
45:46
and you work with for Real, Yeah you got
45:48
ship working with Kanye too?
45:49
Yeah? Yeah.
45:57
Classics Friday
45:59
or car Walk Friday?
46:04
Okay?
46:06
Battle Cat or Mustard, Ah,
46:10
I'm going Mustard, Okay in
46:13
my general I mean I love battle Cat. Battle
46:15
Cat is a legend, is
46:18
from my generation, Okay, I respect.
46:20
I gotta go with the legend to now. I
46:22
mean, yeah, a legend for sure.
46:24
He just you know, I'm just saying, like I
46:27
really didn't want to pick, but I'm gonna
46:29
go with my generation. Go Mustard, big
46:31
Al or Biggie Smalls Big
46:34
Small is easy, Larry.
46:37
June, skip One King or
46:40
who King, t ord c the
46:44
shadiest.
46:45
Can somebody quit work better than Yeah?
46:49
Yeah, I washed that. Oh
46:52
what's the other nigga?
46:53
I'm in love with the Code Goldsman T Genesis.
46:55
I'll wash him too. He's not.
46:57
My mind is a little different from them. Okay,
47:00
it's a little different. We stumped they
47:02
like Kurt walking ship and you stumped.
47:05
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we like we got a different
47:07
groove. We've got a different
47:09
way, different groove. And yeah they know
47:12
that ship. Don't compare it.
47:13
To what we do know, so top
47:16
not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, no,
47:19
he can't funk with me. Shout
47:23
my boy, man,
47:26
I was stuffy. Man, I'll stuff you know.
47:29
He can't funk with me. Man, but very
47:34
dum dump skip
47:36
skip ship man, right here. You
47:39
know what I mean. I'm gonna make it happen right here and say
47:41
you know I mean, I'm cold with it. I'm cold. I'm
47:43
like skates, man, I'm like, I'm
47:45
on ice skates. You know what I'm
47:48
like. You know what I mean, I'm on ice skates.
47:50
They can't fun with I've never heard
47:52
nobody coughing it against dumb.
47:55
I don't see whatever.
47:56
Yeah, shout out to dumb though.
47:58
I'm a big fan, So.
48:00
I forget what I forget
48:02
what I mean I wasn't on the tour.
48:04
I went to go see it and they brung
48:06
du Sea out for a segment. He just came out and
48:08
he just skipped through the mall.
48:10
Yeah.
48:11
Yeah, I didn't know what he was
48:13
saying. I just was like, like,
48:16
yeah, he told that. Yeah.
48:18
Yeah.
48:19
I never really met dum Man. No,
48:22
Man, I want to meet Cube too. I met C before,
48:24
but I was it was early on in my career.
48:26
I don't think he really knew Man. I love
48:29
Q too, even though I
48:31
picked somebody over to c Cube
48:33
is like, you know, it was Snoop and Cuban,
48:35
and you know it's it's Snooped and cute for
48:37
me.
48:38
Literally, Harlem
48:40
Nights are coming to America. Harlem
48:43
Nights, okay and
48:45
y C or Miami. I'm staying out of this. Yeah
48:50
deep iness, motherfucker, I
48:56
can't make eye contact on this one side.
48:58
Listen, listen, man shot,
49:02
No fuck that New York hip
49:06
hop man. That's New
49:10
York and hip hop Larry
49:13
junor Dom Kennedy. Why
49:15
are doing that shot?
49:18
Take a shot? There we go, but
49:20
a big shot shot.
49:24
But let me say this, Dom
49:33
Kennedy is one of the ones from Man.
49:36
He needs a statue on
49:39
the in the fucking Lamurt Park. I
49:43
vote that that he gets a fucking
49:46
statue of Lemurt Park. You know what I'm saying,
49:48
that's it. Don't get more lay than
49:50
Don and Larry
49:53
june Is. I just did a
49:55
record with Jim Pop up right quick. Yeah that's
49:57
hard you know from the Yah
49:59
I love Yay so yeah,
50:04
but you know, Dom, you need a statue though.
50:06
I love how you always get people they fly. Don't
50:09
need a statue. A lot of that's l
50:11
A, that's la, that's l A.
50:14
That generation.
50:16
Come on, bro, we used to love We still
50:18
love Dom. But you're saying, like, bro,
50:21
like you know, never forget
50:23
what motherfuckers have done for the
50:26
city and ship like that, Like he's done
50:28
a lot for the city when it was it was dry.
50:30
You know.
50:33
Oh PM, shout out to Dome man. I
50:35
haven't seen him in a while, but lessons
50:37
and peace to him straight up podcasts
50:40
or radio podcasts.
50:42
I like that that's made some noise for him.
50:44
Man.
50:44
Yeah, I
50:47
was like, nobody ever wanted my generation
50:49
never wanted the radio.
50:51
We ain't worse, We don't need to
50:53
be honest, You'll generation finished the radio. Yeah,
50:55
yeah, we hated that.
50:57
Your generation, we hated that off the streams,
50:59
and you're up the streams, y'are.
51:01
Down loaded the radio
51:04
radio, man, they did it's dirty too.
51:06
They made us do all this ship and made
51:08
us do like radio. Man.
51:11
That's what I was like, Bro, why y'all doing
51:13
this? Drop some people ship?
51:16
Now we don't now you
51:19
know what I mean? The art gonn always
51:21
win, bro.
51:22
The radio, yeah, you're trying to for
51:24
you, It's like, what the fuck?
51:26
Bro?
51:26
Like even my radio in
51:29
l A, like I dropped this album. Bro, it
51:31
was stations from other places
51:34
posting my album before LA radio is
51:38
And it's like, this is why I don't funk with y'all.
51:40
You know, shout out the big boy and them though big
51:42
boy, you know, like I have nothing. They don't
51:44
have nothing to do with that ship. You know what I'm saying,
51:46
Like they have nothing to do.
51:47
It's like, and.
51:50
Let me give a shout to all of them. H just
51:52
incredible all them. But all that's
51:55
that's that's that's that's sucking it up.
51:57
Baker boys. Yeah, keV
52:00
aut them.
52:01
I actually hit bo Kevin told him
52:03
to jump on board. He didn't want to jump on board. And
52:06
then I saw him in an interview.
52:07
So we're gonna go.
52:09
But yeah, yeah, motherfuckers
52:11
is uh yeah, they need us now, everybody
52:14
need us.
52:15
And I want more artists to understand that that.
52:18
They need us.
52:19
Everybody need us.
52:20
They sit there and they talk about us, bro, like
52:23
you need to get on the same page at some point,
52:26
like and uh, you know, like
52:28
understand that they need us all these platforms,
52:31
streaming, radio, everything,
52:34
podcasts, No disrespect.
52:36
You are artists, y'are artists, Like.
52:38
You know what I'm saying, but just saying like,
52:40
but like motherfuckers sit up there and talk
52:42
about us all day and then act like they don't need
52:44
us, Like but that's their whole shit, right,
52:47
And it's mad weird to me, Like you know what I mean,
52:50
Like I just don't get it, like the yeah,
52:54
Like I just don't get it. I
52:56
just don't get what the fuck is going on.
52:58
I don't worry about it. You
53:05
rather be loved or
53:08
feared.
53:10
Loved me too, Yeah,
53:13
I don't want people to fear me. That's like people
53:16
hurt you. They fear you, that'll
53:19
check you out, that can check you out. People
53:22
can dislike you, but they love you and they have that
53:24
love for you, and they just walk away from me. But
53:27
that fear when somebody's scary, that's a lot
53:29
of Definitely, I
53:33
don't want to be feared. I want to be loved,
53:35
you know. I also want to be respected too though,
53:38
but you know that comes, like I said, once again, with discipline.
53:40
People know who to play with. Nobody never Nobody
53:43
never played with me.
53:43
So I'm blessed and
53:46
hopefully you know, nobody do play
53:48
with me because I'll be at home with my kids and ship.
53:50
So you're
53:53
looking at the wrong one, bro like not
53:56
me, like be a math or
53:58
snowfall.
54:00
Snowfall l ah,
54:02
that's my man free way wiki right.
54:04
Yeah, yeah, I mean I mean based off
54:06
loosely based. Yeah, they don't. They don't want to give
54:09
my boy the chip, say lo my
54:11
man real.
54:12
Life dumps Ricky Ricky.
54:14
I'm talking about the guy who plays him.
54:17
I've seen him one time at a Tyler show. You
54:19
know, he's hey,
54:22
Mike, like what I
54:25
didn't need him? I didn't mean, but I saw
54:27
him.
54:28
Them
54:30
You're like, you expect him to be like up Cot.
54:34
Like, hey Mike, You're like, what the fuck you
54:36
made Australian?
54:40
You made him Australian you know what I mean, like
54:42
he had to. I
54:46
was just like, holy, you
54:49
know, you.
54:49
Know what I'm I don't know, okay,
54:55
biz markey ol D b oh dB.
54:58
I took from him to so y'all
55:01
have that in common?
55:03
Yeah?
55:03
Yeah, I love o dB. Yeah,
55:08
rest one or rock cap? Oh
55:12
shot a shot, look
55:14
shot full time? I
55:16
look that the
55:19
left hand my man, m hmm, too
55:22
short, sugar free forty you
55:24
changed it up? Bang
55:27
bang Niner game forty forty
55:30
water forty man sugar
55:34
who was on that? That's my o G, that's my OG.
55:36
He actually called me and like, Yo, how you doing?
55:39
He called me not too long ago, I mean a
55:42
couple of months ago, and he's like, Yo,
55:44
how you doing?
55:45
Like I'm straight.
55:47
I'm like, what's up.
55:48
I'm thinking like going a regular He's like no, I'm just like
55:51
how you doing?
55:51
Like you're you're straight. Like let's let's link
55:54
up and like do some Niner ship. And I'm like, all right,
55:56
yeah, let's do it. Yeah.
55:58
Yeah, you never did a record forty
56:00
Yeah. Yeah, We've done a couple in the same studio
56:02
together. Nah. I was always saying funny
56:05
his helf because he writes his rhymes on his stomach. So
56:08
he's of God, like he'plain
56:11
that he came.
56:17
No, no, this is my homie. What are you talking about? Like
56:20
me and him, I'm like the East Coast
56:22
slang guy. He's the West Coast. We
56:24
go to to the studio, tell him
56:26
to come to my studio. He actually this like I
56:28
don't want to say with New York. He just goes there,
56:30
does his business and that's it. So I'm telling
56:33
him to come to the studio. He comes to the studio. He
56:35
brings this called Roscoe
56:38
Carlo Rossi. Anybody notice
56:41
ye cheap ass
56:43
one, cheap as one. He brung a whole two
56:46
gallons. So I'm looking like this is before
56:48
drink champ. So I'm looking like, what's wrong with
56:50
this guy? Like I'm not drinking.
56:53
I'm not drinking that ship. He's
56:55
like, no, he take a sip, don't worry. So I took
56:57
a sip.
56:58
He got me. I can tell me this
57:01
to me? He got me.
57:02
I was like, sure, Coloradze is the ship. And
57:04
he's like, I went from this is whack to
57:06
Coloradze's and ship worst hangover
57:08
ever. Right, So then we going
57:11
to So he goes in the booth and
57:13
We're like, Yo, where the fuck is he at because we can't
57:16
see him.
57:17
We're like, where did he go?
57:18
And he'll he'll lay down and
57:21
he'll listen to the beat and he'll
57:24
just write the lyrics just like that.
57:25
Oh you mean, like on the floor lane down. I thought when
57:27
you said, it's not like you was going like.
57:29
No, such, Okay,
57:35
What I mean was he lays on this stuff?
57:37
Yeah, came back.
57:38
I can see.
57:39
I can see how that. I was like, what
57:42
do you mean? Like yeah, but but that was like
57:44
the most unique ship I've ever seen.
57:46
Like, yeah, forty to
57:48
go, man, that's that's let's go.
57:50
Yeah, that's that's that's that's super go New
57:53
Jack City or King of New York, New
57:56
Jack City, Rap
57:59
City or Yo to be Raps Rahap
58:01
City, Rap
58:04
City, Jay.
58:06
Rock or apps at another
58:08
one of those. You want me to be drunk, Yeah,
58:13
man, I'm
58:15
not.
58:20
I'm never figuring. They better than all
58:22
me, all three of them better than me. I
58:24
love your modesty, humbleness. I mean, it's
58:27
the truth. But I'm not
58:29
even jogging. It's the truth.
58:30
And it's the last one that you take, the shot. That's the last one that we
58:32
get back to the interview. Loyalty or
58:34
no no, no, no, okay, okay,
58:36
loyalty or respect.
58:42
Loyalty because I can ignore somebody
58:44
that don't respect me and
58:48
go back to the you know, the fear of things. You
58:50
don't respect me, then it's the purpose
58:52
of me trying to like what
58:54
I'm what am I gaining like out of trying
58:57
to like prove something to you.
58:58
You don't even fuck with me.
58:59
It's like you run it into the fires,
59:01
like you just like kick it and use the fire
59:03
stingers shire just like the
59:06
coodies that come in to get me running and you get
59:08
the funk out of there. You know what I'm saying, you
59:10
don't respect me. Whatever loyalty
59:13
is is like I said once again, motherfucker may
59:15
be mad at you, but you're gonna stay
59:17
down.
59:18
I say, no, now,
59:23
one thing, one thing about you
59:25
that I know. We spoke about it a little bit earlier. We touched
59:27
on it was I remember a time
59:29
after Nas made Illmatic, he
59:32
made I believe.
59:33
I am after that, right? I am after that?
59:35
It was written it it
59:38
was written between
59:41
it was written and I forget
59:43
what other album. I used to hang with Nads
59:45
all the time and
59:47
we used to walk around and people to be like when the fun
59:50
was the next album? Because you know people have Twitter. That
59:52
was the Twitter back. They
59:55
were yelling, yelling
59:57
at him, Robert looking like yo, like
1:00:00
we thought it was just like Queen's people and
1:00:03
not for nothing, let
1:00:07
no one rest his process. To
1:00:10
me, the only artist like that in
1:00:12
this generation period,
1:00:16
it's.
1:00:16
You Ken
1:00:19
Drink Kendrick as well. It
1:00:21
feels like it's a TD thing.
1:00:23
I mean, yeah, we got a problem and they blame
1:00:25
it, always blame it on Top and I'm gonna
1:00:27
be honest, it's not Top fault.
1:00:29
It's y'all being overcreated artists. I wouldn't
1:00:31
blame it on Top.
1:00:32
Bro were top
1:00:35
games from telling Kendrick
1:00:38
Lamar he can't drop album.
1:00:40
No, he don't gain nothing.
1:00:41
It's fucking Kendrick Lamoyre what this top game?
1:00:43
From telling the Scissors she can't drop album?
1:00:45
This is black album? Yeah,
1:00:47
like what does he gain from it? You know,
1:00:50
any game? He should be throwing
1:00:54
us under, you know what I mean?
1:00:56
But you know, I'm
1:00:58
here to take some fly off Top and
1:01:01
he never told
1:01:04
us, you know, has he ever said maybe you need another?
1:01:06
Of course?
1:01:07
Like he's a fucking yeah,
1:01:09
like my engineer telling me that too. Kendrick
1:01:12
sometimes tell me that too, like Jay Right tell me
1:01:14
that too, you know, like
1:01:16
my producer tell me that too.
1:01:18
Like so yeah.
1:01:18
Sometimes you may say, yeah, you need another record, but
1:01:21
I mean like like saying like, oh,
1:01:23
you can't drop this year at all.
1:01:25
Don't even think about it.
1:01:26
It's like insane and me being like in
1:01:28
my thirties and allowing that it would be
1:01:30
even way more crazy, like all
1:01:34
everything about it is out of pocket. But
1:01:37
I don't suggest your artists take five
1:01:40
years off.
1:01:42
Unless you gotta let me just take.
1:01:44
That's you good, No, let me
1:01:46
just take.
1:01:47
There's people that's good. They don't have a cult
1:01:49
fan base that'll be honest with you.
1:01:51
Yeah, if you don't have that, yeah, you can't do you motherfuckers
1:01:54
got cult fan base? I enjoy
1:01:56
so much.
1:01:57
Yeah, this morning waking up and saying, look,
1:01:59
this is how I'm training.
1:02:01
For school Boy Q, and all your fans was in
1:02:03
my DM tell them this. I
1:02:08
was like, oh, ship, I'm like, and.
1:02:11
You have like an alternative fan base
1:02:14
a lot of white people. I'm not for sure for white
1:02:16
people hit me up. Yeah okay,
1:02:19
And then a lot of gang
1:02:21
members as well. I
1:02:23
respected him too, you know.
1:02:25
What I mean. But I've
1:02:28
definitely got a lot of white fans.
1:02:30
I mean I came out like.
1:02:34
It really is, like I really, I really, I really saw
1:02:36
it for myself, like man, white people,
1:02:38
well up, hold up my axe
1:02:40
or Jim Duggan, you know what I mean.
1:02:42
And then then a lot of yeah,
1:02:47
yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I got a lot of white
1:02:50
fans because I came out.
1:02:51
I came shows his white people.
1:02:53
I mean, that's how most most people
1:02:56
can't afford.
1:02:56
No take it with Bandanna's
1:02:58
cover relation. Nah no, my
1:03:02
you know, I got the nice white folks and ship you
1:03:04
know, like I'm talking about them talking about the gang
1:03:06
members. Nah.
1:03:07
Non game bankers don't they go to the club.
1:03:10
They ain't coming to no damn school boy Q show.
1:03:13
You know what I mean. The game bankers don't really come
1:03:15
to my show.
1:03:16
Really No, I don't really make game
1:03:18
bank music to be real, like like
1:03:22
you got to be like in the artsy side of it, like like
1:03:24
an artist. You can respect them, you can
1:03:26
hear it. But the average H
1:03:30
street dude, I'm more so on the weirdo side
1:03:32
of like the game banging.
1:03:36
I mean, yeah, you're a.
1:03:36
Artist, but I'm just being realistic because
1:03:39
just what it is like, you know, you think of Nipsey,
1:03:41
you think of yg you think of you
1:03:43
know what I'm saying, like those people, and like I
1:03:46
always say Vince because I always get got to
1:03:48
give Vince states its flowers to
1:03:50
every time because if we're like the only two
1:03:52
where like the outsiders
1:03:54
of like that.
1:03:55
You know, that was the first time coming to
1:03:57
LA many years I go to l
1:03:59
A. I went to a Nipsey Hustle show one
1:04:01
time. That's the first time I seen Mexicans,
1:04:03
like you said, like the Mexicans and blacks been
1:04:05
together like.
1:04:06
That for a wow.
1:04:07
But I had a long time because it happened before. I
1:04:09
had never seen it. I'm not saying it didn't exist. I
1:04:11
had never seen it when I went to a Nipsey
1:04:14
show. I've seen bloods, crips, yea, all
1:04:17
different types of people, everybody, and it was
1:04:20
together any reason why you
1:04:22
were and nip never really like.
1:04:24
Oh man, that's
1:04:30
one of my biggest regrets, not doing the song, not
1:04:35
doing the get along.
1:04:36
I mean, I
1:04:39
mean to sit there and say that it is kind of like yeah,
1:04:41
you know, like.
1:04:44
Irrelevant because nobody's
1:04:46
gonna say nothing. If if it happened.
1:04:48
Yeah, yeah, but I mean it
1:04:51
was.
1:04:51
It was presented before and I
1:04:55
think my time in was a little off and
1:04:58
we didn't do the record. And
1:05:00
that's one of my biggest one of my that is
1:05:03
my biggest regret on my rap career,
1:05:05
is that not having a song with Nipsey and
1:05:09
he reached out to through Karen
1:05:11
Sibyl. Yeah
1:05:13
yeah, yeah, I mean but me and him
1:05:15
would be always cool and like always
1:05:17
we talked, but we just never putting none
1:05:20
on wax.
1:05:23
What I say, politics maybe but
1:05:26
not really. No, it hadn't
1:05:28
happened.
1:05:28
It just didn't happen. Yeah, And
1:05:30
like I said, I'm like, I'm
1:05:33
I'm I'm like an
1:05:35
arts motherfucker. So I'll be like like
1:05:39
I literally just I keep saying,
1:05:41
is like I literally ghost everybody
1:05:43
and like just like put my phone.
1:05:45
Away, like literally get rid
1:05:47
of it and like just yeah
1:05:51
yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:05:52
So I think that was around
1:05:54
the time where I was on that and that was just
1:05:56
you know, because I give so much and I tore a lot
1:05:58
at the time.
1:05:59
I was touring and I was doing a lot of ship and
1:06:04
yeah, I had to.
1:06:05
Get back right yeah yeah,
1:06:07
yeah, Like and I got kids, he got
1:06:10
kids in our time and just didn't
1:06:14
match up. But yeah, he had sent me
1:06:16
he got a song with Mazi's car ain't hard
1:06:18
enough he sent it to me. You know, yeah,
1:06:21
Bro, I wish I was on that joint because
1:06:23
I love that song too. It ain't
1:06:25
hard enough, you knowcuse ain't scard enough.
1:06:28
You ain't in foreign cards.
1:06:29
And he was hard on there. I'm
1:06:32
hot.
1:06:32
I ain't on that record. I'm hot on
1:06:34
that record hard? Did you nip
1:06:36
hard?
1:06:37
He's hard? He's hard? Did
1:06:40
you expect that?
1:06:40
Like what I'm like, you know when you
1:06:43
heard that, anybody expected
1:06:45
it? No, that he that he passed, nobody
1:06:47
expected that. No, that
1:06:49
wasn't Uh, that's
1:06:54
out of pocket, man. He
1:06:56
ain't deserve that.
1:06:58
At all in the neighborhood.
1:07:00
Like how you said you went like.
1:07:03
That ship and that ship and that type of shit be having
1:07:06
me scared to even do ship.
1:07:09
You know what I'm saying.
1:07:10
A dude that like a dude like that, Like,
1:07:13
Bro, everybody loved him, and it's this
1:07:15
one fucking idiot, Like
1:07:18
you know what I'm saying, Like usually how it
1:07:21
is this one fucking idiot dude,
1:07:24
Like it's not fair,
1:07:26
Bro, It's not fair for his kids as homies.
1:07:28
It's not the community that
1:07:30
shit not cool for no, no,
1:07:33
no, no part.
1:07:34
Of it is cool, like black black folks,
1:07:37
Like you know what I'm saying. Like I said, it got me scared
1:07:39
to do something. And not
1:07:42
only gonna say scared. That's that's a that's a
1:07:45
strong word. I ain't scared of ship, but it
1:07:47
got me, like dude, think
1:07:50
yeah, like is it worth it? You
1:07:53
know what I'm saying, Is it worth putting the fucking
1:07:55
gym over there?
1:07:56
Right? Like, you know what I'm saying.
1:07:58
Other than TD right, It's
1:08:01
been rumors that LA is probably one of the most dangerous
1:08:04
places for rappers.
1:08:05
Do you believe that's true? Yeah?
1:08:08
Because I mean everybody be checking in.
1:08:10
That's your favorite thing to do. Check in with
1:08:12
somebody that's gonna rob yo, stupid ass.
1:08:16
Wow you think that guy
1:08:18
here, Yo, the guy that you don't know, motherfucker
1:08:21
in California got your back,
1:08:24
the guy that got beef with other hoods
1:08:26
and all this.
1:08:27
You checking into that dude?
1:08:29
Bro, Just go to the hotel, get
1:08:31
you something to eat, go back
1:08:33
to the hotel, your business, go
1:08:36
have some fun where it shit is
1:08:38
fun.
1:08:38
Where are you?
1:08:39
Why do you want to go over there for
1:08:42
what. Don't call me, Oh,
1:08:45
motherfucker's been having a nerd or called me sometime.
1:08:49
What are you talking about, Bro?
1:08:51
I'm playing video games.
1:08:52
My daughter got a soccer.
1:08:53
Game tomorro Bro, Bro the fuck up?
1:08:55
Like, I'm not meeting you at I'm not about
1:08:57
to.
1:08:57
Drive over here to Beverly Hill
1:09:00
and drop you off an ounce a week.
1:09:03
If someone calls him.
1:09:06
Motherfucker telling me, yeah, bring some of your homies
1:09:09
with you, I'm like, Bro, look, I'm coming up by myself.
1:09:11
I'm not even bringing Mingo with me, Like,
1:09:14
like you know what I'm saying, Like I'm
1:09:16
trying to be low key? Why are you trying to like you
1:09:19
know what I mean, let's just go to this spot. Why you wantn't
1:09:21
go to that spot? Like you better living?
1:09:24
Like what are we doing?
1:09:25
I get it, I get it, stay connected
1:09:27
and all this ship, but sometimes you don't need to be
1:09:29
connected, Like you're not from over here, bro,
1:09:32
Like I'm not going to Brooklyn
1:09:35
to.
1:09:35
See what's going on in the dangerous parts
1:09:37
of Brooklyn?
1:09:38
Like what the fuck? Like why am I over there
1:09:40
in the dangerous parts of Brooklyn? Like shout
1:09:43
out to y'all. I want the dangerous parts of Brooklyn
1:09:45
come to the show or something. We beat up over
1:09:48
here where neutral? We cool, We're
1:09:50
all straight. I'm
1:09:52
here for peace. I don't know why everybody trying to
1:09:54
prove something. I just want like people just trying
1:09:56
to prove stuff and then they put
1:09:58
theirself in these silly that situations
1:10:01
and it's just like I don't get it, Like just why
1:10:04
don't you just go home, like go to the back
1:10:06
to the room like you got your food, Like
1:10:09
all right, Like you
1:10:11
know, we can like smoke weed in the fucking room
1:10:14
and ship, or we can go, you
1:10:16
know, come to my house. Like let's
1:10:18
go to the studio, like, let's do some productive
1:10:21
ship the Alchemist. Yeah, let's
1:10:23
do some cool ship like shout out
1:10:25
to alchemists, man, Yeah, Alchemists always got the spot
1:10:27
jerking with you know what I'm saying with artists
1:10:30
and music going. You want to go do something,
1:10:32
go to out spot the first time I heard
1:10:34
of TV. Yeah, I'm
1:10:36
not for sure. House
1:10:38
Spotted is jerking all the time. Everybody.
1:10:41
You gotta you come to l A. That that's that's
1:10:44
what we that's what we are. You come to l A. See
1:10:46
Alchemists motherfucker, Like you know what
1:10:48
I'm saying. And that's another thing. Motherfuckers
1:10:50
thinking from New York, y'all damn near and took you.
1:10:52
From take
1:10:58
it out from listen out.
1:11:02
He gave us, he gave it up. He
1:11:09
was damn there for Queen's brage. Yeah,
1:11:13
no, no, no, definitely. But let me just tell
1:11:15
you something. I hung out with Alchemists.
1:11:19
For two days. One time almost died.
1:11:22
The motherfucker don't eat coffee
1:11:26
and smoke fucking tobacco
1:11:28
joints, and I'm just looking around. I
1:11:30
ain't want to be the I ain't want to be the fact guy
1:11:32
to be like we ain't gonna eat.
1:11:35
We just kept working. I was just like, I'm
1:11:37
looking like there's no break, there's no.
1:11:39
Like dunkin Donuts
1:11:42
or something, and he'll just order coffee
1:11:44
and just keep going.
1:11:45
I'm like, this motherfucker's crazy. He's such a legend.
1:11:49
Everybody always asking us why we don't have him on like
1:11:51
it's for I'd be like, yo, alchemists don't
1:11:53
want to be on drinks.
1:11:53
He was here in the studio, he
1:11:56
was ready, he was ready. Yeah, yeah, Alchemists,
1:11:58
come on. I we love Alchemist double.
1:12:01
He is from the West
1:12:03
Coast. Absolutely, he schoop
1:12:07
boy right now. We've been trying to scoop before a long time,
1:12:10
trying to school. I didn't know I was.
1:12:12
Y'all got to put respect though the hours from
1:12:14
l a unk that. That's
1:12:17
my big homie, that's my favorite producer.
1:12:19
Yeah, that's that's crazy.
1:12:20
So I know y'all always sick of talking
1:12:23
about this with Black Hibbie. Yeah, never
1:12:26
named that.
1:12:27
Yeah, Black Hippy is the greatest
1:12:29
group that never happened, except
1:12:31
the greatest fucking group is
1:12:34
going to create an album the
1:12:36
greatest.
1:12:39
It might be hard.
1:12:41
I mean, industreet firing every body
1:12:45
today, they fired everybody ship,
1:12:47
so.
1:12:47
It might be hard. They might put that motherfucker out.
1:12:52
Around.
1:12:53
I spot
1:13:00
got chip clipped in the universe and everything.
1:13:02
They clipping everything
1:13:04
but artists, right, na
1:13:07
sign new artists about that?
1:13:09
You think artists complained about getting clipped.
1:13:12
A Black Hippie. Y'all
1:13:15
could go to Akron mm
1:13:17
hmm. Ohio, We'll
1:13:19
go anywhere for two
1:13:22
days and this album will be done.
1:13:24
Yeah for sure.
1:13:25
I don't know why I say Akron high for like, we
1:13:27
can go anywhere, Lamar
1:13:31
James. But you
1:13:33
know that ship sail, it
1:13:35
was never gonna happen anyway. But and
1:13:39
then you know, Doc got his own he got it.
1:13:41
He's doing his own thing, man, like you got it. PG
1:13:44
Lane going up. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
1:13:46
He got t D in a good way.
1:13:48
Yeah, Like you know, it's
1:13:51
paperwork. I got ship to do it.
1:13:52
Like that's blood right there,
1:13:54
you know what I mean, Like that's it's
1:13:57
not even like a rapper homie or like no,
1:13:59
that's like really my brother, Like that's
1:14:01
blood. So paperwork, don't
1:14:04
got ship. That's just paperwork, you know
1:14:06
what I mean. But if you I'm just whatever
1:14:08
he is, I am too lank
1:14:10
too, if you know what I'm saying. If right
1:14:12
now, like you said, who would be the one to
1:14:14
call it together?
1:14:15
Yeah, let's just say. It's just saying you
1:14:20
said you're weak.
1:14:23
But he don't have the power to get me to do a black
1:14:26
hippy album, Kendrick,
1:14:28
don't have the power.
1:14:29
If do call you to say, listen, listen
1:14:32
me me and Aspen, Colorado,
1:14:35
you're pulling up.
1:14:35
You got Skis boots on Mountains
1:14:40
the album to be made there for that. Yeah,
1:14:43
yeah, the firm album was made
1:14:46
in Bizville.
1:14:47
That shit was hard to the firm album and
1:14:50
two days, didn't you say, went to Cali for your verse?
1:14:53
Yes? So what you talking about? The
1:14:55
firm albums already done? I
1:14:57
was an extra on the front. You broke
1:14:59
me up like that. I
1:15:02
was an extra, sir, But
1:15:06
asking four days you die?
1:15:10
Hey, you
1:15:12
don't think you can make it happen. You wouldn't you. I
1:15:14
wouldn't do it. You wouldn't. You wouldn't do it.
1:15:16
No, because you so, You're
1:15:18
just that's that's the artist in you that created
1:15:21
like it's gone, it's going, not even
1:15:23
as a tour.
1:15:24
No, it's gone gone. It's
1:15:27
all good, Like what the fuck?
1:15:30
You know what I mean?
1:15:31
Like it's all good. It's going though, But but
1:15:33
you understand why everybody wishes that. No,
1:15:36
yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm talking to the physical
1:15:38
fan and me. No, it's not all good. Let's make
1:15:40
this.
1:15:41
No, it's over.
1:15:42
It's right, no Black Ivy album. Let's
1:15:44
do a Tuggle walk. But we
1:15:47
will.
1:15:48
I'm me and Dot are
1:15:50
gonna do something in the future. I'm almost one hundred
1:15:52
percent sure we're still going to work together,
1:15:54
right, we never But that's
1:15:56
the thing though, Like I never done
1:15:59
record really done records with that.
1:16:01
I always wanted to stand alone. He
1:16:04
would always put my albums.
1:16:06
Together and like have mad
1:16:08
ad libs do it and like he
1:16:10
ha was this whole thing secretcing and like composing
1:16:13
and ship like that. So
1:16:15
the only only thing we really did was uh
1:16:19
bless and collar greens. You
1:16:21
know, I didn't want to use the cheat code like put
1:16:24
on if you said that, It's
1:16:27
like, I want to let me see if I can do it, Like
1:16:29
I already got died on something like you
1:16:32
know what I mean, that's my brother, like and he going
1:16:34
up, like like he going up, Like I
1:16:36
don't even like when I see somebody going
1:16:38
up and they're like going in a certain direction artistically,
1:16:42
like I don't want to step into that and
1:16:44
mess that up either too. I
1:16:46
saw where he was going. I told him too. If
1:16:49
you ever get him on here, he'd tell you. I
1:16:51
told him exactly when we were
1:16:54
like on the couch, I told him exactly how his career
1:16:56
was gonna pan out like step
1:16:58
by step that like
1:17:01
when we were like no fans
1:17:03
know nothing, like I work ethic
1:17:05
and the way he was right, I'm like, watch, you're gonna drop
1:17:07
your first album.
1:17:08
That's the biggest Uh.
1:17:10
I don't even I ain't smoked a blunt
1:17:13
from somebody and like what your
1:17:15
own your own?
1:17:16
No, it's all good. That's that blunt
1:17:18
with that live resident you
1:17:25
come on. But uh, what I was saying
1:17:28
when you told him, when you told him how his career was gonna
1:17:30
go, Yeah, I told him so.
1:17:31
I said, your first album, you're gonna be this megastar.
1:17:34
Watch, you're gonna blow up beat this megastar.
1:17:37
Your second album, you're gonna make the greatest album
1:17:39
ever. I told your third album,
1:17:42
you're gonna be like this big ass at
1:17:44
this point, you're gonna be the biggest you
1:17:46
could. You know what I'm saying, the biggest artists
1:17:48
in the world.
1:17:49
And I realdn't.
1:17:50
I didn't really talk about before it, but I just gave
1:17:52
him like a one, two three and it
1:17:55
literally was that, and
1:17:57
it's it's hilarious.
1:17:58
Like the way it panned out. I just saw
1:18:00
it. Though.
1:18:01
He was like always we used to always
1:18:03
call him the uh what
1:18:05
we used to call him, the Golden the Golden Boy or
1:18:07
the Chosen Yeah,
1:18:10
some ship.
1:18:10
We used to call him something.
1:18:11
I forgot what we used to call him, But he was always
1:18:14
like, oh yeah, he don't want like
1:18:17
you know his work, ethic, everything he taught me
1:18:19
worth that thic. He taught me all that ship, Like like
1:18:22
that's why nobody, like to
1:18:25
this day, nobody outworks me, and nobody
1:18:27
I don't know nobody that can outwork
1:18:30
me. Like I'm always creating
1:18:32
something, always always
1:18:35
t.
1:18:35
Wanted to drop you. Yeah, yeah, stepped
1:18:38
up.
1:18:38
No, they just put me to the side,
1:18:41
and just like yeah, just
1:18:43
like I wouldn't say he even dropped me. It was just like we
1:18:45
ain't fucking with him no more. We weren't really popping
1:18:47
like that. So like dropping me off,
1:18:50
it was like early again. It was just like like
1:18:53
we're not gonna have he lazy.
1:18:56
He ain't with this share
1:18:59
Oh yeah, I mean I was hustling and ship.
1:19:01
I was hustling too, So I was back yeah
1:19:05
yeah, I was back and forth out of town and hustling,
1:19:07
and I was trying to get to the chili. I was like this
1:19:09
rap ship, man, you know what I mean, I can
1:19:11
get some chili right quick with
1:19:14
that ship. He was like, man, nobody
1:19:17
got time for that lazy ship, you
1:19:19
know what I mean? So I guess he like said
1:19:21
it and like you know, just like spoke
1:19:23
it and a le and them
1:19:25
heard and was like, you know, just
1:19:28
put me to the sidide. Hey bro, they talking about blah
1:19:30
blah blah blah blah.
1:19:31
You know what I mean.
1:19:32
That's when I came up with the black Hippie ship, Like
1:19:34
all right, I'm gonna make a group. I
1:19:42
can go bust some move and I could just do a verse
1:19:45
and then uh yeah bilom
1:19:47
black Hippie the name, and then uh you
1:19:50
know that verse me happened to do the verse
1:19:53
just you know, I just you know once
1:19:56
again that that sports side
1:19:58
of me kicked in that this playing and
1:20:00
you know, once that other shit dried up, I wouldn't
1:20:03
making no more money on that ship.
1:20:04
That shit was ain't know.
1:20:05
I wasn't no real drummer, the most cap drug
1:20:07
dealer ever. You know what I'm saying. That shit dried
1:20:09
up. And it's like, you
1:20:12
know, now I gotta compete. And they in there
1:20:14
cracking every day, cracking every day. I
1:20:17
was cracking, Jay Rock cracking so cracking.
1:20:20
They cracking every day. We was on one
1:20:22
mic. We was just waiting in line every day.
1:20:24
Just you know, as soon as it's free up, all right,
1:20:26
my turn, I'm you know, you just got to
1:20:28
get your ship off, and then I just started cracking cracking.
1:20:31
Next thing you know, I'm on drink
1:20:33
Champs. I just never stopped cracking, never
1:20:37
stopped crashing.
1:20:39
Never.
1:20:41
Like I said, I gotta drop blue Lips,
1:20:43
and I got eighteen more to go, so
1:20:46
I'm gonna keep cracking.
1:20:47
I'm not gonna lie to you again.
1:20:51
Loose Slides my favorite because
1:20:53
it remind me of who's
1:20:57
world is this without remind me of
1:20:59
who's work world is this? Like I'm
1:21:02
jogging to it this morning and I'm like, it's
1:21:05
motherfucker too young to know the
1:21:08
feeling. Like I said in the intro
1:21:10
of it, I listen
1:21:12
to your music, it almost feels like you belong
1:21:15
in the nineties. It almost
1:21:17
feels like you did time travel
1:21:19
and you you, you came
1:21:21
out. I don't want to say the wrong error, like
1:21:24
a different era, like damn,
1:21:26
just tell me about dated.
1:21:28
No no, no, no, no no no, that's
1:21:30
not what I mean.
1:21:31
I mean.
1:21:31
I mean it in the most repub.
1:21:34
Because so
1:21:36
many people of this generation are not Liverpool
1:21:38
based and not like like you made an album,
1:21:40
and you made album.
1:21:43
People make singles for sure, they
1:21:45
make a single, B
1:21:47
side side,
1:21:49
excuse me, they
1:21:55
make they make a single into the next
1:21:57
single. Make
1:22:00
it. You made a whole album,
1:22:02
like we jogged your whole ship.
1:22:05
Thank you, like you, it's a body
1:22:07
of work, Like what why
1:22:09
why would.
1:22:10
You do that when you can just make two fucking
1:22:12
dope singles like everyone else.
1:22:17
I did it like so many times, and nobody
1:22:19
ever told me fucking congratulations.
1:22:21
I'm like, god, damn the album.
1:22:24
Bro, Nobody never fucking told me,
1:22:33
oh yeah.
1:22:36
You know.
1:22:37
So, I'm always chasing these hits,
1:22:39
right and doing hits and ship.
1:22:42
It was always dope, right, but
1:22:44
like every.
1:22:46
Time something gonna plat them, they never be like,
1:22:48
congrats, this.
1:22:49
Ship gonna club. I'll be having to ask for my plaques
1:22:51
and ship.
1:22:54
I'm making this ship right now. I want to
1:22:56
make I'm gonna make this. I told everybody
1:22:58
to like, bro, I'm making a art project
1:23:01
and step
1:23:03
back, please. I told everybody
1:23:05
just step back and let me cook for
1:23:08
this project. And they let
1:23:10
me cook, and I bade my best work
1:23:12
like it's
1:23:15
gonna lift forever, like it's gonna live forever, like
1:23:17
and it's gonna inspire people to to
1:23:22
to actually make our project, you
1:23:24
know, because people are now you know. It's the streaming
1:23:26
and fuck it up. It's like eight versions and
1:23:29
ship you got to sped up the acapella
1:23:31
you got.
1:23:32
All this ship. It's like godly, like
1:23:35
what the fuck you get here? You know what I mean? Like where
1:23:38
where do I start the album at?
1:23:40
Like I don't even get it, Like, you
1:23:42
know, they're just trying to run up to it because the streaming
1:23:44
shit is so fucked up.
1:23:45
It's just you know, they's just running
1:23:48
up the streams.
1:23:48
So people aren't fually
1:23:51
focused on making albums, and
1:23:54
like, you know, this thing with James Blake
1:23:56
was saying, people don't buy albums
1:23:58
either, know what I'm saying. So
1:24:01
when you don't buy albums, people are just going to
1:24:03
play the game because artists are like, well,
1:24:05
yah, I ain't buying it. I'm just gonna play
1:24:07
the game then, you know, and
1:24:10
rightfully, so I ain't mad at them, you know what
1:24:12
I mean. But me personally, I came in a different
1:24:15
time and I'm blessed
1:24:17
to be schoolboy Q, so I'll
1:24:19
always be able to generate some
1:24:21
chili, like you know, I put myself
1:24:24
in that position.
1:24:24
But I don't see the younger artists being.
1:24:26
Able to do that with the way
1:24:29
they do things, because they're not like really
1:24:32
making a body of work.
1:24:33
It's more so you know, streaming.
1:24:36
They're making some chili though, but I
1:24:38
mean that's exactly
1:24:40
it's like, is that chili gonna.
1:24:42
Because you're feeding your true fan base
1:24:45
growing them at the same time.
1:24:47
Yeah, but when you just recycling, you
1:24:49
know, people for like a couple
1:24:51
of songs, they don't you see it all
1:24:53
the time. They don't really transfer to the shows.
1:24:55
Like people can't even tour. It's like how
1:24:57
these dudes like sell so many records and
1:25:00
you can't even like fucking du.
1:25:02
I'll be in like Germany and ship and I'll
1:25:04
be y'all in New York.
1:25:07
Yeah, I'll be I'll be everywhere, like you know what I'm
1:25:09
saying, Australia or wherever, and it's
1:25:11
like I don't be seeing un of these casts and I'll
1:25:13
be like, I don't get it,
1:25:16
Like it's not.
1:25:16
Making sense they can't go out there. Yeah.
1:25:19
But also, like I said, if something don't
1:25:21
change, like I
1:25:24
think James Blake is right, we gotta figure something
1:25:26
out, like uh.
1:25:29
To get because we need the younger.
1:25:31
Generation to start
1:25:33
making albums again and caring about
1:25:35
the artwork, not saying not to make
1:25:37
a hit I'm not sitting here saying.
1:25:39
That, like you definitely you're a young artist,
1:25:41
you definitely need to make a hit. I don't try to
1:25:43
come in on some blue lipship
1:25:46
like you
1:25:50
know what I'm saying.
1:25:50
But at the same time, like you can still
1:25:53
make an album with a hit, like you know what I mean,
1:25:55
It's been done since the
1:25:57
beginning of time, like you
1:25:59
know, but you know, people just focus on
1:26:02
those records, and so they'll put ten of those same
1:26:04
kind of records on there because one
1:26:06
of them all you need is to of them to catch and those two
1:26:08
songs that carry the album to the
1:26:11
older platinum and it's like, you know, it's
1:26:13
so it killed the album kind of. But
1:26:16
you know, if we don't,
1:26:20
you know, start purchasing albums, unfortunately,
1:26:23
that's gonna be the continued result.
1:26:26
And me, it doesn't affect me
1:26:29
because I can give Mama Chiley. I'm talking about
1:26:31
for the young generation. It ain't about me, like,
1:26:33
oh, buy my album, Hey you don't
1:26:36
buy it or don't.
1:26:37
But I'm just saying the.
1:26:38
Younger generation is gonna suffer
1:26:41
because it's just gonna keep recycling
1:26:44
new artists because somebody
1:26:46
else gonna come with another joint too, and
1:26:48
another joint, another joint is gonna catch on TikTok,
1:26:51
and then.
1:26:52
You know it is what it is.
1:26:54
But they become their disposable at that point, Yeah,
1:26:57
exactly. And one thing I wanted to bring up going back
1:26:59
to Alchemist is that his model
1:27:01
of making music and then making the merch
1:27:04
and then he'll sell it at a high
1:27:07
rate so that he could make the music he
1:27:09
wants to make. And that's what happens when you have a real
1:27:11
fan base versus a streaming
1:27:13
fan base. It's
1:27:16
a different fan base, That's what I'm saying.
1:27:17
And it's not it's I think it's a disservice
1:27:21
that we're doing the
1:27:23
older generation, like
1:27:27
my generation, we can do something
1:27:30
our generation up first. Yeah,
1:27:33
yeah, and we're just constantly keep sucking it up,
1:27:35
you know what I'm saying.
1:27:36
But at some point we got to learn.
1:27:38
You know what I'm saying. We got to learn they
1:27:40
kept sucking up, and yeah, we
1:27:42
got to help these younger cats a little bit,
1:27:44
and we got to fix it a little bit. Because the
1:27:46
biggest artists in the world are still in their thirties,
1:27:49
you know what I'm saying, are the older cats. They're
1:27:52
the biggest artists you can name them. They're all in their thirties.
1:27:55
So I think, yeah, like
1:27:58
everybody needs to figure something out. For
1:28:00
the younger artists, Like I said,
1:28:02
we're fine, we can always get
1:28:04
some chili. These other dudes.
1:28:07
Are not going to have what we have, and
1:28:10
so we gotta like figure something
1:28:12
out.
1:28:13
I think that I don't know what it is, but
1:28:16
making a younger generation of
1:28:19
musicians and creatives understand that making
1:28:21
something dope is more important
1:28:23
than just flossing that you're doing well.
1:28:26
But they yeah, but that, but
1:28:29
they they need
1:28:31
some guidance and they just need a little bit of
1:28:34
They need to know that it works too though,
1:28:37
But.
1:28:37
You know, or the carrod in front
1:28:39
of the person, that's what's every time has
1:28:41
fun.
1:28:42
These dudes are still good writers though they're
1:28:45
dope. They don't want
1:28:47
to be like they do it on purpose. Sometimes you can
1:28:49
see it playing the game.
1:28:50
They playing the game rightfully, so because
1:28:53
like they they coming from no chili,
1:28:56
you know what I'm saying. It's easy for me to say like, oh,
1:28:58
dude, you know the art now am shit, But that's
1:29:01
just how they have to get on right,
1:29:03
you know what I'm saying, Like we didn't have to get on like
1:29:05
that, so they have to get on playing
1:29:07
the game. So they come in a
1:29:10
certain way. It's like you know what I mean, and it's
1:29:13
and it's a little disservice. We're
1:29:15
doing a disservice in that.
1:29:16
Would you say, like a team like TDE
1:29:19
makes a big difference and where a lot of these artists
1:29:21
don't have teams like that?
1:29:23
Uh yeah, and
1:29:25
no, but I think the team thing is kind
1:29:28
of dead too.
1:29:29
You have to like stand as an individual,
1:29:32
right, more so than anything, because like people
1:29:34
are just scrolling. I mean you we
1:29:36
all scrolled one hundred times million times
1:29:39
before we even got here, right, Like,
1:29:41
so you have to be able to stand in it as an individual.
1:29:44
The team thing is dope, but that's
1:29:46
kind of selling too. You
1:29:49
have to be an individual.
1:29:51
So saying that you got all these projects ahead of you,
1:29:54
what's your I mean, obviously you might not
1:29:56
want to give it all up, but like, how what is your like
1:29:58
if you're giving up to the younger gener ration some
1:30:01
game, what's your plan? Because you said
1:30:03
this is your only thing, Yeah this is it?
1:30:05
What is that plan look like? In
1:30:07
these next four or five albums,
1:30:10
moving forward, just
1:30:13
pushing myself. Still, how
1:30:16
often do you drop these albums? What's a
1:30:19
project thing? I hope I don't take
1:30:21
another five years, you know what
1:30:23
I'm saying. Fuck, I do not want to
1:30:25
take another five years. But be
1:30:30
honest, I can't afford another fucking five years.
1:30:34
I can't afford another five years. I
1:30:36
can do like I said, I can always make some chili, but mentally
1:30:40
I can. Mentally, no, I can't afford
1:30:42
another five So that was the last time of your five
1:30:45
year hiatus. Yeah, I don't think I can ever do that
1:30:47
again. The
1:30:49
last album to this album?
1:30:50
Yeah? Yeah, but what is
1:30:52
the next four? Yeah? It would be five
1:30:54
years in one month type
1:30:56
ship.
1:30:57
So I just called it five rounded all five. Talking
1:31:00
about some money out around it? Who
1:31:03
point Sam got five million out there?
1:31:06
You know what I mean? But
1:31:10
yeah, hopefully hopefully you
1:31:12
know, I'm still working right now, so
1:31:15
hopefully, uh, I find a pocket
1:31:17
and I get it, I'll get it going.
1:31:19
But yeah, other
1:31:22
than that, I just hope the younger
1:31:25
generations just get some help and
1:31:28
ship.
1:31:29
We got to help them somehow, some way. I
1:31:32
don't know. I don't know who's
1:31:34
the best wrapp of golfer Me take
1:31:38
a shot for that.
1:31:39
I'll take a shot for yeah, yeah, but I'm definitely
1:31:43
yeah better than everybody.
1:31:45
How about DJ College way
1:31:49
better than? How about way
1:31:52
better than? Okay, here's the big one.
1:31:58
Scarfaces a good one. Scarface
1:32:00
scarfirst is the only going. I
1:32:03
haven't played with Scarface, but I've seen his swing. It's
1:32:05
pretty good, but I
1:32:07
don't know it's handicapped. But I think
1:32:09
I'm I'm better than everybody though.
1:32:11
How did you get put on to motherfucker golf?
1:32:13
My boy June, he.
1:32:20
He got me.
1:32:22
He bet me in the studio ten grand that
1:32:25
I wouldn't make a birdie in two years, and I was
1:32:27
like, I can do
1:32:29
anything.
1:32:29
What the is a birdie?
1:32:31
All right?
1:32:31
So say it's a part four. So it's
1:32:34
a part four.
1:32:35
You have four shots, because
1:32:40
they pretty much have four shots to get
1:32:42
a par it's called apart for four shots
1:32:44
to get a par. So if you make
1:32:46
it in the hole before
1:32:49
four shots on your third shot, that's
1:32:51
called a birdie, and you get a negative point, so
1:32:54
you the game.
1:32:55
Goes by the lowest amount of points.
1:32:58
You know what I'm saying. Why I ain't playing
1:33:01
golf. It's too much mathematics.
1:33:04
It's not really, it's just hit the ball, get faded
1:33:06
and go. It ain't nobody tripping on all
1:33:08
that ship, Okay, yeah, Like I mean, bro,
1:33:11
like, bro, they all trash. Have you not
1:33:13
seen these dudes play? They're all trash?
1:33:16
Like you can definitely go out there and play
1:33:19
and enjoy yourself, like do but collar
1:33:21
look good.
1:33:21
Out there, Cally shout
1:33:23
out to Caldi. Man, he got
1:33:26
better, he got better. I see he working,
1:33:29
he's working, working, working,
1:33:32
But but he's definitely trash. It's
1:33:39
definitely awful. He's awful. Whoa
1:33:42
not awful?
1:33:43
Cool?
1:33:43
No, he's awful. Like
1:33:47
he's
1:33:49
a dude.
1:33:51
Dude.
1:33:51
Man, I'm
1:33:55
proud of him because.
1:33:56
He really did it, like really playing
1:33:59
okay, like like you know what I'm saying, like a lot of people,
1:34:02
you know, so you really Hopefully
1:34:04
I hope he gets rid of the like, uh, like
1:34:07
the rich side of it, Like I
1:34:09
don't want to. I don't like that narrative that
1:34:11
we kind of push what rich,
1:34:14
Like, yeah, you have to be like rich to play golf.
1:34:16
If that's not true, that's not true.
1:34:18
No, Yeah,
1:34:21
so that's that'd be my my my roof
1:34:23
with a lot of hip hop
1:34:25
and golf right now, because now that
1:34:27
it's like coming into this world.
1:34:29
They're like making it seem like, oh yeah, I'm rich.
1:34:31
Sh Like yeah, rich people
1:34:33
play it, but it's like like,
1:34:35
you know, poor people could.
1:34:36
Should be able to play this ship too. Oh really
1:34:39
you know what.
1:34:39
I'm saying, Like, and they're like they
1:34:42
might be really really fucking good. You
1:34:44
know, Black people be pretty good at every fucking
1:34:46
sport. If we start playing
1:34:48
golf, maybe at five.
1:34:50
But it might have some you know
1:34:53
that. Yeah, yeah for sure.
1:34:56
But you know that's my whole thing, Like I
1:34:58
want more people to like, uh, push
1:35:02
it more so as like you know, like it's
1:35:04
more a mental thing.
1:35:05
It's fun.
1:35:05
It's like right now, people are pushing it a
1:35:08
golf, but they're pushing it as.
1:35:10
A rich yeah, just like in
1:35:12
a hip hop that's hip hop.
1:35:14
Well yeah yeah, but even outside of the
1:35:17
cruise yeah yeah, I mean
1:35:19
yeah, it's like.
1:35:20
Some rich ship. For sure. It's like some rich ship.
1:35:22
But what I'm saying is.
1:35:24
But what I'm saying is it's a lot of people
1:35:26
that are not rich that play golf the trick
1:35:28
beer yeah yeah, and just chill and just playing.
1:35:32
Yeah, and they like you know what I'm saying, Like
1:35:34
they're way you know what I'm saying. That's it's
1:35:37
it's more of them than it is people at the
1:35:39
country club. You know what I'm saying, poor regular
1:35:42
Yeah yeah yeah, so the narrative of it, and
1:35:44
it's like, you know, I don't like it because they
1:35:48
be putting like this retirement on it too,
1:35:50
like you going golf, you're
1:35:53
doing it's not even
1:35:55
that. It's like, bro, I'm just going for a couple
1:35:57
of hours and I'm back getting to it. Like what's
1:36:00
the difference of me going to the club. What's the difference
1:36:02
in me like playing basketball? You've been
1:36:04
playing golf six years?
1:36:06
Six years?
1:36:07
Yeah, yeah,
1:36:10
I'm and you know, I go
1:36:12
on and off, but I'm right
1:36:15
now. I'm trash right now because I've been
1:36:17
working on the music.
1:36:18
But you got to keep at it like that.
1:36:21
Not for sure, it's that's what I'm saying, Like,
1:36:23
Bro, everybody's ass like just playing
1:36:25
like you know, don't worry about yeah,
1:36:28
Like bro.
1:36:28
Like everybody's ass, Like everybody's
1:36:31
ass.
1:36:31
I'm ass and I'm really good and I'm ass,
1:36:34
so like you know what I mean, Like, don't even worry about
1:36:37
just play. Like I'm telling you that shit fun
1:36:39
and it's cool, Like you out there smoking. You're
1:36:41
doing everything here.
1:36:42
Yeah, like you you're chilling.
1:36:44
Music, you got music slapping you
1:36:47
chilling and you're just hitting the ball.
1:36:49
That's it with the shirts though, yeah, yeah,
1:36:52
you know what I mean. You get fresh.
1:36:53
Take your shirt, you know what I mean? Dapper
1:36:56
up, young man.
1:36:57
My shirt is eighteen years Yeah, yeah, I
1:37:00
don't. I don't want to do that.
1:37:02
Man, my shirt
1:37:04
every day, you mean collar
1:37:07
shirt.
1:37:08
Look at I had to change.
1:37:11
I don't know if you know I had to change.
1:37:13
Yeah, he wore the same tight ass shirt
1:37:15
sunny ad on.
1:37:18
That what happened? So
1:37:21
you you with the golf, a tire, you
1:37:23
do the shoes, the spikes. Yeah, yeah,
1:37:26
you gotta do the whole ship. You slip, you slip
1:37:28
or something. You gotta have it. You do like you like
1:37:31
you might golf. I've never
1:37:33
done it, but I'm in. I doesn't go. That's
1:37:35
mini golf. You know. You
1:37:37
know what's my hobby? Played handball?
1:37:40
Handball?
1:37:40
Got some prison ship.
1:37:41
You know you did.
1:37:45
Prison ship? I
1:37:56
love you, right
1:38:00
man, I.
1:38:02
Ain't never hit the pin. Let's
1:38:05
talk the ball. Brand new
1:38:07
guy with asap rocket. Yeah, how
1:38:10
did you link up? You went to New York?
1:38:12
Actually?
1:38:12
Yeah, so.
1:38:16
Flock was a fan. He always
1:38:18
say I'm his favorite rapper.
1:38:19
I keeping call him out every time he.
1:38:21
Got has he said, this has been young.
1:38:26
Man.
1:38:28
Yeah, you're my favorite
1:38:30
rapp b.
1:38:33
I think.
1:38:38
Brother, that's my brother described
1:38:41
he's my space Nah he oh
1:38:45
no, I mean.
1:38:48
Because people got hired. Yeah, he reached out to
1:38:50
me.
1:38:51
I forgot Kendrick Dan Top and
1:38:53
and did not know about Yeah, yeah,
1:38:55
yeah you didn't know about
1:38:57
him.
1:38:58
Know, yeah, I didn't know about him. Okay, but
1:39:00
they were saying he was bumping my ship all the time
1:39:02
and I was a new artist. He's like, brow you my
1:39:04
favorite blah blah blah, this that, and
1:39:07
I'm like, okay, blah blah. I didn't hear
1:39:09
ship. So anyway, he
1:39:11
dropped like payst Sos or so yeah,
1:39:14
and I'm like, oh, this is hard. I
1:39:16
ain't going I'm in New York. Like right
1:39:19
after pays So's pretty much drowing you yeah,
1:39:21
and he like, yeah, I'm trying to funk with you.
1:39:23
And he pulled up him
1:39:25
and Yams. Yeah, him and Yams and
1:39:30
Saul was with me. We big, we big
1:39:32
drugged out. So in the other
1:39:35
room faded which one of your homies
1:39:37
went to sleep so yeah,
1:39:39
yeah, he was in that bitch.
1:39:41
He was it.
1:39:42
I was doped up too, but you know
1:39:45
what I'm saying.
1:39:46
They come in, he played the beat, I
1:39:48
got a night the brand new with brand
1:39:51
new around and he's just like he's like mumbling
1:39:53
in my ear or whatever, and I was like, oh yeah, and I
1:39:56
just cracked like I said, crack
1:39:58
thing when she's stupid.
1:40:00
He let's go back and forth. Crack
1:40:03
thing went stupid.
1:40:05
And then yeah, I went to go to the bathroom
1:40:07
and so was on the couch sleep
1:40:10
and he he just like he just stick
1:40:12
his hand out crazy.
1:40:14
He's like, oh my god, you're so sto, like
1:40:17
you are ridiculous something.
1:40:19
And then yeah, that was. That was that and me
1:40:21
been like brothers every since. It's like a shot for
1:40:23
the brotherhood. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:40:26
I look that's
1:40:29
my brother cheers.
1:40:32
I'm gonna tell you something.
1:40:34
As an old Elder Statesman, I don't want to call myself
1:40:36
an old Jesus I'm not, But
1:40:39
that's the Elder Statesman, the
1:40:42
TD.
1:40:44
He SAP crew.
1:40:45
Maybe us proud because y'all
1:40:48
kind of started together.
1:40:49
We're kind of like still like together, like yeah,
1:40:52
we all cool. Yeah, that's it. Is dope,
1:40:55
Like you know what I mean, because.
1:40:57
In my time, our time, like
1:41:00
it was like enemies,
1:41:03
like yeah, and it was it was stupid
1:41:05
because when you go to a La
1:41:08
hood, it's the same fucking hood.
1:41:10
As New York.
1:41:11
Just people got different type of you
1:41:13
know, gestures and coaches and accents.
1:41:15
But it's the same fucking people, the
1:41:17
same fucking thing. But y'all showed
1:41:20
us the difference. And y'all
1:41:22
younger than us, but y'all
1:41:24
showing that camra how they say it, camaraderie.
1:41:27
There you go, y'all
1:41:30
showing us that. I had to look back
1:41:32
and say, damn, I wish, I wish we would
1:41:34
have participated in that, you know what I mean?
1:41:36
We know our whole generation
1:41:38
though it was really no real beefs and our from
1:41:41
our generation. If you noticed,
1:41:43
like we all got along, like all
1:41:45
of us, from y G Nipsey to a
1:41:47
Sap to everybody
1:41:50
that came out Joey Badass, everybody that
1:41:52
was like coming out like y'all
1:41:54
were unified, like we all of us
1:41:57
were like super cool and all supported
1:41:59
each other. Like I said, is if you let
1:42:01
somebody take your spiders, never yours in the first
1:42:03
place. So I feel like all of us was like secure,
1:42:07
y'all. Yeah,
1:42:09
we all had our own bands, like we weren't even
1:42:11
tripping, like you know what I'm saying, So
1:42:14
we always supported each other, all of us, Like
1:42:17
I.
1:42:17
Mean, that's why I said earlier, like y'all
1:42:19
like the only crews like that didn't sound like
1:42:22
each other, Like.
1:42:23
Give me TD as a crew TD, you
1:42:25
know as well, like.
1:42:30
In our generation it was dope like my favorite
1:42:32
rappers granddadd at you listen to my my
1:42:35
ship.
1:42:36
You can't hit granddad at you and at all.
1:42:38
It's like I want to be.
1:42:39
Exact opposite of what I and I felt like that's
1:42:41
what you guys were doing. Like you guys were like being
1:42:44
so unique. That's why I said, like Andre
1:42:46
three thousands and you and your intro
1:42:49
is because it's so different
1:42:52
for what you guys.
1:42:53
It's like I'm so influenced. I want to show you something different.
1:42:56
Yeah.
1:42:56
Yeah, I've definitely influenced by podcast
1:42:59
like Mob oh man,
1:43:02
you.
1:43:02
Know, like Snoop,
1:43:05
Mob, Deep You and Compone
1:43:09
for real, We'll
1:43:12
tang Like.
1:43:13
Bro, I can name nas
1:43:15
literally my favorite rapper, Like bro, you
1:43:18
know what I'm saying, Like I can name all
1:43:20
day corrupt.
1:43:22
You know what I'm saying, Like corrupt was so hard,
1:43:28
but.
1:43:28
You can sit a handle on your on
1:43:30
the wheel on one of your first hits. Yeah it
1:43:32
was, it was, And that was the first
1:43:35
record y'all did together.
1:43:36
No brand new guy and then hands on the Wheel.
1:43:39
I hate even one like I got this joint. I'm like,
1:43:41
I got the radio joint. That's when it was like
1:43:43
kind of like trying to get on the radio and ship. I
1:43:46
got a radio joint, sent it to you. But
1:43:49
then my boy he sent it back. Just
1:43:51
you know, think another one.
1:43:53
We got another one, this one.
1:43:55
I didn't make the in the studio together.
1:43:56
No, we didn't make this one in it he asked,
1:43:59
No, actually no, I sent it to
1:44:01
him in these shows. No, he came to l A and
1:44:03
put up to Hector Homie Hector
1:44:06
studio.
1:44:06
And yeah we did it. Yeah, you
1:44:10
know it's another story. I love what.
1:44:14
Because I only got invited to the Grammys once.
1:44:17
The Grammy, right, I
1:44:19
lost me too.
1:44:21
I lost. I lost a few time. You got
1:44:23
four nominations out there.
1:44:24
Five few I
1:44:27
lost count never really
1:44:31
apially, I don't know whatever. I
1:44:33
just I hate war shows. I
1:44:36
never went again. I just couldn't
1:44:38
stand it. I couldn't stand losing pun was alive
1:44:40
at this time. But you went to the Grammys
1:44:43
because your daughter actually yeah yeah
1:44:45
yeah, and then not only you went to the Grammys that time,
1:44:48
but you drink duce with jay Z.
1:44:50
No.
1:44:51
I didn't, No, I didn't drink
1:44:53
duce. He has some duce. He offered
1:44:55
you something. No, he didn't offer me. No, he
1:45:00
could say I didn't. So
1:45:04
he had two cups and
1:45:06
he had some duce.
1:45:07
And he had two cups, and I guess it was
1:45:10
like for one when it was a boy or something. And
1:45:12
he looked at me, he like, and
1:45:15
I was like like,
1:45:18
like this could have been like like I
1:45:21
only got two, like you.
1:45:22
Know what I mean. It was all good.
1:45:24
I was with my daughter and ship, you know what I mean, just
1:45:26
me and so I wasn't trip if
1:45:29
a dad was you that day.
1:45:31
My daughter was ready to dip. She was hot.
1:45:34
She was hot at Chance.
1:45:35
She was not fucking with chance. Yeah.
1:45:37
When they called his name, she.
1:45:39
Was like, why he went another award? I
1:45:42
was like, it's third one. He one. I'm like she
1:45:45
was how old was she old?
1:45:48
Was she? I don't know?
1:45:50
She was like uh.
1:45:52
Eight, Oh yeah, yeah,
1:45:55
she was over. She
1:45:57
was like, why he wants soon as they said his name after
1:46:00
uh for
1:46:03
Best Rap Album, because they brought the camera
1:46:06
because like you know, they bring the cameras for like
1:46:08
the reaction in
1:46:10
case you win, and they brought the camera in front
1:46:12
of her and she like squeezed me like like as
1:46:15
if like about to win. Yeah,
1:46:20
no, I ain't gonna you lost. Yeah.
1:46:26
Yeah, so she was mad for you.
1:46:27
Yeah.
1:46:28
Yeah.
1:46:29
As soon as they said Chance the rapper, she hot.
1:46:32
She was why they say his name?
1:46:35
Why that's the third one. I'm
1:46:37
like, good for him, man, It's all good, like you
1:46:39
know, like she
1:46:45
was not fucking with it. She was not fucking with addition,
1:46:48
She's like let's go. I'm like yeah, let's go.
1:46:50
So right after, right after Chance
1:46:52
got his award, like let's go,
1:46:55
and Jay was just like yo.
1:46:57
Keep going in and I was like, oh, thank
1:46:59
you.
1:47:00
Bro.
1:47:01
I was like, I'm out, what's up you?
1:47:04
Asap Rock is gonna do an album together?
1:47:06
Yeah, we talked about it, but I
1:47:08
mean we both like, like
1:47:11
like I said, me and him just ghost each other so
1:47:13
much, bro, like
1:47:15
wild man, Yeah yeah, like you know what I
1:47:17
mean, he'll be I'll
1:47:19
be looking for him.
1:47:20
I can't find him. He'll be looking for me and be
1:47:22
looking for me coming out. Yeah, I
1:47:25
see it.
1:47:25
I'd be like, I'll call you tomorrow and
1:47:29
then it's just changed.
1:47:32
He got.
1:47:34
Sometimes I gotta get him back. You
1:47:37
ghosted me full week. I'm gonna have to ghoti yout
1:47:39
full week. You got a wait
1:47:41
a week now? No, no, but
1:47:44
you know, now that's my boy. I was just at his house,
1:47:48
uh, looking at the new art
1:47:50
he was making and coming up with he
1:47:53
called, he called, he called
1:47:55
the art that he drawing. He do, you know, he's
1:47:58
always doing clothes videos, you
1:48:00
know, music. He was just letting
1:48:03
me see how the already was working on.
1:48:05
Pretty much. That's an ill couple creatively.
1:48:07
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's different.
1:48:11
Kanye's daughter dropping the album.
1:48:13
Yeah, elementary dropping drop.
1:48:16
That's a little crazy, but that's ill at the same time,
1:48:18
elementary drop, it's
1:48:22
crazy, dope.
1:48:23
Hold on, did she drop
1:48:25
out of the elementary though?
1:48:26
No?
1:48:27
I hope not. I mean the home schooling,
1:48:29
the home schooling. Then maybe home
1:48:33
schooling is fine too, but maybe that's that's that's
1:48:36
that's hard. Is she actually dropping out? Like right
1:48:38
now? What
1:48:45
does she need school for? Though? Like you
1:48:48
make money.
1:48:49
You gotta.
1:48:51
Looking at these teachers like you
1:48:55
should be educated that
1:48:58
what the fun does he need from school? All
1:49:02
of their kids, what are they fucking b They need
1:49:04
their own education to learn their own ship? Man,
1:49:07
what have you learned in school that you
1:49:09
applied in life? Now you need some fundamentals?
1:49:12
Show me what you have you learned one
1:49:14
plus one.
1:49:16
I learned how to read, yeah, I learned
1:49:19
how to say geographic
1:49:21
geography.
1:49:22
Yeah, I just learned
1:49:24
history. Don't want history? You know what the best
1:49:26
geography is?
1:49:28
Corey, Like
1:49:31
everybody can tour, bro learned how to do
1:49:33
something, Learn how to do something,
1:49:35
to see the fucking world, motherfucker.
1:49:37
Learn how to do something you want to learn in school so you can
1:49:39
learn and listen to tour.
1:49:41
I know motherfuckers who got forty dollars and they
1:49:43
go to Bali every two months and they
1:49:45
all out.
1:49:46
And I've
1:49:48
been looking at that motherfucker sometimes, like damn, the
1:49:50
motherfuckers be posting some ship. I'm like, ain't no
1:49:52
way you out in fucking cake niggas
1:49:55
a saving niggas just saving now.
1:49:58
It's crazy backers. You don't got to they
1:50:00
be homeless out there were
1:50:02
homeless you got the it's
1:50:05
just for real. The
1:50:08
hospitals, it's no hospital.
1:50:12
What do they call ship?
1:50:13
Listen, man, verb NBS. Now since
1:50:15
Donald Trump, they've been living. Man, I'm
1:50:19
going back to that ship. Sleepy Joe was sucking
1:50:21
Upucker's getting locked up. You're sleepy
1:50:24
Joe.
1:50:27
Sleepy Joe mane
1:50:30
goes politics.
1:50:31
We sunk up every time. You
1:50:34
ain't gonna answer this. The Democrat,
1:50:38
I'm a nobody. I'm
1:50:41
gonna nothing.
1:50:43
But I'm not a Democrat. Are Republicans?
1:50:45
So I don't know?
1:50:46
You know, I vote. I vote according
1:50:48
a vote. You know what I'm saying. On whoever it's
1:50:51
the best candidate. Yeah, I'm
1:50:53
a flip flop voter.
1:50:56
It's not a problem
1:50:58
when you're on the team.
1:50:59
That's the problem when you're a Democrat or you're Republican
1:51:02
and you on that team no matter what, that's the issue.
1:51:04
In the I followed my brother fat
1:51:06
Joe. No, you don't, man, whatever he
1:51:08
does.
1:51:08
You do.
1:51:09
Until he put up the Trump sneaker, I
1:51:13
was like, yo, hold on and
1:51:16
didn't.
1:51:18
But he didn't know he has a sneak ahead.
1:51:20
I don't know, man, Listen, Joe,
1:51:22
you're confusing me. My brother, I
1:51:26
deserve a text, Give me a text,
1:51:28
Fat.
1:51:28
Joe, let me know what talk which
1:51:31
sort we flipped flopping too?
1:51:35
I don't I don't you know.
1:51:36
I don't think we benefit from neither of those
1:51:39
dudes.
1:51:39
And both of those parties aren't couds with each other. Bro
1:51:42
almost spready to vote for again that
1:51:45
part? How
1:51:47
did that record come about.
1:51:51
It?
1:51:52
That makes it?
1:51:53
That was real? That was a real good ship
1:51:56
right there, that part.
1:52:01
So I
1:52:03
had this record, Cardos sent it boom
1:52:06
that part make it? When
1:52:08
I was the top and I'm like, bro, I want Kanye on
1:52:10
it. I was like, I'm a street for the stars, right, I
1:52:13
want Kanye on this motherfucker Like
1:52:15
all right, let me see what's up? And I guess he
1:52:17
sent it to him and I ran it to him.
1:52:19
Kobe's Last Game?
1:52:22
Hold on, you going to talk about what did you
1:52:24
just say? Kobe's last game? Kobe's
1:52:26
last game? You ran into Kanye
1:52:29
West?
1:52:29
Yeah?
1:52:30
Yeah and Stable Center Yeah,
1:52:33
not the Crypto arena, Staple
1:52:35
Center, Stable Center continued, Yeah, he dropped
1:52:37
sixty bo yeah, Kobe, it's a sixty
1:52:39
game, yeah, legendary.
1:52:42
Yeah, yeah, he yeah.
1:52:45
I ran into ya and he like, uh, I
1:52:48
got the.
1:52:48
Record blah blah blah, that'sh it hard blah
1:52:51
blah blah blah.
1:52:52
And I'm like, what the fuck he telling
1:52:54
you this?
1:52:54
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he just what you know, he
1:52:57
just we introduce that just my first time meeting
1:52:59
him too, and then he just like, I
1:53:03
don't know that. I
1:53:06
don't remember that part. I don't know not
1:53:08
that part. Yeah,
1:53:11
we slap hands or whatever, and
1:53:13
he's just like, oh, yeah, pleasure to meet
1:53:15
you, bro. The record hard blah blah blah, I'm
1:53:17
gonna do it tonight. I'm gonna send it to you tomorrow blah
1:53:20
blah blah. Showing up the next day, I had to
1:53:22
burst and I was like, what the
1:53:24
fuck? No politics, no politics,
1:53:26
no nothing. For the love
1:53:29
here take it and.
1:53:32
Showed up to the video. He
1:53:34
showed up to the video by itself, by
1:53:36
itself. He showed to the video byself.
1:53:40
I'm like Kanye Cole And
1:53:42
then he wanted to hear my album and that I played
1:53:44
some of the album. He's like, this is
1:53:46
suit in your car and my car. I
1:53:49
had a little portion. He listened
1:53:51
to some of the album and the Porsche and I'm like, this is
1:53:54
what the fuck? Like this is Kanye West, like what
1:53:56
the fuck is going on? This motherfucker jump out
1:53:58
by himself, eating the car, my homies
1:54:00
and Ship there.
1:54:01
They couldn't believe it too. They just stare in that Carr like
1:54:03
what's up with col Like
1:54:06
why why Dolo?
1:54:08
Like by itself right,
1:54:12
like damn, I
1:54:16
couldn't believe it, like this is yah, And then you went
1:54:18
to McDonald's right.
1:54:21
Like bro. But I
1:54:23
mean, but that's another thing, like when people love
1:54:25
you like ain't nobody would never disrespect
1:54:28
like you know what I mean.
1:54:28
You would be such a sucker to like try to harm
1:54:31
you know what I mean?
1:54:32
And like you know, that's the respect
1:54:34
that you know he carried
1:54:37
through his art that he put out. You know what I'm saying, Like
1:54:40
I mean, was nobody gonna do nothing anyway, But I'm
1:54:42
just saying, like, you know he can move like that. You
1:54:44
know, that's how I want to be able to move like Ship
1:54:47
by myself. You know every
1:54:49
time you shouldn't.
1:54:50
Though, but you know, I mean the flipp is someone
1:54:52
will say that's that's arrogant as well,
1:54:55
because we also.
1:54:55
Talk about you know, kind of knowing yeah yeah,
1:54:57
yeah, yeah, I mean I mean when there's
1:55:00
like we said that sometimes sometimes,
1:55:03
yeah, you should have security and like people
1:55:05
knowing where you're going to be here, you're.
1:55:07
Not even security, just even if it's you
1:55:09
know, someone in your friends, just
1:55:11
someone there watching where you're not watching.
1:55:13
Yeah, for sure, for sure. But he
1:55:16
felt, you know, he felt comfortable and he was
1:55:18
comfortable and that was dope.
1:55:20
Yeah, if alien comes down,
1:55:22
right, I'm gonna say, what's up.
1:55:25
I'm a smoky I gotta smoke.
1:55:27
And he's smoking with you and he's saying, Yo, school board,
1:55:30
I need one hip hop album to
1:55:32
tell me to describe
1:55:35
all of hip hop?
1:55:37
What's that one hip hop album? You would tell that? Ellie?
1:55:39
You know I'm gonna say Blue Lips that
1:55:42
you know I'm gonna say.
1:55:46
I thought you would say imatic. No, okay,
1:55:49
I love you, but I'm not telling them no
1:55:55
one chance, one chance din't
1:55:59
get the bank match.
1:56:05
But all right, So you was
1:56:07
number eighty four playing football with
1:56:10
Andrew Harris and Sam Yeah
1:56:14
these guys went on to the NFL.
1:56:16
I don't think so they
1:56:18
made it like like college though.
1:56:20
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah they did some they
1:56:23
did some shout out to them. Honestly,
1:56:26
bro, I was I was still
1:56:28
game when I was playing football. I was just showing
1:56:30
up to practice. I didn't even know who on the fucking team.
1:56:33
I know like maybe three people on that team.
1:56:38
I remember a few people. I remember
1:56:40
a few. I remember the round tree round
1:56:42
tree where you at man roundtree. The
1:56:45
thing is farmed ug round tree.
1:56:48
He was a good one. He
1:56:50
was a good.
1:56:52
He was a good linebacker. Dude.
1:56:56
My homeboy Floyd played on the team. I
1:56:58
do remember Sam Rodger, Ryan,
1:57:03
Ryan, Henry. Uh
1:57:07
those schools is West l A. Yeah,
1:57:11
That's that's pretty much all I remember. And
1:57:17
I'm pretty sure I know faces
1:57:19
for sure, but names.
1:57:20
Not so much.
1:57:21
I was like, yeah, but I was wild.
1:57:24
I used to have my round tree of
1:57:26
this. But y'all, I never probably meet him, but I
1:57:29
used to have my burner on the side. I was extra
1:57:31
out. I to have my burner on the side
1:57:34
of the practice.
1:57:35
It was.
1:57:38
It was a dude.
1:57:38
It was.
1:57:42
It was a dude that I didn't really see.
1:57:49
But we was on the same team and I just didn't know
1:57:51
that. It was just stupid.
1:57:54
Yeah, it was. It was. It was
1:57:56
dumb, bro.
1:57:57
It was just like, that's not even a flex
1:57:59
really, but it's just hilarious, hilarious,
1:58:01
stir like having my gun on the sideline
1:58:04
like I'm.
1:58:04
Like like I'm gonna run to the gun like.
1:58:08
Dumb man.
1:58:08
Ship you know what I'm saying, you Lewis
1:58:11
ship early look stupid. It's just dumb.
1:58:15
Like hey, relax man, take
1:58:18
off your question. Let's
1:58:20
talk about throwing with twenty one savage.
1:58:23
Yeah, how does that come about?
1:58:25
That was me just like you know, like
1:58:28
you said earlier, you can.
1:58:29
Just make the hits and do it. And I was just like, let's
1:58:31
make a hit real quick, and I
1:58:34
just it was easy. Should
1:58:36
be easy, yeah, like ship like studio Nah.
1:58:39
I sent it to him, I put
1:58:41
up on him and then just game the
1:58:43
record and he's like, yeah, I'm gonna do it.
1:58:45
And that was it.
1:58:47
We don't really got like no relationships like
1:58:49
ship easy, bro to be honest,
1:58:52
like making them type of records that's easy. I
1:58:55
could do like twenty of them ships in the night like
1:58:57
easy.
1:58:58
Let me ask you because I asked
1:59:00
Nas, you know a
1:59:03
person that everyone loves. I said, Nas,
1:59:06
has there ever been anyone's ever
1:59:08
a front on you on the feature? And
1:59:10
he said no and then he said stopped me said yes,
1:59:13
you know what, there's somebody that front of me
1:59:15
and he said.
1:59:16
It's prince and
1:59:19
I'll tell you why lady if you don't remember.
1:59:20
But is there anyone, because, like I said,
1:59:23
you have some of the most phenomenal guest features
1:59:25
ever. Has there anyone who's ever told you
1:59:27
no or ghosted you?
1:59:29
Yeah?
1:59:30
A bunch who I won't say
1:59:32
their names. That's not cool. Just one, just
1:59:38
one one?
1:59:40
What's the one I could say? I
1:59:43
don't I don't think. I
1:59:47
don't think this one respectfully.
1:59:55
There's a few. Okay, it's
1:59:57
a few. If you want to name a few, I'm.
1:59:59
With that, but
2:00:06
I don't know.
2:00:07
Yeah, who did you front on a
2:00:10
lot? Shot?
2:00:17
Shot? I
2:00:20
don't want to shot too. I don't think that's fair. I don't
2:00:22
think there No, it'sn't
2:00:25
it is.
2:00:26
Yeah, I don't think that's fair because like just because
2:00:29
somebody don't do a verse because it was versus.
2:00:31
I didn't do it for people that I really liked the song
2:00:34
but they.
2:00:34
Don't really like front Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
2:00:36
like getting in the way of it likely.
2:00:37
Yeah, Like I mentioned, like I had a chance
2:00:40
to do a song with Nipsey and I loved the song, but he
2:00:42
wasn't front on them.
2:00:43
Yeah, yeah, I wasn't front on him. It was just
2:00:45
like timing and ship.
2:00:47
So sometimes it just don't work out, especially
2:00:50
now the way you know, rappers are like
2:00:52
fucking mega megastars
2:00:54
now, so people be moving
2:00:56
around.
2:00:57
We like athletes and ship.
2:00:58
Ain't one person that didn't you first
2:01:00
for you, I'm a name one of the homies.
2:01:02
Then Kendrick didn't do a verse from me before.
2:01:08
You said just one.
2:01:09
I respect that you take
2:01:12
a shot that take a shot, take
2:01:15
a shot for hills breathing right now. Chop
2:01:18
six with Travis Scott, Yeah, how
2:01:20
did that come about?
2:01:21
The same things like make up
2:01:23
and that's gonna that
2:01:26
was just a Billboard album. It
2:01:28
was like just hit Billboard, do this, do
2:01:31
this, do this like that? Just
2:01:34
I could.
2:01:35
I can literally do whatever.
2:01:36
Bro.
2:01:36
This ship is easy. I'm telling you this ship is easy.
2:01:38
Bro.
2:01:39
I'm nasty, bro. I mean, but that's
2:01:41
not like a song that I hold like
2:01:43
as like one of my greatest songs.
2:01:45
And it's a good song man,
2:01:47
great fun.
2:01:48
I appreciate it. But I can
2:01:50
do that type of ship like I
2:01:52
can do whatever. That's ship easy. Oh that's ship
2:01:54
easy, Okay,
2:01:57
Collar.
2:01:57
Greens don't say that's
2:02:01
easy too.
2:02:02
I did that and Man of the Year the same night, Great
2:02:05
Records. Man, I was high as a motherfucker
2:02:07
too. Let me at off making greens.
2:02:10
Do you eat?
2:02:10
Call of greens of course? Now what
2:02:13
kind of collagreeens do you eat with the pork in it?
2:02:15
Or with the turkey in it?
2:02:16
Brom from l A, I eat pork in
2:02:19
turkey. Bro, I'm not off
2:02:21
Muslim brother, you know what I mean. Shout
2:02:23
out to my Muslim brothers. F o y,
2:02:26
you know what I'm saying. But you know, but
2:02:28
I'm not like a super pork eater though,
2:02:30
Like I eat like pork in greens.
2:02:34
Like bacon, you know what I'm
2:02:37
saying. But I'm not really like nah,
2:02:41
I'm not like eating like pork chops and pork.
2:02:45
But no.
2:02:46
So so I finished
2:02:48
Oxymoron and yeah, I
2:02:50
told the story before I finished, actually moron,
2:02:53
I.
2:02:56
You know, topping them hit me like, bro, we.
2:02:58
Need to uh single,
2:03:01
Bro, we need a single blah blah blah blah blah,
2:03:03
you know, just to me coming out and I'm like, you know, I
2:03:05
had the hands on the wheel and you
2:03:07
know, I'm like on fire and ship just
2:03:10
gonna be a big moment.
2:03:10
Bro blah blah, blah blah.
2:03:12
And I'm like kissed, you know, because mainly's
2:03:14
just somebody telling me what to do.
2:03:16
You didn't want to be told. Yeah yeah yeah, like
2:03:18
you know, just stubborn like an artist.
2:03:20
He was right though, Yeah it wasn't wrong, you know what I'm
2:03:22
saying, Like he was just one right, But I was just
2:03:24
like, bro, I got studio, like that's
2:03:27
good, Like you know what I mean.
2:03:29
I saw the future of that right yeah yeah, to
2:03:31
get to that.
2:03:32
Yeah, so I was pissed. I got high at ship.
2:03:34
I got a brust some lean yeah,
2:03:37
brush my lean.
2:03:39
You out of control, you brust some lean.
2:03:41
Yeah yeah, brought some lean and
2:03:43
I took some pills and I just
2:03:47
mad as a motherfucker. I
2:03:50
made Collar Greens real quick, okas
2:03:54
mad?
2:03:55
Yeah, I was mad, yeah, mad,
2:03:58
Like they told me a little bit nobody
2:04:01
eat call greens man, you
2:04:03
was thinking, I
2:04:06
was thinking, So I went,
2:04:09
you know, made Call of Greens and then
2:04:11
after that I just loaded.
2:04:12
You said Outcasts they
2:04:14
like, uh influenced it, like
2:04:17
yeah, yeah, it's like Outcast did this ship. I'm
2:04:19
thinking, like, oh, they want like some pop ship,
2:04:22
even though I love pop ship. But I
2:04:24
was just like, oh, they probably want me to gold the same
2:04:26
Rouder's hands on the wheel, right, And
2:04:28
then that's when you know I picked that beat though
2:04:30
I picked you know, I could have picked anything, but
2:04:33
I you know, I lucky
2:04:35
picked the pop to me, you're a producer too.
2:04:37
Yeah, no, I am more than I am a rapper producer.
2:04:39
You be cracking on the back.
2:04:41
Yeah, but yeah, I did
2:04:43
the ship real quick, being and then we just loaded
2:04:45
up Manute of the Year right after, and
2:04:48
I did that, and I remember Dot calling
2:04:50
me on the FaceTime about
2:04:52
some ship, was asking me about something and he heard in
2:04:55
the Year playing like this.
2:04:56
Oh yeah, yeah.
2:04:59
And then because he was working on Bitch Don't
2:05:01
Kill My Vibe video, and then he
2:05:03
heard Man of the Year
2:05:06
in the background playing and hear
2:05:09
me rapping, He's like, bro, I want to put this on the end
2:05:11
of.
2:05:13
One of his videos he had.
2:05:14
I don't even know if it was Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe that
2:05:16
he put it at the background, but it was one of his videos.
2:05:20
So yeah, I had to make sure I finished
2:05:22
the last verse, and I just you know, I just had a verse
2:05:24
no hook and ship like that, and so I just
2:05:26
finished it right quick, and yeah, and I was just
2:05:30
yeah, and I just sent it in like here do y'all
2:05:32
wanted singles? I was like at an attitude with it. Y'all
2:05:34
wanted singles, go to singles
2:05:37
them through text in and.
2:05:39
Thank you job.
2:05:44
I'm like, you know, I'm mad and ship, you know what I mean,
2:05:46
all like trying to tell me something like
2:05:49
you know, like just stubborn.
2:05:51
Those are great records, man. Yeah, yeah, okay, let's talk
2:05:53
about goovy Tony.
2:05:54
Groovy Tony. That's
2:05:57
just hard blank face
2:05:59
tray klabody, fucking a K,
2:06:02
selling arcotics, step my dollars up to
2:06:04
Bill Gates, pushing all limits,
2:06:06
looking timid, neat the back off punk
2:06:09
ass cops and crackers won us with all blackoff.
2:06:14
Illume. No.
2:06:19
I was just bullshit, just fucking around,
2:06:21
Like I said, this shit is easy, bro.
2:06:23
Just turn the beat on.
2:06:25
Just yell at the fucking wall, say
2:06:27
that shit. That's how that shit came
2:06:29
out, you know what I mean? And put kiss
2:06:32
on there and that was
2:06:34
history. While I that
2:06:37
was easy. But I just
2:06:39
I just you know, all music is like, you know, my
2:06:41
stories is all the same, bro. I just turned the beat
2:06:44
on and yell at the fucking wall, Yell
2:06:46
at the wall. And I'm normally by myself
2:06:49
in the studio. I'll put like you know, sometimes
2:06:51
I'll do ideas with a bunch of people, but
2:06:53
for the most part, I just I'm
2:06:55
by myself early in the morning, just yelling at
2:06:57
the wall bro just and
2:07:00
just piece it together.
2:07:02
It's about yah, yay, yeah, yay.
2:07:06
Was that about cocaine conah?
2:07:11
I'm ready yeah ya, like
2:07:16
once again, just so it was like a street single,
2:07:18
man, Like, there's no no interest,
2:07:20
nothing introspective about it. It was just a
2:07:23
record like, you know, let's
2:07:25
make a slap, had fistols
2:07:27
in my hands that you know what I mean. I
2:07:29
don't even know that ship no more, but that ship
2:07:31
was banging, you know what I mean. It was like a street
2:07:34
single. It was like the first single off Oxymorra.
2:07:36
It was like before I hit him with this pop shit, that's
2:07:39
like, uh, let's
2:07:41
hit him with the uh. I normally
2:07:43
do that with every album though, like
2:07:45
Groovy Tony was technically the first
2:07:48
single off blank Face, and
2:07:50
but that part like I'll be saving like the joint,
2:07:53
so I just like because I don't want him to box it in or
2:07:56
have an idea what this album is going to be.
2:07:58
And then I just give him a three sixty almost
2:08:02
so yeah, yeah, was like, yeah,
2:08:07
I'm gonna give you this before I give you these pops
2:08:09
because I'm coming fop with it with the Cloud of Greens
2:08:11
and Man of the Year. I
2:08:14
don't I mean, is it is? I mean
2:08:17
pop though, rapis pop? Well?
2:08:19
Yeah, anything popular?
2:08:20
Yeah yeah yeah.
2:08:21
It's like I don't think I don't.
2:08:23
Hear those records thats pop though, Yeah, yeah, I
2:08:25
mean I hear them as pop.
2:08:26
But I think you're making hardcore
2:08:29
music that happens to turn to pop.
2:08:31
No.
2:08:32
I think I think pop
2:08:34
isaking down on pop.
2:08:36
I think looking down on pop
2:08:39
is just the way that you seem like you're going into the booth
2:08:41
saying this is a pop record already.
2:08:43
No, yeah, I hear it as a pop record.
2:08:47
Yeah, yeah, what I'm saying, yeah yeah, but no,
2:08:49
I just I just I.
2:08:51
Love pop records though. I love like Nerd and
2:08:53
Ship. You know what I'm saying.
2:08:54
I love yeah real
2:08:57
yeah yeah, I love that ship like so it's
2:09:00
like, okay, we love it too.
2:09:01
Yeah that's pop yeah yeah yeah,
2:09:04
but it wonn't pop when they went in the studios.
2:09:06
What I'm trying to tell y'all like I mean rapist,
2:09:09
yeah, rapist, Like if
2:09:11
you're a true creative, you're not really really
2:09:13
saying. I mean, don't get me wrong,
2:09:15
there are artists that go in there and say right,
2:09:19
but I don't think any real like hip
2:09:21
hop artist goes in and be like, Yo, this is gonna
2:09:23
be the pop is pop?
2:09:25
No?
2:09:25
No, no, no, no was
2:09:27
out there for that was
2:09:29
hardcore bro. I mean but I can't
2:09:32
hear it.
2:09:34
But I can't hear it beat and hear in my direction
2:09:36
and tell like oh yeah I'm going I'm
2:09:38
going this way and not accept
2:09:41
it. But like I said, rap is the highest form so
2:09:43
like of music to me, like so we're
2:09:46
everything, Like like
2:09:49
even though it's a pop I wouldn't want my ship to be in
2:09:51
the pop category. I wouldn't want that ship to be like
2:09:53
nominated a pop record of the year. Hell
2:09:55
no, I feel disrespected. Yes, it is a rap
2:09:57
record, but what I'm just saying is just like you know, like
2:10:00
you knew it was gonna hit the masses, yeah pop
2:10:02
yeah pop?
2:10:03
Right, Yeah, you wasn't making it
2:10:05
for your homies just.
2:10:07
Big yeah yeah yeah yeah that was I
2:10:09
knew what that song was gonna be. Yeah, exactly
2:10:13
what it was water Water.
2:10:15
It's a little bake, another
2:10:18
easy one. Cardo
2:10:20
sent it. Kendrick had
2:10:22
to beat. Kendrick had
2:10:25
to beat, and he was like, I can't do nothing with this,
2:10:28
like you take this motherfucking.
2:10:31
Card already had to hook on there. That was Kendrick's
2:10:33
beat first. Yeah, it was just beat.
2:10:37
And he gave it to me like yeah, Carlo
2:10:39
had to hook on it already and
2:10:42
I just wrapped on it. That shit was easy and
2:10:44
send it a little baby like that was just like
2:10:46
the easy process, easy process. But
2:10:49
yeah, there wasn't nothing deep about that one either.
2:10:54
Yeah, nothing deep about that one.
2:10:56
So which record is hard for you?
2:10:57
Here?
2:10:58
Everything you're saying is all
2:11:02
that shit easy?
2:11:03
Bro?
2:11:03
What's a tyfficult record that you went into and said this is
2:11:05
Blue Slides? That's because it's like that's
2:11:08
whose world is this? Yeah?
2:11:10
Yeah, like you know.
2:11:12
Twenty twenty four.
2:11:14
Because super introspective,
2:11:17
like happened to tap into that that vulnerability
2:11:20
right climb like and the
2:11:22
first words hitting how they hit, but
2:11:24
a climb out of that hole before you fuck up your blessings.
2:11:27
Like I've been trying to come up with a song
2:11:29
whereas I like do that for
2:11:31
so long. You know what I'm saying,
2:11:34
Like my whole career has been me trying
2:11:36
to get a line off
2:11:38
like that pretty much, like you know what I'm saying,
2:11:40
Like I'm always searching for this like thing
2:11:43
where I feel like it's perfect, Like, oh,
2:11:45
I did this perfect thing and that's
2:11:48
what you know.
2:11:49
So I feel like blue slides because
2:11:51
it took me my whole career.
2:11:53
To be able to do that,
2:11:56
like climb out of that hole before you fuck up your blessings,
2:11:58
before you realize that it's over winds hard to get
2:12:00
desperate.
2:12:01
That like sums up pretty much.
2:12:03
A lot came out the gate with you
2:12:05
know what I'm saying, Like that sums up a lot of
2:12:07
shit that's going on right now. So many people
2:12:09
in desperate situations and doing desperate
2:12:11
shit right now to just
2:12:14
stay afloat and it's mad weird, like I said,
2:12:16
we said earlier like people scared the act of age
2:12:19
and you know that line
2:12:21
to me and those words are like
2:12:24
I've been working my whole career to say it.
2:12:26
Yeah, why didn't
2:12:29
this album be
2:12:33
all visual? Because
2:12:37
that to me, when I hear it, it
2:12:39
feels visual.
2:12:41
Yeah, So when I was rolling it out,
2:12:43
I showed a lot of visuals, Like,
2:12:46
I did a lot of visual parts
2:12:48
of it, but I
2:12:51
didn't really want to do anything
2:12:53
after the album dropped for like a
2:12:55
couple of weeks, put anything out and just let
2:12:57
it live for a little bit and then
2:12:59
I can back into the album. So I
2:13:02
do have more visuals and I'm
2:13:04
shooting. I'm pretty much making it that a
2:13:07
visual album book,
2:13:10
making it like an art piece, the whole art,
2:13:13
the whole thing, like a whole theme around
2:13:15
it. So yeah, it's
2:13:17
more visuals to it. I
2:13:19
film myself for the last
2:13:22
four years recording it to so
2:13:26
it's years of footage of me just making
2:13:28
this album. So I have
2:13:31
a lot to document the whole
2:13:33
album. I knew, I knew this album was like special
2:13:38
for me, and so
2:13:40
I documented it from day one. So
2:13:42
we go see this on Netflix hopefully.
2:13:45
I mean, I ain't gonna just say Netflix, I ain't about
2:13:47
to give them the play like that ship.
2:13:49
Who knows? Who knows what's
2:13:51
going on video? Who knows what's going on Spotify?
2:13:55
Whoever got that break the Bank check?
2:13:57
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Whoever got that? You know what
2:13:59
I mean?
2:14:00
Whatever? Whatever, Break
2:14:03
the.
2:14:04
Bank Alchemist Alchemist killed
2:14:06
it with this one, oh man alchemists
2:14:08
being at Alchemist. So pulling
2:14:12
up to out. You know, we
2:14:14
already had a relationship. We did to my homie
2:14:16
record, and now I'm like trying
2:14:19
to take it there. So now I'm like trying
2:14:21
to you know, focusing on hooks and ship. We
2:14:25
did Hoover Street and break
2:14:28
the bank. But
2:14:31
yeah, I was just so high again once again
2:14:34
super lean out and
2:14:38
I just did the hook and
2:14:40
then mumbled pretty much to versus
2:14:43
and then I came back like the next
2:14:46
day, and then I kind of pinned
2:14:48
it, pinned it down, fell asleep,
2:14:51
pinned the second verse, fell asleep
2:14:54
t.
2:14:55
Third This sounds like roll
2:15:00
the third verse. Yeah, so just
2:15:02
up and down, fall asleep, wake
2:15:05
up.
2:15:05
But you know, it was just one of those moments,
2:15:08
you know, like I said, he's my favorite producer. Anytime
2:15:10
I get in he's incredible. Anytime
2:15:12
I'm with him, it's always like, you know, like
2:15:16
I caim you know, this is like my dog.
2:15:19
Yeah, Like so you know, it was like one
2:15:21
of those let's break the bank, you know
2:15:23
what I mean. That's why where I was
2:15:26
feeling with it, Like I came
2:15:28
I finally got to this point and I'm in here with my
2:15:30
favorite producer. Like you know
2:15:32
what I'm saying, Like, let's kick that. You
2:15:35
know what I mean, Let's break the bank.
2:15:36
Sure. So I
2:15:39
love the respect that you showed Kot.
2:15:41
Right.
2:15:41
Yeah, So
2:15:44
God comes to you one day, God
2:15:48
real God, God, God
2:15:52
comes in your bedroom. He
2:15:54
got k Dot in the headlock.
2:15:57
What a scenario. God got a
2:15:59
gun to key God.
2:16:00
Jesus, God is Walace
2:16:02
And God says to you, you got
2:16:05
one record to make for me, school
2:16:07
woke you.
2:16:09
You got one beat.
2:16:12
And one feature to
2:16:15
make the masterpiece to
2:16:18
save k dot life?
2:16:21
What God gotta be doing? What the devil? Can
2:16:24
it be? Defel?
2:16:24
God is the found nigga too. Let's just be clear.
2:16:27
God made the devil. God
2:16:29
made evil. So God, you wake up and you're
2:16:31
like, oh ship.
2:16:32
God, what's up? God? Like nigga.
2:16:35
You make a decision. You got one
2:16:37
nigga to make a beat and
2:16:40
one feature.
2:16:44
Right now, right now.
2:16:46
So it's like like what type of song
2:16:49
it has to be?
2:16:50
Like a fucking like hit record or just ad
2:16:56
I got one chance to do something, all right,
2:16:58
so I have to go of right
2:17:00
now? I would say probably
2:17:03
me and Tyler. That's
2:17:06
the feature yeah, and he did. Yeah,
2:17:10
he's doing the beat.
2:17:11
Yeah, he's not the feature. He's
2:17:13
doing in the feature. Okay, whoa,
2:17:15
whoa, you fuck me up now, don't tell me.
2:17:17
God don't like that. I'm talking. So
2:17:22
and he did that is a producer.
2:17:28
You don't.
2:17:31
You fuck me up? You
2:17:33
forgot he me situation.
2:17:37
God, this is just mere taking kao next
2:17:39
alright you you
2:17:44
and Tyler was gonna make the beat and
2:17:47
he's gonna do the firse. Yeah. Dave
2:17:50
Katoks like yeah, because you know that too,
2:17:52
So we.
2:17:56
Just say yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:18:00
A lie, I wasn't ready for I
2:18:02
want to a shot for that. I want to shot
2:18:04
that. I wasn't really I was. You're
2:18:07
gonna say nothing, Dre? No one
2:18:10
who put you on? Correct? Uh top
2:18:13
put me on? Yeah?
2:18:17
He said as
2:18:20
well, yeah, yeah, I know that. He
2:18:22
tried to like vouch he vouched. It was
2:18:25
like so, Manny
2:18:27
Smith, Manny Smith, I
2:18:29
wanted to sign me from Interscope and
2:18:31
d J pretty much Jimmy,
2:18:35
I.
2:18:35
Mean's nephew, DJ, you
2:18:38
got a shot. That's
2:18:41
your shot, Okay, cool, cool slot
2:18:49
what you're saying about about drear.
2:18:53
So Dre yeah, Dre pretty much
2:18:56
he heard I had a song called what's the Word with j Rock.
2:18:59
Then he heard it, He's like, oh
2:19:01
yeah, yeah, I need to this is
2:19:03
hard.
2:19:04
After Kendrick and Dre. Yeah,
2:19:06
but both of us wasn't signed at the time.
2:19:08
We was just fucking with Dre's
2:19:11
crazy.
2:19:12
Yeah. Yeah, give credits to Dre on for
2:19:14
sure, for sure, for sure. Like, uh,
2:19:17
because you're saying it's.
2:19:18
Legit, because you know, some people will highlight Dre and
2:19:20
it and and make it seem like they just
2:19:22
using Dre's name, like
2:19:24
Dre. Yeah, yeah,
2:19:27
he heard what's
2:19:30
the word and yeah,
2:19:34
but but they were like already interested in it,
2:19:37
but there wasn't like.
2:19:38
Like, oh yeah, we're going to do it. J
2:19:40
Yeah.
2:19:41
J was like uh you know, this is
2:19:43
it, this is it. Was like yeah, we're going to sign
2:19:45
it. Yeah yeah. So yeah he
2:19:48
had yeah, he had a he had a piece to do it.
2:19:52
And no politics again, right, no.
2:19:54
Politics, no politics, no politics.
2:19:56
Dre is a good dude, bro. He let me, let
2:19:59
me, let me use the student to mix
2:20:01
blue lips.
2:20:01
Actually, so you think Dre
2:20:04
is like sorry, the same way that you were
2:20:06
saying, how you want to highlight
2:20:09
home team, you know, your city. It
2:20:12
seems like Dre's trying to give back in his
2:20:14
way.
2:20:14
No, yeah, he always did though. I mean,
2:20:16
Dre always put on Like I'm
2:20:18
just saying that for the people that don't know, you know, yeah.
2:20:20
Hell yeah, Drake. You know what I'm saying. That's
2:20:23
this whole thing he put on. He put on
2:20:25
for the city.
2:20:26
You know what I mean. What you do with it after that is
2:20:28
on you, right, you know what I'm saying.
2:20:29
But Dre put on, he put on Like
2:20:32
if anybody put on, Drake put on, he
2:20:34
wouldn't got everybody. He wasn't trying to get motherfuckers
2:20:36
from over here, Like
2:20:39
you came from the city, bro, get out, you know what
2:20:41
I mean. Dre was looking for motherfuckers from the city, So
2:20:44
he put on for Shure for sure.
2:20:46
Did he go there?
2:20:47
You go?
2:20:50
That was I did that at a TD
2:20:52
studio and Carson that was
2:20:55
me city Carson.
2:20:57
Yeah, that was me trying to
2:21:00
und like my daughter Nicki Minaj.
2:21:04
Hilarious, You lost me
2:21:06
on that one, like your daughter Nicki.
2:21:08
Minaj, like my daughter and Nicki
2:21:10
Mina. Yeah,
2:21:12
like just like Nikki used to play with
2:21:14
her voice, you're.
2:21:15
Trying to manipulate your voice.
2:21:16
Yeah, yeah, like I was like like just choking
2:21:19
around almost like uh like
2:21:21
trying to say it like my daughter, like.
2:21:24
Yeah, so Nicki Minaj influenced that, let's
2:21:27
go but.
2:21:33
Creatively be
2:21:36
listening to you, Everyone listening to you. You
2:21:39
describing that right now, and
2:21:42
you said it earlier, but I want you to to reiterate
2:21:44
that. Why aren't you scared
2:21:46
to take chances where artists are and
2:21:50
artists follow us traditional
2:21:52
route?
2:21:53
Why aren't you scared
2:21:55
to do that? Because I will always
2:21:58
like have like a joint on there. You
2:22:01
know what I'm saying. You're that confident? Yeah,
2:22:03
yeah it really is.
2:22:04
Yeah, yeah that.
2:22:05
Too, like you know.
2:22:06
And I was like I said, you know, I always
2:22:09
you know, I always may like hit records
2:22:11
and shit.
2:22:11
So it was like.
2:22:13
Once you do that, you can do what you want after
2:22:16
that, when you got those records locked
2:22:18
in, like uh, just
2:22:20
make you know, make make what you want
2:22:23
to make, really make what you want to make. And
2:22:26
yeah, I always had like this weird ear, so
2:22:28
like, well I try to fake it, like you
2:22:30
know, like I had this other ear.
2:22:31
You know what I mean, try to fit in in something that I don't.
2:22:34
So I just always stay true to myself,
2:22:38
even at times when I thought I wasn't being
2:22:40
true to myself. You know, I
2:22:43
was still being true to myself. You
2:22:46
know what I'm saying straight up?
2:22:48
So when does the Schoolboy q Oh
2:22:52
not documentary but.
2:22:55
Not reality, but oh, like
2:22:58
curb your enthusiasm sign
2:23:01
failed type of show dropping
2:23:04
it has to You've seen vit, Staples.
2:23:09
Watch that, man.
2:23:10
I haven't got a chance men Champs,
2:23:12
and I
2:23:17
have not seen it to jay Z yet.
2:23:19
I've been trying to get a good clean
2:23:22
clip of it to send it to Jay and I
2:23:24
haven't got it.
2:23:25
So I'm just gonna let the go. But when
2:23:27
are you? When are you? You're going to do that? Your
2:23:31
personality is hilarious.
2:23:33
I would love to do it, but at
2:23:35
the same time, my heart is still really
2:23:37
in the music.
2:23:38
Wow, I don't know if I could music and golf.
2:23:41
You should do a golf version of Golf Golf
2:23:44
through Kirby Enthusiasm.
2:23:46
Yeah.
2:23:48
I actually wrote a golf show. Actually really,
2:23:51
I did Smoke Weed and golf.
2:23:53
Yeah, I would like to be a part of it. Yeah,
2:23:57
I did.
2:23:57
I actually wrote a golf show, but
2:24:00
I never like pitched it to nobody
2:24:02
or try to like.
2:24:05
Do anything with it. I just wrote it. Because
2:24:07
it's just like writing. It's not called
2:24:09
Let's go golfing. No, I
2:24:12
don't. It doesn't even have a name yet.
2:24:14
Okay, yeah, but it's I written
2:24:17
like I written like uh, I would
2:24:19
say seven episodes at
2:24:22
least, I think I did. I don't
2:24:24
know, like the structure and ship. I just wrote
2:24:27
things down like the moments. Yeah
2:24:29
yeah yeah, and like just like
2:24:31
kind of put it together.
2:24:32
Yeah I didn't. I probably
2:24:35
need to sit with a rider though. So let
2:24:37
me ask you. When you go golfing, do you go with the
2:24:39
homies? Yeah?
2:24:41
My boy, Royce Clayton, ex
2:24:43
baseball player, didn't know how to act like I
2:24:45
mean, that's my.
2:24:46
That's my he's an ex baseball player. Yeah
2:24:49
yeah, my homie
2:24:51
homies. Yeah, they don't. They don't really be
2:24:53
into it. They don't really be into it. Yeah,
2:24:57
they're not really into it. But I done brought a couple.
2:24:59
Of homies and it's like, oh yeah, this is cool.
2:25:02
It's cool.
2:25:02
Then they don't be into it.
2:25:03
Yeah yeah yeah,
2:25:05
but you know they get it though, once they
2:25:08
get out there one time, they understand like, oh I
2:25:10
get what you beyond you know what I mean,
2:25:12
like just getting faded like as the reason
2:25:14
I can't
2:25:17
even say I don't stop drinking anymore,
2:25:19
but you
2:25:21
know, I haven't been drinking like that.
2:25:24
Very nervous.
2:25:24
We didn't want to be the first people to camera.
2:25:28
They're gonna blame.
2:25:29
Us for this, and I wasn't like ship
2:25:32
like that, you know what I'm saying. So it's not like a
2:25:35
big deal.
2:25:36
What's your favorite part of the game. Is it making
2:25:38
the music or performing the music?
2:25:41
It depends, It depends,
2:25:45
It depends.
2:25:45
It depends, because I feel
2:25:48
them both. I feel both. Like making
2:25:50
the music, it's nothing like making the music and
2:25:52
it's nothing like.
2:25:53
Performing that is doing the crazy
2:25:55
show and they singing the words and you're looking
2:25:58
at somebody in the face and they like
2:26:00
really into it and they and it's like,
2:26:02
oh shit.
2:26:03
But you know what I'm saying. So
2:26:06
I think it's like, you know, they're
2:26:09
equal, because I heard.
2:26:11
You, me, me, not
2:26:13
only you, but all the TV. But
2:26:16
you guys are fucking stadium festival.
2:26:20
Yeah, music makers.
2:26:22
Yeah. Yeah.
2:26:24
And I heard you say you feel more
2:26:26
intimate having a two hundred people, you
2:26:29
know what I mean, gathering?
2:26:31
Yeah.
2:26:31
I think you said you said you rather do sobs
2:26:34
like around the world, like a SOB type of setence
2:26:37
New York around the world. Is that
2:26:39
because you can see people's expressions, you can
2:26:41
see people's.
2:26:43
Love for it. I haven't
2:26:45
done it in a while.
2:26:46
One. Two I
2:26:50
feel like for this album, this album
2:26:52
is the way it's made. It's
2:26:57
made like to be played like.
2:26:59
I don't even see how I can perform a
2:27:01
tour on this album and
2:27:03
not do it in order what you
2:27:05
mean.
2:27:05
The whole album?
2:27:06
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, It's
2:27:09
like one of those type of things. So I'm
2:27:11
trying to figure it out now what I'm going to do with my
2:27:13
tour, how we're going to do it because
2:27:15
it still has to make sense financially because
2:27:17
people like has to you
2:27:20
know, other you know, people.
2:27:21
Gotta eat too.
2:27:22
I can't just be like on me and just everybody
2:27:24
taking you know what I'm saying. So we're
2:27:27
trying to figure it out, like how we're going to do it
2:27:29
right now. The so the
2:27:33
the SOB's Arountal
2:27:35
World probably won't work out. We already
2:27:37
tried, We already thought about it and.
2:27:39
Try to get it to it makes more sense. Is the
2:27:41
arena type of thing? No, I can't.
2:27:43
I can't fill the arena everywhere, but
2:27:47
I could, you know, do bring
2:27:50
it down a little bit and then't just do
2:27:53
multiple shows. But I probably won't be
2:27:55
able to do the two hundred cap like I wanted
2:27:57
to, but I can break it down
2:27:59
to maybe a thousand or seven
2:28:01
hundred and didn't do multiple throws
2:28:04
like that.
2:28:05
Well, listen, our show is about giving
2:28:07
people their flowers. Yeah, show,
2:28:09
it was about showing people they love. Thank
2:28:12
you, Bro, you a motherfucking legend, your
2:28:14
motherfucking lyricists, your motherfucking
2:28:17
person that's keeping this genre
2:28:19
and this generation alive. We wanted
2:28:21
to give you your flowers. We want to tell you
2:28:23
how dope you are, how ill
2:28:25
it is. We want you to thank
2:28:28
you, thank you your artist,
2:28:30
artists, your king of kings, and
2:28:32
we wanted to salute you to your face.
2:28:35
Man, say tell you this is your
2:28:37
platform. Thank you.
2:28:38
You ain't got to be dropping nothing. You could
2:28:41
just come here. I just want to just talk about your motherfucking
2:28:43
you know, your great.
2:28:44
Hairs and your.
2:28:49
Great hairs, and we don't give a fuck. This
2:28:51
is your motherfucking flatform. This is fucking hip
2:28:53
hop, and you are hip hop.
2:28:56
So we wanted to get you maybe
2:28:59
what pictures, so drive to
2:29:02
that's good. Yeah, drink
2:29:05
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