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monk young grew

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who blew my fucking mind

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are you kidding me wait you hear this this

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everybody please welcome monk use

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rou the bt fh

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yeah that the alternative last

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integrative well as complementary

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thing has been very

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much a topic

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of contention in my family is my father

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was very famous physician and he

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went to china very early like

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in the seventies and eighties and

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he witnessed some open heart surgery

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using know anesthesia

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and it was done with acupuncture in valley

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when came equip photos and descriptions

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of this everyone that he was a fool

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and he had been duped and that if you open that

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raza case you have no pressure

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on along so you can't breathe and i

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guess i should have known better than to be fooled

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by such magician strength and

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he was so angry he said listen

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you know i'm cardiologist

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that's been my life in wars in iraq

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it wasn't them wasn't talking head with body

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lying underneath isn't gonna do

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anything that does now and out

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and i'm not a million and million will i saw it saw it

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us how it works i don't know but ended

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up writing hope book about so he

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was kind of little more inclined

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in favor of of wild there

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is and thought that a lot of other any

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ass lgbt isn't that reaction

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couldn't you say that's of form of racism

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that's just a form of western racism which

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is these people over there there's

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savages they're going to trick

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you don't fall for their bullshit or

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is over here in the west

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we've got it all figured out and

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we in we've got it so figured out we're

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going just or try to erase the

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cultures ancient

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practice is like being

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fraudulent or aggressive

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you're you're you're spot on and

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so the

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pet thing of mine about which has

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taken write often at the same

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time the that

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doesn't mean that there are liars

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, cheats interesting since nine and

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it also doesn't mean that

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, no

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the epicenter of evil on planet

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earth right now and the for people

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are suffering so my oh yeah oh you

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mean the people's republic of chart

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you mean there's the stairs chinese communist

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talking about the chinese communist party the

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use but right so there i

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guess i'm trying say says the reason for the

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antipathy

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it's not race oh yeah oh yeah

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i gotcha yes sure i

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, yeah that's it's so crazy

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to imagine that that this planet is

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a series of seems to be

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a bunch of cultural test tubes

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trying out all these various reality

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tunnels and that ah

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that seems to be the reality tunnel

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this reality tunnel is going to be one that

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encompasses the planet that's probably going to be

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yet whether we like or not

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yeah and we have if we have

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to do our best to let that not happened

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but i did see i should get a i ah the

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money they're putting into ai and staff it's just

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matter of time they irritate think it's

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in city it seems like they're their

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ability to ability to be in a hurry about

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well how their operate

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, know like him the united states recent events

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of kind of crazy rush rush

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bombing anyone you know that iraq

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were bombing you know vietnam

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whatever we're just but they just don't they trying to dissuade

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him grow and way the

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ground this is for these

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are not a terrible strategy

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though

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so that so they have been doing

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for thousands of years and them

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we are defined by the speed

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and greek culture which in we have

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exported to them i remember going years

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ago to the imperial city forbidden city

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in beijing like beijing was that

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moved to tears because he knows say i like

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setting all added and

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i get to the had an art gallery

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where there was it you know some exhibitions

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in fact if

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you live right above me there are

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at that horses on the a ceiling

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that came from that art gallery anyway

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i noticed it right next to it was

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was in

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the imperial city you know the the seat

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of the most fantastic he culture in

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the world and they've got a starbucks

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and everybody's lined up to habits

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there you know we we attempted to export

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are speeding real hyper capitalistic

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stuff to them and and there

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is is doing and rather than we are now i'm

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so the whole world is be smirks and

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, their aptitude and are right or yeah

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i mean how do

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you

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as a dallas you

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you

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that you recognize

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that i gates does

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does it seem like taoism has

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actually in some way helped the

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the see why they call

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themselves cdr as cdr as

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currencies yes have you senate

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committee for a c p that they don't like

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that they use a different acronym ah

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is like the people come

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, part of something over a plot there at some

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as it is like i don't know how that would have happened but

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just thought experiment know taoism

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taoism would it be would

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it even exists the ccp is it is

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a you know is a the fact that they have

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absorbed they must have absorbed in some

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way some much of that wisdom much of part

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what's making them so powerful

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this is a really

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really cool and interesting question which

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nobody else has ever asked

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me in an interview that i can think

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of at least right now so i'm glad

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you did as so

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in i'll give this answer but i'm

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gonna give to you in the context you

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know what is personally very

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the of and sad for me because know

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there's a war against religion

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going on now it's as always is

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just a bad you

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know she's in pink fear that

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spiritual people will rise

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in power and week in his regime wants

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social control is the number one thing

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try to make a north the large

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he only north korea and china

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and he will eventually do it

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i personally have this

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great appearing

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in pain in my spirit because

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of how much i love traditional chinese culture

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how much i love to travel there are

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many great friends great friends their and

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because of speaking

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frankly we

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are doing now that subject

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and writing articles

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and newsletters talks about elvis

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you know any words against the government

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according to their security

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law the recent

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one that made such whole a balloon conquer

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that

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enables them like give them the right in their

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own eyes

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to compare zona snatch

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me up and take to jail and they

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could do that can

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they could do it if i write pseudo learning

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to their own legal system you know anywhere

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i am so mad meet make sense

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you're not not a desirable thing limited

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to travel there anymore or or to

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go the

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chinese protectorates like se

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some places in southeast asia anyway

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the answer which is most fascinating

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that there is an age old

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tradition it really goes

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back

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you re dynastic

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it added to say before there was a china

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of the dallas master being

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the one whispers

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in the ear of the ruler and

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without a genius full of you

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know being nameless exhortations

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crafting an image of the

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siege as

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the one who isn't in unnecessarily

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says could do the emperor but lotta

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kisses lotta kisses right in

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the year elders you know what

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princess his daughter says married you

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, when he says that the military campaign

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if at all all know which

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side to believe and the emperor's

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that listen to those guys they're

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kingdoms in advance and eventually united

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china and the ones that didn't didn't so

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you're absolutely spot on

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and it's one of the fantastically cool things

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that there was philosophy that i

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as is for many

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years the i

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could get such a curious the

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it's such a curious philosophy in

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as always

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infuriated me more than any other one

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that i've ever tangled with ice

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slowly the data using the my

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toddler in the bathtub with the dislikes

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way dislikes language sounds he'll with so

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funny either three or on a one year old i read

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to them and they listen but they don't know

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what means and they'll say what does that mean

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and i'm going to me going don't know if

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i don't know why it's so beautiful

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and yeah beautiful it's is so it's

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infuriating that infuriating get my hands

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around hands at all and then that

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makes me feel deprived or something like as

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should be able to

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i will i will send you

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later some recommendations

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of translates as translates thing as you probably

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read and fifty my think about reading the

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to answer because it's

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storytelling enough is lot

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of same messages but they're funny little stories

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in like butchered danes never need to

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sharpen his knife and a lot of same

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concepts are there but kids can connect

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to them

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would you mind just giving our so

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hour before we go further working

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definition of taoism

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like asking

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me like

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what what isn't

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the side mannequin murder monkeys

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what what exactly as a human being as

16:11

are asking me and can you just

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you know briefly explain grass on

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it

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if it is it it's a question

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that scholars and i am not

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one by any means the

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the way they did smart

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enough oh let's go as

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it struggles with this for the

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really long time what what i can

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i can try to do is tell you that

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it's a very complex

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the nominee that the

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together history culture

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a lot of the religion

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leap only in the observation

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purely of nature it

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also the bunch of animals

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or and shamanism thrown in

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and it's all mixed up

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in a blender and it comes

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out as a thing that is

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quite porous permeable

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so that is able to

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go like like her like one of those

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mycelia as it grows you know and

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it occupies acres and acres is like

17:19

the hugest living thing but it's under the ground

17:21

you don't really see it's and it connects everything

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and that description

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really makes it so

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endlessly fun steady

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and as you say hillary

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area

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cheers into gear he added some

17:41

, elaborate most of time

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i'm laughing and just just

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at the fact that it really

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is in the end and nothing more

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at it's core and it's seedlings the

17:53

little

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embryo in middle of it is is

17:58

nothing more than a really today

18:00

it haitian longview

18:04

observation that away

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in nature works though

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you ask me about you know thousand

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contributing to china success and i told

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about the whispering in the ear so

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about this for an example this

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is when i made up of it but

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i've used it in some facts and people like like

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you know a probably

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possibly fictional character or

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may be like moses

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or jesus an amalgam of people

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that really lived that were turned into have a legend

18:38

something it's a

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china has the chinese

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culture has such a history of ancestor

18:45

worship that if if you want attribute

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that makes him give something some gravitas

18:52

you attributed to an

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ancestor so loud that just means the old

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boy or the old masters so you know there's

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a bunch of guys in a coffee klatch for like thirty

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clutch and death you

19:03

know they come up with some why things that

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they don't wanna attributed to the right to sue ellen

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next so they recently

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you know the old master said and

19:11

so he is very possible that there

19:14

was an old guy or there was no guy that doesn't

19:17

really matter could clear they were several officer

19:20

that book anyway man let's say for that

19:22

for the moment just for the fun of is a bit

19:24

you know that the putative love the

19:26

a librarian and that your dynasty

19:31

it's some and by the emperor one day and

19:33

the emphasis is on my wizard

19:37

long before harry potter but

19:39

, wizard i got

19:41

some news from spies that

19:44

someone it going to attack i

19:47

don't have enough army like cover

19:49

the entire perimeter of the country i know

19:51

where they're coming from north south east

19:53

was that i don't know where to put the troops to save

19:55

the kingdom i grew

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up oh could be lost

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if i intercepted the right place where

20:02

there might be with we would we could

20:04

save everything just to tell me what

20:06

were they come

20:07

and

20:09

leather cycling shit the

20:12

i know i can respect it deserves

20:14

every year and material set of

20:16

haven't i give me a

20:18

couple hours to think of this so goes

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out to the wrists goes on newsstands

20:23

under his favorite in a tree or

20:25

the river and he does the little meditation

20:28

and while meditating he watches

20:31

the

20:32

river flowing through slit

20:35

eyes the watches the river

20:38

suddenly he notices that there's some little

20:41

glinting stuff in

20:43

sand of the river like modern

20:45

would call micah member that a

20:47

shiny little stuff and

20:50

he happens to know because he watches the river

20:52

all the time of micah

20:55

arrives from some rocks that are up

20:57

at the very top and amount that

21:00

feed the river let

21:02

it be seeing that mike now

21:05

months early that

21:08

means that the snow packed

21:10

with sees the river is melting

21:13

then it shouldn't be melting cause it's only fair price

21:17

and if the snow pack is melting that

21:20

leads to an opportunity for enemies

21:22

to come through mountain pass that would ordinarily

21:25

be on passable and make sneak

21:27

attack so , back

21:29

to the to the entrances in a cyrus

21:32

and of heaven your greatness your

21:34

holiness

21:36

the could some fruits of the north pass

21:39

make an ambush as where they're going come

21:41

the

21:42

in other cases where are you sure like

21:44

be damn sure your head

21:47

yeah pressure

21:49

pretty good is not sure i'm sure send

21:51

them and they come through you

21:53

know on schedule and it's around kingdom

21:56

is saved and as is elevated

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to the second most powerful

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can am the king so this nature

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watching by

22:05

nature i don't just mean the river of

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course the mean the heavens

22:09

a season the little

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the internet

22:15

wars between air you

22:17

know all

22:19

that stuff how it all works

22:22

informed everything that we

22:24

know and in modern science it does that

22:26

also the us were ancient

22:28

scientists and some things

22:30

we know better than they do now we understand

22:32

more and more detail and other

22:34

things they still

22:37

okay let's see this is sort of the

22:39

as above so below idea in

22:41

small things are things if you can

22:44

buy watching any part of the natural world

22:46

from that you can extrapolate everything

22:50

else the this is the apple falling

22:52

now you know and that's just from that you can understand

22:55

how like planets orbit

22:57

around the sun just from this

23:00

form of extrapolation and then also

23:02

what are dicks really interesting added

23:04

is this idea that it's yes the natural

23:06

world doesn't just it's not a way for you to

23:10

arguably other things in natural world

23:13

right because humanity is part of

23:15

the natural world from watching these things

23:17

you could actually formulate how

23:20

human societies bay

23:22

so is this in in in

23:24

the daddy seeing when it's sort of talking

23:26

about that out

23:29

when things start malfunctioning

23:32

what you can expect when things start malfunctioning

23:35

how did lousy come to that from watching

23:38

entropy from watching the way

23:40

what i smelled surgeries catch

23:42

on fire how do you get how

23:44

do you have added eat ah

23:46

how did he reached that conclusion you

23:49

know what i'm happy about like here's like

23:51

when the king a weight wind the

23:53

i you need

23:55

so many various warnings are

23:57

signs when stuff is going wrong

23:59

years you can expect because if

24:01

the mom is didn't he say moment there's emperor

24:04

or a leader the moment there is

24:06

even know if king's things

24:08

have already kind of started sucking up

24:15

are you have given me in iraq and

24:17

different questions and they're all rare

24:19

all good they're all going to let let me

24:21

i didn't the neglected

24:24

my smart capital do think he would i can

24:26

really sink so first

24:28

of all the as above

24:31

so below let's start this you

24:34

you actually touched on kind

24:36

of more accurate

24:39

version

24:41

of that when you said and

24:43

when you mentioned that all things are connected success

24:47

the everything understanding

24:50

predicting repairing rebalancing

24:52

re harmonizing all

24:54

of it the essence of everything is predicated

24:56

on this non dual idea which

24:59

is very on the western honestly

25:02

italy through the time of day card

25:04

and in modern science until quantum

25:07

mechanics and things began to change how

25:09

we we looked at it and we realized

25:11

that the taoists for ryan who first

25:13

super we went on our own thing

25:15

you know for hire couple thousand years anyway

25:20

the

25:22

the idea that it is all

25:24

everything we can conceive of

25:26

and perceive and imagine

25:30

all one thing though

25:33

i belong to

25:35

the little

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called next door i

25:39

get kick outta but it's it's like

25:41

seen or heard from my hood and

25:43

thinner and honestly i don't use

25:45

social media in a new spend less time as

25:48

little instagram that go to some sense but

25:50

honestly that's that's not so much for me so i don't

25:52

go on the thing very much but

25:55

i live the mountains of arizona where there's high

25:57

fire danger and so i

25:59

certain doing that at when we had

26:01

really bad fire here and people were losing their homes

26:03

and had to keep track like

26:06

, could rely on my neighbors he said you know the fires

26:08

in my backyard more than canopy

26:11

canopy , to assert

26:13

fucking that this morning there was a post about

26:16

somebody found spider in their house and

26:18

all these people were talking about how to kill it spray

26:20

it smashes wishes and

26:23

, knows it a harmless by

26:26

rail spiders looks kind of

26:28

imposing that released it eating

26:30

the roaches another think near has an hour

26:33

not worth other than saying

26:35

mining to there's nothing really to do almost

26:38

anything anywhere i wrote little

26:40

line or two about what wonderful opportunity

26:42

to exercise in of awareness

26:44

and compassion and recognize that recognize that spiders

26:47

part of the exact same fabric

26:49

that makes you it's it's

26:51

another finger in a glove animated

26:54

by the same hand that moves

26:56

you all the same

26:58

thing and you know if you kill

27:00

it the damage that fabrics

27:03

and you damage you because

27:06

it's all one thing being

27:09

able to perceive that

27:12

like on an ongoing basis

27:16

call you know in

27:18

vernacular for us when i up

27:22

and and we we don't use a mean there

27:24

are things that are good about the word and lightning

27:26

than things that are really so great about

27:28

it but

27:31

and i always get nervous about it's not as outward

27:33

it's more of a buddhist for it but doesn't other leagues is

27:36

strictly speaking italian but as but as

27:39

it's it's it was applied to

27:41

llamas by some crack germans

27:43

or something i think i can kind of remark

27:46

but but anyway

27:50

i know i'm little by little

27:52

basis trying

27:55

to hold the

27:59

percent the that

28:02

connection between all thanks

28:05

it's kind of at the root yeah

28:08

of thousand because

28:10

once you have that perception you

28:13

can see well

28:15

in advance of what others may

28:18

where imbalances and disharmony

28:21

are going to occur where the

28:23

pendulum has swung

28:25

all the way to a terrible

28:27

place because it was at the

28:29

opposite terrible place and now has

28:31

direct access center and if you

28:33

have this view and this kind of understanding

28:37

then you know when

28:39

know when guy flips you off because

28:41

you didn't know

28:43

leap forward in your five hundred

28:45

horsepower vehicles in the first nanosecond

28:48

that the light turned green and

28:50

made his he's guy in meat as mr

28:52

math and she's waiting

28:55

here he gives you the finger and

28:57

rather than you know lowering

29:00

your window and window and have given him

29:02

given imaginable says or

29:05

not exercising your lips with ever since excuses

29:07

the where he

29:09

he's a sicilian his mind i'm

29:11

looking at an unbalanced minds as part

29:14

something bigger and away

29:16

when he goes by in a rush

29:18

to continue on her way that this

29:21

kind of occupation is

29:23

sort of

29:25

what i hope is an answer to italy some the yeah

29:27

thank you had a great yeah it's wonderful answer

29:29

and i'm the debt

29:32

that

29:35

one of the curious things about

29:38

being in technological society with

29:40

other hyperconnectivity

29:43

that we that is being shown

29:45

through next door's stab

29:48

serb instagram whatever is

29:51

it some our inner personally people don't

29:53

seem to be aware of this at all states

29:55

is your we know like you

29:57

like you the telephone wire

30:00

and you see their car ,

30:02

wires around you and you know you

30:04

all your followers in your likes and your tweet

30:06

you see where so connected and

30:08

yet yet we we

30:11

all have many people it seems like

30:13

have heard as as as sense of sense

30:16

completely disconnected being this

30:19

web that you're talking about and

30:21

if there is sense of connection it certainly isn't benevolent

30:23

sense of connection the more like a

30:25

feeling being a snare her tracks

30:28

angry like locked

30:31

into the damn thing and acceptably stuff

30:35

so how does dow is muslim friends around

30:37

his act that saudi bring you

30:40

to lead me to leave me yet

30:42

again to for which i thank you

30:44

to very choosy subject

30:48

though

30:50

the

30:52

way we cancerous

30:54

manic murder monkeys or treating

30:56

each other and the planet is

30:58

is is not headed for good and

31:02

we we are pushing

31:06

the

31:06

known universe in our our

31:09

our world anywhere planet into

31:11

such an extreme position

31:14

that

31:15

the forces of nature you could

31:17

call it know if you wish you could anthropomorphizes

31:20

isn't safe you know mother earth is gonna

31:22

fight back you know what whatever

31:26

therefore you want use but

31:28

the to control

31:32

the group test over

31:35

growth of human populations

31:39

the require that human lives

31:41

be take that you know the cancer

31:43

be cut out in order for the organisms

31:46

to survive balance and harmony will

31:49

restore whatever we do two

31:53

destroy that balance and harmony will eventually

31:55

be corrected whether we like it or

31:57

not and i promise you are not i like

32:00

so whether it's pandemics a

32:04

, thermonuclear war

32:07

war know other things the earth in

32:09

some form perhaps not

32:11

a very briefly saddened

32:14

and agreed to say not in not

32:16

, form of the bio diverse wonder

32:19

that recall earth now but in

32:21

some version weather's tortoises and cockroaches

32:23

are all with us enough it it it

32:25

will survive us and

32:27

and i'm back to some kind

32:29

of hours and then evolution will start

32:32

a new some some people

32:35

talk about evolution as being another

32:37

word for for for down haha

32:40

i don't see the dabic his death

32:42

in the downplay thing isis

32:44

is not thing anymore than evolution is a

32:46

thing but even

32:49

this forces inexorable and

32:51

we made a lot

32:53

of mistakes and like

32:55

a lot of other species in fact

32:58

affecting free great great species

33:01

and i've ever been on this planet or

33:03

guy they

33:05

were experiments are manifestations

33:08

of evolution that city where

33:10

i have

33:11

why did they not working i don't know

33:13

i'm an asteroid hit

33:15

you know fear tilted a little been they've got

33:18

to cold a what one

33:20

one you know cancer

33:22

thing arose like people and started killing everybody

33:24

else and then sent black it allows

33:27

, done and start off against minutes

33:29

is just the way the whole thing does so

33:31

in a we made our first really huge

33:33

mistake was to leave the

33:36

hunting and gathering lifestyle which is there

33:38

so sort of been missed

33:40

miss described

33:43

her as miss characterized

33:46

as being short buddhists in that scene and

33:48

right and more better

33:51

anthropology says now that we we're

33:54

all living fill eighty without hint hint of the

33:56

season our bones are heading into an entity

33:58

occasional tiger get us

34:00

but not as often as a drunk driver the mack truck

34:02

and it's in europe as did we

34:04

occasionally gets diseases and did we have we have

34:07

was early if you survive area exactly

34:09

like what's going on now you

34:11

know when we went to agriculture with oh

34:14

that don't him this

34:16

is my i'm gonna live up in your yemeni

34:19

use this penurious side of for things

34:21

that can grow forget all the abundance

34:23

of everything that i evolved to need

34:25

from berries and rats says herbs

34:28

and on earth that make me health it's forget

34:30

that going to make this up don't

34:32

shoot come here

34:34

that line in the third is is this is

34:36

mine that's your we started all and

34:38

and then we made other terrible mistakes industrialization

34:42

and now have a virtual

34:44

stuff and the digital world

34:47

all that the

34:49

compound our initial errors

34:51

and either so so the tech you referred

34:53

to what

34:55

does it make everything happened right answer the

34:57

same crappy decisions the same alienation

35:00

the same poor choices

35:02

they're all their as they were performed

35:04

princess and rider that oh okay

35:07

right so it's like technology is like an apocalyptic

35:10

lubricant are stamping is just it's

35:12

not it's it's a is not does

35:14

solving them while we're hoping

35:17

that it would solve i wanted to jump

35:19

back what you're saying about population control

35:21

which is a obviously ,

35:23

very controversial subject

35:26

that if you bring it up the wrong

35:28

way people accuse you of

35:30

being part of the new world order some

35:32

kind of a globalist agenda

35:35

depopulate the planet they talk about the georgia

35:37

guide stones i don't have you're aware of them

35:39

but they're these you know

35:41

someone carved like keep human population

35:43

under this amounts to me

35:45

what's interesting about that conversation

35:47

about the population is what

35:51

you're saying which is who how

35:53

do you want the the population to happen

35:56

do you want tap into chaos or

35:58

do want it to happen through some

36:01

some , way guy human

36:04

way or whatever because no matter what you

36:06

can be certain that when things get it

36:08

out of balance enough the

36:11

population is going happen if

36:13

, know it's it's there's no way around when

36:15

things get just like what you're saying

36:17

when we've got when you get war it's not

36:19

just like get war was followed by

36:21

salmon was followed by disease

36:24

you know whenever things get really wonky

36:27

lots and lots and lots of people die

36:30

and right now it seems like the idea that compassionate

36:33

ideas like let the earth decide who

36:35

to kill viet complete

36:38

ecological collapse because

36:42

, we've nobody wants to charge

36:44

of like saying how many kids you

36:46

can have mean someone did we

36:48

were talking about them earlier earlier

36:50

you know those those easy be

36:53

but so what your thoughts on not

36:55

like you did the

36:57

house dow it it's house dow

36:59

you good

37:02

exist and somehow we

37:04

reanimated amusing ed artificial

37:07

intelligence bought perfectly

37:09

what were the he say that we're supposed

37:11

to do to handle this

37:14

problem of a mass

37:16

is exponentially accelerating

37:18

human population or an imbalance

37:20

since human population and

37:24

resources

37:28

if if i asked them would

37:31

probably look

37:34

at me and say you silly foreigner

37:39

what where do you worry about it's kind of stuff

37:42

and as as you know change

37:46

is a you know it's the only constant

37:49

the question really is

37:53

well the answer i think is too

37:55

the times on a little fork the

37:58

first time it's

38:00

a look could

38:03

you had discussion about technology

38:06

and how all it does is magnify

38:09

or foibles put

38:11

it in more and more and more extreme

38:13

situations

38:16

cause we have not done because of

38:18

that running around with suck the

38:20

neolithic maybe

38:23

even in the paleolithic let's

38:26

say meal the that wrong terms

38:28

of terms of all we have done

38:31

is added an amplifier the

38:34

were mistakes

38:36

and we keep on using the amplifier

38:38

to try to fix those mistakes

38:41

so so the more we have

38:43

discussions about shall we be

38:45

like charlton heston and soylent

38:48

green and if enough people

38:50

and little chooses yeah and line up

38:52

line up to die in little gas chambers

38:55

a because we got the thirty years old whatever

38:57

was soaked so you know

38:59

asking these kinds of questions

39:02

the egg the

39:04

point that

39:08

all that kind of solution

39:10

so called solution is exactly

39:13

what gotta and as

39:15

you just say nature is

39:17

going to do what it's going to do

39:19

and it will always will

39:22

because you know it's just us plus

39:25

you know thousand times more wisdom

39:27

and understanding okay so that's

39:29

one time the other kind of the forties

39:31

that

39:33

what what might be solution

39:35

to this and i was very interested

39:38

actually to hear her doctor

39:40

wyle mention

39:42

in a recent interview with you the

39:46

idea that idea that

39:48

have role in

39:51

what i have been writing and speaking about

39:53

an hour for twenty five years guess which

39:55

is a leave

40:00

an evolutionary leap in

40:02

our consciousness the in

40:04

very rapid i'm afraid

40:07

changes the way we

40:10

see who we are what

40:13

we're

40:14

how we connect to other people how

40:16

we connect to all living things

40:19

and we connect to the entire web

40:21

of sentient beings even if it's on some

40:23

planet and alpha or somewhere but

40:27

if we could have and

40:29

lucy shows that sometimes whether

40:31

it's the evolution of thumb or

40:33

by peter gate the suddenly brings us

40:35

up and now we have eyes and a friend were looking at the

40:37

ballot in way that could shift in

40:39

we were before we're looking at the ground up next

40:41

step there's an apple yeah now

40:43

we're looking at oh look miles away there's

40:45

a lion run rest suffer

40:48

so we have a whole different view things

40:50

that i believe in the possibilities

40:53

of this kind of whether it's epigenetics

40:56

or some other

40:58

intervention of some sort i believe

41:00

the possibility in fact i believe in the necessity

41:04

that we have the lead

41:07

of the kind of understanding that will just

41:09

fundamentally shifts our behavior

41:11

and that leap will not come from the technology

41:14

although it you know it might come from i

41:16

was so it's enough that

41:18

that that i had i don't know not

41:20

an expert in else in the just because i've

41:22

been more of meditator at in this

41:24

life but i do believe

41:26

that this is the only answer

41:28

enough when you have a double

41:30

bind the only way out of it the

41:33

comic the punter you

41:35

know you're stuck either way great but

41:37

if you lift yourself and have perspective

41:39

of seeing actually oh i'm in double

41:42

bind i'm damned if i do and then wrap myself

41:44

and all a sudden you're in a different place to find solutions

41:46

right you mean like the yet you

41:48

mean like the acknowledgement of that

41:50

sort of trapped

41:54

the so maybe

41:56

instead of social media you

41:59

know the is this i have

42:01

this little dog a

42:03

representative i

42:06

was really really sick last fall in

42:09

coma for one when i woke up and

42:11

the the first thing i said to

42:13

my wife but my my bedside as

42:15

you know i want

42:18

i want a ,

42:20

blue serving as an

42:23

incentive to cease sewer

42:25

to me like enough

42:28

if if you're here i picked the ambulance

42:30

brings you the hospital bed they

42:32

revive you been unconscious for was

42:34

convinced heroes and you wake up a lesser for

42:36

theses talk about a hobby do not remember

42:39

that we have four dollars would you like to open can

42:41

of as as yes i know

42:43

it's a terrible idea i was

42:45

a caribou serious and and

42:47

you know if she's see lifted up on differences

42:50

as you know that's an irish dog isn't in have them

42:52

here

42:53

and i said work on the a casey website

42:55

is as they were lost theirs her she finds

42:57

one like there's one in the united

42:59

states the litter of while and

43:02

five already sold and there's one eye

43:04

and of fitness thoughts and i got this thing

43:06

for this little dogs

43:08

you know it's the away rationally like my

43:10

other for dogs to a little rat thought yeah

43:13

and know you know i like

43:15

but i put them up i put pictures of this

43:17

one little wrap this this one that i thought

43:19

of in my super i put

43:21

up on social media might deter digression

43:23

the simply about instead of using

43:27

the media for that i

43:29

just admit that i put up like five or six

43:31

piazza thought we

43:34

we have fish have ship them what

43:37

we doing with with that they

43:40

all we're doing is so there are a

43:42

lot worse for most trivial of

43:44

us

43:46

i'm not suggesting that loving your dog is

43:48

trivial loving my dog makes

43:50

my life lot better and it

43:52

is path to loving nature probably

43:55

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43:57

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it's just a buoy night in

46:57

the hands of to eat right right

46:59

yeah and it's in yeah into is that

47:01

it's bowie knife that is spike in

47:03

the end a two year old that is transforming

47:08

in from a bowie knife into a

47:10

gun and so an assault rifle

47:12

and is a nuclear weapons and it's it's

47:14

growing in front of his it's in this is

47:16

i just saw this think musk

47:18

says tweeted retweeted someone

47:20

saying that sixty six percent

47:23

of interaction

47:25

with social media is bots

47:28

it's not even humans like

47:30

it's artificial intelligence bots

47:32

that are just swarming in

47:34

in in in in putting their

47:37

ah whatever their various

47:39

agendas are into human culture

47:42

in to me that's where it's like i

47:44

like that you think

47:48

that there's some the

47:51

illusion are there's a possibility an idea

47:53

i love that you mention this these

47:55

things that do happen for sure

47:57

to creatures all the sudden you've got an eye

48:00

i'm a fan you can see what used to be just

48:02

whatever

48:03

non visionary existence

48:06

or a fish was now you're starting see a coral

48:08

reefs now you're staring at it transforms

48:10

things and i imagine that transformation

48:12

is very quick so that

48:15

, me there says that it's nice to your you

48:18

you that may be psychedelic ah

48:21

could be one of the things that cause that

48:23

things that which within a clear that

48:25

transformation but i'm the

48:28

lord i just don't the

48:31

don't buy it i just feel like

48:33

i've been around enough mega maniacal psycho

48:36

not people have been taking

48:38

these substances were there like a this

48:40

will dissolve your ego ssh

48:42

the air they're like ego is only amplified

48:46

, a trillion from from whatever the

48:48

thing is you know that to

48:50

the point where it's like don't i used to think

48:52

that used believe that when people talk about the

48:54

hippies putting acid in water supply and

48:56

like well why not not

48:58

a shot but now i'm afraid i

49:00

don't i don't know that that that would work ah

49:03

necessarily work know that's one of them were

49:05

other

49:06

yeah i'm not as they go to your practitioner

49:08

of any of that i if i only mention

49:11

it more because that

49:13

because i believe in psychedelic selling their

49:15

powers but if and you know

49:17

that that was says doctor wells think but

49:20

but more because i

49:23

like to hear people talking

49:25

about the necessity for that

49:27

particular kind of shifting consciousness

49:30

as a solution and maybe

49:32

the only solution to where

49:34

we are you , massive

49:37

global rebalancing fact

49:39

that could happen and

49:41

you know i think i have this

49:44

why why did i become a taoist monkeys

49:46

yeah why am i just

49:49

like well i just released

49:51

a memoir we can talk more about it but

49:53

in our faces my childhood

49:55

from in over a privileged

49:58

family and in manhattan

50:00

he noted to to making all

50:02

these choices that led me they become

50:05

a lame markedly town

50:07

for can't go back to the monastery in that

50:09

span of and and

50:12

maybe there's a little seed of seeker

50:15

in me and and other people at

50:17

the some portion the population that to understand

50:19

that stuff if you may be one of those

50:21

people and and so you know you

50:23

just look aghast at so

50:26

many things

50:27

that happen and if if you

50:29

have a practice like taoism

50:32

which is you know i i think pick your poison

50:34

you know that's the one that appealed

50:36

to me and but you know but

50:39

if you have have than what you can do

50:42

is you can use the practice

50:44

to enhance

50:47

strengthen

50:49

number one your ability

50:51

to stand against weapons of mass

50:53

distraction intern manipulating

50:55

you whether they are media

50:57

or corporate interests are all that stuff that

50:59

affects how you see the world what you

51:02

buy our how you spend your time

51:04

your can fight back against

51:06

that not that not know with

51:08

with a our fifteenth but fight

51:11

back against it with awareness

51:13

that oh you know what i actually don't

51:15

really believe that and

51:18

i don't really want to be manipulated

51:20

am writing and and i would like to

51:22

look for some higher better ways

51:24

to live a better ideas than

51:26

the ones that or represent

51:29

american anti culture right a

51:31

while and yeah imperial the

51:34

place so so i think in

51:36

other the role of practice

51:39

that's important without it i'm not really

51:41

sure

51:43

what would read know i choose to

51:46

read as opposed watch enough streaming

51:48

or television at ,

51:50

i choose to read because it gives

51:52

me a high always

51:55

practices whether they're meditation or

51:58

you know uptight she is she going which going enjoy

52:01

you know this this

52:04

give me space the

52:08

which i

52:10

can make decisions the

52:12

to change is one thing we

52:14

agree i think that in it's inevitable

52:16

gonna happen doesn't matter whether

52:18

right

52:19

not not relevant because it's not

52:21

about us nothing is a nice

52:24

but that's the post sentries it's

52:26

not about you is like the least

52:28

popular things my my publishers

52:30

always scream at me for wanted to write

52:32

a book about it is all about you because the deserting

52:34

says he got to work yourself first about

52:37

lot of as it's in our for were

52:39

already to masturbatory

52:41

of your psu self adults doesn't entitle

52:43

them narcissistic that with we don't need

52:45

anymore books about it or how to introduce

52:47

yourself to rolls royce and been right now

52:50

that it's not about you

52:53

at all and that message by

52:55

itself seems to be so

52:57

uncountable so many people

52:59

you know that i

53:00

the get ugly male sometimes oh

53:02

people don't want year that

53:06

yeah so safe without

53:08

the practice there is no space to

53:10

interpret and handle

53:12

those incoming things and find

53:15

you know my way of looking at your life

53:19

so that's why i'm i'm such a lazy

53:21

best i would you don't see met with

53:23

lot of real ah soon i

53:25

would lie around and watch watch your movies

53:27

in odds are descended from for movies all

53:30

day long play with my dog hard

53:32

enough has since he

53:34

was somewhere look at i'm such

53:36

a lazy bastard the only reason that i'm

53:39

persistent in all these things to

53:41

to some her

53:43

to achieve something with them is

53:45

because the other

53:47

choice

53:48

not acceptable really lying around it's not

53:50

as widely very cuddly so

53:53

i do these things because things must

53:55

what are the same what same what the things

53:57

what does there was practice well it's like the

54:00

those those

54:03

similar things i mentioned her as

54:05

a do lot of doubt meditation i when

54:08

i've been very sick i have been able to stand for

54:10

long periods of time like used to but

54:13

how to get back to that place each

54:15

you there are there are some guy as

54:18

she say guys there's some people in

54:21

a china that my my own

54:23

master

54:24

seems to think that they're still you

54:26

somebody is like true if

54:28

you know hiding in forest somewhere

54:30

yeah and or china's a really big really big

54:32

country but know that that they spend

54:36

six hours for ten am the

54:40

everyday standing with their arms

54:42

like this again the truth motionless

54:45

developing their ci yes six

54:48

out of his me tell

54:50

you i'm i've been through appeared in my life for

54:52

the three hours a day and and

54:54

i cannot imagine you might see why

54:57

he can do three you could be six mean

54:59

three our last summer three hours with your

55:01

arms in

55:03

fact my i retired i put him down will ah

55:05

could still standing there to the backups

55:07

but but know that that was sort

55:09

my michael sam can i can we what is that

55:12

what is our to

55:14

, as you're doing now what

55:16

what can you did what happens i

55:19

have never in my life heard of that form

55:21

meditation before but it makes you want

55:23

go run around of closes

55:25

tree in try that

55:29

so first of all assets

55:32

that fosters very there are several

55:34

different classes they're not all they're tree hugging

55:37

as one where you fold your hands over your navel

55:40

another were your hands by your size for

55:42

her with your middle fingers going to it

55:45

acupuncture meridian that this thirdly

55:47

three different parties and probably more but

55:50

the standing part

55:53

as opposed to sitting

55:55

or lying the reasons

55:57

which are also legit because

56:00

not everybody is strong enough i am no longer

56:02

strong enough or in i got sick

56:04

so yeah i can't do that and work and

56:06

i'm i'm trying to work my way back to it don't know that

56:08

i'll ever be able to do three hours yes that's

56:10

what why stand say

56:13

in the first place of you know if

56:15

we have this it

56:17

it comes from chinese medicine although chinese

56:19

medicine itself as is very dallas

56:21

thing so we we didn't want to

56:23

get into the chicken or egg thing will be here all day and

56:26

but let's just say that the chinese medicine

56:28

is an expression of this idea that there's a there's

56:30

something called the greater heavenly circle your energy

56:33

circles up your back and down your front

56:35

of yeah and you know all our practices

56:37

engage this some engaged

56:39

only your torso your torso it's called the lesser

56:42

heavenly circle goes from let's say you're

56:44

growing to the top of your head and

56:48

the top of your head there's point five

56:50

way which is near

56:53

young point it's the crown of your head

56:55

and head had the idea that this sunday

56:58

after you know it enough of this

57:02

the will open connection to heaven

57:04

to pure young actually

57:06

temple and which i was bored or day and a

57:08

month and then or a priest is

57:12

the name for for the as idea of

57:14

pure yards cause period emerald

57:17

that's kind of like celestial haven't

57:19

you know everything awaken

57:22

yes but ,

57:25

if you members as circle there's

57:27

that young go to heaven but there's also

57:29

this idea of connecting with the earth two

57:31

points two feet to sydney actually

57:34

puts point one kidney one the

57:36

young trans folk her and see you

57:38

if you're suspended between heaven and earth

57:40

because that man's place the

57:42

idea being suspended between

57:45

heaven and earth does put people

57:48

and our consciousness and in a little bit different

57:50

place sometimes honestly

57:52

earth orbit with that and with a meditation

57:54

thing is just to increase the

57:57

strength of circulation of that

58:00

circle connect you more with heaven

58:02

and earth make you physically and

58:04

energetically stronger and and

58:06

those book those hum amazing

58:09

people i started say lunatics but

58:11

caught myself those amazing people

58:14

who i so greatly admire and admire and

58:16

be when grow up and cook who can

58:18

in san like that for six

58:20

hours what they do the

58:23

do having

58:26

achieved that ability like

58:28

that made themselves so awakened

58:30

so strong the

58:33

the heal the go

58:35

off he'll people they

58:38

are healers and that's their work to

58:41

do the tanning to become powerful enough to hear

58:43

wow because you know the first

58:45

treasure of taoism his compassion wow

58:50

can you imagine if we had a world of

58:52

people who thought like that that

58:55

of

58:57

that a tactical moves that also the prom

58:59

regard to go blue plaid cymru

59:02

that one amount most hilarious

59:04

terms maybe this

59:06

all humans as burped out

59:09

in our history

59:11

nuke to the killer

59:14

says is that we know them satan you

59:16

might not believe in god but you know that that's

59:18

meeting were like satan appears as like

59:20

little else it's a tactical nukes

59:23

or didn't do precision nuclear weapons it's

59:25

gonna be a mild like party

59:27

nuke it's just you

59:29

know what know what a precision nuclear

59:32

weapons a precision nuclear weapon

59:35

the

59:36

a medical technique it kills

59:38

the cancer without killing the rest

59:40

of you that , should be big

59:42

the beginning and the end of any kind of now

59:45

that now supply will accept is

59:47

accept tactical new yes the rest

59:50

of cleanest never whoever said

59:52

that remember when the with warmonger started

59:54

throwing that out there to try to lose in a zapper

59:56

still little uptight when comes to nuclear

59:58

weapons humanity days

1:00:00

relax little bed giving

1:00:03

you the ai but what is going

1:00:05

on where you are so why

1:00:07

would he would decide what's going on with you

1:00:09

physiologically what is your sickness whether

1:00:11

what is happening

1:00:13

oh yeah so

1:00:16

about their have you know

1:00:19

some people say well you know if

1:00:21

he do all these prices need to get sick

1:00:24

like the

1:00:27

the be

1:00:29

very well for your friends who says that

1:00:31

and it well some people do and

1:00:33

then the answer is simple

1:00:35

enough without the practices

1:00:38

i wouldn't get sick

1:00:39

i would get there is a

1:00:42

listen listen this disease

1:00:44

the third practicing get sick

1:00:46

don't practice and get says when percent

1:00:49

when heard that i was

1:00:51

going to be interviewing someone who

1:00:54

is sick

1:00:56

as we dying and also i'd

1:00:58

go of it today i'd

1:01:00

only and not expect

1:01:03

see someone who seems to be

1:01:06

far house here since here since

1:01:08

am is a dad your glowing

1:01:11

you seem you know and and that's not

1:01:13

that's not blowing smoke and you that

1:01:15

my teachers about uses actually

1:01:18

me that a been telling someone that they're like

1:01:20

looking great when they're dying

1:01:22

is actually kind of about most rotten than

1:01:24

you could do but you do you seem far

1:01:26

you what's going on with you are

1:01:28

you are you yeah it's do you have

1:01:31

is a cancer is it

1:01:33

so a half years ago i moved

1:01:36

here to arizona from

1:01:38

south florida the i had

1:01:40

lived for many years they had

1:01:42

initially moved there from my wife's job

1:01:45

and she's really she's

1:01:47

she had moved her years before that

1:01:50

hollywood for me when was a screenwriter

1:01:52

and and in like couldn't do

1:01:54

that anywhere else have you know

1:01:56

she moved there and and we lived in the

1:01:59

california what i returned the favor

1:02:01

of and week we we moved

1:02:04

to florida for her corporate thing

1:02:06

which turned out to be really really

1:02:08

a wonderful career for her and

1:02:10

, was happy to do in as it turned out i i

1:02:12

met my primary master and like it

1:02:15

was really wonderful quarter century

1:02:17

there and i developed quite large

1:02:19

school you know what one one of the largest

1:02:21

yes haiti schools in the country and in

1:02:24

a really i succeeded there

1:02:26

and grew there and very grateful

1:02:28

for that time but that also saw

1:02:30

you know so far to came became kind of hot

1:02:32

new york

1:02:34

and don't know you know like i had a house

1:02:36

on beach i was fortunate to have house on

1:02:38

the beach but i'm you know the ocean

1:02:40

was in our living room from time to time when

1:02:42

a big lunar storm came and i

1:02:44

thought you know his my single largest investment

1:02:46

i'll leave it to my son of by the way

1:02:48

as an evolutionary biologist and will probably

1:02:50

be rolling his eyes in my characterization

1:02:53

of lucy , yet

1:02:56

he just graduated from yale in separate wow

1:02:59

anyway yeah and he's is

1:03:01

really easy he said he could

1:03:03

sing his could sing already

1:03:05

and i and i hope he continued to do so and more

1:03:07

and them

1:03:09

anyway so i didn't want to leave

1:03:11

him scuba diving adventure so he knows

1:03:13

cast anyway i'm not angry

1:03:16

when we moved out here arizona

1:03:18

has spent some time looking around looking wanted

1:03:20

to live in asia which asia always wanted do that and

1:03:23

other many things politically

1:03:25

and my wife didn't want do that with the kid was still a

1:03:27

coma say we got dick

1:03:29

said arizona and within

1:03:31

first year of moving here i can track that

1:03:33

something called valley fever which

1:03:36

is a fungal disease is a little

1:03:38

funded said listen soil

1:03:40

many many many people hundreds

1:03:43

of thousands of people get yes

1:03:45

and it's typically

1:03:47

either you don't know you got it in your immune

1:03:50

system kicks it out or you feel

1:03:52

like you're sick for week and have cold never

1:03:54

heard it it enters

1:03:56

in the lungs it's

1:03:58

cox yorker

1:04:01

video a nice is the fungus anyway

1:04:04

some people you know get some nodules

1:04:06

in lungs and then it's diagnosed with

1:04:08

the have it's effects race which is would

1:04:10

happen me

1:04:14

some people the the fungus disseminates

1:04:17

that the bodies who could go to other places

1:04:20

typical places to stay in a creates lesions

1:04:22

their medications for it in class

1:04:25

of medication but

1:04:28

the kind of

1:04:29

the most cases he take the

1:04:31

medication them and that's it you're

1:04:34

you it doesn't necessarily totally

1:04:36

kill the fungus but it and it puts his

1:04:38

sleep like being some cancers remission

1:04:40

right thing but you know you don't really get

1:04:42

it again in , develop antibodies

1:04:44

to and and and that's

1:04:47

that's so that's in

1:04:49

my case unfortunately i'm

1:04:51

, the tiny

1:04:54

tiny tiny thankfully

1:04:57

the number of people who had

1:04:59

misfortune for the fungus to reach my

1:05:01

brain ah then

1:05:04

it went over me and had problems

1:05:06

in my heart from of my kidneys and

1:05:08

, prostate my

1:05:11

the lungs

1:05:14

it it it really took me over and

1:05:16

i don't have weak immune system but

1:05:18

set perhaps genetically not really

1:05:20

clear why but it really

1:05:23

when it ended up my brain that unfortunately

1:05:25

is not curable

1:05:27

that's a fatal condition so i

1:05:29

took the drugs that you know we're supposed slow

1:05:31

down it's progress and you know

1:05:34

like answer

1:05:36

chemo

1:05:38

or used for this it's not

1:05:43

and pleasant experience to try to prolong

1:05:45

your life they came as rain

1:05:48

and of if they reduce your quality of life greatly

1:05:51

i had trouble tolerating them spirited

1:05:54

details but let's say very rough yeah

1:05:56

so there

1:05:59

there's an expert the medication

1:06:02

which was developed by company

1:06:04

in england hey

1:06:08

medical entrepreneurs saw that climate

1:06:10

change in this is connects to everything

1:06:12

talking about climate change

1:06:15

has caused the tropical

1:06:18

politics fungi better

1:06:21

to be found in the

1:06:22

south east asia south america

1:06:25

africa in other said humidity

1:06:27

and changing temperature has a lot of these fungi

1:06:30

growing and infecting more

1:06:32

and more people and many people die undiagnosed

1:06:34

around the world from these things and

1:06:37

this this group said you know in the short

1:06:39

and maybe not in the short term but at least

1:06:41

in the medium term this is going

1:06:43

to become a global health problems and

1:06:46

we want to develop drug

1:06:47

that works against a wide range of

1:06:49

these fungi and you know

1:06:51

them will become trillionaire become trillionaire

1:06:54

lot of

1:06:55

so in i i got on a clinical

1:06:58

trial of this drug

1:07:00

which is i will say much easier

1:07:02

to tolerate the previous

1:07:04

medications whether or

1:07:06

not it is a cure

1:07:09

you to say whether it doesn't just

1:07:11

stop the fungus from fucking

1:07:14

but

1:07:16

the fungus dead or yeah that

1:07:18

that is as yet

1:07:20

unknown because it's too dry and

1:07:23

them yeah i was

1:07:25

feeling lot better in as the dockers running

1:07:27

this thing as a you can i stop

1:07:29

now because like as a pretty good says

1:07:31

you could i would be very helpful

1:07:33

for us and the studies to know if

1:07:35

he said because an autopsy been

1:07:37

a house fire with it you know

1:07:39

whether your body looks like farmer's market

1:07:41

enough ah see i said okay

1:07:44

or i thank you very much for that iraq let's

1:07:46

go and he is he has a great sense

1:07:48

of humor needs to the greatest guy save

1:07:50

my life of yes but

1:07:52

but you know he was given me the sign that

1:07:54

like insects say on this right

1:07:57

until we're really sure that it's

1:07:59

a cure so he noted that's where i'm in i

1:08:01

did i went to my son's graduation i get

1:08:03

covered up in connecticut we

1:08:06

had for for vaccines and

1:08:08

in iowa they gave me the antiviral stuff

1:08:11

the don't know can

1:08:14

i can say is i'm very lucky the

1:08:17

compared to what i've been through the

1:08:20

last two years my life this

1:08:22

is snow

1:08:23

and it's not it's not a sore

1:08:26

for lot of right servers serious

1:08:28

and i was it you know i just

1:08:30

lucked out yeah you get his lived out

1:08:32

in islam and towards needed lot got emphysema

1:08:34

charging three thing it's said see

1:08:36

it's your it's it's you know your glowing

1:08:38

always there are you know this before and other people

1:08:41

they glow you've got this your ,

1:08:43

it's not just her i mean i don't

1:08:45

know what it is you a midas amd some podcast

1:08:48

brett yeah no i did i

1:08:50

i i first

1:08:53

of all i know me to just jump back to this but it's

1:08:55

anyone online or anyone has

1:08:57

said that bullshit you about your pressure

1:09:00

the or spiritual practice is

1:09:03

not benefit rate because years

1:09:05

you're getting sick you're fit

1:09:07

what they seek were immortal every

1:09:09

it happens to everybody there's no way there's no

1:09:11

way out of it not sure that's bullshit

1:09:14

but i didn't number two i'm

1:09:16

so happy to hear this experimental of

1:09:19

medication is working

1:09:22

so you know it's is our thing like a buddhist

1:09:24

thing not get too attached right

1:09:26

and it's it's difficult when it's your life

1:09:29

of yeah because know you know

1:09:31

you have like i wanna be that i'm a fast

1:09:34

keep me alive i'm i'm loving the attachments

1:09:36

but you know if he could stop working

1:09:38

could turn out to he'll

1:09:40

me and some of it's destroy my liver and a

1:09:42

year i mean you know anything it's an expat we've only

1:09:44

been talking for an hour i'm attached to you

1:09:46

this has gotta work that ,

1:09:48

here's the a mile

1:09:50

you want to talk about talk week for actors

1:09:56

we can lose you that stick around mean

1:09:58

especially now that you've the

1:10:00

i can't even imagine what

1:10:02

that's like sitting at your son's

1:10:04

graduation yale in

1:10:07

no way i was very we've been i

1:10:09

was very weak i'll tell you did

1:10:11

you know they are super we do have

1:10:13

do have longer to talk we've already talked for an

1:10:15

hour seems like a went by and second i'll

1:10:18

talk as long as you wish i'm enjoying this

1:10:20

dog this

1:10:23

is my bag wow wow this

1:10:25

is me as a beautiful

1:10:27

dog

1:10:29

mimi event to go for haircut mimi

1:10:32

her name is your whammy after character in

1:10:34

novel i wrote and

1:10:37

but mimi as easier so we just

1:10:39

call daddy's

1:10:42

baby the know that

1:10:45

everybody knows and i get liar ridiculed

1:10:47

for i'd for i'd i'd and that to me

1:10:50

do it's

1:10:52

well guys in a few i i i

1:10:54

want to talk more about the dog but i've got dallas

1:10:57

questions i want ask and yeah you're

1:10:59

just how google that breed of dog but

1:11:01

i i i gotta

1:11:03

know i know

1:11:07

your master says that he's beings living in the

1:11:09

forest hugging the trees for six

1:11:11

hours or i

1:11:14

and also get this conceptual

1:11:16

is that the allow sue ah

1:11:19

amalgam

1:11:20

he's always fascinated me because

1:11:24

just and oil exactly what your masters

1:11:27

at any , you know they

1:11:29

say the same thing about the sadrists you know that

1:11:31

what's there wasn't factor as to taggers

1:11:33

represented some

1:11:35

unknown community of people wow

1:11:37

sue represents ah

1:11:40

some unknown community of people and especially

1:11:43

with taoism in

1:11:45

particular as opposed to some of the other religions

1:11:47

that are familiar with centralized religions

1:11:49

you have this the

1:11:52

concept of the anonymous sage

1:11:55

who is

1:11:56

basically like moving the years

1:11:59

of society and

1:12:01

in when i i'm

1:12:03

becoming the fondant

1:12:06

from over indulgence

1:12:08

in the news or whatever i'm freaking

1:12:10

myself out by watching i santa

1:12:13

size that those

1:12:15

beings are active

1:12:18

and are influencing things

1:12:21

in the most compassionate way possible

1:12:23

that they still was during the years of people

1:12:25

that they're still out ,

1:12:28

and they're still doing their job it's nothing's

1:12:31

nothing's changed at all all

1:12:33

a big lead up to probably annoying

1:12:36

question have you ever encountered

1:12:38

one of them have you ever encountered

1:12:41

one of these people one of the invisible

1:12:43

whatever you want to call on the masters

1:12:45

skirt z called that had names for

1:12:47

them if you ever rub

1:12:50

shoulders with them or rub shoulders with anyone

1:12:52

who claims to have met one of them

1:12:58

though you , as

1:13:00

usual your quest is is

1:13:03

up as up

1:13:05

, suffered with as that's what

1:13:07

makes you get into pure silk select

1:13:10

a

1:13:12

i'm going to sidestep it for moment i'll

1:13:14

come back to i'm going sidestep

1:13:16

a for moment and remind you of them of them multiverse

1:13:20

so so i think

1:13:22

it's

1:13:25

recall doing with our beliefs

1:13:27

although you know

1:13:30

archetypal

1:13:33

traditional really strict our

1:13:35

beliefs and by the weather's i

1:13:37

mentioned the this was a complex and porous

1:13:40

nominal recalled thousand so i'm neighbors

1:13:42

say

1:13:44

ever ever that i'm an expert

1:13:46

in all the time i think that near are

1:13:48

there are chinese texts i cannot read

1:13:51

because my comprehension is too low of

1:13:53

that there things that not translate the not available

1:13:55

he can't trust the trailer blah blah blah that

1:13:58

there's just a zillion things from fast

1:14:00

the music culture so i can't make

1:14:02

an absolute statements but i would

1:14:04

say that the idea of multi vs

1:14:07

is congruent with lot of things that

1:14:09

i understand about hours and then that the idea

1:14:11

that there are levels of things

1:14:13

and please remember this is something middle

1:14:15

man lot of people really talk

1:14:18

about when they talk about thousand because they talk

1:14:20

about a know the tasty to the little

1:14:22

he in yeah yeah symbol being on

1:14:24

the back of a you

1:14:26

know surfers yeah

1:14:28

yoda pick up something on the

1:14:30

way yeah yeahs i have one tattooed right but my

1:14:32

i'll

1:14:35

the bbc that and

1:14:37

also star wars which is you know lucas

1:14:39

was fabienne with the interplay between

1:14:42

thousand the confucianism that provided all

1:14:44

at risk for that know that whole

1:14:46

stuff so so that what people

1:14:48

don't talk about so much the

1:14:51

fact that you know there are shamanistic

1:14:53

practice all around

1:14:55

the world you know this is an

1:14:57

ancillary is and in some have

1:15:00

flurry way connected to the to question

1:15:02

of of the hallucinogenic that

1:15:05

that many of them but not all them years

1:15:08

with and these people do their practices

1:15:10

whether they're chanting are dancing

1:15:12

or

1:15:14

smoking something and are eating

1:15:16

something and what they all come up

1:15:18

with the air the

1:15:20

certain the same the

1:15:24

even though they're spread all around

1:15:26

the world

1:15:28

and arguments have been made that while they all

1:15:30

started from some sharman

1:15:32

pro so shamanistic ancestors

1:15:34

and so that you know this that these visions

1:15:36

are all from the same maps mother

1:15:38

mary sharman up in artworks

1:15:42

one hundred thousand years ago i

1:15:44

don't know about that but when can say is it whether it's in

1:15:46

mongolia old mongolia bases in are you

1:15:48

take take and what you see remarkably

1:15:52

the same and that is an open in some

1:15:54

way i'm for i'm gonna rough this fucker

1:15:56

of the i'm not an amazonian shop

1:16:00

you could think of like a bunch of frisbees

1:16:03

connected by a big pencil goes

1:16:05

right through middle of and they're only different

1:16:07

levels and you know if you

1:16:09

are i'm if

1:16:11

you go to the medicine man the sharman chumminess

1:16:15

the to look at it really got bad belly

1:16:18

the kid in nothing seems to help

1:16:21

and then you know that the sherman and france's

1:16:23

it goes up you know for five

1:16:25

frisbees and their it finds you

1:16:27

know the tiger annoying on duncan spelled

1:16:29

yeah says listen and

1:16:33

i i , humbly

1:16:36

request mighty tiger

1:16:39

the

1:16:39

only me for asking that could could

1:16:41

you not to can give you this

1:16:45

the

1:16:45

iran iraq and

1:16:48

princess is an average you please

1:16:51

not knowing i'm not good balance for the

1:16:53

know the tax breaks the rise of dollars

1:16:55

to from you and was his of was the the farts

1:16:57

and comeback the real world and

1:16:59

repayment go right but don't believe

1:17:02

for dunk yeah so

1:17:04

this this of

1:17:06

that kind of universality

1:17:09

to

1:17:10

perceptions of reality upon

1:17:13

deep meditation or

1:17:16

mind altering substances is

1:17:18

a lot more crimes ruined

1:17:21

globally and people really talk

1:17:23

much about and a lot of time and know

1:17:26

terrorism is a very has very strong

1:17:28

tell her

1:17:30

right now is him as very strong

1:17:32

shamanistic roots since

1:17:35

was trying yeah doing

1:17:38

so

1:17:39

what you see what you experience

1:17:42

whether it's in an

1:17:44

altered state whether you're in meditation

1:17:46

or whether home

1:17:51

in the thing is prosaic

1:17:53

is a cheap walkie practice in

1:17:55

the forest where

1:17:57

you repetitive leaks by

1:18:00

that movement create a state

1:18:02

of mind which quiet

1:18:04

impulses and leafs have space

1:18:06

for you to see things better

1:18:10

i believe that many many people

1:18:12

have access

1:18:14

little bits and pieces of these other

1:18:16

it matter versus are these

1:18:18

spirit guides or whatever people like

1:18:20

to call not i'm as

1:18:23

, can say that the best best

1:18:26

experience i've had in

1:18:28

that regard and i'm that regard gonna

1:18:31

mention your zillion little

1:18:33

things came and went during so many

1:18:35

decades of meditation now and

1:18:37

thousands of hours rather

1:18:40

then in that recent illness september

1:18:44

my wife and me and

1:18:46

on floor and gone it's called and

1:18:48

one one and they got there fast enough to save

1:18:50

me revive me i can't tell

1:18:52

you i know what they did but did would presume

1:18:57

extreme things to bring me back know

1:19:01

when i arrive the

1:19:04

are i was conscious in

1:19:08

there is a doctor i remember

1:19:10

his face very well as jewish guy

1:19:12

was wearing a , a kipper

1:19:15

and my yarmulke any a thick

1:19:17

glasses and he was wearing a mask and in

1:19:19

i i looked up up

1:19:21

i says to him you know in

1:19:24

yiddish in said you know

1:19:27

so you like so how am i

1:19:29

it out and he said dad not

1:19:32

gonna lie that good

1:19:34

yeah and i'm

1:19:36

gonna do and gonna do it i can but the

1:19:39

your kidneys of shut down and you

1:19:42

know allow your organs are not

1:19:45

working and i

1:19:47

don't know but i'm gonna try and

1:19:50

i say thank you the do

1:19:53

the i want tell you something i

1:19:56

spent most the summer wishing to

1:19:58

be dead the had so

1:20:01

much suffering

1:20:02

and i've been through so much that i'm really and

1:20:05

i'm a monk and i i spend

1:20:07

a lifetime a consideration

1:20:09

of such things then

1:20:11

i i'm not strongly resistant

1:20:13

to die kind

1:20:15

of

1:20:16

fifty fifty reddit has mountain and

1:20:18

i have been for a while so

1:20:21

we do your best but if

1:20:23

you don't succeed please don't

1:20:26

let me be one of those patients

1:20:28

that makes you that

1:20:31

wake you up

1:20:32

and i in middle of an icon damn you know i lost

1:20:34

that guy i said because it's

1:20:38

okay it's okay to

1:20:40

your best but please know

1:20:42

that i am perfectly

1:20:44

fine with whatever have

1:20:47

and he thanked me for saying that most today

1:20:49

and , have one you know other small

1:20:51

request and felt myself fading

1:20:53

in in i'm pretty sure that my that

1:20:56

followed the ambulance just knowing

1:20:58

caches and that she's gonna burst

1:21:00

in here any minute and if i'm dying

1:21:03

i'm don't want her to hear me screaming

1:21:05

and die

1:21:07

who could you make sure that that in i don't want to

1:21:09

die in agony make sure that that

1:21:12

doesn't happen

1:21:14

you know held my hand is that i got you bro

1:21:17

another thing thing and then i

1:21:19

was after three days when i was when

1:21:21

i was gone in this is the answer to

1:21:23

question

1:21:26

i i was taken the

1:21:29

journey i

1:21:32

went on a curated

1:21:39

it wasn't the journey was not

1:21:41

about the curator

1:21:44

the journey with about what the curator wanted

1:21:46

to show they use

1:21:48

the word trader service to sidestep

1:21:51

saying it with louder gotta

1:21:53

yeah god abraham or abraham or are

1:21:56

you know whether i never saw

1:21:59

who are this was i didn't have

1:22:01

a visual right i just had a presence

1:22:04

and the clear

1:22:06

we're one thousand percent conviction

1:22:09

that i was being shown specific

1:22:12

things

1:22:17

that and

1:22:19

he wanted me to see

1:22:22

like if you go to a museum got a new york

1:22:25

and you get in on says it to the met

1:22:27

a say in our and sunken from as

1:22:29

like special tour

1:22:31

oh yeah , like

1:22:33

to do do curator

1:22:35

for you and and he takes you for a couple hours

1:22:37

to the museum and issues using of the greatest

1:22:39

things as yeah so have to say yes so

1:22:41

that was curated tour and

1:22:43

i and i was way bigger subject

1:22:46

we have time for of it's time for a lot

1:22:48

of things

1:22:50

which challenge my

1:22:52

idea of non duality and and

1:22:55

they , it but they also it

1:22:57

wasn't exactly what i thought you know saw

1:22:59

the big bang i soon through

1:23:01

the galaxy it all has stars as

1:23:03

that on but this went on for think

1:23:05

wow days it wasn't

1:23:08

thirty second blip or three

1:23:10

second they went on for

1:23:12

days and at the end of

1:23:14

it i saw what

1:23:18

is to come or

1:23:20

us the human me what

1:23:22

is it was shown this and i believe

1:23:24

what was shown and as

1:23:26

much as i believe that here that's

1:23:29

my head yes the

1:23:33

and i resisted tell you

1:23:36

the i was in awe of all of

1:23:38

it in there was no conversation because there

1:23:41

was no space or appropriateness

1:23:44

for conversation i just shut

1:23:46

up and watched what's

1:23:48

that curator i'm just using that word

1:23:50

again of about was showing

1:23:52

me when came

1:23:54

to that

1:23:56

right so we're going become what could happen

1:23:58

to us i react it very

1:24:00

bad

1:24:02

what didn't like him and

1:24:05

, and i got you know a

1:24:07

little bit of a tough love kind

1:24:09

of slap on the wrist from

1:24:11

the curator which is the only time

1:24:14

the curator spoke come

1:24:17

i heard his voice her voice whenever

1:24:22

and message was sorry

1:24:24

you don't like it the

1:24:26

lot about you oh

1:24:28

matter with the doesn't matter whether you like

1:24:31

hey and and

1:24:33

think

1:24:35

rep point my pushing back

1:24:38

is what caused me to wake up

1:24:41

of course i was being given all kinds of things you know

1:24:45

or , hospitalists to wake

1:24:47

me but from my point view

1:24:49

you know they've doing that along and i didn't wake

1:24:51

up up you know i thrashed

1:24:53

around thrashed you

1:24:55

know i guess i was told that

1:24:57

i was very discomfited might have

1:24:59

been excited in on them but

1:25:04

when was shown that pushed back and now

1:25:06

of course i've had last time to think

1:25:08

about this and

1:25:15

i think i would i was i was wrong the

1:25:18

pushback because if hadn't pushed back

1:25:20

maybe i would gotten more learn more

1:25:22

seymour

1:25:24

you know i regret that reaction

1:25:26

now let's wait i'm sorry woods can

1:25:28

you talk about what you are shown what did you

1:25:30

see

1:25:33

we don't want make a negative podcast of

1:25:37

let , say that people wouldn't probably like

1:25:39

you know it's has to do with sort of morphing

1:25:41

into ai and that

1:25:43

you know what you know think of as human

1:25:45

that be anymore and

1:25:48

, be served like like a

1:25:50

giant crap tentacles and space

1:25:52

like think an alaskan king crab

1:25:54

legs that's know eighty miles

1:25:56

long and made of some material

1:25:59

that we can either now carbon

1:26:01

fiber is you know maybe

1:26:04

nano tech kind of thing but you know consciousness

1:26:06

of everyone is in there and

1:26:08

since nothing to do with planet earth anymore

1:26:10

in which is sort floating around and know

1:26:13

i've had lots

1:26:16

and lots of thoughts about this as you would expect

1:26:19

and

1:26:22

many of them has come to

1:26:24

well the one thing i didn't get

1:26:27

that vision was that we

1:26:29

are consciousness that there was any more

1:26:31

suffering the

1:26:33

know the plus which

1:26:36

came to me later i didn't realize at

1:26:38

the time the fisher the

1:26:40

had just such a strong need your thing that

1:26:42

i wasn't thinking i was to go

1:26:44

no no no no no no no

1:26:47

no no ice but you

1:26:49

know thinking about it later i wondered about

1:26:51

my limitations and prejudices and judging

1:26:53

that and you know it's

1:26:56

just awesome just

1:27:01

so you know better not

1:27:04

not to have those reactions but i'm

1:27:06

i'm giving you the very bearish phones as as

1:27:08

but you know that know that kind

1:27:10

of it and i will say that since

1:27:14

that experience i

1:27:16

have woken up a great deal

1:27:19

and i do see the non dual pretty much

1:27:21

twenty four seven and law which

1:27:23

is very interesting way to live

1:27:26

awaited people respond to me the whether

1:27:29

you response is ,

1:27:31

than and it might have been if we done this

1:27:33

interview a year ago something you know and

1:27:36

how i was sitting i chinese restaurant eating

1:27:38

some tofu written a book the other day aesthetics

1:27:40

guy comes rushing and and figured making

1:27:42

delivery but turns out is waiting for

1:27:46

that is what hitler his lunch dinner

1:27:48

extensive pick up lunch and ,

1:27:50

wasn't ready so it can agitated staying

1:27:52

there because you know gotta go fenix yeah end

1:27:54

up and comes over to my table

1:27:56

under since cover for comes over to my

1:27:58

table and looks

1:28:00

for mrs who are you holy

1:28:03

shit i say like you know and i'm a

1:28:05

guy my again

1:28:08

my to he

1:28:10

said no no command really who ours how

1:28:14

can i help you

1:28:16

i felt this way for

1:28:18

i'm always running and running and am

1:28:21

always running and don't from earth and never smoked

1:28:23

is i gathered for a chemical factory on

1:28:25

with the on the bus and this was a live animal

1:28:27

and i was an emergency package demolished

1:28:29

in my life is like that it's like i

1:28:31

don't live this way

1:28:33

and it may seven or eight minutes waiting

1:28:35

for his noodles whatever no

1:28:38

telling me about the

1:28:40

wife yeah and

1:28:42

i pretty much say nothing and

1:28:47

then he lives

1:28:49

administaff just

1:28:51

happens the non stop now

1:28:54

year before

1:28:56

elena with dennis energetic thing maybe

1:28:59

and i've seen it would you know why

1:29:02

does , trudy good manners you

1:29:04

know she is your hands inside ally

1:29:06

but same thing all the rom das

1:29:08

teachers it's and member c i

1:29:10

a she came to the park as of mean

1:29:14

i go to meet that uber that uber

1:29:16

drivers wiping tears away

1:29:19

he's just opened up there for

1:29:21

there whole ride about harry struggling with alcoholism

1:29:24

and then

1:29:26

he's like listen i'm going away is okay if i

1:29:28

wait year to drive her back out

1:29:30

his driver back and that

1:29:33

is that's the healing part isn't it that's

1:29:35

what you're talking about this you become a

1:29:37

healer yeah

1:29:39

i guess so

1:29:40

oh i don't like labels but i do notice

1:29:43

some shifts and this and

1:29:46

i was a period of time in my early training

1:29:48

or i went through healing phase

1:29:50

where i could do lot of hands on

1:29:52

healing on healing see things like a woman

1:29:54

pregnant before she knows her in

1:29:57

a and sipping cancer and somebody and

1:29:59

and

1:30:00

that could affect things but my

1:30:03

teacher

1:30:05

the said you know larger says that that the

1:30:08

way is this really clear highway

1:30:11

for some reason in i realized he had lost

1:30:13

little passing and short hats

1:30:15

and so and so on and mountains and he

1:30:17

said you know this is very sticky abilities

1:30:21

that you develop is twenty years ago

1:30:23

or more are very sticky

1:30:25

because you're thinking well

1:30:27

how could i ignore an ability to help

1:30:29

people so directly intangibly as

1:30:31

that like why would anything about

1:30:34

me or my pats be more important

1:30:36

than being able to do that right

1:30:38

and he said he said why

1:30:41

you feel that way and all i can and

1:30:43

and and i can't make up your mind feel that what

1:30:45

you want to do at it as year teacher

1:30:48

i will tell you that is not

1:30:50

your pet holy

1:30:52

shit and that was one of the

1:30:55

the hardest

1:30:57

it remains one

1:31:00

of the most difficult thing that

1:31:02

go through and in english decades

1:31:05

this i still

1:31:07

wonder about that are

1:31:09

you know i listened to him and trust

1:31:14

the city's you there are no idea my

1:31:16

at all the teachers are always sort of will

1:31:19

, they were cautionary about these

1:31:21

things i i so i could

1:31:23

talk to you i

1:31:26

i have so many things i would love

1:31:28

to

1:31:30

as you mentioned uber i know the

1:31:32

it's been and it's have been an hour and

1:31:34

a half now i have and ,

1:31:36

covers and assess

1:31:39

i feel okay i thought they

1:31:41

would you know

1:31:43

about john lilies vision right

1:31:45

you know our john miller has any saw that

1:31:47

to tell the user will

1:31:49

know his vision of the

1:31:52

a technological future

1:31:54

like that his vision of the he

1:31:57

so what use are he saw the same piece of

1:31:59

the thing the thing you with

1:32:01

one of the possible things the same

1:32:03

whatever that is don't know what it is the

1:32:05

other people have reported in on it's a

1:32:08

, ways but this design

1:32:10

you know ray kurzweil does this is like

1:32:12

his idea of like things were right you'll

1:32:15

be happy to hear what you said we try know

1:32:17

we figured out deconstruct ourself at atomic

1:32:19

level in then you become

1:32:21

sort of cosmic cindy

1:32:23

of

1:32:24

whatever it may i may have exponent

1:32:26

of the idea that lot the cia guys

1:32:29

are that are only purpose

1:32:32

actually the the human race is purpose

1:32:34

organic life's purpose is simply

1:32:36

to facilitate the appearance of strong

1:32:38

male then

1:32:40

after that would put would you know let universe

1:32:42

understand if itself and then after that

1:32:44

we are irrelevant

1:32:46

and you know i'm i'm far

1:32:49

far far far

1:32:51

from in position the judge whether

1:32:53

that is true or not or even

1:32:56

he had i'll do i know any of that would

1:32:58

i can say is that my know my

1:33:00

gut reaction was not

1:33:02

was was not the like

1:33:04

will you went job you did the job

1:33:07

saying that's a job did to a job

1:33:09

gods fucks up his whole family his whole

1:33:11

life and then that isn't the answer

1:33:13

to job like who are you to judge that

1:33:16

which made said that dioxide you

1:33:19

know who are you are we did like would

1:33:21

censor to , to

1:33:23

judge what you are going to you it's like

1:33:25

your it's like your toddler telling

1:33:27

you how to drive your car car

1:33:30

whatever i but i don't blame you if i sought

1:33:32

spindly sentence crab

1:33:34

legs is what like we're all headed towards

1:33:36

i wouldn't be like wow this is great

1:33:39

i like that you make like that colorful or something

1:33:41

what is the said you're only

1:33:43

doing the air i will say

1:33:46

that there was the other

1:33:48

thing that came out of the

1:33:51

though let let's put the

1:33:53

process in different frame

1:33:56

and sort of a more traditional that

1:33:58

was framed but let's let's

1:34:00

that i was climbing

1:34:02

you know the stairs for the last

1:34:04

four years in this and and

1:34:07

i wanted to

1:34:08

achieve some kind of awakening again

1:34:11

we don't use the word that erupted to

1:34:13

connect us spread your heavenly circle with

1:34:15

in heaven and

1:34:19

i get to a thousand steps

1:34:21

and you know from a thousand set some way way

1:34:23

up the man i'm almost at the very tough and

1:34:26

, view is good you know and i'm i feel

1:34:28

good about having done this work and what's

1:34:31

been important to me i wanted do it and

1:34:33

then you know some will say it's you know drifts

1:34:36

over and says hey a good the

1:34:38

new he got her thousand

1:34:41

you know you're only a steps away from weaken

1:34:44

up

1:34:45

for yeah and he says urlacher

1:34:48

good tell you that even

1:34:51

oh it's only eight those

1:34:55

eight going to be

1:34:57

the most horrible miserable

1:35:01

or to the steps fair

1:35:03

going to be so grotesque

1:35:05

that your mind cannot even

1:35:07

conceive of how much you are going

1:35:09

to mentally physically suffer to

1:35:11

get up the last eight steps as of courses

1:35:14

you know the last two years of my life with this

1:35:16

right and , know in and out

1:35:18

of hospital and surgery isn't it

1:35:20

ever ever mass to

1:35:24

misery beyond description

1:35:27

and what would like to tell you

1:35:32

the i'm the kind of monk

1:35:35

that i would sorta like to be and i'd like

1:35:37

to say yeah he told

1:35:39

me that duncan and the you know what i said simply you know

1:35:41

maybe yeah i

1:35:43

don't care about any of that because i want those

1:35:45

last eighteen last eighteen get a year in

1:35:49

fact the

1:35:54

in fact

1:35:56

i'm a rich like in the amazing

1:35:58

grace yeah and

1:36:01

in i recognize when i came out of always

1:36:04

i'm rich because if

1:36:07

someone had given me that choice before the

1:36:09

last two years start

1:36:11

given me that scenario

1:36:14

what is it yeah thanks

1:36:16

but i'm i'm good here

1:36:18

i'm good at least i set

1:36:21

a skylight snowmobile press another twenty

1:36:23

five years if if that long as you know maybe i'll

1:36:25

get some or media gets two three more of an

1:36:27

adult and only

1:36:30

because i'm a bag of in

1:36:32

i'm a wimp

1:36:34

i would need to let you know people of challenge

1:36:36

when i when i've said this is to some friends

1:36:38

as i said well you know maybe

1:36:40

your whole idea of like the macho mongooses

1:36:42

bring it on his is ridiculous that

1:36:45

nobody would say even them

1:36:47

up enough i still in my

1:36:49

in my you being as a wusa

1:36:52

chinese martial arts devoted fantasy

1:36:54

stuff in i still like to be that guy

1:36:56

that says know bring it on and i don't bat

1:36:58

an eye and go from yeah know that

1:37:00

that that was not and is not me

1:37:03

and the the just of really understanding

1:37:06

my own limitations and weakness is

1:37:08

, in whatever he go

1:37:11

in our in still have ego like everybody else

1:37:14

but wherever it was before all this

1:37:17

it's it's not at the same place

1:37:19

anymore because it's not that i

1:37:22

don't have urges are are ambitious

1:37:24

earning his shit that i realize it's

1:37:26

all silly like all

1:37:29

there is no place for the after so

1:37:31

much bigger things going on more important

1:37:33

that i don't get stuck that

1:37:35

little quagmire anymore and if i do

1:37:37

it for three second the

1:37:39

kid is no room for

1:37:41

it

1:37:42

not anything special about me other than

1:37:45

i see there's no room for that

1:37:49

wow

1:37:52

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