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Welcome to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where

1:33

two lifelong friends talk about life for

1:35

a long time. I'm Rhett. And

1:37

I'm Link. This week at the round table

1:39

of dim lighting, I gotta

1:41

share a

1:43

privacy scare, an online

1:46

privacy scare involving my TikTok

1:49

account. Thanks to you,

1:51

my friend. Yeah, I know about it. I

1:53

was acting surprised. I was feigning surprise,

1:56

they say. But you don't know. I have not told you about

1:58

my experience at all.

1:59

your experience. And I'm going to be talking to

2:02

you about something I've learned about my son's

2:04

musical taste, which I think we

2:07

both might find fascinating. Yeah,

2:09

because I actually was talking to him about his,

2:13

about music the other night. The other night,

2:16

when I was over at your house. Okay,

2:19

so yeah, put a pin in that. Can

2:22

I go first? I need to get this off my chest. Oh yeah,

2:25

please go first. I didn't know what you're signing

2:27

me up for when you

2:30

tagged me in a TikTok

2:33

thingy. I don't even know what a post,

2:35

what is a TikTok. If

2:38

you put a TikTok on

2:40

TikTok, it's called a TikTok.

2:42

Is that what it is? I usually just

2:45

call it a TikTok and then usually I call

2:47

it a TikTok video or TikTok

2:49

vid if there's young people listening. So

2:52

I'm just a TikTok vid, sometimes a TTV. How

2:55

did this work? You

2:57

were teasing. Well,

3:00

I mean, I'm semi-active,

3:03

semi-active on TT. That's

3:05

what I call it. Yeah, I mean, TTVs,

3:09

everyone's in a W. And

3:14

because I've been talking about the James and the Shame stuff,

3:17

yes, I've been a little bit

3:19

more active over there. And because

3:22

you sang with me on the song. Right. So a

3:24

lot of people, well, we were doing

3:26

something that, we were doing a photo

3:29

shoot for something that, I don't know, you

3:31

may find out about at some point. It

3:33

was kind of a weird photo shoot, it will explain in

3:36

some point in the future, but it

3:38

wasn't Playgirl. But

3:42

we were at this house.

3:45

I wish I were ready for that. Yeah,

3:47

I'm not in, I mean, there was a, they did ask

3:49

us, would you guys like to get in the pool? And I was like, I'm

3:51

not in pool shape. You got to give this

3:53

guy two to three months warning

3:56

for pool shots. Maybe that's what we need. Maybe

3:59

we need to put one. If you, hey, if you... A playgirl

4:01

shoot on the calendar. If you set... That would

4:03

be like a Marvel movie. Well, let's just, let's

4:05

just baby steps. Pull, pull, shoot. Oh.

4:08

And I'm talking about billiards. Okay,

4:11

so step one, three months from now, we do

4:13

a billiard shoot. Three months after that,

4:15

we do an actual liquid pool. Swimming

4:17

pool. And then three months after that,

4:19

playgirl. That's the pace, that's where we're

4:21

headed.

4:22

Okay.

4:23

And then a year from now, we start our OnlyFans.

4:26

But it's the two of us together. Oh, I

4:28

already have one. Why are you even telling me about

4:30

it? Well, it's the same thing about my TikTok. I don't,

4:32

you know, nobody knows about it. So anyway. Until

4:34

you start talking about it publicly. We were at this house,

4:37

it wasn't my house. Everyone was like, oh,

4:39

now we know you got a secret room. Anyway, it

4:41

was a dumb little thing that was featuring the song that you sang

4:44

on where,

4:46

you know, I opened up a secret door

4:49

to a bar and you stumbled out. And it was like, surprise,

4:51

Link singing on my song. People thought that was your house. Let

4:53

me just say. It's not your house. People were really

4:55

happy to see that. It's got over a million

4:57

views. You know, that's

5:00

all it takes, Link, is just for your best

5:02

friend to stumble out of a bar to

5:04

get a million views on TT. Yeah,

5:06

you think? You know? But

5:08

I tagged you. See what happens when you include

5:10

me in your solo project. Okay, well, let

5:13

me. Let me. You can

5:15

go look at the other views on the

5:17

other videos as well. I have,

5:19

I have. So there was also,

5:23

I had to actually ask

5:25

you in person while we were there, is

5:27

this your TikTok, like, LinkNeil1?

5:31

Right. And then like the actual. I joined

5:33

too late to get LinkNeil. And

5:35

then it was like, LinkNeil, aka

5:37

SnuggleBaby, is like what you actually call

5:40

yourself. Hell Count SnuggleBaby. What

5:42

did I say? You just left out the Hell Count

5:44

part. Hell Count SnuggleBaby? Yeah. And

5:47

you were like, yeah, that's me. And no

5:50

posts at the time. I

5:52

think you had like under 2,000 followers

5:55

at the time. So I have. I

5:58

think I had 800. 100 followers.

6:01

Oh really? Yeah, I had under a thousand. Under a thousand.

6:04

So I don't know what you're at. When we're recording

6:06

this, you're like closing in on 10,000, but

6:08

I'm sure it's gonna go up. I have 8,000

6:11

followers now, so you 10X'd me.

6:14

Well, it's still happening. It's still going. And now

6:16

we're talking about it now. People know you got a TikTok.

6:19

But. Link Neal, the number

6:21

one. I was. Apparently, if you wanna follow, nothing.

6:23

I was looking at, I

6:26

don't know if it was the comments or if it was a

6:28

tweet. I can't remember. Someone said,

6:33

Rhett put Link's TikTok

6:35

on blast. And.

6:37

And nobody knew it existed. And. Unless

6:40

you really were digging. Link's favorites,

6:43

Link's likes, liked videos are public.

6:48

And so I get a text. So I texted you.

6:51

At 9.36 at night, which

6:54

is pretty much guaranteed that I'm not

6:56

gonna get that text use. I was so surprised

6:58

that you responded. See, six minutes in

7:00

the shut-eye right now. Right. Exactly.

7:04

Which is the name of our next song. Six minutes in

7:06

the shut-down. Shut-eye. Shut-down,

7:08

exactly. It is a full

7:10

shut-down. Let's be clear, it is

7:13

a shut-down. I do have a gift, you

7:15

know? It's not that I'm not an anxious person,

7:17

but it does not affect my ability

7:19

to fall asleep or stay asleep. And

7:22

I'm so grateful for that. So

7:24

yeah, I'm in bed, getting in there

7:26

a little bit later, snuggling up in my sheets.

7:30

And I guess because I had my phone

7:34

open, the text came through.

7:36

Oh, I caught you while you were grazing. Well,

7:39

I think I was making

7:41

sure that my alarm was set to the right time. Okay, all right.

7:44

You know, because I really try not to look

7:46

at stuff right before I go to sleep. It's

7:48

a bad habit. Because they say not to do that. They say,

7:51

I don't like to plant thoughts in my head. I

7:54

just like, you know, I like to purge all

7:56

thoughts. You can plant good thoughts in your head right

7:58

before you go to bed. But... There's apps

8:00

for that. You. There's all videos you

8:02

can listen to on YouTube where it's like sleep

8:04

talk and there's people talking you to

8:06

sleep. Boring stuff? That's

8:09

a good idea. Well, it's kind of what we did for the society.

8:11

Let's dream about that. We did, let's dream about

8:13

that. So yeah, you send me this text.

8:16

It's like people are saying that your

8:19

TikTok likes are public and

8:22

I just immediately

8:24

had this physical reaction. You

8:27

know when like the blood like drains

8:31

out of your body? Well, what did you have to be ashamed

8:33

of? And well, I'm just telling you what the physical

8:35

response, not the logical response. First,

8:37

it was physical. The blood

8:40

drained out of my body, which feels weird

8:42

when you're lying down because

8:45

what does it do? Go out the butt hole? Like what's

8:47

the lowest point of a lying down link? I don't

8:49

think the blood leaves the body. I

8:51

think the lowest point of my prone body

8:53

is the butt cheeks. So you

8:56

get some swollen butt cheeks like a baboon in heat, but

8:58

that's about all. I think my butt

9:00

cheeks were engorged with blood.

9:03

Yep. As a result, did you turn over

9:05

and show your wife? Of your. Hey baby.

9:08

Feel how hot my butt is. My butt is engorged

9:10

right now. Is yours.

9:14

So yeah, it was just like this like immediate

9:17

just like jump to embarrassment.

9:19

But you haven't been looking at any dancing ladies or

9:21

anything. And then, well, yeah.

9:25

You haven't been liking that. Here's what

9:27

it felt like. This is what I like it to do. It's like

9:30

if you're walking around a room

9:32

like, let's say you're in a room and

9:34

you're doing some sort of chores and stuff

9:36

and you're going about business and you've

9:38

been in there for, I don't know, if

9:41

it's 10 minutes or an hour. Okay.

9:44

And then all of a sudden somebody

9:46

speaks and you realize, oh, somebody's

9:49

been in the room the whole time. Oh, I didn't see

9:51

him. I cleaned right around. It's

9:53

just like immediately you're running

9:55

everything through your head or like, oh,

9:58

what have I been saying? If you join a. like

10:00

a video chat,

10:03

like a Zoom meeting. Oh yeah. Or

10:05

a Google Meet on your computer and then

10:08

nobody's in the meeting yet. So

10:10

then you open another tab and you start, well

10:12

I might as well browse or do something.

10:15

You know what I think Doc is start liking, incriminating videos.

10:17

Right, you do stuff like that and then all of a sudden you

10:19

forget that you have an open webcam

10:22

and video chat going

10:25

when people start joining the meeting and

10:27

then you're like, it's just you have this feeling

10:29

of like being exposed.

10:32

It's like when you realize that

10:34

you've been watched and you don't know it, it

10:36

kind of feels like, oh

10:39

my God. It's not that you necessarily remember

10:42

doing anything compromising, it's just.

10:44

I probably was. You were dancing like no one

10:46

was watching. Exactly. And

10:49

so I was like,

10:51

you know, just scrambling,

10:55

scrambling to get on TikTok and like, I

10:57

didn't even look at what my favorites were. Oh I did.

11:00

Well I want to. That's the first thing

11:02

I did. That's the exercise that I wanna do. Well that's

11:04

the first thing I did before I called you. Oh really? Before

11:07

I texted you. I texted you and then

11:09

immediately went and looked at your life. I'm scrambling,

11:11

I'm scrambling like, oh God, how do you, privacy

11:13

settings. Cause when I signed up for TikTok,

11:17

it's just like everything else you sign up for. It's,

11:20

okay, I'm just, I'm not planning

11:23

on doing anything here. Right. And

11:27

you really gotta go all the way through all those settings.

11:29

Just taking your claim. It's like buying one, like a square

11:31

foot of the moon. You know, that was going

11:33

around for a while. Yeah, it's just a little trend. Buying

11:36

a, naming a star after yourself. You

11:38

do it just in case. Right.

11:41

Just in case. Just in case we do populate the

11:43

moon. You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I have a certificate

11:45

that says I own a square foot of this. But what you don't

11:48

do. You're not building this mall moon, moon mall on

11:50

my land. Exactly. But

11:53

what you don't do is you don't go into the settings

11:55

on your moon. What's

11:59

it called when you have a. section of the length? Tracked.

12:01

Your moon track. Moon track. You don't go

12:03

deep into the settings and you're like, oh I don't want anybody

12:05

to see where I step around on my

12:07

track, it's like, who cares, it's just gonna be

12:10

footprints. And you can pretty much just spin on one sort

12:12

of foot, by the way. You don't really think about it. So

12:15

I changed my privacy settings. And then

12:17

you started looking at what people might have seen. Let's

12:20

see what people have seen. One,

12:23

two, three, four, five, six, seven,

12:26

eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21.

12:34

21 rows of three. So, 69.

12:39

Is that 69? Oh, 63.

12:42

I wish it was 69. I have

12:44

fevered, it's 69 things. That's the

12:46

first just

12:48

scandalous thing. And then I'm like, oh crap, I

12:52

gotta look through all of this. So I'd like

12:54

to look through this right now and you tell me, I have

12:57

candidates for what could be the most incriminating

13:00

stuff. Okay, well I saw one thing

13:02

that I've learned an opinion about. I

13:04

can, I know what you're talking

13:06

about. I can't withhold it. Now

13:09

first of all. But I'm also guilty of it. The

13:11

first, really? The

13:14

first, if I go all the way back to the beginning, the

13:16

first thing I ever favorited

13:19

on TikTok is

13:21

a 30 million view video

13:25

of Lizzo. And of course, this

13:28

is pre whatever she's going through that I don't

13:30

even know about. I just,

13:33

I have an inkling that something

13:35

happened with Lizzo and I don't wanna know

13:37

about it. But yeah, at

13:40

one point I favorited a Lizzo tweet. TT.

13:44

TT, all right. Leave

13:47

me out of it. Whatever

13:49

it is or was or will be, leave

13:51

me out of it. Yep. And

13:54

then a few more. There's

13:58

an overhead view of.

15:03

about

16:00

why he decided to leave the Daily Show. And

16:02

then of course, I thought I would have many

16:04

more of these, but like middle aged

16:07

men showing you how to stretch

16:09

stuff. I have a whole

16:11

category of that. I need to make a category

16:13

that, yeah. I just call it body. Body.

16:17

Body. And then I start. My body.

16:20

The first thing that I started to get embarrassed by

16:22

was I would

16:25

favorite or like videos

16:27

featuring me. Yep, saw that. And

16:30

that's what I noticed. So

16:32

just little moments from this show. That's

16:36

what I noted. That I found. Yeah.

16:41

Like

16:42

the story of me crying on my wife's shoulder.

16:45

I was like, you know what? I

16:47

wanna be a fan of myself for that. Well,

16:50

hold on, is that really why you like it? Because I'm

16:53

guilty of this as well. I honestly

16:56

don't know why I liked it. I

16:58

occasionally, well, I actually, I

17:00

have a habit, if not an

17:02

obligatory compulsion,

17:06

to win something from the mythical

17:08

account or the mythical pods account. Pops

17:10

up on my FYP.

17:13

Yeah.

17:14

I just like it. Because I'm like, hey, this is,

17:16

you know. Support your own pods. This is our business.

17:20

It's not like voting for yourself in like

17:22

a, you know, the

17:24

class election. Right. That's

17:27

tacky. And occasionally, I'll like one

17:29

of my own videos, if I feel like it needs

17:32

a boost. So it's not a judgment

17:34

of my own video. Like, oh, I do like this video.

17:36

It's more like maybe liking this video will

17:38

help it do better. That's not why I did it. I

17:41

did it because I felt

17:44

like that was a special moment and

17:46

I wanted to, I really liked it. I

17:48

actually liked it. I

17:50

mean, sometimes I

17:52

watch some of the stuff we do and I'm like, well, damn.

17:55

If I wasn't me, I'd still like those guys. It's

17:57

so, then you like it? Yeah, film was a pleasure.

18:40

been

20:00

a whole lot of time. This is the one that I was like, oh,

20:02

is this the one that's gonna get me?

20:06

It's... I don't know if these...

20:08

What in the world? It's this hippie couple.

20:11

Why did you like this? That's...

20:13

I mean, it says that

20:15

she's a yoga teacher, but it's

20:18

this guy with his shirt off. This

20:20

feels like that love spasm video that went viral. On

20:25

Goop? The Goop video? Well,

20:27

it was a TikTok, and it was like a girl who was

20:29

like, he's having a love fit or something,

20:31

and she like hugs

20:33

him and shakes him, and it's like the cringiest

20:35

thing I've ever seen in my life. This feels like

20:37

you're in that territory, man. The girl... The

20:40

yoga girl is wearing... She's

20:43

wearing a toga type thing,

20:45

like a cheetah toga, and the guy's just

20:47

wearing shorts, and there's... It's a pretty wide shot, though.

20:50

It's a wide shot, and I don't know who these

20:52

people are, but it's called Intimate

20:55

Reconnection, and it just goes

20:57

through all of these things that they're basically

21:00

cuddling and tickling and talking

21:02

to each other. Were you trying to get, like,

21:04

tips? Well, I

21:06

was afraid that it just seemed like I was just gawking

21:09

at this couple who were just cuddling and

21:11

tickling and giggling with each other. But

21:15

yeah, and it goes through

21:18

steps of different

21:20

things for Intimate Reconnection. One,

21:22

non-sexual melting hug. Two,

21:25

synchronized circular breathing. But they're like...

21:28

I mean, they're

21:29

scantily clad, and they're just like... They're

21:32

doing something that I wouldn't film and put on a TikTok. But

21:35

do you remember when you liked this, the reason? It was,

21:37

oh, this is sweet, or... Yeah.

21:41

I need to remember this so I can do these things with Christy. One-minute

21:43

appreciation game. So

21:46

you really watched this video. It's quite a long video. I'm telling

21:48

you now what's in it. Number

21:51

four, make each other laugh. Number five, discuss

21:54

feeling using active listening.

21:57

So it's basically just a video of these people,

21:59

like... connecting

22:02

intimately but non-sexually.

22:05

But just a casual user would be like, oh,

22:08

you're a peeping Tom on these hippies having sexual

22:11

connection, having a little foreplay.

22:15

I don't think watching a TikTok video can make

22:17

you a peeping Tom, because you're

22:19

watching something that someone put on the internet to

22:21

be watched. Yeah, but when you're looking for this stuff and you're like,

22:23

What are people? I know. That

22:26

would be a different thing. I know. And

22:28

we've never done that.

22:29

No, no, especially not in eighth grade with

22:31

your girlfriend. Well,

22:34

I don't, it was your idea though. No, it wasn't.

22:40

No, it wasn't. I

22:42

felt really bad about it because my

22:44

wife, Christie, you

22:46

know her, she had a peeping Tom back

22:48

in high school. Well, high school, if you, I

22:51

was just saying middle school is the cutoff. You

22:53

should never do it. But if you, if I'm saying, We

22:56

were in middle school. That's like a person going through

22:58

like crazy hormones and like, you don't know what's

23:00

going on. You don't know which way is up. I'm not, I am

23:02

not defending it. I'm not defending it, but I'm saying

23:04

that if it becomes an adult activity, then

23:06

that's like a mental problem is

23:08

what I'm saying. That's like a crime. But

23:10

I'm saying like two 13 year olds looking in a window.

23:13

And we were a long ways away. Oh yeah, we were, we

23:15

were behind a wood pile. We were behind a wood pile.

23:18

It was on the other side of the yard. We didn't

23:20

go into the yard. We didn't stand outside the window. And

23:22

then her bedroom. We were 80 yards away. Her

23:24

bedroom was on the second floor. We could not

23:26

have thrown a football at this woman.

23:28

And hit the window. No, we're not even close.

23:31

And if the window was open. It landed halfway like a swing

23:33

set. And we didn't see nothing.

23:36

She folded some clothes. She folded some clothes.

23:38

She was folding clothes. She was folding clothes, that's all that

23:41

happened. The most enticing part

23:43

was like, ooh, is that underwear

23:45

she's folding? Is she folding underwear? That was the discussion

23:47

that was happening. It wasn't right. It

23:50

was wrong. It was very wrong. We condemn

23:52

it on every possible level. We condemn it on every

23:55

level, but from every angle. Help

23:58

us out, Jenna.

23:59

No. Come

24:02

on, Janna. I

24:04

don't see... I think

24:05

it's fine. It's

24:08

fine that we move on. Let's just

24:10

move on. I'm sorry I brought

24:12

it in. You're young, you're a

24:15

teenager, it's fine.

24:17

We were barely in 8th

24:19

grade. Right, right, right, right. I

24:24

thought what was going to incriminate us was going to be

24:26

watching hippies cuddle on tickle. Okay, what else?

24:30

This is it, man. This is the thing that scared me the most. But

24:32

yeah, the reason why I saved it is because, oh, I

24:34

want to do this. Okay,

24:36

well... And this is a good reminder

24:39

to do this. Long story short, you didn't have anything

24:41

to really be incriminated

24:43

by. And you found that out at the

24:45

same time. We were both simultaneously

24:48

looking at my favorites. No, I didn't scroll.

24:50

I looked and I was like, oh, there's

24:53

a... He liked the video of himself. He'll figure it

24:55

out. That's kind of what I said and I just went

24:58

on to do the rest of my things. The other

25:00

one I liked was my dad singing Happy

25:02

Birthday to me on Dispatches for Murder

25:04

Beach. Well, that's a sweet thing to like. Now I have that. You

25:08

can't remember it forever. You can put

25:10

it into a collection of times that people sing

25:12

Happy Birthday to you as well. Yeah, and I have

25:14

it... I have it too focused. I

25:17

have it right next to a video from Murder

25:20

on the Beach talking about

25:22

his come up. Such a strange...

25:25

I'm gonna talk to you about music. Well, but I was so relieved. From

25:27

a different perspective and a little bit, have something else to share with

25:29

you. But first... You got nothing on me. We

25:32

want to remind you that... You

25:35

can't catch me with my pants down. I

25:39

wasn't done. You can't catch me with my

25:41

pants down. Yeah, we're 25 minutes in. I

25:44

don't... He's not done. Because

25:47

I don't look at TikTok with my pants down. Okay,

25:50

well, we're gonna let it burn out. It's like

25:52

a... I have nothing to hide.

25:55

It's like one of those candles. Sometimes it's like... Link

25:58

is like those... Trick... birthday

26:00

candles that you keep trying to blow out? It's

26:02

because my brain works slow. So

26:06

what I was about to say was, you

26:09

might know that Link and Cotton Candy Randy have

26:11

a, they

26:13

don't get along. Fronked! I do get

26:15

along with Cotton Candy Randy, and we've tried

26:18

a number of forms of, you

26:21

know, working this out. We met with the therapist,

26:24

that didn't work. And now it has

26:26

moved to meeting with an actual legal

26:29

mediator, before it goes to an actual

26:32

court case, maybe. Right.

26:34

And so we had that mediation event

26:36

with a real life mediator.

26:39

And things got a little bit

26:42

wild. Again, this is exclusively

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Before we get into what I learned about

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my son's musical taste I would like to

28:58

share a piece of information that I learned. There

29:02

is a thrift store in Wales

29:05

that has asked people to stop

29:08

donating quote used

29:10

and unused sex toys. A

29:15

charity run thrift store, this is from

29:17

UPI.com, a charity run thrift

29:20

store in Wales is asking supporters to stop donating their

29:22

used and unused sex toys. The

29:24

Barnados or Barnardo's store

29:27

which supports the children's

29:29

charity issued a statement asking donors to

29:31

be careful what they bring to share. Could those

29:33

of you who kindly donate please

29:35

be mindful that we are a children's charity and

29:38

as such we have a range

29:40

of ages on our wonderful volunteer

29:43

team. So there's kids receiving

29:46

the things that are given.

29:49

We therefore ask that you refrain from donating your

29:52

used and unused marital aids. Oh

29:54

cool. We would like to remind you that marital

29:56

aid that the branch has CCTV

29:59

so that these items can be tracked back to

30:01

their owners. Thank you.

30:03

There's layers to this. Yeah.

30:06

May I? Before we get into

30:08

the specifics of what's happening here, I'd

30:11

like to ask, what's the

30:13

first time you saw a sex toy? Because

30:15

apparently, this is the answer

30:18

for a lot of children working in

30:20

Wales. In person?

30:22

Yeah. Well, first time I saw a sex

30:24

toy in person was when I was working

30:26

at a

30:27

thrift shop in Wales. In

30:29

Wales?

30:32

The first time in person, I

30:36

mean, honestly, it was probably after

30:39

I was married when

30:41

I bought one. When I know

30:43

when that was because I was there. When

30:46

we bought the, we bought a green worm? Yeah.

30:48

I don't mean that's the actual title, but- That's just what

30:50

we called it. Yeah. That's the first time

30:52

I saw a sex toy in person was

30:57

me and Rhett in a sex shop buying

30:59

what we called green worm. The same vibrator.

31:01

Hey. Two different vibrators.

31:04

Right. But also right around the same time, we bought

31:06

the same television. When we first got married,

31:09

we did research. One guy does research

31:11

on something. The other guy's like, what TV are

31:13

you getting? He's like, I did the research, get this TV. Why

31:15

would I get a different television? Yeah. What jam

31:18

box are you getting to play tunes in your bedroom?

31:20

Why would I get a different jam box? He's

31:23

done all the work. We went to the store

31:25

and we collectively did research

31:28

and we selected a small

31:32

green worm vibrator.

31:36

We were in Charleston, South Carolina. We

31:39

talked about this on sex timber, right? The girls

31:42

were coming into town to meet us because we were

31:44

traveling and we thought it would be

31:47

a fun surprise with a little

31:49

bit of funny. Yeah. A little shrimp and grit.

31:55

Just trying something. Yeah. The

32:00

word grit involves, it's

32:02

like the opposite of lube. Yeah,

32:05

yeah, I'll work on that. Shrimp and lube maybe. For

32:07

you, not for me. You

32:11

don't use lube? I don't have

32:13

what I would call a shrimp. Oh, okay, well, speaking

32:15

of that. I don't use it. My

32:18

goal in buying, I don't know if I told you

32:20

this, is I felt like- You kinda look like a dragon

32:23

tail. I felt like the green- Like the kid

32:25

show. I felt like the rules for the first vibrator

32:27

you ever buy for you and your wife is A, it

32:31

should be smaller than your own penis. B,

32:35

it should not be the same color as your own penis. No. Because,

32:38

I mean, hey, let's mix things up a little bit. Right. Therefore,

32:41

green. It could have been an alien's dick, probably. I'm

32:43

talking neon green. Yeah, yeah, it was so bright.

32:46

I mean- It may have been glow in the dark.

32:48

I don't know if I ever tested that. I like the lights

32:51

on. I think I did, yeah, and it wasn't. Hey,

32:55

that buddy lasted a long time. I don't know where

32:57

it is. I guess it's at a thrift store somewhere. In

32:59

Wales. Because I don't have it anymore.

33:01

They're both- And I definitely donated it. Plopped on itself

33:04

in Wales. Listen, no,

33:06

here's the thing. I

33:08

think that this is, I think this thrift

33:11

shop has great intentions. I think they're seeing

33:13

this all wrong. I

33:16

thought that they were gonna focus on the immediate,

33:18

like the obvious issue, which is like a sanitary

33:21

one. Hi, Gene. If something's been inside

33:23

your body, it doesn't need to potentially

33:26

go inside somebody else's body. However,

33:29

I think we can all agree that you

33:33

might buy utensils from

33:35

a- Thrift shop. Thrift shop, and those have been

33:37

in people's bodies. You might buy a mug.

33:41

How many mugs? Those mugs have been inside

33:43

people's bodies. Yes, it's the other end, but

33:45

it's inside their body, their mouth.

33:48

This mug goes into my mouth. That's just the rim

33:50

of it. That's the part that goes in your mouth if you drink

33:52

out of it. That's true. What about a rectal

33:54

thermometer? Well, now we're

33:57

back to the other end. A rectal thermometer at

33:59

a thrift shop. Is it because

34:01

we are worried

34:03

about STDs

34:06

or something? I mean, these things can be washed

34:08

very, very well. They can be completely

34:10

sanitized. You don't want the volunteer

34:13

children to be doing that. So, again, that's

34:15

what I thought they were going to be talking about was the sanitation.

34:18

But they're talking about the fact that the kids are receiving these, and

34:20

then it probably creates difficult

34:22

conversations. Don't say the kids are receiving

34:25

these, by the way. The kids

34:27

are seeing them and potentially... Handling

34:30

them. Preparing. But I just

34:32

think there's so many other ways

34:34

to describe

34:36

sex toys in ways that can be fun. You

34:40

don't have to think of it as... Think of all the things

34:42

you could have done with that green worm. Okay.

34:47

You got a thing that buzzes that

34:49

hard, multiple speeds. I think it could

34:51

be a... Looks like a dragon tail. A

34:55

coffee frother. Maybe.

34:58

Maybe. Maybe. It could

35:00

be an itchy ear fixer.

35:03

Well, the one of them... I'm

35:05

not done. Okay.

35:07

It could be... I

35:10

guess that

35:12

was done. One of the most famous

35:14

vibrators of all time is that

35:16

Hitachi. You know the Hitachi.

35:19

It is big. Who's clearing their throat

35:21

over there? It's like we said Hitachi and

35:23

Jamie said... I actually know the CEO

35:26

of that company. Oh,

35:28

really? Yeah. So if you

35:30

guys ever need any... Well, I've

35:33

been through a few. The first one we

35:35

ever got was... We had to plug that sucker in the

35:37

wall. You can hang it off the back of a

35:39

boat and just... Right across the

35:41

lake. When you've got to plug a vibrator into the wall...

35:46

I mean, that is a serious thing. Yeah,

35:48

it's a serious thing. You've

35:50

got to get your extension cord gang going.

35:53

And I will say, by the time we had upgraded to the

35:55

Hitachi... What a weird flex,

35:57

by the way. I know the same thing.

36:00

CEO of a catchy

36:02

vibrators. You

36:05

know the CEO of all of Hitachi?

36:06

Not Hitachi, because Hitachi had sold

36:08

it to Vibertex. Old

36:10

Sky. Old Sky. You know about

36:13

the dealings of the company. Yeah, yeah. For

36:16

the business. Well, we'll talk later. Yes. Jamie

36:19

comes from a, you know. Oh, she

36:21

worked on a sex podcast. For years. Yeah,

36:23

I went to a lot of like shows. Okay, yeah, yeah.

36:26

I don't know, it wasn't the top of your resume,

36:28

but you buried the lead. Was

36:31

it not the top of my resume? I didn't actually. I

36:33

know. That's what Kiko hired me. It

36:35

probably was the top of your resume. Well

36:38

by the time I got the one that plugged into the wall,

36:40

I had- Kiko hired you? Kiko's like, oh, they'll

36:42

love this. I just, I

36:44

don't know. Well,

36:46

we're talking. Yeah,

36:49

but like what ends up happening typically

36:52

is like the conversation stops and then I begin

36:54

to talk again and then you

36:56

begin to talk in the middle of me beginning to talk.

36:59

It's cool if you still got something to say, but it would be

37:01

nice to just let me finish what I'm going

37:03

to say and then get back to it in a gap.

37:06

Like there's- Well, I have something to say. Yeah, but-

37:08

That is what we were just talking about. Right, but like usually the

37:10

time to say that- You need to just slow your brain

37:13

down a little bit, man. Is in the gap between what other

37:15

people are saying. Most people are

37:17

like listening to what other people are saying and then there's

37:19

a gap and they're like, oh, that's where I get in. I get in

37:21

in the gap. Weird flex. I'm

37:24

sorry. I'll keep

37:27

trying, but we need to meet in the middle. Yeah,

37:29

meet in the middle of the gap between the things that I'm saying. Well, then

37:32

we move on. Here's

37:34

the thing I'm saying, here's the thing I'm saying, and then there's a gap

37:36

and that's where you get in and then I do the same to

37:38

you. It's a beautiful arrangement. It's called conversation.

37:41

It works great on a podcast. By

37:45

the time we had upgraded

37:47

to something that you plug in the wall, I

37:49

had fully embraced a vibrator

37:52

that was significantly larger

37:54

than my own penis. That was all I was trying to

37:56

say. And by getting at this point

37:58

now, the third time, I'm trying to say that. I listen in

38:00

lane question. I'm sorry. I know you I

38:02

know it rubs you the wrong way. I'm not

38:05

tribe out You I'll try harder you

38:07

think I should enjoy it. Is that what you're saying?

38:10

I should learn to like it. No I get

38:12

it Now

38:14

we're on purpose are we are we done with

38:16

this story or is there more is there more to

38:19

explore here? Yeah,

38:22

I totally broke it damn No,

38:25

I'm just saying I think that was

38:28

it. I don't think there's anything else to explore here I'm open

38:30

to anything that you want. Oh, that's what oh, that's

38:32

what you're doing. Oh Let me think

38:34

about it Hmm you

38:37

probably help if you started talking about the next thing yeah,

38:39

right. That's what really does that gives me a sense of urgency It

38:41

seems to just like oh, we're turn you on. Oh,

38:43

we're done Shit

38:46

I have one more thing right yeah

38:51

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Okay, so back

40:42

to music. I wanted to talk

40:44

about something that I have, and

40:47

it's good that you talked to Shepard individually.

40:53

Because, you

40:55

know, Shepard's got great musical taste. Even

40:58

as a young kid, I very

41:01

quickly picked up on the fact that he wasn't really interested

41:03

in musical trends. He

41:08

wasn't really interested in what his

41:11

peers liked. When I found out that he liked

41:13

bread, and

41:16

he's like in middle school, I'm like, okay,

41:18

yes. And I think I told you about the playlist

41:21

that he had called Cool Songs,

41:25

which he started when he was like

41:27

nine,

41:29

and added to it, and it became

41:31

like a soundtrack for our home in a lot

41:33

of ways, because he's a great DJ.

41:36

He just knows good

41:39

songs. You

41:41

introduce him to a genre, and he immediately

41:43

gravitates towards the

41:46

good choices in that genre. So when I

41:48

introduced him to old country, he

41:51

gravitated towards Glenn Campbell. Right,

41:55

which is strangely specific, but

41:58

pretty awesome. that you

42:00

really, like, Glenn Campbell is kinda operating

42:02

on another level. And I wasn't

42:04

like offended that he didn't like really,

42:08

you know,

42:09

latch on to Merle. He has

42:11

a number of Merle songs in his cool songs

42:14

list. But I appreciated that he wasn't just,

42:16

oh, I just like these songs because my dad likes

42:19

them. He's like, I have actually

42:21

examined this genre and come to this specific

42:25

conclusion that Glenn Campbell

42:27

is special. Well, it's the thing that doesn't happen

42:30

as readily. Now,

42:33

I don't feel like that, you

42:35

know, with popular music,

42:38

you just kinda get on the bandwagon

42:40

and, you know, listening to what you're,

42:43

well, there's all these music in our house, but like growing

42:47

up, the music that we listened

42:49

to was, it was a lot less

42:52

of it. And of course the accessibility was much

42:54

more limited. But we

42:56

found ourselves going back. Like we liked

42:59

our parents' music. I

43:02

mean, with your parents, it

43:04

like went all the way back to like Frankie Valli,

43:07

like doo

43:09

wop type stuff. Like 10 years older

43:12

than your parents. You had an appreciation

43:14

for that and like the

43:17

Beach Boys and Elvis and,

43:20

but then you would also have an

43:22

appreciation for Billy Joel,

43:26

which was still preceded us, the

43:29

stuff that we liked the most. But the thing that

43:31

we did not do that Shepherd is doing now,

43:34

which is, first of all, I'm happy

43:36

that this is happening because the idea

43:40

that my kid's musical taste

43:44

is like too overly influenced by my

43:47

taste is like not an appealing

43:49

thing to me. Like I

43:51

would be a little bit kind of like hurt, to

43:54

be honest, if like they didn't like

43:56

any of the stuff that I liked, but if my kid's

43:59

musical taste is. and complete alignment

44:01

with me, then the whole individuation

44:04

process hasn't happened. I've

44:08

been expecting there to be some sort

44:10

of… Branching. …test

44:12

of rebellion to actively… I

44:18

think it's important for teenagers to

44:20

actively like things that their parents

44:23

actively dislike. I just feel

44:25

like that's a really important…

44:28

…developmental thing,

44:31

you know what I mean? And music is

44:34

a safer place to do that.

44:36

We actually talked about this some on car biscuits,

44:39

which if you don't know on the Mythical Society,

44:41

we drive in the car and we have like a mini version

44:43

of this type of conversation, but it's

44:45

like much less structured and I never

44:48

interrupt you.

44:49

That's right. Beautiful over there. Well,

44:53

what was my point? Yeah, this

44:56

concept of like

44:59

controlled… Like

45:01

a safe area for not

45:03

only individuation, but like simulated

45:06

rebellion. You know, like

45:09

we listened to gangster rap that we didn't

45:11

want our parents to know about and were we exposed

45:13

to things that like otherwise we would never have

45:15

learned and things that

45:19

particularly misogynistic

45:23

concepts that we

45:26

never latched onto, but we were like… It

45:28

was like, oh, this is… We

45:31

shouldn't be listening to this. And it's

45:33

actually… I was listening to this… There

45:36

was an unhealthy part of it. …a psychologist talk about

45:38

this concept and I think he said it is

45:42

perfectly… And this will make you feel good, parents. It

45:45

is perfectly normal

45:48

from the ages of 13 to 24, I think he said, for your children

45:52

to think you're an idiot.

45:56

You know, to just think that you're an idiot and

45:58

it's… He was… I'm paraphrasing

46:01

and probably getting some of this wrong, but the idea

46:03

seemed to be that historically

46:07

this was a time for children

46:10

to sort of learn who you can

46:12

trust and also to

46:16

forcibly be kind of be pushed out to

46:18

go and start their own thing. We're

46:21

talking like hunter-gatherer days. Because

46:24

these communities could only get so big, like 150

46:26

or so, and they needed to start a

46:29

new one. Like my cave dad is

46:32

a dumbass. And basically it's like you go through puberty

46:35

and one of the things that ends up happening is

46:37

you hate your

46:40

parents. I'm not saying my kids hate me, I'm just

46:42

saying that like, your club worker's stupid,

46:45

dad! There's this idea of like, I'm

46:47

not going to like everything that they say, I'm

46:49

not going to like everything they do, I'm not going to like everything they

46:51

like. The pelts you like are stupid!

46:54

Then when you get back to age

46:57

of 24 approximately, is

46:59

when you kind of are like, oh my

47:01

parents were actually, they

47:04

actually knew what they were talking about. I appreciate

47:06

them. So if you're waiting for your kids to express appreciation,

47:09

apparently it doesn't happen to

47:14

on average about 24. But

47:17

back to Shepard. So he's

47:20

got a group of friends and

47:22

they play music together, and

47:26

like a band or they listen to music? Like

47:29

a band. And he plays

47:31

keyboards? He plays guitar. So

47:34

Shepard plays piano, violin and guitar,

47:37

but in this band he plays guitar. And

47:40

they're not really a band, they don't have a show yet,

47:42

they don't have any original songs or anything like that, they're just

47:45

like guys that get together when

47:47

they can all get together in a garage

47:49

and play music. And

47:52

I'm sure it's great. But the thing that

47:55

they really

47:58

do is they talk. about music

48:00

and they connect over music

48:03

and there's this sort

48:06

of method in philosophy that

48:08

is sort of unspoken because to speak about

48:10

it is inherently uncool. So

48:13

I started hearing Shepard talk about his

48:15

musical taste and some of the stuff that they were into

48:19

and so I was like, Shepard, you've got to talk

48:21

me through this. You've got to talk me through the way that you guys

48:23

approach this because A, it's fascinating and B,

48:25

I want to talk about it on my podcast. And

48:31

he was like, well, you can't talk about specifics because that

48:33

kind of ruins the whole thing which is exactly

48:35

the point I'm about to explore.

48:39

And that is they have this

48:41

thing where this group of friends will

48:44

quote, put you onto a

48:47

band. Yeah. Right?

48:50

Yeah. That's the term that they use. Yeah.

48:53

They put you onto this band and there

48:56

is essentially like clout in

48:59

finding a band that nobody else in the group

49:01

knows about that everyone else in the group

49:03

likes. That's the Venn diagram.

49:06

Yeah. Totally. That's

49:08

when you have succeeded. Totally. So you can't put somebody

49:10

onto a band that everyone knows about. You can't put

49:13

someone onto a band that is super

49:15

popular. So I was like, so how

49:17

many like, just to put things in

49:19

terms of Spotify monthly listeners?

49:23

And so he starts showing me some of these bands

49:25

and we're talking like 3,200 monthly listeners.

49:30

I mean, these are small, these are small

49:32

bands and some of them are like people

49:34

making music. I was like, when

49:36

did this album come out? He's like, 2006. It's

49:39

like, it's not really. Yeah. And

49:41

it's, and so I'm like, what are these? And it's,

49:44

it's all kind of like, I would say broadly

49:46

emo. Ooh,

49:49

that didn't work.

49:51

Well when I say emo, emo

49:53

goes into like metal,

49:57

but it also goes into. More

50:01

like clean guitar but like screamo

50:03

is kind of a form of emo,

50:06

you know, it's like these are very Emotional

50:09

it's all very emotional. So like this

50:11

guy screaming at the top of his lungs

50:14

But what he's saying is like really like

50:18

You know, I'm emotional, you

50:20

know, I burnt my hand on my tea kettle

50:22

I don't it's more just about

50:25

like I mean some I he

50:27

said me again I'm not gonna I can't I

50:29

can't point it out. I can't put it on blast.

50:32

I can't ruin it I mean, this

50:35

is here biscuits. I

50:37

mean what you can't say you can't I

50:39

can say right genres You can't direct people

50:41

to artists because then it will get

50:43

more streams. I can't ruin it I have to

50:45

it has it has to be small but good But

50:48

you listen to it. I got into

50:50

in your opinion. Oh, I hate it. It's

50:53

bad. Oh, yeah. I hate it. I Actively

50:56

hate it, but I loved

50:58

that. I hated can you know what I'm saying? I was like

51:00

areas He's he's actively listening

51:02

to something that is objectively bad. But

51:05

let me okay This makes me feel like what they

51:07

add amateur or was it just a genre

51:09

that you did not like because you also

51:12

You're also have the capability of saying

51:14

I can appreciate it. There's there's skill

51:17

here in execution

51:19

and there's not for me so does

51:22

it suck or Is it

51:24

just not for you? Well, first of all Most

51:28

bands that have been playing for a while

51:30

that are still kind of hovering around 10,000 or

51:33

less monthly listeners like there's a reason

51:35

it didn't it doesn't have a mass appeal, right? And

51:38

a lot of times that does mean yes, it's not

51:40

that great from a technical standpoint

51:44

He plays some stuff and I'm like there's a lot

51:46

of in fact It was so I was I

51:48

find myself Dadding real hard a lot of

51:50

times but he plays this thing and I and

51:52

I found myself I Think I told

51:54

you this on Car Biscuits. He plays

51:56

it and I was like You

52:00

You can hear the imperfections in this. You can hear

52:02

all the mistakes in this, right? Just making

52:04

sure that as a musician, you can hear all the mistakes.

52:07

Like the timing mistakes and the mid

52:09

notes. He's like, yeah, dad, that's part

52:11

of it. So they're not playing to a metronome

52:13

a lot of these bands. In fact, it sounds

52:16

like you're describing a demo. Yes, it

52:18

all sounds very demo. And just a few genres

52:20

to throw out there. Of

52:22

course, screamo, but Scrams?

52:26

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, I don't know.

52:27

As a DJ, you might be ready for this. Crust,

52:31

crust. What is, I don't

52:33

even know. I mean, do you have a description for these?

52:37

He's 15. He couldn't really give me

52:39

one. He would play- Oh, you're not reading a list

52:41

here. This is why he told you. Scrams and crust

52:44

are the things I remember. And

52:46

he would play some things. And it was like, it

52:49

all sounds pretty similar to me. Some

52:51

moves a little bit more heavy

52:53

metal, like, oh, this is metal. There's

52:56

a double kick happening here. There

52:58

might be some screaming. And then you

53:00

kind of move into this thing where somebody's

53:03

a little bit more like this.

53:06

And it's like clean guitar and stuff. Oh,

53:08

I stubbed my toe. Do

53:13

you say English? Yeah,

53:15

I said the same thing that you said while

53:17

stubbing the toe. Oh, I stubbed my

53:19

toe. Oh, I stubbed my

53:21

toe. I just had to burn my hand. Oh,

53:24

I burned my hand. Yeah, on a teakettle.

53:26

On a teakettle. So-

53:29

Because I would think that they're like British. I'm not doing

53:32

justice. I'm not, they're not. He's a British kid. Some

53:34

of them are, a lot of them aren't. And the

53:36

thing is, is that, so

53:38

I was like, okay, well, I

53:40

know that there is a band that

53:45

is like a pretty like hardcore

53:48

metal band that

53:51

are mythical beasts. And I don't

53:54

wanna put them on blast. So I just

53:57

know that there's a hardcore metal band that are mythical

53:59

beasts. Come on, Blast. What do you mean by that? I

54:01

don't think you're using that right. I

54:04

probably are. I'm probably not. I don't want to put you guys

54:06

onto them. That is not what putting something on Blast means. I

54:10

don't want to call them out. I don't want to draw attention to it. Okay.

54:13

What does put on Blast mean?

54:14

I think that means that you're calling somebody out

54:16

in a negative way. Okay.

54:17

Right?

54:18

Yes. Well,

54:20

technically, by calling them out,

54:24

it would be potentially negative for them. I

54:26

don't want these two dads

54:28

to be like, this band likes us. Yeah. Because

54:31

I don't... Go over there and tell them

54:33

how much they suck. Because they have an image

54:35

to maintain. They can't be outed. I

54:38

love the fact that without saying who it

54:40

is, now there's probably a whole

54:43

bevy of these bands who think we're talking about

54:45

them. I hope so. Well, that's encouraging.

54:48

So, I

54:51

knew... and these dudes are like

54:53

super hardcore and dress

54:56

up in these ridiculous outfits.

55:00

Now don't use judgy terminology. I mean, they

55:02

just look. They look evil. Try again. They look

55:04

evil. They dress up in what? Interesting outfits.

55:07

Good. They look evil on purpose. Mm-hmm.

55:10

Right. So I was like, I'm

55:12

going to play these guys for Shepherd.

55:15

Oh. And I played it. And

55:18

now these guys have success.

55:22

They are successful. This is what they do for a living.

55:24

They're still doing it. They have hundreds

55:26

of thousands of monthly listeners, whatever. I

55:29

don't know who you're talking about, by the way, but go ahead. And

55:31

I play

55:35

it and he's like... he's kind of like listening

55:37

or whatever. He's like... The wheels

55:39

are turning. He can't like it. He's

55:42

like, it's a little too clean. A little

55:44

too clean. And what he meant by that

55:46

was they're too... Technically

55:48

good. Technically good. Too talented. Which

55:51

is a whole different... which opened up a whole different

55:53

avenue of conversation, because I was like... It

55:55

sounds like punk, though, what he's describing.

55:57

You know? It's like... It's more

55:59

about... It's broadly punk. It's more about

56:02

the energy and the ethos

56:04

and the execution. It's the ante of it But

56:06

you know because I was like oh, you know I

56:08

was with some friends recently when we were with our buddies in

56:10

Colorado and we started listening We listened to

56:12

so much music that weekend But we listened we

56:15

went on a like a little stint listening to like

56:17

very technical metal Which has never

56:19

been something that we're into right, but

56:22

when they kind of explain it to us that

56:24

ultimately Metal is

56:27

just nerds playing music to

56:30

be specific it is Musical

56:33

nerds who are really really technical Yeah

56:36

playing really really technical music time

56:38

time signature changes and all kinds of

56:41

things that are just technically hard to do And

56:43

hard to memorize and hard to keep

56:45

up with yeah, and he

56:48

like he we kind of connected on that level But

56:51

that's like the not cool form

56:53

of the thing that he's into right now, which is the like

56:57

You got to find the thing that nobody knows

56:59

about that your group of friends will like and then

57:01

you got to make sure that it Doesn't really get outside

57:04

of your group of friends because then it's

57:06

not cool anymore. Yeah Yeah,

57:09

and yeah, you don't want your favorite band to get

57:11

successful that whole principle, right?

57:15

So it's not necessarily a new phenomenon,

57:17

but the thing that's new for for me

57:20

is that he's actively

57:22

into something that I Actively

57:25

dislike and like I said, I'm

57:28

into that

57:31

Yeah with I never

57:34

had that with my kids with like Lily

57:37

or I mean Lando is

57:39

at a point where people are asking what kind of music you're

57:41

into and he's you know He's 13,

57:44

but he's like he's he's into

57:46

a lot of things but music

57:48

is not Like in

57:51

the

57:51

in the top ten of his list of

57:53

things that he's passionate about So he

57:56

doesn't have a quick answer for like I'm

57:58

into this type

57:59

of music

58:01

and then he's like, he started to feel bad about

58:03

it. I'm like, oh, I, you know, maybe I can,

58:05

you, I was like, but dude, you do,

58:07

you do like a lot of music. You know,

58:09

a lot of music, like all the music that we play

58:12

in the house from all types

58:14

of genres. Now they're

58:16

all my genres, right? So it's like, it's

58:18

kind of what you were saying that he,

58:20

he has this

58:22

foundation

58:23

of knowledge, but then he hasn't really

58:26

turned the corner. And I, I told him, I didn't

58:28

really turn the corner

58:29

in terms of like what I really

58:32

liked until you

58:34

know, around his age

58:35

or. And also you went through a phase

58:37

of not liking music. Right. That's

58:40

really important. Because part of the history. Yeah. Because

58:43

my step-t

58:54

set where there's like a little biography, you

58:56

can get Jenna to do it. You're gonna read it in

58:58

her storytelling voice. Okay. Yeah.

59:01

Yeah. Yeah. And

59:04

it's like once upon a time, Elkhown snuggle baby didn't

59:07

even like music. Like that was, it's

59:09

a great story. Oh yeah, like a little immersive.

59:12

Because his stepsister did. Biopic

59:15

moment. And then you can take some

59:18

liberties with the history. It

59:21

depends on how bad ass you want to seem. And

59:23

then he, you don't want

59:25

to say you killed your stepsister. You don't want to say anything

59:28

like that. Because that's not, you're not trying to go for that image.

59:30

But you took her music from

59:33

her. Right. And now she doesn't

59:35

like music and you do. We got to work on the specifics

59:37

of the story, but I'm just saying it's an option. Well,

59:40

I mean, my mom divorced

59:43

her dad. Yeah, that's the part we don't want. And

59:45

then I took. I don't want to bring that aside. And I

59:47

took music with me. Okay, well now you're talking. And

59:49

then the voice. Like we split things up. I got

59:51

the music. And DJ Elkown Snugglebaby

59:54

got the music. He

59:56

does not talk to her anymore because she

59:58

doesn't have the music.

1:01:15

I

1:02:02

gave him a primer on Freddie Gibbs to get

1:02:04

him ready for the show and He

1:02:07

was like talking about which songs he liked it Like, you know, I actually

1:02:09

knew some of these and then he like had a great time at the show

1:02:11

He told me all about it showed me the videos that he

1:02:13

took and then the next day we're walking

1:02:16

around town and

1:02:18

Lincoln goes I just I wasn't

1:02:21

he was walking with Christy and Lando

1:02:23

and I heard it he turned around and he said Freddie

1:02:26

Gibbs and then I turned around

1:02:28

and there he was I was walking down the street and

1:02:31

I like I went right up to him. I gave him some

1:02:33

dap. I Gave him some dap,

1:02:36

but you didn't get a picture I regret

1:02:38

that I did not I I feel like I could

1:02:40

have got a lot of clout from a Selfie

1:02:42

with Freddie Gibbs. Yeah So

1:02:45

I'm gonna I'm kicking myself

1:02:49

Yeah, cuz I really

1:02:51

would have liked that But

1:02:55

I

1:02:57

Don't want to glamorize

1:02:59

You know dealing the powder,

1:03:02

you know, that's a factor, you know, I don't

1:03:04

want to endorse Any

1:03:06

any of the cocaine game? Is

1:03:09

that what he raps about? Yeah

1:03:11

So I got I got basher Lee. He raps

1:03:13

about that. He was Yeah,

1:03:16

you seem surprised hip-hop

1:03:19

I

1:03:19

Mean,

1:03:20

come on. Okay,

1:03:21

give her the program Okay,

1:03:24

I don't make me put you on blast. It's hard to rhyme with

1:03:26

fentanyl Yeah, it's hard to

1:03:28

rhyme with fentanyl. Yeah, it probably doesn't

1:03:30

include that but uh You

1:03:33

know, maybe he's just playing a character. I

1:03:35

don't know this guy's personal life. I just really

1:03:37

like I like his style Yeah,

1:03:41

well and I think that I like his vocal style So

1:03:44

if I'm a huge fan if you have to choose next time

1:03:46

I'll do it I'll get a selfie if you have to

1:03:48

choose one thing

1:03:52

Connecting with your kids Oh Over

1:03:55

something is definitely I'm glad I have that

1:03:59

like if you have to yeah

1:03:59

Choose one, you want that. You don't want the thing

1:04:02

where you're disconnected. Right.

1:04:05

It's just, I was kind of waiting,

1:04:08

because I was like, you know,

1:04:10

it was like something we had. Like you've

1:04:12

got the things where like, oh, my parents' music means

1:04:14

a lot to me. I still like all, Merle

1:04:17

Hagger's my favorite artist of all time, and it's only because

1:04:19

of my dad. Right, and the Lionel Richie obsession,

1:04:22

for me, started with my mom. And

1:04:24

I think that,

1:04:26

like that's a beautiful thing. But

1:04:29

then, yeah, we had those things that like, you

1:04:32

know, at our house, we're constantly playing

1:04:34

music. Gotta have your own stuff. Right, and

1:04:37

there is the music that we all agree

1:04:39

on, and it spans a lot

1:04:41

of genres. We play a lot of music. But

1:04:44

then when Shepherd starts playing

1:04:46

his music in this little bubble

1:04:48

now that he's found. Yeah. It's

1:04:50

like, turn that off. Like I like having

1:04:53

the, Yeah, you got it. I don't want to listen to that. Yeah.

1:04:55

Dad moment, because I feel like it's just this formative

1:04:58

thing. But

1:05:00

it's like, we had a place, we were in the 311. And

1:05:04

if I had have been playing, if you're playing 311

1:05:06

in your room too loud, you

1:05:08

need your dad to tell you to turn it off. Yeah. You

1:05:11

need that moment. Yeah, you gotta fight for your right

1:05:13

to party, man. My mom threw away

1:05:15

my best porno mag. Yep,

1:05:18

yep, right. See, there has to be

1:05:20

some opposition. Porn, you know,

1:05:23

they'll probably find that on their own swell, but that's not

1:05:25

what I'm just talking. That's not what I'm talking about.

1:05:27

Quoting the Beastie Boys, that's

1:05:29

all I'm doing. You

1:05:32

gotta fight for your right to party.

1:05:35

Right, yeah. You can't show up

1:05:37

at the party and your dad's there. Yeah,

1:05:40

yeah, yeah. You know? Right. Lincoln

1:05:42

likes a different form of hip hop

1:05:44

than I do.

1:05:45

Lily loves David

1:05:48

Bowie. I like the idea

1:05:50

of David Bowie, but I'm not a fan of, I'm

1:05:53

not a fan of music. Why don't you sit down and listen to him, it's gonna be

1:05:55

hard to fully commit. Yeah, it's not for me. Yeah. I'm

1:06:00

kind of bred at heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:06:03

I have something, just a quick thing to

1:06:06

land us here. Okay. I

1:06:08

know you don't like it when I ask you numbers

1:06:11

questions, but I'm not gonna talk about how long

1:06:13

you think a quickie is. Nothing sexual at all. Okay.

1:06:16

I mean, we could probably find a way to make this sexual as we always do, but... We're

1:06:21

human. What do you think... I

1:06:23

want you to understand and want you

1:06:26

to know that the world

1:06:28

record for stacking

1:06:31

watermelons on top of each other was

1:06:33

recently set. How

1:06:37

many do you think it was?

1:06:40

Well first of all, how do you... We're

1:06:42

talking nose to tail, or

1:06:44

are we talking side to side? Horizontal

1:06:47

or vertical? A single stack

1:06:49

of watermelons on top of each other. Well, yeah,

1:06:51

but are the watermelons... Are

1:06:53

oriented vertically. Yeah, well how

1:06:56

else would you stack watermelons? Because that's where the

1:06:58

vine comes off and... It creates a little bit of

1:07:00

a base, and if you get enough of them that are flat

1:07:02

in that part, I imagine. You

1:07:04

can't stack them like this, because they're gonna just roll off.

1:07:06

It's just two convex surfaces on top of each

1:07:09

other. Well, a lot of them grow in a patch,

1:07:11

and there's a flatter side. And

1:07:14

I'm not talking about those square... You know

1:07:16

how you can force a watermelon to grow as a cube? Yeah.

1:07:19

Free grown watermelons.

1:07:23

And

1:07:26

then I guess they have to be of a certain size

1:07:29

to count.

1:07:31

Are they like

1:07:33

little pumpkin size? They're this

1:07:36

big. Oh crap, they're like big ones.

1:07:39

One, two...

1:07:41

I mean three seems like it would

1:07:43

be really tough, but if you have

1:07:45

your pick of the litter, and

1:07:48

this is a world record... World record.

1:07:56

Which sounds crazy to me. It sounds crazy.

1:07:58

It sounds crazy. You

1:08:01

were actually much closer when you said three.

1:08:04

It's four. It's four. Really?

1:08:07

Four? Yes.

1:08:11

Well, the door is wide open,

1:08:13

y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the reason it's four

1:08:16

is there's a guy in Iran. I'm

1:08:19

going to try to say, Rahala Dashmanziyari.

1:08:22

Okay. And he

1:08:25

has stacked melons. Four? He

1:08:27

has stacked melons his entire life.

1:08:29

Like, he's just kind of like, yeah, I stack melons.

1:08:32

But he's never gotten past four? Well,

1:08:35

the Guinness requirements

1:08:38

for melon stacking, they won't even begin

1:08:40

to consider it until you get to four. If

1:08:43

you want to stack melons for a world record, you've

1:08:45

got to get to four before they even pick up the phone. Okay.

1:08:48

And so he just got to four and just gave him the world

1:08:50

record. Because three is not a stack. Three

1:08:52

is a what? Well, three is a stack,

1:08:54

but it's... A grouping? A vertical grouping?

1:08:57

If you make three... First of all, I

1:08:59

think the level of difficulty between three and

1:09:01

four... Must be. ...is like these

1:09:03

people, this is what they do. They get

1:09:05

paid to record world records. They're

1:09:08

like, yeah, stacking, it got to be four. Melons?

1:09:10

Four. But it, you know,

1:09:13

it'll be 17 within a couple of years now. 17 is...

1:09:16

Now that we put them on blast? 17. Yeah,

1:09:19

see, it makes sense to say it the way that I

1:09:21

was saying it. Blast them out like they're a megaphone. I

1:09:23

understand. But

1:09:27

I don't know. It just feels like I don't want to... This

1:09:29

man's a melon stacker. He's a melon

1:09:31

stacker. I don't want to take that from him. But

1:09:34

I'm just letting you know if you're a melon stacker, the record's

1:09:36

four... It's there for the taking. It feels like somebody

1:09:38

could get to five. We wouldn't do it. We're not that

1:09:40

type of people. But if you want to swoop in and

1:09:43

steal his record... Four.

1:09:46

I'm thinking you're going to have to go more than five. I think you're

1:09:48

going to have to go for at least 12. Well, if you go to five

1:09:50

and make a phone call, you'll get in the papers. In

1:09:53

the papers. Yeah. You might

1:09:55

get on bananas. Okay,

1:09:58

yeah. Keep pushing it. We'll definitely

1:10:00

put that on bananas. If you stack

1:10:02

five melons, even if the Guinness people won't call

1:10:04

you back, bananas will put you on the front, peel.

1:10:09

You want bananas to be an alternative

1:10:11

world record certification? I'm opening

1:10:13

anything. We can undercut Guinness. I think

1:10:15

it's whatever the most interesting thing is of the

1:10:18

day is on bananas. And if somebody stacks five melons,

1:10:20

that might be it. The world record

1:10:22

for banana stacking, sorry.

1:10:25

All right, you got a wreck for us? I do. This

1:10:28

is another hot sauce, Rhett. This is

1:10:31

a hot sauce that you've

1:10:33

all had, but I recently

1:10:36

got some more of it. I

1:10:38

have a lot of hot sauces at my house.

1:10:42

I have determined that if you're going for the Louisiana

1:10:45

style hot sauce.

1:10:47

Put on fried chicken? That goes well on fried

1:10:50

chicken.

1:10:52

There's the best one.

1:10:54

It's crystal.

1:10:57

Crystal.

1:10:58

And that's accessible. Not with a K though.

1:11:01

Nope, it's not the little burgers. It's crystal

1:11:04

with a C. And if you're in the

1:11:06

mood, get extra hot, it's great.

1:11:09

So I've been, as you know. Because

1:11:11

I bought the one that has like a, I thought it had

1:11:14

a form of a chicken on it. Some

1:11:17

sort of, it said Louisiana hot sauce and then when

1:11:19

I got it home, I was like, this is not it, this

1:11:21

is not.

1:11:22

Well, the

1:11:25

reason I was figuring out what it should

1:11:27

be is as you know, I've got to

1:11:29

make my hot chicken sandwiches

1:11:31

for something. Oh, mm-hmm. And

1:11:35

I usually just kind of, for

1:11:37

the hot sauce part, it's kind of

1:11:39

an incidental ingredient in my hot

1:11:42

chicken sandwiches because I make my own sauce

1:11:45

out of the hot oil and cayenne pepper. But

1:11:49

hot sauce is a part of it. And usually it's just like, oh, I've got

1:11:51

some Texas Pete. And listen, I like Texas Pete,

1:11:54

Winston-Salem, North Carolina. But

1:11:56

crystal's the one. But side by side,

1:11:58

crystal's the one. If you...

1:11:59

So, you know, if you like some- Does it say Louisiana

1:12:02

hot sauce on it? Yeah, it does. Okay,

1:12:04

all right. It's a specific flavor

1:12:07

profile for hot sauce that Louisiana style is

1:12:09

growing. Louisiana.

1:12:12

And the thing that I recommended

1:12:14

that, like the South American more

1:12:16

like getting into the habanero that Marie Sharps, I

1:12:18

still gotta have that, but they don't go on the same

1:12:20

things. You don't wanna put Marie Sharps

1:12:23

on a hot chicken sandwich because it's

1:12:25

got some other stuff going on that sends it in a different

1:12:27

direction. What do you think about the truffle

1:12:29

hot sauce? Truff. I

1:12:31

have some. I've really gotten

1:12:34

into that. I like it, but I have to be

1:12:36

really careful about

1:12:38

what I put it on because

1:12:41

it's great on something like eggs because

1:12:44

eggs are not a- Bland. They're not a

1:12:46

dish that is trying to, there's not other things

1:12:48

happening flavor wise that you're trying to compliment

1:12:50

because once you put truffle on something, it becomes a truffle

1:12:53

dish. Yeah.

1:12:54

I went on a truffle kick and I'm coming

1:12:57

out of it now. I found my way out,

1:12:59

but I do have two bottles now. I have the white bottle

1:13:01

and the black bottle, which

1:13:04

is unusual for me.

1:13:06

Where do you keep it? Fridge it? Fridge

1:13:08

it. Apparently now we're supposed to fridge everything.

1:13:11

Like I got upset

1:13:14

a few weeks ago because

1:13:16

Christy had pulled

1:13:19

Lando into this like research on like

1:13:21

where to keep your hot sauces and then the answer

1:13:23

was in the fridge and I was just upset,

1:13:25

it upset me. Yeah. It

1:13:28

upset me because now

1:13:29

we've got a big ass bottle of Valentina,

1:13:33

like Lando was searching for weeks for Valentina,

1:13:35

that's his sauce. Good sauce.

1:13:38

And it's like a Mexican hot sauce. It's hard to find

1:13:40

and it's mild. He likes it better

1:13:42

than Tapatio. Yeah.

1:13:45

Oh yeah, Tapatio. I do not like Tapatio at

1:13:47

all. It's grainy. You like Cholula

1:13:50

though? Cholula, yes. But you like Valentina

1:13:52

better. Yeah, big ass bottle,

1:13:54

we got the Cholula, we've got the Truff,

1:13:57

all of it's now taking up all this

1:13:59

space in the fridge. I'm like knocking

1:14:01

over bottles of shit just to try to get

1:14:03

to the milk. And

1:14:06

I don't buy it. I don't buy

1:14:08

it. And then when

1:14:10

you put the sauce on it, it's cold. I

1:14:13

don't want my sauce to be refrigerator

1:14:15

cold either. Do you? No. No,

1:14:18

you want it to be room temperature. You don't want

1:14:20

cold hot sauce. When the first ingredient in

1:14:22

something is vinegar or peppers, I

1:14:25

don't refrigerate it. Why do I have to? I

1:14:29

could put little creatures in there.

1:14:31

I could preserve things in there. It's like

1:14:33

formaldehyde. I don't know.

1:14:38

You want to search it? You

1:14:40

know what? Let us know. Hashtag Ear

1:14:43

Biscuits. Let us know if we're crazy. Because

1:14:46

I'm feeling like I'm going to go home and put my foot down.

1:14:49

And usually when that happens, nothing

1:14:51

happens.

1:14:53

It's like my

1:14:55

foot was higher and then it got lower. That's really

1:14:57

the only observable difference in me

1:15:00

putting my foot down. Put all your feet and all

1:15:02

your hands down. Get on all fours and then say something

1:15:04

as a dad. So are

1:15:06

you with me? Are you with us?

1:15:08

Are you against us? 1-888-EER-POD-1.

1:15:13

Thanks for hanging out long enough to

1:15:17

get that. And you know what? I

1:15:19

understand. I understand it's

1:15:21

frustrating. You know what? I'm going

1:15:23

to get better at when you move

1:15:25

on to the next thing. I

1:15:30

will make a concerted effort. You

1:15:32

don't have to not move on. We've been through this before.

1:15:35

No, no. I'm saying you don't have

1:15:37

to move on if I move on. It's just

1:15:40

wait till I stop talking to bring us back. I

1:15:43

understand. I understand. It's

1:15:45

the dynamic we talked about before. And

1:15:47

I think it's,

1:15:48

you know, because we're moving through more things

1:15:52

on the show, I think it's coming back

1:15:54

to roost. So

1:15:57

it's getting reacquainted with it. So I just want to be on

1:15:59

record and say I feel good.

1:15:59

I understand

1:16:02

the frustration. I'm not doing it on purpose,

1:16:06

but I will purposely do it less not purpose.

1:16:10

And if you have any more thoughts about it,

1:16:12

you can call me at 1-888-EAR-POD-1. Okay,

1:16:18

hi, my name's Cole. I

1:16:21

am from Detroit, Michigan. And I just

1:16:24

listened to the episode

1:16:26

from this week, the thoughts on unruly kids

1:16:29

in restaurants. And I just want to say

1:16:31

that I fully support Link's opinion

1:16:34

about the tablets. I

1:16:36

mean, granted, I'm 22 and I haven't had kids, so

1:16:38

I can't really say anything about

1:16:40

it. But, um,

1:16:42

I don't know about those tablets, you

1:16:45

know, as a person that grew up with a lot of technology,

1:16:47

I don't know about those tablets. I think they're stunting

1:16:49

some social things. Okay,

1:16:52

that's pretty much it. Alright, love you guys, appreciate

1:16:54

ya. Have fun, be safe,

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