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to, oh. What

0:40

is happening to my voice? Okay.

0:42

Wow, it's not like I wasn't just

0:44

talking. Yes. The second before.

0:46

Literally just started talking. Welcome to,

0:48

what was it? It wasn't a. I don't

0:50

know, man. I think there was something in

0:52

there. I hope we kept it though. Something

0:54

was lodged in my throat that

0:57

I didn't know was there until

0:59

I started recording. Two Ear

1:01

Biscuits, the podcast where two lifelong friends

1:03

talk about life for a long time.

1:07

I'm choking apparently. And I'm Rhett and

1:09

this week at the round table of

1:11

them lighting, we're gonna be hearing about

1:14

what may have caused your voice

1:16

to sound that way. Ironically, I feel

1:19

like I've got some reasons for my voice to sound

1:22

a little crackly, even though it doesn't really. Based

1:26

on my experiences that I've had since

1:28

you've been gone. I've been gone for

1:30

a week and

1:32

I've got two trips to show

1:34

for it, two totally separate trips.

1:37

Feels like I've been gone a lifetime. So good

1:40

to be back. You really took advantage of your spring

1:42

break. Of my. Your son's spring break. Of

1:44

my son's spring break. Half the time without

1:46

him, yeah. So yeah, I went to Yosemite

1:51

with Christy and Lando. And

1:53

then when we got back, I went

1:55

on a solo boarding trip.

2:00

solo snowboarding trip to

2:03

Utah. I'm interested to hear how

2:05

that, how solo travel went

2:09

for you. You

2:11

made it back. I'll tell you all about it.

2:14

I did make it back. I'm a bit toyered. I'm

2:16

a bit, I'm a bit spanked. I

2:18

often went to a wedding

2:21

last night. I went to GMM

2:23

segment producer Katrina's wedding. I

2:25

know you couldn't make it.

2:27

So I represented the bosses

2:30

at this wedding at the Houdini estate,

2:32

you know, the place where there's

2:35

this place in the hills of we've been there before the

2:38

hills of Hollywood

2:40

system owned by Houdini

2:43

the state once owned by Houdini the

2:45

man before he got punched

2:47

in the belly enough that he like died

2:50

of appendicitis. Some

2:52

like that. So it's

2:54

quite a place. It's a cool there's grounds

2:57

and it's like multiple levels. You got to

2:59

walk up a lot of steps and there's

3:01

different terraces and then there's like this

3:03

house and then if you walk around the

3:06

right way you can see this old pool

3:08

and there's pictures in the bathroom of Houdini

3:10

himself diving into the pool and then the

3:13

way that Houdini dives into a pool is

3:15

very Houdini esque at least

3:17

according to this one picture. He disappears in the

3:19

middle of his his well he's

3:21

he's handcuffed. No he wasn't his

3:24

hands are just down by his side and

3:26

he's like bullet what kind of is that what

3:28

kind of dive is that called when you dive

3:30

in headfirst like literally headfirst

3:32

your hands are like down by your

3:35

your your thighs. I love it. I

3:38

love it dive. The bullet is what I'm calling

3:40

it. I don't know. I'm

3:43

sure there is a name for it. But

3:46

of course that's how Houdini would dive into his pool. You don't

3:48

know if he put his hands out of the last second. I

3:50

think he probably knew that it would be a great picture. Is

3:52

he literally about to break water? He seemed like he was about

3:54

to break water. I don't know. I mean it

3:56

can be done. You have to be

3:58

a little tough and Houdini was... tough, if anything.

4:01

There was also apparently a tunnel that

4:03

went from his estate under the

4:05

road to the

4:07

other side of the road

4:09

to his mistress's house. It's

4:11

since been sealed, is what we were

4:13

told. I don't know if

4:16

last time I went to the Houdini estate, we

4:18

tried to walk around and there's

4:21

only so many places you can go. Did you

4:23

get further this time? No, I got even less

4:25

far this time. But I did,

4:28

I drank more than I intended.

4:31

And I'm

4:34

not hungover right now, even though this is

4:36

the morning after. But I did wake up

4:39

at, I think I went to bed at 9.45 or

4:43

10 o'clock. We didn't stay

4:45

till the wedding was over. I mean, I have a

4:47

podcast to do. I got to bring my best for

4:49

my work. How many drinks did you have? Well,

4:53

I had

4:56

a shot because I was getting a

4:58

drink. Well,

5:01

when you first walk in, they have a drink. And

5:04

this was before the ceremony. So I had a

5:06

drink. Then we had the ceremony, then we go

5:08

upstairs and they're handing you another drink on the

5:11

way up the stairs. So I had another drink.

5:13

Two. But those didn't count, I didn't think.

5:15

This was already more than...

5:17

More than Link needs. More

5:20

than Link needs. More than

5:22

Link wants, really. I

5:24

just didn't think. Well, I'm going upstairs and

5:27

they're handing me a drink. Yeah, it doesn't count.

5:29

It didn't seem like it counted. And

5:31

then after we go, we're

5:33

waiting for the dinner. And then Christy's like, you

5:35

know what? I think I will have a drink

5:37

if you want to get me one. I was

5:39

like, well, okay. So I go out to the

5:41

bar to get a drink. And then Nicole's husband's

5:43

out there talking about taking shots. What

5:46

the hell? I

5:48

got wrangled under that. The thing

5:50

they poured was not a shot. It was like...

5:52

It was bigger. It was bigger. Okay.

5:55

Three and a half. But

5:57

you know, it was a group of... I

6:00

was with mythical people and I just felt like I

6:02

need to be part of it. Be part of the guy

6:04

that doesn't take a shot. So that didn't count. Unless you're

6:06

like sober. Right, right, right. And I'm

6:08

not apparently. And

6:11

then I then Christy was like,

6:13

where are you? I was like, well, I was out

6:15

here taking a shot. And so she came out to

6:18

me and found her drink. And so then I drank

6:20

my drink, which

6:22

was four and a half. Yeah.

6:26

Oh, yeah, that's way too many for Link. Too many for

6:28

Link. And then we sat

6:30

down to dinner and there's wine. Oh,

6:32

no. And I

6:34

really wasn't, I hadn't kept

6:36

track. Well the body keeps the score, Link. Yeah,

6:39

45. Listen, I've told myself

6:42

that I don't drink anymore. I

6:44

don't drink at all because. Yeah, I'm so

6:46

surprised. I had this stomach problem. Yep. And

6:49

like. Hold on, but did that happen? It

6:52

didn't happen. Okay, maybe you're past that. Maybe,

6:54

yeah, maybe. Maybe it's the drinking that cured it.

6:57

No. I took a break from drinking

6:59

and then everything kind of healed up. And

7:03

then. How did you not get hung over for

7:05

it? Because typically this would hang you way over.

7:09

Well, I don't think I

7:11

got drunk, but then at the table, Christy,

7:14

I mean, there was

7:18

a jar on the

7:20

table and it turns

7:23

out that you could write marriage advice in the

7:25

jar. And the person sitting

7:27

across from us, I was sitting at the table

7:29

with people I didn't know because I asked Katrina

7:31

to put me at a table with people I didn't

7:33

know. Don't put me at a mythical table because nobody

7:36

wants to sit with their boss at

7:38

a party is what I told her. So she

7:40

put me at another table. Okay. That's

7:42

interesting. Which I thought was a

7:45

favor. She honored your request. Yeah, she did.

7:48

So the couple sitting across

7:50

from us, she said, yeah, I already put some

7:52

advice in there. You're not married, but

7:54

I said, I'm not married, but as

7:57

long as you're happy. Stay

8:00

in it. Oh. And I

8:02

was like, what? Oh, this is shit advice. Rip

8:05

that shit up. And you know what I

8:07

said? That shit advice. And

8:09

I reached into thing and I pulled it out and

8:12

I was like, I'm gonna have to- That's somebody who

8:14

hasn't been married. I know. Yeah,

8:16

yeah, yeah. And so, I guess it

8:18

was maybe because I had had a few drinks. But

8:21

no, it's because you're Link. Yeah, and

8:23

I was like, this can't go on the jar

8:25

unless I write on the other side of it

8:27

something else. And

8:30

I actually think that she didn't take the joke

8:32

that well. Well, I'm not joking. Oh,

8:34

I wasn't either. I

8:42

mean, there's certain reasons to

8:44

get out of a marriage. But

8:49

the bar can't be that low. No. Yeah,

8:52

yeah, yeah. I mean, we're not gonna turn this into a

8:54

relationship episode. And I'm not going

8:56

to even expand- I love the fact that you're just

8:58

as triggered as I was. I'm not even gonna ever

9:01

pound on it. But if you don't know why, as

9:04

long as you're happy, stay in it

9:06

is shit marriage advice. You

9:08

need to just do a little living or research or something.

9:10

I'm not gonna help you with that. You should just not

9:12

get married. I'm not gonna help you connect the dots. My

9:16

advice is don't get married. And

9:20

she wasn't. But her

9:22

partner was there, her boyfriend or something.

9:24

And I was like, wow. Good

9:28

luck. There were llamas at the wedding. Oh,

9:31

is that a Houdini thing or is that a Katrina

9:33

thing? That was a Katrina thing. The things got access

9:35

to llamas? I'm just finding out. Well,

9:38

her dog- Is a llama. No, her

9:40

dog was there. I can't remember

9:42

her dog's name right now, but her dog's been around the office.

9:45

And her dog was in

9:48

the wedding. Ring

9:50

bearer. Well, there were two ring bearer boys, but

9:52

then after that there was the dog. It was

9:54

just the dog. The dog played the

9:56

dog in the wedding. I know Katrina's dog. The dog came down the

9:58

aisle. Mia Mia.

10:00

Yes, Mia came down the aisle

10:03

and then did what well

10:06

then went to somebody Oh

10:08

just came down the island. It didn't didn't have wasn't a service

10:11

dog. It wasn't doing anything. It was

10:13

just coming down the aisle No,

10:16

Mia is not a service dog, but Mia was

10:18

also not provided in the context of the wedding

10:21

She was not a service dog. This is the wedding. I don't

10:23

mean an official service. Yeah Yeah,

10:25

okay I love when dogs are

10:27

in weddings. She but where the llamas

10:30

come in. Yeah, the llamas came in later.

10:32

There was a It was

10:34

a brown and a white lamba lamba And

10:38

uh, I'm still drunk And

10:40

um, they were dressed like a bride and groom

10:43

and they were walking around with a bride and groom At

10:46

the uh after the wedding. Yeah, people took

10:48

pictures. You're making this up. No, man. No

10:52

And they were shorn In

10:54

such a way they were very cutely shorn But

10:56

it was kind of cold and I think they

10:58

got cold so they went away after a while

11:00

But people got pictures. I think llamas can take

11:02

the cold. They're like from peru or something. No,

11:04

they're they're alpacas Alpacas

11:07

have curly hair on the ears and

11:09

um llamas have um Straight

11:13

hair on their ears. I think they can still take it Well,

11:16

they were shorn. That's why i'm telling you if they weren't shorn they could

11:18

have taken it but one of them seemed to be shivering Why

11:21

am I talking about this because i'm not

11:23

hungover but at

11:26

Midnight, I woke up

11:29

in severe pain. Oh, what kind head

11:31

pain? Like I went

11:33

to bed with a little bit of a headache. You

11:35

didn't take ibuprofen preventatively. I didn't and that was dumb

11:37

You got to do that. So I woke up It's

11:40

just not a good feeling I

11:42

woke up. I took some I

11:45

went back to sleep. I woke up good in

11:47

the morning. So did you uh,

11:50

That's a good thing about turning in or you

11:52

look at your readiness score Now

11:54

see how it got impacted because sometimes I'd

11:57

be really interested to see how your readiness score

11:59

was impacted. By alcohol and what your age

12:01

or v did I mean I get already have

12:03

low wage I several were do her I know

12:05

I have low hiv but if i drink. It

12:08

goes into the teens. Okay,

12:12

but he has four and a half drinks

12:14

and your Hiv is typically free. Hi based

12:16

on what I saw. To

12:18

working. With.

12:20

Up dating sites. You.

12:23

Reading his his own i'm Iran great. I'm

12:25

going by the book. Seems like you've been. This is.

12:28

Not. Sponsor Whoring you know and you see this

12:30

app and it tells you use his costs. Seems

12:32

like even getting the right amount of sleep. Layla

12:34

good sleep. How does he look? Already know? Still

12:37

here. Reading. Another he straight

12:39

to and maybe I should drink and your

12:41

hr he's eighty five. how do you are

12:43

you? Such good health? I

12:45

don't worry about it, I think it a thing

12:47

as was bringing you down brought. Now.

12:51

Click on it rip. They listen. I

12:53

have this app. I never look at it. You're.

12:55

The only time I look at this app. That.

12:57

Light tells me everything that my ring is measuring

13:00

is when Ret asked me to pull it up

13:02

so he can look at it and compare himself

13:04

the Me I'd does. I mean I feel like

13:06

that's the only reason I have this rain. Bloody.

13:10

Good at verse yeah or jesse? gotta for

13:12

me. Because. She's a hard about as

13:14

you know it like it a habit so that you

13:16

can I oh how I had only and I will

13:19

say I was in which you can do you can

13:21

share your vitals. In fact Christie I were going to

13:23

start sharing our by a delicacy also cares about it.

13:26

But. Then we both decided that was not your health I

13:28

don't look at. I, honestly, I don't look at it

13:30

absurdly, but one of the things that I've observed. And

13:32

then. I. Have actually visited the sub

13:34

reddit The Whoring Sub Reddit. And. People

13:36

elect talk about like look at the impact

13:38

the alcohol has all my age Rv and

13:40

I noticed it too. like two drinks it'll

13:42

send it way down. Is. He

13:44

he has no impact on you. To.

13:47

You she planted be drinking like a fish.

13:49

had a headache and a man faces wrinkly

13:51

Must I feel older today and say forty

13:53

eight shillings today. As

13:56

a I raise more than that. Aged

14:00

That I tweeted about this how much

14:02

I felt like I aged on. A

14:06

few nights ago. so. Here's the

14:09

thing. With. This release is on

14:11

April eighth. There's approximately

14:13

a to to. I would say a

14:15

two percent chance. Okay, based on where

14:17

I stand right now looking into the

14:19

future, a two percent chance that today.

14:22

Nc State is playing in the

14:24

National championship that we've continued are

14:26

incredible run right now as I

14:28

record this we just got into

14:31

the sweet sixteen. We've won a

14:33

Cc championship. After. Losing like

14:35

a bunch against the end of the season

14:37

everyone given up people thought the coaches are

14:39

going to fight, get fired and is dissing

14:41

Crazy improbable run. That you

14:44

know, statistically speaking. You

14:47

know likelihood is that the runway and before

14:49

the before we get to the and fire.

14:52

Who knows though. But you're saying get us

14:54

to get a belief. If

14:56

they. If the two percent happens.

14:59

And. Then we are in Phoenix right now. We.

15:02

Will rearrange our schedules T v the final four

15:04

if is is a mix of the final four

15:06

Mb that doesn't happen that hasn't happened in a

15:08

lot of times and might not happen again. For

15:10

a law I'm just afraid to. Why do we

15:12

do Now knowing it is, I think I would

15:14

be the reason that we would Luna. We should

15:16

he be. Talk about it. Because.

15:19

It's It's so improbable that we are here

15:21

already. That. Were already at

15:23

like miracle status in my mind. So.

15:26

Because we're already a miracle status,

15:28

it feels like anything is possible.

15:31

But. We have a lot. There's a

15:33

bunch of really good teams in between us

15:35

and that that are teams that are definitively

15:37

better than us that we will have to

15:39

somehow beat. Have you noticed something? That.

15:43

I've noticed in two totally

15:45

separate instances about. March

15:48

Madness and people who don't care

15:51

about it and aren't really acquainted

15:53

with it. They

15:55

call it. the madness

16:00

I haven't heard it. Okay. I'm

16:02

glad I haven't. So, when the

16:04

ACC, when they were in the

16:06

ACC tournament, in the championship, you know, we were

16:09

talking to our friend Lou, and you were telling

16:11

him about how, like, states in

16:13

the ACC tournament, and he was like, it's,

16:16

Stake can win the ACC tournament

16:18

tonight. And he said, oh,

16:21

is that the madness? He

16:23

said that. And that was the first time I've ever heard

16:25

anybody say that. Now, he's not a sports guy. Yeah.

16:28

He's a music guy. I

16:31

just kind of like chuckled to myself. But, you

16:34

know, if not for my upbringing, I would be

16:36

calling it the madness too, given my current stage

16:39

in life of not being a sports person.

16:42

But then,

16:45

when I'm in Park City, I

16:48

was getting a drink at a bar, and

16:51

there was a game wrapping up.

16:55

And there was this woman, and she was like, she was happy,

16:57

and they had just won. It was

16:59

like, Colorado had won the game. And

17:02

I was like, did

17:05

your team win? And she

17:08

said, yeah, and I just thought I would come

17:10

down here to watch the madness. Well,

17:12

that, okay. And she- That

17:14

feels somewhat more acceptable. But

17:17

she wasn't saying it in the way that you think is more

17:20

acceptable. She was saying it in the way that, like, I

17:22

wanted to be a part of the madness. I

17:24

wanted to watch the madness. Like,

17:27

that's what it is. Is this the thing

17:29

now? Is that what people

17:32

are calling it, the madness? Now,

17:34

it is definitely

17:36

possible that they're saying that, like, on the

17:38

broadcast now, but it's completely gone over my

17:41

head if they are. Well,

17:43

I've heard it twice from people who don't know what

17:45

they're talking about. The madness. The madness. I

17:48

think it's just the telltale sign. Because

17:52

I was like, who is your team? She

17:55

was like, Colorado, who did they beat? And she was

17:59

like- And she couldn't- I couldn't remember and it had

18:01

just happened. Like the game was

18:03

still on. Well it's madness man, who

18:05

knows what's happening? It's impossible

18:07

to keep up with it. I was like, and then I

18:09

thought to myself, well she called it the madness and she

18:11

doesn't remember who they were playing even though like

18:15

they're walking off the court right now. And then

18:17

she left and I was like, well okay. Well

18:20

as you can imagine, I am

18:23

fully invested in the madness and

18:25

I would

18:27

be watching casually if NC State wasn't playing.

18:34

But let's talk about, we had to talk

18:36

about that night they played the NC Championship.

18:38

Yeah it's hilarious. So again, if you

18:40

don't care about sports, just

18:43

try to continue listening just to, out

18:48

of like a anthropological

18:51

fascination factor, right? Just

18:54

pretend I'm from a different culture and

18:56

I'm telling you about my customs and

18:58

you're just out of an interest factor, you're like, this

19:01

is fascinating, I don't understand why he cares. Right.

19:04

You know? This is not just

19:06

a story about sports. Just be culturally sensitive

19:09

to this straight white dude talking about

19:11

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stone comm slash ear today um

22:32

so NC State I

22:35

love them. I'm addicted to watching NC State

22:37

sports because I've never

22:39

been able to shake my interest even

22:41

though I Can recognize

22:43

the irrationality and caring about this thing that at this point?

22:45

I don't have a lot of impact however. We got more

22:48

impact. We got a scholarship in NC State now link Yeah,

22:51

the Rhett and Link engineering innovation

22:53

scholarship or something like that and

22:55

athleticism Can we add

22:57

athletic well? No it's about innovation and

22:59

engineering and the arts and things but

23:02

what does that mean? I don't know we'll find out

23:04

you know no no encouraging creativity Hold on don't act

23:06

like you don't know what it means we came up

23:09

with it And we decided no but like the specifics

23:11

of what it means when you award the scholarship I

23:14

think it's like you know we'll see

23:16

who gets it right, but there's like an intersection

23:18

in creativity and engineering Yeah, because that's you know

23:20

we've got engineering degrees We do something in the

23:22

arts if you want to call what we do

23:25

in the arts. I believe it is and So

23:28

we wanted to you know find other people

23:30

who have this technical Or

23:33

technically or something something technical either want to

23:35

apply it to something innovative and artistic or

23:37

they just have artistic interest or whatever And

23:39

yeah, we haven't even looked we had we

23:41

haven't even received any applicants because we

23:43

just announced it But yeah, so

23:45

anyway now we have we have some we've got some

23:48

skin in the game. Yeah literally

23:51

in the game so Stay

23:54

had a really bad end of the season great

23:56

start to the season and then bad into

23:58

the regular season lost a bunch of games in a

24:00

row and it was just literally like people were like

24:03

I think this might be Kevin Keith's last year I'm

24:05

gonna buy him out and You

24:08

know, it's as a somebody's been a state

24:10

fan for Since I went to

24:12

I actually was in a state fan until I went to school there

24:14

It's a Duke fan when I was a kid because we

24:16

moved from somewhere else and it just picked the team I

24:19

thought was the best It was

24:21

smart. Yeah But

24:24

then wolf pack experience is kind of like it's

24:27

very familiar so yeah Yeah, we're just used

24:29

to and I've been out for

24:31

too much too much disappointment and Not

24:34

enough interest in sports. I was out yours

24:36

But the thing is is that state always

24:39

surprises you always does something unexpected? Well,

24:41

you know every once in

24:43

a while beat Carolina beat Duke in

24:45

basketball beat him a football quite regularly But

24:48

okay, whatever but they weren't sitting pretty going

24:50

into the no and so it was like

24:53

in order to get to the madness Mm-hmm

24:56

You either have to when you're there's certain conferences where

24:58

you have to win the conference tournament or you have

25:01

to get an at-large bid You know somebody decide the

25:03

committee decides that you're good enough to be in Everyone

25:05

knew the NC State was not good enough to be

25:07

in the tournament There was talk

25:09

of just two ACC teams making it to the

25:11

tournament Duke in Carolina. That was even I

25:14

was a possibility mere weeks ago Yes,

25:17

they would have to win the ACC tournament in

25:19

order to qualify for the big dance, but they

25:21

were Like in the

25:24

worst possible position going into the tournament Yeah

25:26

Cuz with the way it works now the ACC

25:28

is so damn big like all these other

25:30

conferences that if you're a good team You

25:32

just sit around for like two rounds and don't

25:35

even play you wait until the scragglers Stragglers

25:37

wait catch up Duke it out And you

25:39

know, so if you start at the bottom

25:41

of the pack, which we pretty much did

25:43

you gotta play five games in five

25:46

Days and we have it like a seven man Kind

25:49

of an eight-man rotation This is not something that

25:51

human body is equipped to do and

25:53

then we beat Louisville barely and they're

25:55

in horrible and okay Yeah, that's about

25:57

right And

26:00

then I guess we beat Syracuse. I

26:02

was like, okay. Then Virginia.

26:06

All right. Then Duke?

26:09

What? And then we're in the final

26:11

game against UNC. Now I- Well,

26:13

building up to this, earlier that week,

26:16

like a weekend advance, I was like, I

26:19

was making plans for us for

26:21

the weekend because I knew that Posty

26:24

was playing at Rolling Loud, the

26:29

huge hip hop festival that's in LA. It's also

26:31

Miami and a couple of other places. And

26:34

I went last year with Lincoln, you know? And

26:38

so this year I was

26:40

like, well, he's headlining one of the nights, you

26:43

know? It'd be cool to go and hang out with him. Or

26:45

if we can't, we can hang out the night before because he's

26:48

gonna be in town. And

26:51

so I was kind of pushing, well, I was

26:53

pushing for one of those. And then I was like,

26:56

can we do this? And you were

26:58

like, yes. And then it started lining up. And at the time I was

27:01

thinking, well, State's not gonna

27:03

be anywhere close to the finals of the ACC

27:05

tournament. So I can make

27:07

plans freely. And you didn't even mention

27:09

it. That's how it wasn't worth mentioning. And

27:12

then we got an Uber

27:14

there on Saturday afternoon. And

27:21

you're on your phone in

27:24

the car. I'm

27:26

like, what's going on? You're like, well, you're

27:30

watching the game. The game was starting.

27:32

It started while we were driving. Which

27:35

was the championship game of

27:37

the ACC tournament against Carolina. And then

27:39

I like felt bad. I was like,

27:42

are you sure you wanna, you sure

27:44

you don't just wanna go back home?

27:46

Well, I'll be honest with you, like. I

27:49

mean, I wasn't going to, but. I just

27:51

emotionally prepared myself for us to get.

27:55

Pummeled by them. Because

27:57

I was just like, man, we got nothing less than the. and

28:00

they're better than we are. So

28:04

it'll be good to be at this concert. I was

28:06

scared to be like, well I'm not gonna go to

28:09

Rolling Loud so

28:12

I can watch us lose. It

28:14

just felt like I'm setting myself up for disappointment.

28:18

Right. And of course what ends

28:20

up happening is like we're playing great

28:22

right out of the gate. Like

28:25

a pretty healthy lead earlier in the game. Shit,

28:29

we're gonna win. I'll probably run

28:31

out of gas in the second half though. This is

28:33

how every state fan thinks, right? There's literally a term

28:36

for it called NC State Shit. That's

28:39

NC State Shit. Like just when you

28:41

think that nothing can go wrong, something does go wrong. Your

28:43

best player gets hurt, something like that. Now

28:46

every college thinks that this applies to them,

28:48

right? Everyone has this mind out of you,

28:50

right? But I really think it's true. And

28:54

so we're showing up at the venue and we're like

28:56

getting access

28:59

backstage and like you're

29:01

on your phone, it's like by this point it's like over

29:03

half time. Yeah

29:05

and so we get backstage and

29:08

you know this is a pretty

29:10

cool thing that you get to go be backstage

29:13

with Post Malone as

29:15

he's headlining a festival. Right. There's

29:19

not that many people backstage and

29:21

you know he's... It was his own 10. It wasn't

29:23

like it was coming down. Yeah it was just

29:26

his crew and he's

29:28

always very gracious and we always catch

29:30

up and you know. So

29:35

what I found myself doing is

29:37

being like, shit I can't, I

29:39

gotta keep watching this game. And so,

29:42

because I kept winning. We get down to

29:44

like there's five minutes left and at this

29:46

point, this is when I

29:48

took my phone to Austin to Post.

29:52

Right. And I was like, my

29:56

team's about to win the ACC Championship man. I was

29:58

like I have to show you this. No,

30:00

it doesn't matter what you're about to do.

30:03

You're about to do a concert. Oh, he's on a

30:05

million of those. You know, how many times does this

30:07

happen to us? It's like,

30:09

something very special is happening to us. I also

30:11

wanted him to know that like, I'm not the

30:13

guy that's on my phone at your get together.

30:15

Right. I don't do that. Like, the reason I'm

30:17

over here in the corner, like. You were in

30:20

the corner on your phone. Looking at

30:22

my phone and going, ahh, like yelling to myself. It's

30:25

because a moment, history is being made in

30:27

my mind. Right? And

30:29

so of course he was like laughing about it and like

30:32

very much into it. Because

30:34

he's a cowboy. Even though he had no point. Like,

30:37

I don't even care about college basketball as much.

30:41

But he

30:43

didn't think it was crazy. No. He understood

30:46

my. He thought it was fun. I mean, in

30:48

fact. We were forcing him

30:50

to make the moment about

30:52

celebrating for us, which was the joke.

30:54

Well, and last year or

30:56

the year before, he

30:58

was at the Forum and we went to that show and we

31:01

were backstage. He had had a

31:03

very specific UFC fight that he wanted to see

31:05

the results of. And so they had recorded it

31:07

for him until after the show. And then as

31:10

he's walking in to finally watch it, like the only thing he

31:12

was thinking about was this UFC fight as soon as he got

31:14

off stage. And I'm like, I understand you. I understand how you

31:16

think. Right. And

31:19

then somebody, one of the security

31:21

guys, I've spoiled it for him as soon as he walked

31:23

in. And he was very, very

31:25

as upset as he can get.

31:27

He doesn't get upset, right? He was still very

31:29

gracious in how he did it. Yeah, so he

31:31

understood it. He understood it wasn't. And then we

31:33

won. Which I thought made it really fun. And

31:35

then we win and like, he's

31:39

like celebrating with

31:42

us, right? And then

31:44

so we've got our college buddy,

31:46

Tech Thread, which is the five of us. But

31:50

then there's three of us who actually care

31:52

in terms as far as we're concerned, right?

31:54

And I'm not in that group.

31:57

So voluntarily, Tim. I

32:00

don't know if it was Tim or Matt started

32:02

the three of us

32:04

on a text thread where we are talking about state

32:06

sports and like texting during the games. Right.

32:09

But ironically, the other day,

32:11

after state won the first

32:13

round in the

32:15

madness, Greg

32:18

was like, Ooh, that was a close one. And on

32:20

the five thread, we're like, Oh, shit, Greg's paying attention

32:22

to this. And then we

32:24

were like, but that we should, no

32:26

one of the three of us at that

32:29

point said, Hey, we've got another like serious

32:31

sports thread, Greg, that you could

32:33

be a part of. But then

32:35

the only person who's not a part of it is Link. But

32:41

so you started commenting in the main chat. Even

32:44

though me and Tim and Matt have been

32:46

like sending pictures back and forth of like

32:48

Scotch in hand and stuff. There's like, you

32:51

know, it's like, there's... Right. Well,

32:53

when Greg made the... when

32:56

he posted, then I was like, Oh, I

32:58

guess we won. And then

33:00

I went and I watched the highlights, which

33:02

I discovered doesn't... you

33:04

can watch play highlights. YouTube TV. On

33:07

YouTube TV. And that's like the best way

33:09

to watch the game. Highly recommended. Okay, but to wrap that

33:11

story up. So yeah, I watched ACCM and shit that night

33:15

at Rolling Loud. And

33:18

I got to say, I'm predicting

33:21

preemptively, this is making

33:23

it into the top 10 moments of the

33:25

year that we will do at the end of the year. Because

33:28

A, wow, it was being

33:30

at, being at Rolling Loud was, I mean,

33:33

I don't care about Rolling

33:36

Loud in general. Like he

33:38

was the only person that was performing that I

33:41

cared about. You

33:44

know, what made me, I felt like I had, I

33:46

drug you there. And then you were like, you

33:49

were having a subpar. No,

33:52

no, I had no, no, but it was

33:54

a, for me, it was the combination of... because

33:57

it's the fact is I would have just been at home. Watching

34:00

it alone or with Shepard if

34:02

Shepard happened to be present. Shepard

34:05

doesn't really care as much, like

34:07

a lot does about sports. But

34:10

if he's home he'll watch it with me and kind of look

34:12

at me and laugh. This made a

34:14

surreal experience. Well, first of all,

34:16

any time we get to go

34:19

and watch Austin do

34:21

his thing and then have the

34:23

privilege of being able to be backstage and then

34:25

taken to a special spot where you can kind

34:27

of be in the middle of this

34:29

crazy festival but kind of be out of the mayhem

34:31

or whatever and just see him on

34:33

stage by himself. It's just a surreal

34:35

experience. You're just like... you

34:39

don't get to see that. You just don't get

34:41

to see that. It's crazy. People don't get to

34:43

experience what he experiences and to

34:45

be in that close proximity to it. It's just kind

34:47

of a surreal thing. I always enjoy it. You know,

34:50

from a cultural fascination standpoint, just like you listening to

34:52

me talk about sports. So

34:56

that is always fun. And then, as I talked

34:58

about with the episode with

35:00

Jesse talking about

35:03

my extraversion score being low, your

35:05

extraversion score is presumably being high. Jesse's being

35:08

very high as well. And taking advantage of

35:10

Jesse and your extraversion to, again, talking to

35:12

people. Then I make a decision if I

35:15

want to talk to him. I

35:18

told the story of you talking to

35:20

Quavo, which again, like when you

35:22

were talking to him, even though I have met him before,

35:24

I didn't know who it was. I was like, but I

35:26

was like, this guy has very

35:29

expensive teeth. And

35:33

very expensive jewelry

35:35

on. This is someone famous. He

35:37

has a beanie with very expensive

35:39

jewelry on the beanie. Yeah.

35:46

And when I walked up and you were asking, so

35:48

what kind of pillow do you use? And

35:53

I was like, yeah, okay. So you get to check

35:55

in. And Quavo was looking at you like, man,

35:58

this guy's crazy. He

36:01

liked it. And you know what, I'm

36:03

really concerned for him because he sleeps on his

36:05

arm like I used to do. And I told

36:07

him, when you get to be my age, you're

36:10

gonna have shoulder issues Quavo, if you keep sleeping on

36:13

that arm, you need to have a pillow like me.

36:15

You're probably figured it out. And

36:17

that's when Austin came over and

36:19

was talking to saying hello

36:22

to Quavo. And, cause

36:25

he was a surprise guest. He came out during Post

36:27

Set to like, saying

36:30

congratulations, which is awesome.

36:33

And he actually showed up the next night too, during

36:38

I think Don Tolliver said. So Quavo

36:40

was around, but like, he's

36:43

gotta watch that arm. And then I'm talking to Post and

36:45

Quavo about

36:47

what type of pillows they use. And then so

36:49

once Post and Quavo are next to each other,

36:53

and then these other two guys, Rhett and Link, the

36:57

videographer or photographer, they kind of come up and

36:59

the first thing they say is, can

37:02

we get a portrait of you two, very

37:04

clearly pointing to Post and Quavo, not these

37:06

two middle aged dudes on the side. So

37:09

we kind of push out to the side, they get pictures of

37:11

them. And then Austin is like, let's

37:14

bring Rhett and Link in here. Cause he knew

37:16

that it's funny to get a picture with Post

37:19

Malone, Quavo and Rhett and Link flanking them.

37:21

Right. I didn't know y'all are

37:23

all flippin' a bird in the picture.

37:26

Well, I don't know who started it. I

37:28

just followed suit. I don't have peripheral vision

37:30

with my glasses. You gave a backwards peace

37:32

sign. Yeah, yeah. Typically would have

37:35

been like tops, but like. But

37:39

yeah, and I was very excited to see that it did

37:41

make it onto the internet and

37:44

confuse people. Do you think Quavo now thinks

37:46

that I'm the MyPillow guy? Like

37:49

is that within the realm of possibility? Cause

37:51

I'm concerned about that. He would have to

37:53

very much not follow the news cycle to

37:56

think that you're Mike Lindell. Well,

37:58

I'm not going to say that Quavo doesn't. follow the

38:00

news cycle. But I

38:03

think he knows the differences between you and Mike Lindell. Now

38:06

when I went up to him, I

38:09

was like, hey man, he was like, I know who you are

38:11

and I was like, yes! I don't

38:13

love that. I was like, well you need to be a

38:15

rat! I didn't hear that, because we talked about the fact that

38:17

we met him. And then I pulled you over. We had met

38:20

him in a. Backstage of

38:22

tonight's show. Tonight's show. And

38:24

like this mythological meeting where I

38:28

was like, I wanna get a picture and so

38:30

like, they called him out of, whichever,

38:32

it was the Migos. And so

38:35

I was like, whoever can come out, I wanna take

38:37

a picture with him. And then, so Quavo comes out,

38:39

doesn't say a word, stands

38:41

in between us and does this like Quavo

38:44

pose. They take the picture and then he

38:46

just like, disappears.

38:49

We never had a, we never. He never said

38:51

anything. We never said, he never said anything. And

38:54

so that's what, that's the first thing that I was telling

38:56

when he was like, I was like,

38:58

you were like this mysterious ghost.

39:00

But the last thing he said was, I guess next time we

39:02

see each other, we'll get a picture that can be our thing.

39:05

So I really hope that that does be our thing. Yeah, I think

39:07

that's our thing. I got a thing with

39:09

Swamp God too. I got a picture thing with

39:11

him. Yeah. He takes, Ski Mask

39:13

the Swamp God takes a picture of me every time

39:16

he sees me. With his, his

39:20

chain. It's got a name. His

39:22

millennium pendant. No,

39:24

it's kind of, something, but it's kind of,

39:26

I saw people talking about it. I know, everybody talks

39:29

about it. It's our name. If you're gonna wear it,

39:31

you really need to know the name for it. It's a bit heavy to

39:33

wear for long. So

39:36

anyway, I'll wrap up. That

39:38

was fun, dude. And we won

39:40

the ACC Tournament. Yeah, there's a lot

39:42

of really incredible things. So, Tim is like

39:44

sending his picture of him with his scotch.

39:49

And I like take the

39:51

Bud Light from backstage, that,

39:54

you know, backstage and take a picture of it

39:56

and send it to that thread. But,

40:00

But then of course we make it into the tournament, we

40:02

make it to the madness, we win

40:04

the first round, we win the second round, as we speak we're going

40:06

to the sweet 16th. And

40:10

I watched both of

40:12

those games at home with

40:14

Shepard and Shepard

40:16

is like, I

40:20

get so I get so crazy. I

40:23

yell so much. I mean my voice is still

40:25

a little bit crackly because I just...

40:29

Does he laugh at you? Yes, he laughs at me. He

40:34

literally just laughs at me the whole time. The funny

40:36

thing is... He thinks you're weird but did you explain

40:38

to him there's a whole culture of people who do

40:40

this and they're called fans of sports?

40:43

He understands that. The

40:46

funny thing is that I watch with

40:48

my little wolf pack, Sean and Barbara

40:50

and every time I

40:53

go crazy they just start barking. They're

40:57

like, daddy is excited about something so we're going

40:59

to bark. So it's just like every time something

41:01

exciting happens the dog's just going to... You got

41:03

your own wolf pack. But I think that... That's

41:06

cute. I'm yelling so loud I'm relatively

41:08

certain that the neighbors... No.

41:12

I think so. I think if you're walking

41:14

on the street in front of my house...

41:17

You think somebody's going to call the cops on you? I

41:20

don't know. I don't know if you could

41:22

tell the difference between somebody being murdered

41:25

or somebody watching sports. If

41:28

you can't then you have a problem. I think that there's

41:30

a difference. And I don't get that. I

41:32

got mad a couple of times I got mad. I

41:36

will admit that I got mad. It's

41:38

funny but it's fun to

41:40

get that emotionally involved I guess. The

41:43

announcers man, like Tim,

41:46

our friend Tim, he watches...

41:49

He won't watch it. He can't watch it. It's too

41:51

much. He just listens to the radio broadcast.

41:53

Really? And then if we win he goes back and

41:55

watches the game. But also he can't take... My

41:57

dad can't take the national announcers.

42:00

stuff that they'll say and the ignorant stuff

42:02

they'll say and you know, let's empathize. They

42:05

don't know anything about every team or whatever. And

42:08

everybody who's, if it's your team playing, you take it

42:10

very personally if they say something about when your player

42:12

is your coach or something. So

42:15

if you listen to your biased broadcast

42:17

while watching, but that you can't really

42:20

do that anymore. You could do that

42:22

back in the day when the feed

42:24

of the TV and the radio were

42:26

coming at the same time, but now because everything comes

42:28

to the internet, it's too

42:31

far behind. So

42:34

your video feed that you're getting isn't as

42:36

real time as you're like over the antenna

42:38

broadcast that we had as kids, which was

42:40

almost instantaneous. So you

42:42

can't sync it up with the radio. I guess there's probably

42:45

people who figured out how to do it, but I

42:48

have not. Creating an audio

42:50

delay. That's

42:53

also streaming. You know, remember

42:55

the voice of the Wolfpack, Gary

42:58

Hahn? Yeah. This is

43:00

his last year. He said it, this is my

43:02

last year. Oh, wow. And

43:04

this historic run is happening. You

43:07

know. So we'll

43:09

see. Good for him. The run

43:12

has, you know, I'm not speaking anything into

43:14

existence, but statistically speaking, the run may have

43:16

come to an end already, but I will

43:18

enjoy every minute of it. I appreciate the

43:20

fact that you are inviting me and I

43:22

do want to go. Don't

43:25

fart with your hand when I'm talking. Like,

43:28

why? This is

43:30

becoming a habit. Like this can't

43:32

be part of our podcast. Your mic doesn't

43:34

pick it up. So here I... The microphone doesn't

43:36

pick it up. I know, but I hear it. Like

43:39

he puts his hands together like he's clasping

43:41

his hands and I just... Just

43:43

checking my pulse. Making sure I'm still around. And

43:46

then you just, it makes a fart. Well, it doesn't always

43:48

make a fart. But

43:50

it's a habit of yours now. I mean. Well,

43:53

you only hear it when I have a fart. Were you doing it on

43:55

purpose? No. You

43:57

did it. I'm testing to see if I can

43:59

still make one. No, it's a tic. You.

44:02

Stop Such services This one. Are you talking

44:04

about your and you're gonna do it? But

44:06

I'm just telling you. You

44:08

have a problem you're doing. You're not even

44:11

knowing you're doing. It. Just

44:13

didn't know you're doing it us of yeah

44:15

I was talking he added know and making

44:18

noise. But you

44:20

like but but you like this? Are you

44:22

like the fly like of aren't near? I

44:24

know to. I like the feeling of my

44:26

hands coming together in a lawyer pocket. And.

44:28

It easy to goes assists and then when

44:30

I anti the makes a fart noise and

44:32

use happened here those if I don't stop

44:34

you know you were just like I was

44:36

gonna be lasting my hands. You can have

44:38

you learned to undo am am am imitating

44:40

years you watch out your be foreign do

44:43

listen dude you're going to be you going

44:45

to be in a place where it's not

44:47

appropriate and this is one of those places

44:49

you're gonna be in other places where it's

44:51

inappropriate and you're going to be doing it.

44:53

Probably. Not. Ah, I'm pretty

44:55

good in like is coming up

44:58

any you know, April Dignitaries around.

45:00

I mean it's not far from

45:02

been so like if he sparked

45:04

so much like real fart. But

45:07

fart. You. Get of what

45:09

were you dislike? sometimes you just you just let

45:11

it rip in the wrong place on prior their

45:13

own property for gotchas and not a me not

45:15

the most cautious but kind of guy but use

45:17

I'm telling you right now that this hand far

45:19

is it some in some ways worse. And

45:22

guy that's weird. You know if I

45:24

do it again since living in this

45:26

is coming from a weird dude says

45:29

mean desire I disagree. A wake call

45:31

for you. The.

45:33

Weirdest do the in your life is telling

45:35

you that your been too weird. About

45:38

something stab. Stab. Again,

45:41

And will do it again today. But.

45:43

Keep your his boss. I can't do it of about

45:45

the right hand over the last. Just.

45:47

Don't make a note to do that. I

45:53

don't. But even that's weird. even

45:55

when is doing a silent part. This is

45:57

where I'm so mans. But. Yours but.

46:01

But you're pumping. But listen to it, but do that. I

46:04

don't. You're not just a little. I know it's a

46:06

little a shape of air, but it's

46:09

like you're pumping your hands together. Let's move on, I wanna

46:11

hear about your trip. Now I don't want to move on

46:13

until you take

46:15

your hands apart. Like keep

46:18

them apart, there you go. Don't

46:20

put them together. You

46:22

can't do that anymore. Now

46:24

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48:22

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48:25

is, according

48:28

to many, the crown jewel of

48:31

the US national park

48:33

system. In terms of

48:35

like glacier formed rock spectacles,

48:40

one of the most amazing sites you can see

48:42

on the planet. I've

48:45

been there twice in college

48:47

and then when Lily

48:50

was a baby when we were in

48:53

Santa Cruz, you and Jesse

48:55

were there too. So I know you've been

48:57

there at least once. Maybe you wanted to. Once as a kid

49:00

and then once as. So

49:02

it had been a long time since I've been there

49:04

and for Lando's Spring Break I was like, you know

49:06

what, let's go. We thought we were going to do

49:08

the Sprinter van thing but they're

49:11

having so much trouble with like regulating

49:13

crowds that they, there's so much reservation

49:15

system stuff to like, if you want

49:17

to camp in the park then

49:20

you have to reserve and this has been going on for

49:22

years like it's either a year

49:24

in advance or nine months to the day in advance.

49:26

Like they fill up. They fill up immediately and then

49:28

you have and then if you don't get that then

49:30

you got to wait to like the last minute and

49:32

you're not guaranteed to get a camping spot at this

49:35

time of year. They

49:37

are not regulating people coming into the park

49:40

but over the next few months as it goes

49:42

into summer, in addition to

49:45

camping reservations, you have to have

49:47

a reservation just

49:49

to go into the park

49:52

because it's so popular and it

49:54

gets so crowded that

49:56

it's just lines and lines

49:58

and lines of Cars. it kind

50:00

of compromises the experience. But.

50:03

Going. In

50:05

mid March. Was.

50:09

Like. Presented as like a

50:11

really great option. Everything's not open because

50:14

they're still snow at the top at

50:16

like elevation so I'll a lot of

50:18

the trails that would like. I mean

50:21

you can't. Hide. Half dome at

50:23

this time of year. Because. As

50:25

close as they would want because the snow. Who'd

50:28

want to put that sells to? That's kind of a bucket

50:31

list. I'm starting to feel like it might be a bucket

50:33

list thing for me, like I'd like to do. It is

50:35

how hard is it. I. Think it's really, really

50:37

hard? Am it for me either? You be really hard.

50:40

For. During. Out more health based

50:42

on your or web. Based

50:44

on how sore I was after what

50:46

I did. With. Wasn't that?

50:49

He was. Ah, and I'll tell you about

50:51

it. I don't know if I could do have

50:53

don't that as a college student or hike to

50:55

the topic Yosemite Falls and I thought I was

50:57

gonna die. And not that was our even

51:00

when I wasn't the best save my life. That

51:03

was hard. I

51:05

mean it's them is the tallest falls

51:07

in the. In

51:09

the Us. As was

51:11

beautiful but anyway. When. We

51:13

went. There's. Nobody there,

51:16

Nobody. There. But we

51:18

didn't run a camping spot. We rented

51:20

a spot at the historic Hotel that's

51:22

down in the Yosemite Valley. the only

51:24

one this in the Yosemite Valley built

51:27

in nineteen Twenty seven. The A wanting.

51:30

You know you can stay in. Rooms

51:33

were like. Presidents

51:35

have stayed in his system. Is

51:37

this an iconic. Spot with

51:39

we chicken know our room. It's

51:42

not fancy because it's so old. So.

51:44

It's it's fancy an old kind of away cannot

51:46

like. If you go to like the Biltmore estate

51:49

in North Carolina, you know when you go there

51:51

it's like got all this history and it's. Huge

51:54

in, the architecture's amazing and like there's

51:56

rugs and stuff everywhere and it's always

51:58

get that vibe. If not

52:01

large type vibe. yeah, they've they've

52:03

They cap it all. In.

52:05

That same type of vibe you mean ago

52:07

bargain? The the growth market where you feel

52:09

more at eight is like. Yeah,

52:11

the girl. Park in Asia is a place where you can

52:13

stand as when I met. Sosa.

52:16

Cool vibe. In our room.

52:19

I looked out the window of our

52:21

room and is just a framed. It's

52:25

like a framed photo of Half dome

52:27

just staring at. Like

52:29

right out the window was any the sunset on it

52:31

and it was like it was like it was on

52:33

fire. Use it was absolutely is the

52:35

best view of of or have our mouths of

52:37

window and it was pretty amazing. Yeah,

52:41

the fact that there were there was a cool place to

52:43

stay with. stay there for two nights. The light. Would.

52:46

Drive in in the Valley. It's. Absolutely.

52:49

Beautiful. The

52:52

is there's the snow on the mountain

52:55

tops. snow and half dome and. The

52:58

next day we get up and I'm like you know what?

53:00

I'm. We're going to do

53:02

the Miss Trail hike. This is what I

53:04

pulled up a video. The. Week before

53:06

like an eight minute videos like lando this

53:09

what we're going to see. You know a

53:11

little that us I'm at a trail and

53:13

then the mist trail. Takes.

53:16

You up to? See.

53:19

If not, Nevada falls bizarre right before it. as

53:21

a there's a falls that it takes you to

53:23

and like the falls like you know kind of

53:26

makes a mist. And

53:28

or six hundred steps in your like walking

53:30

beside the. The Falls.

53:33

And you can go from the. You. Can go from the

53:35

bottom up to the top and land was like i

53:37

want to do that When am I guess that someone

53:39

to do. And I'm. Christie,

53:43

Had already turned in for the nice to see

53:45

what part of these plans were. She's part of

53:47

the plans but she wasn't a part of the

53:49

plan. And I'm looking

53:51

online Him. I'm like, well, Ah,

53:55

I. Can be ready they're there. might be some ice on

53:57

the trail and my crap. I think I need some.

54:00

Ram Pines. And

54:02

I tell Chrissy I'm like many Crampons Zone. She's

54:04

like. Is. That like

54:06

a feminine product, It's like why. Yes,

54:10

So they invite you to cram in their. Her.

54:13

For how lights know, it's like groupie

54:15

stuff. you can you. You. Put

54:17

over your shoes and some of our spikes

54:20

but like these are like more like yeah

54:22

tracks. I bought the like special things on

54:24

my feeling good about this and so we

54:26

go out. we we go to them a

54:28

information place and talk to the park ranger

54:30

and he's like yes you can take you

54:32

can't take the six hundred steps they're closed

54:34

for. Like. Rockfall risk this

54:37

time of year an ice

54:39

see gotta take a detour.

54:42

Up the John Muir trail in order to go

54:44

all the way around and my get your way

54:46

up to the top but instead of gone up

54:48

the steps you're going lights up the mountain. I'm

54:50

like I'll probably be easier. And

54:52

I'm. Ah,

54:55

You know, Just. As just

54:57

skip forward to the end. This for

54:59

a moment nobody died but. Five

55:02

and a half hours later, V

55:06

maybe we got back down and

55:08

down or four years and got

55:10

to the top know Rose. Ah,

55:14

And. We used to hike. The. Three

55:16

of us, some not. You can put this on.

55:18

Christie was like. How. Nice. The

55:20

weather was perfect. it was like

55:22

sixty five degrees and sunny and.

55:25

It. Was beautiful. But. Then

55:27

you start taking the a detour trail and is

55:30

like so wits backs and so wits back. So

55:32

how much water to the neil? Drink on a

55:34

five and have our i could I would think

55:36

is more than you can carry. Ah,

55:40

Now. We have I had a bladder

55:42

a water I had to water Bosnia

55:44

had a third nalgene just for you

55:46

know or other such as can't bag

55:48

for all of okay I'm carrying a

55:50

bag and everybody was hydrated everybody was

55:52

hydrated but then we got like. Half

55:54

way up the trail were like at the bottom of

55:57

the falls and in this is where the bathrooms are

55:59

in the bath. They're closed. Since.

56:02

Then. Pour.

56:04

Christie see that a point where it's like. We.

56:06

Get up to them. I. Mean.

56:08

By. The time ago I don't five an hour

56:10

later she had not paid for my anyway. She's.

56:14

Is holding the answers as like. That.

56:17

Was that's is miserable. You.

56:19

Know you gotta have one of those who are a shit

56:21

about one of those Go Girls are like. Is

56:24

as they were like there were under bush. Some.

56:27

See didn't wanna do it. I kept san a

56:29

winged off the trail. here. we go off the

56:31

trail here and she's like. Logistically.

56:34

I'd rather hold it and other okay, I

56:36

respect them. But going

56:39

up just kind of flashback a little

56:41

bit. Were gone

56:43

up and increases like where. Where.

56:46

Where or how far as

56:48

this. And. I'm like.

56:51

I don't know where no one gets will get

56:53

to this. I. Don't the top with

56:55

like I did I mean I what The

56:57

way we're going Go: Six hundred thirty six

57:00

hundred steps. Inside, but the way

57:02

we're going I is you know there's no steps.

57:05

Is just a bunch of the. Rocks.

57:09

That. Are com like steps here

57:11

you can have step up on butter rocks.

57:13

And it was. It. Was

57:16

not easy. And.

57:18

Dumb. There. Were points

57:20

where. He kind of got a bit

57:22

heated. And. I'm not talk

57:24

about the weather anymore. When did

57:26

you stop talking to each other

57:28

and right under attack was on

57:30

a high as right renders the

57:32

couples stop right at that point

57:34

after that conversation that are there

57:36

was gear we can't stop talking

57:38

and then. It was like

57:41

if you take that marriage advice that

57:43

Katrina friend braver exactly you divorce on

57:45

that heights Oh see what I'm saying

57:47

it? Let me say it. even though

57:49

we knew they got a measure that

57:51

gov that's not how we do it.

57:53

It was definitely on the table. I

57:55

mean I at a certain point divorces

57:57

on the table and then as I

57:59

can't. I kept saying, you know what?

58:01

We can stop as much as we want. We got

58:03

snacks. We got water. We can just keep stopping and

58:09

That the problem is you know, Chrissy had

58:11

this From when we went

58:13

skiing in Mammoth She like

58:15

had this elevation sickness that impacted like

58:18

her vestibular system and

58:20

it actually hasn't gone away So she was doing your research.

58:23

She was kind of dizzy And

58:25

she said I feel like my brain is

58:27

full of sand. Oh, that's a problem and I

58:31

didn't take the bait on that and turn that

58:33

into a joke On

58:35

this but I was kind of feeling for she couldn't

58:38

pee she couldn't balance

58:40

and she couldn't think straight But

58:43

it was beautiful and we could take as

58:45

many breaks as we wanted and we stopped talking to

58:47

each other Around that time and then

58:49

it was like well you can stay here and

58:51

then because it was we're gonna come back down

58:53

the same way and then we'll just We'll

58:56

meet up with you. And then she was

58:58

like, I'm just gonna go down and I'm

59:00

like But

59:03

are you dizzy And

59:07

then she was like and then she

59:09

would just she just kept walking And

59:12

I was like and then we just kept following so she was kind of

59:14

in the lead and then We'd

59:18

stop again and we'd have that conversation again at

59:21

that having like four times and then

59:23

we started hitting snow Okay,

59:26

and it was slippery and it was icy. Were you

59:28

using the cramp? And I was like, did you have

59:30

them ready? I had them but we

59:33

weren't using them yet. And I was like That's

59:36

when I got excited cuz I'm like I

59:38

bought these things we need to use them Come

59:41

Christy come back. It's like we need it. So

59:43

we I felt like man.

59:45

I bought these that's what I was thinking all

59:48

along I was like I bought these special things

59:50

to put on our shoes When

59:52

we get to a certain point in the trail when we're gonna need

59:54

them I don't want to turn back before

59:56

we have to use these things because I bought them to

59:58

use and wouldn't it be cool to use these

1:00:00

things? So secretly

1:00:04

whenever she kept trudging on, I was like,

1:00:06

yeah, we're gonna get to use these things.

1:00:08

And we did. We got to put them

1:00:10

on and walk

1:00:12

on a little bit of ice. And

1:00:15

then at the moment when

1:00:18

murder was on the table, somebody

1:00:20

was walking down and they were like, the

1:00:22

sun's so pointed right up there. And I

1:00:25

was like, yes, that's what we're gonna, we're just gonna go to

1:00:27

a point. You know, feel

1:00:29

like we made it to something. And

1:00:32

we did get up to the lookout point. We

1:00:34

could see the waterfall and

1:00:36

we ate some snacks and it

1:00:38

was beautiful.

1:00:41

You started talking again? Not really. Not

1:00:44

much. But eventually on the trip, you did begin

1:00:46

talking again. When we

1:00:48

got back down and she

1:00:51

thought she was gonna have to wait like

1:00:53

another 40 minutes to use the bathroom, but

1:00:55

then like Lando spotted some porta johns and

1:00:57

like the mood shifted big

1:01:00

time. Oh, it changes everything. Yeah.

1:01:02

When you compete. When your eyes aren't floating

1:01:05

in urine, you know, it

1:01:07

was, I don't know that it

1:01:09

was worth it. It was, it was, it was quite

1:01:12

grueling. Yeah, you kind of

1:01:14

kind of know a little bit about how long

1:01:16

a hike might take is kind of a part

1:01:18

of the equation. Five and a half

1:01:20

hours. And I would think that at

1:01:23

this point in your marriage, Christy might know

1:01:25

if Link is the one who has made

1:01:27

this plan, right? The timing of it may

1:01:29

not have come into that is what she

1:01:32

was yelling. I mean, saying

1:01:34

on the hike when she was like, she

1:01:37

was saying, you know what? I just needed

1:01:39

to say no to you. Right. Like,

1:01:41

I know you and I

1:01:44

know that you're gonna

1:01:46

drag me into something. And

1:01:49

I can say no, I can say I

1:01:51

don't want to do this. But

1:01:54

I didn't. So she was kind of beating herself

1:01:56

up. And I knew to keep quiet at that

1:01:58

point. Because

1:02:01

if I agreed, it's

1:02:03

kind of a catch-22. It's like, I

1:02:07

don't know. It's like, was I saying it was her

1:02:09

fault for being here? What was Lando saying at this

1:02:11

point in time? He was, I mean,

1:02:15

he's the one who said he wanted to do the hike and he was

1:02:17

fine with it, but he

1:02:19

was a bit... Did he also get

1:02:21

quiet? He got quiet. Yeah, we

1:02:23

got quiet. We got

1:02:25

quiet. But, I

1:02:28

mean, it was a good story. I

1:02:33

mean, it was like, for us, it was a memorable experience. Like,

1:02:37

that's what I was saying when we were driving back. I was like,

1:02:41

you know, we slept on it that night. We

1:02:43

had a nice little hike to the bottom of

1:02:45

Yosemite Falls, which is beautiful, the next morning before

1:02:47

we drove back. And I was like, years

1:02:50

from now, what are we going to remember from this trip?

1:02:55

And then I just left it open-ended and she was like,

1:02:58

well, the Yosemite Falls

1:03:00

was beautiful. The

1:03:02

hotel was very memorable. And

1:03:06

she didn't mention the

1:03:08

grilling hike. And I'm thinking, the only

1:03:10

thing, just go ahead and say it, the

1:03:12

only thing we're going to remember from

1:03:15

this trip years from now, maybe for the

1:03:17

rest of our life, is having

1:03:22

to pee for five and a half

1:03:24

hours and going, like, hiking up snow

1:03:26

with these crampon devices and, like, not

1:03:29

being happy with each other. That's what we're

1:03:31

going to remember, but we're going to laugh

1:03:33

about it. I

1:03:35

didn't say anything. You know, it's too

1:03:37

early. I'll say that in a couple of years.

1:03:41

But I felt like it was

1:03:43

a victory. We made it to the top. We

1:03:45

made it to the top. If your

1:03:47

goal in any given scenario is to

1:03:50

remember it the hardest. Yeah,

1:03:53

we're not going to forget it. There's a lot of things. There's a

1:03:55

lot of choices you can make. Yeah.

1:04:01

And so this kind of explains why

1:04:03

Christie and Lando were totally fine with

1:04:05

me taking the second half of spring

1:04:07

break to just go off

1:04:11

by myself. You know? She

1:04:14

did say, no, I'd rather not do something

1:04:16

the second half of the week. And

1:04:18

it was like, so I think it's a nice bit

1:04:20

of freedom that we both have to say to each

1:04:22

other, if you're into that, go for it, but

1:04:24

I'm not. And that's what they both

1:04:26

said, and they had a great week just

1:04:28

like they're watching Schitt's Creek, which

1:04:32

apparently gets good, and

1:04:34

they like it. That's their thing. And

1:04:36

then I'm like, I'm going to Park City, and I

1:04:38

just want to snowboard by myself. You

1:04:41

know, our high school friend Eric is there. I met up

1:04:43

with him. He gave me his pass. He

1:04:47

was like, oh, I

1:04:49

can take off work and go skiing with you

1:04:54

Thursday, maybe Friday too. And I wrote back, and

1:04:56

I was like, well,

1:05:00

I'm kind of – I was kind of

1:05:02

excited about going snowboarding alone. And

1:05:05

I was like, I hope he takes this in the

1:05:07

right way. And then he was

1:05:11

like, okay. And then I was like, but he

1:05:14

wanted to – he took me – so Thursday I

1:05:16

skied alone. But then he was like, I

1:05:18

really want to take you to Snowbird, which

1:05:20

is another ski mountain that

1:05:23

I'd never been to. You like have to drive – it's

1:05:25

a different – it's

1:05:28

not there at the canyons. It's not in Park City.

1:05:30

You got to drive out and then drive up another

1:05:32

canyon. But it was really cool. It

1:05:34

was like a totally different vibe. It

1:05:37

was steeper. There were basically no greens

1:05:40

on Snowbird. What, blues? Yeah. Yeah,

1:05:43

and I'm more just a blue guy. But

1:05:45

I took – some of the blues felt

1:05:47

more like blacks from Park

1:05:49

City. But I had the day to

1:05:51

warm up, and I didn't hurt myself. But

1:05:54

when I showed up, like Eric

1:05:56

took me to the hotel, and we got dinner, and like – And

1:06:00

I realized that like, he

1:06:03

didn't know exactly how

1:06:05

to take the fact that I'm

1:06:08

coming up to Park City alone. A year ago,

1:06:10

like I brought my whole family and we

1:06:12

did a whole thing, right? Is everything okay? So

1:06:14

he's like, I realized he was thinking, are

1:06:17

you okay? Are

1:06:20

you and Christy okay? Well

1:06:22

let me tell you about the hype that we took. What's

1:06:24

the deal? What's the deal? But I'm like,

1:06:28

I didn't realize that

1:06:30

that's how it would come

1:06:32

across. You know, it's like people

1:06:34

don't, you know, people

1:06:36

need to take more solo trips. Once I explained to

1:06:39

him what I was doing, I was like, I just

1:06:41

like to have some time

1:06:43

where I don't have to

1:06:45

take anybody else into account. And

1:06:47

I can just like, you know,

1:06:50

I'm always with somebody. You

1:06:53

or a loved one.

1:06:56

Well, you're a loved one. You know what

1:06:58

I mean? A family member. You

1:07:00

know, I'm very rarely alone.

1:07:02

That's why we started taking the

1:07:04

solo trips that we take because it's appealing to

1:07:06

both of us because we don't

1:07:08

have a lot of alone time. And you

1:07:11

combine that with snowboarding, like

1:07:14

the logistics of like, I got

1:07:16

to wait for somebody else on the slope and I got to

1:07:18

make sure that I don't get separated. And then when they got

1:07:20

to coordinate to get down to the same lift and do

1:07:23

you want to stop and eat or not? What time do

1:07:25

you want to get on the slopes? There's a lot of

1:07:27

logistics that then just go away. And

1:07:30

then when you're out there on the slopes, I'm listening

1:07:32

to like

1:07:35

an epic cinematic soundtrack

1:07:39

and just snowboarding down

1:07:41

these blues at my own pace. And

1:07:44

it was just like a

1:07:46

heavenly little world. I don't know how you do

1:07:48

that though. Listening to music while doing it. I

1:07:53

mean, at first, you want to feel like you

1:07:55

can hear people around you, but like, you

1:07:58

don't really hear somebody who's about to collaborate. Anyway,

1:08:01

sometimes sometimes they'll be like on your left,

1:08:03

but It's

1:08:05

worth it It

1:08:07

is a little more dangerous, but it was

1:08:10

it was such a good vibe. It was

1:08:13

beautiful. I loved it Yeah,

1:08:16

I'm too worried about some Body

1:08:19

like be lining it coming up from

1:08:21

behind me and not being able to hear them I

1:08:23

do get worried about it, but I

1:08:25

just try to stay that on the left side of a slope

1:08:29

You know because I'm regular footed

1:08:31

I can look to my right and I can look up

1:08:34

but I can't it's harder to look over my left shoulder

1:08:36

So you don't want people coming on your blind side. So

1:08:38

if you hang out on the left and Don't

1:08:41

make huge turns it decreases the chances

1:08:43

that happening But I you

1:08:45

know, I did get out of

1:08:47

it unscathed. Did you fall at

1:08:49

all? Not really. No, no And

1:08:54

then I got a burger. I

1:08:56

met a guy named Dennis I

1:08:58

bellied up to the bar and at a place where you

1:09:00

could get burgers and this this

1:09:04

this ski instructor named Dennis Was

1:09:07

there? Seems like he was there

1:09:09

a lot like he lived on the resort and

1:09:11

he like taught seven and eight year olds how to ski I

1:09:13

was like, dude, you are a saint And

1:09:16

so he became my buddy while I ordered

1:09:18

my burger And he was

1:09:20

like I was like, what do you recommend? He was

1:09:22

like You need to

1:09:24

get a burger and

1:09:26

chili cheese fries And then

1:09:28

you need to put the chili cheese fries on the

1:09:30

burger. I'm like, oh this guy's an expert And

1:09:34

so I'll be like I'll take the dentist special

1:09:37

And she was like what and Dennis was like

1:09:40

he'll have a burger and then

1:09:42

the chili cheese fries on the side Okay,

1:09:46

yeah, you're gonna build it and then it comes out and

1:09:48

like Comes

1:09:50

out and I got a burger and chili cheese fries

1:09:52

and I'm like Dennis what do I do?

1:09:55

And then he's like well you just

1:09:58

take your hand and grabbed a

1:10:00

chili cheese fries. And I'm like, but

1:10:02

this chili on, he's

1:10:05

like, just grab it. Like you gotta get

1:10:07

your hands dirty. Who is this dentist? He's a

1:10:09

ski instructor. He's a man. And

1:10:12

I'm like, whatever dentist says I do. So

1:10:18

I guess I need to admit that like, maybe I was

1:10:20

a little lonely. Have I said? Because me and I really

1:10:22

needed a dentist. That sounds like quite a connection. That night

1:10:24

I really needed a dentist in my life. So everything he

1:10:26

was telling me to do, I was just doing. So

1:10:29

I grabbed the chili cheese fries with

1:10:32

my bare hand and just

1:10:34

plopped it on the, that's

1:10:36

not why he told me not to do that. Plopped

1:10:39

it on my burger. I was like, dentist,

1:10:41

there's beans in this chili. This

1:10:43

is not the type of chili that I put on a

1:10:45

burger. It's like I have principles. He

1:10:48

didn't know who he was. He

1:10:50

was having an interaction with. But

1:10:54

yeah, he didn't know and he didn't ask.

1:10:57

But at one point, he did

1:10:59

start filming me eating the burger. Really?

1:11:03

And I was like, this is strange.

1:11:05

He did not know who I

1:11:07

was. We didn't talk about it. I wasn't being

1:11:09

recognized. He

1:11:11

was just, he just

1:11:14

thought I was funny. What did he say to you

1:11:16

when he sort of. He was like, man, you, cause

1:11:18

I was making fun of him about the burger,

1:11:20

about the chili having beans in it and like

1:11:22

put like, get my hand on message and put

1:11:24

it on the burger. I guess I was kind

1:11:26

of making it, giving him his own private GMM,

1:11:29

my half of it or something. Yeah, it sounds like it.

1:11:31

I think it has a column that like I looked over

1:11:33

and he was just like, man, you did you a trip.

1:11:35

And then he's like filming me. And

1:11:40

I'm eating the burger and I'm

1:11:42

like, dude, your burger sucks. Your

1:11:45

burger's dry. I'm about to say.

1:11:47

It's not a good burger. When you get a burger on,

1:11:50

I've never had a burger while

1:11:53

skiing. That was worth

1:11:55

a shit. Like any of

1:11:57

these places. It doesn't matter what. The sign said

1:11:59

burger. Yeah, okay, well. That doesn't mean you can

1:12:01

make them. It means you can make

1:12:03

a sign that says it. So, I

1:12:07

didn't get his number. What about the rest

1:12:09

of the time in terms of like,

1:12:13

because traveling, I have traveled, I've

1:12:16

done like solo camping, but

1:12:20

what, and I've done like one trip that was like to

1:12:22

a town, but

1:12:25

what I ended up doing is I

1:12:27

got food and brought it back to

1:12:29

my room, because my room that I was staying at

1:12:31

had like a kitchen. What

1:12:33

I have not done, maybe

1:12:35

once in my life, in

1:12:37

the past like 10, 15 years, is like gone to a restaurant alone.

1:12:42

Yeah. Did you do that? Well,

1:12:45

that's what I was going to do to get a burger, and then I was like,

1:12:47

you know what? I'm not going to sit at

1:12:49

a table alone. I'm just going to sit at the end

1:12:51

of this bar. So, I sat at the very end

1:12:53

of the bar next to Dennis. But

1:12:55

that was the one meal that you did that for? Yeah, that

1:12:58

was the one meal, and that's

1:13:01

where the lady was having, she was

1:13:03

participating in the madness. Oh,

1:13:05

that was all. She

1:13:07

left. She was on the

1:13:09

other side of Dennis, so that

1:13:11

was the madness piece of that, but then Dennis was

1:13:14

there for the long haul. When I left, he was

1:13:16

still there. He

1:13:19

was like – but

1:13:23

I enjoy – it's

1:13:25

like a solo camping trip is like the pristine

1:13:27

thing, but being on the slopes alone is like

1:13:29

a close

1:13:31

second. But then like, yeah, there's a lot

1:13:34

of people around. It's not like when you're

1:13:36

camping, you're like in complete isolation. That's its

1:13:38

own special thing. But

1:13:42

just being totally – I don't know.

1:13:44

It's like just being totally

1:13:46

on my own reconnaissance. It actually

1:13:49

is a bit risky. Like I flew out of

1:13:51

Burbank, and I'm like, you know how I don't like

1:13:53

to – I don't like – I was

1:13:55

on Southwest, you got to line up. And

1:13:57

you got to like, oh, you got to claim your seat, and you got to – It's

1:14:01

kind of stressful because they don't give you a seat. And

1:14:05

I don't like to wait. I

1:14:07

don't like to wait in a line. You

1:14:11

know how I am. Like right before the

1:14:13

plane starts boarding is when I go to

1:14:15

the bathroom. And

1:14:18

so that way when I come back, I made the lines down a

1:14:20

little bit. And so I

1:14:22

went to the bathroom and said, oh, the bathroom

1:14:24

is further away than I thought. And I walked

1:14:27

to the bathroom. And this is the flight

1:14:29

out there. I walked

1:14:31

to the bathroom, used the bathroom, feeling

1:14:33

good, make sure I got my

1:14:35

water bottle filled up and everything. I like to have

1:14:37

water on the plane. And

1:14:41

then I'm like, oh crap, they're really

1:14:44

boarding. And

1:14:48

then I go and I- What does that mean? The

1:14:50

line was getting low. So I scurry back and I get

1:14:52

in the line. And- You're

1:14:54

in the middle seat at this point. And

1:14:57

then I get up there and I like, boop. And

1:15:00

then it's like, I'm like, oh shit, I'm not being retained.

1:15:07

What's retained? What's going on? It's

1:15:09

like, everybody's like, boop, boop, green. I'm like, red.

1:15:14

And she's like, where

1:15:17

are you going, sir? And I'm like, what is

1:15:20

going on here? I'm going to Park City.

1:15:25

And she was like, this plane is going

1:15:27

to Denver. And

1:15:32

I'm like, oh shit. Link alone, man. And

1:15:35

it was because the bathroom was- It was

1:15:38

further to get to it. It was the bathroom's fault.

1:15:40

So then when I came out of the bathroom, I

1:15:42

thought the bathroom was now closer to my gate, but

1:15:45

it was one gate over. So then

1:15:47

I run back to my gate and I'm like, oh

1:15:49

yeah, okay. And it worked out. And

1:15:51

it was green there. Yeah, it's like, I mean, you

1:15:53

know, it's like, it usually- it figures itself out. I

1:15:55

figured itself out, but it, it, it

1:15:58

happens. A lot of it happens last minute. for me,

1:16:00

it's like harkening back to two

1:16:02

weeks ago, we were talking about the whole gas thing. It's

1:16:06

still working out for me. Like the not planning

1:16:08

ahead. You made it. I

1:16:10

plan the right things, like I bought crampons,

1:16:13

but I'd get on the wrong flight if you don't watch me. I

1:16:16

will go to another city. And back in the day,

1:16:18

Back in the day that would have happened. Back in

1:16:20

the day, you would have just been on the plane,

1:16:22

right? Yeah. You would have just gotten on. They didn't

1:16:24

ask me questions. There's no security. Well,

1:16:27

they took your ticket, but they didn't scan it. So they

1:16:29

probably didn't look at every one of them. Yeah.

1:16:32

And then you get off the plane and you're in the

1:16:35

wrong state. Yeah, that would

1:16:37

have complicated things. Crampons or not.

1:16:39

I could have gone skiing there in Denver,

1:16:42

or wherever it was going. Yeah, but where'd your snowboard go? Right.

1:16:48

Oh, I had a good time, man. But I'm glad

1:16:50

to be back. I'm glad to be back. Yeah,

1:16:56

I do miss Dennis a little bit though. It

1:16:58

doesn't sound like you should. Well,

1:17:00

just because he doesn't, I mean, again,

1:17:03

it's a good story, not a good time. He's got

1:17:06

bad taste in burgers. I've had good burgers. He's got

1:17:08

a weird. I needed a- He's trying to make this

1:17:10

bad burger good, but- I needed a bad burger. These

1:17:13

chili fries on it. The thing is- He's filming you

1:17:15

without asking. I like talking to strangers. I don't know

1:17:17

about Dennis. I think that's part of it. I like

1:17:19

talking to strangers. Yeah, you do.

1:17:21

This is exactly what I was talking about last

1:17:23

week, and because Jesse does as well. But you

1:17:25

don't like talking to Uber drivers. No.

1:17:30

Those strangers, you don't talk to those strangers. I don't. I

1:17:32

like talking to- He does. I like

1:17:34

talking to... I

1:17:39

like getting a reaction from strangers, I

1:17:41

think more specifically. Like

1:17:43

I took it as a compliment that like

1:17:46

Dennis started filming me eating the

1:17:48

burger because he thought I was funny. He

1:17:50

didn't want to forget me or something. I don't know. Maybe

1:17:53

he wanted evidence just

1:17:56

in case. But I... I

1:17:58

mean, I like... I don't know. I

1:18:01

like strangers. It's when you get to know them that

1:18:03

it becomes a problem. I

1:18:09

think it's good for you to travel

1:18:11

alone because I can

1:18:13

imagine that the tenor

1:18:16

of the interaction with Dennis up

1:18:19

into a certain point if I was there would have

1:18:21

made me uncomfortable. Right. Because I would

1:18:24

have been like, he's giving this guy shit. Exactly.

1:18:26

How's he gonna take it? Is he gonna get mad or is

1:18:28

he gonna start filming him? Right. And

1:18:31

I knew he was, I eased into it. I knew he was the

1:18:33

type of guy that could, he could dish

1:18:35

it out and he could take it. I just, I

1:18:37

like meeting this type of people and this is like

1:18:39

no stakes. I

1:18:43

don't know, then it's over. Well,

1:18:47

you tell him you might need to have

1:18:49

like an alter identity or something like an

1:18:51

alter ego. No,

1:18:53

I just, I think it's, you know,

1:18:56

just get it out of my system every now and again

1:18:58

and I go snowboarding by myself. Yeah,

1:19:01

I, yeah, I

1:19:04

don't think I'm gonna do the snowboarding, the

1:19:06

skiing by myself thing. But,

1:19:09

because I'm afraid that if

1:19:12

I fall and get hurt, I kind of need

1:19:14

the person that I came with to be the

1:19:16

one that I didn't interact with. I

1:19:18

don't want to be the guy on the side of

1:19:20

the mountain moaning and just waiting for the next available

1:19:23

person. I

1:19:25

need help, but I'm by myself. See,

1:19:28

but see, that's why I'm good with strangers. Yeah,

1:19:31

I want to be, I want to have... A stranger doesn't

1:19:33

know that I don't deserve to be helped because I've

1:19:35

got myself into this situation. I want to have a

1:19:37

phone where I can contact a person I know and

1:19:39

then they can come and they can interface for me.

1:19:43

You know what I'm saying? Even if it's Shepherd, it'd be like,

1:19:45

Shepherd, you taught this ski patrol. I'm not saying anything. I

1:19:48

don't, and maybe you turn over a new leaf. There's

1:19:50

something fun about depending on the kindness of strangers. Yeah,

1:19:53

and yeah, and I typically, I do not like

1:19:55

to do it. Leave

1:19:59

it to me. Okay,

1:20:03

well there you have it. I

1:20:05

think I was supposed to have a wreck this week. Casey

1:20:08

Musgrave's new album, Deeper Well.

1:20:12

My favorite song on the album is,

1:20:14

right now at least, is the

1:20:18

one about the woods? What's it

1:20:20

called? That's my

1:20:23

recommendation. Heart

1:20:25

of the Woods. Heart of the Woods is my

1:20:27

favorite song on the Deeper

1:20:29

Well album. It's good on earphones.

1:20:34

What do they call it? It's good while snowboarding?

1:20:37

No, I listen to it just in

1:20:40

bed. It's

1:20:42

good in bed, the new Casey Musgrave. It's

1:20:44

good in headphones. Good in bed. Yeah,

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it's ethereal. So that's

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my recommendation. Hashtag

1:20:50

EarBiscuits. You want to call us? 1-888-EARPOD-1. Hey

1:20:53

Rhett and Link, it's Carson.

1:20:58

I just got done listening to Link's driving

1:21:01

fail. And I

1:21:03

feel like you tend to see the car that

1:21:05

you're in possession of more

1:21:08

than any other car. You just notice it more.

1:21:11

I have a Kia Soul and I see

1:21:13

them everywhere and I refer to other Kia

1:21:15

Soul drivers as my Soul Sisters. So

1:21:18

you just got to make it fun, you know?