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This, this, this, this is

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Mythical. Welcome

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to Ear Biscuits, the podcast where two life-long

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friends talk about life for a long time.

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I'm Rhett. And I'm Dizzy. Yeah,

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so just moments ago, right

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when we rolled the cameras,

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Link said, why is the room

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spinning? And just

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to give you a couple, just a

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review of the reactions, Jenna immediately got

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concerned and began

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asking questions like, how

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much water have you had to drink? Do you need to lie

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down? Et cetera. And what I said

0:38

was, let's get this. Let's roll right now. He

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might faint. We might get it on camera. It's

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like the room, it didn't spin. It's

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just like all of a sudden, it's

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like the earth tilted on its axis.

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And then I'm like, huh, why is everything

0:53

doing that? And

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then I look over

0:58

at you and you're like clamoring to

1:00

like start the timer. Yeah, yeah. This

1:04

week at the round table of dim lighting, we

1:07

are diagnosing my vertigo.

1:10

I have, you know, Have you had

1:12

vertigo sessions? I've had a couple of things that have

1:14

happened to me. First

1:17

of all, many years ago, I had that thing where

1:19

like, I had

1:21

an inner, like a

1:23

middle, remember that middle ear deposit?

1:26

I had like classic vertigo and

1:28

it was caused by this like,

1:31

just like a little piece of, I'll

1:33

call it a little piece of sand. Like

1:36

one of the floaty things. Part of an

1:38

Orbe. Inside of your... It never got out.

1:41

You know, inside of your ear, you got these

1:43

like loops. And

1:45

I had to get my physical therapist on the phone

1:47

and like, I did this

1:50

special treatment, remember? A

1:52

series of movements. Yeah, a series of

1:54

movements where... Based on the infrastructure of

1:56

the ear. Where I got the little

1:58

piece of sand to... traverse back to

2:00

where it should have been and that

2:02

was I mean that was a permanent

2:05

piece of sand that's supposed to be in the air yeah

2:08

like there's pieces of things it's

2:11

not sand no it

2:13

isn't like a biological bird that takes

2:15

his body and digest them to like

2:17

do something no it's a

2:19

biological piece of sand yes biological pieces

2:22

of stuff in there that are actually

2:24

what is helps interpret

2:27

balance I'm sure

2:29

the ENTs listening are

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loving it just loving how accurate

2:34

first of all shout out to all

2:36

the ENTs listening I gotta I gotta

2:38

gotta throw some love they got

2:41

three things to keep up with right I mean

2:43

yours noses and throats

2:45

that's right Rhett that

2:47

is what it stands for let

2:49

me think about it yeah I mean they could just

2:52

be a whole doctor and then it could be like

2:54

no you could add more well

2:56

they don't mean TB they don't even take care of

2:58

the mouth they take care of

3:01

the throat the whole part is for

3:03

somebody else's job yeah that's the dintiest

3:05

job I but

3:07

right now I'm still I'm

3:09

still evaluating whether I'm alright

3:11

so thanks for your continued

3:13

concern I think I'm alright it was

3:15

just we'll find out it was this year but like

3:18

you know when I'm when

3:20

I was scuba diving the

3:23

next night I had like inner

3:26

ear middle ear barrow trauma like

3:28

I could not clear I could

3:30

not equalize for

3:33

two days and

3:36

that was very discombobulating but that was my left

3:38

ear this this is kind of in my right

3:40

ear so was the tilting of the earth the

3:42

same thing that you had with the sand piece

3:44

missing moved the sand piece

3:47

was spinning absolute

3:49

spinning to the point of

3:51

like fast spinning not

3:54

even slow this is like

3:56

you know if you have too much to drink it all

3:58

of a sudden you sit up and then everything just

4:02

That's what this just felt like it was kind of slow,

4:04

but I can still see out

4:06

of both my I'm good Well, you know, I'm

4:08

good. We're here. We're rolling. I think I'm good

4:10

it. I mean I've been snowboarding the past two

4:12

days I do want to tell you about that.

4:14

I missed your your post

4:18

You're delayed New Year's Eve party gratification party

4:20

like the way later than New Year's Eve

4:22

New Year's Eve party And I'm interested I

4:24

have some questions for you about that. Okay,

4:26

Christie went to it told me about it

4:29

Yeah, I'm interested in her perspective because I was

4:32

I got some feedback From

4:35

a couple of people that I that intrigued

4:37

me. Okay I

4:39

do want to tell you about something that I

4:41

don't know if you've experienced this yet in Los Angeles This

4:44

particular thing that I'm gonna tell you about but I know that

4:46

you would like it Bring it

4:48

then Yeah,

4:50

I love that like because there's always things that

4:52

you can find out about if you're not as

4:54

a big town If you're not in LA you

4:56

might not know that there has been Somewhat

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of a burger Renaissance. Oh So

5:04

I'm all ears now Angeles has become

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the place to get the best burgers

5:09

in the world, I believe Now

5:13

I believe that this burger Renaissance is

5:15

probably taking place in multiple places in

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the United States But

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there's a bit of a battle in

5:22

Los Angeles for the best Smash

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burger, right? And

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I like all burgers, but smash burger

5:30

Definitely my favorite they're

5:32

the best because they're they're so

5:34

thin Like I'm just

5:37

not a fan of the thick burger and

5:39

then you get a thin burger and a

5:41

slice of cheese And then they then it's

5:43

like if you want it thick We'll just

5:45

add another thin burger and another slice of

5:47

cheese Well, but that is exactly what I

5:49

experienced yesterday as a matter of fact I

5:51

mean, I'm that burger is still with me

5:53

right now Just like your little piece of

5:55

sand that's moving around your ear that little

5:57

burger is in my body moving around It's

6:00

turning to something much less appealing. I

6:03

don't want to talk about that. Why do we always end up talking

6:05

about digestion? We're not. Sorry. Smash

6:07

burgers are my weakness. It's, I mean,

6:09

it may be my favorite... Food.

6:13

I don't, I am, I don't... I

6:16

have a whole, I have a place- So much

6:18

better than pizza to me, like... Well, okay, don't

6:20

speak sacrilege, son. I know Christy would hate me

6:22

for saying that, but I- Pizza? I know it's

6:24

not my thing. It's- Well, I get to a

6:26

certain place. And I

6:28

can't imagine putting anything better in

6:30

my mouth. Well, in terms of

6:32

food. And

6:34

there's, I, there's this peak that gets hit.

6:37

Sometimes it's pizza. Sometimes it's chicken

6:39

tikka masala. Sometimes it's a burger.

6:42

You know, I- Tikka masala! I, I

6:44

hit the roof of possibility of culinary

6:47

enjoyment. And I hit it

6:49

yesterday. And it actually was

6:51

the second choice. So, Shepherd has

6:53

been telling me about a place called... Burgers

6:57

Never Say Die. So if you

6:59

look at... Top 10 Burgers

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in LA, you see there's multiple trucks

7:03

and there's, you know, and, and restaurants

7:05

and... Best Smash Burger,

7:07

I'm saying. Yes. And

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a lot of them are like on the west side or like

7:13

getting into Hollywood and I was like... For

7:15

West Hollywood, I'll thrive. That's too far for

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me. And, um... But...

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He had spent some time with a friend in

7:24

the Los Feliz area. And I

7:26

think this place is in Silver Lake. This Burgers Never Say Die.

7:30

And, um... I

7:32

pick him up and we're all ready to go. And,

7:35

uh... You know, I didn't like, call

7:37

a hit or anything. I didn't think about the fact that it was a

7:40

holiday. They were closed. Oh.

7:43

They were closed. Huh. And

7:45

I was disappointed, but then I was like,

7:47

Shepherd, we got a, we got Smash Burger on

7:49

the brain. We've got to just find the next

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one. So I did a little

7:53

search in the area. And

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up pops. You searched second best

7:57

Smash Burger in the area. I

8:00

just searched Smash Burger on

8:03

Yelp and this other place came up

8:05

and I realized at least on

8:07

Yelp it had more reviews and

8:09

a higher rating than

8:12

burgers never say die and I saw the name of it and I was like

8:16

for the win which is an

8:18

interesting name for the win I've

8:20

heard about this place it's also on the

8:22

list let's go in there. I haven't

8:24

been to either one of these places I

8:26

felt so stupid. Yeah you are stupid for

8:29

not doing this and so was I

8:31

until yesterday Link. For

8:34

the win you would love it. You would love it. Oh it

8:37

was so open. Did you take a picture? Can you

8:39

show me a picture? I was about

8:41

to take a picture but then I realized that the

8:43

pictures that I had seen on the internet were better

8:45

than the one that I was about to take. Of

8:47

course. But

8:49

the signature of this thing which I'll show

8:51

you which you will really really like. Onions.

8:57

Onions in the burger some of them do that

8:59

there's like a certain type of Smash Burger with the

9:01

onions oh my lord. So as you

9:03

can see there's so much the patty

9:05

comes out. Burger just like. Feeling out

9:07

of that bun. The diameter of

9:10

the patty is two inches larger the radius

9:12

is one inch larger you understand how diameter

9:14

and radius work. And you want that edge.

9:16

To the bun. Out of meat to be

9:18

a little crisp. And you can get a

9:20

single a double or a triple I'm not

9:22

a crazy person I got a double and

9:25

the thing as you were describing about a double

9:27

is that these burgers are so thin

9:29

I don't know how they're still together but they just put them on

9:31

top of each other so you have this crazy

9:34

amount of surface area for like the you know whatever

9:36

that happens the char on the grill. And

9:38

they serve them all the same way. Burger

9:44

grilled onions. Their

9:48

burger sauce. Which is

9:50

like probably like their secret Thousand Island type

9:53

thing. And pickles. And

9:55

that's the only three things they put on there now

9:57

they've got like ketchup and mustard and stuff that you

9:59

could like put on your seat. But you know I'm

10:01

not gonna do that. I'm not gonna defile it two

10:03

things about smash burgers that tell you

10:05

that Link thinks they're amazing

10:08

first of all pickles. I Have

10:11

never been a pickle person like

10:14

For all of my days eating Big Macs and

10:16

Big Mac ain't a bad burger. It means it's

10:18

not I mean, I don't

10:20

want to eat them all the time because then you'll come to realize

10:22

that they're not a great burger But

10:25

sometimes if you get a good Big Mac, it's

10:27

not bad, but I've always Don't

10:29

just keep showing me that's what bacon I didn't get the

10:31

bacon one I don't I don't believe you need bacon only

10:34

bacon over this man because it's this what I'm getting

10:36

at with the pickles I would always take the pickles off

10:38

my Big Mac or any burger

10:40

because it's kind of distracting

10:44

but a really good smash

10:46

burger is so Greasy

10:48

and juicy that you need

10:51

something to cut it and

10:53

pickles are the perfect thing And I'm coming around

10:56

to the world of pickles because of it. This

10:58

is the one it's I mean, it's just oozing

11:00

with this is Exactly what my burger coming off

11:02

your screen by Jamie. This is the one that

11:05

I want you to So

11:07

their Instagram is for the win LA paint you want

11:09

Jamie to paint it see that one right there. Can

11:11

you do a painting? Yes, I actually what if I did

11:13

a painting that would be cool, but I'll put it next to

11:15

that picture Yeah, that's the one I'll take

11:17

a little screenshot of that. Okay, so that's what my

11:20

burger looked like. I got a burger I got fries

11:22

and they had milkshakes the chocolate was

11:24

out I got strawberry

11:26

Shepherd got vanilla the second

11:29

thing that lets you

11:31

know that link is master

11:33

boy is I Have

11:36

gone through the trouble to learn how

11:38

to prepare my own Yeah,

11:41

that's questionable No, no,

11:43

I've done the same thing. I'm just saying that what

11:46

I'm a pretty dang good cook and I can't

11:48

get close to this I'm not saying how good

11:50

it is I'm just saying I have

11:52

put forth the effort to actually say

11:55

I'm gonna make smash burgers for my family

11:58

Hey kids, do you want? You wanna invite

12:00

a friend over? I'ma make Smashburgers

12:02

for your friends as well. Let

12:04

me let you consider an analogy

12:06

real quick. So

12:08

I don't think you understand my point. If you

12:10

go to Italy. I'm not bragging. If you go

12:12

to Italy and you see, no, you're not bragging.

12:14

I'm just saying the reason that I have stopped

12:16

making Smashburgers for people in my life. Yeah. Is

12:20

that if you go to Italy

12:23

and you see Michelangelo's David, right,

12:26

wherever that is, somewhere. And

12:28

you look at it and you notice

12:31

the incredible craftsmanship and you notice the

12:33

small penis and the

12:35

other parts of it that are just so exquisite. And

12:39

then you say to yourself, I'm

12:41

gonna go back to my house and I'm going

12:43

to make this. That would be an asinine thing

12:45

to think, right? Where are

12:48

you gonna get the marble? You don't know. You're not trained.

12:50

It's gonna take forever. You don't have the time. Just

12:52

go and look at David. When

12:54

you wanna see David, of all

12:56

the things that I don't cook, which is

12:58

everything, I love them

13:00

so much that I wanna have it in my own house. And

13:03

I feel like I could do it. Now,

13:05

I do indecent.

13:08

Do you see how thin the edges of this are?

13:11

You never, look at

13:13

that. You never have Smashburgers in my house. Okay,

13:16

well, I mean, okay. But those

13:18

are great. The bun is perfect. Those

13:21

ingredients are perfect. Why is anybody making

13:23

a burger that's not a Smashburgers? There's

13:25

people starting burger restaurants in

13:28

different places and they're not making these. It's a

13:30

different thing, Link. It's the

13:33

best thing. Yeah, but it's like saying thin

13:35

crust pizza and deep dish pizza. I see

13:37

them as different foods. So

13:39

a thick- And we'll probably get worn out. A thick,

13:41

I have a preference. I

13:43

like a Smashburgers better. But if I go to a

13:45

restaurant and they have a sick burger and that's the

13:48

burger option and everybody's like, you'll love this burger. I've

13:50

loved many a thick burger. I've loved

13:52

a lot of thick burgers, but

13:55

I've lusted after Smashburgers.

13:58

It's a little slight difference, but I appreciate it. both,

14:00

both things. And you don't have to

14:02

worry about, does the chef think

14:04

that it needs to be like medium rare? Like

14:08

that burger we got last

14:10

week at lunch, and it was a damn good

14:12

burger. But it wasn't cooked enough even for me.

14:14

Yeah, and that was just like- It wasn't medium

14:16

rare, it was rare. It was rare, it

14:18

was way on the rare side. You don't

14:20

have to worry about that with a smile. You gotta try it- For

14:23

the win. I'm not a good judge of milkshakes.

14:25

I'll just be, I know that you have particular

14:28

opinions about milkshakes. I'm kinda like, this

14:31

is good milkshake, but I don't judge

14:33

milkshakes hard. So I can't tell you whether or not

14:36

their milkshakes are great. Their fries are

14:39

very much like in and out. Going for the

14:41

same thing in terms of thin, you

14:44

need to put some salt on them probably if you

14:46

really wanna have a good time, you need to get

14:48

them fresh kind of thing. The burgers are the thing

14:50

that they have perfected. Now I gotta go

14:52

to this burgers never say die because Shepherd

14:54

was like, I don't know which one's better.

14:57

They're pretty similar. I

14:59

can't have two burgers in a row, man. Two days, two burgers? A

15:01

lot of red meat. What are you trying to do to me? You

15:03

gotta cut down on the red meat. Maybe

15:05

this is happening other places in America. I

15:08

don't know, but it's happening in LA and

15:10

it's like an arms race. Let's

15:14

mean you have a little burger date. Next

15:17

time we feel like we've earned a right, we're

15:20

gonna go and get us one of these smash

15:22

burgers. It can be like our Valentine's Day. Valentine's

15:24

Day's coming up. Okay,

15:28

so me and you are gonna go to

15:30

get a burger on Valentine's Day. Yep, for every

15:32

year for the rest of our lives. There

15:36

might be a, maybe we just need a burger

15:38

date. Is there an international burger date? I want

15:40

it to be Valentine's Day. Well,

15:42

I think I might have plans for my life. Well, it doesn't have to

15:44

be on the day. Me and Lily have

15:46

a thing every Valentine's Day and

15:49

of course me and Christy have something.

15:51

But the 14th is not sacred to

15:53

us. Oh, okay. As

15:56

long as it's within the season. The

15:59

month of February. Yeah, then we can get

16:01

our burger and you

16:04

know what? We have our own little burger Valentine's

16:06

date. Cause if we just have a burger date,

16:08

then it's like, y'all have a date? It's like,

16:10

yeah, but it's Valentine's day. Oh, okay. Is

16:14

that better? Okay. Yeah. I

16:17

mean, whatever you want. It makes it, if

16:20

you want to go get a burger in February and

16:22

you want it to be a Valentine's day thing, that's

16:24

awesome. Every year and I want to look forward to

16:26

it. Do we only get to go get burgers in

16:28

February? Yeah.

16:32

It's a baseline. I

16:34

need to know that once a year is going to

16:36

happen. I'm sitting the

16:38

bar low, man. We got to start somewhere. I

16:41

need to warn you how messy I got. How messy my

16:43

face got. This beard, this beard

16:45

and that burger. I almost

16:48

felt embarrassed. I was glad I was facing the

16:50

wall. Let me tell you that much. That's the

16:52

beauty of us having this date is that we're

16:54

not attracted to each other. I got it. And we

16:56

don't care what each other looks like. Well, there's no

16:58

romance. This is the thing. It's

17:00

not that I think you're attracted to me. It's

17:02

platonic. It's that platonic. Do you see the amount

17:04

of burger sauce that got into my beard when

17:07

I ate that burger? I think it would be

17:09

unappetizing. I think I would need to face away from

17:11

you. I don't look at you. Or maybe we go

17:13

in shifts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You stand

17:15

outside while I eat. There you go. No, actually you eat first because

17:17

I'm still gonna have burger on my face when I come back out.

17:19

I don't want you, that'd be the last thing you do. Go in

17:21

it. All right, you go in. I'm gonna go

17:23

in first. You go in after me. That's how our date works. I

17:27

had to find water. A

17:29

napkin was not enough. Wait,

17:31

were you in the desert? You

17:34

had to find water. I had to wet a

17:36

napkin. I had to make my own wet wet

17:38

wet in order to get

17:40

out of there without looking like a fool. I

17:48

highly recommend it. Yeah, so our burger date, we

17:50

will eat the burgers in shifts. We will not

17:52

be seeing together having a burger date. What are

17:54

you guys doing? We're on a Valentine's Day date.

17:56

Well, actually, I mean, he's in there right now.

17:58

He and the burger. in a little bit. Right.

18:04

Hey, you guys, speaking of love,

18:06

speaking of Valentine's Day, this

18:09

would be a wonderful thing for you to get for yourself or

18:11

for the one that you love. It is

18:13

the Cotton Candy Randy, what

18:17

are we calling this? It's a Valentine's Day tea.

18:19

It's, I don't know what we want. It

18:21

doesn't matter what you call it. It's a T-shirt. This says,

18:23

will you eat my chocolate from

18:26

Randy? I made it myself and I

18:28

won't say how. Right, a

18:30

little bit of gross, but you know us. And here's the thing,

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18:35

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18:38

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18:40

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20:33

You know what, I might get

20:35

emotional about this. Jenna, can you throw

20:37

me that box of tissue,

20:40

nose tissue? Is

20:42

it empty? I don't know. I

20:44

don't get a camera. You're

20:51

in athletic mode today. Oh, I kind

20:53

of am. And then right on

20:55

cue, Jenna, about took out her

20:57

entire death by trying to walk

20:59

through it to get back to

21:02

her seat. It was an athletic

21:04

move, though. Are you dizzy,

21:06

too? No, I caught

21:08

everything. Nothing fell. You're an athlete. You're

21:11

an athletic motor, but, but, but, but, but. The

21:15

only better timing that I've ever seen, I

21:19

have to tell this story because it reminds me so much of

21:21

it. You just experienced a fraction of it.

21:24

Was the time my brother-in-law, Chris,

21:26

had just been at my brother's

21:28

house and had

21:30

repaired a broken rocking chair, a

21:33

rocking chair that had been completely

21:35

like multiple pieces. Like an antique,

21:37

an older one? He spent some

21:39

time, like 20, 30 minutes or

21:41

whatever, piecing it back together. And

21:43

then he sits in the chair and he starts rocking in

21:45

the chair. And everybody's like, Chris,

21:48

you did it, you made, and then his wife, Ashley,

21:50

says, he's pretty

21:53

handy. And literally as she

21:55

finished the word handy, the entire chair

21:57

collapsed. And he fell to the floor and

21:59

he was like. He was like, it

22:01

wasn't even there. He was like a cartoon. Yeah,

22:03

he was like boom, all the way to the

22:05

floor. Rocking chair everywhere. It's

22:07

pretty handy. Boom! It's

22:12

one of my favorite moments in life that

22:14

I've experienced. He is

22:16

pretty handy though. So you're in a, you

22:18

know, we don't make

22:21

a practice of commenting on each

22:23

other's ensembles usually. I mean, well,

22:26

we don't. But I

22:28

do. But

22:30

Jenna does. You might be the most likely to do

22:32

so. You're in athletic mode today. Yeah, thank you.

22:36

It's to make myself go to the gym

22:38

afterwards. Oh yeah. Okay. I'm

22:41

already in the outfit. I'm ready. I'm going to go

22:43

do it. I thought you might be a part

22:45

of a location scout today. Oh, okay. When

22:47

I saw you in the parking lot, you were waiting and

22:49

I was like, okay, they must be going in location scouting

22:52

today. I'm

22:54

in like mobility mode. I

22:56

like that. I like that. I like

22:58

different modes. I'm coming off of two

23:01

days of snowboarding. And

23:03

I want to tell you about it because

23:05

I just, I have some thoughts about

23:07

it. I went with Lincoln and one

23:10

of my boys from the

23:12

Scooter Club, one of the guys. Fellow

23:16

snowboarder is also

23:18

a snowboarder. He had plans

23:20

to go with his daughter this

23:22

past weekend and then she

23:25

had to bail. And so

23:27

then he was like, hey, I got this condo. I'm still

23:29

going. I got another bed. Does anybody

23:31

else want to go? And my

23:34

big Christmas present to

23:37

myself was a snowboard.

23:40

And Lincoln's big Christmas

23:42

present was a snowboard. And

23:45

actually the reason why we bought snowboards was

23:47

my friend Will was like talking it up

23:49

because, you know, I'd switched to skiing. Years

23:53

ago when you decided to switch to skiing and you

23:55

were like, you know, it's like this is

23:57

going to take us into our old age, you know. You

24:00

can't be a snowboarder forever. You gotta

24:02

be, skiing is, skiing is

24:04

the future. To be specific, for

24:06

me, for you. I

24:08

wasn't telling you that you needed to switch. But I was

24:11

listening. I switched because

24:13

of my back. Skiing

24:16

harder on the knees, better on the back. Snowboarding

24:20

harder on the back, easier on the knees. Okay. That

24:23

might be a rough generalization, but. And it

24:25

may be. You fall on your butt a lot,

24:27

and if you catch an edge, the

24:29

way that it messes with my lower back, snowboarding,

24:31

I just kinda had to give it up. Even

24:33

though I really liked it. I liked it more

24:35

than skiing. I felt like I wanted to make

24:37

that transition, and it would be a good time

24:40

to do it along with you. And then the

24:42

kids were learning, kinda

24:44

trying to learn how to ski. And this is

24:46

like, what, over the past decade? Maybe

24:49

eight years. But

24:51

then he was like, the

24:54

last spring break trip

24:56

that we took, Lincoln and his friends

24:58

tried snowboarding. Lincoln absolutely loved it. And

25:01

then I tried it one day, remember I told you, and

25:03

I was like, see if it would come back from

25:05

all the years I snowboarded. I've still snowboarded

25:07

a lot more years than I have skied.

25:12

And was immediately still better than skiing.

25:14

So I was like, man, this is

25:16

still more fun. So

25:19

then my friend Will was like, you know, you can get

25:21

a, if you're getting a snowboard kit

25:24

now you can get one of these

25:26

where it's like, you can step right

25:28

in, like step-ons. There's no straps. Right.

25:32

You got this nice boot that then goes

25:34

into this special binding and it hooks in

25:37

the heel and then hooks on either side

25:39

of your front, your

25:41

toes, the right and left. So

25:44

you just kinda click in, and then you don't

25:47

have to sit your butt down on the snow

25:49

and like do all the straps and all

25:51

this stuff. That would be essential

25:53

to me. Cause also the sitting down

25:56

and then standing up is high

25:58

in the snow. hard on

26:00

my back as well. So that's what we got. How do

26:02

you get out of it? There's

26:05

a little lever on the outside of the back heel

26:07

and you just pull it up and let it. So

26:09

you have to bend down and grab that. You just

26:11

kind of, you just, you can do

26:13

that while you're still going. You're getting back to the

26:15

lift and. But you're squatting down, you're squatting down to

26:17

do that? No you just bend over. I mean how

26:19

do you touch your heel? You

26:22

bend over the seatbelt. Well

26:24

I don't, I don't want, you have to bend over. Yeah

26:26

yeah I'm just saying I grab my heel. I try to

26:28

minimize the amount of that. I pull the, I'm just gauging

26:30

this for myself. Pull the lever up on

26:33

my back foot, my trailing foot and

26:35

then your heel comes out

26:37

and then you twist your front feet and it

26:39

comes out and it's like the simplest thing ever.

26:41

Okay. There's no getting used to it. Like

26:44

the first run that we took down the mountain,

26:47

I was shaky because

26:49

it had been almost a year since I've

26:51

snowboarded and like you know you got to

26:54

get your mojo back. Did you bust at all? The

26:57

first time you did it did you bust? No.

27:01

Because you're just going slow and like keeping it. Yeah just taking

27:03

it easy. But

27:06

it was, there wasn't a material difference

27:09

in the experience of like these step-ons

27:11

versus like having normal

27:14

bindings like super happy with

27:16

it. And. And

27:18

the boots that you're in, are they

27:20

stiffer than a normal snowboard boot? Yeah

27:22

a little bit. But they're not like

27:24

a ski boot? No. Ankles are not

27:26

stiff? No no no. Just the bottoms?

27:29

It's like you tighten, I mean

27:31

you want it to be very

27:33

rigid and very tight but like

27:35

the way that you have these

27:37

like this boa system is what

27:39

they call it where it's like wires that like you

27:42

just like crank down these knobs and it like pulls

27:44

it all together. And like the

27:46

technology is just amazing. And

27:49

so it was very exciting to have these

27:51

things and like to try out our

27:53

Christmas gifts. And we're on

27:55

the lift and like Lincoln

27:59

doesn't And he's

28:01

not talkative in general. And

28:05

if he's really enjoying something, he doesn't gush. You kind

28:07

of have to like really

28:09

listen closely and realize that, oh, this is

28:11

Middle Child Lincoln's

28:14

version of gushing. We're

28:16

on the lift going up. We had done like a

28:18

few runs on the first day and he was like,

28:22

dad, what do you think the best thing ever is to do?

28:25

And I was like, this is pretty

28:27

good. Maybe this is up here. I think

28:29

this is it. Wow,

28:31

that's a hearty endorsement. It makes me

28:33

feel good. You know, I ushered

28:36

him into this world and he's like, I love it.

28:39

We scuba dive together. We did that New

28:41

Zealand. We're doing the snowboarding together. I

28:44

got him into the one wheels just like Shepherd

28:47

does. Did

28:50

he say that one wheeling translates

28:52

well to snowboarding because that's what

28:54

Shepherd has read. That's why he

28:56

wants to do it because it's a one wheel theme. Yeah,

28:59

it certainly helps. I

29:01

mean, you still don't have the edge experience. With

29:07

snowboarding, you got to know it's all about

29:09

carving on your edges and stuff, but it's

29:11

the same feel. So

29:15

yeah, I think it definitely helps. But

29:18

I was like, yeah, what is

29:20

the best thing, like the best

29:22

experience? And the more I

29:24

thought about it, I was like, well, mountain bike

29:26

a lot. It's convenient. I don't have to drive

29:28

like five hours to do it like I do

29:30

for snowboarding. I don't have to, you

29:34

know, scuba diving is really amazing.

29:36

It's otherworldly. But

29:39

you do just like, you do a

29:41

day trip. It has a couple of dives and

29:44

you see you're dedicating this whole day for like

29:48

two or three 45 to 60 minute

29:50

experiences. But

29:54

by the time you get to like a mountain and

29:57

if it's decent or

29:59

good condition. not even like

30:01

great and most fabulous, it

30:05

may be the best activity. It's just

30:07

so much fun to be

30:09

on the mountain, man, to

30:11

be snowboarding. We had so much fun. I

30:16

love it. I'm realizing how it's so

30:18

I'm ranking snowboarding. I'm agreeing with Lincoln.

30:20

I think I'm ranking it number one

30:22

for me. Wouldn't you say

30:25

activities? With clothes on. That

30:27

is what I was like, son. I was like activities

30:30

with clothes on. I think

30:33

that snowboarding is now my number one. I think

30:37

mountain biking may be a lot with your clothes

30:39

on. May be my number two. Why don't you

30:41

just say nonsexual? Yeah, I'll just say non-sex. Outside

30:43

of the world of sex, snowboarding is

30:45

it for you? Better than eating? Oh,

30:47

100% better than

30:50

eating. Oh, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. Number

30:52

one, sex, number two, eating. And then

30:54

we get into physical activities. For

30:57

me, okay, for me, I'll put sex

30:59

is number one. I'm gonna put snowboarding

31:01

is number two. I'm

31:03

gonna put, and I want to

31:05

hear your list, I'm gonna put mountain

31:07

biking at number three is a close

31:09

shave above scuba diving

31:11

because scuba diving is just so amazing.

31:16

I don't know if I'm prepared to make a list here. You

31:19

gotta make a list because I want to know what's,

31:22

and you can put food on this list. I'm putting food

31:24

on my list, scuba diving. You put

31:26

food after mountain biking? And then after, oh,

31:29

definitely. A smash burger that we just talked

31:31

about? I would, I

31:33

would, the

31:35

way that you feel about clothes that you would wear

31:38

the same outfit every day is the way that I

31:40

feel about food. I,

31:42

I would, I would give up, as

31:45

long as I liked it, I would eat my smoothie

31:47

every day, every meal, and just get it over with.

31:50

As much as, I do enjoy food, but I don't,

31:52

I, I observe how people who really enjoy food,

31:55

like you, well I'm jealous of you because you

31:57

really, really enjoy food. it

32:00

can make discipline very difficult. I don't, yeah,

32:03

I don't have that. So

32:05

then it comes, then after that I'm gonna put

32:07

food. No, I will say, you know, I think

32:09

I'm gonna put naps before food. You can't just

32:11

eat Smashburgers all day though. What I'm

32:14

saying is that not a

32:16

cumulative experience, but when

32:19

you get that Smashburger and when you take

32:21

that first bite and then like maybe the

32:23

next four to six bites, that

32:27

period of time, which I recognize is, for

32:30

me, it's about 45 seconds. We're

32:32

talking sub-minute here. That's an

32:34

incredible minute. Now, I can't, hold on,

32:36

are we talking about sex now? I

32:39

can't sustain, talking about

32:42

burgers, I can't sustain that for

32:44

very long. So scuba

32:46

diving, cumulative

32:49

experience is much more pleasurable

32:52

time. I don't know how to measure that.

32:54

It's like measuring like what is work, you

32:57

know? Is it the amount of

32:59

weight that you move over? There

33:02

is a definition, I can't remember because we

33:04

make internet videos now. But

33:06

like the amount of time that you put in. Force

33:08

over distance or time, yeah, time,

33:10

right. I don't know, I don't know. So

33:13

pleasure can be measured in some sort of

33:15

similar, by some metric,

33:17

that time. So, but

33:19

we are now- Flight pleasure forever.

33:21

We are now ranking pleasure experiences.

33:24

And you know what, if, Jenna,

33:27

Jamie, if you wanna develop

33:29

your list, you can throw it in here. I

33:32

am now developing mine as my number one

33:35

is sex in every form,

33:38

all the sexual activities. Every

33:41

form? Every form that I

33:44

enjoy. I

33:46

mean, okay,

33:48

then I'm gonna put snowboarding. That

33:51

was starting to seem weird. Yeah. Because

33:54

now we're adding like food and naps and everything into

33:56

it. And then after-

34:00

After snowboarding, I think I'm gonna put naps

34:02

with my dogs. I'll

34:05

call another thing. What about surfing? I'm,

34:08

okay, I'll take that into account. I'm

34:11

now moving naps with my dogs

34:13

up to number three. And

34:16

then I'm putting mountain biking and then I'm putting scuba

34:18

diving just on the heels of that. And

34:20

then I'm putting eating

34:25

the most pleasurable foods to me.

34:29

Okay. And then after that, what

34:32

do I get in a massage? You

34:34

really like those? Then after that, I'm gonna

34:36

put a massage. I think

34:38

you like massages more than eating based on what I've seen.

34:43

Yeah, because I will, if I'm

34:45

really hungry, I won't eat before a massage. You

34:47

ever try eating during a massage? No, or I

34:49

don't like to eat right before a massage. You

34:52

don't wanna do that. Well, let's get a restaurant going. Smash

34:55

burger. Oh, smash you back

34:57

burger? We mash you back while we're smashing the

34:59

burger. Smash, smash.

35:03

So it'd just be mash, mash burgers.

35:06

And we feed the burger. And you're the thing mash. We feed

35:08

the burger through the hole that your face is coming down to.

35:13

And it, but it's toward the second half of the

35:15

massage. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:17

Well, it's once they, well, they start your

35:19

face. Where we're at, you start

35:21

face up. What do you mean

35:23

where we're at? Oh, at our restaurant. Typically you

35:26

start face down and then turn face up. We

35:28

start the massage face up. Yeah. And

35:30

we turn you over, give you a burger. Yeah,

35:35

okay. Yeah, you finish with a

35:37

milkshake. Right.

35:41

Right through the hole. Yeah, we'll

35:43

look into it. So what is your list? Who's

35:45

prepared to go next? You

35:49

can add anything to it. What's your number one? This

35:52

isn't how my brain works. My brain doesn't organize

35:54

pleasurable experiences. It brings them

35:57

all just like burgers or

35:59

food. to a place where I am

36:02

in a certain state. Are

36:04

you talking about like you like to have a

36:06

rotation where it's like you give

36:08

them all, no I'm saying- It's like they're

36:10

your babies and you're giving them all attention.

36:12

My pleasure receptors are pinged fully at

36:15

certain states. You

36:18

have to rank them dude. No I don't, I don't

36:20

have to rank them. So catching

36:22

a wave and again I'm much more

36:24

about what is the moment within the

36:26

experience because every single thing that you've

36:28

mentioned, require like

36:31

mountain biking requires a lot

36:34

of work to get to the top of the

36:36

mountain before you start having fun. That's the problem

36:38

with it. And now it makes that moment that

36:40

much more fun because it's that much more rewarding

36:43

but it's hell getting up the mountain, right? Stupid

36:46

diving like you said, especially in California, especially

36:49

if you're on a boat going out to

36:51

a good spot, the

36:54

time, the preparation, the equipment, getting

36:56

the damn equipment on. Nausea.

37:01

For that moment, that's

37:03

why eating is so much easier because all I gotta do

37:05

is just go into a restaurant. Yeah,

37:08

the work, I drove there. I

37:11

didn't climb to it. Yeah, I mean- You know

37:13

what I'm saying? You just have to pay for

37:16

it, that's the only second. Catching a wave, which

37:18

I'm not a good surfer, you're better surfer than

37:20

me and you're not a good surfer. I suck

37:22

at it. And I'm worse than you. But

37:26

when you get a wave, and

37:29

like that time I got a wave and a dolphin took

37:31

it with you. But you're thinking

37:33

about just that moment. That moment. I'm not asking

37:35

you to- I'm asking you to- I hit the

37:37

ceiling. Rank activity. I can't do it. Not moments.

37:39

I can't do it, but what I am interested

37:41

in, because

37:46

you're really tempting me to try

37:48

to snowboard. I

37:51

know, dude. But I just don't

37:53

know- You're still so much better at it than skiing. I

37:56

got a lot better at skiing. Like, can

37:58

we- I want to pause. I got

38:00

better at skiing. I want to put a

38:02

pin in pretty good at skiing this conversation I want to have

38:04

this conversation But I want to

38:07

finish the ranking conversation and if you're not

38:09

gonna participate I will find others who will

38:11

I Refuse to participate

38:13

because it would be dishonest. Okay, can

38:16

you all help me out here? I mean you don't however you

38:18

want to do it. Is there something we're missing what's like I

38:21

Mean well, I think you're right

38:23

I think most people are gonna put sex first cuz

38:25

I mean come on. That's just great I'd

38:29

hike I personally cannot

38:32

Snowboard or ski I have tried and you

38:34

know, I don't have her your list of

38:36

mine I like jet skiing

38:38

a lot. Yeah, I'm saying is

38:41

Jamie's number two Well,

38:43

no, it goes sex eating jet skiing Okay,

38:46

cuz I'm all about food Like if I

38:48

could just like if I could never get fat like I

38:50

would just eat constantly would be what

38:52

I would do But jet

38:54

skiing I think it's really fun cuz you

38:56

go really fast you're on a vehicle thing, but you're

38:58

in the water I like being in the water and

39:00

I like going fast and like so that's really fun

39:02

and I really liked ATV

39:05

riding in the sand dunes That's

39:08

fine, too. Yeah, that's that's super fun. And that's like

39:10

I mean, it took me a minute to get used

39:12

to it Once I got used to it, you're like,

39:14

oh, there's so many possibilities. Where do you go? Jet

39:16

ski? I got to get Christie on a jet ski,

39:18

uh, San Diego like in Mission Bay It's

39:21

like super fun over there. You can

39:23

go by that big that big boat

39:25

the something USS something Yeah, we are

39:28

the battleship. Yeah, we see where

39:30

my mind goes as you talk about these things and

39:33

Incidentally, this is where the idea for the

39:35

seven seals of satisfaction came from buddy system

39:38

season two This is

39:40

this is doing them all at once Is

39:43

that yeah. Yeah, yeah my when you talk

39:45

about you said Sex

39:47

eating and jet skiing and I immediately just pictured

39:49

myself doing all three at the same time. I

39:51

don't know why But

39:55

again, I'm trying to max yeah

39:57

the moment I can't use

39:59

certain wanting me to put this into a list and

40:01

I just started wanting to combine the things and create

40:03

a new experience. That would be awesome. Yeah.

40:05

If you could do that, if there was a way to

40:07

stay on the jet ski and do all of those things,

40:09

like how amazing would that experience be? Yeah. You

40:12

can definitely eat on a jet ski. What is that called? I

40:14

mean, you're talking about alien getting a massage.

40:17

Sex ski is having

40:19

sex on a jet ski. Yeah.

40:22

It's like sex ski brunch. Yeah.

40:24

Yeah. Yeah. Where the mimosa. Yeah.

40:27

I mean, if I could put drinking in there, that's

40:29

probably. Yeah, we don't have drinking.

40:32

Okay. Um, Jenna,

40:35

what are you bringing to this? I put

40:37

you on the spot here. I'm, I don't

40:39

think I could rank either. Cause I'm one of

40:41

those, like, uh, if I would rank it, I'd

40:43

rank it on like the new

40:45

experiences I've tried. Like it's always the

40:47

new thing. Like,

40:49

uh, when I, when I

40:51

did like, you

40:53

know, when I went skydiving, I was like, that

40:55

was like the best thing. But

40:58

I did it once and maybe I'll do it

41:00

again, but it's not like. You don't

41:02

want to do it every weekend. No, no. Something

41:04

I would do every weekend. Um,

41:09

sex and eating, um, every weekend. I,

41:13

I'm a skier. I'm not a snowboarder. I

41:15

tried snowboarding and my knees, um, my knees,

41:17

my knees didn't like me at all. Huh?

41:20

So skiing is much easier on my

41:22

body. There's something about

41:24

being on the, on

41:26

the mountain and it can be so quiet. Like

41:28

the snow makes everything so quiet. And if you're

41:30

at a space with like good

41:33

conditions and not a lot

41:35

of people, I mean,

41:37

if you can find yourself on a slope, like

41:41

just on your own, it's, or

41:43

just with like a loved one or something. You

41:45

can't do that at Big Bear. You have to go to

41:47

Mammoth to do that. We were at Mammoth and it was,

41:49

uh, it was still, you know,

41:51

you're not going to find that much space, but there's

41:54

just something totally zen

41:56

about it. It's totally peaceful.

41:59

And. And you can be in your own world. And

42:03

Jenna, like you're saying, knowing

42:05

the parameters of your body and

42:07

working within, like

42:09

they always put ski within

42:12

your ability. You don't want

42:14

to damage yourself or hurt other people.

42:16

I mean, that's one of the major ways people

42:19

get injured is like collisions. But

42:21

if you can just make up your

42:23

mind, and I'm really doing a

42:25

much better job at this now that I've revisited

42:27

snowboarding, like the way that we used to snowboard

42:30

was like The way that you used to snowboard. Balls

42:32

to the wall. That's literally what I did. I've always

42:34

exercised caution because I've been so injury

42:37

prone. So I never pushed

42:39

it like you did. But I

42:41

felt like if I wasn't achieving something

42:44

or getting really good and pulling off some

42:46

sort of trick that I

42:48

wasn't doing it right. And now, you know,

42:50

I'm a middle aged man. So are

42:52

you jumping at all? No! Uh-uh.

42:55

I'm starving and I'm just like, it

42:58

feels like I'm painting with my

43:00

feet. It's

43:03

just, it can be the most

43:06

relaxing and rewarding. And you can

43:08

get into a, what's it called?

43:11

A zone, a flow state.

43:16

You can get into a flow state on a jet ski, I bet.

43:19

Yeah, as long as there's like not a lot of boats

43:21

around. I think so. Okay,

43:24

but let's talk about the flow state. Let's

43:26

talk about the snowboarding versus skiing. Because

43:29

do you think that if

43:32

you had, if

43:37

you had gotten, you didn't ski as much as I

43:39

did. Like once we started skiing, I went like maybe

43:42

five or six times more than you did. Yeah,

43:44

I never got good enough. I got where I

43:46

could do, I mean,

43:49

I could, you know, go down

43:51

a black, but it would be completely pointless for me

43:53

to do it because I'm just like skidding the whole

43:55

time, just go slow. But like blues.

44:00

You know, blues in like whatever between, sometimes

44:02

places have blue between blue and black. Yeah, like

44:04

a blue-black thing. But

44:06

mostly like blues and like not

44:09

going too fast. Like you said,

44:11

just carving. I got where I was having a really

44:13

good time. I will say though,

44:15

the thing that never leaves my mind, and I

44:17

think this might be something that keeps me from

44:19

having a great time, is

44:22

just the thought of eating

44:25

it. Yeah. Running into somebody,

44:27

having someone run into me, hitting a

44:29

weird patch. And.

44:33

Yeah. You know, when I

44:36

got my concussion on the snowboard, it

44:38

was because I caught an edge. And it's just like

44:41

catching an edge with a snowboard is much easier

44:43

to do than it is with skis. Yeah,

44:45

just like you can get slammed. And well,

44:49

I guess my question before I go into that, it's

44:52

like, if you had gotten

44:54

good enough at skiing, do you think

44:56

you could reach a flow state? Yeah,

44:58

definitely. Definitely. Right,

45:00

I'm just trying to make sure there's not a

45:02

definitive difference because you see the people, there's

45:06

something about being in that position,

45:08

which is like a skateboard slash

45:10

one wheel slash surf position. Yeah.

45:13

It obviously looks cooler because

45:15

culturally, it's cooler to be in

45:17

that position because of the other sports that are associated

45:20

with it. So I think that's why Shepard

45:22

wants to do it. That's why Lincoln wants to do it.

45:24

Like I think that teens want to do it because it's

45:26

clearly cooler than skiing, right? I just want

45:29

to do it because I'm better at it

45:32

and I can enjoy it versus with skiing, I'm still

45:34

trying to get to a point. I want to believe

45:36

that, I'm tempted to believe

45:38

that it's more fun than skiing, but

45:40

I can't let myself believe that too much because I

45:42

just don't think it's worth the risk. Well,

45:47

when we go together on a ski

45:50

trip, now because I can just step in,

45:52

you're not waiting on me. So it's very

45:54

similar experience. The

45:57

thing that I was thinking about was like, can

46:00

I snowboard into old age? Like you

46:02

see a bunch of people, a bunch

46:04

of old guys skiing, just

46:06

like, it's like golf on snow. It's

46:08

like that, there's that many old

46:11

people ski. And

46:13

it, that really gives, gave me

46:15

hope with skiing that it could be a

46:18

long term, you know,

46:20

rewarding adventure. You don't see

46:22

a lot of 70 plus year

46:24

olds snowboarding.

46:28

But, and that must be because of the, the,

46:30

the way the injuries. I don't know. I think

46:32

it's just because there's less of

46:34

them do it to begin with. I think it's

46:36

because the sport is younger. Yeah, they just haven't

46:39

got it. The old snowboarders haven't happened yet. That's

46:41

now my hope. You know,

46:43

I mean, to be able to

46:45

ski or snowboard or whatever, like

46:47

any type of type of like

46:49

physical activity. And it was very much on my

46:51

mind driving back yesterday. The thing I like about it is that

46:55

it says, okay, it tells me this

46:58

is something I can work towards in terms

47:00

of fitness. Like I've got to stay at

47:02

a certain level of fitness so that I

47:04

can continue to enjoy this activity. That apparently

47:07

is my number two activity, you

47:09

know, up until like, I'm 80

47:11

years old. So, so I

47:14

got a 80,

47:19

75. Like the consequences

47:21

of a fall

47:25

increase with age and

47:27

because me out of it, talk me

47:29

into fitness. I'm just saying because that

47:31

was my point. If

47:33

you get hurt snowboarding, it's probably gonna

47:35

be because some jack leg who just

47:37

learned how to ski runs into you.

47:40

Yeah, we got to learn to be very defensive.

47:43

Sometimes you don't see him. Yeah, I know. I

47:46

know. But I

47:48

think I could right

47:50

now I'm just saying it, it elides

47:52

my motivations, you know, to enjoy mountain biking, you

47:55

got to be a certain level of fitness to

47:57

joy, you know, to enjoy.

47:59

Oh, yeah. snowboarding. So like,

48:02

I gotta start doing, I gotta start doing

48:04

some more weights

48:06

or something. Yeah.

48:09

So that's where I'm at. We

48:12

had a great time. I did not, I

48:14

ate it a few times, but it's mostly

48:16

like coming off of the lift or…

48:20

So when you come off the lift, it's

48:22

the same thing. You got one, you got one, you

48:24

got a front foot in. Yeah. Back foot just kind

48:26

of goes on the board. Yeah. I'm

48:29

pretty good at that though. Those

48:32

are the things that I kind of forgot about. And

48:34

then when I went skiing, I was very grateful. Like

48:36

getting off the lift is such a breeze. And then

48:38

you just, you just keep going. Yeah. And also when

48:40

you get to the flat parts. Yep.

48:42

That's a breeze. I'm fine with getting off

48:44

the lift, but it is, it

48:47

requires concentration. The

48:49

flat parts, there's no way around it. You

48:51

know, I can easily pop my foot out and then start,

48:54

you know, kick push type thing. But can

48:56

skiers and snowboarders really hang? I mean, that's the thing. If

48:58

we go on the mountain, can we really be friends? I

49:01

think it's gonna be like the burger thing. I think you

49:03

go down, I go down, we meet later and talk about

49:05

it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we can be seen on

49:07

the lift together. Yeah. It's

49:10

a fox and the hound situation. Yeah. Yeah.

49:19

Well, you missed my party because

49:21

of this. It's totally worth it.

49:23

I think Christie was telling me that

49:25

like, she was like, there

49:28

were people everywhere. First of

49:30

all, like the amount of turnout, like

49:32

I've never seen as many people at your

49:34

house as Christie described. She was like, there

49:38

were people everywhere. It wasn't like there wasn't a

49:40

place you could go to like have

49:42

a little space. It was a good crowd.

49:44

I was like, first of all, that's

49:47

a good party. When you were

49:49

concerned about turnout because it was a New Year's

49:51

Eve party and then got moved a month later

49:53

and then people didn't even know. Well, not a

49:55

month later, two weeks later. She

50:01

had a good turnout. Well, so the

50:03

original conception of the party was Jesse's

50:06

idea. And you know, I have this,

50:10

as I've talked about on this

50:12

very show, I had this desire to

50:14

do these events that

50:16

are not just normal parties. You

50:18

know, and I felt like when Jesse had this idea

50:20

for a New Year's Eve party, and she was like, and

50:22

it was the last minute thing at the time, because it

50:24

was two weeks until New Year's and she

50:26

was like, let's just have a party with just

50:29

whoever happens to be in town during New Year's Eve,

50:31

which in LA, it's not a lot of people. Most

50:34

people are from somewhere else. They go back home whenever

50:36

you're traveling. And

50:39

then once we started kind of putting together the list,

50:44

we started realizing

50:46

this is a really interesting mix of

50:48

people because it's people that she knows that I don't

50:50

really know, people that I know that she doesn't really

50:52

know, people that I know through

50:55

what I do, but also our friends,

50:58

collective friends and parents

51:00

of kids that our

51:03

kids are friends with. And

51:06

I've never mixed that those groups of people

51:08

other than maybe like my birthday, 40th birthday

51:11

party, which was, you know, also had a

51:13

bunch of mythical people. It was massive. But

51:16

I haven't had a party like this in a really long time. I

51:20

was a little bit like, oh, well, this guy's going to

51:22

come and, you

51:25

know, there was at least 15 people

51:29

that had

51:31

never been to our house before and

51:33

had never had maybe

51:36

met the

51:38

other half of the couple and

51:40

Jesse once or none. So

51:43

how many, you know, the total that was there then

51:45

60. No,

51:47

no, no, no. Christy made

51:49

it seem like there was like 60 people there

51:51

max 40. Okay. Well,

51:56

and, but you had a bar,

51:58

you had an open bar, but it. It was

52:00

coffee. Well we

52:02

had a coffee bar because Jesse did that for

52:04

a Locks graduation party where you can get somebody

52:07

who's just gonna make coffee drinks. People

52:09

like to drink night coffees? Well

52:12

they certainly did at Locks graduation party. Now

52:14

they have decaf everything. Okay. That's

52:16

a good idea. The coffee bar was

52:19

not popular enough to do it

52:21

again. That was the conclusion we came to. And

52:24

then we had like our little bar

52:26

area just had like wine, champagne, beer,

52:29

liquor, you can mix it, whatever. You can kind of make

52:32

your own thing. I

52:34

think I would actually do a bartender who was

52:36

making drinks next time versus a

52:38

barter. And then they can make a coffee drink

52:40

too. Maybe I don't wanna

52:42

make a, I mean maybe espresso martini, I don't know, I

52:44

don't wanna. Yeah, I wanna speak for them. That's what I

52:46

would have. I'll

52:49

get to the main event in a second. Which

52:53

is sort of the taking a baby step

52:55

towards what some people

52:57

might call a salon type event. You know what

52:59

I'm saying? That's what they would call it out

53:01

here, right? That's a lot. A

53:03

salon is like when people. That's where my

53:05

grandma gets her hair did. People gather and

53:07

then there's like something that happens from a

53:09

person or, and we talked about the pasta

53:13

and PowerPoint idea. Doing something like that and

53:15

doing something like a group activity that was

53:17

fun. Well

53:21

because it was a New Year's Eve party, we

53:23

originally were planning on ringing in

53:25

the New Year. That

53:28

wasn't happening. So what I did

53:30

that got some good

53:32

feedback was I just put, I went

53:35

on YouTube and got like the late

53:37

70s, early 80s and some 90s. Dick

53:41

Clark's rocking New Year's Eve, whatever. They're just on

53:43

YouTube and just put them on a playlist and

53:45

so it was all these old acts

53:48

and stuff playing just without the sound on because we had

53:50

a playlist going the whole time with music. But it was

53:52

like you got to see like, oh there's Alabama

53:54

playing the 1985 rocking New Year's Eve.

53:59

On mute. On mute. That's

54:01

cool. So that was a nice

54:03

little touch. But

54:05

I heard that you

54:07

had some synchronicity between

54:10

the Dick Clark thing

54:12

and like a pseudo countdown. That

54:15

was accidental and I'll tell that story in

54:17

a second. Well, Christy said Rhett

54:20

was playing this old Dick Clark

54:23

New Year's Eve countdown and

54:26

he timed it to where the

54:29

countdown, and we all did the countdown,

54:32

the countdown led to

54:34

like 10 minutes to, what

54:38

time was the main event? Yeah,

54:43

she was like, until like 10.30 and

54:46

then the countdown went off

54:49

and then it went straight into the

54:51

main event. I was like, total luck.

54:53

Oh, that was, I was really impressed

54:55

by that. Total luck. Total luck. Yeah.

54:59

Ha! Hey, you fooled

55:01

her, man. You fooled everybody. Yep, I'm glad.

55:04

Sometimes things work out. Sometimes you just gotta start something and

55:06

things work out, things fall into place. That's

55:08

what you should have planned. I

55:11

was giving you so much credit. Yeah,

55:13

it was all intentional, Link. Did everybody count

55:15

down? Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

55:18

They did. Now, the

55:21

thing that I noticed, and

55:23

of course our friend Gar was there,

55:25

and Gar is very

55:28

observant, the most observant

55:30

person that I know in terms of

55:32

just like social dynamics and stuff. He

55:37

is better known as the batting stance

55:39

guy. He

55:42

observes. He literally can do like every

55:44

batting stance of every major

55:46

league baseball player that you care to know about.

55:49

And it's a very niche talent

55:51

that the MLB loves him because

55:54

he's so good at this. They'll bring him into the

55:57

locker room before a game, and the teams call him

55:59

in because he's... He's freaking incredible and

56:01

like that audience is so primed

56:03

for his particular talent that no one

56:05

else has and There

56:09

are times when Gar

56:11

will break this out at a party Not

56:14

because he's like he wants to

56:16

do it. But because somebody knows he can do it starts

56:18

egging him on I'll get to that in

56:20

a moment, but Gar came up to me An

56:24

hour happened to the party and he was like, you

56:27

know, Gar would communicate this he was like Well

56:30

done. He was like Good

56:34

party this group of people that you have assembled

56:36

is like he's like there's not a you don't

56:38

go to a lot of parties like this where

56:40

you've got like that

56:42

couple is obviously Friends

56:45

of you know Parents

56:48

of one of the kids friends. Yeah

56:50

different vibe then. Oh that person is from

56:53

The entertainment industry and these are

56:55

very different vibes and you usually go to parties where it's like

56:57

one or the other Yeah, and

57:00

we just were like these are our people

57:02

are our friends and let's

57:04

just bring them all together And it's like

57:06

it seems like everyone really it works dug

57:08

that vibe Of like

57:10

this person that has this really interesting

57:12

job. That's not in the industry But

57:15

industry people get tired of hanging out with

57:17

industry people because they tend to be Vampires

57:21

leeches, you know status

57:25

people right and so He

57:28

was kind of talking about that dynamic because you

57:30

know, he's right with his connections. He ends up

57:33

experiencing these types of gatherings

57:35

and he was just like having a blast

57:37

seeing people interact but then Jess

57:42

and Jesse is doing this thing where she'll like

57:44

go up and be like this is so-and-so and

57:48

He's a you know, Grammy Award-winning

57:50

like stuff that no one wants to say

57:53

Grammy Award-winning producer And this is so-and-so and

57:55

he's a so and he he's an Imagineer

57:57

at Disney and she's like she'll like say

57:59

that Yeah, so then they broke into ice

58:01

and don't have to have that conversation about

58:03

their uh, yeah,

58:05

and then they start talking and so but

58:07

then when she comes up to my

58:10

new friend Jake who you haven't met yet, she's

58:13

like, uh, this is this is your

58:15

potential Gotham buddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

58:17

yeah. Oh, it's gonna happen. Uh, we're working

58:19

it out. We're working on the date right now. He's like,

58:22

you can be so old and do that. Yeah,

58:24

exactly. Uh, Jesse

58:26

was like, this is Jake. He's a musician.

58:28

This is, uh, Gar... He

58:33

can do batting stances. What

58:36

she did not know is that Jake played

58:38

Division One college baseball. Oh no. And it's

58:40

a freaking baseball freak. Here we go. And

58:43

the guy that he brought is also a baseball guy. Oh

58:45

yes. That just set it

58:47

off and then there's just... This was not the main

58:49

event by the way. No, this is the main event.

58:51

Gar was not hired to be there. This is the

58:54

guard in my hall and they're just calling out people

58:56

and you know, I know a

58:58

few baseball players. Dale

59:01

Murphy. You know what I'm saying? Like,

59:03

I know like they all start throughout the

59:06

years. Wade Boggs. But what

59:08

I don't know is the specific ones

59:10

where someone is trying to throw him off

59:12

and throw out somebody they're just thinking about

59:14

because they know baseball and then he

59:16

can do it perfectly. I'm entertained

59:18

by that because I don't... It's blowing their

59:20

mind. Because I don't... Because I'm

59:23

observing the niche coming together

59:25

and they were flipping out. They had

59:27

the best time because

59:29

he was doing the thing and he was going into

59:31

all his stuff where he emphasizes certain

59:34

things. It was a

59:36

beautiful moment. But

59:38

yes. I can't believe you didn't

59:40

plan the countdown. So the main event. The

59:44

thing... You

59:46

did plan to have a main event which I was

59:49

like, what time did that happen? And

59:52

Christy was like, yeah, it was like 10 30 and

59:54

I was like, that was smart because it

59:56

gives people a reason to stay at the party.

59:58

It's kind of like... The people who

1:00:01

are looking for a reason like oh, I showed up

1:00:03

and now I'm probably gonna go at like 10 now

1:00:06

they're like why must a till 1030 cuz of

1:00:08

the That you know what that's

1:00:10

about to happen That was

1:00:13

really smart Right. You got

1:00:15

everybody sticking around because there's something it's like

1:00:17

the cutting of the cake at the wedding

1:00:19

reception Yes, well, you gotta stay until they

1:00:21

got the light cake I ain't gonna

1:00:24

say until they got the cake and there was a little

1:00:26

bit of a preamble because So

1:00:28

we asked Robert the mythical

1:00:30

magician that you may know from good mythical

1:00:33

morning appearances And

1:00:35

I think he's done. Did he do he did a

1:00:39

Do you a society special to or did it? Yeah,

1:00:41

that's what he did. Yeah. Yeah So

1:00:46

and he did a party that you were at DJing

1:00:48

yeah, he did Laura's graduation party like

1:00:50

a month earlier And

1:00:53

So we were like, yeah Let's have a magician

1:00:56

because why not because how often you go to

1:00:58

a party at somebody's house and they have a

1:01:00

freaking magician not often no and More

1:01:02

often than a guy who can do any batting stance, but

1:01:05

still not that often and I also the funny thing about

1:01:07

it Is because I was telling Gar

1:01:09

this I was like I Think

1:01:12

our connection to Robert actually started

1:01:14

with us. It started the very

1:01:17

beginning of it was us making fun of magicians

1:01:20

Yeah, because we on this show we've

1:01:23

established that we have we've made fun of magicians

1:01:25

on this show Yeah, not that we don't appreciate

1:01:27

it but like we kind of poke fun at

1:01:29

them and then the whole thing

1:01:31

started with Stevie telling us that she had been

1:01:33

to She had seen

1:01:35

a zoom musician. So we magicians who we were like

1:01:37

we're gonna have that for our Christmas party That's

1:01:41

what it was. And so he did the mythical

1:01:43

Christmas party in 2021 Completely

1:01:46

over there was all zoom and we did it

1:01:48

because we'd like to do things that are a

1:01:50

little bit weird and make people feel awkward, but

1:01:52

what ended up happening is He

1:01:54

did such a good job. Yeah, that everybody's just

1:01:57

like I just unabashedly

1:01:59

love that Yeah. And

1:02:01

so then he just kind of became a part of,

1:02:03

when we need a magician, we go to Robert. And

1:02:08

so Robert came early and

1:02:10

just walked around the party and we

1:02:12

just kind of go up to a group of people and start

1:02:14

doing close magic, which is a cool thing to happen at a

1:02:17

party. Yeah. You know, you didn't

1:02:19

expect it. Like, who's this guy? And all of a sudden

1:02:21

he's got a deck of cards and he's doing something. Stealing

1:02:23

your wallet and only to give

1:02:25

it back to you. And

1:02:28

then we did a thing, so

1:02:30

you know how our living room has steps

1:02:32

that go up into the main

1:02:34

part of the house? Yeah. So it's kind of

1:02:36

like sunken. Yeah. So we put him on

1:02:39

the top of the steps like a stage. Like a stage. Yeah. Okay.

1:02:42

Everybody sat in the living room and we were able to fit every... There was

1:02:44

a couple of people who didn't come in. One

1:02:47

of our friends, which will remain nameless, who

1:02:49

you'll be able to guess, was like, I'm

1:02:51

uncomfortable with magicians, so I'm not going to.

1:02:55

I'm not going to watch this. Which

1:02:57

made total sense to me. And

1:03:00

so a few people didn't go in, but

1:03:02

there was enough room. And

1:03:05

he did like a half

1:03:07

hour show and

1:03:10

people just

1:03:12

loved it because it was kind of

1:03:14

unexpected. It gives you a focal point.

1:03:16

Yeah, and it was just... Not only

1:03:19

to stick around, but... And then once

1:03:21

he was done, there's a certain group of

1:03:23

people who are like, well, we don't stay at

1:03:25

people's homes past midnight. We're

1:03:27

going home. But

1:03:30

then there's the 40% who are like, well, as long as

1:03:32

you guys are hearing up, we're sticking around.

1:03:35

Yeah. So the last person left at like 1

1:03:37

a.m. or something like that. So it was a lot way past my

1:03:39

bedtime. Well, I hate I

1:03:41

missed it. If I wasn't doing the number one thing

1:03:43

on my list that wasn't sex. Yeah,

1:03:46

magician parties, you didn't rank that

1:03:48

anywhere. Nope. Nowhere at

1:03:50

all that I heard. I mean,

1:03:52

I still don't think I am. But

1:03:54

JetSkeen is now definitely on my list. But

1:03:56

we immediately, the next morning, were talking about

1:03:59

the things that... that we would do differently

1:04:01

to make it easier on ourselves just to

1:04:04

do it, but how much fun we had.

1:04:06

And then I got so many texts from

1:04:08

people the next day who

1:04:10

were just like, I had such a great time. It

1:04:12

was a great time, loved getting them know your other

1:04:14

friends. Like, I

1:04:16

was kind of nervous about that whole like, this

1:04:19

couple only knows Jesse. Hey,

1:04:21

you know what? People come to a party, they can meet people.

1:04:23

But yeah, I- You

1:04:26

know? Well, but you set the table,

1:04:28

but everybody's gotta eat. Yeah, I was

1:04:30

just very happy with the fact that

1:04:32

people just kind of just did their

1:04:34

own thing. And like, everybody was talking

1:04:36

and having conversations and everyone stayed. So

1:04:38

the only change is

1:04:40

no coffee bar, more alcohol,

1:04:44

which who's gonna argue with that? I think a

1:04:47

bartender instead of a coffee bar. You can't

1:04:49

go with a magician again. Oh, hell no. Not

1:04:51

nothing against magicians, but that was just the, I'm

1:04:54

not gonna mix it up. Yeah, yeah,

1:04:56

yeah, maybe a mechanical bull. Tournament.

1:05:00

It doesn't have to be one

1:05:02

focal point. It

1:05:04

could be, we're gonna do this

1:05:06

thing where it's more like the

1:05:09

moth, where we

1:05:12

would like you to prepare a story that

1:05:14

is about this kind of thing. And the

1:05:16

first 15 people to sign up can

1:05:18

tell a five minute story or a three minute story or something

1:05:20

like that. So then it's like, well, if I don't wanna tell

1:05:22

a story, I don't have to, but people who wanna tell stories

1:05:24

are encouraged to do so. And so then

1:05:27

we have a moment where everyone is like entertaining

1:05:29

one another versus it being one person. Interesting. The

1:05:32

other thing I'm gonna do differently is we

1:05:35

got all our food from Porto's, which was great because it's

1:05:37

all like finger food. But

1:05:42

we got it and we served it and we

1:05:44

heated it up. And so there was just like,

1:05:46

yeah. I

1:05:49

feel like the food situation, we gotta think about that

1:05:52

a little bit. I

1:05:55

think in order to really focus, I think you gotta get it

1:05:57

catered. Put your kids in taxes,

1:05:59

man. I think you got

1:06:01

a shepherd in a tux. Like you got to

1:06:03

go the lowest level of catering I don't want

1:06:05

like people coming. I don't want to be fancy

1:06:07

people coming around with plates of food. I'm just

1:06:09

saying that like You

1:06:12

don't want to make the food hot Yeah, I'm worrying

1:06:14

about switching the things out but like hate I missed

1:06:16

it. You got to come to the next one It'll

1:06:19

be what it'll be planned well in advance. Okay. Okay,

1:06:21

you think you're gonna get people to tell stories? Oh,

1:06:24

that's just an idea. I mean first of

1:06:26

all In

1:06:28

Los Angeles man, it's plenty of stuff. You got

1:06:30

all these people and the thing is is that

1:06:33

You don't just get the people who come from an

1:06:35

entertainment background to tell stories you get the person who?

1:06:38

Just has a really interesting You

1:06:40

might have to job you might have to experience and then I might have

1:06:42

to give a little I might have to give them a little call and

1:06:45

give them a little nudge and be like hey You

1:06:47

might have to narrow down the topic. Oh,

1:06:49

no, no, it wouldn't just be it would be do

1:06:52

you have a story about putting? Just

1:06:54

to use the you know, it might be a

1:06:57

little too that's a little too narrow But you

1:06:59

want me to share five stories? Do you have

1:07:02

a near-death experience? Okay,

1:07:04

no, and so then we serve like death by

1:07:06

chocolate cake At the end

1:07:08

and you've got so it's a death theme and

1:07:10

oh like your death. That could be how you

1:07:12

do some kind That's a good Halloween theme Maybe

1:07:16

that's the October party is a near-death experience.

1:07:18

Yeah, and nobody has to dress up You

1:07:22

could if you want to but you could if you wanted to but

1:07:24

that's not the theme of the party Right.

1:07:27

Well, I don't I'm making no commitments making

1:07:29

no commitments at this point. Well, neither am I then I

1:07:32

might show up or I might Be snowboarding

1:07:34

got to hear about the deeps

1:07:37

the details I

1:07:41

Think my recommendation this week if I'm gonna

1:07:43

wreck it up. It's my turn to give

1:07:45

a recommendation is is

1:07:49

Make your list Yeah,

1:07:52

it's good to know what you enjoy like

1:07:55

I said, I mean I know some people

1:07:57

are against it and you know what it's

1:07:59

not for everybody to make a list. Maybe it's a

1:08:01

thing of... But to identify... You don't

1:08:03

have to rank them. Maybe

1:08:05

it's an unranked pool of

1:08:07

activities and you might say, you know what? I

1:08:10

need to add a few on there. Or my... It's

1:08:12

a vision board. A vision... Yeah,

1:08:14

creative. A vision

1:08:16

board of pleasure. Yes. A pleasure board.

1:08:19

And one of your things may be

1:08:21

trying something new just once. Like

1:08:24

Jenna said. And then you're like, oh yeah,

1:08:26

I need to come up with something new. I

1:08:28

made a vision board last night. You made

1:08:30

one last night? I did, yeah. Oh, I

1:08:33

had some friends over. We had games and arts

1:08:35

and crafts and a bunch of girl friends. She

1:08:37

did, didn't she? She's having curated parties. It

1:08:39

was a curated party, yeah. And some of

1:08:41

us did arts and crafts and made vision

1:08:43

boards. A friend of mine

1:08:46

loves making jewelry, so she brought some of her jewelry

1:08:48

stuff. And then we all sat down

1:08:50

and played Domino's for a while and yeah, it was

1:08:52

a blast. Was this a life vision

1:08:54

board? Or what I'm saying,

1:08:56

a pleasure vision board? It was

1:08:58

a year vision board of

1:09:02

things that I want to come into my life

1:09:04

and the things I want to do. So

1:09:07

kind of, I guess, it is a pleasure board,

1:09:09

but for the year. Okay, all right.

1:09:12

All right. I like it.

1:09:16

I kind of want to see it, but maybe it's

1:09:18

personal. I'll show you a photo. People

1:09:21

want to see it. I'll put

1:09:23

it, yeah. It's like

1:09:26

a vacation Bible school felt board. No,

1:09:28

it's so much better. Oh, it's

1:09:31

better than felt? You don't have

1:09:33

to publish it, but if you're going to show it to us

1:09:35

now, we'll just describe it in general

1:09:37

terms. I'm not

1:09:39

trying to publish your personal vision board. I

1:09:42

mean, there's nothing in here. Okay, I'm just going to describe it.

1:09:45

Yes, it's like cut out felt. It's

1:09:48

felt pieces on like a, it's like,

1:09:50

you know how felt sticks to felt.

1:09:53

And if you're a child and you go to like,

1:09:55

it's not felt, vacation Bible school. If

1:09:58

you want to defend yourself, you got to get back on board. It's

1:10:00

paper. I

1:10:03

would say it's exactly like a

1:10:05

felt vacation

1:10:07

Bible. I'm just

1:10:09

joking. That's a

1:10:11

collage. Pretty damn artsy. Where did you get

1:10:13

these things? It's like an

1:10:16

adult collage. Did

1:10:18

you print them out? It

1:10:20

is an adult collage. Yeah. It's exactly

1:10:22

what I made. And you didn't leave any white

1:10:24

space. I didn't. Well, it was

1:10:27

also the board that I used was something that

1:10:29

I used for a little art

1:10:31

thing like years ago. You just keep those boards and

1:10:33

you're like, I'm

1:10:36

not going to throw it away. That's

1:10:38

wasteful. So I just did something over

1:10:40

top of it. You know how painters

1:10:42

always paint it over their masterpieces with

1:10:44

another masterpiece? I'm comparing

1:10:46

myself to a masterpiece painter

1:10:48

right now with my collage. Your

1:10:50

old vision it should be replaced

1:10:52

by your new vision. Yeah. I

1:10:57

love it. Yeah. It's Mod Podge collage and

1:10:59

there's a Mod Podge collage. And

1:11:01

there's a in Pasadena, there's a

1:11:05

used arts and crafts store where you can

1:11:07

go and get like it's

1:11:09

super inexpensive. Like anything

1:11:11

you need arts and crafts. Like half a pencil.

1:11:15

Yeah. But it's mostly like, you

1:11:17

know, a crown

1:11:19

set that was used like once or twice or

1:11:21

like one thing is missing. And it's like, and

1:11:24

all of the magazines that I got, I

1:11:26

got for free there. And

1:11:29

they had a bunch of just like crafting

1:11:31

magazines that had really pretty like art and

1:11:33

visual stuff. Can you make one of these for

1:11:35

me? Well, I've

1:11:38

already given you my list. Yeah, that's true.

1:11:40

You've given me the list and I'll need

1:11:42

color palettes and yeah, you're going to be part of

1:11:44

your job. Yeah, I'll make a

1:11:46

vision for you. It's not

1:11:49

like I'm asking you to like, yeah, during work, do

1:11:51

it at the hobby. I mean, you will be paid

1:11:53

for. That's a good start. Alright,

1:12:01

well, I think that's my wreck now.

1:12:03

Get Jenna to make you a vision

1:12:05

for it. Okay, alright. No it's

1:12:07

not. Oh, that was fun. Congratulations on

1:12:09

your party, man. Congratulations on your snowboarding. Oh gosh!

1:12:11

I wish I could do both. I wish I

1:12:13

could be two-click. Snowboarding

1:12:16

party at the same time. Whoa. Yeah, man, that's what

1:12:18

we do. We'll talk

1:12:20

at you next week. In the meantime, call us

1:12:24

and leave us a voicemail. About

1:12:26

anything. That we would... that...

1:12:29

basically because you're daring us to respond.

1:12:32

Oh, okay. 1-888-EARPOD-1 Hey

1:12:39

Rhett and Link, this is Richard from South

1:12:41

Carolina. I just want to say

1:12:43

I heard Rhett mention to eat raw

1:12:45

broccoli whenever you have the opportunity.

1:12:48

And I just want to say I appreciate you

1:12:50

saying that because me and my wife are eating

1:12:52

more raw broccoli than we ever have before. Thank

1:12:55

you.