In this episode, Travis interviews Chris Dickens, a long-time listener and winner of the El-Bros community's name. They discuss Chris's journey in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ) and his transition from Taekwondo to BJJ.

Chris shares how his background in Taekwondo and other martial arts has influenced his BJJ training, including flexibility, mindset, and fearlessness. He also talks about his reservations as a larger individual in BJJ and how he navigates rolling with different training partners.

Chris emphasizes the value of private lessons in his BJJ journey and the benefits of one-on-one instruction and feedback. In this part of the conversation, Chris discusses his experience with private lessons and the importance of fine-tuning techniques.

He also discusses his recovery routine, which includes yoga and sleep. Travis asks about the significance of community in Chris's jiu-jitsu journey, and Chris emphasizes the importance of training with people who support and care about each other.

They also discuss the role of lineage in jiu-jitsu and how it can vary in importance depending on individual goals and preferences

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