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0:40

Hello,

0:40

everyone, and welcome to

0:42

the podcast of the Ellis James and John

0:44

Robbins show, different feel

0:46

today, different vibe because as

0:48

all elite athletes know,

0:51

sometimes you pick up a knock, you pick up an injury

0:53

and you have to sit on the sidelines for a

0:55

while. It's very frustrating for me

0:58

not to be on the first eleven

1:00

out on the pitch today with the boys, but

1:03

I've just got to take it on the chin, got to recuperate

1:06

Johnny Besta knows how I feel.

1:08

Glenn McGranny, who I felt when he stepped on

1:10

that ball before the the Ashish

1:12

game, but I'm working on my rehab.

1:15

My my nutritionist is here. My

1:17

physio is here. I've got another scam later

1:20

today. I have a chamber. yeah,

1:22

hopefully get the boot off tomorrow. Well,

1:24

to bring it into twenty twenty two,

1:26

you're very much the Reese James

1:28

of

1:29

regularly broadcasting. Know

1:31

the footballer. Learning how to rebuild

1:34

my career after mock the week's ended. No.

1:38

Rice James is a Chelsea write back who

1:40

unfortunately didn't quite make didn't quite

1:42

make it onto the the England plane for the upcoming

1:45

World Cup. Was Safke said to him, you've done a

1:47

Rob injuries. Yeah.

1:49

Which is obviously tragic for Reese

1:51

James as as it is tragic for John.

1:54

So you're coming from home in Buckinghamshire.

1:56

How are you, John? I'm good

1:59

actually, man. I very

2:02

chilled, very vibe heavy,

2:04

very positive. Good hair cut.

2:06

Yeah. Good hair cut. Thank you very much.

2:09

This is the thing I have found a

2:12

reliable hairdresser in

2:15

the town where I live at a reasonable

2:17

price. Oh, if there's nothing better and

2:19

you'll be absolutely devastated when

2:21

either he leaves or you move

2:23

or you can't have him forever. Yeah.

2:25

Just know that, John. You can't have him forever.

2:27

Oh, Louis from Brittany. My

2:29

god used to cut my hair well, but then he moved

2:32

to France. I absolutely gutted.

2:34

So I know the guy to ask for at

2:37

the barbers It's just all coming

2:39

at Robins right now. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

2:41

But yeah. So I Alice

2:44

Caroline I feel pretty good because the man who calls

2:46

you chief and has called you chief. the security

2:48

guard at the The man

2:50

who's called you chief for the last sort of two years or so,

2:52

he called me chief this morning. He

2:54

knows I'm not fit to play, so he's you're

2:56

now the chief. Yeah. I think you

2:58

might have called me the king that wants to.

3:01

Yeah. You're were we wearing

3:03

your chief son band because I sent it to

3:05

you? You said that you said,

3:07

good morning chief. And I said, yes.

3:10

And he said the king. I went, oh,

3:12

god. And then I sort of fumbled off my pass

3:15

and and it just looked cool and cool then.

3:17

Yeah. But -- No. -- for a few seconds, it

3:19

felt, oh, felt fantastic. So

3:21

we haven't done the obviously, we haven't done show yet.

3:23

It remains to be seen if there's any

3:25

Gremlins in the works. We

3:27

apologize for that.

3:30

But this is the price you pay.

3:32

This is the price you pay when you give

3:34

one hundred and ten billion It's

3:36

the price you pay for being a top

3:38

athlete. Now this

3:40

email really, really stayed with me. So

3:42

I'm gonna have to do this. This

3:44

is from Vicki in Bristol. My

3:47

mom once gave me in my brother her

3:49

perfect condition, boxed nineteen

3:52

fifties barbies with original clothes,

3:54

wigs, and shoes, which we loved playing with,

3:56

me, especially. Was this on the

3:58

subject of AAA squandered extravagant

4:01

some of the text from where we reset

4:03

John good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,

4:05

his calf might be given him Jib, but it

4:07

was certainly one stopping from being a top blood

4:09

I mean, we've also not explained why John is at

4:11

home yet. And we just leave We're gonna do that instead.

4:13

We're gonna do that instead of We've said some initiative. Okay.

4:16

Is that yeah. That's all we're giving him for now.

4:18

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Dave.

4:20

That is what John has decided to say.

4:22

Don't you dare tell him how to broadcast?

4:24

I can't see Because these challenging screens

4:26

in between me and you, Alice, when you ever

4:28

go at me, it's it's not quite got quite as much

4:30

impact. So many managers

4:32

and it's not me to training, and I'm stood

4:34

there in one of those big long coats

4:37

because My expertise is

4:39

I I'm a big part of this -- Yeah.

4:41

-- this distressing room. Carry

4:43

on with the email. I made their boxes into

4:46

beds for them. I lost all the accessories

4:48

and we delighted in feeding one of

4:50

them to our job bills, just her fingers.

4:52

I didn't think much about it until I heard one

4:54

had been sold. for three

4:57

million pounds about fifteen

4:59

years ago. I blame my mom for

5:01

this. Why why would she give them to us.

5:03

She just giggled about it and said, oh, but you got

5:05

so much joy playing with them.

5:07

Three million pounds.

5:10

She was giggling. Kind regards

5:12

Vicky from Bristol. How would you

5:14

get over that? I don't know. You

5:16

move to Andora, you change your

5:18

name, you live in a to the side of a

5:20

mountain as a hermit for the rest of your life.

5:23

If mama didn't add to my mother,

5:25

that's exactly what she'd have said. Oh, you've got so

5:27

much joy playing with him. That's that is

5:29

word for word what moment would have said.

5:31

It's great. It's a building. There it yes.

5:33

If if you want a sort of damaged character.

5:35

Yeah. It

5:37

is I would say it's naive

5:39

to have a boxed barbie with all of the accessories

5:42

in the nineteen fifties. I think someone

5:44

at some point should have said. surely there

5:46

were something. Yeah. You don't think like

5:48

that. That's what I mean, just to go

5:50

back to her old friend, Froggy flips, when

5:52

he's going through these like

5:54

yard sales looking for toys,

5:57

vintage toys. I get

5:59

the sort

5:59

of guys in their fifties who've bought

6:02

bought a box Star Wars Toy.

6:04

Right? What I don't get

6:07

is the people who've had them

6:09

from childhood and kept them in the box

6:11

because what seven year old. Yeah. Yeah.

6:13

Yeah. In the eighties, goes

6:15

right. I've bought these teenage mutant Ninja

6:17

Turtle toys. I'm not going to open

6:19

them. Yes. If that takes

6:21

us sort of a certain type of brain,

6:24

I think, to be either

6:26

so, like, forward thinking or so obsessed

6:28

with the the

6:30

pristine condition of the toy that you

6:32

wouldn't wanna play with it. I mean, I've got transformers

6:35

that had I left them in their boxes

6:37

when I was 789

6:40

would now be worth hundreds if not thousands

6:42

of pounds. I'm not angry at myself for

6:44

opening them because what I just it wouldn't

6:46

even enter my brain to come back

6:48

from ToysRUs and go, I've wanted

6:50

this for six months. Let's leave it.

6:52

Except the litter box and I'll come back to

6:54

it in thirty years time. And also,

6:56

if you I I was reading the

6:58

David app with books about rock music

7:01

in the late sixties and early seventies and

7:05

things like re releasing classic records.

7:07

That wasn't a thing that really happened until

7:10

CDs came into existence in

7:12

the nineteen eighties because you

7:15

had a record and then you bought it and

7:17

then you listened to it and then it might it it

7:19

probably wore out and then that was that. It was a it's

7:21

quite a disposable culture. People didn't

7:23

really buy toys to collect. them to

7:25

half. They bought them to play with.

7:27

And also with the barbies, they would have sold

7:29

they've sold in their millions. So if

7:31

you've got one, you think, well, This

7:33

can't be unique or rare, can

7:35

it? But, yeah, still.

7:39

Three million quid. This

7:42

is from Billy.

7:44

We're talking about people being too famous to go to

7:46

the pub. And, Ellis, you can maybe

7:49

provide a bit of But I've

7:51

read this, but I'll just make noises because

7:53

I don't see now. Dear analysts,

7:55

John and Dave, upon hearing last week of how some people

7:57

are just too famous to go for a casual drink at

7:59

a pub. I was

7:59

reminded of the story involving a pretty big

8:02

name in music, doing just that at the height of his

8:04

fame in the sixties, driving along with

8:06

some friends from TV appearance in Bradford

8:08

back home to London in nineteen sixty eight, the

8:10

said big name suggested stopping at

8:12

whatever village had the nicest sounding name

8:14

settling on a place called Harold in Bedfordshire

8:16

and ending up in the Oak clear arms.

8:18

Although the landlord was a stickler for the rules,

8:20

he decided to allow the pope stay open past

8:22

eleven PM on this occasion because of his new

8:24

customer. What ensued was a three AM

8:26

lock in with a famous customer playing

8:29

his new song on the pub piano for the first time

8:31

in public. It was Paul McCartney and

8:33

he treated the regulars to Hay Jude. I

8:35

know you've probably talked about how

8:37

if you could go back in time, what cultural moment

8:39

in pop history would you like to experience?

8:41

Ellis, soaking sixties car to be

8:43

street, John, followed velvet

8:45

underground on tour. Dave, early

8:47

oasis gigs. For me as a fan of the

8:49

Beatles and of quaint little pubs, I

8:51

think singing along to Hay Jude with Maca himself

8:54

after a few points of mild in a cozy

8:56

sixties village pub might just be the stuff

8:58

that dreams are made of. Love the show

9:00

chops. from Billy. Can you

9:02

imagine? All the

9:04

people. That's

9:06

the wrong story. Just that is that is a

9:08

story I've heard. before. It's quite a famous

9:11

story. I've never seen an

9:13

interview. I don't think with anyone who was

9:15

there. But I think the lovely

9:17

Robin has been to that pub. Oh,

9:19

lovely. because he goes to Bedford quite a lot. He's

9:21

got family in Bedford. So I think

9:23

he's been there. Well, certainly

9:25

driven past it. Yeah, I've just

9:27

Googled it and the pub

9:29

to mark the 53rd anniversary.

9:32

This was in

9:34

last some to mark the fifty third anniversary of

9:36

Paul McCartney stopping by on his way

9:38

back from a gig to

9:42

to pull up a seat at the pub piano and

9:44

just play Hay Jude, you know, in public for

9:46

the first time, they had a

9:48

tribute band playing in the in sort of in

9:50

the beer garden. It is one of

9:52

those things actually. That's a really good ember

9:54

because I've always wanted to just

9:56

go to Carnegie Street in nineteen sixty

9:58

five, but I think if you have to choose a moment,

10:00

I can't think of much better than that.

10:02

Well, this is from a friend

10:04

or acquaintance of Luke Morton. Luke

10:07

Morton is the editor of the Crang magazine

10:09

as well as the author of the authorized

10:12

enter Shakiri -- Shakari

10:14

Bryokri, standing like statues.

10:16

Now I didn't know. I thought that was either

10:18

Shakira or Shakiri the footballer.

10:20

Neither. But there was a lot of

10:22

people when end to Shakiri first

10:24

came out, the the slip of the tongue was

10:26

often enter Shakira because it it

10:28

was a similar time of Shakira being quite big

10:30

as a Shakira. Shakira. Exactly. But

10:32

they were they were a big bundle to And

10:34

Shakira, they're I think they're debut album

10:36

by this quite a lot. I've never

10:38

heard of them ever before today. They're

10:40

quite heavy, John. Dave,

10:42

you're you're talking to a man who once listened

10:45

to megadeth's hanger eighteen on

10:47

repeat during a bad patch. Well, do you

10:49

know what? I don't think you'd mind into

10:51

Sukari then. My gander seventeen.

10:53

I am surprised that You

10:55

haven't heard of them. I've never

10:57

heard enter Shikari before the

10:59

name. Did we played them on

11:01

Nextive? No. They were too heavy for us. Too

11:03

heavy. too bad. They were so heavy,

11:05

John. They were so Right.

11:07

No. They they weren't so heavy because it makes you sound

11:09

like you're talking about Yeah. There's

11:11

less less than yeah. But no. They they had

11:13

an elect well, they still I think they're still

11:15

around. But they've got an electro

11:17

sound to their a rock. So quite sinthy as well

11:19

at once. Thin, however. Quite sinthy. So

11:21

More skumpy jacked than strong

11:23

bo dark fruits. What's

11:25

that mean? No. Well,

11:27

it's it's equating the heaviness of

11:29

the music we played on RadioX to the

11:31

kind of cider companies that RadioX will

11:33

be trying to No. It's trying to get to

11:36

advertise on the station. Good stuff.

11:38

Yes. Very

11:40

Yeah. Why not? because I can't think of

11:42

a better I can't think of a better

11:44

comparison, but they're not quite scrumpy jack makes them

11:46

sound quite old man, long

11:49

hair, like, quite heavy metal.

11:51

They were like metal. I don't know. Okay.

11:53

We're talking if you know we're talking match.

11:56

They're more natch than stronger duck

11:58

fruits. This is the podcast you do with me,

11:59

not the moon and water jump. I

12:02

haven't seen natch outside

12:04

of bristol ever. What's the

12:05

fact that? Natches a

12:08

type of can of cider.

12:10

Let me just look it up in my mind. No. I thought

12:12

you were abbreviating Nat terrural

12:14

strongbow. I thought you started to use the word natural.

12:16

Organic strongbow. Strongbow.

12:18

For the years, she's a cider

12:20

living health freak. Basically,

12:22

if you were drinking in Bristol in the nineties,

12:26

NATH was the cider and it's

12:28

made by st an

12:30

old brewery maybe. It's

12:32

five point two percent. It's a dry

12:34

cider. It's fighting juice.

12:36

Right. But yeah. I've never seen outside

12:38

of the Southwest. Anyway, regardless

12:41

of what type of cider enter

12:44

shakari are -- Yeah. --

12:46

there's a reference to us in the

12:48

book. standing like statues by Luke

12:50

Morton because there's

12:52

a section of the book titled Up Your

12:54

Region, and that's been confirmed by the

12:56

author. Great. email

12:59

from Gemma. Gemma says

13:01

hire Ellis John and Dave just

13:03

wanted to write and help John out before he ends up

13:05

in prison. Last week, there was

13:07

a listener with a friend who had been mistakenly paid

13:09

over one million pounds by his employer.

13:11

John suggested

13:11

he could

13:12

have put mount into a high interest account,

13:14

make a hundred pounds a day for a week, and then tell the

13:16

employer. Now, the

13:18

mistaken payment was an accident

13:20

And as the friend realized and told his employee

13:23

straightaway, there's no issue, repotential,

13:25

theft, or fraud, etcetera. However,

13:28

If you'd move the money into a different account in

13:30

order to make a profit, the interest,

13:32

and then keep said profit, that would

13:34

be theft. More specifically

13:36

in this situation fraud under the two

13:38

thousand and six fraud act, as he

13:40

would be appropriating the funds as if

13:42

they were his own and then profiting from

13:44

the game. The Theft Act of

13:46

nineteen sixty eight was the leading authority

13:48

in on this and was then better

13:50

detailed in the fraud act, the

13:52

interest would belong to his employer And

13:54

in keeping it, he will be liable. However,

13:57

he absolutely could have kept

13:59

twenty five pounds back for the fees

14:01

that it all incurred Just thought

14:03

that John may want to know before he's having his

14:05

Christmas lunch in Hallfield as a

14:07

fellow Bristolian John will get the prison

14:09

reference thanks for me. The me,

14:11

the listener, Gemma -- Lovely

14:13

email. -- and it it

14:15

kinda makes sense, doesn't it? because you shouldn't be

14:18

profiting -- No. -- money that wasn't yours in

14:20

the first place. So it does it

14:22

rings true. Do you know why I love that

14:24

email? Because Gemma is an expert

14:26

and I haven't had enough of No.

14:28

I loved that. And if

14:30

I I listened to a podcast about

14:32

Stonehenge last night. I listened to that

14:34

podcast hadn't been presented

14:36

by experts it would been

14:38

I've I've no use to whatsoever. That's

14:40

a good point. If it just

14:43

makes sense. Yeah.

14:45

The layman sick. They're

14:47

really old. They're all traffic,

14:49

though, on the A303 Cold are

14:51

they? They they can't be. Two

14:53

hundred years easy. Yeah. Two hundred

14:55

years in there big Laurie.

14:57

Big Laurie. Oh, yeah. In the back of a

14:59

big Laurie. Pam Wicksha

15:01

does get to be daft. This is

15:03

from Sean, un squandered extravagance, really

15:05

like this. I once went to my boss's house

15:07

for dinner and his wife asked me to open a bottle

15:09

of wine. I took a bottle down from the shelf and

15:11

pop the cork. At that point,

15:13

my boss turned around and I could tell from the look

15:15

on his face that I'd done something terribly

15:18

wrong. They'd been saving that bottle for

15:20

several years as a friend had gifted it to him

15:22

for his birthday. He'd taken my boss

15:24

down to his wine cellar and told him he could

15:26

pick any bottle he liked from his extensive

15:28

collection. drank the wine with dinner

15:30

and everybody commented on how delicious it

15:32

was. The best wine they'd ever had they

15:34

said. At the end of the meal, my boss

15:36

googled the label. It fourteen

15:38

pounds from Sainsbury's. I

15:41

love that. I love that. This is

15:43

the best wine I've ever had in

15:45

my life. I am

15:48

gonna make a guess here, Dave, that

15:51

we had so many emails about

15:53

the best way to pronounce phone

15:55

numbers that we've picked the

15:57

the sort of the final word on

15:59

its email. We got a lot of

16:01

stuff through on phone

16:03

numbers. Now we're gonna be covering this a bit more

16:05

in the show as well. Yes.

16:07

So I think we've probably just stripped back a little

16:09

bit in terms of the emails you guys get do

16:11

wanna cover this in a bit more depth. But I

16:13

do want to read this email because I'm

16:16

guessing that producer, Matt, or

16:18

producer Bertie or whoever went through the emails

16:20

thought, okay, I'm gonna pick one and it's

16:22

gonna be this one. This is

16:25

from Quentin. And

16:27

Quentin says, I listened with

16:29

increasing horror to your conversation about the

16:31

manner in which to convey telephone

16:33

numbers. I write this for a inherited

16:36

authority as my father was a GPO

16:38

telephone engineer, and my mother was a telephone

16:40

operator in the local exchange.

16:42

and they both been schooled by the GPO, which

16:44

was the forerunner to BT. They'd

16:46

been schooled in the correct way to announce telephone

16:49

numbers, in particular, our father

16:51

who was also aham radio enthusiast,

16:53

would beat this methodology into

16:55

us whilst reciting the nato of phonetic

16:57

alphabet in case we were ever

16:59

stranded and needed to clearly indicate our

17:01

location to the emergency services. Didn't know you

17:03

had kids joke. So

17:08

Quentin has broken it down,

17:10

and these are the rules that have been

17:12

passed down from generation to

17:14

generation. So landlines, first you

17:16

get the area code, then the number is

17:18

broken into segments of four numbers. The

17:20

last segment is always four numbers

17:22

of the element between the area code and

17:24

the final segment might be less than four

17:26

numbers. For example, session 12345678

17:31

would be o fourteen ninety 412345678

17:35

Check-in 1234567

17:37

would be o fourteen ninety 41234567

17:43

mobiles. The same rules

17:45

apply recalling that only the first

17:47

three numbers are the area code,

17:49

so 07912345678

17:52

would be 079123456780

17:58

John was extremely close with his

17:59

suggestion of A3224

18:03

multiple number. You must

18:05

never quote a multiple number higher

18:07

than a double where the same number occurs

18:10

multiple times in the same block.

18:12

Of course, using the four number

18:14

block rule, you will only get to a

18:16

maximum four instances such

18:18

as 07712344456

18:22

which would be communicated 0771234

18:26

double 456 Otherwise

18:29

--

18:29

I do. -- you must you must announce

18:31

the double first, then either

18:33

the following single or double EG07712345556

18:39

would be announced 0771234

18:42

double 556 Never

18:46

triple 5077123455555

18:50

would be announced 0771234

18:54

double five double five. Never

18:57

quadruple five. Do you know what? Do you

18:59

know what? doesn't

19:01

account for. What we didn't really account for

19:03

last week is vibe.

19:05

Some numbers have a vibe, but this is how you

19:07

do it in Commandment. Right? So the

19:09

command code is 01267

19:12

At some point in the nineteen nineties, it

19:14

went from 0267 to 01267

19:17

Right? So If

19:19

you were giving your number, you do the area code

19:21

first 01267 Now

19:23

when I was very young numbers were had

19:25

four four number had

19:28

four numbers. so it might be 1234 and then every

19:30

number in Kalmarvan had two, three put in

19:32

front of it. So you'd go, 01267

19:35

that's a code. two three, whichever one

19:37

knows because that's the common bit. And

19:39

then the number 1234 So you'd go

19:41

01267231234

19:43

And

19:45

I that's The vibe, that's the Kamalvan

19:47

vibe. the Kamalvan vibe. This

19:50

is too complicated. Well, the

19:52

similar thing happened in Bristol

19:55

because Bristol is now o double 179

19:57

or o double 173

19:59

Whereas when I

20:01

was growing up, I think it was 0179

20:05

They added an extra one in there, and

20:07

then the three as

20:09

an alternative. So we can all double

20:11

179 It became o

20:14

double 179 but then they added

20:16

a three, so it could either be o double

20:18

179 or o double

20:20

1793I

20:22

think, or o double 173 depending on

20:24

what part of Bristol you're in. I'm not entirely sure on

20:26

that. But what that meant was you

20:28

then had you had to get your head

20:30

around the extra one and

20:32

also the extra fifth

20:34

digit. Yeah. It

20:36

was difficult, but we got through it. We

20:38

got through it. We got through it. Yeah. And we've got through

20:40

this. because I think we've covered every every

20:42

well, not every angle because we've got a special guest on

20:44

the show to talk little bit more about

20:47

it. When Quentin goes on, I'm sure Brazil

20:49

will appreciate that this GPO instigated

20:51

this that like the NATO alphabet,

20:54

it was extremely clear how many of each

20:56

number there was. Hearing people get this

20:58

wrong infuriates me and seeing it set out

21:00

wrong on a business card results in the

21:02

card going in the bin. I

21:04

should also add that

21:06

this scientific method of dividing long

21:08

numbers into groups of four was

21:11

later adopted by the bank which is

21:13

why the numbers on your bank card are divided into

21:15

groups of four and why the standard length of your

21:17

pin is four characters because it was

21:19

found that people more easily recalled

21:21

of groups of four, Cheers Quintin.

21:23

The Cheers Quintin are all mine,

21:25

Quintin. Cheers Quintin. Yes. Thank

21:27

you, Quintin. Big kill. as I've

21:29

I've always referred to Quintin. Yeah. Yeah.

21:33

Well, anyway, I

21:35

think there's we're ten minutes of

21:37

short time. We've had a I

21:39

need to get a plate of snacks ready for the show because I haven't got my

21:41

usual three meals, Dave. Yeah. But

21:43

of our beginner's call, it's a little theater

21:45

reference for you. Yes. So it's

21:47

gonna be a fun park show. I'm sure John, obviously, is

21:50

at home, so fingers crossed. We don't get

21:52

any ghosts in the machine. But

21:54

anyway, here comes the show.

21:57

Download the

21:57

BBC sales out and get even

21:59

more, Ellis James and John Robbins,

22:01

lucky you. This

22:04

is five live. Can I

22:06

just introduce you all to Ellis

22:08

James from from a

22:10

West Wales, a massive

22:12

swansea and Wales fan. Ellis,

22:15

and he's made John Robins coming

22:17

up a bit later on this I'm not getting an

22:19

intro there on my Adrian. You are I

22:21

just didn't I I've got a look. I was telling you to say

22:23

about Welltower retro shirts,

22:25

Adrian. Okay. Adrian, how have you

22:27

been having my dream conversation on the

22:30

radio for the last ten hours. I've got

22:32

greenfield. But Robert is short there.

22:34

I know. I got so much to learn. south

22:36

of earlier. So what's your favorite shirt? Can

22:38

I give you top Yeah. The

22:41

added RCT42 eighty seven

22:43

home. Hamill eighty seven

22:45

What did describe it? Describe that one.

22:47

Oh, it's a lovely little number.

22:50

It's a dark rub. It's got sort of different

22:52

colored red across the middle with white stripes.

22:55

Yeah. On the classic seventy six to

22:57

ninety barge saw the barge looks but doesn't have

22:59

the Gauraki, Juare. Hamel

23:01

eighty seven to ninety, which looks like

23:03

the Denmark shirt of that era and then

23:05

the Umbro ninety to ninety

23:07

two, which we beat Germany and Brazil in, which

23:09

was my first show, which I had for my tenth birthday,

23:11

that would be in at number three. So

23:13

the seventy six seventy nine hundred barrel

23:15

actually comes quite well down on my list, and I know that's

23:18

sacriagious to say. Can I give side top three,

23:20

please? So you're gonna wait, John. Yeah. Go on.

23:22

Your first time. I I

23:24

like the CNA away

23:26

kits from nineteen

23:28

eighty four, which was it sort of had

23:30

loads of think there were chrysanthemums on

23:32

it as a possible pattern.

23:34

Then it would be the the

23:36

the classic next nineteen ninety

23:39

two two tone shirt because

23:41

the great thing about that is you could wear it to the match and you

23:43

could wear it to a nightclub

23:44

afterwards. Yeah. Mhmm. Okay. And

23:46

but the the best one,

23:47

I think, is probably the

23:51

Debenhams home debenhams

23:53

away because No. The Debenham Home

23:55

Gold keepers kit from the from the late

23:57

seventies -- Yeah. -- which

23:59

was just sort of like a series

24:01

of crosshatch designs.

24:03

Yes. And it also had shoulder

24:05

pads and and pockets.

24:08

Mhmm. So useful for a goalkeeper

24:10

though. Keeper suites. I mean, You

24:12

won't be welcome in Wales for a while after

24:14

this. I mean, you've you've you've denigrated

24:16

the whole item.

24:18

A. S.

24:21

James, and on Robins. Good

24:24

afternoon. You're listening to Alice James and

24:26

John Robins on Five Live, or as it's

24:28

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24:31

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25:01

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25:03

Well, if trust is your bag, than I could

25:05

name any one of five live presenters

25:07

from Adabayotas Altzman.

25:09

But what is it about this show that

25:11

earns us BSI KiteSmart classification?

25:14

Is it John's lightning fast humor? His

25:16

witty retorts to define him more than his ability

25:18

to shuffle a deck of cards in a sexy way

25:20

or vapes her optitiously on public

25:23

transport.

25:24

Is it my

25:28

ability to shoot on references to the great

25:30

watchful of John Charles into

25:32

conversations with his ghost in record fee ventus is not

25:34

only irrelevant, but it shows that I'm

25:36

emotionally distant and don't listen.

25:39

No. It's Stockport's poet, Gloria, to

25:41

produce Dave. I was still point in turning

25:44

world, Arren Forrester, our father

25:46

who art in Cheshire. And it's

25:48

a good thing that Dave is so reliable in

25:50

times of crisis. because

25:52

John is broadcasting from home this afternoon as

25:54

he's picked up a pre World

25:56

Cup injury. There we go. John,

25:59

picked up a nigga. Is he gonna be on

26:01

the plane? That's the question everyone's asking.

26:04

Superb introduction

26:06

there, Ellis. you

26:08

know, wonderful summation of

26:10

what five live is as part

26:12

of the BBC Radio family.

26:15

Yes. I am coming from home today

26:18

listeners. Ellis question

26:20

-- Yeah. -- what is the

26:22

one defining passion

26:24

that is always has

26:26

always and will always be central to

26:28

my life. The

26:30

horror of the self That's

26:31

close. But

26:34

there's but there's another one, Dave. Any

26:37

ideas? Gold.

26:38

Gold. Gold. Gold. Gold. it's

26:41

not got I'm quite I'm actually quite

26:43

upset that neither of you've got this

26:45

because the one defining passion

26:48

that is at the absolute core of my

26:50

existence has been is and

26:52

will always be is

26:54

the need to play dodgeball. Yes. Right.

26:56

Okay. Yeah. You know, how many

26:59

times have we spoken about my

27:01

exploits on the Dodge Court? Well,

27:03

it's how you unwind. It's

27:05

how I'm trying to prep yourself up.

27:07

Yeah. It's what most of my tattoos are

27:10

about. So you it's

27:12

it's how you prep yourself up, how you bring

27:14

yourself down. It's also what you're doing

27:16

listening. Listeners will know

27:18

from listening to our show over the past

27:20

years. When I dodge It

27:22

just brings up the best in me. Yes.

27:24

Yes. It makes me a better person.

27:27

Yeah. And it's been

27:29

fundamental to my incredible physique.

27:31

over the past fifteen years. I

27:33

mean, it's it's a great file for

27:35

your competitive instincts. Yeah.

27:38

Yeah. Yeah. So as someone

27:40

who is if can say, hashtag born

27:42

to dodge no plan b.

27:47

Every so often you give you give

27:49

you give too much. I'm not gonna make an apology for

27:51

giving too much to the dodgeball court.

27:55

I made Sorry.

27:57

Let's go on the other I mean,

27:59

the

27:59

thick when I think about the two of us

28:02

on the

28:03

phone, What

28:04

you keep coming back to the mother what it is I'm

28:06

trying to discuss with you is the

28:08

strength you found in the dodgeball community

28:10

Do you know what? You're absolutely right.

28:13

And so many people I now know

28:15

and I hang out with, you know, pursue other

28:17

interests with, we met through Dodge.

28:19

What's the color? give people who play

28:22

dodgeball. Is it dodges? Badgens.

28:24

Badgens. Badgens. That's nice.

28:26

It's actually Oh, god. of dodges.

28:29

I've got about eight different dodgeball WhatsApp groups,

28:31

the jammi dodges, the

28:34

dodge brothers, Stodge

28:36

than Dodge, which is when we eat before

28:38

playing Dodgeball. Then I've

28:40

got Dodge then Dodge, which is when we

28:42

eat after playing Dodgeball to totally different groups

28:45

of people. the dodgeball

28:49

retirees -- Yeah. --

28:51

fund, benevolent fund -- Yeah.

28:53

-- for past dodgeball players who've

28:55

fallen on hard times. dodgeball

28:57

kids is for the youngsters in your life who play

28:59

dodgeball. Oh, the next generation is

29:01

the only generation as far as I'm

29:03

concerned. Yeah. because I can I can

29:05

watch I can watch Monday dodgeball

29:07

wither and die or I can

29:09

invest in tomorrow.

29:10

I can I can watch it flourish.

29:12

I can water that seed or

29:14

I can ignore it. Those are the two choices.

29:16

Yeah. Yeah.

29:18

Anyway, as per dodging

29:20

on Wednesday went down

29:23

to the dodgeball court.

29:27

Sure. may

29:28

have may have thought the plan was

29:30

for just a group of like minded comedians

29:33

to mess around on a dodgeball court

29:35

may not have been fully aware that we'd been entered into a

29:37

dodgeball league. Oh, no. And

29:41

we're playing against some

29:43

pretty aggressive at times quite unpleasant dodgeball

29:46

players. Who who do I think

29:48

give dodgeball a bad name?

29:50

Well, the thing was I thought this

29:52

was recreational dodge. So I

29:55

turned up just thinking, okay, time to pass

29:57

on a bit of wisdom, show people how

29:59

the works, the basics, I

30:01

didn't realize we were coming up against

30:03

elite dodgeball players who we didn't know

30:05

and who were all quite tall. Right.

30:07

And height is important. Isn't it jobs

30:09

we know in the world of dodge. Well, also, with

30:12

my dodgeball inclusivity

30:15

hat on, It's

30:17

also important to have a a gender

30:19

balance as stated in the rules of this

30:21

specific Dodge Good place.

30:23

They didn't have that and

30:26

that was reflected in their attitude,

30:28

demeanor, and the amount of injuries they caused

30:30

our team. So

30:32

as we were asking the referees just to refresh

30:34

some of the newer members on what the rules

30:36

of dodgeball were, they were in

30:38

several tactical huddles and

30:42

As soon as the game started, it was clear

30:44

that despite my many many many

30:46

years of experience of playing Dodge

30:49

while week in, week out that we were gonna get absolutely

30:52

decimated, humiliated, and embarrassed,

30:54

which is in the spirit of the games,

30:57

Ned. It's in the spirit of the game at this.

30:59

Yeah. I don't play. I destroy. That's

31:01

what I always say when I was playing

31:03

dodge. And about halfway into the

31:05

second set, I picked up an

31:07

injury to my calf, which

31:09

is why I am coming from home

31:12

today because

31:13

not put too

31:15

far in a point on it. It could not have

31:17

come at a worse time professionally

31:19

or personally. Yeah.

31:22

Yeah. because you need

31:24

your car to podcast on your job. You

31:26

need your car to podcast made.

31:29

Yes. So anyway,

31:31

interrupted interrupted

31:35

a little bit of work, a little bit

31:38

of personal progression.

31:41

However, I am I

31:43

am of the mind that it's not as

31:45

serious as I first thought I'm kind of

31:47

new to muscular injuries.

31:50

Yeah. And to step

31:51

back into reality for a second where

31:53

I'm not someone who's been playing

31:56

Dodge both for fifteen years, but

31:58

played dodgeball for the first and last

31:59

time on Wednesday. Yep. Muscular

32:03

injuries, I don't really know much about

32:06

I think it's more the realm of your fiber

32:08

cider, your physio -- Yeah. --

32:10

your your your triathlete. Yeah.

32:14

And what I found so frustrating and

32:16

what may have meant that I

32:18

cried for a very small amount of time

32:20

afterwards -- Oh, John. -- is that I'm

32:22

in like I've never I'm not I've

32:24

never been fit in my life, but I have been

32:26

committing. You've been going to jail

32:29

fit. Twice a week for a

32:31

year. Right? So I've

32:33

never been fitter even though I won't wouldn't still

32:35

describe myself as fit. And yeah, I'm the

32:37

one who hopples off the

32:39

Dodge Court And what it was

32:41

was we took a photo of us all

32:43

afterwards and then I couldn't go out for a

32:45

a drink because I just had to get home and get it

32:47

iced and whatever. Like, a missing in

32:49

the photo? No. I

32:51

sort of I'm sort of very serious.

32:53

So So I couldn't walk

32:55

So, ladies. Pay your

32:57

go to the pub and this dodgeball court

32:59

was like in the middle of a school in the middle London, so

33:01

it was a middle of a maze get out of, but I

33:03

just wanted to find the quickest route to a

33:05

road so I could then get a cab to take

33:07

me

33:07

to a tube station that would get me home and then

33:10

get a cab home to just rest

33:12

up. I

33:12

realized I'd hobbled off pathetically in

33:14

the wrong direction, and then I had to hobble

33:17

back. John, it's all a

33:19

bit much. But

33:22

yeah. So that's that's where I'm at. I

33:24

I'm Dave, you're a bit of an an

33:26

an expert on your your your

33:29

sports injuries. I'm not. I mean,

33:31

it's never stopped doing from

33:33

broadcasting. You made it in after

33:35

breaking your collarbone. Was it? think was

33:37

broadcasting the following Friday after the and I

33:39

I've said it before I say again, the type

33:41

three collarbone fracture. You know, it

33:43

was it was up there with one of the worst. Yeah. Yeah. But

33:45

you're not walking on your collar bones. I've said it once,

33:47

I've said it in a thousand. I mean, you can try, but it's very,

33:50

very good. Yeah. Do you know what the thing

33:52

inside a gig last night? And

33:55

I spoke to the promoter, our friend, Will,

33:57

and I said, Will, I can't drive. I can't get

33:59

the train. I can't walk. I can't

34:01

do the gig. and he made it clear

34:03

through a variety of emojis that that

34:05

was not possible and that I would

34:07

have to do the gig. So we tried to

34:09

sort of work out all the

34:11

different ways I might be able do it. Also, the trains were messed

34:13

up because of the strike action that didn't

34:15

go ahead. So anyway, I went for

34:18

a

34:18

little test drive in my car.

34:20

And weirdly, I can wiggle my ankle fine. I've got sort

34:22

of total flexibility in my ankle as soon as

34:24

I put any weight on my leg. It's --

34:26

Yeah. -- like, you know, those little

34:29

Those little wooden toy soldiers used to get where you

34:32

press the bottom and they just collapse.

34:34

Yeah.

34:34

Yes. Those are traditional

34:36

toys. It's like one of those. Right.

34:39

for me, because

34:40

I were able to John.

34:42

This was a few days ago now, isn't

34:44

it? Your dodgeball injury Monday night? Does it

34:47

maybe? No. It's Wednesday. Wednesday night? Okay.

34:49

So on is this is day three

34:51

or day two, really? Are you

34:53

showing any improvement at all?

34:56

Yes. And initially, I

34:58

thought I'd like torn a ligament and I'm

35:00

gonna be out for six to eight weeks, which

35:02

it was causing me a great

35:05

deal of stress because

35:08

obviously, you know, Gulf is a big part of

35:10

my life. Some have said it's the only part of

35:12

my life. But, like, the idea of

35:14

not being able to get out and about for eight weeks is like carnage. Yes.

35:16

However, the next day

35:18

I woke up, it still

35:21

painful when I walked, but it hadn't gone like on black

35:23

or anything. There wasn't any bruising. Today, it's

35:25

it's better still and I can

35:27

get around the house It's

35:30

more now that the way I limp

35:32

is causing me other muscular problems

35:34

because it's making me walk in an odd way.

35:36

I think you'd

35:38

be alright. I I hurt my my knee in

35:40

January, and I played

35:42

football in Sunday night with Rob

35:44

Beckett's brother. I'm bank

35:46

John. You you can look at it from this.

35:48

You're you're in the frame of life. You're

35:50

only forty. I

35:52

know. And you know, like all forty year old men,

35:54

I I took the decision that

35:56

my body was in peak physical

35:58

condition and

35:59

it was time for me to embark on a brand new impact sport

36:02

with no training or warm up. Yes.

36:04

Yes. Of course. because that's what guys in their

36:06

forties do. Yeah. Yeah. It's

36:08

very thick. It's

36:10

about time I started to

36:12

try hurling -- Yeah. --

36:14

or free climbing. It's about

36:17

I through no some

36:19

preparation exercise. I think I'm ready. I think

36:21

I'm gonna toss the Kaiba, actually. I think

36:23

I'm gonna toss in highland games.

36:26

I think I'm gonna enter the

36:28

London marathon. that tomorrow. Though I think

36:30

I'm actually now thinking what's happened,

36:32

Dave. And if any listeners wanted who know

36:34

about this sort of thing, because like

36:38

say it's not my area can

36:40

you get like what

36:42

I'm calling mega cramp? because

36:46

I it felt like cramp. Deaf got

36:48

it. It was Decon cramp

36:50

is what it was. For two thousand.

36:53

I

36:53

Whether that Whether I you

36:55

can mistake a pole or a strain for

36:58

cramp, but it was so bad I

37:00

couldn't walk.

37:01

Maybe I'm like those top

37:04

level footballers --

37:06

Yeah. -- are actually taken off with Cramp. Tiny

37:08

little niggles of the or the

37:10

little things that put you off. Well, if you'd like to text John any

37:12

advice about his medical shoes,

37:14

text Exactly. But just

37:18

that It's just that place. No one's listed advice about the others.

37:22

You're listening to

37:23

Ellis James and John Robbins

37:25

on BBC Radio five

37:28

line. Europe's

37:28

premier dodge ball list here, Johnny,

37:30

JR, John Robbins alongside

37:32

producer Dave and Ellis, We

37:36

are talking because of

37:38

my dodgeball debut, and I have to

37:40

say final bow. I'm never gonna step

37:42

foot on a dodgeball out ever again,

37:44

I'm going to be available in a

37:46

coaching capacity. That's the wrong answer to John.

37:48

You wanna get back on the horse?

37:51

on the dodgeball horse. No, I

37:53

don't because this is what I've always

37:55

said. This is what I said about Dave trying to

37:57

play five aside again. He's got a little bit

37:59

more now to true. No. I can't. No. He didn't. He did

38:01

his hamstring play with Lila in his back garden.

38:04

Trying to show off to send you a lot of

38:06

video of me being ready to play the Fiberside

38:08

game. Well, like,

38:10

two weeks my medial again. I played five sided, Rob Beckett's brother on

38:12

Sunday, and I felt Just stop going

38:14

on about

38:16

it, Lynne. You're

38:18

never

38:19

gonna meet Rob Beckett. This isn't your way to

38:21

Rob Beckett, you

38:24

know? just because everything he touches

38:26

turns to gold. Some of us just have to live in the gutter. Okay.

38:32

So

38:32

we are talking about

38:36

your one time wonders. What

38:38

have you

38:40

done once and why? First up, this is from

38:42

Kelly. I've done one successful

38:44

handstand in my entire life. My

38:46

elbows overextended

38:48

hurt like crazy for hours and no knew I

38:50

was diagnosed with hypermobility and was

38:52

advised not to do anything like

38:54

that again. I hadn't

38:56

done anyway, but it's nice to have that backed

38:58

up by medical professionals superb

39:00

news, Kelly. I I

39:02

think my doctor's hypermobile She

39:05

really Yeah. She'll say, hey, dad. Look at my flexible move, and she'll

39:07

do a sort of back bend that makes it look

39:09

like she's made of elastic bands.

39:12

It's absolutely crazy. I know she's

39:14

a a young girl, but it's

39:16

nuts the sort of

39:18

position she could find herself in and

39:20

not find them painful. Yeah. Isn't

39:22

that all kids? I think that's all kids,

39:24

Ellis. But, I mean, it's it

39:26

is nuts -- Right. -- honestly, she could she

39:29

could touch her the backs of her uncles with her

39:31

hands, but by going around the others, it's

39:34

nuts. Like, it's on the side.

39:36

Like, it's nervous.

39:38

superhero. But it's did

39:40

she in pain afterwards? No. She's

39:43

if anything accelerated. Right. And I

39:45

don't like kids. So she'll say, hey, dad, check

39:47

me out, and she's sort of touching

39:50

her toes with her forehead is just yeah.

39:52

Anyway. Anyway, this is from heaven. Something

39:54

you only do once. Forgetting tie your

39:56

long hair while using a machine drill because your hair only needs

39:59

to be caught once. Just to clarify,

40:01

someone pushed the stop button before I

40:03

got a big ballspot. Oh,

40:07

oh, man. No.

40:09

Thank you. No. Thank you. Mhmm. I thought it was

40:11

gonna butchers and the sick

40:14

on the bacon slicer

40:16

by mistake, and it was going towards someone

40:18

like in a bond film there to press the

40:21

emergency stop. and it stopped just oh, yeah. You still tell us.

40:23

You've never told me your dad worked in a

40:25

butcher in the in the late nineteen

40:27

sixties. Ellis, I thought we didn't have secrets

40:29

from each other. You

40:32

didn't do it for very long. It doesn't

40:34

it doesn't define him.

40:36

Just because he didn't do it for

40:38

very long, doesn't mean it's

40:40

okay to lie to me. Sorry. Yeah. And

40:42

dodgeball defines John. Did you

40:44

mean the name wrong? Yes. That's true. Good point. Good

40:46

point. If I'd known your dad, had experience in

40:48

the butcher's trade list. Our

40:50

entire relationship would have been completely

40:52

different. And my I was I here

40:54

was me. thinking he's just a

40:56

quantity surveyor through and through. No. But no. He There's a

40:58

catalog of lies. In a

41:00

milk crunch, and

41:02

he lost his milk crumbs to Gareth Davis,

41:04

the ex wheel's International British

41:06

Lion, so into the symposium. how

41:09

deep does this deception go? Because

41:11

Todd always claims that Gartner Davis was

41:13

a tremendous, I've said, half in the seventies

41:15

and of early eighties and done Always claims that

41:17

Cartier was so much quicker off the mark than

41:20

him. That's why he was gonna lose his

41:22

milk grown because he could just get those points of

41:24

milk to a doorstep. second

41:26

and second counts over a long milk

41:28

plant. Yeah. You're gonna tell me that your

41:30

mom hadn't been a careers adviser all the life. Now you're gonna

41:32

tell me what she used to work because the waiting

41:34

were lady in waiting for the queen? No. She

41:36

worked she worked in Kamada market, and

41:38

she wore a fingerless grubs, gloves. What

41:41

You're telling me this now? Yes. What did what did she

41:43

sell in? Come out of the market, please? I

41:45

don't know. I'll have to she's probably mom's

41:47

probably listening. I'll have to ask what else does she

41:50

do? She I've got a few jobs. Yeah.

41:52

All all sorts of stuff. Two, I'm I'm not

41:54

I'm I'm an open book jump.

41:57

Well, no, you're not. No. I say that's the

42:00

opposite way. You're closed, you're closed, you're closed, Chuck. Yeah. You're

42:02

closed book. I'm a book. I haven't

42:04

decided if I'm not been or

42:06

closed yet. This is from Dylan. What

42:08

book would you be actually out of

42:10

interest? They come

42:12

to details. You

42:14

might be aiming too high. I reckon if you were a book,

42:16

it would definitely have a ghost writer. And

42:22

the title would be written in signature font, and

42:24

there'd be a picture of a sort of

42:26

mid level sports person on the

42:30

front. who had had one moment of a

42:32

lot of fame that they'd cashed in on with a book. Yeah.

42:35

Yeah. Oh,

42:38

thank god. Oh, you've absolutely

42:40

done me there, John.

42:42

This is from Dylan. I

42:44

climbed up at 3H7 as everyone said it

42:46

was fun. I fell out and

42:48

winded myself. I never climbed

42:50

a tree again or even understood it

42:52

as a fun concept, couldn't agree with you

42:54

more Dylan once you'd

42:56

been wounded. Tree climbing is rescinded. That's what I always say.

42:58

So it's awful being winded. It's not

43:00

something that happens to you really as an outdoors.

43:02

Something that happens to quite often as

43:04

a kid. It

43:05

happened to I remember when I used to play comedian's football, it

43:06

happened to me once when I

43:08

fell. And actually, it was when the

43:12

comedian Prince Abdi, unintentionally broke

43:14

my rib falling on me, but it

43:16

was the winding at the time.

43:20

because it

43:20

it throws you back into like PE, I

43:22

almost think you're gonna cry because your

43:24

your memory is of getting winded at

43:27

school and and being and sort

43:29

of being quite careful. Yeah. Oh, John.

43:31

Oh, John. Well, I think

43:33

we're hearing too much about your injuries.

43:35

I think we should move into a realm where you're

43:37

far more comfortable the use of your massive brain

43:40

in Ask John. If you've not

43:42

got the lizard in your source fat, you might

43:44

as well fire to

43:46

everything you own. Mustered in the fridge,

43:48

are you high? Fire a pound for

43:50

every pound people could save by making sure

43:52

their tires were at the correct pressure. I'd be

43:54

a billionaire Two words. White wine vinegar.

43:56

Ask John. That's

43:58

right folks. You can email

43:59

ellison

43:59

john at BBC dot co dot u k with any of

44:02

your questions

44:04

me to answer. And it's a biggie Dave

44:06

today. So the first question

44:08

comes from George. Hi, John. Quick

44:11

question for you here. who

44:13

decided there'd be twenty four hours in a

44:15

day, and how did they make everyone in the world

44:17

agree with them? Right. right

44:21

Here we go. First off,

44:23

Georgie, you say quick question. This is

44:25

an absolute humbly

44:28

leading dog. Also, no

44:30

one really decided there would be

44:32

twenty four hours in the day. It

44:34

kind of

44:36

evolved. in the following way. So Ellis Oh,

44:39

hang on. No. I'll I'll start

44:41

in a different way. So He's

44:44

overwhelmed. It's too big. No.

44:46

It's too big, John.

44:48

So let's let's talk about two

44:50

groups of people. Let's talk

44:52

about -- Happy Newsy among the Jews.

44:54

-- know the Egyptians and the Babylonians.

44:56

Don't confuse things guys. Okay.

44:59

I'm gonna have to walk you through this. The Egyptians

45:01

and the Babylonians were the

45:04

first first civilizations to divide the

45:06

days into different parts. The Egyptians

45:09

used duodecimal number

45:12

system, which is

45:14

base twelve. and the Babylonians used a sex

45:16

addressable system, which is base

45:18

sixty. Partner

45:20

now. Why do you think

45:22

the Egyptians use base twelve and

45:24

the Babylonians use base sixty?

45:27

What is base

45:29

sixty more of a laugh? Why

45:32

don't you look

45:34

at the palm of your hand?

45:36

Stretch out those little digits

45:38

and the answer will reveal itself.

45:40

I would hope.

45:42

So basically What dry skin

45:44

on the inner thigh? Yeah. No. It's nothing to

45:46

do with dry skin on the inner thigh, Dave.

45:50

if you count the the

45:52

segments, the knuckles, and creases in

45:56

your fingers, Right? You're

45:58

123456789

45:59

ten, eleven,

46:02

twelve. So the highest

46:04

number you can count up

46:06

to using segments of your fingers

46:08

equals twelve. Twelve times how many fingers and thumbs

46:10

is your friend in mind. Six

46:14

sixty. So the Egyptians

46:16

use twelve as their number

46:18

based system, the Babylonians use

46:20

sixty, also sixty is the boom.

46:23

the smallest number that

46:26

can be divided Go ahead in your

46:28

hands. The smallest number

46:30

that can be divided by

46:32

the first six

46:34

counting numbers.

46:36

So sixty can be divided by 12345

46:40

and six So it does make sense. Quite a useful number

46:42

anyway. Too big. This is too big

46:44

John. Right. You're feeling off more than you

46:46

could chew John. No. The Egyptians --

46:48

No. --

46:50

first The Egyptians were the first people to divide the day into

46:52

separate segments. They divided it

46:54

into ten hours, but let's not worry about

46:56

what an hour's. They divided it into ten

47:00

segments with something called shadow clocks and then ended one hour at the

47:02

each end, one for twilight and one for the end of

47:04

the day. But the idea of,

47:08

like, saying

47:10

I'll meet you at half past

47:12

eight is a relatively modern one. Okay?

47:16

So the Egyptians have now

47:18

got their the

47:20

t shaped sundials marking

47:22

the day into twelve parts.

47:26

However, the nighttime, you couldn't really

47:28

do this. they had to use

47:30

the stars. I'm going to just

47:32

gloss over this a bit. There are

47:34

thirty six star groups

47:36

called Deacons. not named after John -- Yeah. -- that

47:38

rose consecutively in the horizon as

47:40

the earth rotated, and each deacon

47:42

rose before sunrise, marked the beginning of

47:44

the day, thirty

47:46

six deacons led to thirty six

47:48

times ten equals three hundred and sixty

47:50

days of the year.

47:52

It's also why we

47:54

have three hundred and sixty degrees in a

47:56

circle. So

47:59

skipping

47:59

on somewhat.

48:02

We go to the

48:05

Greeks who were trying to

48:08

understand the stars and the galaxies a little

48:10

bit more.

48:12

And hipparchus gave us equinoxial

48:14

hours, right, equinoxial hours

48:16

by proposing the division of a

48:18

day into twenty four equal hours.

48:21

So the Greeks and the are the Greeks now

48:24

like like in Kahoots with the

48:26

Egyptians? Are they playing are they playing together

48:28

or are they playing are

48:30

they rivals? There's not we they're sort of thinking about it modern

48:32

terms like an arms race. It's

48:34

just it's it's an evolution through

48:38

different cultures. But

48:40

the twenty four hours wasn't

48:43

actually until fourteenth century Europe

48:45

when people started to

48:47

make mechanical clocks. that

48:49

people really even bothered using a

48:52

system of hours because you why do you

48:54

need it? You know,

48:56

why do you need to keep exact time.

48:58

If you're if all you're doing is sort of

49:00

farming and eating and

49:02

sleeping, it's a it's a luxury

49:04

was actually I I'm gonna start trying

49:07

to live without Yeah. I want to go back to

49:09

a simpler system. I'm just counting using

49:12

the notches on my fingers.

49:14

Being up when it's daytime, asleep, when

49:16

it's nighttime, I

49:18

Do you know what? The thing I like to put that answer was that

49:20

John, at all times, appeared so comfortable.

49:24

He just had all of those fucking

49:27

in the palm of his hand, which he does use to tell the

49:29

time. He does. It's it's it's

49:31

very interesting, but it's not really it's

49:33

a hard you could do like

49:35

an hour long podcast on it. It's in our time, isn't it? It

49:37

is it. I hope

49:38

it isn't in our time. The

49:40

voice of the UK. Say five

49:42

live on the as

49:44

you being told off by a lifeguard. Listen wherever and whenever

49:47

you like. On BBC

49:50

sounds. That's right. The

49:52

Voice

49:52

of the UK. They still don't

49:55

work. Those did they, Dave? They charge. Just leave it for

49:57

today, Shaul, because you know we're gonna try

49:59

and work on those. little

50:01

what we call in the radio industry, sweeping

50:04

or eye dense. But you're not

50:06

here, are you John? So we're just having to put that

50:08

on the boat. It's on the back burner for

50:10

another week. don't worry. And I think they

50:12

worked fine, Ellis. Sorry about John. How

50:14

early on? I would say

50:16

that the first bit of the sweeper

50:18

is correct, the Voice of the UK. Yeah. We

50:20

don't just define a

50:22

nation, we reflect a nation. We have

50:24

our fingers on the pulse of the nation.

50:26

That's the thing that we do. It's kind of

50:28

thing that John and I do research. the

50:30

concerns of our listeners.

50:32

It's actually in my contract that the day it

50:34

becomes the voice of France, I handed

50:36

my notice.

50:39

or any or any sort of mainland

50:42

European country? I don't wanna be the vice of

50:44

Lithuania. No. No. Thank you. wanna be the vice

50:46

of the UK. Not of interest

50:48

to me. And

50:50

I think we

50:50

do a really good job of it,

50:53

actually. But occasionally, We've

50:55

had some pretty nasty texts

50:58

today. We have. Yeah. Reminds me of our

51:00

first week. Some some people really didn't

51:02

enjoy learning about why there are

51:04

twenty four hours in a day. You're

51:06

kidding. Sorry for educating the

51:08

nation. Yeah.

51:10

However, occasionally, we

51:11

hit gold. We hit a

51:14

rich theme of content. And last

51:16

week, as part of

51:18

the petty parliament feature, we

51:21

were discussing phone number formations when you were giving your

51:23

phone number to someone, maybe someone

51:26

in the call center, how do you break

51:28

up the numbers? because you can't do it on

51:30

when Google too many to remember. So there are different formations, you're five,

51:32

you're two, you're two, and you're two.

51:34

That's a classic. You're five, you're three.

51:35

If you thought the history of the twenty four hours

51:37

in the day was

51:40

was was pretty basic, boring stuff. Wait till you hear what

51:42

we're gonna be talking about now. Yeah.

51:46

However, John, this,

51:48

it became a

51:49

talking point. It became a water

51:51

cooler moment. Didn't it? It absolutely did. But with

51:53

the voice of the UK, we don't

51:56

have water pillars in the UK. It was the it was the voice of the

51:58

tea break. Yes. It was a cake

51:59

replacement. It was a it was the voice of

52:02

the cheese

52:04

roll. Yeah. It was the

52:05

voice of cellophane being unwrapped off

52:07

a sandwich at lunchtime. Ordinary. It was

52:09

the voice of someone

52:12

microwaving Mac crawl even though they've

52:14

been told repeatedly not to because it

52:16

really stinks out the office. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

52:18

Yeah. So we

52:20

discussed this I my Twitter is now almost unusable because

52:22

I've had so many. I've had so

52:24

many up messages with people saying, oh, I do

52:26

a five or two at a two at

52:28

A20I do A5A4

52:30

and a two. So we have we have a guest on the

52:33

show. We can talk to

52:36

Tanya Abraham. who

52:38

works for YouGov, Tonya's research

52:41

director at YouGov. So

52:44

last week's petty parliament

52:46

suggestion, which came from Ian. It was about how people

52:48

should recite the phone numbers, and it took the nation

52:50

by storm. Someone that

52:52

you've spotted what we were talking about on the

52:54

five of Twitter page decided to ask the

52:56

question to their members early this

52:59

week, they asked, when saying your phone number

53:01

out loud? How do you usually recite

53:03

it? And they can't over three and

53:05

a half thousand people respond right. So,

53:08

Tanya is here to run through the

53:10

results of the survey.

53:12

Hello, Tanya? Hi. Thanks

53:13

for having me. Oh, it's

53:15

it's our pleasure. So

53:17

in the YouGov world,

53:19

did we

53:20

really really hit gold with

53:22

this? It's

53:23

one of those topics that everyone kind

53:25

of has an opinion on. And like

53:27

you said, there's water cooler moments in

53:29

the office or just trying

53:31

to settle the debate with friends. There's

53:34

always opinions on both

53:36

sides. And yet, this is one of those things where

53:38

people clearly have quite a strong

53:40

opinion on.

53:41

And the

53:42

responses, was it a fairly even

53:44

split? Did did did one

53:46

formation come out in sort of on

53:48

top? was one formation far more popular than

53:51

the others? Yeah.

53:51

It's certainly good. So we found

53:54

that fifty four percent

53:56

preferred the five thirty three

53:58

formations. So An example is, 1234567890

53:59

This is the

54:02

kind of overall

54:04

top preference. of

54:06

the public. And then we had two other options, which

54:08

is the four thirty four, which

54:10

is chosen by twelve percent and

54:13

then the five two to two options, which

54:15

was chosen by ten percent

54:18

And it just depends on what

54:20

your preference is, but the

54:22

fifty four and it's really

54:24

quite AM. A stark stand out

54:26

or a stack there. I'm a I'm a

54:27

ten percenter because of the vibe

54:30

of my foreign and Britannia. So Oh, see.

54:32

Okay. Two numbers are the same in

54:34

my phone number in the final six

54:37

digits. So I would do

54:39

five at the top like a silver area code. I'm

54:41

talking about my mobile number, but the fact that the numbers

54:43

repeated in the middle means that if I

54:45

split it up three and

54:47

three, it just it sounds like

54:49

I'm making a mistake. Sure. And,

54:51

yeah, it definitely depends on the the numbers,

54:53

the digits within within

54:56

the number. And

54:58

yes, people have a preference. What's

55:00

interesting is that there's no real

55:02

obvious differences between gender

55:04

or age as far as we

55:07

can see. but there are perhaps some differences

55:09

when it comes to where respondents live

55:11

in the country. So the

55:14

majority of all British regions

55:16

prefer the 533

55:18

formation, except the London,

55:20

where whilst more people do prefer

55:22

this formation, twenty

55:24

one percent also prefer the

55:26

434 formation. And perhaps that's something

55:28

to do with the way the numbers are

55:30

in London in terms, as you know,

55:34

02071234567

55:37

So, you know, regional differences are

55:39

apparent here as well.

55:41

So the north south divide is alive and well,

55:43

even when it comes to giving a

55:45

call center your phone number.

55:47

Well, more

55:48

so the London and

55:50

outside of London Dubai perhaps. Yeah. It's

55:52

the London media phone number

55:55

of citing Elite. Tanya,

55:58

this was only for landline numbers,

55:59

wasn't it? Because obviously, a mobile

56:02

number might change

56:04

the vibe.

56:05

Well, the question was just phone number

56:07

out loud. It didn't really specify

56:10

whether it's mobile or landline.

56:12

We also - we

56:14

did ask an additional question kind of in the last day

56:16

or so, just asking about how many phone

56:18

numbers people have memorized.

56:22

And that looked at the

56:24

differences between landline and

56:26

mobile phone numbers. So what

56:28

we found is that zero point three

56:30

eight dollars they haven't memorized

56:32

any numbers excluding their own number. And

56:34

forty seven percent so

56:36

that comes to landline numbers.

56:38

And when it comes to mobile

56:40

phone numbers, forty seven

56:42

percent so they haven't memorized anything.

56:44

So it's quite an

56:46

interesting one as

56:48

an additional add on to your original kind of topic

56:50

and question because some

56:52

people remember lots of landline

56:54

numbers from when they were

56:56

kids or when they were younger

56:58

phoning less brands, home phones

57:00

rather than mobile numbers.

57:02

So yes, again, an

57:04

interesting and related

57:06

topic to what you're talking about. Tanya,

57:08

I

57:08

don't remember my partner's phone number,

57:10

but I do remember that the phone number of

57:12

a girl had a crush on in nineteen ninety five.

57:15

where what weird does you go stand on

57:17

that? I I think that might be something

57:19

for you guys to discuss. That's Okay.

57:22

Tanya,

57:24

as as you know, Five Life is the voice of the UK.

57:27

YouGov slogan is

57:29

what the world thinks. I

57:32

am I'm sensing a potential merger

57:35

here where the

57:38

world's brain is

57:40

voiced by the UK.

57:42

Could we have a

57:44

sort of a five live you

57:47

gov hook up who think like the world

57:49

but speak like Britain? I think that's a very

57:51

interesting proposal and I shall

57:54

suggest it to the

57:56

higher ups.

57:56

Thank you. Who

57:58

is it at

57:59

YouGov? Who is who listens to our

58:02

show? I'm

58:03

sure there is a

58:05

wide demographic spread. of people who listen to this show.

58:07

But I think this kind of topic will always

58:10

get people talking about about

58:11

listening. So any other

58:14

topic to

58:16

survey? if you want any other have up Switchboards,

58:18

is a country's cream egg

58:20

the perfect weight of thing to throw was

58:22

a big one? And should you keep

58:25

a waste paper bin in the lounge

58:27

and what foods give you gas. For us

58:29

-- Yeah. -- I've always played big.

58:31

They've always played big

58:33

priority areas. Yeah. Thank you very

58:36

much. That's Tanya from

58:38

YouGov reflecting the UK's

58:40

approach to reciting their

58:42

phone numbers But we're talking about your one time wonders. What

58:44

have you done once and why? This is

58:46

because I played dodgeball for the first

58:48

time on

58:50

Wednesday. and after picking up a calf injury, which has led several

58:52

listeners to describe me as a

58:54

spoiled bourgeoise and welsh. That

59:00

was all the same text, or is

59:03

that three different? Yeah. No. That was all the same text. The

59:05

guy who said I was spoiled in Bausch was

59:07

also thinks I'm welsh. No. He's

59:09

talking about me. He

59:10

just got confused. Why? What do

59:12

you mean spot for plain dodgeball? I

59:17

think he's complaining about getting injured.

59:19

He then goes on to list

59:21

numerous injuries that he suffered without moaning about

59:23

at all. Oh. It's

59:26

it's okay. Sounds cool. With a sort of level of recall that suggests he really

59:28

did moan about them because they were they were

59:30

ready to go. Yeah. Here are all the

59:32

things I've not complained about too. I've not

59:34

I've not

59:36

seen this text. I can't wait to read this. Always one for the

59:38

spreadsheet. Anyway,

59:40

yeah, we're talking about

59:43

your one Time wonders. Ellis, what do you

59:45

got? This, I can't get my head on

59:47

this. This is some

59:50

anonymous, unfortunately. I once try

59:52

to open a bottle of whole garden using the front wheel of my bike whilst cycling.

59:56

Whoa.

59:56

war

59:59

I ended up getting my

1:00:02

thumb jammed in

1:00:02

the spore. I flipped over

1:00:04

my bike and smashed the bottle everywhere.

1:00:08

the girl I was trying to impress was not amused, never again.

1:00:11

No, anonymous. I

1:00:13

know I'm

1:00:13

sort of coincidentally, when

1:00:16

you when you think about what we've been discussing the show this afternoon,

1:00:18

I do know the last four digits of your phone number.

1:00:20

What? Please elaborate on

1:00:23

this. I'm gonna read it again. I'm gonna try to open a

1:00:25

bottle of Horgan using the front wheel of my

1:00:27

bike whilst cycling in motion. I ended

1:00:29

up getting my thumb jammed in the spoke clipped off

1:00:31

my bike and smashed a bottle everywhere. I don't see how

1:00:33

that could be possible. Well, it's

1:00:35

not a crazy decision. Well, no specific. It's not

1:00:38

possible. Is it? that's

1:00:39

Darwin Awards level of -- Yeah.

1:00:41

-- sort ofificosity there.

1:00:44

But I can see in the moment how you

1:00:46

think No, I can't actually know that I think that's the stupidest thing anyone's

1:00:49

ever done. This

1:00:51

is

1:00:51

from Joe.

1:00:54

I played one frame of snooker with John Parrott back in two

1:00:56

thousand five. As he was an after dinner

1:00:58

speaker, the work event I was at.

1:01:02

I broke he scored seventy something and I conceded all in

1:01:04

front of a crowd of fifty colleagues. He put

1:01:06

me off a life I haven't played

1:01:08

before. Oh, This

1:01:10

is from Joe in the first

1:01:12

week of Eunni I attended an American football training

1:01:14

session. To that practice was on the same

1:01:16

night as rugby training, so I never went

1:01:19

back. It wasn't enough, however, for my fellow would be playing

1:01:21

flute mace to call me Joe Montana.

1:01:23

This nicholas starts out uni, and on the

1:01:25

team's sheet, it simply

1:01:28

said Montana. Other members of the team even thought my actual name was Joe

1:01:30

Montana subsequently, the nickname has been passed

1:01:32

on. I don't know if it's still going on, but for many years, it

1:01:34

was a Montana in each freshest rugby team at

1:01:36

Northumber universe.

1:01:38

city.

1:01:38

Anyway, you

1:01:41

are

1:01:41

listening to Ellis James and John Robbins

1:01:43

here on BBC Ridge of Five Life. Now

1:01:45

it's time to enter the

1:01:47

petty parliament.

1:01:48

Order, order,

1:01:52

eyes to the right, nose to

1:01:54

the left.

1:01:56

Yeah. Yeah. I find the right

1:01:58

honorable gentleman

1:01:59

annoying. Ellison John's petty

1:02:02

parliaments. I sentence

1:02:04

you to

1:02:04

ten years. It's not

1:02:07

the best

1:02:07

of the court.

1:02:10

On BBC five Life, Yes.

1:02:14

The parliament is

1:02:16

open, and I'm delighted to say we

1:02:18

have a slightly more stable turnover

1:02:22

of members. then Anyway,

1:02:24

I'm not David. David,

1:02:27

listen. David, I do

1:02:29

you know I should? and

1:02:31

they keep writing. They keep writing

1:02:33

saying, John, will you come up with the fun

1:02:35

quips to go on the front cover?

1:02:37

Yeah. And I say

1:02:40

I'm I'm

1:02:40

not the voice of satire. I'm the voice of the

1:02:41

UK. Yeah. So

1:02:44

the petty parliament is open. This is where you send

1:02:46

in laws you would like to see past, and

1:02:49

the punishments like see enacted for transgression, and

1:02:51

Ellis, Dave, and I will vote to

1:02:53

see which become law. His first

1:02:56

one is

1:02:58

from Neil. Neil

1:02:59

says I think people who put spent matches back in the box should

1:03:01

have to channel their inner Ray Meers to

1:03:03

create fire from friction for

1:03:05

the foreseeable future. The

1:03:07

person who regularly finds and removed the spent matches,

1:03:10

me is the only person who determines

1:03:12

when the punishment is over and the lesson has

1:03:14

been learned.

1:03:16

Thoughts? I hadn't used

1:03:17

matches for years, and then

1:03:20

when I children, obviously,

1:03:22

birthday parties, you get back in the

1:03:24

match buying

1:03:26

game. And I had

1:03:27

completely forgotten how

1:03:28

we're rotating it is for someone to

1:03:30

put back spent notches into the box.

1:03:34

It's it's deeply, deeply annoying.

1:03:36

So yes, I I love

1:03:38

the punishment, and I'm glad that this has been

1:03:40

flagged up because it is a problem.

1:03:43

A big question for you, Ellis, since you

1:03:45

got into the match buying game. Are you

1:03:47

team cooks or are you team

1:03:49

Bryant and May? Cooks.

1:03:51

and -- What? -- guns to be cooks. I'll I'll

1:03:54

go Brian to May then just -- Thanks.

1:03:56

-- save balance. For

1:03:58

match balance. which is amazing.

1:03:59

buy them for Brian

1:04:02

May. Oh, and yeah. I mean, I'm I'm not

1:04:04

doing that, John. That's why you do them.

1:04:06

Also, they're not safety match here, so you can like them

1:04:08

when your teeth like a cool dude. What

1:04:10

you're seeing? I'm not doing that

1:04:12

either. I used to do that. You know what you're

1:04:14

talking about all the ways I used to use a

1:04:16

Zippo lighter to impress girls and I was like

1:04:18

my pipe at school. Yeah. One at

1:04:20

centers. I also used

1:04:22

to light matches on my teeth. On

1:04:24

your face because I saw it looked

1:04:27

It sounds as silly it sounds like

1:04:29

that could follow on to be as silly as the

1:04:31

story of opening a whole garden with

1:04:33

a moving bike wheel. Yeah. one

1:04:35

in one in three, you get AAA

1:04:38

sort of a flaming

1:04:40

little ball

1:04:42

of pink stuff off the end of the munch of your tongue. Yeah. You burn burn

1:04:44

a few holes in your tongue. Right. So we should

1:04:46

suggest not to do that. Don't do that. So you put

1:04:48

matches out here with

1:04:50

your mouth. No.

1:04:52

Oh,

1:04:54

Dad used to do that in the eighties.

1:04:58

different times back in the eighteenth. We get back on safe for ground, please,

1:05:00

whilst we're broadcasting nationally. You can also like them

1:05:02

with your fingernails if you -- Yeah. -- know

1:05:04

how to do. I could never do that.

1:05:07

Well

1:05:07

Right. Yeah. That that that

1:05:09

just just to say, I'm also with

1:05:11

you guys. I think, yeah, used

1:05:13

match is is poor form.

1:05:15

Yeah. And

1:05:15

also, Neil, it's interesting that you mentioned

1:05:18

Rameers there because what Ray would

1:05:20

say is when

1:05:22

using matches, make sure

1:05:24

that you replace some matches

1:05:27

wedged between the sort of

1:05:29

box and the cover pointing out so

1:05:31

that if someone then comes in to the

1:05:34

cabin or the rescue lodge

1:05:36

with frostbite, they're able

1:05:38

to they don't have to be too decks just to

1:05:40

get them they can just grab them and strike them to light the

1:05:42

fire, which also you must have laid

1:05:44

when leaving the cabin. Oh,

1:05:46

that's good. Mhmm.

1:05:48

I

1:05:48

mean, it's it's less an

1:05:50

issue at children's parties. Yeah. Unless

1:05:53

unless the party is

1:05:56

taking place in either the north or south pole or for

1:05:58

example,

1:05:59

Greenland or Canada in the

1:06:02

boreal forest. Yeah. No. No.

1:06:04

No. We we don't have to worry about

1:06:06

anything. But still great great point. Just

1:06:08

advice, John. Yeah. Thanks,

1:06:10

man. This we say

1:06:12

pointless advice, Ellis. That advice has

1:06:14

saved lives in the

1:06:16

wilderness.

1:06:16

Yeah. It's just If I'm

1:06:18

ever in the wilderness, something would have might gone so

1:06:21

horrifically wrong. Then actually death would

1:06:23

be

1:06:23

a welcome relief.

1:06:28

Yes. If you woke up in the

1:06:30

boreal forest in the middle of

1:06:32

January, you'd think there's no point

1:06:34

fighting this No. Let's just

1:06:36

get comfy and lie

1:06:38

down. I

1:06:39

in the nicest

1:06:42

possible way, I would love

1:06:44

to watch a reality show where you

1:06:46

were just dropped in the boreal

1:06:48

forest. I wouldn't wanna you

1:06:50

wouldn't have to die. Just

1:06:52

then we'd pick you up before you sort

1:06:54

of lost after you'd lost your first toe.

1:06:56

Oh. We'd we'd helicopter you out. First

1:06:58

out of the program, the desperate search

1:07:00

for pretz. Next

1:07:10

up, this is from

1:07:12

Steven. The engineers involved in

1:07:14

developing the time remaining

1:07:16

indicator on washing machines. When the

1:07:18

timer indicates only a few minutes left, the

1:07:20

reality is invariably double

1:07:22

figures. e g, when the time remaining

1:07:24

is apparently three minutes,

1:07:26

that's usually translates to fifteen minutes before the door unlocks.

1:07:28

And when the time remaining showed at one minute

1:07:30

in reality, it's at

1:07:32

least five. Punishment is

1:07:34

offenders must provide an on call service to go

1:07:36

around an empty washing machines and hang

1:07:38

out the washing of machine owners who couldn't oh,

1:07:40

wow. Hang on. We haven't done the eyes have it for the first one.

1:07:42

So what you what were you gonna

1:07:44

go

1:07:44

for, John? Retrospective eyes have

1:07:48

it.

1:07:49

So the eyes have it. The eyes

1:07:52

have it. Unlock. I'm

1:07:53

sorry, Dave. That was really messy. That

1:07:55

was a bit. We could have just because we I was aware

1:07:57

of that, but because there's a slight delay on the line.

1:07:59

I didn't

1:07:59

wanna chip in, but

1:08:01

we should've let that slide. We should've let that

1:08:03

one slide, John. But we're learning, aren't we? I think

1:08:05

we'd I'm so sorry. I think we'd been structured

1:08:07

by the idea of me being

1:08:09

dropped into the boreal forest and looking for prayer

1:08:11

for an hour. I'm gonna call frostbite at

1:08:14

the hills. Well, Dave, what

1:08:15

I'm gonna do quite seamlessly now is start the next one again so that when the podcast

1:08:17

is released, which is available to

1:08:19

download on b b see

1:08:21

sounds. Yeah. It's gonna just be seamless. You work quite deep into this one though, John. We're going back

1:08:23

to the start. Are we? Yes.

1:08:26

I I do know we'll

1:08:29

I don't mind it being messy on the pod because it makes you

1:08:31

look authentic. That's true. It just makes

1:08:33

you look like an on

1:08:36

this broadcaster. Offenders

1:08:38

must provide non cool service to go around an

1:08:41

empty washing machines and hang out the washing of machine

1:08:43

owners who couldn't wait any longer. For

1:08:45

example, before leaving for work, taking kids to school,

1:08:47

or getting into a taxi that's always been waiting or already been

1:08:49

waiting for five minutes, thoughts,

1:08:52

guys. I Alice

1:08:55

has a very expensive washing machine.

1:08:56

Sure. That's deep. So he's probably not

1:08:58

got a problem with this. I I've

1:09:02

gotta be honest. as much as I pride myself

1:09:04

on being the

1:09:05

voice of the UK as

1:09:08

part of the Five

1:09:10

Life team. We did buy

1:09:11

a new washing machine about two years ago.

1:09:13

Tell me how much it cost to

1:09:15

I'll be sick. No. I

1:09:17

don't think Thank you. That's what it

1:09:19

is. Champions League is I don't think it's a discussion topic

1:09:21

for the region. Tell me how much your costs are. I'll be

1:09:23

sick. I don't I'm not gonna tell you a much

1:09:25

I'll take off my trousers and be sick.

1:09:28

And I'll tell you how much I paid for my washing machine.

1:09:30

Can I have one guess and you tell me higher or

1:09:32

lower? I

1:09:35

can't quite remember if I'm honest. Oh,

1:09:37

it's nice. So III mean, I can text

1:09:39

I can text his email.

1:09:41

but I'll I I don't

1:09:43

understand. Was it more than a grand? I Wow. That means yes.

1:09:46

Oh, man. Oh, goodness me.

1:09:51

What model is it? Dude, it doesn't matter, John. Should

1:09:53

we carry on with the I wanna see

1:09:55

what it is. It does. That's

1:09:58

about it later. I I you probably don't realize this,

1:09:59

but Lamborghini has started making

1:10:02

washmish. No. It's not a

1:10:04

Lamborghini, but it is it's the

1:10:06

best thing in my life. Apart from his Machine

1:10:08

machines are

1:10:08

like three hundred quid on there. Yeah. Well

1:10:11

yeah. Good. I I don't wanna

1:10:14

discuss washing machine prices. Oh,

1:10:16

no. I know which

1:10:18

one is. However What I know you are disgusting. you

1:10:24

are absolute. You're a disgrace to naive.

1:10:26

I I get I use it

1:10:29

or not. It's a good It's a

1:10:31

good washing machine. This is a You're doing your most

1:10:34

excellence in the title. Pardon? Has it got the word

1:10:36

excellence

1:10:36

in its title? No.

1:10:39

I didn't accept. Okay.

1:10:40

No. It's on Alice. It's not

1:10:42

the coupes of washing machines. It is. It's it's just a good washing machine. Anyway,

1:10:48

don't need to I don't need to discuss

1:10:50

my personal life on air like this. You should've thought of that before you agreed to a podcast

1:10:52

with you May

1:10:54

every week for seven years.

1:10:57

Do you wanna just

1:10:59

you do enough podcasts about

1:11:02

Blooming football in Haverford West? Haverford

1:11:04

West. you've

1:11:07

you've obviously nailed my

1:11:09

brow there. Right. So

1:11:11

I must admit one of

1:11:13

the best things about it is that the countdown timer is very, very accurate. So I can think

1:11:15

back to our previous washing machine, which we didn't which

1:11:18

we'd inherited from the previous owners of the

1:11:20

house. Yeah.

1:11:23

Sure. The the countdown time. I don't

1:11:24

think it even had one actually. I think it

1:11:26

was sort of a like a clicking dial.

1:11:30

Yeah. But The new washing machine, which I must admit, is

1:11:32

a prized possession of mine. And occasionally, good

1:11:34

downstairs and look at it in the middle

1:11:36

of the night. The countdown clock

1:11:39

is very accurate. I don't feel that

1:11:41

I'm the best person or the best place person to discuss

1:11:43

this. Sorry. Well, I guess my question is about. The question to

1:11:45

us, Dave, is

1:11:47

do you think an accurate washing

1:11:49

machine countdown should just be the domain of the

1:11:51

one percent. Or do

1:11:54

you think that this sort

1:11:56

technology should be available for everyone.

1:11:58

IgE nurses? John, that is such a good point. The nurses

1:11:59

should have access to

1:12:02

Accurip. Thank you, John. I

1:12:04

agree. I

1:12:06

think I think the NHS should buy good wash machines

1:12:08

for every one of its stuff. Yeah. And Teachers

1:12:10

and Teachers as well, actually. Yeah. Teachers

1:12:13

and emergency workers. Fun People who work for the council

1:12:15

and people who work on Britain's roads. I don't

1:12:17

I don't see you taking it watching

1:12:20

machine down to help any of those

1:12:22

people out or or even offering for them to bring their washing to your house. You

1:12:24

get anyone's welcome to come around. We don't got

1:12:26

a temple dryer. So they'd love to take

1:12:29

a home in them to dry, but yeah, if you

1:12:31

wanna wash your course, come around, doesn't bother me. Yeah. Mhmm. Maybe

1:12:33

maybe wear clothes. Maybe

1:12:36

their clothes will dry in a lot of

1:12:38

the hot air coming out of your mouth

1:12:40

too. So I

1:12:42

would also like to

1:12:43

broaden this out

1:12:45

to software companies

1:12:47

where they say your

1:12:51

software is updating, and it goes it goes

1:12:53

from one to ninety nine percent in

1:12:55

a smooth motion over

1:12:58

the course of a minute. and then it stays on ninety nine percent

1:13:00

for an hour. Yeah. Yeah. What is

1:13:02

that? What was that? It's a

1:13:05

national and

1:13:08

international disgrace. every single percent of a

1:13:10

progress bar should by law have to move at the same

1:13:12

speed. and

1:13:15

that speed represents the progress. That's what a progress bar

1:13:17

is. Otherwise, there's no point in having

1:13:20

one. Yep.

1:13:22

Yep. I completely agree. I

1:13:23

completely agree. And even in my world

1:13:25

where we've got nice washer machines,

1:13:27

that's also a problem. So

1:13:32

the

1:13:32

is it the eyes again, John?

1:13:34

Gosh. Take the

1:13:34

eyes have it. So the eyes have it?

1:13:37

The eyes have it. I'm not

1:13:39

It is it's Pestip parliament's really,

1:13:41

really taken hold two weeks in a row now. We do have to apologize to Ronnie

1:13:43

who's been at call the two weeks

1:13:45

in a row. Your kid We've

1:13:48

we've we've time

1:13:51

twice, which has never happened before for this week. Yeah. So so can

1:13:53

we can we have Rami on after the news

1:13:55

day? We can. Absolutely. Yes. Yes. Let's

1:13:57

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back to the show everyone. It's Ellis

1:14:31

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1:14:35

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1:14:40

spectrum, both ends of experience, both

1:14:42

domestic situations, i. a humble loner,

1:14:46

rural Bucks and Ellis,

1:14:48

a kind of aristocrat

1:14:50

living in a world with

1:14:52

a cap dosing, twin dose,

1:14:55

quick power wash functions. and a two year

1:14:57

warranty for peace of mind. I've I've I've gotta

1:14:59

say, I never didn't think you could make

1:15:01

a washing machine with a

1:15:03

cocktail bar attached. but it's

1:15:05

a thing of beauty and I I'd say I envy you. Someone from Carlisle

1:15:08

has texted him to say my washing

1:15:10

machine's broken click him to your store

1:15:12

wash I

1:15:15

I prefer if you if you give me some PayPal

1:15:17

details to give you money to go to the

1:15:19

laundromat because if if

1:15:21

you have a link to me, Absolutely. Our child mind

1:15:23

has been using our washing machine because hers

1:15:25

is broken. That's fine. Oh, you're so

1:15:28

kind. So just

1:15:30

just to just to be clear, if you don't know

1:15:32

Ellis, he would rather just use money

1:15:35

to pay you off than

1:15:37

to than to open up his house to

1:15:39

let you experience, you know, I think

1:15:41

it's a one of a kind Fabergé

1:15:43

washing machine. You open up the

1:15:45

top and there's there's a just there's an another

1:15:47

washing machine in exact clockwork washing machine inside --

1:15:50

My car. -- it was originally

1:15:52

owned by Tsar Nicholas the

1:15:54

second. We sent this washing machine.

1:15:57

my car is thirteen

1:15:59

years old. III

1:16:01

tend not

1:16:03

to be extravagant. apart from this one

1:16:05

time, and I've got to be honest, it was with every penny. The thing is amazing. For Janice can

1:16:08

I say what

1:16:11

the maker's did? No. not

1:16:13

after all this. He kidding me. We could've maybe got away with saying

1:16:15

the brand at the beginning, but not after he just excelling the

1:16:18

virtues of a watch I'm assuming

1:16:20

in my life. Twenty minutes. It's the best

1:16:22

thing in my life. Do you know what? I I

1:16:25

think we documented at the time.

1:16:27

I went through quite the

1:16:30

emotional rollercoaster selecting a mattress --

1:16:32

Yeah. -- which almost resulted

1:16:35

in a total mental collapse

1:16:37

inside dreams high wickham. Yes.

1:16:39

because once you've lain on one, never lay on

1:16:41

another one

1:16:42

because the choice will cripple you.

1:16:44

Yeah. However,

1:16:46

I went outside of my

1:16:48

financial means for the mattress and

1:16:50

I've never looked back. So it

1:16:52

is okay to treat yourself on

1:16:54

one thing every so often. You spend half over

1:16:57

half your life on a

1:16:59

mattress. If if if six

1:17:01

have really got partly. or you're just very,

1:17:03

very tired all the time or you do a

1:17:06

lot of work in bed. A lot of

1:17:08

naps.

1:17:09

A lot of naps. And also, every

1:17:11

you spend all of your clothes in a

1:17:13

washing machine. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

1:17:15

Every single clothing you ever

1:17:17

wear goes in a washing machine.

1:17:19

So, I mean, I think sixteen grand is ex is

1:17:22

extortionate. Sixteen grand. But there

1:17:25

you go. A lot of

1:17:27

people actually asking if If if they

1:17:29

can

1:17:29

swing dialysis Yeah. Ben in Worthing is us to

1:17:31

come around to

1:17:35

do a wash. I mean, if if if you're a

1:17:37

friend of mine, absolutely, I don't think I can open it up to the nation. But it is

1:17:40

it's a good company. I'm

1:17:42

I'm very pleased with it. Someone

1:17:45

texted

1:17:45

him to say, I meant to disgrace for

1:17:47

using a dishwasher when there's only one person, irrelevant how many people there are

1:17:49

to use a dishwasher, and it's not

1:17:51

a waste of energy. you

1:17:54

don't understand how dishwashers work. Anyway,

1:17:56

we've got a caller on

1:17:59

Is that rainy day? Ronnie

1:18:01

because of It's the over It's the

1:18:03

petty parliament overspill. Ah.

1:18:06

Ronnie, I apologize. I'm

1:18:08

so sorry. And thank you

1:18:10

for Thank you for keeping this petty parliament in

1:18:12

your locker for so long.

1:18:14

Hello. How

1:18:15

are you? Good.

1:18:16

Thank you. Where are you calling

1:18:19

from? I'm

1:18:19

calling from just outside Nottingham. Oh.

1:18:21

So

1:18:22

We're between Nottingham

1:18:24

when

1:18:25

and Darby.

1:18:26

Oh, on Frankfurt. We've been

1:18:28

fairly close. Oh.

1:18:29

Very close to the a fifty two. Yeah. Yeah. We're out of interest

1:18:31

because I just like

1:18:32

to know

1:18:34

these things. junction twenty four, so

1:18:36

it's a little village called kegworth

1:18:38

-- Oh. -- which

1:18:40

is

1:18:42

near East Midlands

1:18:43

airport. Right to it. And

1:18:45

what sort of washing machine have

1:18:48

you got?

1:18:49

Quite a basic one, I

1:18:51

think. Yeah. Like, ninety nine point

1:18:54

nine percent of the population. I've got

1:18:56

no idea what brand of

1:18:58

washing machine it

1:18:59

is? Ronnie, please don't

1:19:02

get drawn into the malaise.

1:19:06

Ronnie, what's your petty parliament?

1:19:08

So I've

1:19:09

been conducting my

1:19:12

own bit of

1:19:14

research. quite a small sample size

1:19:17

involving my full

1:19:19

time husband and that's

1:19:23

it really. But I think

1:19:25

there's a I I've

1:19:27

noticed a correlation between the

1:19:29

jars that get put back in the cupboard when

1:19:31

they're empty or very

1:19:33

nearly

1:19:36

empty,

1:19:36

Mhmm. And the

1:19:37

the the ease of washing them ready for recycling.

1:19:39

So if it's

1:19:44

something like Beanut

1:19:44

butter or marmite. Yeah. Then for

1:19:46

some reason, they they're they're, you

1:19:48

know, not dealt with -- Yeah.

1:19:50

-- which is really quite frustrating

1:19:54

paying. Right. You're just going to a

1:19:56

bit, you know, Ma'am, my Tom toast, don't you

1:19:58

open the jar? There's not enough

1:19:59

in there. And I

1:20:02

don't think it makes anyone happy. Is your full time husband guilty

1:20:03

of this, Ronny?

1:20:08

He

1:20:08

is I can't think who else

1:20:10

it could be. And I I think it says I think it says a lot about him. I think it says a lot about

1:20:12

a person. I mean,

1:20:14

yes. I can

1:20:15

really point Can

1:20:18

I point to a similar behavior, Rami,

1:20:20

which is people who leave

1:20:22

a toilet roll with two

1:20:25

sheets of toilet paper. on the

1:20:27

toilet roll holder. John's been to my

1:20:29

house. Yeah. Knowing

1:20:30

it's not gonna be enough for any

1:20:33

kind of any kind of substantial

1:20:35

toilet but they've done it to avoid taking the toilet roll to

1:20:37

the recycling. Yeah. It's the same person. It's

1:20:39

the same person.

1:20:40

It's the same

1:20:42

person.

1:20:42

A kind of carat to

1:20:45

-- Yeah. -- absolutely. So can I be able to make it

1:20:47

quite a nice washing machine maybe? And and

1:20:51

there'll be like, Well, I didn't wanna I

1:20:53

I didn't wanna waste the last scrape of Marmite because that would be wasteful. And you're like,

1:20:55

I know you're gay.

1:20:59

I see you. It's

1:21:02

just inconsiderate. It's it's what you're saying. If you do that, what you're saying is

1:21:04

I don't care about you,

1:21:06

I think. What you're saying is

1:21:09

what you're saying is My your time

1:21:11

is not worth my effort. Absolutely. the

1:21:14

same. Marni,

1:21:15

what would your

1:21:18

punishment be? Well, we've got

1:21:19

to have a punishment because -- Mhmm.

1:21:21

-- the divorce threats

1:21:22

and the love brands are

1:21:25

not working.

1:21:28

Mhmm. So I propose

1:21:29

that the perpetrator has

1:21:31

their own part

1:21:33

of the

1:21:36

cupboard or their own cupboard ideally. Mhmm.

1:21:38

And the rest of the family or the rest of the people in the household

1:21:40

get to open a new jar and

1:21:42

then they they will use half of

1:21:46

that jar, and then it will get passed on

1:21:48

to the perpetrator. So the

1:21:51

perpetrator never ever gets to

1:21:53

open a new jar. They never

1:21:55

have for the rest of their lives, that's satisfaction of

1:21:56

I love it. Yeah. New child

1:21:58

of ours. It's one of

1:21:59

the great I'm gonna life's great

1:22:02

pleasures. New need child of ours, I

1:22:04

think, Lovely. Rami, I've

1:22:06

got to be honest, I feel for your husband because I we sent we sent very very

1:22:12

similar I knew it. Yeah. But the reason

1:22:14

I leave less than two percent of the jam left in the jar and don't do anything about it is because

1:22:17

I always

1:22:20

think that my personality is gonna change. I'm gonna

1:22:22

sit down with that jam and scrape up the remaining two percent for a isotopes

1:22:24

and then wash it, but I

1:22:26

can always put that day off

1:22:29

That's

1:22:29

Is that a lie, Ellis? Are you lying to yourself? It's a lie lie. It's a lie

1:22:31

to myself. I mean, that is what

1:22:34

I do, but I am lying to

1:22:36

myself. If

1:22:38

I were to hazard a guess about the way

1:22:40

Ellis uses jam, I'm gonna say that

1:22:42

that last two percent is full of

1:22:45

crumbs and butterflakes. That's what I thought.

1:22:47

Actually, no. That's Oh. because I'm complex.

1:22:49

You are It's like it's like The

1:22:52

day you stop surprising me is the

1:22:54

day we're not so in love. It's like I whenever

1:22:57

I read books, it's like

1:22:59

they've they've just been bought from the shop

1:23:01

because I'd I I will not have a damaged

1:23:03

spine in my house. So

1:23:05

I

1:23:05

am. I'm a complicated character. But Rami, I think it's an excellent punishment

1:23:07

because it's not too over

1:23:12

the top. So I like the way

1:23:14

that you thought about this. Yeah. I think it's quite a serious one though

1:23:15

because it can really

1:23:18

put a strain on a

1:23:20

relationship

1:23:22

you know,

1:23:22

that could be

1:23:23

scary. I would also suggest the next

1:23:26

time it happens with the Marmite forcing

1:23:28

your husband to eat an entire a

1:23:30

jar of marmite, like when parents

1:23:31

used to make their kids smoke

1:23:34

twenty flags. Oh. But

1:23:35

anyway, without doubt, the eyes have

1:23:37

it. Thank you for the eyes have

1:23:39

it. eyes have it. Unlock. If you have a petty parliament, send

1:23:41

it to ellis

1:23:41

and john at BBC dot co dot u

1:23:44

k. You're

1:23:46

listening to ellis james and

1:23:48

John

1:23:48

Robbins on BBC Radio five live. That's right to listening

1:23:50

to Alice James and John Robbins here on

1:23:52

BBC Radio five live with

1:23:55

you until four PM. but

1:23:58

now with the time coming up to a quarter past three, why do we play a

1:23:59

up game?

1:24:06

Games. Man,

1:24:14

you never one of them.

1:24:16

Games more everyone else.

1:24:18

Games made up one

1:24:21

of us We'll spend every

1:24:24

rainy day, every woman, every man,

1:24:26

every child with a man, okay.

1:24:28

Every week we play

1:24:30

again. that has been made up by you. The you, the listener at

1:24:32

home, it might have been made up on a

1:24:34

very boring holiday, very boring car journey. Maybe

1:24:37

you had a power cut, and

1:24:39

the tally wasn't working. who knows. But either way,

1:24:41

we love to play your mid up game to now. I'm gonna hand over to producer,

1:24:43

Dave, our quiz master, games master, to let

1:24:45

us know what we're playing

1:24:48

this afternoon. Thank

1:24:50

you, Alice. This week's game comes in from Bob. Whilst reading the BBC News website last week, I came across

1:24:52

an article that has inspired me

1:24:54

to create a made up game.

1:24:59

On the fourteenth of November, the official chart turned

1:25:01

seventy. And the BBC article

1:25:03

in question listed the

1:25:05

UK's most streamed songs released

1:25:08

from each calendar year. The basis of

1:25:10

this article has led me to creating

1:25:12

absolutely streaming as the

1:25:14

name. Producer Dave will play a clip of a song which has been crowned the

1:25:17

most streamed song from

1:25:19

the calendar year that

1:25:22

it was released. Oh, okay. So

1:25:24

it's song you have to do.

1:25:26

streamed song of two thousand and seven.

1:25:29

It's what was more released streamed song

1:25:31

released in nineteen sixty seven. Exactly. Yes. Exactly. All

1:25:33

you have to do is tell us which

1:25:35

year the song the song came

1:25:37

from. You'll have a point for every year out that

1:25:39

you are in the lowest score at the end of the game win. So you're aiming for

1:25:41

that much coveted. Zero points to getting the year bang on for each clip for Macawni would be

1:25:44

superb because they

1:25:47

would be. They'd be great. So, yeah, just to be clear, we're asking for the calendar

1:25:49

year, it was released not the year in which it was

1:25:52

most streamed. What

1:25:54

are

1:25:54

you winning songs? It's been

1:25:57

so long since I've won. I can't actually remember. Okay.

1:25:59

Oh, it's most part of dice by

1:25:59

storm rules is.

1:26:02

What about you, John? Well,

1:26:05

to celebrate fiftieth anniversary of the album transformer, I

1:26:07

am going for vicious by Lou Reed. Great.

1:26:10

Okay. Are we ready?

1:26:13

Seven rounds in total, bit of a bumper bumper-rounded

1:26:15

game. Here we go for round one.

1:26:22

It's Elton John's

1:26:25

Tony Dunn. So

1:26:27

if you really

1:26:30

wanna boil the game down, what

1:26:32

year was the song released? Dave, but you've done

1:26:34

a nice thing. You've thrown across to the BBC website. You've

1:26:39

the listener, you do you do more than you know, Dave.

1:26:41

Really? Thanks. Oh, I misunderstood this game. I thought

1:26:43

you're gonna say nineteen seventy three, what's

1:26:45

the most really stream song that

1:26:47

came out to from that

1:26:49

year is what I thought the game

1:26:52

knows. Oh, this is the game. So but

1:26:54

Alice will come

1:26:54

to you first, please. Not an alternate

1:26:56

bird

1:26:59

like John. So I

1:27:01

am going to say

1:27:03

nineteen seventy four.

1:27:05

John

1:27:06

hit me. I've also gone seventy four,

1:27:08

but I've just realized that I thought it

1:27:10

was on a different album. I think tiny

1:27:14

dancer might be don't blame

1:27:15

me. I'm just the piano player in which case it's later, but I've

1:27:17

I've written it down. Okay. Well, I've not got

1:27:20

further details to the singles that

1:27:22

we're picking, but it is actually

1:27:24

nineteen seventy two. So you're both two years out.

1:27:26

Yes.

1:27:26

Oh, I was gonna say nineteen seventy three, but I'd already

1:27:28

said it, and I thought

1:27:30

that would be bad luck. That's

1:27:34

all you thought. Very superstitious. I'm a Nice. From mad men across the water. I knew it's from mad men across the water. I

1:27:36

knew that. I knew

1:27:39

it. From the lord. Round

1:27:42

two. Here we go. This

1:27:47

is our fate. which

1:27:52

I'm sure you're both familiar with.

1:27:54

Damn to get the day goes.

1:27:56

It sounds like

1:27:59

it's from the future. It's

1:28:01

it's

1:28:01

one of those songs which annoys you

1:28:03

how catchy it is. Yeah. Just okay. Catch

1:28:08

you like I'm annoyed that I liked

1:28:10

the song so much. Do you recognize the song? Yeah. Yeah.

1:28:12

John

1:28:12

will come to

1:28:15

you first, please. I'm gonna go

1:28:18

twenty ten. Twenty ten LS. Two thousand

1:28:19

six. Two thousand and six. And

1:28:22

the year was two thousand and

1:28:24

eight. Oh,

1:28:27

so

1:28:27

it's it's still too old.

1:28:29

I thought one of YouTube gonna

1:28:31

go wildly wide of the mark

1:28:33

there with that one, but it's good.

1:28:35

You know, you pop. It's not really in

1:28:37

musically

1:28:37

in my wheelhouse so far,

1:28:39

Dave. That's alright.

1:28:42

This this the chances of noi being one of the most

1:28:44

streamed songs is very, very sorry. Did you know

1:28:46

there was a gig from the guy from

1:28:49

noi in London? Robin went. Oh, I didn't know that. That

1:28:51

would have been fun. Never mind. We've all we've also got

1:28:53

very strict clearance restrictions these days. Is it We

1:28:56

mean I

1:28:58

think it's quite limited. turned out that the thing I thought I had to do last night didn't

1:29:00

happen, so I could have gone to see pavement and

1:29:02

could have. Never mind. Here's round three. It's

1:29:07

free

1:29:08

with my. You're

1:29:10

your own

1:29:11

way. Classic.

1:29:15

Ellis. Nineteen

1:29:16

seventy nine. Nineteen seventy

1:29:18

nine. John? Nineteen seventy seven. Nineteen

1:29:20

seventy seven. We have a leader. We

1:29:23

have a leader of the It's John

1:29:25

because it was nineteen seventy six, which means you just add one

1:29:27

point to your score there. John, whereas, Ellis, you've

1:29:29

added three there with This

1:29:32

feels significant. That's a

1:29:34

big moment halfway through the game. It's a significant

1:29:36

frame. It's like when a player

1:29:38

goes for all instead of five

1:29:43

three in the snooker day for you. Yes. Feels significant.

1:29:45

Okay. Good stuff. Next

1:29:47

track. Here we go.

1:29:52

Now if you recall, Alice couldn't

1:29:54

name a

1:29:55

killer song in a in a

1:29:57

previous made up game we had even

1:29:59

though mister Bright

1:29:59

side is everywhere

1:30:02

and still is. Okay. But what's the year, John?

1:30:04

Mister Bright side, an

1:30:06

India stay always going first.

1:30:11

I'm pretty sure with flip flopping me. Are we not? Sorry, Ellis. I I

1:30:13

said nineteen seventy nine last time. You

1:30:15

did actually join back.

1:30:17

See, I mean, I've gone two thousand and five.

1:30:19

Not came so. I've gone two thousand and

1:30:21

five as well. Have you both have you

1:30:23

both really?

1:30:24

Two thousand and three

1:30:26

two

1:30:26

years out. There's some

1:30:28

mad fact about how long the killers have

1:30:30

been in the top hundreds of the charts, and

1:30:32

I don't think it's been out of

1:30:34

that since it was released or something. Yeah. It's very consistent. It's

1:30:37

all

1:30:37

about Fucks, Steve. You need to tell us what

1:30:39

the fucks are. That's supposed to sing. Well, people

1:30:41

don't have to talk about that such

1:30:43

as what it is. tell you

1:30:45

what, there's some vague facts about the killers

1:30:47

and streaming service. So, yeah, really great vague facts. Next.

1:30:52

Next round. Speed jeans

1:30:55

on the end. Let

1:30:59

my to this Okay. Eurythmics.

1:31:02

Sweet

1:31:03

dreams, fart,

1:31:08

no, Alice. Nineteen eighty three.

1:31:10

Nineteen eighty three, John. I got eighty nine.

1:31:15

Nineteen eighty nine. we

1:31:18

have a new leader. Nineteen eighty three. Did you say nineteen

1:31:19

eighty three?

1:31:23

Yeah. Hang on. Yep. Nineteen

1:31:26

ninety nine six out, John. So you've lost a lot of ground there. That is significant

1:31:29

then. Yes. There's

1:31:32

been two hugely significant

1:31:34

moments in the game. three. Potentence. But it's like a pendulum, isn't

1:31:36

it? This made

1:31:39

it way? I think It

1:31:41

just keeps swinging

1:31:44

one way

1:31:45

to another. Next round.

1:31:48

Yeah. ACD

1:31:49

see

1:31:52

thunderstruck. John. Is that

1:31:53

is that a

1:31:54

bit of you? I'm not sure

1:31:57

it is. I

1:31:58

find it actually. And if

1:32:00

shot like thunderstruck by the CDC.

1:32:02

I'm not I'm not an ACDC

1:32:05

guy. So, I mean, I could this I could be way

1:32:07

out on this. Yeah.

1:32:12

I'm going

1:32:12

i'm i'm going I'm

1:32:14

gonna say nineteen eighty.

1:32:16

Oh, that was my guess. Nineteen eighty.

1:32:18

Nineteen eighty for you're both

1:32:21

ten years out. What? Nineteen

1:32:24

ninety was thunder shot. I would've die. No. It's

1:32:26

not a lie. I wouldn't I wouldn't like you

1:32:28

mid made up game at this. I

1:32:30

would have also gone a lot. Oh,

1:32:32

thunderstruck was released in nineteen

1:32:34

ninety. Yeah. Sure, dear. Yes.

1:32:37

The killer's fact Just to just to go back a

1:32:39

couple of rounds. The killer's mister Bright side

1:32:42

first chartered in June two thousand and

1:32:44

four. It's still in the top

1:32:46

one hundred all these years late. Dave,

1:32:48

You're right, but I don't believe you. How

1:32:50

are the killers are about ACDC? But ACDC was it was released in September nineteen nineteen.

1:32:53

Yeah. to

1:32:56

start googling. final round. There's only

1:32:58

four points in it, and it's rhinosomes, somewhere

1:33:02

of sixty

1:33:03

nine. Day four points in

1:33:05