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Unveiling the Mind-Body Connection and How Unresolved Emotions Manifest Into Illnesses with Dr. Skyler Hamilton Ep. 162

Unveiling the Mind-Body Connection and How Unresolved Emotions Manifest Into Illnesses with Dr. Skyler Hamilton Ep. 162

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Unveiling the Mind-Body Connection and How Unresolved Emotions Manifest Into Illnesses with Dr. Skyler Hamilton Ep. 162

Unveiling the Mind-Body Connection and How Unresolved Emotions Manifest Into Illnesses with Dr. Skyler Hamilton Ep. 162

Unveiling the Mind-Body Connection and How Unresolved Emotions Manifest Into Illnesses with Dr. Skyler Hamilton Ep. 162

Unveiling the Mind-Body Connection and How Unresolved Emotions Manifest Into Illnesses with Dr. Skyler Hamilton Ep. 162

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You know we often hear the mind-body connection

0:02

. I talk about the mind-body connection

0:04

, but what does that even mean

0:07

and what does that look

0:09

like ? Well , today's guest

0:11

is going to explain that and

0:13

share her story on how

0:16

real the mind-body

0:18

connection is . Today's

0:21

guest is Dr Skylar Hamilton

0:23

and she is about to blow

0:25

your mind . She specializes

0:27

in helping people tap into the power

0:30

of the mind to successfully

0:33

treat inflammatory diseases

0:35

, autoimmune and brain gut

0:37

disorders , among other complex

0:40

cases cases . A mind-body

0:42

psychotherapist author , peer-reviewed

0:45

published researcher and

0:47

lecturer , she

0:57

is an expert on the somatic effects of stress , trauma and anxiety . A product

0:59

of her methods , dr Hamilton once suffered from multiple sclerosis and

1:01

was bound to a wheelchair sclerosis

1:08

and was bound to a wheelchair With MS in remission . She now spends

1:10

her life empowering others to heal themselves , with or without medications

1:13

. Dr Hamilton's research on treatment of

1:15

brain-gut axis disorders with

1:17

the use of clinical hypnosis is

1:20

cited in numerous peer-reviewed journals

1:22

. Dr Hamilton lectures

1:25

on the mind-body connection

1:27

and its impact on disease

1:29

. Welcome

1:40

to Ella Go . My name is Lisa

1:42

. Welcome

1:48

to Ella Go , my name is Lisa . Join me on the journey in having real , raw and uncomfortable discussions

1:50

about fitness , health and everything

1:52

in between , because , let's be honest

1:54

, this journey would suck

1:57

if we don't get our shit together

1:59

. Okay

2:06

, so welcome Dr Skylar .

2:09

Hello , I'm so happy to be here . So

2:15

, dr , Skylar , why

2:17

don't you introduce yourself to the listeners ? So

2:21

I am a mind-body psychotherapist , a licensed psychotherapist , and what that

2:23

is is I specialize in how stress , anxiety , trauma

2:27

, unresolved anger , expression of emotions

2:30

, how it manifests in the body . So if you

2:32

have repressed anger and it comes out in migraines

2:34

, that's my area . When the doctors can't quite figure

2:36

it out , they get sent my way

2:39

.

2:39

Wow Okay , we're going to

2:42

dig deeper into that . Wow

2:50

, okay , we're going to dig deeper into that . But I wanted you to maybe share your

2:52

personal story where you were suffering from MS and bound

2:55

to a wheelchair . I'm going to back

2:57

up a little bit . So I

2:59

saw you on a podcast

3:01

and I literally

3:04

was like I couldn't

3:07

even like I couldn't believe it , the

3:09

story that you were saying , and

3:12

I think that , if you don't mind sharing

3:14

that to the listeners

3:16

, I think it would be very

3:18

impactful , because it definitely

3:20

impacted me .

3:23

Cool . So that is actually

3:25

how I came to be specializing

3:27

in mind-body connection . I'm going to get comfy for this

3:29

story Because

3:32

in 2002 , I was diagnosed

3:34

with multiple sclerosis . I actually was a

3:36

boxer back in the day , training to be

3:38

professional . So I was training four or six

3:40

hours a day . I was in Las Vegas actually it

3:43

was legit trying to make my

3:46

way in the boxing world , and

3:48

what happened was I was pushing myself four , six hours

3:50

a day . You're always trying to cut weight extreme

3:53

, extreme stress on the body and then

3:55

my father had just passed away shortly

3:57

before that and I fell into

3:59

convulsions and my husband

4:02

at the time took me to the hospital and

4:05

I ended up being very

4:07

sick with multiple sclerosis , had to have three

4:09

bags of blood put back in

4:11

and I was losing my vision . It

4:13

just went really , really quickly and

4:17

told I could never have kids , I

4:19

would be dead by 50 and I'm 51

4:21

. I made it , but

4:24

it was actually a very horrific

4:27

ordeal for a long time . And

4:29

, uh , one day this event happened

4:32

and I decided I was done being sick and

4:35

I was done . I was just done

4:37

, I was just done being sick and I

4:39

went and got an education . I

4:42

started doing all these little methods that I teach people

4:44

, uh , how to start changing the brain chemistry

4:47

and the way we observe stress , how we handle

4:49

our attachment styles . And then I went to a conference

4:51

and said , hey , how do I prove this to the world ? And

4:54

a colleague said get your PhD and prove it . So

4:56

I got my PhD and , uh

4:59

, but what I do is not with my degree

5:01

, what I do is from my soul , because I've

5:03

been to the darkest depths of humanity

5:05

. So I just want to empower the people

5:08

that it's possible .

5:10

So , okay , that's

5:12

a lot , okay . So do

5:14

you think that the

5:17

events that occurred in

5:19

your personal life with your father passing

5:22

, did you feel that that impacted

5:24

your health ?

5:28

Huge , and that's actually

5:30

even a part of this formula I created

5:32

. What is the mind-body connection and attachment

5:34

style is so relevant

5:36

to Z's progression . So , losing

5:38

a primary caregiver and

5:41

losing an attachment

5:43

, a secure attachment , a securely attached parent

5:45

to me , and

5:47

then the physical stress , the mental stress of

5:49

the death . It just was

5:51

the perfect formula . Perfect formula

5:54

.

5:55

Wow , wow . And then

5:57

when you said to yourself

5:59

, I'm sick , I don't

6:01

want to be sick anymore , can

6:04

you just talk a little bit about

6:07

like , what was that ? Like

6:10

you know , when people I tell people those

6:12

things , even from my experience , when you're just

6:14

like , no , I'm done , I'm and this is what

6:16

I'm going to do , I , what was one of the

6:18

first things that you did

6:20

when you made that decision

6:22

that I'm done being sick ? Did , when you made that

6:25

decision , that I'm done being sick .

6:25

Yeah , this is actually kind of an intense story

6:28

. I took a phase

6:30

four clinical trial drug , fda

6:38

approved , and I had a reaction to it and I actually stopped breathing . And I was working

6:40

as a teacher back then , single parent , two babies , and I remember just saying

6:42

no , don't take me , and this is get to the I'm done story

6:45

. So I stopped breathing

6:47

respiratory distress and I remember just saying no , don't take

6:49

me . And this is get to the I'm done story . So I stopped breathing

6:51

respiratory distress . I remember in the ambulance they just said

6:53

bag

6:55

her , we're losing her . I'm like what does bag mean ? And you're not losing me ? I'm arguing in my

6:57

head and I'm seeing everyone panic . I must not be breathing . Long

7:00

story short I stopped breathing , ended

7:02

up . The man next to me was having a heart attack . As

7:04

soon as the drug wore off , my respiration

7:06

came back . So I

7:09

was a single parent and my kid's

7:11

dad fantastic man came to be

7:13

with me at the hospital . He had to go back to

7:15

Orlando to work . I lived in Tampa . So

7:18

I actually called family members who were

7:20

in town busy and I said hey , can you please come take

7:22

care of the babies ? And the family

7:24

member said sorry , I'm skydiving

7:27

, I can't come help you . And

7:29

I just realized at that moment I

7:33

have to be done being sick , like I can't

7:35

rely on anybody . I'm

7:38

a single parent , I think like $30,000

7:41

a teacher God bless the teachers out there it's barely

7:43

above the poverty line . I've got two babies

7:46

. I can't be sick . No one's

7:48

coming . No

7:50

one is coming . And I'm not trying to say like

7:52

Mel Robbins , I was saying that long before and

7:54

that day I was done . It

7:58

was a defining moment where if

8:00

I don't get this figured out

8:02

, I'm going to die . If

8:06

I don't get this figured out , I'm going to die . No one's going to help me , no one's helping

8:08

with the babies . It was figure it out or die . And

8:10

it got to the point where there was no other option . And

8:13

when I made such a powerful decision

8:15

, I just became so determined

8:18

that nothing was going to stop me . And now

8:20

I'm epitome

8:22

of health .

8:23

And now I'm epitome of health . Wow , Wow

8:26

, that is amazing . So did you

8:28

ever go back to I mean , you know

8:30

people go see their doctors and

8:32

you know you get

8:34

your annual and all that Did you ever

8:37

go back to get a physical with

8:39

the same doctor , or any

8:41

doctor for that matter , Because they're going to see your medical

8:43

record ?

8:50

Like what was their response to all this I did ? I finally

8:52

went back to the neurologist and the first question she asked me is are you

8:54

gluten-free ? And I remember just like why did she ask me if I'm gluten-free

8:56

? I'm like , well , I am , but just

8:58

because it hurts my tummy . It was no other reason than that

9:01

. And they explain

9:03

it as artifacts . The changes could be an artifact

9:05

in the MRI , but she's like yeah , you don't have as many lesions

9:07

as you had before . And the one on my optic

9:10

nerve which was causing blindness , it's still

9:12

there , but it's not an active lesion , it's

9:14

just more of a scar . But the lesions

9:16

I had , all in the back of my brain , my spine , they

9:18

weren't showing up and

9:20

I have been symptom free since

9:23

, uh , 2015,

9:25

. Uh , no numbness

9:27

in the legs , no vision loss Actually , my vision

9:29

is better in this eye now than the other eye and

9:32

I just stopped going and I went to get life insurance

9:34

policy and I named the neurologist

9:36

and it'd been so long I didn't have any records

9:38

even anymore . Just they couldn't even find me . So

9:41

I don't even write down multiple sclerosis anywhere

9:43

because you can't find

9:45

it . I wonder . I've always kind of wondered , though , with

9:47

a with a spinal tap . Could they find it again

9:49

? Uh , but I

9:51

don't need to know because

9:54

my lifestyle is the

9:56

epitome of health . Like I don't need

9:58

to find that out .

10:00

Um , yeah , wow

10:03

, that is amazing . So

10:05

let me ask you this Now

10:08

that , because you're saying you're the

10:10

epitome of health , what are some

10:12

of the things that you are

10:14

doing that you didn't

10:17

do prior to your diagnosis

10:19

?

10:21

This is the question I probably get asked the most , and this is what

10:23

I tell people . It's not in a cold water shower

10:25

and all those things are great . I laid in bed

10:27

and I imagined Mario

10:30

brother , the Mario brother , the guy with the

10:32

paint can like back back in my day . It was

10:34

Donkey Kong . So the Donkey

10:36

Kong guy , when I laid in bed every

10:38

night , was painting my Milan sheath with paint

10:40

. And I did it every night before I

10:42

went to sleep and every morning when I woke up , before

10:45

I came to a complete conscious state of awareness

10:47

. And I use my imagination

10:49

. This is before I knew anything about mindfulness . This is

10:51

before internet , this is before

10:54

dispenser , this is just before anything

10:56

. I would just lay there and

10:58

I asked myself this question if I can create

11:00

disease , why can't I create wellness , why

11:02

can't I make myself better ? And I challenged myself

11:04

that question . So it wasn't

11:07

this the gluten and the exercise

11:09

and yoga , all that's fantastic and

11:11

I agree with all of it . But what I really

11:13

did was use my imagination on the cellular

11:15

level to start imagining what optimal

11:17

wellness looked like for me , based on what the medical

11:20

community said needed to happen . So

11:23

, like what do you need ? Like , ask physician , like what

11:25

do you need ? I asked physician like what do you need ? Optimal outcome Well

11:27

, if your myelin was to repair , all right , gotcha , that's

11:36

what I'm going to go do . Wow , that's the secret sauce . All of it's fantastic

11:38

, the yoga , all that's great . But your imagination can create wellness .

11:40

So people are going to listen to this and say

11:42

are you telling me that I can cure myself

11:44

?

11:47

as a PhD , I'm very mindful of the word cured

11:49

because I really leave that to the

11:51

MDs . But what I

11:53

can say is I've worked with hundreds

11:55

of pediatrics , hundreds of adults , and

11:58

I have numerous accounts of physicians

12:00

saying your remission , you are healed

12:02

, your GI tract looks better , your

12:04

inflammatory markers are down . I don't

12:06

use the cured word . I've only

12:08

heard one physician use it in all my patients

12:11

, so I'm very mindful about that word

12:13

. But can you achieve excellent

12:16

, almost optimal , optimal wellness , unequivocally

12:19

, a billion percent ? Every fiber of my being

12:21

knows that's possible . I've done

12:23

it . I see it every day

12:25

at work . There's , there

12:28

was someone that was on a

12:30

stomach transplant list . She almost died . She's

12:33

now a mother and a wife

12:35

. She died seven times

12:37

from sepsis , from GI disorders . She

12:40

did exactly what I taught her and she's a mother and a wife

12:42

right now , totally cured and healed

12:44

. That's the one they call cured .

12:47

I don't even know what to say . Dr

12:53

Scarlett

12:56

, you're giving me shivers down

12:58

my spine . It's

13:00

very powerful what you're saying , but

13:04

my mind is definitely blown . So

13:07

with that I could

13:09

see where the mind-body

13:12

being a mind-body psychotherapist

13:14

kind of comes in . And I

13:16

know that we talk about that and

13:18

that's kind of like the buzzword right Mind

13:20

and body connection . Everyone's talking about

13:22

it . I talk about it , but from

13:25

your perspective , based on what

13:27

you do , what does

13:29

the mind and body connection really

13:32

mean to you and

13:34

the work that you do ?

13:35

That's my favorite question . The

13:40

one main element that connects the mind

13:42

to the body are emotions . Emotions

13:45

are the glue that connect the

13:47

mind to the body . We

13:50

have roughly 60,000 thoughts

13:52

a day . Women have roughly

13:54

25 trillion cells For

13:57

every thought that we have 60,000

14:00

thoughts . Odds are some

14:02

of the autoimmune or GI or anxiety or depression

14:04

has up to 30,000 negative

14:06

thoughts a day . Literally 30,000 negative

14:08

thoughts a day . Literally Every

14:11

one of those negative thoughts and

14:14

automatic negative thoughts releases a cortisol

14:16

or a stress response hormones

14:18

, neurotransmitters

14:25

, neurochemicals , peptides to the 25 , 27 trillion

14:27

cells . That creates inflammation and disease in the cell . Over time . The dis-ease creates

14:29

disease . So the one thing , if

14:31

you were to narrow everything down is

14:33

the glue that

14:35

binds the mind to the body are emotions

14:37

.

14:38

That comes to mind our conversation

14:40

when we first met . I mean , you

14:43

blew my mind in that conversation

14:46

because I said to you that

14:48

I totally believe in the mind-body

14:51

connection and I

14:53

was talking about my own personal

14:56

experience having

14:58

gastroparesis , going through a horrible , terrible

15:00

divorce , being in a horrific

15:03

relationship , and I was explaining

15:05

that to you and you said

15:08

that's

15:10

a frozen response . Yeah

15:12

, and explain a little bit about

15:15

what that is . What's the frozen response

15:17

?

15:18

All right . So we have the thoughts

15:21

. Those thoughts create a limbic response

15:23

. It's either fight , flight or frozen

15:26

. We're all familiar with that . But what's

15:28

really not recognized is anything

15:30

below the diaphragm , like a gastroparesis

15:33

or Crohn's or bloating or

15:35

gas , not diarrhea , but those

15:37

things is a frozen response . A

15:39

frozen response happens after a prolonged

15:42

fight or flight . The brain

15:44

can no longer take . You're in

15:46

the war zone for so long . It actually

15:49

goes to complete immobilization and frozen

15:51

, which also freezes up the

15:53

biologics . So your default

15:55

has now gone to a frozen response . Excessive

15:58

fatigue , don't

16:00

want to get out of bed , bloating

16:03

gas those are all indications

16:06

of a frozen response . And this is

16:08

something else . An extreme case of it is

16:10

psychogenic seizures , when people

16:12

pass out or syncope and

16:14

there's no medical reason . That is an extreme

16:17

response of frozen . Celine Dion

16:19

stiff person syndrome , frozen

16:21

response . Wow

16:24

, your symptoms tell me what

16:26

your solution is , what limbic response you're in

16:28

.

16:29

Oh my God . So you said that

16:31

to me and I'm like how does she know ? So

16:33

how does she know

16:35

? Like , honestly , I was

16:38

like you literally woke

16:40

me up . I was like how did she know that ? That

16:42

was spot on . And then I

16:44

was mentioning about . You

16:47

know , I have some friends who were diagnosed with

16:49

lupus and you mentioned

16:51

Fight response .

16:54

Yeah , yeah , so that's a prolonged fight

16:56

response and usually autoimmune vacillates

16:59

between all three but their primary

17:01

is fight and I talk about this

17:03

actually in other , actually in my

17:05

podcast . I talk about this it's chronic invalidation

17:07

. Chronic invalidation

17:09

, where you're chronically invalidated , whether by a partner

17:12

, a parent or a medical

17:14

or even social media , can

17:16

cause stuffed anger , stuffed

17:19

rage . So many times I work with

17:21

people of autoimmune . There's a lot of chronic invalidation

17:24

, either through childhood or poor attachment

17:26

style in childhood or a partner and

17:28

this unresolved fight response , this inability

17:31

to use the voice but wanting to use the voice

17:33

and stuffing and stuffing and stuffing

17:35

and when any this is kind

17:38

of a really fascinating when

17:40

we stuff our emotions , we

17:42

do will form a self abandonment . We

17:45

don't use our voice and

17:47

we don't use our voice , we abandon ourselves . We get

17:49

further from our truth . We don't use our voice , we abandon ourselves . We get further from our truth . We

17:51

get further from our truth . We start building

17:53

up resentment for the person that we can't tell our

17:55

truth to and our own resentment . I call

17:57

it a double scoop of resentment that's

18:00

all turned into self-loathing and anger

18:02

. And the more we self-abandon , the more we feel

18:04

resentment . The more unexpressed anger

18:06

, the less we use our voice . Wow

18:09

, make sense .

18:11

Yeah yeah . That's just amazing

18:13

. As you were explaining

18:15

that , I thought to myself when

18:18

you well , let me ask you this when you

18:20

are seeing your clients

18:22

, when they start talking

18:24

about their

18:27

history and they start working on that

18:29

, how soon after do they start

18:31

noticing a shift on

18:33

feeling better ?

18:36

That's a great question . One of

18:38

three things have to happen either

18:40

one or all three . They recognize how

18:42

much their thoughts are creating their disease . They

18:45

recognize the attachment style whether it be a

18:47

toxic , unhealthy partner

18:49

or a parent is impacting their disease

18:52

. Because stress is contagious . Cortisol

18:54

goes up 40% by people who

18:56

have anxiety or wait

18:59

. I said stress , attachment , thoughts

19:01

, emotions , attachment

19:04

style and secondary gains is the third one . So

19:07

thoughts and emotions go in a category , attachment

19:09

style is another category and then secondary

19:12

gains . I

19:14

will speak for myself . I definitely

19:17

subconsciously had

19:19

a secondary gain the entire time I was sick

19:21

. It wasn't until I was done

19:23

with the secondary gain , this

19:25

need to feel important , this need to feel nurtured . I

19:28

was gaining something from being sick

19:30

. But on the deep subconscious level I'm not

19:32

thinking , oh , I want to get my mommy's love . It's

19:34

not at all . You don't realize you're

19:36

doing it . Once people realize

19:38

, it's one of those three things , if not all three

19:40

instant , instant

19:43

, instant . Wow

19:47

Okay that's

20:00

the power of the mind . It's unbelievable

20:03

.

20:03

Yeah , yes , unbelievable

20:06

. Um , my gosh

20:08

. I normally am not specialist , but

20:10

with you I am . Um , you

20:15

know what it is it's like , cause

20:17

I believe , I believe everything you're saying

20:19

because I lived it and

20:22

, um , you know when

20:24

I , when I am not in

20:26

, just to be very , uh

20:28

, vulnerable here and and transparent

20:30

, I should say being transparent

20:33

here , when I am a in

20:35

a toxic relationship

20:37

. I mean that , if that's not a great example

20:39

, okay . When anybody's in a toxic

20:42

relationship toxic job

20:44

you don't feel

20:46

good , your stomach is

20:48

tight , you don't sleep , you

20:51

feel sick . It is overwhelming

20:55

how bad you feel , all

20:57

the negativity that you feel . And

20:59

then the moment , literally the

21:01

moment you leave , feel

21:06

. And then the moment , literally the moment you leave , I mean

21:08

the moment , it's like you will

21:11

step out the door .

21:11

It's like it's gone . Yep Experienced that a couple of times

21:14

too .

21:15

It's amazing . So I mean I I'm

21:18

listening to you but I never

21:20

thought of it in that

21:22

realm , thinking of disease

21:25

in that realm , because it does

21:27

manifest . I mean , like I

21:29

said , I talk about having

21:31

that stomach issue that

21:33

manifests it , and it was a slow

21:35

manifest and I could tell you

21:37

the months that

21:39

it started becoming

21:42

to that point where I couldn't eat

21:44

anymore and then

21:46

, like I said , the moment it ended it

21:49

was just like what the

21:51

heck ? I think for some people

21:53

it's very hard to understand

21:55

that concept . But I want to ask

21:57

you this , because

22:00

you know we are seeing

22:02

a lot , a lot

22:04

of autoimmune diseases

22:06

. Like you know , it's

22:08

almost like wait a minute why

22:11

, all of a sudden , people are getting like

22:13

the stomach issues , not

22:16

being able to eat foods and all that

22:18

. I mean what

22:20

happened 10 years ago ? Why is

22:22

there such a increase

22:24

in these types of diseases

22:26

? What are your thoughts on that ?

22:29

Well , it's 80 million people have autoimmune

22:31

more than cancer , heart disease and diabetes

22:33

combined , and I think it's something

22:36

like over 80% females . Yeah

22:39

, wow , I know that's

22:42

actually a huge deal . I

22:44

leave that answer to the researchers . I really like

22:46

to stay in my lane . But COVID

22:48

had a really big part of it Seed

22:51

oils , toxins , metals , all

22:53

the environment . What we do

22:55

know is autoimmune

22:57

runs in my family and certain environments

23:00

can trigger it to happen . So what

23:02

we do know is that even if you have the environment

23:04

, heavy metals , toxins , covid , seed

23:08

oils all these things are linked to inflammation

23:10

. Now , but we do know that even

23:12

if your DNA , your

23:14

messenger RNA , gets expressed to express the disease

23:17

, you can actually unexpress it . So

23:20

what's causing it ? I

23:22

don't know . I've just

23:24

written in my book like back in my generation we didn't

23:26

have that . You're right Cause back in my generation we didn't

23:29

have that . But I also

23:31

knew . You know , when

23:33

the streetlights went on , you

23:35

went home . There wasn't 24

23:38

, seven media stress , response

23:40

, news outlets , constant

23:42

, chronic invalidation . Whether

23:46

you know you don't get liked on the social media , you feel a

23:48

sense of invalidation . This plethora of toxic

23:50

, abusive relationships out there . It's

23:53

just rather remarkable , almost epidemic

23:55

and parental attachment styles

23:58

. You grow up with an avoidant

24:00

, dismissive parent , parent and the pendulum swings

24:02

. You become this over helicopter parent

24:04

and that creates anxiety in the

24:07

child . So there's so many factors

24:09

. I do believe in environmental , but I also

24:11

believe that we are living in a day and age

24:14

when stress doesn't ever

24:16

leave us because our phone is right next to us . And

24:18

I always ask people , if you were a

24:20

patient who's in the chronic victim mode , if

24:23

I was to take you and put you in Papua New Guinea and

24:26

you had to go get your own food and water and build

24:28

, would you be sick ? Nope , I wouldn't be sick . Okay

24:31

, just puck you from the environment , yeah , but I don't want

24:33

to . I'm like all right .

24:38

Okay on this . When I was asking

24:40

you , when you see

24:42

the clients

24:44

, what does it look

24:47

like to work with you

24:49

? So you know you bring

24:51

in this person , I'm going

24:53

to have to say that this individual

24:56

has to be very open-minded , because

24:59

you're going to be talking about things

25:01

that they might not accept as a problem

25:04

. You're talking about attachment with

25:07

parents , talking about some trauma

25:10

that they have been stuffing for years

25:12

. What are

25:14

some of the things that you do at first

25:17

, or what does it look like to work with

25:19

you ?

25:21

I appreciate your question so much because

25:24

that , on so many levels , is so spot

25:26

on . Parents come

25:28

to me desperate , desperate

25:30

. Adults come to me , desperate , and

25:33

the first two questions I ask is do you want

25:35

to heal ? And people

25:37

think , oh , of course I want to heal , but actually not

25:39

really . And

25:41

do you believe you can heal ? And

25:45

when I asked , do you want to heal , I

25:47

wait to hear doubt . I wait to hear what automatic

25:49

negative thoughts they're going to have . I wait to hear what excuses

25:51

they're going to have . I wait for the parent to chime in

25:53

and interrupt and say why the kid can't heal . I

25:56

have my entire treatment plan answered

25:58

. Those two questions Tells

26:01

me everything I need to know in those two questions

26:03

. And do you believe you can heal ? Uh , no

26:05

, I don't , but I trust you . All right , cool

26:07

, I got that . Just give me one thread . Give me one

26:09

thread and I'll walk you . I'll walk you across the

26:11

bridge . Um , so what

26:13

it looks like is no , I'm very gentle , I

26:15

don't jump right in Like you're just functional

26:17

Tetris style . No , I roll

26:19

into it . I , the main thing is I want to

26:21

build a bond and I'm rather

26:23

self-deprecating , not in a self-loathing

26:25

way . I'm so in love with myself , finally , after

26:27

51 years . It took forever to get here

26:29

, but I'm just so comfortable being flawed

26:32

and it's

26:34

just being the authentically flawed that I am . Hey , this

26:36

is why I did this group as a parent . I screwed up this , I screwed

26:38

up this . My kid has an autoimmune disease too , which

26:42

she's better now . She was in a walk , had

26:44

a walker for a long time , but that's

26:47

how all this really came to be . So

26:49

, first of all , it's just really this genuine . Let's

26:51

just chill , let's just vibe , like , do we vibe

26:53

? Do we get along ? Do

27:00

I get the tingles ? When I talk to you , can you resonate on the same wavelength where I feel this

27:02

? Be quite frank with you all this divine feeling I get inside

27:04

and I just I know I got

27:06

it , I got it , I got it . Whether they've

27:08

got it or not , I've got it . Then

27:11

, once the rapport is built , we get into things

27:13

that are , hey , your 30,000

27:15

thoughts . You hate yourself not really helping

27:17

.

27:21

Oh my gosh . Okay . So I

27:23

asked you that question because

27:27

when you were talking about you

27:29

know , does

27:32

someone ? Well , going back

27:34

to what you said , when you said , you had that

27:36

point where you're like I'm done , I'm not

27:38

going to get sick anymore . I got to figure

27:40

this out . And that's

27:43

not just I

27:46

can't even , I don't even know how to explain it , because I

27:48

felt that it's this force , it's

27:51

the get out of my goddamn

27:53

way . I am getting like

27:55

you are like nope , nope

27:58

. I got to figure , I'm going to figure this out . And

28:00

that's exactly how I was . I was like

28:02

no , like I was determined

28:04

. There was no doubt in my mind

28:06

. I was like a force to be reckoned

28:09

with . So it's not just like , oh

28:11

, I'm just sick and tired of this , but

28:14

God , but I don't want to really do that

28:16

. You have to get to

28:18

that point where you're just like I

28:21

need to get this , I'll do anything

28:24

to get this .

28:27

That's it . That's

28:29

it . It's this determination , this

28:31

internal drive , just

28:35

to reach that point where , like , who

28:39

else is going to do it ? No

28:41

one's going to do it for you , and

28:44

I waited for many , many years

28:47

for some doctor , a partner

28:49

, a family member , someone not

28:52

going to happen . There's no answers .

28:55

Yeah .

28:56

Yeah , I a hundred percent agree with you , it is , and

28:58

you know when you know , when you know , know

29:00

when you know

29:02

.

29:02

Yeah , it's crazy because

29:04

it's like I never it's so hard

29:07

to like . I said it's

29:16

that determination , but , as I'm even telling you , my imagination is going

29:18

to like me , like rushing opening doors and just like I'm going to get

29:20

to the bottom of this . But

29:22

let's talk about your podcast

29:25

, because you also have a podcast . And

29:27

what's the name of the podcast

29:29

? What is it about ? What type of ? I mean , do

29:31

you have guests ? What type of guests will be

29:34

coming on to the podcast ?

29:35

Yeah , so I just started , I think I'm . I

29:37

got like five recorded and

29:40

it's called Heal your Mind , heal your Body . And

29:42

I did it because working 12 hour days

29:44

I love it I mean , I really do love my job but

29:47

I can't get the knowledge out there . I

29:50

feel like I just get in a dead end like every hour

29:52

and everyone's like everyone's lives are changing

29:54

. So I started the podcast to just disseminate

29:57

this . Really , these are

29:59

areas of the mind-body connection that no one's talking

30:01

about . That really is what matter

30:03

. Naturopath love

30:05

it . I

30:08

like to work in conjunction with naturopaths and medical doctors , but no one's talking about emotions

30:11

and attachment and chronic invalidation and secondary gains

30:13

and identification , all these

30:15

things . So it's heal your mind , heal your body

30:17

. Right now I'm just talking about laying

30:19

the groundwork of what are the components

30:22

in my arena that make up the mind body connection

30:24

. Uh , but I always like tell

30:26

people it's in conjunction with medical and naturopathic

30:29

. That's when it works the best . Um

30:31

, so , yeah , I'll have guests . I'll

30:33

have the physicians on who've seen the miracle patient

30:35

. I'll have a couple of them on . I'll have my

30:37

patients that have healed

30:39

and been cured , also by some of the physicians

30:41

A woman who's had mast cell activation

30:44

, which every time she ate food , she became anaphylactic

30:46

and had to go to the ER and stab herself in EpiPen

30:48

eat whatever she wants . Now Someone's

30:51

been vomited for two or three months straight . After

30:54

, I think , the third session she was done vomiting

30:56

. Yeah , lots of patients

30:58

on that will tell their stories and I really

31:00

applaud them because it takes a huge level

31:02

of vulnerability to come out and tell the world . Wow

31:05

. Okay , but that's how strongly they feel

31:07

about recognizing one

31:10

woman . She's going to come on and she has chronic

31:12

IBS . But IBS was from a life or death

31:14

trauma situation , a

31:17

car accident , and once she realized

31:19

her secondary gain , gone

31:22

. Wow , IBS gone .

31:24

What's the name of the podcast ?

31:26

Heal your Mind , Heal your Body .

31:28

Okay .

31:29

With Dr Schuyler .

31:30

Okay , and we can hear that everywhere

31:32

Any podcast

31:35

platform that people listen to their

31:37

podcast . Dr

31:39

Schuyler , what's coming

31:42

up for you in

31:44

the couple of months besides the podcast ? Any

31:47

new courses , new webinars

31:49

, any talks ? What's going on with you

31:51

?

31:51

I do have a book coming out . I'm

31:54

excited about this . It's

31:57

Empower your Child to Heal . But

32:00

my developing editor , David Jars , is my

32:02

right-hand human . It's

32:05

actually going to be two books because it's

32:07

not just about empowering your child . We're actually developing

32:09

a second book simultaneously and

32:11

empowering yourself to heal . So

32:14

that's going to roll out at the end of the year hopefully

32:16

both of them and it talks about

32:18

the eight ways for anxiety , Eight

32:21

ways that makes you the mind-body connection , the attachment

32:23

style , chronic invalidation , the things I've talked

32:25

about . So that's coming out the end

32:27

of the year . I do

32:29

have , if you go to drskylernet

32:32

you can click for newsletters and

32:34

every month I am doing free

32:36

tidbits , information , sneak peeks

32:38

in the book and things I don't talk about on

32:40

the podcast . That

32:42

are just tidbits , information like hey

32:44

, I learned this the hard way or this really helps

32:47

. So yeah

32:49

, drskylernet . And then the book

32:51

Empower your Child and Yourself to Heal

32:53

. I can't believe two books came out at once , but it was

32:55

so much knowledge , it

32:58

just kind of rolled out that way .

33:00

That's amazing . Well , I'm definitely invested

33:03

in that . And where can people

33:05

find you on social media ?

33:08

I just started Instagram

33:11

, it's Dr Skylar , and then , I think , two underscores

33:14

. And then on TikTok , I'm Dr Skylar

33:16

. I've been on that for a little bit . Linkedin

33:18

too , dr Skylar Hamilton . I

33:22

think that I'm not on Facebook yet

33:24

, but I have a media company setting me up for that

33:26

.

33:27

Oh , perfect , and if

33:29

you want to get a hold of or connect

33:32

with Dr Skylar , we're

33:39

going to put all her links on the Schuyler

33:41

. Again

33:44

, I'm so overwhelmed

33:46

by the goodness that

33:48

you are providing on

33:51

this episode and I'm

33:54

speechless because it's just such

33:56

good stuff that

33:58

you are doing , that you're doing good

34:01

work . I'm so

34:04

fortunate to have you on here on

34:06

the podcast the listeners

34:08

just an amazing

34:10

individual that you are and you're definitely

34:13

doing the good work . So thank you so much for

34:15

being a part of this .

34:16

Thank you so much for actually saying those words

34:19

and for having me Seriously

34:21

thank you .

34:22

You're welcome and until next time

34:24

. Everyone , Bye .

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