Our second segment in our “Systems in Transition” series tackles the How of how we transition our systems. The feature interview is with Chad Park, the Chief Innovation Officer of the Natural Step Canada and Director of the Energy Futures Lab. Chad and his team have gathered a group of 40 “Fellows” that are working through a multi-year process to drive transformational change in Alberta’s energy system. Chad focuses on the theory of systems change to highlight the mechanisms through which we actually change the systems we are apart of. Our second interview is with Chris Nelder, an iconic figure in the sustainability industry, the Electricity Manager for REI and host of “The Transition Show” podcast series. Chris talks us through the transformational changes that have already happen in our energy system and the transition we’re living through today.