EngagingChurch is the twice-per-month podcast where we engage in the conversations that matter to the church. If you’re a pastor, lay leader or small group member, this is a resource for you to continue the conversation in your ministry and community. Share your comments at zondervanblog.com, or email [email protected]. EngagingChurch is powered by Zondervan, but the views expressed in the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of Zondervan.