Jan Shegda is a guide for EPP. She is also quite involved with the project behind the scenes administratively in a variety of spaces. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Jan for a conversation about baby animals, MBTI, a

Episode 33: Becky

Dec 5th, 2023 1h 7m

Becky is a community builder for EPP. She's also married to one of our in-custody participants. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey and EPP Guide Laura Hooper sit down with Becky for a conversation about hope, love, and building a rela

Episode 32: Cynthia Riha

Nov 7th, 2023 1h 32m

Cynthia Riha is a Guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Cynthia for a conversation about community, heart, and being real.Special thanks to EPP Guide Laura Hooper for joining us once agai

Episode 31: Troy Phillips

Sep 5th, 2023 1h 43m

Troy Phillips is an Ambassador for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Troy for a conversation about freedom, responding, and the gift of presence. Also in this episode, we pause at 45:51

Episode 30: Ahshua Bolton

Aug 1st, 2023 1h 28m

Ahshua Bolton is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits with down Ahshua for a conversation about the prisons of our own making, doing the work together, and more.Also in this episode, we pause at

Episode 29: Stella Strazdas

Jul 4th, 2023 1h 20m

Stella Strazdas is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Stella for a conversation about first impressions, apprenticing, and dancing with one another in equality.Special thanks to EPP

Episode 28: Clay Tumey

Jun 6th, 2023 1h 22m

Clay Tumey is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Founder Susan Olesek and EPP Executive Director Rick Olesek sit down with Clay for a chat about May 21, 2007—the day the good began.Also in this episode, we pau

Episode 27: Sue Lambert

May 2nd, 2023 1h 28m

Sue Lambert is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project. She is also a guide and on the faculty for EPP. In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Sue for a chat about getting out of jail, going back to prison, an

Episode 26: Happy Anniversary!

Apr 12th, 2023 2h 31m

Susan Olesek is the Founder of Enneagram Prison Project. Rick Olesek is the Executive Director of EPP. They are partners both in life and in the project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Rick & Susan to celebrate and

Episode 25: First Time In

Apr 6th, 2023 44m 28s

Susanne Gawreluk is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project, and her husband, Mike, has a background in telecommunications network engineering. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Mike & Susanne for a conversation about grad

Episode 24: Answering the Call

Mar 22nd, 2023 1h 3m

Laura Hooper is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project. She is also a program manager (and much more) for the project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Laura for a conversation about stress, programming on the inside, a

Episode 23: The Work that Never Ends

Mar 7th, 2023 2h 13m

Dustin Baldwin is an Ambassador for Enneagram Prison Project, and Dana Vitorelo is an EPP Guide. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Dustin & Dana for a conversation about going back to prison, mail call, and their recent

Episode 22: Ripple Effect

Feb 22nd, 2023 1h 15m

Alex Senegal is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project. He is also a member of the board for EPP. In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Alex for a chat about learning the Enneagram on the inside, representin

Episode 21: Guide Training Program | Part 2

Feb 7th, 2023 1h 45m

Continuing our discussion about EPP's Guide Training Program (GTP) in this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey chats with Djinnaya, who recently completed GTP and has moved on to be an apprentice. In this episode, Djinnaya shares with us in det

Episode 20: Guide Training Program

Dec 6th, 2022 2h 19m

EPP Guides are constantly growing, conscious individuals who have journeyed their own inner terrain with enough depth and skill to offer their wisdom, experience, and steady presence to others who are navigating their own journeys.The Guide Tra

Episode 19: Sweetly Stubborn

Nov 1st, 2022 2h 16m

Sherrie Lee is a self-described newbie in the Enneagram world. She’s also Mom to EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey. In this episode, Sherrie and Clay sit down for a chat about character assessments, prison chats, and new perspectives.Special thanks

Episode 18: Making the Decision

Oct 4th, 2022 1h

In this episode, we go back in time to October 2015 for a conversation with EPP Founder Susan Olesek and EPP Ambassadors Victor Soto and Clay Tumey about opening up on the inside, being willing to look at a new way, and making the decision to t

Episode 17: Around the Campfire

Sep 15th, 2022 43m 50s

In this episode, we hear from a variety of campers—ambassadors, faculty, guides, and more—at the inaugural EPP Camping Trip, which happened in Northern California just outside of Yosemite National Park the last weekend of August 2022.Good food,

Episode 16: RJ Donovan

Jul 4th, 2022 1h 31m

In this episode, three EPP Guides (Halida Hatic, Scott Tavenner and Jan Shegda) share their experiences from a recent trip to a San Diego prison where Enneagram Prison Project held a weeklong intensive with 60+ residents across three classes.Fo

Episode 15: That's a wrap!

May 12th, 2022 30m

Clay Tumey wraps up the first season of the EPP Podcast with clips and commentary.For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.

Episode 14: THE Enneagram Prison Project (10 Year Anniversary Episode)

Apr 12th, 2022 3h 26m

Episode 13: The Mountain Doesn’t Care

Mar 12th, 2022 1h 10m

Eric McCluskey is a longtime friend of Enneagram Prison Project and is also a member of the Board. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey returns to the Bay Area for a conversation with Eric that spans everything from the scaling of EPP to

Episode 12: Not a Supposed-to-be-agram

Feb 12th, 2022 1h 26m

Laura Hooper is a Program Manager and Guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with Laura to discuss topics including the importance of not “othering” the

Episode 11: Alone Together

Jan 12th, 2022 1h

Tara Meehan is a long-time supporter of Enneagram Prison Project and also a member of our board. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with Tara to discuss everything from life as Type Se

Episode 10: Outside My Realm of Comfort

Dec 12th, 2021 56m 51s

Lance White is a board member for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits New Mexico and sits down for a conversation with Lance to discuss everything from business ownership to what it’s like having a child