In this episode we talk Hugo-winning Every Heart a Doorway by Seanan McGuire, wicked high-nonsense, Underworlds, terrible parents, mountains in the basement, and Liz wants to know: is Doctor Bleak hot?

Here's a link to the wicked-moral/nonsense-logical chart: https://i2.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/worlds_grid_v03.8_01main.png?w=960&type=vertical&ssl=1