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Tuesday, 27th September 2022
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0:01

I'd front next Ukraine making gains on the

0:03

front lines as Putin faces fury

0:06

from his own people. A rush and opening

0:08

fire on a commander, another throwing molotov

0:10

cocktails in a recruiting station, lines

0:12

to leave Russia growing even longer

0:15

tonight, plus exclusive. One

0:17

of the Americans just freed after being held

0:19

by Russian backed forces in Ukraine. In

0:22

his first television interview, along with his

0:24

fiancee, right here tonight out front.

0:26

And just minutes from now, and now a spacecraft crashing

0:28

into an asteroid. You're going to see it here

0:30

live. Let's go out front.

0:34

And good evening. I'm Aaron Burnett. OUTFRONT

0:36

TONIGHT UP IN FLAMES. UCCRAINE TAKING

0:38

OUT CRUCIAL RUSSIAN ARTILARY AS

0:40

IT PUSHES RUSSIAN FORCES FURTHER BACK

0:43

INTO RETREET. This is new video

0:45

from Ukraine's military. The aerosol

0:47

taking out five Russian vehicles, including

0:49

a tank. And we are also getting graphic new

0:51

video of Ukraine's counteroffensive. We

0:53

are told that this video that we're showing

0:55

you now is from eastern Ukraine.

0:58

You can see the road here absolutely

1:00

littered with burnt out tanks. AND

1:02

BODIES OF WHAT APPEAR TO BE Russian

1:05

SOLDIERS. UKRAIN'S PUNISHING

1:07

PUSHBACK COSTING PUTIN AT HOME POSSIBLE

1:10

THREATENING THE ONE THING HE CARES ABOUT MOST

1:12

his power. The outrage over his

1:14

decision to summon at least at least

1:16

three hundred thousand more troops to fight

1:19

is now turning to violence inside

1:21

Russia. Let me show you this video. This

1:23

is from the Vogo GRAD Region, showing

1:25

a man backing his car up against the front

1:27

doors of a mobilization center.

1:29

Then you see him get out and throw what appears

1:31

to be molotov cocktails at the building,

1:34

burning it down. And in Siberia,

1:36

a Russian man opening fire at a military

1:38

recruiting station injuring a commander.

1:41

These are clear indications that some citizens

1:43

in Russia are turning on Putin.

1:46

They don't want to fight this war. OVER

1:48

THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS, WE HAVE SEEN MORE AND MORE VIDEO

1:50

OF PROTESTS ACTUALLY EVEN TURNING VIOLENT

1:52

ACROSS RUSSIA. AND ON THE RUSSIAN BORDERS

1:54

AN UNPRECEDENTED SITE, mass

1:57

exodus. The lines of traffic are

1:59

so long. This

1:59

is satellite image you're looking at right now.

2:02

Satellite image. Look at that line of traffic sneaking

2:04

across your screen. Russians are lined

2:06

up in this image for nearly ten

2:08

miles. Ten miles waiting

2:11

to enter Georgia. And once they

2:13

actually get to the border,

2:15

Look what happens? Look at that. Sea

2:17

of young men, men, almost

2:19

all of them. Every single one lined

2:21

up waiting to

2:22

escape Putin's Russia.

2:23

According to the State Department, they

2:26

say it's assigned Putin's in trouble.

2:29

These actions from president Putin

2:31

signaled very signaled very clearly. that

2:33

he knows he is losing. He's on his

2:35

back heels. And he's making every attempt

2:37

to intimidate those who would stand up to

2:39

him.

2:40

he's saying on his back heels regarding

2:43

Putin, but that, of course, could also make the Russian

2:45

president incredibly dangerous. The secretary

2:47

of state, Anthony Blinken, says there may be no

2:49

one in Russia show right now who was willing

2:51

to stand up to Putin and say

2:53

no, tell him not to use nuclear

2:56

weapons. And Ukraine's president,

2:58

says that Putin may be closer than

3:00

ever to ordering a nuclear strike.

3:03

Maybe yesterday it

3:05

was bluff. NOW IT COULD

3:07

BE A REALITY. I

3:10

DON'T THINK HE'S BLOUGHING.

3:11

Reporter:

3:12

Ben WIDeman BEGINS OUR COVERAGE TONIGHT

3:14

OUTFRONT LIVE IN CAUCRAINE Ben

3:17

Putin's war taking a dramatic turn at

3:19

home. Those images are unforgettable. Those lines

3:21

of people rushing to escape the violence at

3:23

home. He's now trying to control more Ukrainian

3:26

territory where you are through sham referendums

3:28

that I understand will be finished as

3:30

much as one can use that word, quote unquote, in

3:33

mere hours.

3:35

Yeah. They'll be finished tomorrow. There

3:38

will be in person voting, but

3:40

the outcome is a foregone conclusion.

3:43

This is a sham referendum and

3:46

the result will be a sham as well.

3:48

but it will result in the Russians

3:50

declaring that this territory is

3:53

officially part of the motherland, part

3:55

of Russia. But what

3:57

we're seeing is that the Ukrainians are

3:59

continuing to gain more

4:01

territory, for instance, in the Donetsk

4:03

region, where the Russians in

4:06

their the Russian controlled parts of

4:08

Dunlietz are conducting

4:10

this referendum, Ukrainians are

4:12

taking more ground. And then here in the HUD a

4:15

key region. Today, we were

4:17

in a town that was just taken on

4:19

Saturday evening. There's

4:21

still many Russian

4:23

soldiers dead in the

4:25

street in that town, lots

4:27

of armor as well. And

4:29

while we were there, we were there for about an hour

4:31

and a half all we heard

4:34

was outgoing fire from

4:36

Ukrainian artillery. The

4:38

commanders there told us that

4:40

the Russians they had captured were completely

4:42

demoralized. They complained

4:45

of poor equipment, poor

4:47

food, poor command

4:49

and control, poor logistics.

4:52

And the Russians have already been

4:54

pushed back from that town about

4:57

fifteen kilometers of ten miles

4:59

or so. So the Ukrainians

5:01

continued to gain more

5:03

ground despite these sham referendum

5:06

that you're going on in other parts

5:08

of the country. Aaron? Alright.

5:09

Thank you very much, Ben. pretty

5:12

incredible to see, to go to a town, a place

5:14

like that, to see all the weapons left behind.

5:16

And as Ben reports,

5:17

ah

5:18

still dead Russians in the streets. I

5:21

wanna bring in Andres Soltetov, a Russian

5:23

investigative journalist who specializes in

5:25

Russia's intelligence services and

5:27

retired air force colonel Cedric

5:29

Layton. Thanks to both of you. So, Andre, you

5:31

know, you hear about that. It's just very sobering

5:33

and we cannot lose you

5:35

know, feeling here for the value of human life.

5:37

You know, soldiers still dead in the streets as

5:39

the Ukrainians are advancing. You

5:42

heard Ben talk about the demoralization. that

5:44

the Russian troops are reporting, and those are the

5:46

troops on the front lines. We saw those images

5:48

of protests and act of violence in

5:50

response to Putin's mobilization order

5:53

at home. But when I say at home

5:55

and I'll show you on the map, these

5:57

are happening far away from major cities

5:59

like Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Right? They're happening

6:01

in in much more provincial capitals. So,

6:03

Andre, does that mean anything?

6:05

Does that mean Putin is safe from true unrest

6:07

or a coup because we're not seeing this in

6:09

Moscow? Well,

6:11

it is a big problem for Volgibil

6:14

Putin because these regions tend

6:16

to be especially in the beginning of

6:18

the war. Why the enthusiastic about the

6:20

war. Dagestan is a

6:22

very hard place to leave. And

6:24

while the military was one

6:26

of the jobs are lots of mail

6:29

of of mail in this region. We're

6:32

willing to to take. And in

6:34

the beginning of the war, we were happy to go

6:36

to the war. But now they understood

6:38

that it's it's not just some sort

6:40

of adventure. And look

6:42

at this, women, they

6:44

are so angry because they

6:47

finally realized that while

6:49

they they are relatively

6:51

sound sorry. foggles could

6:53

be killed. And that is

6:55

why it's so dangerous because that gets down

6:58

while it's been down for

7:01

years, if not for decades, has a very

7:03

troubled place in in Russia, genius.

7:05

Lots of ThermoDox wear and lots of things.

7:07

Yes, absolutely. So, Colonel,

7:09

when you see the images that Ben had in that

7:11

town of the Russian military equipment, right?

7:13

This has happened throughout the war, but it

7:15

seems now and obviously I'm going

7:17

this off of pictures and reports, but it

7:19

seems that there's been even an increase in the Russian

7:21

military equipment that has been destroyed or

7:23

that the Ukrainians have success taken

7:25

from the battlefield. Today, a Russian tank

7:27

unit was wiped out in Eastern Ukraine, and these

7:29

are the images I'm showing right now. And

7:32

then we're also hearing about these reports

7:34

of poor antiquated rusty

7:36

equipment being given to Russian

7:38

soldiers both on the front and these mobilized

7:40

troops. We can't confirm this video

7:42

from a Ukrainian official independently, but

7:44

look at this rusty Kalishnikov that

7:46

they say is what's being handed out now to these

7:48

Russian conscripts and this mobilization. KARNA,

7:51

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE TRUE STATE OF RUSSIA'S

7:53

MILITARY EQUIPMENT?

7:54

IT'S PRETTY CLEAR Aaron THAT THE

7:57

RUSSIAN MILITARY EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE GIVING TO

7:59

FRONTLINE SOLDIERS

7:59

IS completely inadequate for the job.

8:02

And just from a pure logistical standpoint,

8:05

this is one of the worst equipped

8:07

armies that I've ever laid eyes on.

8:09

It is something that is really

8:12

incredible to behold when you see

8:14

a whole battalion going

8:16

through this whole platoon at the

8:18

lowest tactical level, really

8:20

not making it because the equipment that they were

8:22

given is completely useless.

8:24

And the Ukrainians are basically

8:27

making men's speed out of them because not

8:29

only do they have bad morale, but they can't

8:31

fight back. So, Andre,

8:33

you're talking about how you think what we're seeing in

8:35

the provinces could be a great threat. And I know you

8:37

believe the next two weeks in this war are

8:39

crucial. Edward Snowden,

8:41

everyone knows his name, the one who gained

8:43

notoriety for leaking information about

8:45

American surveillance programs today.

8:47

We find out today, right after years of

8:49

living there, he's now formally granted

8:51

Russian citizenship. It took

8:53

him two years to get it. It happened today

8:55

in the midst of all of this. Why

8:58

do you think that happened now? And

9:00

what happens in these next two weeks?

9:02

Well, it looks like the Kremlin is getting

9:04

very desperate with if

9:06

there's a narrative there, they are

9:08

getting and they want to change it. They

9:10

wanted to promote these image that

9:12

Russia is still a country

9:14

where you want

9:16

to live and even

9:18

go to live. And of course, it doesn't

9:21

work. We already have lots of

9:23

of my competitors talking

9:25

about and joking about

9:27

snow then. who should be

9:29

drafted into the Russian army and to to

9:31

the battlefield. So it backfired

9:33

immediately. And

9:33

and and and and and and in these

9:36

next two weeks, does is this how

9:38

crucial is this for Putin and his grasp on

9:40

power? Well, the

9:40

problem is that lots of people in

9:43

Russia now are expected that tomorrow

9:45

there might be some decision of

9:48

closing the borders after the referendum.

9:50

And that might provoke

9:53

big eyebrows just imagine all

9:55

these men standing in

9:57

this alliance and waiting to

9:59

cross border. And if somebody

10:01

would tell them that now there is no

10:03

way into Georgia or Kazakhstan, what

10:05

could happen? So lots of people

10:07

are just uncertain about the

10:09

future. But in two weeks, it would be

10:11

quite clear. Beach

10:15

and which size is is a region

10:17

because of course, this mobilization is

10:19

also a great intimidation tool. Nobody is

10:21

safe. At the same time, lots of

10:23

people are really, really angry. Alright.

10:25

Well, thank you very much, Andre. I appreciate

10:28

it. Colonel, please stay with me because our

10:30

next story here is something I know you know a

10:32

lot about. We are monitoring a live

10:34

situation right now. It's actually a major collision

10:36

in space. So let me tell you about it. This is a live image

10:38

on your screen. NASA is about to

10:40

intentionally crash a

10:42

spacecraft into an asteroid and they're gonna do it

10:44

right here on live television and literally we're

10:46

here in the last minute. The asteroid named

10:48

dimorphous you're looking out on your screen.

10:50

The spacecraft is NASA's double

10:52

asteroid redirection test

10:54

spacecraft. That's a lot, call

10:56

it dark. Now, dimorphos poses no threat

10:58

to earth tonight, but the goal for NASA is to

11:00

see if they can push the asteroid off

11:02

course. So it's something they could do in the future to

11:04

prevent earth from armageddon. It is the

11:06

first time NASA is attempting a test like

11:08

this. So let's go straight to Kristen

11:10

Fisher at Johns Hopkins Applied Physics

11:12

Lab. She's in Maryland where Mission Control

11:14

is. C Colonel Layton also is with me because

11:16

he's worked closely with NASA

11:18

on and has a good understanding here

11:20

of this situation. So Kristen, we've

11:22

got this live image on the screen. You're

11:24

there in the control room. This

11:26

is a first and unprecedented event.

11:28

Tell us what we're looking

11:29

at. Well, Erin,

11:33

we are now exactly two minutes and

11:35

fifty eight seconds to impact. And what you're

11:37

seeing right now on your screen is

11:39

all live images from a camera that is

11:41

mounted on the dart

11:43

spacecraft. And for an a mission, this

11:45

this complicated and consequential,

11:47

what's about to happen is actually quite

11:49

simple. NASA is going to take

11:51

this multimillion dollar spacecraft

11:53

and just slam it into an

11:55

asteroid, not the asteroid

11:58

biggest one right in front of you on your screen. That

12:00

big asteroid at the center of your

12:02

screen just to the left, that is ditimos.

12:04

That is what the dark spacecraft has

12:06

been targeting for the better part of ten

12:08

months while it's been in space.

12:11

Its target is that smaller

12:13

asteroid demorphous. And

12:15

so this spacecraft is

12:17

traveling at a speed of four

12:19

miles per second, not per

12:21

hour. Four miles per

12:23

second. That's about fourteen thousand miles

12:25

per hour. And, Erin, it is

12:27

going to, in two minutes,

12:29

slam into that smaller asteroid on

12:31

the right to more this. You're gonna watch

12:33

as it fills your screen. And

12:35

then when it hits, it's just gonna

12:37

go black. Complete loss of signal. One

12:39

of the only times that you're gonna see

12:41

a NASA mission control room,

12:44

hopefully cheer at the destruction of a

12:46

spacecraft and the loss of signal

12:48

air. Right. Right. To have something go to black, the

12:50

last you would want any ordinary mission, but this is no

12:52

ordinary mission, colonel. So -- Right. -- Kristen,

12:54

explaining, so we're looking at the smaller dot

12:56

there. That is Zymorphous. I

12:58

guess, these these two asteroids sort of go together.

13:00

Dymorphous is the one it's gonna slam into.

13:02

It's about the size I understand Colonel of

13:04

Egypt's great pyramid. that

13:06

spacecraft is equivalent to the size of a

13:08

refrigerator. And you're in the vast vacuum

13:10

of space here. How

13:12

is NASA? I mean, how amazing is

13:14

it COULD PULL THIS OFF? Reporter: WELL,

13:16

THIS IS INCREDIALLY AMAZING. THIS IS REALLY

13:18

THE FIRST TIME, Aaron, THAT WE

13:20

ARE USING THINGS THAT WE'VE

13:22

TALKED ABOUT IN SCIENCE FICTION. you

13:25

know, things that we see in movies

13:27

and in the TV series that

13:29

is truly designed

13:31

to protect the environment and

13:33

the planet itself. you know, you

13:35

go back to the time of the dinosaurs

13:37

and you the theory

13:39

is that the dinosaurs were made extinct.

13:41

because of an asteroid or a series of

13:44

asteroids hitting the earth, there was a

13:46

case in Russia in the

13:48

early late eight nineteenth

13:50

century, early twentieth century, where

13:52

we actually had an asteroid

13:54

hit Siberia that resulted in

13:56

a lot of destruction of territory.

13:59

They are luckily not very populated

14:01

territory, but still the danger is

14:03

definitely there. And it's something

14:05

that even though the probability is

14:07

low, is one of those low probability, high

14:09

impact things that could

14:11

happen. So with this

14:13

experiment, we're looking

14:15

at NASA potentially being

14:17

able to protect

14:19

our planet from asteroids of the

14:21

future.

14:21

And we're watching here as the

14:24

spacecraft dart approaches

14:27

diorphous. You can see it getting closer and closer. We're

14:29

here just in the final few seconds.

14:31

fourteen thousand miles an hour is what

14:33

you're watching. camera that we're watching is traveling

14:35

fourteen thousand miles an hour. On

14:38

on dart, the the spacecraft, the

14:40

refrigerator sized spacecraft that's going to slam

14:42

into dimorphous here. We're just literally

14:44

a few seconds away. So I

14:46

understand, Kristen, as it gets closer, we're just

14:48

gonna see it get closer and closer, and

14:50

then literally I kinda hear a lot of talking

14:52

behind you. We're gonna just hear an exceed

14:54

explosion then it'll go to black. It's

14:56

amazing, guys. I That's

14:58

right, Erin. It's gonna happen any second now,

15:00

and we're gonna see big chairs go up

15:02

in the mission control, which is right

15:04

here. Yeah. You just got some other folks

15:07

here cheering, but this is at the moment.

15:09

Dark hitting the De Morpheus asteroid.

15:12

Right now, wow, look at

15:14

the deep tail that you can see. It is amazing. It

15:16

looks like a So those are

15:18

rocks on the surface of

15:20

De Morpheus of some kind. Big

15:22

cheers going up here inside the

15:24

John Hopkins Applied Physics

15:26

Laboratory here and you just think about how much time

15:28

and energy the people in

15:30

this

15:30

room have how how much

15:32

time and effort they put into this

15:35

being a success. And there, I think

15:37

you can see the crowd cheering

15:39

down in mission control. We'd probably

15:42

the only time that you're gonna cheer for a

15:44

loss of a spacecraft, Erin.

15:45

Oh, and we have In

15:50

the name of planetary defense.

15:53

And

15:53

the name of planetary defense. And now

15:55

I okay. pretty amazing to see it.

15:57

I mean, that sounds like the room, obviously,

16:00

celebration in that room. I mean, talk

16:02

about threading a needle, Kristen. I mean, you

16:04

just said, you're talking about that they just

16:06

sent from Earth, an object the

16:08

size of a refrigerator into an object,

16:10

the size of the great pyramid. In the

16:12

middle of space, at

16:14

fourteen thousand miles an hour, and they

16:16

and they hit it. It's

16:18

unbelievable. So now, Erin, the

16:21

next big challenge NASA has

16:23

completed its first big objective. They've proven that

16:25

they can do this. They've proven that they can

16:27

take this spacecraft and slam it into an

16:29

asteroid. Now the big question

16:31

is, Were they able to successfully

16:34

move this asteroid off

16:36

its current orbit? They're not trying to move it

16:38

by a lot. This asteroid is

16:40

not gonna blow into a million pieces like you

16:42

saw in Armageddon. All they're trying to

16:44

do, Erin, is move it just slightly

16:46

off its orbit so that If this

16:48

were to happen in the future where there were

16:51

an asteroid that was potentially

16:53

gonna wipe out all of life as we know

16:55

it on planet Earth, could they do

16:57

this far enough a bit in advance

16:59

and not this potentially killer

17:01

asteroid off orbit and save the

17:03

planet? I mean, that's truly the

17:05

technology that they are testing here. And so it's

17:07

gonna take a few weeks before we know

17:09

if they've successfully completed that

17:11

objective. They do it by

17:13

using ground based telescopes that can actually

17:16

see the orbit of that

17:18

asteroid, see if they were able to push

17:20

it off course. But tonight, I

17:22

mean, you see these celebrations going on in

17:24

mission control. Just a

17:26

a big moment for this team proving

17:28

that NASA's first planetary defense

17:31

test emission is at least

17:33

fifty percent a big success.

17:35

And and, Colonel, just to be clear here, if you had

17:37

an asteroid about five times bigger

17:39

than this one relative to It could

17:41

destroy civilization as we know it. Right? I

17:43

mean, so the the the what's at stake

17:45

here is incredibly serious.

17:47

if this works, right, in terms

17:49

of preserving civilization.

17:50

Absolutely, Aaron. And the key thing

17:53

here to remember is that These

17:55

types of asteroids, you know,

17:57

can come in various sizes. They

17:59

can

17:59

pose various types of threats

18:02

to the planet. And by

18:04

doing this test, what NASA has

18:06

been able to do is they've been able to

18:08

show, as we've seen just

18:10

tonight, they've been able to show can

18:12

actually do something that potentially

18:15

can alter the track as Kristen was

18:17

mentioning the orbit of these

18:19

asteroids. And if they can do that, to

18:21

get the angles right, if they get everything in,

18:23

to make it work, that could

18:25

potentially save life as we know it. Yeah. And

18:27

good for them to have a victory after

18:29

all lays and have been happening on Artemis. Alright. Thank

18:32

you both very much. I appreciate it.

18:34

And next CNN obtaining video of

18:36

Roger Stone calling for violence on the

18:38

day before VOTERS WENT TO THE POLLS IN

18:40

twenty twenty THE DAY BEFORE CALLING FOR

18:42

VIOLENCE, PLUS AN OUTFRONT EXCLUSIVE AFTER

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18:46

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18:52

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18:54

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18:56

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18:58

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Tonight,

20:12

CNN obtaining

20:14

video Trump ally, Roger

20:16

Stone, that have been handed over to the

20:18

January sixth committee. And what they

20:21

show here is Stone talking about claiming

20:23

victory and getting, quote, right

20:25

to the violence. That's a quote. And

20:27

that was just days before the

20:29

twenty twenty election.

20:31

Excellent. The

20:34

violett. The violetti.

20:36

Let's get right through the violetti.

20:39

right to it. Shoot

20:41

to

20:42

kill. CCNNT5

20:44

Shoot to kill. Come. Done

20:46

with his motion. Shoot

20:50

to kill

20:50

f the voting. Evan

20:52

Perez is out front. Well,

20:54

Evan, I mean, he said it. It's a pretty you know,

20:56

there's no there's no ambiguity there, and

20:58

this footage is expected to be part of the

21:00

January sixth committee hearing on Wednesday.

21:03

What more can you tell me?

21:05

Well, Erin, as you said,

21:07

this is a hearing that

21:09

is expected to focus

21:11

on the extremist that played a role in

21:13

the in the the violence on

21:16

January sixth. And as you can tell,

21:18

even days before the

21:20

election, Roger Stone was already sort

21:22

of laying the groundwork for this idea that

21:24

Donald Trump won the election even

21:26

without seeing the results. Take a listen.

21:29

Let's

21:30

just hope we're celebrating.

21:32

I suspect it'll be I

21:34

really do suspect it'll still be up in the

21:37

air. When that happens, the key thing to do

21:39

is to claim victory. As action is

21:41

nine tenths of law, no. We want I'm sorry.

21:43

Over. We want Yeah. You're wrong.

21:46

you. ABC always.

21:48

And, Aaron, we get it get we did get a

21:51

statement from Roger Stone. I'll read

21:53

you all of it here. It says that I challenged

21:55

the accuracy and the authenticity

21:57

of these videos and believe that they've

21:59

been manipulated and selectively

22:01

edited. I also point out that the

22:03

filmmakers do not have the legal right to

22:05

use them how ironic

22:07

that Kim Kardashian and I are both

22:09

subjected to computer manipulated

22:11

videos on the same day

22:13

the excerpts you provided below

22:15

proved nothing. Certainly, they

22:17

do not prove that I had anything to do

22:19

with the events. of January sixth.

22:21

That being said, it clearly shows I

22:24

advocated for lawful, congressional,

22:26

and judicial options. I'm not

22:29

sure what Roger Stone is talking about with the Kim Kardashian.

22:31

I actually googled this and I couldn't find

22:33

everything Aaron. Yeah. But, you

22:35

know, we we expect that his

22:37

association with the Proud Boys and these other

22:39

groups is gonna be a major focus of

22:41

the hearing that's coming up.

22:42

Alright, Evan Press. Thank you

22:44

very much. So John Dean's with me now, the

22:46

former Nixon White House Council here actually with me

22:48

on set tonight. And Stephanie Grisham is back,

22:50

former Trump White House Press Secretary

22:52

Terry. So, so glad to have both of you on

22:54

this, John. Let me start with you because you're with

22:57

me. I'm clear what that statement

22:59

is the Roger Stone just put out but

23:01

nonetheless -- And I'm clear. -- he did say

23:04

f the voting, let's get right

23:06

to the violence. So whatever else he may or may not

23:08

have said around it, he said those

23:10

things. what's your reaction to this? Well, his

23:11

response is terribly weak.

23:13

Somebody manipulated the video and

23:16

the sound. he's

23:18

clearly been caught in

23:21

some context. We don't have the full

23:23

story. We may never get

23:25

the full story from Roger. fair.

23:27

Well, I

23:27

mean, and and that that's probably true. Stephanie,

23:31

I wanna play another clip from the week

23:33

after January sixth. this where

23:35

Stone criticises the White House Council's office. He says

23:37

the White House Council said told

23:39

Trump that Trump could not preemptively

23:42

pardon Stone for

23:44

his role in any efforts to

23:46

overturn the election, let me play that

23:48

part.

23:49

Has it been pitched to the

23:51

president? Yes, it has. I

23:53

believe the president's for it. The obstacles are

23:56

these are these Lilly lippered,

23:59

weak need, bureaucrats in

24:02

the White House Council's office, and now they

24:04

must be crushed because they've told

24:06

the president something that's not

24:08

true. I

24:09

mean, Stephanie, it's just, you know,

24:12

lily livid. They

24:14

have to be crushed. Let's get right to the violence,

24:16

f, the voting. I mean, Is this just a

24:18

guy who wants everybody to think he's just really cool

24:20

and this crowd that he's rolling with or is

24:22

this something bigger you have a better sense

24:24

of the man

24:26

than many? Well, you know,

24:26

I actually didn't know. Roger Stone

24:29

that that well. And usually on your your

24:31

show, I say this didn't surprise me.

24:33

That actually me to hear

24:35

him say, f the voting and and where's

24:37

the violence? Or let's get to the

24:39

violence? You know, I think the thing

24:41

got me, first of all, in the first video, was

24:43

him saying a possession is

24:45

nine tensed a lot. We'll just say we

24:47

won. That was how our

24:49

White House worked. You just set

24:51

it whether it was about COVID

24:54

or the border wall and how much was built.

24:56

You just set it. It didn't matter if it was true.

24:58

You just set it over and over and

25:00

over again. until your supporters believed it. Now that last

25:02

part, that sounded to me like Donald

25:04

Trump. He would get so angry

25:06

at our White House counsel if

25:09

him sound, solid

25:11

legal advice, and he would call them

25:13

weak, empathetic, and constantly say, why don't

25:15

I have strong lawyers? So that really was

25:17

reminiscent to me of Donald Trump. And so

25:19

that sounds actually bolstering the

25:21

reality of what of what Roger

25:24

Stone said. Now John, this comes on the same day that the White House

25:26

chief of staff, the former White House chief of staff

25:28

Mark Meadows. His name comes up again. Look,

25:30

we know he's central to this. We really haven't heard

25:32

from a lot lately. So we don't know

25:34

whether he's cooperating or what, but his importance.

25:36

We already knew it was there. He's getting bigger and

25:38

bigger. So we have text messages now at

25:40

CNN that shows that Meadows was

25:42

briefed by a man named Phil Waldron. Phil

25:45

Waldron was important. He was an operative who was trying

25:47

to gain access to voting machines and

25:49

voting systems in battleground states.

25:51

Waldron, Texas Meadows, right after the election,

25:53

after an Arizona judge dismissed the lawsuits,

25:55

so they lost in court. He says we'll

25:57

focus on Georgia, but that was

25:59

our lead domino that we were counting on to start the cascade.

26:02

Meadows replies pathetic.

26:04

Now,

26:04

perhaps in that exchange,

26:07

you now see direct direct communication

26:09

between the chief of staff and this man. How much trouble

26:11

do you think Meadows is in?

26:12

Well, Fannie Willis and Georgia may

26:15

be very in that Maybe

26:17

the feds won't be interested. I think

26:19

they're just generally interested in

26:21

Mark Meadows. Something happened,

26:24

Aaron. he was held in

26:26

contempt by the January sixth

26:28

committee. He has never been

26:30

prosecuted for that. There's a reason

26:32

for that. He not only does have a good

26:34

lawyer. He's got a lot of

26:36

information. So you're in cooperation.

26:38

It's it's early in the story.

26:40

Yes.

26:40

Well, that's and that's significant, Stephanie, because

26:42

you know Meadows well from your time in

26:44

the White House. How much do you think

26:46

he is cooperating with investigators? Do you

26:48

think that's right? I do. I

26:50

would agree with John on that. I

26:52

would say number one, Mark Meadows is always

26:54

gonna look out for number one, and so

26:56

I he's probably cooperating. He has just

26:59

disappeared. But I actually wanna take a step

27:01

back and say, I hope he

27:02

is cooperating.

27:03

And look, you know, there

27:05

is

27:05

no law of loss between Mark Meadows and

27:07

I, probably, we will never ever get

27:09

along, but there's

27:10

never a, you know, bad time to

27:12

do the right thing. And so I hope he is taking and

27:15

this is for the country. It's not about

27:17

saving your own behind. It's

27:19

not being loyal to Donald Trump anymore. I

27:21

hope that if he's watching this

27:23

I can say to you, Mark, this is about the country

27:25

and just doing the right thing. We all

27:27

got sucked into it and

27:29

you could really play a vital role

27:31

in showing the country who that

27:33

man was and what really really happened

27:35

on that day. Alright.

27:37

Stephanie, thank you very much, John Dean. So

27:39

nice to see you in person. Thank you.

27:41

Alright. Thanks both. And next, an

27:43

out front exclusive. I'm gonna speak to

27:45

Andy Tiena Quinn. He has just been released

27:47

after being inhaled captive in Ukraine

27:50

for more than one hundred days.

27:52

Andy and his fiancee Joy Black are together

27:54

and they are joining us first

27:56

interview next. I'm happy just to even see

27:58

them here. Plus, we take you

27:59

inside Florida Governor Ron DeSantis'

28:02

operation to fly migrants from Texas

28:04

to Martha Vineyard. A migrant who

28:06

was a key player there speaking

28:08

exclusively to CNN. You'll

28:10

want to hear what he has

28:12

to say.

28:15

TONIGHT

28:15

BACK HOME AFTER BEING HEALTH

28:17

CAPTIVE BY RUSSIAN BACKED FOR MORE

28:19

THAN one hundred DAYS Forty year old

28:21

Alex Druke and twenty seven year

28:23

old Andy Tyna Quinn are back in their

28:25

home state of Alabama. Freed after

28:27

a prisoner swap with Ukraine just

28:30

days ago. and you can

28:30

see them going to the airport after

28:33

being released finally for the first

28:35

time seeing those that they loved after a

28:37

hundred days so there

28:39

were times they didn't know if they ever would reuniting. They have

28:41

been undergoing medical checks, reuniting

28:43

with friends and family, They

28:45

were captured back in June at the time they

28:47

were fighting with Ukrainian forces north of

28:50

Kharkiv. This is a story as as you know that

28:52

we have been following closely on the show. And

28:54

out front now in an exclusive interview, their

28:56

first joint interview since Andy came home,

28:58

Andy Tyna Quinn and his fiancee

29:01

joy black. I am

29:03

so happy to see you, Andy.

29:05

You know, I know you

29:05

You can't get it anymore.

29:07

Well, less, I'm very happy.

29:10

And I

29:10

know you say you missed her every day. She

29:13

certainly she certainly missed you. Joy,

29:15

I I just wanna play the moment

29:17

we see Andy arriving back in Alabama

29:20

safely. I know when

29:22

you saw him for the first time in

29:24

New York, And I'm sure, you know, you're waiting and

29:26

waiting and waiting for this moment. But then when the

29:28

moment happened, it totally took you by surprise.

29:30

Tell me what tell me how it

29:32

went down. I

29:32

I was actually

29:35

with Alec's mother, Bobby, at the

29:37

time, and

29:37

we were checking in to a

29:40

place of

29:40

know that they were there yet. The

29:43

lobby

29:43

and they used the prices from behind,

29:46

and they gave me a hug, and I just

29:47

started crying. I

29:50

didn't know he was it was just

29:51

a big surprise, but happy to work.

29:53

What was

29:54

that like for you, Andy, when you came up behind

29:57

her and you know she's waiting for you, but she didn't know you were you

29:59

were there at that

29:59

moment. Yeah. Like, it was

30:01

like, Alex

30:03

and

30:03

I, like, human idea just to kinda

30:06

hide off corner. And, eventually, when we

30:07

saw them come, the one less, like, snuck

30:10

up. When I finally embraced

30:12

her, like,

30:13

Exactly. Happy again.

30:15

You felt happy again. So,

30:18

Andy, I know that you still need to debrief US

30:20

officials fully on your captivity. I mean, you

30:22

went through more than a hundred days in

30:24

incredible trauma. And I know

30:26

there's really not much you can say about it

30:28

right now in the midst of all that. Is there anything

30:30

that you do wanna share about

30:32

what happened? At at

30:34

the time, I I did not just

30:37

I don't know

30:37

what I can or can't say without

30:41

being Yeah. No, I understand.

30:42

Enjoy. It's got to be

30:44

so hard, not talking to Andy for

30:46

more than one hundred days.

30:49

what is it like now as you try

30:52

to you try to talk

30:54

again and you're you're sort of reengaging to

30:56

someone you missed every day and

30:58

yet obviously, this this unbelievable

31:01

thing happened.

31:04

It's

31:06

we're kinda kicking in our own

31:08

face and kinda slow, but

31:10

it's actually

31:10

I'm glad that he's, you know,

31:12

he's still here.

31:13

And, you know, we didn't we didn't do

31:16

any

31:16

better. Excuse me. It's so antsy.

31:18

And

31:18

even though it's still kinda hard and we're

31:20

still sorting through things, So

31:22

readjusting. You might have that little

31:25

background. Yeah. No.

31:26

And and it's it's I can't don't

31:28

even wanna use the word normal because, obviously, Andy,

31:30

nothing that you through was

31:33

normal. And but but it it of

31:35

course, it's gonna take time. I mean, Angie, did

31:37

you have any idea that joy was

31:39

on national television pleading for your

31:41

release, you know, of everything that she was doing

31:43

to try to make sure everyone

31:45

knew about you and how she was trying to bring

31:47

you home. To that

31:48

extent, I

31:51

didn't know Alex was a

31:53

representative for the Americans

31:54

that were there,

31:55

and he

31:57

when we we were able to meet up again anymore

31:59

of us to meet

32:01

what was happening in the world

32:03

more

32:03

specifically on

32:04

news front. joy and money telling about

32:06

us. So I

32:08

when we

32:09

knew, like, small small

32:11

mall information

32:12

that's

32:13

about it. Enjoy. You

32:15

said that Andy had a wish

32:17

that you found out after his you knew

32:19

he was coming home, but he had a a wish

32:21

for a wish. I'm sorry. First big

32:23

spaghetti dinner with meat sauce and

32:26

a long list of fast food.

32:28

Did you get to have that

32:30

spaghetti dinner? Yes.

32:33

We ended up having

32:35

this night. Last night. Yes.

32:38

For the fact, we looked like McDonald's this

32:41

airport was there, so we spent a bit of

32:43

time.

32:44

That's alright. I think that

32:46

was the most important thing was just being able to spend

32:48

time together. Well, thank you both so much. I look forward to

32:50

talking to you again, and we're just

32:52

really so, as I say, joy

32:55

to you. joyful

32:56

that you have had this wonderful reunion.

32:58

Thank you both.

33:02

Alright. And next for the first time we from

33:04

a migrant who was on the inside of the operation

33:06

to fly migrants to Martha's Vineyard,

33:08

how he became a key player

33:10

in Ron DeSantis says play.

33:13

Plus hurricane Ian, forecasters are calling

33:15

it the storm of a lifetime. Wins now close to

33:17

one hundred miles an hour. The latest on

33:19

the track as it turns

33:20

towards Florida.

33:22

You ever

33:24

wondered what it's really like to live

33:27

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33:29

my conversation with Ed

33:31

Young. I'm doctor Sanjay Gupta, and this

33:33

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33:35

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33:37

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33:39

own sensory bubble. I'll

33:41

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33:43

made me better. at owning pets.

33:45

Listen to chasing life on

33:47

Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio,

33:50

or your favorite podcast app.

33:53

TONIGHT

33:55

WE'RE

33:56

HEARING FOR THE FIRST TIME FROM SOMEONE INSIDE

33:58

THE EFFORT TO FLY TWO PLANS FULL OF

33:59

MIGRADS TO MARTHA'S Vineyard. A

34:02

MIGRANT SPEAKING EXCLUSIVELY ON

34:04

CAMERA. TO CNN, SAYS HE FEELS

34:06

BETRADE AFTER HE HIMSELF WAS LAARD TO HELP

34:08

RECRUTE OTHER

34:10

MIGRENTS. REA

34:10

SENTANA WITH THIS EXCLUSIVE REPORT. Reporter:

34:12

FOR THE FIRST TIME

34:14

TO SEE ANN, SOMEONE IN THE INSIDE

34:17

OF THE OPERATE and recruiting migrants out of San Antonio,

34:19

Texas, is telling his story on camera. The

34:22

man we spoke to himself of recently

34:24

arrived migrant describing details of

34:26

working with

34:28

a woman who many have said identified herself

34:30

only as Berla. He says he was living on

34:32

the streets of San Antonio for twenty

34:34

eight days before Berla offered

34:36

him clothes food, and

34:38

money to help her secure migrants for

34:40

the flight to Martha's Vineyard. He showed

34:42

us her business card,

34:44

text messages, and let us listen to

34:46

audio messages from Perla, revealing

34:48

she was still in contact with him as

34:50

recently as last week.

34:52

For his safety, we are protecting

34:54

his identity. who

34:54

approached you. We're not cheaper. A woman. She said her name

34:57

was Berla. I didn't know if that was her

34:59

real name. I didn't ask either.

35:02

My only intention was to help the people so they could get some stability.

35:04

She took them to a hotel. At

35:06

the hotel, I realized that they were being treated

35:08

well. Their three meals had benefits.

35:11

such as laundry, clothes, things that they didn't

35:13

have the expectation of getting. What did

35:15

she say you had

35:17

to do? Recruit

35:20

people. help

35:20

her. She said she would hire me and give me some of her cards. I

35:22

distributed those cards based on the information,

35:24

which is that we would send them to

35:27

a sanctuary place. In addition to that, until the flight would

35:29

leave, we would take them to a hotel where, as I

35:31

explained to you, they were provided services. What

35:34

did she say to you, to

35:35

tell these migrants

35:38

when you approach them. Did she give you any instructions about

35:40

how to talk to

35:42

them, to try to get them, to get on

35:44

these flights?

35:46

She had told me that the people who were

35:48

going to Massachusetts before I sent them. She

35:50

had told me that they were going to receive them.

35:53

They were going to live. They were going to stay. They were

35:55

going to help them with the language. And those

35:57

who had children, they were going to study.

35:59

These

35:59

migrants, you know, many of them say

36:02

offered ten dollar McDonald's

36:04

gift cards, and then they were asked

36:06

to sign a consent form, to

36:08

get on

36:10

these

36:10

flights They gave them to me so that I could give them to

36:12

them when people wanted to be on the flight.

36:14

Everything was always voluntary. No one

36:16

was ever forced to do anything.

36:18

When these people always said yes, I made sure that they gave me the papers, their

36:21

migration papers. Two planes left San

36:23

Antonio on

36:23

September fourteenth headed to Florida

36:26

and ultimately

36:28

Malthus Vineyard. Once he arrived, he received a concerned phone message

36:30

from one of the migrants. We

36:33

are at the

36:34

utopia man, and there's nothing.

36:38

and we are waiting to see if we can find a bed because I'm going to have

36:40

no place to sleep. There's nothing here.

36:42

We're adrift here. These people didn't even

36:44

know we would arrive. With that,

36:46

I'm telling you everything so that you can see bro. It's not me.

36:49

It's the reality. He says he

36:50

messaged Berla that the migrants were

36:54

because nobody was there to meet them and they were sleeping on the

36:56

side of the road. He showed us what

36:58

he says, Betelat texted back. Tell

37:00

them to call the numbers we gave them.

37:03

the church, the state has to take

37:05

care of them. Later that night, he says

37:07

she left him an audio message saying, I

37:09

know they were scared at first BUT NOW

37:11

THEY ARE IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE AND THEY ARE GOING

37:13

TO BE TAKEN CARE OF THERE, LIKE YOU HAVE

37:15

NO IDEA. I KNOW THEY ARRIVED IN

37:18

ANOTHER CITY BUT IT IS

37:20

WITHIN Massachusetts. Believe me, they are going to have a much better

37:22

life than here or anywhere

37:24

else. He says he believed everything

37:26

Betla promised

37:28

him. Over the last few days, he says she's been warning him not

37:30

to talk to reporters, texting him.

37:32

If a reporter calls you, don't

37:36

say anything. He says he didn't

37:38

know governor Ron DeSantis was responsible for the planes to Martha's vineyard

37:40

until he saw the news, and Peralta

37:42

never informed him who she was working

37:45

for. I was always aware

37:47

that it was a benefactor who was paying

37:49

for things. I repeat. I never ever

37:51

knew that it was a governor

37:53

or a politician. So

37:55

my only will has always been to help people.

37:58

In the end, I

37:58

asked him if he felt betrayed by all

38:01

of this. See?

38:02

Claro? Yes. Of course.

38:04

Look. look at all of this where

38:06

I am first so that everyone knows that

38:08

I have nothing to do with perception.

38:10

Second, that always, as I said

38:12

from the beginning, my only principle has been to help

38:15

people I really see as needy.

38:18

I am right. It's amazing just

38:19

to hear it in

38:22

his voice. And when you have that that voicemail, you know, sort

38:24

of referring it to, this is no utopia.

38:26

But the choice of the word, it's almost as

38:28

if that's how it had been

38:30

promised. Right. What else do we know about this woman? She becomes more

38:32

important who calls herself parallel. Yeah.

38:34

That's really a lot of what's publicly known

38:36

about her. That this woman named parallel

38:40

was very much at the center of all of this. And she was the one approaching people

38:43

and she was the one recruiting people. A lot

38:45

of what we know about her is it

38:47

comes from the migrants themselves.

38:50

they describe her, they say what she told them, what she promised them, but

38:52

no one has been able to publicly identify her.

38:54

And a lot of these migrants don't

38:57

even know her name. They got on

38:59

the plane with this business card, with just first name, no company,

39:02

no other information except the phone number,

39:04

and she was able to

39:06

convince them to

39:07

do this. Now what I

39:10

trusted

39:10

her. And they trusted her. And what we hear

39:12

from you know, we hear a lot from on

39:14

both sides is that she was either

39:16

this good Samaritan who really cared about people on the streets and

39:18

wanted to get them to a better place, or that she was

39:20

a mastermind just taking advantage of people

39:22

and probably maybe working in connection

39:26

with some political operative, maybe to scientists -- Yeah. -- but we

39:28

still have a lot to to learn about this mystery

39:30

woman. Certainly a lot to learn. Although interesting

39:32

is in that one tech you

39:35

know, that that she said, you know, the state will take care of you.

39:37

I mean, the new certain certain things that

39:39

that that obviously pretty

39:42

one

39:42

specific and then one specific reporter would

39:44

lead you to think political, but but obviously still

39:46

so many questions. Mhmm. Alright. Well, thank you

39:48

so much, Maria, for that report.

39:50

And next, Hurricane Ian, now a category two two, and it's

39:53

gonna they say, get get stronger.

39:55

The winds are gonna pick

39:57

up as it's moving through this very

39:59

hot water. We're going to be a catastrophic storm. Officials telling people in parts of Florida to

40:02

leave now. We have the latest on the track

40:04

next, plus the massive price tag for

40:06

Biden's plan,

40:08

TO RELIEVE STUDENT

40:10

DEAD. Reporter:

40:11

TONIGHT THE STORM OF

40:13

A LIFE TIME those

40:16

are the words from NASA posting a video of hurricane Ian from

40:18

space as it intensifies and

40:20

pushes north toward Florida. The Tampa area

40:23

right now is preparing for a

40:25

potential direct hit would be the first direct hit to Tampa

40:27

in more than one hundred years. Thousands of

40:30

Florida residents are under mandatory

40:32

evacuation orders tonight.

40:34

Tom Sater is out front from the

40:36

CNN weather center. Tom, what are you

40:38

seeing right now here? That picture that

40:40

satellite picture was just

40:41

unbelievable. Yeah, really isn't. When you think

40:43

about it, Tampa nineteen twenty one, the last

40:45

direct hit. However, this will be the

40:48

first major hurricane to

40:50

come this close and passed this close to Tampa since nineteen fifty,

40:52

so a lot of people have never been through this. It's

40:54

about a hundred and ten, a hundred and twenty miles from

40:56

Western Cuba waiting for the eye

40:58

to form the warmest

41:00

waters across the entire Atlantica in this

41:02

area, so it underwent rapid

41:04

intensification. It'll probably do

41:06

that again. If you look at the watches and warnings are in place, it looks kind of chaotic

41:08

here, but in pinker watches. And then

41:10

we've upgraded this National Hurricane Center

41:12

from a watch to

41:14

a warning including the Tampa area. That means twenty four, thirty six

41:16

hours will have some hurricane conditions.

41:18

Computer plots still you know, there's

41:20

some variations here. So things can still

41:22

change, and we see that all the

41:24

time. The two main models, the American and

41:26

European, have been fluctuating. In fact,

41:28

yesterday, Americans now today

41:30

sliding to the to the east The European

41:32

sliding westward, they're becoming a better

41:34

agreement. So the cone of

41:36

uncertainty here still gives us a little

41:38

bit of a a

41:40

wiggle room but it goes from a category four to a one. Pay

41:42

no attention to the four Aaron because it's

41:44

gonna carry that surge equivalent

41:46

to a

41:48

category four right into the Tampa Bay area in all the tributaries

41:50

and endless to the south of there. Which

41:52

is really amazing because what

41:53

you're saying here is that really

41:55

the numbers that we're used to referencing 1234

41:58

actually aren't what's relevant here. You're looking at

41:59

something catastrophic

42:02

regardless. Yeah.

42:02

Absolutely. And the big problem here is, I mean, when you look at a

42:04

category one, that's just talking about wins. Well, we're still

42:06

gonna have a three hundred mile swap of

42:10

tropical storm force winds, but it's all about

42:12

to surge. So the warnings have been down

42:14

the whole coast as we're really gonna see

42:16

it spin counterclockwise. Here's the two models again.

42:18

They were in disagreement. American in red, European

42:20

in blue. You can't get a better agreement,

42:22

but look how it just blows up. The

42:24

problem here is it's going to

42:27

slow down we thought maybe five miles per hour. Now it's

42:29

maybe two or three. That means

42:32

thirty six to forty eight

42:34

hours just off in the worst

42:36

possible position to throw that

42:38

surge hour after hour into

42:40

the bay and every inlet. And

42:42

it impends the water from receding. It

42:44

acts as a dam. So as the

42:46

waters continue to build up, which we're

42:48

looking at five to ten, plus, you

42:50

know, ten, fifteen inches of rain then on top

42:52

of that. So we're hoping if we can get that to jog just

42:54

thirty miles off to the west,

42:56

we have a big

42:58

relief. Huge relief. I mean, huge

43:02

relief. it is interesting for Just to

43:03

emphasize what the exclamation point on this for people, five miles an hour

43:05

is slow, two to three is really slow, but that's

43:07

twice as long that it would take

43:10

walker. Yeah. Yeah. And just to

43:12

give everyone a sense of how those differences can

43:14

make such a massive difference. Thanks

43:17

so much, Tom. And next the first

43:19

time we're learning the estimated price tag of Biden's plan

43:21

to cancel student debt. And it's about double

43:23

what the White

43:26

House told

43:26

us. And

43:30

finally tonight, the massive

43:31

price tag for Biden's student

43:34

debt relief package of four hundred billion dollars. That is the new estimate

43:36

from the congressional budget offices, which did in

43:38

a now

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