In this, the first part of the third European Echo podcast, Charlie interviews artist Xavier Robles de Medina ahead of his first solo exhibition, at Catinca Tabacaru Gallery on the LES in NYC. It's not a particularly conventional interview. Mostly we ended up talking about one of the things that interests us, the creativity involved in people's consumption habits. It does skirt around some of Xavier's attitudes to his work, but in keeping with his general perspective, we didn't spend any time talking about what it means, or the intention behind it.