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The Derek Carr decision is rapidly approaching

Released Saturday, 4th February 2023
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insurance. We were talking about something,

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ah, yes, February fifteen.

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Yes. February fifteenth is

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the day that the raiders need to

1:00

make a decision on Derek Carr. Either keep them or

1:02

cut them. Everyone knows they're cutting them. They're trying to

1:04

trade them before then. So as much as we've

1:06

talked all week about the jets quarterback situation,

1:08

and Aaron Rogers, and guess there's the reports

1:11

that Joe Douglas is out there telling everybody

1:13

will listen that they're in on Rogers.

1:16

Obviously, Derek Hart, if you didn't see last night,

1:18

at the Skills Competition, he

1:20

put on a show compared to other court. I've actually

1:22

had a real show. He hitting all the targets.

1:25

He looked great apparently. He even made a quip

1:27

at the end of it. They're like, have you ever done this well

1:29

here? He goes, no. That's why I'm getting traded.

1:31

So he's on his way out. But my

1:33

point is, we all

1:35

know what plan a is. Whether whether Joe Douglas

1:37

is saying it's a people, which I doubt he is, I

1:39

think it's pretty clear. Yeah. One of

1:41

the greatest quarterbacks in the NFL's history, in my

1:43

opinion, is on is available, probably.

1:46

He's the number one guy. I think that makes him

1:48

a Super Bowl contender we talked about it all week.

1:51

Part two or choice two really seems

1:53

to be Derek Carr. Yes. I mean, I like him

1:55

better than Grabalo. I mean, obviously,

1:57

you know, Lamar Jackson is sort

1:59

of an option that would be higher than car. Definitely.

2:01

But, really, the most realistic guy who's

2:03

clearly getting moved besides Aaron

2:05

Rogers is Derek Carr. So

2:08

the question is for me, what

2:10

did the Jets do here? You talked about it on your

2:12

show. I heard you talking about it. You don't wanna get

2:14

left the altar. You can't enter back into

2:17

the draft if you're the jets. No. You have to get

2:19

a legitimate franchise, you know,

2:21

starting quarterback, which Derek Carr is

2:23

not on the same levels, maybe some other guys,

2:25

but with the rest of this roster, good

2:28

enough to win. No doubt. Yeah. So he gets

2:30

cut on the fifteenth because I don't know what his trademark

2:32

is gonna be. Knowing this deadline's coming,

2:35

he's gonna get cut on the fifteenth. So you could either

2:37

trade for him and have exclusive rights to work out a

2:39

contract, I guess, or you could

2:41

wait until he gets cut and then come in with the

2:43

money. What

2:45

do the jets do? If they want Rogers,

2:48

yeah, but you don't know you're gonna get them.

2:50

Right? This happens on

2:52

the fifteenth. You have to make a

2:54

move. You can't be the guy left at the

2:56

altar. You can't pass on this. Watch

2:58

him get watch Aaron Rogers get traded to the Raiders

3:01

or to the Tennessee or somewhere else.

3:03

And now you're without car, you're without

3:07

Aaron Rogers, and you're stuck wondering what the

3:09

hell am I gonna do? Jimmy g. You

3:11

know, obviously, Baker Mayfields are

3:13

another level even further down than those

3:16

two, what do you do? So I

3:18

really think if you look at how the jets react

3:20

on the fifteenth with car, and how much

3:22

connection they get to them, you'll have an

3:24

idea of how much they think that Aaron

3:26

Rogers is

3:27

likely. Yep. You're you're not winning a Super Bowl

3:29

of Car you have a shot of winning a Super Bowl

3:31

with Aaron Rogers. Look, jobs are on the line

3:33

here because if you're Joe Douglas, you failed

3:36

with Zach Wilson. Nah. Hardest thing to

3:38

do in all sports is draft a quarterback and a quarterback

3:40

to be great. It's hard. It's impossible at times

3:42

sometimes to predict. Now if Douglas

3:44

brings in a Derek car, a proven

3:46

good quarterback with the young talent they

3:49

have. And they don't win, then Solo

3:51

will be gone. But Douglas could say, you know what?

3:53

Yes. That's Wilson wasn't good. But Carr

3:55

was good. We got to the playoffs and the coach

3:57

failed.

3:57

If you get Aaron Rogers, though, you have a chance

4:00

to win a Super Bowl. It's a weird spot because

4:02

I know the fans, jet

4:03

fans, they want our

4:04

reps to be. But but if

4:06

KAR goes to another team, pick your team, Carolina

4:09

whatever, and Aaron Rogers stays in

4:11

Green Bay. And you're left with

4:13

a baker Mayfield or a Jimmy

4:15

G. You are no luck to make the playoffs.

4:18

And then I don't know what the hell happens because

4:20

now you were left at the altar, you have no

4:22

shadow winning the Super Bowl, you have young

4:24

talent, you have a team that basically had a friggin'

4:26

mutiny against Ag Wilson right it wrong and that's

4:28

on the coach. It puts them in a tricky

4:30

spot here. But if they're all in on Aaron Rogers

4:32

Mac, I think they're all in and they're gonna

4:34

do whatever they can get to get Aaron

4:36

Rogers. And if they lose out on Derek Carr,

4:38

they will go, you know what? Derek Carr is not

4:41

that much better than a baker.

4:43

Than a chimichie, than a taco. don't know.

4:45

That's Well, but I think if they if they make

4:47

that calculation -- Well -- then they're gonna

4:49

say all the eggs in the Rogers

4:51

basket. And if Green Bay says, nah, he's

4:53

staying here or we trade him and he reunites with

4:55

thevante in Vegas.

4:56

Yeah. The

4:57

jets are gonna be looking at a scenario where they're gonna

4:59

have a middling of the world quarterback. Yes.

5:01

Upgrade because anything's better than what they had

5:03

this

5:03

year. But it's not just a slight

5:05

upgrade. I mean, he's he's in that second

5:07

tier of quarterback. What are we talking

5:09

about now? As far as I'm saying, upgrade from the last three

5:11

quarters? No. But I'm saying anybody's an upgrade.

5:13

Even a baker may feel it as an upgrade I wanna say. What

5:15

I'm saying is you're making it, like, car is just another

5:18

upgrade. You know, I think it's a significant

5:20

upgrade. I think it's

5:21

a it makes them a playoff team. don't think it makes them

5:23

a

5:23

super bowl control. I mean, it depends on how good the rest of the world

5:25

is looking at Let's feel I don't think Connor's getting you

5:27

a Super Bowl. No. No. No. No.

5:30

Herts might. What's that? Herts

5:32

might. What is that? What's that supposed to mean? Do you

5:34

think Herts is that much better than Carr? I do.

5:36

Really? Yeah. I actually do. Well, I wasn't always

5:38

a big hurt sky. I I yeah. Even though the judge

5:41

would beat them. Yes. I've always been a hurt

5:43

sky. And I'm

5:43

gonna build the roster now to win that. That's

5:45

another whole organization because obviously

5:48

the Eagles have a better roster than the Jets.

5:50

No doubt. The Jets have building blocks. A lot of teams

5:52

have building

5:52

ball. But you're seeing a team right now in the suit ball.

5:55

You're actually seeing the two dichotomies of it. Really?

5:57

The great quarter back with -- Great. -- probably lesser

5:59

team, although the defensive front you know, got

6:01

after Burrow and won them a game, they have

6:03

talent. They have Andy Reed. They also have a great

6:05

coach. No doubt about it. But the great Do

6:07

they have a Burrow coach? No. Okay.

6:09

I don't think so. I don't I'd be surprised if I

6:11

think there's a small I'm not even sure he's a coach.

6:14

Yeah. I'm not sure either. There's a chance he be he's

6:16

certainly not gonna offense of mine. Aaron Rogers, I think

6:18

I'm looking like a better coach. That's for sure.

6:20

Yeah. And obviously, their offense coordinator

6:22

on Hackett -- Yeah. -- has had history with him that you

6:24

would expect it to be good. But you're almost seeing the dynamic of

6:26

the quarterback. I still think Hertz is average.

6:28

I know we can run. I know he had monster year. No. I

6:30

disagree with that. I don't don't think he's

6:32

that good. I don't think he's that I think he's here because I

6:34

think they're here because the roster's damn

6:36

good. Think he played that well against San Francisco,

6:38

to be honest. He misthrows all over. He

6:40

was not good. He was not good. Well, I agree with that. He was

6:42

not good against the diners. didn't he didn't he didn't do much

6:44

against the Giants. he's had a great deal.

6:46

If the jets have the same opinion that most

6:48

of us seem to have, and most of the people who talk about

6:50

it have, where it's Roger's a

6:53

and Kabi. And then the rest of the field. And

6:55

then the and then it's a step throwing

6:57

Lamar Jackson

6:58

out. I don't think that's

6:58

right. Yeah. I got

6:59

two main yeah. Rogers.

7:01

I see. You got car b,

7:04

and then the field. Yeah. I That

7:06

big step down. Big step down in their role equal.

7:08

If that's how the jets view it. February

7:11

fifteenth is an interesting day. Yeah. Because

7:13

can you afford to pass

7:15

up on b with the hopes of getting

7:17

a. It's a it's a very interesting

7:20

a very interesting conversation. Yeah.

7:21

Because again There's

7:22

gonna be a lot of teams interested in being

7:24

They they're not going I don't think they're going

7:26

to the Super Bowl or winning a Super Bowl with Derek

7:28

Carr. But Derek Carr, did you ability, a quarterback,

7:30

a guy who's made the playoffs, a guy that can win games

7:32

with this roster, with that running injuries. Hall comes

7:34

back, a large player. Tucker comes back. You have

7:36

Garrett Wilson. You have guys on that defense. You

7:39

will be in the playoff mix, no doubt

7:41

about it. But if you're the Jets,

7:43

if you're the Jets fan, it's about winning the Super

7:45

Bowl So I would wonder what the reaction

7:47

from the fans would be is it's like, hey,

7:50

we don't wanna risk it. We don't wanna risk

7:52

it. We know Rogers. Gives us a chance to

7:54

win a Super Bowl. Aaron's getting older. He's not

7:56

getting younger. We're not a lock. The AFC's

7:58

loaded with quarterbacks. Carr gives us

8:00

stability and what car

8:02

is, he's younger.

8:03

Yeah. So you have a younger young

8:05

girl -- Yeah. -- quarterback that you could be at least

8:07

a playoff caliber team

8:09

with a young roster for years to come.

8:11

Counter window.

8:12

But with those quarterbacks in the

8:14

AFC Mac that are loaded with young quarterback's

8:16

-- Yeah. -- Derek Carr is not in the class of any

8:19

of

8:19

them.

8:19

No. You have

8:19

to have a legit roster and

8:22

a big time head coach to get to a

8:24

Super Bowl junkyards. It would be a shorter window,

8:26

but you'd have a legitimate sub bowl contending

8:28

team. In my opinion, I think Aaron Rogers makes them

8:30

legitimate sometimes.

8:31

Rogers. Yes. Yeah. Ross. That's what I'm saying. Home

8:34

alone is is the

8:35

longer window with a longer opportunity, complete

8:37

the roster, make it better for a good enough to

8:39

be a team that could win with KAR

8:41

as opposed to I think you're good enough right now

8:43

with

8:43

Rogers. So and then in two years, you figure

8:45

out another quarterback. Right? Yeah. I I

8:48

But They're

8:48

not near They don't end up with

8:50

either, and that that's a that's a tough way.

8:53

I think we all agree. Iron Rogers

8:55

is the better option for the Jets. No. Those being you

8:57

do. Oh, yeah. But I'm

8:59

afraid of getting I think b

9:02

is so much better than c. I don't

9:04

I think he's I think car is much better than garage

9:06

below. I think car is much better than any

9:08

other option. They have Danny Hill. I don't know.

9:10

Whatever. Even if you think outside the box -- Right.

9:13

-- I just I think it's a clear

9:15

cut a and b. And b is gonna

9:17

be on the market in two

9:19

weeks, not even. What do you do?

9:21

Yeah. And I I've always thought I felt

9:23

like a pipe dream. I think he stayed in Green Bay.

9:25

I can't change that

9:26

field. You gotta be all over them. Yeah. But that's that's

9:28

how I feel. I'm not doing Douglas. That's right. Now apparently,

9:30

if you if you believe the reports that they're all

9:32

in. You know, that Joe Douglas might

9:35

be like, you know what? It's worth it for me. But

9:37

again, Joe Douglas has to get

9:39

this quarterback right. Has to. No. He

9:41

failed. Whichever was a fail. Yeah. You can't

9:43

fail again. You'll be gone. So

9:45

he's got a situation here where

9:47

he's gotta get it right. If he if he

9:49

goes only on Rod, and Roger stays in Green

9:52

Bay, and Karen's up somewhere else, and you end

9:54

up with name the quarterback, Jimmy

9:56

G. Baker and you're not a playoff team.

9:58

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