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and eggs, so please be advised. It's
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Spring 1891. Queen
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Liliu Okalani is watching the government cabinet
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ministers file into the Blue Room at
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Iolani Palace for a special meeting. They're
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normally a noisy bunch of blowhards. But
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today, the mood in the room is
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tense. But Liliu doesn't mind.
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They can squirm. It's been
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a couple months since her brother, the King, died,
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and she became queen of Hawaii. The
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official morning period ended yesterday. But Liliu
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is still dressed head to toe in
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black. And not just because of her
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grief. She's about to give
1:02
the cabinet ministers some hard news. So
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she's gotta give her best boss-ass bitch
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right now. And the badass
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energy is especially in need today.
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Because Liliu is the only woman,
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and the only native Hawaiian, in
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this room full of white, mustachey
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faces. Oh, god. Your
1:20
nightmare. Truly my nightmare. She
1:24
glares at the cabinet. I'm picturing
1:26
full-on Olivia Pope energy right now. You
1:28
don't want to mess with that. No,
1:30
not if you have any sense in
1:32
your body. Four years
1:34
ago, these guys forced her brother
1:36
to sign the infamous bayonet constitution,
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which stripped the monarch of important
1:40
powers and took rights away from
1:42
native Hawaiians. And when Liliu
1:44
became queen, they forced her to swear an
1:47
oath to uphold it. Like within
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hours after learning that her brother died.
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She'll never forget how terrible that
1:54
felt. She's been waiting
1:56
months to deliver some sweet, sweet
1:58
payback. And today, The is
2:00
finally the day the minister start
2:03
to seller and I'm government updates
2:05
let really. Still
2:07
deal with her and I. See
2:10
well as she's like I'm done with
2:12
you know golf. time to hand and
2:14
of resignation letters please and thank you.
2:17
The minister starts a protest. One of
2:19
them even says that what she's asking
2:21
them to do. Is illegal. but
2:23
Li Li who is like sorry
2:26
my dude I did my homework
2:28
and I can Absolutely Casey of.
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Card. We. Love a queen who
2:33
has done her research honestly. you gotta
2:35
com with those receive you do. It's
2:38
a rookie mistakes and not do it.
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That's why half the people on Real
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Housewives get an outlaw Bagley. Exactly? Now
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they may have taken away a lot
2:47
of the monarchs powers, but they for
2:49
about one loophole, the death of her
2:52
brother means that his cabinet have to
2:54
resign as the new sovereign. Really who
2:56
has the right for point their replacements
2:59
and they can damn well be sir
3:01
her new cabinet. Won't include any
3:03
of them. All
3:05
her life, Li Li who has
3:07
done what other people have expected
3:09
of her, her brother, her husband
3:12
for advisors. but now she's the
3:14
Queen and she's gonna start acting
3:16
like it. The ministers leave the
3:18
room and leaders smile for herself.
3:20
She's just jumped into the political.
3:22
Ball Pit. It's a huge step
3:25
towards taking her country back, but
3:27
Leo's. Not night. She knows the man
3:29
she just fired are powerful businessmen and
3:31
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the Kingdom of Hawaii and bought one
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5:39
king. And he became had
5:41
air but when powerful coroner's jam
5:43
through a new constitution that for
5:45
thrive in her people he couldn't
5:47
stay silent. Now of queen she
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sat on becoming a ruler. The
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Hawaiian the release of the case. The men
5:54
tend to feel her home. And on
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her. cool
6:00
All it really is is a mood. It's
6:09
a warm December night in 1892. Over
6:12
a year and a half since Li Liu gave
6:14
her old cabinet the boot and replaced them with
6:16
men she chose. She's pacing
6:18
back and forth in the living room of her
6:20
home at Washington Place. Normally, Li
6:23
Liu looks forward to the end of the
6:25
year celebrations, but this December,
6:27
she feels anything but Christmas cheer.
6:30
It's been a pretty shitty year. In
6:32
fact, her badass you're fired moment
6:35
aside, it's been a pretty rough
6:37
two years since she became queen. Her
6:39
brother, sister, and
6:41
husband John all died. Oh,
6:44
okay. I'm
6:46
not laughing at the death, but like your reaction. I
6:49
know I had the same reaction. I was like, wow.
6:51
And also this is the husband who made
6:53
her live with his mom, right? Yes.
6:57
So he died. Her brother. Well,
6:59
her brother was the king. Yeah. The
7:01
one that had the bayonet agreement and her sister. Yeah. All
7:04
gone in the last two years. Yeah.
7:08
Jesus. I know. And then as
7:10
soon as she assumed power, her list of
7:12
haters grew faster than Arisha's list of crushes.
7:14
That's a long list. That
7:16
is an impressive comparison. Thank
7:18
you so much. Now some of these
7:20
haters even had the balls to ask
7:22
for new cabinet posts. And
7:25
when Lily said, hell no, they responded
7:27
with hit pieces on her in the
7:29
papers. They claimed she was
7:31
having an affair with her Marshall. Of course
7:33
they did. Now remember, Lily
7:36
is a boss. So she
7:38
responded by threatening to send
7:40
soldiers to literally smash the
7:42
guy's printing pool. I
7:45
love that kind of energy. Yes.
7:49
But Lily who has way bigger concerns than
7:51
a couple of butt hurt little losers. Hawaii's
7:54
economy is in the pits thanks to
7:56
an unstable sugar market. American
7:59
Sugar barons can. He knew to pillage
8:01
the islands land for profit and they
8:03
still have way more political power then
8:06
Li Lu would like. And to top
8:08
it all off, it's been nearly impossible
8:10
for her to lead Hawaii under this
8:12
dumb ass bayonet constitution. From the moment
8:15
she took office, native Hawaiians begged her
8:17
to do something about it. Which
8:19
is super hard when you've lost a lot
8:21
of governing power. So basically Li Li who
8:23
needs power to get back more power and
8:26
that's a tall order. So that's like the
8:28
ones with are like we have an internship.
8:30
You need thirty years of experience
8:32
and. We'd have a. But.
8:35
Despite all the barriers, the Queen worked
8:37
with her allies to do something bag.
8:39
Write a new constitution or starters.
8:41
It would put voting power back
8:43
into the hands of Native Hawaiians
8:45
and it would give the monarch
8:47
a lot of governing power back
8:49
to. Like. Lilia would no longer
8:52
have to jump through loopholes to replace the
8:54
cabinet member in the future. The basically what
8:56
I'm saying as she got more Don't Need
8:58
You Ninety Two than I did between my
9:00
birth and now it's good for her. Now.
9:02
At this very moment, allies legislature is
9:05
considering a bill about whether to change
9:07
the constitution. If they say yes then
9:09
Lelio can be like great. I just
9:11
happy to have this lemonade right year
9:13
ago. My god, what is the see?
9:15
Joseph Stalin of my part? Just this
9:17
little thing. Lelio pacers back and forth
9:19
in her living room, hoping and praying
9:22
that the legislature sees that this is
9:24
the right thing to do and that
9:26
her enemies don't find a way to
9:28
ruin her plans. Which is of course,
9:30
the moment when bad news comes enough.
9:32
Can. Literally. A
9:35
messenger enters with a letter for illegal.
9:37
He looks at the handwriting and horse
9:40
and that said, it's a letter from
9:42
one of her allies and she just
9:44
knows I won't. Be Good News is
9:46
never good news these days. Be.
9:49
In Fairmount her thera people working
9:51
to bring her down which does
9:53
she have told him that pledges
9:56
then he says the enemy is
9:58
in the household. the
10:01
calls coming from inside
10:03
the house? Yes, I
10:05
had that same exact thought and reference.
10:07
But this is in her own hand-picked
10:09
cabinet. She chose these people. You can't
10:11
trust anybody when you're at the top.
10:13
I'm sorry, it's true. I know, and
10:15
as much as Lelie, who hates to
10:17
admit it, there's a real chance that
10:19
this warning is correct. But
10:22
there's too much at stake for her to
10:24
panic, at least outwardly. She refuses
10:26
to let anyone get into her way. So
10:29
she'll project cool, calm confidence or
10:32
go down trying. So
10:37
unfortunately for Lelie U, at the
10:39
end of December, the legislature blocked
10:41
her resolution. Oh, God. To no
10:43
one's surprise, the legislators who voted
10:46
yay were mostly Hawaiians,
10:48
while the majority nay opinion came
10:50
mostly from foreign-born members. Lelie
10:53
U's bummed, to put it mildly. But
10:55
she's not out of card tricks. She
10:57
can keep trying to persuade a bunch of lawmakers who don't
10:59
seem to want to work with her, or
11:02
say fuck it, and push
11:04
her constitution through with a royal fiat,
11:06
which is basically the queen equivalent of
11:08
being like, this is happening because I
11:10
said so. And I
11:12
think it's probably obvious which scenario we're
11:14
all hoping for, right? Yeah, because
11:17
I said so. There's a whole movie about it.
11:19
Yeah, exactly. So this is what
11:21
Native Hawaiians obviously want, too. And
11:24
Lelie U's like, I'll take one royal fiat
11:26
with a side of try me, bitch. But
11:30
she can't do it completely alone. If
11:32
she wants to bypass the legislature, she needs
11:34
her cabinet to support it, too, AKA
11:37
the cabinet that might have a mole.
11:40
But if she wants this to happen, she has no
11:42
choice. So Lelie U submits the
11:44
constitution to her cabinet to get their backing,
11:47
and reminds herself that she picked these guys
11:49
for a reason. Plus, most
11:51
had been encouraging her from day one to
11:53
write this new constitution. Because remember,
11:55
the Hawaiian people have been demanding this
11:58
for years. Mole
12:00
or not, she's sure her ministers have
12:02
to support it. Hawaiians are
12:05
getting tired of waiting for change. And
12:07
if change doesn't come soon, their patience
12:09
might run out. A
12:16
few weeks later, on January 14,
12:18
1893, Liliu is walking
12:20
through the gardens at Iolani Palace. It's
12:23
winter, so her gardenias aren't blooming, and
12:25
the whole place looks a little grim.
12:28
But Liliu's still giddy with anticipation.
12:31
She's confident that change is in the air. She's
12:34
waiting to hear from her cabinet. They're
12:36
considering the new constitution right now. And
12:39
she's sure their review is just a formality.
12:42
In fact, Liliu is so confident in
12:44
their support that she invited the Supreme
12:46
Court and members of the legislature to
12:48
celebrate in the throne room. You
12:51
know what my dad always says? Pride goeth
12:53
before the fall. That is
12:55
just a classic, waddie thing to say. Yeah,
12:57
he coined it, if you can believe it. So
13:00
as Liliu continues to walk, an aide
13:02
rushes out to her. The cabinet
13:05
is ready with their recommendation. Liliu's
13:07
like, wait, what? It's only been 30
13:09
minutes. She gave them several
13:11
hours to review the constitution. But
13:14
hey, maybe it was even easier than she
13:16
thought. Never is. I know. Liliu
13:20
blows through the double doors into the cabinet
13:22
room with nervous energy. She eyes
13:24
all four of her ministers trying to ignore that tiny
13:27
voice in the back of her head that one of
13:29
them might be a mole. But
13:31
the voice gets harder to ignore when she
13:33
sees that her ministers look anxious. In
13:36
fact, they look downright guilty. One
13:39
of them pipes up to deliver the verdict. They
13:42
haven't read the new constitution, and
13:44
they don't plan on it. Liliu
13:46
feels her face start to heat up. One
13:49
minister speaks up and says that forcing
13:51
the constitution through without a proper vote
13:53
is too revolutionary. Liliu
13:56
is like, no one was saying that
13:58
when the Hawaiian League shoved the bayonets constitution
14:00
down her brother's throat. Mm-hmm.
14:03
But the ministers dig in their heels. They
14:06
say they won't be part of something that could
14:08
throw the country upside down. They know
14:10
the sugar barons won't let this go down without a fight.
14:13
And unlike Liliu, they're scared of what
14:15
the barons might do. Liliu
14:17
can't believe this is happening. She
14:20
stands up trying to keep her cool. If these
14:22
cowards won't support her, fine. But she's
14:25
not gonna take the blame for failing to
14:27
install a new constitution. There's
14:29
a crowd of native Hawaiians gathered outside
14:31
to celebrate, and they're gonna be furious
14:34
to hear that the cabinet blocks the
14:36
new constitution. This really
14:38
freaks her ministers out, because remember, native
14:40
Hawaiians are fed up with the status
14:42
quo. Yeah. And when they hear that
14:44
there won't be a new constitution, there
14:46
could be a riot. Three
14:48
of the four ministers are so scared that they
14:51
leave. But the one minister
14:53
who stays, pleads with Liliu to change her
14:55
mind. He says the country
14:57
is in a delicate place, and if she
14:59
blames the cabinet, it could lead to violence.
15:03
Liliu pauses at the door. She
15:05
knows he's right. The last thing
15:07
she wants is for Hawaiians to get hurt. She
15:10
returns to her desk with her head high, but
15:12
inside she feels crushed. She
15:15
wanted so badly to restore her people's rights,
15:17
and passing a new constitution was her
15:19
best chance at doing that. Now,
15:22
every path forward feels like a step
15:24
toward chaos. So
15:29
that letter, warning Liliu about an
15:31
enemy, was totally right. Is
15:34
it the guy that stayed behind? Honestly,
15:36
I don't know, and I was wondering
15:38
that too. I was like, which one
15:40
of those four? Yeah. But it turns
15:42
out one of her ministers
15:44
had shown a copy of the Constitution
15:47
to Lauren Thurston. So in case you
15:49
don't remember him from part one, he's
15:51
the leader of the Hawaiian League, which
15:53
was the secret group hellbent on reigning
15:55
in the powers of the monarchy. It's
15:57
the group that put the bayonet Constitution
15:59
in place. It okay. Yeah.
16:01
No, basically earth and went ape shit
16:04
when. He found out that Li Li, who was
16:06
trying to replace the constitution. A
16:08
constitution that he forcefully
16:10
replaced. So the irony is not lost
16:13
on me or awareness more sat. That's
16:16
what Ironic was written about. I
16:18
know this man I found that he says
16:21
it's like having a cause the to say
16:23
get. Away from your head
16:25
of. So after
16:27
all this happened thursday in pressure
16:30
the rest of the ministers to
16:32
not support really with constitution. So.
16:34
Her cabinet left her high and dry. And
16:37
things go from worst to worst. Squared
16:39
was a members of the Hawaiian League
16:41
get tired a pussy footing around and
16:44
form a new group called the Committee
16:46
of Safety. Moved on the same guys,
16:48
same plan, just more public with and
16:50
dumber and a huge costs. Wow. That
16:53
really rolls off the tongue. losers. Yeah
16:55
I will say though, these guys have
16:57
up to their dame. They think that
16:59
Hawaii has become too chaotic and early
17:01
lead was rule and that this chaos
17:03
is bad for business. Which. Is
17:05
rich because they're the ones who caused
17:07
the chaotic political situation in the first
17:10
place? Of course, nobody's ever like, oh,
17:12
it's me. I'm the problem except for
17:14
Taylor Swift. Yeah, it's hypocrisy city over
17:16
here. Yeah, But because
17:19
of all of this, they want
17:21
the Us to kick Leelee you
17:23
off the throne and take control
17:25
of Hawaii by sources aka annexation.
17:27
don't think I? Now I now.
17:29
So Thurston and the American sugar
17:31
barons are counting on their strong
17:33
ties to the States to get
17:35
Hawaii analysed. But really, who can't
17:37
believe the Us would actually do
17:39
this? But at this point Hawaii
17:41
is not a seat of a
17:43
So no, they're not. Estate Hawaii
17:45
at this point is is an
17:47
independent. The kingdom so enacting them
17:50
as basically like. Forcibly
17:52
taking them over by it's their
17:54
trade partners with the U S
17:56
and. Li Li who sees them as
17:59
a quote friendly. Our hands. Why?
18:01
She doesn't believe the annexation
18:03
threat? Oh. Oh dear I. Now
18:06
and Li Li ovale is that
18:08
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18:10
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18:12
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18:14
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January seventeenth. see ninety. The
20:00
two days after Lily with cabinet
20:02
rejected her proposal for a new
20:04
constitution and the games has be
20:07
done. Really? Who is staring anxiously
20:09
out the window in the blue
20:11
room at Yoani Palace? From here
20:13
a harbor looks like business as
20:16
usual that things are far. From
20:18
normal in Honolulu. Just yesterday,
20:20
armed American marines march to the
20:22
Palace. If you remember, this
20:24
is where we started. Empire was. I
20:27
gonna say didn't take long were they just waiting? On
20:29
boats other source scatter them in
20:31
the afternoon. So
20:33
no one thing really. you couldn't
20:36
believe what happened just happened. Right
20:38
now there are American soldiers camped
20:40
outside Lilly who's government building. But
20:42
here's the part that gets even
20:44
more baffling. Be truth, weren't sent
20:46
by the Us government and this
20:48
isn't the Us agreeing to annex
20:50
Hawaii. Oh, is using right? That
20:53
is confusing What's going on in?
20:55
Okay so here's the deal. When
20:57
the Sugar bear and heard legally
20:59
you was still fighting for her
21:01
new constitution. They were like,
21:03
ah, lap robes. Course they
21:05
did! They went to the American
21:08
minister to Hawaii he basically an ambassador
21:10
for him and they were like can
21:12
you help us stage a coup for
21:14
fun These turns out this guy is
21:16
friends with or stand and I guess
21:18
was like yeah no problem I'll send
21:20
some guys with guns no questions asked.
21:23
who is like Blimey Freebase? All this.
21:25
Sugar I guess for help I yelled. Yeah,
21:28
it's like, take these decks lesser, all
21:30
that stuff, you can't So that and
21:32
and his cronies did their thing with
21:34
the help of over one hundred and
21:37
fifty highly trained and armed. Soldiers.
21:40
And the sept for the palace the
21:42
Sugar bear and announced that Lelio was
21:44
out and thirst and and co are
21:46
in. And one of thirst.
21:48
Since guys, a man named Sanford
21:50
Door is declared President. Now. Dole
21:53
as a member of the Committee
21:55
of safety aka costs. And
21:58
yes, he's really. to
22:00
the guy who started what is now
22:02
the Dole Food Group, the Dole Plantation,
22:04
the Pineapples! And Dole Whip, the tastiest
22:06
treat around, which I'm now very pissed
22:09
I love. I'm so glad I don't
22:11
like it, but I do love pineapples.
22:13
I did not see that Dole coming. I
22:16
know. Now,
22:18
Liliu can't believe she could be caught
22:20
so off guard. And now she has
22:22
a choice to make. Surrender to Dole
22:24
and the Provisional Government, or
22:26
let her people die fighting. She
22:28
has 700 troops, compared to
22:30
just 150 American soldiers in Honolulu. Well,
22:34
if the game risk has caught me
22:36
anything, it's that 700 should beat 150. Yeah,
22:42
I mean, even if you haven't played the game
22:44
risk, that's what people should. I'm
22:47
dying in a war, okay? It's
22:49
all about world domination. Right,
22:52
right. Well, Liliu doesn't want any Hawaiians to
22:54
die, and she doesn't want to pick a
22:56
fight with the United States. She
22:58
might win this battle, but there's a real chance
23:00
she would lose the war. Liliu
23:03
finally sits at her desk and pulls out a pen. They've
23:06
given her a letter of surrender, all prepped
23:08
and ready for her to sign. Oh, these
23:10
fuckers. But she can't
23:12
quite bring herself to do it, because
23:14
maybe there's another option. There's
23:17
no way to reverse the coup by herself. But
23:19
if she can appeal to the US government, if
23:22
she tattles on Thurston and Dole for going
23:24
rogue, maybe the US will
23:26
reinstate her. And then bam, she's
23:28
queen again. Liliu scribbles
23:30
a few notes on the document. Her ministers
23:33
look at each other like, has she lost
23:35
it? But Liliu's only play
23:37
here is to buy some time. She
23:40
writes a new surrender letter that says she'll,
23:42
quote, yield to the superior force of the
23:44
United States of America. Now it's
23:46
a roll of the dice whether America will hold
23:48
all the steps down, but it's a bet she
23:51
has to make. Otherwise, her
23:53
time as queen is over, and
23:56
Hawaii's fate will be left in the hands
23:58
of the sugar barons. They
24:00
sound like Disney villains at this point. It's
24:08
November 1893, almost a year
24:10
since American Marines landed in
24:13
Honolulu, and since Lee Lee Uu
24:15
sent her revised surrender letter to the U.S. government.
24:18
She's sitting impatiently in the parlor of
24:20
the Hawaiian Hotel in Honolulu, waiting for
24:22
the new American minister for Hawaii to
24:25
arrive. This isn't the guy
24:27
who ordered the Marines to her doorstep without
24:29
authorization. That guy was
24:31
fired and sent back to the States.
24:33
Too late. They
24:35
should have fired him before all this happened. I
24:38
know. Now, so far, Lee Lee
24:40
Uu's long shot plan actually paid off, at
24:42
least in part. President Cleveland launched
24:44
a full investigation into the coup, but
24:46
it's been 11 months, and Lee Lee
24:48
Uu is still waiting for an answer.
24:51
And today, she's hoping she'll finally
24:53
get one. And
24:55
that is, yes, we'll absolutely restore your
24:58
Queenhood and crush, dole, and thirst into
25:00
smithereens. Unofficial letterhead. Lee
25:04
Lee Uu is optimistic. The Marines who
25:06
landed in Honolulu may have been American,
25:08
but the actual United States government did
25:10
not authorize an invasion of Hawaii. So,
25:13
maybe the odds of this investigation are in
25:15
her favor. Still, nothing's
25:17
a done deal until it's done.
25:21
Finally, the American minister, Albert
25:23
S. Willis, enters. He
25:25
tells Lee Lee Uu that the United States could
25:27
not be more sorry. President
25:30
Cleveland himself sincerely regrets what happened
25:32
with that whole coup thing. He
25:35
also says that it's clear that Lee Lee
25:37
Uu and Hawaii were deeply wronged. He
25:40
really didn't need an investigation to realize this,
25:42
but whatever, at least he came to the
25:44
right conclusion. Yeah? And
25:46
then, Willis gives her the news she's been so
25:48
desperate to hear. President
25:50
Cleveland wants to help put her back in power. He
25:53
agrees that she was overthrown illegally. And
25:57
the U.S. isn't interested in being part of
25:59
a shady too right now. Which I
26:01
gotta say, history really can surprise you
26:04
sometimes. It really can. I was
26:07
literally biting my nails like, oh here we go. I
26:09
know. Alright Cleveland. Yeah, and Leleu
26:12
can't believe what she's hearing. But
26:14
unfortunately, Willis isn't done.
26:17
Willis tells Leleu he needs some assurances
26:19
before they help put her back in
26:21
power. She raises an eyebrow.
26:23
What does he have in mind?
26:26
Willis asks if she would grant amnesty
26:28
to Dole and the other conspirators if
26:30
she's restored to power. Got a lot
26:32
of fucking nerve. I know. And she
26:35
knows what she wants to say. She's
26:37
like, hell to the no. But
26:39
these days, she never knows who's listening.
26:42
Someone could be taking notes in the other room
26:44
right now. So, Leleu
26:46
plays politician and tells Willis
26:48
she will consult with her
26:51
cabinet before deciding on amnesty.
26:53
Nice and diplomatic, right? Mm-hmm.
26:55
But Willis isn't buying it. He wants
26:58
to hear what Leleu would do. Heat
27:01
floods her face. She
27:03
doesn't like being pushed like this. And
27:05
her anger gets the better of her. She
27:08
speaks honestly and says the punishment is not
27:10
just up to her. Hawaii's laws
27:13
say that anyone found guilty of treason
27:15
will be put to death. Ooh.
27:19
And I gotta say, I didn't take her for
27:21
much of a heads-able role, girly. I mean, she's
27:23
been trying to keep the peace this whole time,
27:25
you know? We all have our limits. I
27:27
know. I don't hate it at all. And
27:29
Willis seems shocked by this. It
27:32
clearly was not what he expected her to say. He
27:35
asks Leleu if she plans to carry out
27:37
this law. She tells him that
27:39
if those little co-starters want amnesty, she'll
27:41
agree to it. But they
27:44
will have to give up their property
27:47
and leave Hawaii forever. Mm. Love it.
27:49
Yeah. Honestly, though, like for a group
27:52
of men who pulled this shit twice?
27:54
Yeah. I feel like banishment is pretty
27:56
reasonable. I agree. And honestly, how do
27:59
you even walk around that with your head up.
28:01
They should be ashamed of themselves. They should.
28:04
Now Willis tells her he'll relay her decision
28:06
to President Cleveland. Liliu tries
28:08
to act confident as she walks out,
28:10
but inside she has a feeling she
28:12
just fumbled the ball and
28:14
her best chance at saving her kingdom.
28:20
After that first meeting, Liliu realizes
28:22
she has to backtrack. The
28:24
dreaded Take These Baxis. We've
28:27
heard of it. No, we don't
28:29
do it. No, we don't. But she
28:31
decides to make a more official statement
28:33
and tell the Americans she would pardon
28:36
Dole and his coup mates. Now
28:38
it's better for Hawaii if she gets back to the
28:40
throne and she has to do what's best for
28:43
her people. And doing a
28:45
Take These Baxis actually works. Kind
28:47
of. The Americans keep
28:49
their promise and tell Sanford Dole and
28:52
the provisional government to stand down. But
28:54
that's about as far as the good news goes. Because
28:57
Dole straight up
28:59
refuses. He even
29:01
has the balls to tell the U.S.
29:04
that they have no right to meddle
29:06
in Hawaii. Oh my god. This jabroni
29:09
has got literally
29:11
nothing but nerve. It's
29:14
so true. Like you come into my
29:16
house, make up
29:18
all the rules, fuck everything
29:20
up, then refuse to face
29:22
the consequences of your own
29:24
actions? God, the audacity. And
29:28
if you can't tell by now, basically
29:30
Dole took over Hawaii on the backs
29:32
of American Marines, then flip-flopped and told
29:35
the U.S. to go to hell. Leleu
29:38
is crushed, but she doesn't give
29:40
up. She spends the
29:43
next year meeting with supporters and appealing to
29:45
the U.S. government. Eventually the
29:47
U.S. tells her they won't intervene, but
29:50
they do leave one opportunity on the table.
29:52
They hint that they also won't
29:55
intervene if, oh, I don't know,
29:57
Hawaiians decide to take their country back by
29:59
force. Now
30:02
again, history is a bundle of
30:04
surprises. Yes it is. But the
30:07
thought of war turns Liliu's stomach.
30:09
How can she protect Hawaiians while asking them to
30:12
fight for her? But maybe she
30:14
won't have to ask. A few months
30:16
later, Liliu hears through the grapevine that
30:18
her supporters are planning to fight back
30:20
against Dole's government with force. This
30:23
whole time they've been forming militias,
30:26
gathering weapons, and making plans in
30:28
secret. The people
30:30
she's fought to protect for years are
30:32
now trying to repay the favor. But
30:35
whether they can pull it off is anyone's
30:37
guess. Almost
30:45
two years later, on January 16, 1895, 56-year-old Liliu is
30:47
at home at Washington Place,
30:52
lying in bed, feeling like a
30:54
zombie. She doesn't sleep much these
30:57
days. She's inspiring trying to
30:59
figure out her next move. Because
31:01
that big Hawaiian uprising that was supposed to
31:03
put her back in power, it
31:06
totally failed. Oh come on.
31:08
I know. 10 days ago,
31:10
her supporters rose up against the provisional
31:13
government. But Dole had spies
31:15
in the militia, and the whole plan
31:17
was exposed before they even really got
31:19
started. Hawaiians were
31:21
hurt, and a dozen or so were killed.
31:24
The rest of the militia men were thrown in jail.
31:27
Now, Liliu is left wondering what's to
31:29
become of her. It's
31:31
not clear how much she knew about the plans. But
31:34
it doesn't matter. She's the figurehead of
31:36
this cause, so she's pretty sure she's
31:39
the next target. Lying
31:41
in bed, anxious, and paranoid? Very
31:44
relatable, I gotta say. It's me right
31:46
now. Liliu
31:49
finally gets up. She's not
31:51
gonna get any more sleep no matter how hard she
31:53
tries. Plus, tossing and turning
31:56
won't solve anything. But
31:58
just as she's starting to get dressed... She
32:00
hears a carriage pull up outside. She
32:02
heads to the window and sees two men walking up
32:04
the front path of her home. It's
32:06
the deputy marshal and one of his captains.
32:10
Li Li-U's mind races. This
32:12
could go a lot of ways, most
32:14
of them bad. But by this
32:16
point, we know Li Li-U is going to
32:18
face her problems head-on. She
32:20
doesn't even take time to change out of her mourning dress.
32:23
She walks down the staircase like the queen
32:25
she still is. The
32:28
deputy marshal and captain are already in the
32:30
parlor, speaking with her lady and waiting. Li
32:32
Li-U smiles and invites them in, trying
32:35
to look legal. But
32:37
the deputy shakes his head. They're not
32:39
here to visit. They're here
32:41
with a warrant for her arrest.
32:43
Well, she should just pull a leaf out of Dold's book and be like,
32:45
no. Yeah, no, I refuse.
32:48
Get the fuck out of my house. Exactly. But
32:51
unfortunately, Li Li-U doesn't
32:53
do that. Instead, she tries
32:55
to stay calm and then the deputy says
32:57
it's time to leave. Li
33:00
Li-U nods her head and leaves without a
33:02
fight. She's taken across the
33:04
street to Iolone Palace and placed under
33:06
house arrest. The queen
33:08
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after her arrest the Queen is
34:18
an Iolani palace staring at a
34:20
long document She thinks about
34:22
how it wasn't all that long ago that she
34:25
was in her office working on a new Constitution
34:27
for her people now. She's
34:29
being forced to sign her abdication
34:32
After Liliu was arrested she learned that she
34:35
was accused of harboring weapons at her home
34:38
But Liliu denied it saying that if weapons
34:40
were stored somewhere on her property She had
34:42
no knowledge of it and
34:44
now this document makes official what has
34:46
already been in effect for two years
34:49
Liliu is no longer Queen of
34:51
Hawaii She doesn't want
34:53
to sign it obviously in fact
34:56
She'd rather die than sign it But
34:59
she's been told that if she signs dole
35:01
will release the Hawaiians who tried to revolt
35:04
and if she doesn't She fears that
35:06
some might lose their lives. I'm
35:08
sorry somebody needs to clunk this asshole
35:11
on the head Just the fact that
35:13
he's like become this pseudo leader who
35:15
seems like it's to hold these Hawaiians
35:19
someone should clunk him with one of his
35:21
own pineapples. Yes, I'll show them. Yes, that's
35:23
justice I know, but it doesn't happen
35:25
sadly Liliu
35:27
reads the document again and Plunches
35:30
the pen in her hand she
35:32
tries to keep it together, but it's
35:34
hard Her eyes keep drifting
35:36
to the same words But
35:38
the late Hawaiian monarchy is
35:41
finally and forever ended if
35:43
she signs this now There's no going
35:46
back She looks back at
35:48
the abdication and breathed out a long
35:50
sigh What choice does
35:52
she have really she can't have
35:54
more blood on her hands Liliu shakes
35:56
as she dips her pen in the inkwell
36:00
She fights back tears and signs her
36:02
name. But even in
36:04
this moment of defeat, Liliu holds
36:06
on to one last act of defiance.
36:09
She was told to sign the document with her married
36:11
name, Liliu O'Kalani Dominus,
36:14
and she does. But Liliu was
36:16
crowned queen under one name only, Liliu
36:19
O'Kalani. So to her,
36:21
this means her signature is technically void
36:24
and that she's still the true queen
36:26
of Hawaii. Love it. Void
36:28
or not, Liliu is out of power
36:31
officially. And she only has one
36:33
final trick up her sleeve to save her homeland.
36:36
But it's by far the longest
36:38
shot yet. Things
36:44
are looking pretty bleak for Liliu.
36:46
By signing the abdication oath, she renounced
36:49
all claims and rights to the Hawaiian
36:51
throne. But Dole isn't done with
36:53
her yet. He strips the
36:55
palace of all of its royal
36:57
decorations. Then he converts
36:59
the throne room into a courtroom
37:01
and puts Liliu on trial for
37:03
mis-prison of treason, which I've never
37:06
heard of. Is he just making
37:08
up things? Yeah, so
37:10
basically that's treason for knowing treason
37:12
was afoot and not doing anything
37:14
to stop it. It
37:16
just kind of sounds like conspiracy for treason. Isn't that
37:18
an easier way to say it? Look, I don't mean
37:20
to just keep harping on this, but why is nobody
37:22
being like, hey, why don't
37:25
you go plant some pineapples idiot and get
37:27
out of here? I
37:29
honestly was wondering the same thing. Like does
37:31
no one care? Overthrow this guy.
37:34
But Liliu is found guilty
37:36
and put under house arrest. She's
37:39
utterly humiliated, but
37:41
she still holds on to hope that her story
37:43
isn't over yet. Almost
37:48
two years into her five year
37:50
sentence, Liliu is fully released from
37:52
home confinement. She's
37:54
surprised when she's handed a full pardon signed
37:57
by Sanford Dole. He
37:59
is now the president. of the new independent
38:01
republic of Hawaii. For Liliu,
38:03
it's a bittersweet moment. On
38:05
the one hand, she's finally free. On
38:08
the other hand, the words President Sanford
38:11
Dole make her want to throw up.
38:13
Her and me both. And me. Yeah.
38:16
And now that Liliu is released, she's
38:18
supposed to chill and fade into history.
38:20
But she's like, screw that. She
38:22
starts planning a trip to the United States
38:24
to see some relatives. At least
38:26
that's what everyone thinks. Her
38:29
real mission is to visit the White House
38:31
and attempt to win back her crown with
38:33
one last Hail Mary. In
38:35
January of 1897, just a
38:37
few months after Liliu's release, the former
38:39
queen makes an appearance in Washington
38:42
as planned. She meets
38:44
with President Cleveland, but after 15 minutes of
38:46
forced small talk, it's clear to her that
38:48
the days of the U.S. supporting Hawaii
38:50
and her are over. RIP
38:54
is a time history was surprising us.
38:56
I really miss that. Yeah, that
38:58
was short lived. I'm shocked. It
39:01
was. So now Liliu has to get back on
39:03
a ship to Hawaii, knowing that even though she
39:05
did everything she could, she
39:08
will likely never be queen again.
39:11
It sounds like it's time for another coup. Ha
39:14
ha ha. It's
39:20
August 2nd, 1898. A
39:23
year and a half after President Cleveland was
39:25
like, don't call us, we'll call you. Liliu
39:28
stands at the bow of a steamship scanning
39:30
the dark coastline of Oahu as they pull
39:32
into port. It's just
39:35
after midnight, and she's relieved to be home
39:37
again. She spent the last
39:39
year and a half trying to show influential
39:41
Americans that she and all Hawaiians
39:43
are worth fighting for. But
39:45
in reality, she was holding out hope for a
39:47
miracle, and none came to pass.
39:50
And it gets worse, because just a
39:52
few months after Liliu met with President
39:54
Cleveland, a new US president
39:56
was elected, William McKinley. He-
40:00
Sides that the Us will actually
40:02
take away over. After all though,
40:04
he's forced a bill through Congress
40:06
and it passed with flying colors.
40:09
Mckinley. Signed it on July seventh,
40:11
Eighty Ninety Eight, and Hawaii. He became
40:13
a part of the United States. That's.
40:15
It. Game. Over that's like me being
40:17
like you know why? I
40:20
want killer. On a good
40:22
aside, and I own Canada? Not leak. Who
40:25
are? you Do have the same power
40:27
of the. Were
40:30
virtually indiscernible, It's really are The
40:32
Dell. Leadership
40:34
Pulls up to the dock, she
40:36
spots the familiar Hawaiian flag flapping
40:39
proudly over the government building and
40:41
her heart sinks. She knows it
40:43
won't be long until it's replaced
40:45
by the American Stars and Stripes.
40:48
Her thoughts spiral. Is there something
40:50
else she could have done with
40:52
every scenario arrives at the same
40:55
conclusion. Failure. Chino
40:57
so never recover from this. She
40:59
plays that her people will. Then
41:02
really, who sees that hundreds of
41:04
her people are waiting for her
41:06
on land? but instead of cheers,
41:08
they're dead. Silence She can't tell
41:11
are they angry? Lelio blurts out
41:13
the only thing she can think
41:15
of to cut the tension. Aloha.
41:19
Leaders greeting breaks the damn a full
41:21
lot of a low Hawes and Sears.
41:24
Breakout others was immortal.
41:26
They're not angry at
41:28
her self. Use her.
41:31
He needn't he hated anymore. She
41:33
lived here is mean down her
41:35
cheeks. She raises her head high.
41:39
Back on the Hawaiian soil,
41:41
she lost her crown. She
41:43
lost her country. Is
41:46
she never lost her dignity and
41:48
hearing. The tears of her people she
41:50
knows, the. spirit of her flight
41:52
will live on long after season
42:02
So, Arisha, there we have it. The
42:05
story of Queen Liliu
42:07
O'Kalani, Hawaii's first and
42:09
only queen. So before
42:12
we dissect all of this, here is
42:14
a little wrap up to her truly
42:16
giant story. So Liliu
42:18
worked to preserve a historic network of
42:21
trails on the islands. She
42:23
ended up publishing her memoir, which was
42:25
the first book published by a native
42:28
Hawaiian woman. And in
42:30
1909, she established a trust for children
42:32
in need and dedicated her estate
42:34
to helping Hawaii's children. She
42:37
died in 1917 and was given a royal burial. In
42:42
1959, Hawaii voted to become the 50th
42:44
U.S. state. And in
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1993, President Clinton signed a formal
42:48
apology for the 1893 coup, acknowledging
42:50
that quote,
42:53
the native Hawaiian people never directly
42:56
relinquished to the United States their
42:58
claims to their inherent sovereignty. But
43:00
we're still not giving you your
43:02
country back. The United States doesn't need
43:04
50. Right. Yeah. Now,
43:07
although the Hawaiian kingdom may have
43:10
ended, Hawaiians didn't quit. There are
43:12
many today who continue to advocate
43:14
for an independent Hawaii. And
43:16
you know what? I support them. I fully
43:18
support them. I don't know why anybody wouldn't,
43:20
especially in this day and age. We know everything
43:22
we know about like the world. Why
43:25
wouldn't we want that? I know. So
43:28
do you have any any
43:30
final thoughts? Well, based off the
43:32
wrap up, I got to say she's a better
43:35
woman than I, because I would have spent
43:37
the rest of my life living in Petty
43:39
City. Would not be
43:41
establishing fuck all for anyone. But
43:46
I mean, it's a heartbreaking story. These stories are
43:48
always so sad because she seemed so alone and
43:50
always up against these people
43:57
that had no right going up against her. a
44:00
lot and it infuriates me.
44:02
This dole guy, I
44:05
have to go burn all my cans of pineapple now.
44:09
Yeah, I think for me of all the stories
44:11
we've told so far on this show, this one
44:13
like really gets me in
44:15
the field mostly because she seemed
44:17
to care so much about the people
44:20
of Hawaii and they seem to care
44:22
so much for her and just something
44:24
about that like camaraderie of them. I
44:26
don't know, it just really gets me
44:28
like it's really sweet that they stood
44:30
by her through all of it. I just I
44:33
really love that part of the story. Well,
44:35
especially in this day and age, it seems so
44:37
easy for people to turn on anybody
44:40
that's in a leadership position, not that it's
44:42
misplaced, but just I think
44:44
that it's really that she did everything she could
44:47
with what she had. It wasn't
44:49
enough, but they recognize that instead of just
44:51
being like, Oh, you screwed us
44:53
over. We hate you. I know. She
44:55
says a lot about her and her people. Paradise
45:26
Lost, part two of our two
45:28
part series on Queen Liliu O'Kilani.
45:30
We use many sources when researching
45:32
our stories, but we especially recommend
45:34
Lost Kingdom by Julia Flynn-Sylor and
45:37
Hawaii Stories by Hawaii's Queen by
45:39
Liliu O'Kilani. You can
45:41
follow us, your host, on socials, at
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Arisha Stidmore-Williams and at Brooke Ziffrin. I'm
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Brooke Ziffrin. And I'm Arisha Stidmore-Williams.
45:49
Andrew Barbo wrote this episode, story
45:51
editing by Michaela Bly and sound
45:53
design by Sam Ada. Our
45:56
cultural consultant was Noah Hanohano-Dolan.
45:58
Our associate producer is Hannah
46:00
Ward. Our coordinating producer is Sarah
46:02
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Julie Magruder are our producers and
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our executive producers are Jenny Lower
46:10
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