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So here we are in the brand new 2024 redesigned Hyundai Kona. Last
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Kona we drove was the N that
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we had in a comparison with the GR Corolla because that
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was the closest thing Hyundai was selling to an actual hot
0:13
hatch here because we don't get the i30. Right.
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So here we are in the updated Kona. It's bigger and
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different all around. You know,
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redesigning things just for the sake of
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redesign without making them better isn't
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better. So you're saying you're a
0:29
fan. Okay.
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All right. For $33,645 as the limited trim
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level. Loaded
0:37
up except no all wheel drive. This
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is good for transporting
0:42
humans. Yes. Yes. Cars
0:45
look a certain way because they transport humans.
0:47
Yes. Cars also sell or
0:50
do not sell because of their
0:52
style. You're easing your way into something here.
0:54
I can feel it. I can feel you just kind of
0:56
easing your way into a cold. Do
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I start with styling or do I start with power? I
1:02
should tell you about the power. It's
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a 1.6 liter turbo inline four with 190 horsepower
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and 195 pound feet of torque. And
1:10
it it moves the car. It's adequate.
1:13
There's an eight speed transmission in here that is fine. Excellent.
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No problems there. Because 190 horsepower is enough to
1:18
have this car do what it does. Let me
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give you a couple of interesting stats. Zero to
1:23
60 in this. It's not look, that's not the
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deciding stat. It has a zero to 60. But
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zero to 60 in this is just over seven
1:29
seconds. So that gives you a frame of
1:32
reference that there are minivans faster.
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Okay. This is not fast, but
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it's turbo. So there's that mid range. It put grunt
1:38
a little bit. I don't want to say punch grunt
1:40
a little bit. It's got a little bit of turbo
1:42
things in the middle. Yeah. So that's
1:44
good. What you
1:46
don't want is the lower models. True.
1:49
Which have the non turbo two liter and 147
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horsepower with a grand zero to 60. 60
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in the mid nines. The mid
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nines. do we stop measuring
2:01
zero to sixtyism? Well, that's a benchmark
2:03
when they get, when the times get
2:05
too high. Well, my point is though,
2:07
when you're close to double digits, it's
2:10
starting to be borderline dangerous. Right. Everything
2:12
is faster than you at that point.
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So at least this is enough. My
2:16
thoughts are just market and
2:18
how many other little SUVs or
2:20
hot hatches that are right on the border, right
2:23
on the cusp, trying
2:25
to get your money. Yep. Because these are not
2:27
necessarily lost leaders. These are the ones trying to
2:29
pull money into the company. They're trying to sell
2:32
enough of them, which means they have to be
2:34
appealing enough to appeal to enough customers and be
2:36
good and meet everybody's need at a certain price
2:39
point and discuss that.
2:41
But there's a lot of competition. Yes.
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There's so much competition that
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I'm even thinking about the
2:49
Volkswagen Taus, which I loathe.
2:51
It's in this segment. The test is not even
2:54
a kind word for the Taus. True. You're
2:56
not a fan. And I would almost suggest
2:58
looking at the Taus over the new Kona.
3:01
Wow. Wow. Okay. All right.
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The Kona checks everything
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off the list. Okay.
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Surprisingly good. Yes. Well, my
3:13
son sat back there and he's a tree
3:15
now. They've reduced the actual thickness of the
3:18
front seat. Something we've raged about a lot
3:20
of automakers. They've made these really thin and
3:22
they are both heated and ventilated and it
3:24
gives you more leg room. This guy got
3:26
a longer wheel base in the prior Kona
3:28
thinner seats. So you have usable
3:30
back. Okay. I sat back
3:32
there. I really thought it was pretty great. I
3:34
wasn't cramped anywhere. I
3:39
cannot praise Hyundai's warranty enough.
3:41
It's brilliant. And you feel
3:43
like you're going to get a lot for your money
3:45
in here. The steering
3:48
wheel heater has two settings, not
3:50
just one. The seats will
3:53
cook food. They get so hot. You're
3:55
right. Yes. You're going to feel like
3:57
I got a lot for my money.
4:00
It doesn't feel interesting, it feels good. The
4:03
only other thing that I can think of, and I mean
4:05
thing, Also
4:07
checked all the boxes. 2001
4:09
to 2005, Pontiac Aztec. That
4:13
also checked all the boxes.
4:15
Everything we wanted it to do. Plus it had a
4:18
tint. Pint doesn't
4:20
even have a tint. What are we talking about?
4:23
But there's too many cooks in the kitchen for that
4:25
one, and too many cooks in the kitchen for this
4:27
one. This is designed by,
4:29
not committee, but I think everybody
4:31
had input. And it dilutes
4:33
it. There is no real driving experience to
4:36
be had. And it's not compelling enough for me
4:38
to recommend this over something else. It's even like
4:40
the towels, and I hate the towels. It
4:42
is thrown in, it is like the worst acting
4:45
performance ever from an actor. Org is made out
4:47
of a third. I
4:49
mean you did some perfume ad for
4:51
Japan. Yeah, lucrative. They are lucrative.
4:54
You didn't pay attention to your core audience.
4:57
And that's what I feel like Hyundai is dealing
4:59
with the new Kona. Interesting, okay. The last Kona
5:01
was a hot hatch. This one is
5:04
a hot hatch. Oh, that's
5:06
interesting. Alright, I see it. Because
5:09
proportionally speaking, again, this fits humans. It looks like it
5:11
fits humans, but I can't determine if this is supposed
5:13
to be a hot hatch, or now a little bit
5:15
of an SUV. Which is it?
5:17
You have put it so succinctly
5:20
for this category that
5:22
appeals to people. When you open the
5:24
door, you just stop walking. You're right.
5:26
You don't sit down in it. You don't climb
5:28
up into it. You just stop walking. This
5:31
is the definition of that. But
5:34
you look around the car and I think,
5:36
okay, Hyundai with their Elantra. Not
5:38
everybody liked that Elantra. I thought it was actually successful,
5:40
but they changed it, they updated it, and the new
5:43
Elantra looks even better. A lot of
5:45
what Hyundai style has been setting their direction, they
5:47
have done a great job. It
5:49
looks like leaders in their category. Except
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for this. It's like all
5:54
the worst style elements littering the
5:56
design studio floor, were tacked onto
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this one. What! Loving them little
6:01
bit of enjoy this. Let's put
6:03
that are we all the house.
6:06
I see robotic. Sort.
6:09
Of a cyber truck. I
6:11
see headlights in a weird spot
6:13
as fender flares that are directional,
6:16
but they terminate strangely. Vigilance is
6:18
too much. so is this a
6:20
policy? Beers a low hatchback. Really?
6:22
Tell us. Seventy
6:25
Six Nights. Yeah, the worst part is
6:27
when you see the Tv version of
6:30
this because the plastics and your body
6:32
cladding that takes the visual mass out
6:34
of this actually is painted on the
6:36
Tv version and you're going to have
6:38
to turn away. Your
6:41
such a fan? I am I
6:43
a lot of around? Yes! Okay,
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look this beats the towels in
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every category. From door slam to
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Howard drives to amenities, everything about
6:51
it I would prefer the perfect.
6:55
House looks better. And
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with. The
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last one was and different and hi hats. Off
7:04
to bed all day long over this one Interests This does
7:06
not look compelling. It does not look fun to drive. It
7:08
does not look like. Any. That
7:12
transports humans who does it well. It does
7:15
that well done. Well defined. I take I
7:17
live for are y'all no absolutes I was
7:19
subject know you have styling that I do
7:21
not so I get that we all know
7:24
starting subjective, visitors or folks water miss right
7:26
now many of whom probably bonner Kona who
7:28
are raging about how awesome they think it
7:30
looks so that most people will be a
7:33
letter. Wonderful feel. Same thing I did he
7:35
receive would be Mw absolutely that will exit.
7:37
Turns out you were wrong about the be
7:39
him that he beaver to they're selling like
7:41
crazy. There will be a market for
7:44
this. I agree. it is not a compelling design
7:46
on it's own. The thing I'm very impressed by
7:48
though the not that I cannot overstate is there's
7:50
an actual a lot of value for money. a
7:52
little game we play my family or don't you
7:54
wish you one of us is it. would people
7:57
claiming to press corps all his time in a
7:59
press her but. The car
8:01
costs. Okay okay so I tell my
8:03
son's gotten pretty good out at my wife's good at
8:05
it. They they guess what the car cost. Both.
8:08
Of them. Thought. This cost mid
8:10
forties. Really? And
8:12
it's thirty four thousand dollars?
8:14
loaded? Once. You actually start playing
8:16
with it, you start to go okay. I
8:19
see how this is his thirty's not okay,
8:21
what else but the the first blush and
8:23
the actual interaction and the amount of tech
8:25
that of has in here. there is a
8:28
lot of value here. I am actually incredibly
8:30
impressed with all the stuff you get. Okay
8:32
yes and if you are a person shopping
8:34
for driving experience meaning I commute and I
8:37
need a commute device this does Everything is
8:39
a dreamer. All of it and doesn't well
8:41
and it has usable back seats in a
8:43
small package. Now the thing. the. Last corner
8:46
struggled with is it was. It was
8:48
small. It was gonna he
8:50
was interesting but it was small. true. Travis has
8:52
become more usable and I think that people that
8:54
are by must keep in mind the last com
8:56
haven't in this one doesn't. And be
8:58
well to this one doesn't Right now, it's just
9:00
this: I don't think I've gotten to the end
9:02
version. the and labor underscore yet they made this
9:05
is an easy first and then figure out how
9:07
to make it an internal combustion engine car. That's
9:09
how they desire. Yeah, which is very interesting, but
9:11
this was clearly like they took the last that
9:13
a when. how do we make it better? To
9:15
your points for the people inside, there's a lot
9:18
of really good style here as far as the
9:20
inside is concerned. I have one. One
9:23
critique on the interior. That.
9:26
I that I feel real mixed about. Paul.
9:28
I have been confused by many manufacturers
9:30
choices of how to interact with the
9:33
transmission. A lot of it has moved
9:35
from the old school stuff and appear
9:37
on the calm down to the center
9:39
console we've had. Dials,
9:41
We've had bowling balls and that hockey bottom had
9:43
it all. We've had enough with said i have
9:45
sorrow we have the I have sour on all
9:47
of these things. Sundays decided. You know what? that
9:49
takes up space? We. Should put it
9:51
on the column, which I actually applaud. Of
9:55
funny that this. It's
9:57
this thing that looks like. The
10:00
road out phone design shoved into the side
10:02
of the column. And because you have D
10:04
and and are I've got three on the
10:06
tree. Again, I got three on a train.
10:08
Do it. It works in mine and I
10:10
appreciate the space savings and getting off center
10:13
console when applaud. Hundred for that's. Why
10:15
is it this big, flat, bulky design? It
10:17
looks like he does this like a phone
10:20
shoved into the council's them in. I sat
10:22
down here was like, what am I looking
10:24
at? What is that drive? Yes, but ago?
10:26
Reverse it. exciting, park, it works or nine
10:29
and elsewhere. If I just saw it at
10:31
what it'd be a third of that's how
10:33
you can be a quarter that size stock
10:35
look. You're absolutely right. The interior, though. none
10:38
of the style. the shapes match anything going
10:40
on in the exterior. That actually true, that's
10:42
what it, really. There's too much committee here
10:44
going. On this was designed to
10:47
check boxes and it will sell
10:49
because people realize from great value
10:51
it does have good powered I
10:53
get so much Value is well
10:55
built. I like being in here.
10:57
it's comfortable. Yes, To
10:59
home than. Except. And wonder
11:02
if a style changes coming in? Because.
11:04
This is revolting to my eye assisting
11:07
Okay, this is off putting a give
11:09
example these ah Rosie on the side
11:11
of the car that unfolds seem to
11:13
start of a lower rocket the front
11:16
and engels through the sheet metal past
11:18
the back door and up over the
11:20
spoiler that does wrap around the car.
11:23
as interesting except the fender flares. Or.
11:25
Jarring. They try to make it an S
11:27
U V, but nothing about this is an
11:29
off roader note. Also, There's. So
11:32
many mixed messages. stylistically speaking, I
11:34
don't know what I'm looking at
11:36
and nothing relates to something else.
11:38
We've got the The Terminator, The
11:40
Knight Rider Cyber Truck, Whatever other
11:42
a solid beam of Roger might
11:44
as well turn the lights read.
11:47
The. knight rider tricks or something i don't
11:49
know and with bring made his back will
11:51
try to combine next defenders the headlights or
11:54
not which think they are either way on
11:56
the sides of the car or down low
11:58
same with a tail lights It's not cohesive,
12:00
and for me that's off-putting. I don't know who
12:02
designed the car, but I think it was committee,
12:04
and I doubt that anybody at Hyundai would say,
12:07
yeah, that's my design, I did that. This from
12:09
the same company that did the Santa Cruz. Santa
12:11
Cruz looks great! Santa Cruz looks really cool, yeah.
12:13
And some of these same themes are on that,
12:15
but just on better. How did we mess
12:18
up on this? Proportion. The
12:20
problem is, when AI can make a
12:23
better looking car than the humans, that
12:25
means you screwed up. Did
12:28
you ask AI to fix this? I should.
12:31
The humans should be able to create beauty better
12:34
than the computers. Many of you out there
12:36
are using AI and
12:38
trying to make the better Kona. There's a little side
12:40
project for us. You ready to drive while the kind
12:42
people work on that? Why don't you drive? I think
12:44
so. While they do the AI, you do the driving.
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admit I'm now hearing the Night Rider The example that
13:23
comes to mind is... I've
13:26
just got to overhear, kind of do a little Night Rider
13:28
dance. Let's
13:31
put it in gear, twist it like a key.
13:33
Your three on the tree is great. The turbo
13:35
engine is good, and you've got two modes right down
13:37
here in the drive. Two only normal and the
13:39
sport. So when you go to sport, you
13:41
get curbing. Look at this. Does
13:44
curbing in the gauges look really weird?
13:46
FIA certified curbing. No, nobody certified that. That's
13:48
been certified by no one. Did you know
13:50
that the front wheel drive version of this
13:53
has a torsion beam rear? I
13:55
did read about that. Multi-link on the all wheel
13:57
drive torsion beam on this, which is fine. I'd
13:59
like to. It's got a
14:01
turbo engine an actual real transmission. That's
14:03
fantastic And it's got paddles the
14:05
commands from the paddles to the transmission
14:08
are suggestions, but this isn't an end Okay,
14:11
there's some sport to be found and
14:13
you can drive consistently smooth and quick
14:17
Fairly satisfying to drive and did you
14:19
notice that the lower versions? They
14:23
not only get a word as I get a
14:25
CVT This is the only way to get avoid
14:27
if the upper level trims with this turbo motor
14:29
and the eight speed you do not want the
14:31
lower Trims there's no steering field. There's no fun
14:33
really to be had. That's not why you're buying
14:35
this category You're buying it for price. You're buying
14:37
it for amenities But
14:40
when it comes to the ride, I'm a
14:42
little confused Interesting
14:48
among yep being to drive It
14:52
is not true suspension feels
14:54
softer than many stands You
15:08
push the drive sponge is slowly reformed
15:10
shape got it So it's got springs
15:12
and sponges Okay Yes,
15:22
if you're too harsh They
15:26
wonder I wonder I'm a consumer too. I
15:28
wouldn't want that stiff suspension I'd want it
15:30
on the end and when you
15:32
apply the end kind of styling performance
15:34
and colorway to Hyundai vehicles
15:36
usually they get better, but we're not
15:38
starting with something great here. That's my
15:41
concern We're starting with an EV hot
15:43
hatch SUV mix and so is I
15:45
mean look they did wonders of the
15:47
last It's
16:01
trying to be too many things and
16:03
the design by committee means it's trying
16:05
to be so worldwide and appeal to
16:08
everybody. Yes, no question. If you're shopping
16:11
for this or anything in this market segment
16:13
at Old Kona, I'm going to bring up
16:15
the Crosstrek. You mentioned the Tows. There's a
16:17
lot of stuff in there and I really
16:20
hate the Tows. I know, I know. You're
16:22
shopping for any of those. You can go
16:24
to autotempest.com/everyday. You can actually find anything you
16:26
can imagine. Autotempest searches all of the search
16:28
engines for all cars nationwide. You can really
16:31
find the exact version you're looking for of
16:33
whatever, be it old Kona, new Kona.
16:36
Kona N's are out there. Kona N's are out
16:38
there. Kona N's are something. So don't forget about
16:40
autotempest.com. autotempest.com. All the cars. One search. Trying
16:45
to do fewer things. trying to do fewer things. Yes.
16:57
If it's gonna be a hot
16:59
hatch, let's go in the direction
17:01
of hot hatches. People
17:06
love hot hatches. They sell. Everybody loves hot
17:08
hatches. Who doesn't like hot hatches? now.
17:12
I cannot say this is a home run but
17:14
they're gonna sell. They just
17:16
are because Hyundai's warranty, great
17:19
build quality, reliability and the things
17:21
that you get for your money, that
17:23
value. The interior is
17:25
the reason you buy it. I appreciate what
17:27
this offers for the money. This is not
17:29
a driver's vehicle. That's not the point. It's
17:32
a commuting car. It is a
17:34
good all in one family car. It does all
17:36
of those things well. I really do think that
17:38
the upper level engine is worth the stretch on
17:40
this which gets you the good transmission. I mean
17:43
you have usable back seats and a decent sized
17:45
cargo area. It's this mid sized, it's not even
17:47
mid sized, it's the compact CUV. And
17:50
honestly that segment is a tough segment for
17:52
you and I. There's very few standouts in that
17:54
segment and everybody offers at least one. Hyundai
17:57
built in Aztec everybody. Modern?
18:01
What a note to end on.
18:03
Aztec. Aztec? No, Tez. Eeeh, not
18:06
me, Kona. We like a lot of
18:08
their stuff. We just wasn't a stand out. We like
18:10
all their stuff. These are not their... I
18:12
just love them. This is not their best day. And
18:14
not their best day. This
18:17
is a... the mistake. They
18:22
forgot the salt or something. I
18:25
don't know. Like
18:27
when Gordon Ramsay inviscerates chefs on his
18:29
show, he always goes back
18:32
to salt and pepper. And asks them, did you
18:34
actually use salt and pepper? No,
18:37
I forgot salt and pepper. That's the basics.
18:40
The slowest salt and pepper is
18:43
the base seasoning. Hot
18:46
Nakona needs more salt and pepper. Got
18:48
it. Okay. We're learning stuff today.
18:51
We really are.
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