This week on the podcast, host Mungi Ngomane is joined by Theodore R. Johnson III. Theodore is a Senior Fellow and Director of the Fellows Program at the Brennan Center for Justice at the NYU School of Law, where he undertakes research on race, politics, and American identity. Prior to joining the Brennan Center, he was a National Fellow at New America and a Commander in the United States Navy, serving for twenty years in a variety of positions, including as a White House Fellow in the first Obama administration and as speechwriter to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. His work on race relations has appeared in prominent national publications across the political spectrum, such as the New York Times Magazine, the Atlantic, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, and the National Review.

In this conversation, Mungi and Theodore touch on his time in the military, the challenges the military faces and the paradox of the Black American experience. Theodore also speaks about his book, When the Stars Begin to Fall: Overcoming Racism and Renewing the Promise of America, which outlines a path toward multiracial national solidarity to finally overcome the existential threat of racism in the United States. He shares honestly where he is in his life's purpose and explains the concept of the power in "I am" instead of "my name is."

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