Karen Wong has a longtime interest in origins and evolution and we discuss what happens when you shift the definition of evolution. Old definition: Changes in gene frequencies acted upon by natural selection. New definition: Self-awareness at fractal levels of scale. 

Evolution 2.0 by Perry Marshall Biology Transcends the Limits of Computation by Perry Marshall: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science... 

The Importance of Henry H. Heng's Genome Architecture Theory by R. Furst: https://evo2.org/wp-content/uploads/2... 

The True Believer by Eric Hoffer: https://www.amazon.com/True-Believer-... 

Perry's conversation with Azra Raza about cancer: https://youtu.be/W2tbSS2dp9o 

Cancer and Evolution Symposium with James Shapiro and Denis Noble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_nVJ...

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