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Hello everyone! Thank you for joining
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me for another week of Ask Floss. Okay,
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let's get right into it with the first question.
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What would be or is in your dating app
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bio? So I'm not on any dating
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apps, but what would be in my dating app
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bio? It would be something silly like,
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let's go find a spot to frolic and fuck
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in the sun.
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That would be the bio.
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Moving on to the next question. I find
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it easier to speak out when men I don't really know
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are making me or my friends uncomfortable. But
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when it's a close friend of over 13 years, I'm
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finding it really hard to speak up and say something.
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Do you have any advice about how to talk to your closest
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mates when they're overstepping some boundaries? Yeah,
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because you're dealing with a lot of guilt and you're dealing
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with a lot of holding the weight of their feelings,
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right? And I think that there's a fine line
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between asserting yourself and
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being able to stand up for what you believe in and
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then feeling like you're infringing on the friendship or whatever.
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But a safe friendship allows you to
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assert yourself and stand up for your opinions.
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You should be able to actually not
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only assert yourself, but sometimes be a bit of a
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dick in a space that is safe
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and then apologise later. Do you
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know what I mean? So even if I'm the
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fact you're even asking me this question kind
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of shows to me that you're not even really like
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capable of being the worst person on earth.
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So if you think the worst person, your version
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of being the worst person on earth is probably saying, hey,
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that was really offensive. That is not
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like people. People are liars. People are
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manipulators. What you're doing is not
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a bad thing. So try to get out of your head that
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by asserting your opinion in a friendship and
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talking to someone about their behaviour is like the
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worst thing on earth. It really is not.
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And I think that what perhaps you're
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afraid of again, I don't know, situation is
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kind of rocking the boat with the dynamic when
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we're friends with people, we tend to have
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these almost like invisible contracts
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of what the friendship is. And if the
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friendship dynamic is, let's say, currently
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let's say the friends around you are more dominant
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and they make all the plans, they make all the decisions and
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you're someone in the friendship who's submissive. And
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when you finally stand up for yourself, that
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kind of becomes a problem and it's harder to stand
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up for yourself than it would be for
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someone who's used to doing it because you change
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the contract of the friendship. Even though
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contracts between friendships are never actually said out
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loud, there are these rules that just happen and
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then become set, especially when they become
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a pattern over time. So what I would
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say is you are going to change a pattern
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here. If you're not used to speaking out to
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your friends or if it's your guy friends, then you're changing
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a pattern and patterns take time to
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form. So if you're going to change a pattern,
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you might have to, don't expect to
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tell someone who's had a pattern of years and years and years
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to change it in one go. What I
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look for in personal growth and progress
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is someone who tries
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and then tries again and tries again. And then if they mess up,
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they go, oh, sorry, I didn't mean to say that. I really, I'm
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really working on this, whatever. I
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think I like to see those kinds of signs of growth in those
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friendships. So that's the kind of things I would say to
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look out for. Okay. Onto the
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next question. Hey, Floss, I'm a queer
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woman with a bit of a dilemma. At the start
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of my sexuality journey, I questioned whether I liked
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girls or femme presenting people, but now
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it's turned around to be the quite opposite. I
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know that I love women, but it's men I'm bloody confused
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about. It's like I can
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be emotionally and mentally attracted
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to men in theory. But when it's time
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to take the next step, I'm just not that physically
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attracted to them in an intimate way. It's
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frustrating and confusing that these three types of attraction
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just don't align entirely for me. Can
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you talk a bit about the different types of attraction and how
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to navigate them? So I'm no expert on
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your sexuality. I'm an expert
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on mine. And even then I still don't fucking
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know, babes. So I resonate
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a lot with the whole, oh, at the start of my
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journey, I was wondering whether I like girls. Now I don't
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know if I like men.
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Totally relate and resonate with that.
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My number one thing, people ask me all the time, Floss,
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how did you know if you were bi or lesbian? I
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still don't know. And I'm okay never knowing.
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I think that that was the point of acceptance for me.
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You've asked me here, you know, like it's all confusing.
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That's okay.
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And I think Jen Winston, she wrote
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the book Greedy and it's all about
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being bisexual. It's amazing. You should definitely
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go read it and buy it. She said,
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perhaps the most queer thing of all is confusion.
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And I think it is. It's confusion about
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your sexuality and then you get onto gender and
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you're like, oh fuck, how much of me is a woman? And
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how much of that is fucking programmed? What even
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is a woman? And you go into this kind of like existential
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spiral where you're wondering what's
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what and who's what and what's this and what's that. That's
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okay. And honestly, I
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would try to reframe the perspective and look at it as a
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fucking beautiful thing that you're
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at this place of questioning everything. A lot of people wouldn't
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even get to this point of questioning their
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decisions, questioning their sexuality, questioning the way they
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are. I think it's a really gorgeous place to be in. Try
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if you can to just accept that you
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may never know. You may never
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know who you find hot, and
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that's okay. I understand that sometimes
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it's great to have labels because we find community
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in labels, but try just talking
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to a bunch of other confused bisexuals. Honestly,
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because there are a lot of them. Okay, onto
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the next question.
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Hey Floss, I've been binging all of your content on
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body image. Just finished the one with Lindsay
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and Lexi and oh my God, I felt that. I'm
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a CrossFit athlete and I'm never more in my body than
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when I'm training. And we use that phrase, your
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body is an instrument, not an ornament.
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But it's so difficult because we often get
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so much hope for the way we look. Despite
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just doing our sport for enjoyment, we get
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the you look like a man comments and
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don't get too big, et cetera. Because
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I guess we're not performing traditional femininity. I'm
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a bigger girl, size 18, and my platform
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spans across to body positivity too,
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for that reason. I have body fat and muscle
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and I want to appreciate my body more for what it can
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do than what it looks like. But we get so much
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pushback from particularly women, even
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in the body positive community about our bodies. I
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guess my question is,
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why do you think muscular women still get so much hate
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for having muscles?
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and what do you think we can do about this?
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I think it all comes down to like your basic
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classic misogyny and not
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liking masculinity on women and wrapping
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a fucking pretty bow around it. Do you know what I mean? Like
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people are going to be, I don't even know, like don't
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get too big, you look like a man. It's
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so also transphobic. It's just
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bullshit. It's bullshit, babe. It's bullshit.
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It's classic sexist bullshit. There's
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no other word for it and I'm so glad that you
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can see that it's bullshit. It's their ignorance. It's
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not your problem. Just keep doing what you're fucking
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doing. Sounds like you're doing a great job. Sounds
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like you're empowering a lot of people, particularly
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women who want to work out and want
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to feel strong and want to feel great in their bodies. That
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should not be an experience reserved for fucking
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men.
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Just keep doing you. Honestly,
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you've got this. Okay,
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on to the next question. I'm 24
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and a bisexual woman but I've
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never actually kissed or slept with another woman. I
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was in a long-term relationship with a man during my years
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of sexual exploration but now that I'm single
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and ready to mingle, I'm so anxious and scared
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of sleeping with a woman for the first time. Do
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you have any advice or affirmations to get over my
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fears? Yes.
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Just remember, if you're sleeping with
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another woman, it's going to be
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different but also not that different. It's
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two bodies smooshing together.
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Yes, you use your hands a lot more than
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you do if you're having sex with someone
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with a penis and it's going to be different,
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it's probably going to be longer, probably
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going to be... It's just going to be different. Different,
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not scary. I want you to know that. Different,
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not scary. And different feels like
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scary sometimes because it's unknown and it's
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totally normal that you're
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going to feel like this is scary but it's
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only scary because it's unknown. And unknown can
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also be extremely fucking
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exciting. Any advice? You
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need to feel confident in yourself going into it. Try
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to talk to the woman that you're going to have sex with about
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your feelings beforehand, talking about sex on the
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internet. the date before
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you actually go and shag is a really good idea and
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all that kind of stuff that definitely helped prep me
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to share them because sometimes when
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you share them I've had people
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cast spells and do weird
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things to me once
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I've told them my
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big three. So I'm going to keep that in
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my back pocket. Okay,
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onto the next question. Is Ertha
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based on you? No, Ertha
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is a lot braver than me. I feel like I lived
11:04
vicariously through Ertha in
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the novel. She's a lot braver than me. She's
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also a lot more naive and the journey that
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Ertha goes on is
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very extreme. But definitely
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I've pulled from my own emotions that I felt
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before. I feel like most writers have to pull
11:19
from the horrible experiences
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and feelings that you've had and the joyful experiences
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that you had as well when it comes
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to writing metaphors about how you
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feel about things, how I feel about
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sunsets, how I feel about women, all those
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sorts of feelings I've had to pull from
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my life. And I think that
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the characters in the novel
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are so rich and complex
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because I've pulled from things I've seen and things I've
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experienced. But I wish I was as brave
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as Ertha in my novel.
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Okay, onto the next question. Can
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we have an audio tat tour?
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Okay, yeah. So on my left
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hand I have a rose and on my right
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hand
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I have a snake and a little sparkly
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thingy. All of those are done by Molly
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the Bumting on Instagram. On my
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legs I have a cowgirl and
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a tattoo on my other thigh
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that says, Oh Sweet Nothin', which is my
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favorite Velvet Underground song.
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Then on my right arm I have,
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hold on, I need
12:20
to take my jacket off to have a look. On
12:23
my right arm I have a cowboy boot. I
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have a woman's face with some
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cherries underneath it that says,
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Just Like Honey, which is a Jesus
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and Mary chain song. Then I have
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a woman holding a Martini glass. That was by
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Girl New York on Instagram. And
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then on my left arm I have a tattoo that says, Gut
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feeling by Happy For Never on
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Instagram. That's their name.
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They are in Glasgow. And
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then I have my first ever tattoo, which is of
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a naked woman by Sweet
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as a Nut. She also did my cowgirl. And
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then I have a tattoo that I got when I was drunk, which
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is a simple arrow.
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No, it's a simple heart with
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a bow and arrow through it. Not the bow, just the
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arrow. That's my shitty
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tattoo tool. There you go. Oh, I also have one
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that just says, Women on the back of my arm.
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Okay, on to the next question. Hi,
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I'd like my question to be anonymous. Love the podcast,
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really need your advice. I feel my friends
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have left me out. They've started to do stuff without me
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and stop texting. I haven't settled down anything
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to cause this as I'm very easy going and laid back
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within our group. I see them out all the time and
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I'm just left to my own company. I feel very
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upset and depressive over this. It's left me irritated
13:30
at my life and myself. Is friendship grief
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a real thing? And if so, how can I handle
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it? That sounds so horrible
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and isolating and lonely. And the first thing that
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came to my mind was, well, it's happened to
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me before. And it was in my
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situation when I started to do things
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that opposed the group. So it's
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a bit like, and I'm not being dramatic when
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I say this, please take this as an extreme metaphor.
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It's a bit like a cult. A friendship group
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has rules, right? So if one person
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in the group decides to deviate,
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from those rules even slightly
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a little bit, it can be seen
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as an opposition to the group and to the identity
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of the people in the group. So you've not
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said that you've done anything differently, but it could
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literally be that you've stopped,
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let's say all your friends smoke and you've
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stopped smoking and this is an immature group
14:18
of people. They might start to
14:20
do the whole you think you're too good
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for us thing now or you don't
14:25
want to come to this place because you don't smoke
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and then all of a sudden the dynamic changes because
14:29
people assume that you don't want to go to places because you
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don't smoke. Or it could be that you're
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not in a nice
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friendship group where you've started to get nice
14:38
things for yourself and people think that you've betrayed
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the group because you've outgrown them. I would
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definitely Google
14:44
crabs in a bucket,
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the metaphor, crabs in a bucket, which
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basically describes how when crabs are caught at sea
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and they land in a bucket they can collectively
14:54
help each other to get out of the bucket and escape
14:57
and survive and thrive. But what they do instead
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is when one crab
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almost claws its way out of the bucket they
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all collectively pull the crab down because
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they don't want the crab to survive.
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They
15:09
just want everyone in the bucket to die with them.
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And this happens in communities, it happens
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in small towns, it happens in friendship groups. If there's
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a pattern established they would rather pull you down
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and sometimes the way that women pull other women down
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is by making them feel weak by isolating
15:23
them. And that happens, it
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happens a lot, it's not nice but sometimes
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it happens and it has nothing on you. If anything
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it's often a reflection of your greatness because they
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need to do all of the things to reduce your strength. It
15:35
could also be absolutely none of those things. Again
15:37
this is completely unprofessional advice but I'm basing it
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off my experience. Okay,
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on to the next question. How do I handle
15:44
all of this pain and fear and rage I feel in the aftermath
15:47
of Roe v Wade being overturned? So
15:51
everyone on Instagram has asked me to
15:53
speak about this. I just said I've nothing
15:55
profound to add to the discussion of this.
15:57
I feel like everything has been said. so
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hideous, it's so disgusting that people in power are
16:02
still making decisions about our bodies. It makes
16:04
you wonder if they ever even really belong to
16:06
us. There's also lots of theories about why it's happening
16:08
that
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are just horrendous to hear. You've
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said how, you've asked me how do I handle all this pain, fear and
16:14
rage. I cannot tell you how
16:16
to handle it. I'll tell you how I would handle it. I'm
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assuming that this is deeply
16:21
affecting you. Maybe you live in America.
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Sometimes you want to
16:27
do activist work. That always helped
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for me to be loud, to feel
16:31
seen and heard where I wasn't feeling
16:33
seen and heard when things were impacting my life and my rights.
16:36
In situations of injustice I like to gather around
16:38
with people to talk about how fucking shit it is.
16:41
That makes me feel better. Maybe
16:43
you want to unplug from the news. Maybe you
16:46
don't need to listen to it by the way and you don't
16:48
need to constantly know about every single
16:50
awful thing that's going on with the Roe v. Wade
16:53
law being overturned to
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be a good person. If this is
16:57
something that's impacting you, whatever, it's
17:00
entirely okay to
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unplug. You do not need to carry around the
17:04
baggage of
17:06
all of this awful update. However,
17:08
some people feel more in control and safe when
17:11
they know what's going on.
17:12
So there's no right way to handle this but
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I hope that any of those three options can
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help you. But my number one point of advice is
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to just talk to people about it. Sending you
17:21
so much fucking love. Okay,
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on to the next question. What's the best and worst
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party you've ever been to?
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Well the worst party has probably got to be some
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crappy house party I went to when I was like 14 when
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I stuffed my boobs with chicken fillets
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and listened to like Dizzy Rascal and
17:38
sipped my
17:40
massive bottle of cider in
17:42
the corner and waited for boys to talk to me. Like
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that's just got to be like the peak
17:47
misery of like wanting
17:50
men to like you. It's
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just like taping your tits up with
17:55
all your friends waiting for men to choose
17:57
you and hating other girls
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because of it. There's just got to be like the silliest
18:01
but also most iconic if you think about it the
18:04
image of all oh It's a very British
18:06
experience, but doing all of that shit It's
18:08
good funny and silly memories But definitely
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peak like misery for my femininity
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for my happiness and the way I felt about my body
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the best party I've ever been to hmm
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Probably New Year's Eve at the
18:23
pub just gone There's
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definitely loads of more amazing nights out that I've had But
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there was such a sense of euphoria in the pub everyone
18:30
was snogging Everyone was kissing
18:32
it just platonically romantically whatever
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I had friends swinging off the chandeliers
18:37
dancing on the on the bar I
18:40
wore a top that was dancing on the table and then
18:42
my friend he fell off the table and clutched
18:45
onto my top to support him and then
18:47
my tits came out because the top broke
18:49
and Then a friend shouted
18:50
at me across from the other side of the pub
18:53
floss your tits are out
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And then everyone saw and then
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I just took the top off and closed my blazer and
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then carried on dancing on the pub table
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And it was amazing
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Okay on to the next question Who
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was someone you've met that wasn't how
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you expected them to be? hmm
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I think anytime I meet friends offline
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That I've made online. I'm always pleasantly
19:21
surprised by how much softer people
19:23
are in person That's been my
19:25
experience making friends with women and dates
19:28
and stuff I've
19:31
dated someone who surprised me
19:33
offline. There were a lot softer in
19:36
person And more wonderful.
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I think you get to see people's
19:41
humanness offline So I'm always pleasantly
19:43
surprised when I meet people offline not always
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but like the people I choose to surround myself
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with right, I
19:49
know it's a really annoying answer, but Yeah
19:54
Okay, on to the next question. Have you ever been
19:56
totally starstruck by someone you've met and
19:58
what did you say? Hmm...
20:01
No, I can't
20:05
think. And I don't mean
20:07
that in no one's start, no one
20:10
ever makes me feel nervous. Women
20:12
make me feel nervous all the fucking time. Actually,
20:15
you know what, I'm going to say when I first met Monroe,
20:17
who I've interviewed on the show also,
20:20
when we first met before we were friends, I
20:23
actually went to go see her talk. And
20:25
I was so starstruck by her, because
20:28
I think she's fucking incredible, what she's done
20:30
for the queer community, and forwarding
20:33
the conversation with trans rights in the UK is just ridiculous.
20:36
Also, I interviewed Laila Saad. Laila Saad was
20:38
like my Beyonce, and was obsessed
20:40
with her. So probably those people, I've never
20:42
met Laila in person. I can't think off
20:44
the top of my head now, if any of my friends are listening to this, they're probably
20:46
like, oh my God, babes, there are so many times.
20:50
Maybe I've just mentally blocked them out. Okay,
20:52
on to the next question. Dream people
20:55
to collaborate with. Honestly,
20:57
and this is such an annoying answer, I feel like I've collaborated with
20:59
a lot of my heroes. Oh, dream person,
21:01
obviously Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga.
21:04
Dream person to collaborate with. Just on
21:06
anything, really.
21:08
I would love to do anything with that woman. Hey
21:10
Floss, I'm bisexual, I think, and I'm
21:12
attracted to men, but whenever I get to know them,
21:14
something is holding me back, because in the back of my mind,
21:16
I'm like, ew, it's a man. I'm
21:18
not sure if this is because I'm comphet, or I'm
21:21
choosing the wrong guys. So for
21:23
anyone listening, comphet is compulsory
21:25
heterosexuality, which is essentially what
21:27
lesbians experience where they
21:29
don't actually like men, but heterosexuality
21:32
has been so compulsory, even in sex education,
21:34
we're not taught about queer sex, right? To the point
21:37
where it's almost indoctrinated into you, and
21:39
it's compulsory, but not
21:41
something that comes innate, or something that comes naturally
21:44
to you. If
21:47
you're thinking, ew, it's a man, this
21:49
could be a trauma thing, this
21:51
could be that you're a lesbian, this could
21:53
be that you don't want to be into men right now. Honestly,
21:56
sometimes, depending on what's going on in politics,
21:58
a lot of women just... want to avoid
22:01
men entirely because they're so enraged. Whatever
22:04
reason that you don't want to be with men is totally
22:06
valid. I saw something online recently
22:08
that was like, men are the only thing
22:10
we force ourselves to have to like. Like
22:13
you don't have to force yourself to
22:16
be like, is it because of this? Is it because of that? If
22:18
you don't want to be with men at the moment, you don't want
22:20
to be with men and there doesn't have to be a reason
22:22
behind it. Don't force yourself
22:24
to be like, but I should because I'm bi, right?
22:27
If you don't like men,
22:28
you don't like men right now and that's okay.
22:31
I previously answered a question here where I said, you
22:33
know, kind of learn to grow
22:35
into acceptance with realising that maybe
22:37
you'll never know your sexuality and I find a
22:39
lot of peace with that.
22:42
As always, thank you for listening and getting in
22:45
touch. It really means so much to me. Same
22:47
time next week for more Ask Floss. Can't
22:49
wait to tell next week. Bye!
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