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What is going on out there everybody and

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thank y'all again so very

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very much for joining us here on Expanded

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Perspectives with me Cam Hale and I'm not

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alone. Today I have a very

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special guest. It's

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really happy to be in this cool weather Cal How's

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it going everybody yes I'm here in Skelechon Studios

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enjoying the cool weather we got a ton of rain. Oh it's crazy. I mean

1:02

like six inches in 24 hours it's insane.

1:05

I mean it's a drought of his voice. It's

1:07

a drought of all the sudden. I

1:11

wanted the rain but can we not get

1:14

six months worth of rain in one night like no no

1:16

absolutely not feast or famine around here

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right exactly.

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It was 80 degrees the other day now it's going to be wintering

1:22

mix tomorrow. Yeah I love it. It's crazy

1:24

how fast it just comes out of the blue.

1:26

So last night when the rain broke.

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You know it's pretty late it was like 1130 or

1:31

so whenever it finally quit misting and sprinkling

1:33

and all that. I went outside started

1:35

shooting my bow right because I told you I've been shooting in

1:37

the evenings and I get out there and I get my lights on I start shooting.

1:41

I felt the cold winds hit right like

1:43

you can feel that northern really blow in good that's

1:45

when I'm like yeah I better go back inside.

1:48

Yeah well and I got a new

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phone here. Oh yeah I haven't figured

1:52

out how to work at all yet but yeah. Remember

1:55

I was complaining about how my phone wouldn't quit roaming

1:57

and searching for cell towers and Wi-Fi.

1:59

Networks as I took it to the shop. They

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said sorry. They looked at it. They said yeah It's a software

2:04

issue and I was like, you know what? It's kind of

2:06

weird how there's been an update on my

2:08

phone that I've refused to do for like the

2:10

last six months I finally

2:12

do the update and now my phone

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don't work. That's a clever plan to get

2:17

you to buy another phone Don't you think classic?

2:19

I don't be the conspiracy theorist, but I think every

2:21

time they send you an update They're like slowing

2:24

down your phone making it want to give

2:26

up a go. So you have to go buy another one I

2:28

know you don't want to be the conspiracy theory guy,

2:31

but you're so good at it. Well, I know yeah

2:34

Yeah, very good So

2:36

also you need to go ahead and fill the good people

2:39

in the fact that you've been hunting that you killed

2:41

Yeah, I don't I wouldn't say you killed the six-point

2:44

I helped Yeah,

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yeah Unwillingly the

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other day I was going Down a new

2:52

loop that they've opened up in the town and a fella

2:54

going the opposite direction coming towards me hit

2:57

a deer knocked it in the air and If

3:00

I hadn't slammed my brakes on it would come through my windshield But

3:03

I just ran over it with my car and it kind of messed

3:05

up the front fender, but man I wish you had a dash

3:07

cam for that me too Right that have been so

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cool if I was in Russia I would because I guess

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everybody has a dash cam in Russia for whatever reason

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I think you notice that it's yeah, cuz it's the Wild West

3:16

over there. I guess Yeah,

3:19

you'd text me yesterday and you're like I just what

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do you say? I just hit a deer and I

3:23

saw it that it was somewhere else I didn't realize

3:25

it's literally like a few miles from the house Head

3:28

then he just got it smoked and throw

3:30

that shit thrown at me like

3:32

a hot potato Did that have been so bad? It was

3:35

it was kind of awful. It messed up the other

3:37

guy's truck bad There was debris everywhere and then they just

3:39

kept going. They didn't stop to check

3:42

on me. Luckily Some

3:44

other nice folks did stop and check him. It's like man. Are

3:46

you alright? And I'm like, yeah, I'm fine Like

3:48

that was insane. Well, never seen a deer go

3:50

that high. He's texting me after just realized

3:52

I never texted I never asked him if he's okay,

3:55

cuz if you're texting me, you're okay. Right?

3:58

Yeah, I have to ask that I know if you can move your If

4:00

you can speak, you're all right. Good, good. All

4:02

right, we're fine. Rub some dirt on it. Let's

4:05

go. It was pretty strange. So it's

4:07

been a pretty wild week. It has. I

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can say nonetheless, it's been a wild, crazy

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week. I'm going to start off this wild,

4:14

crazy week with a story that I've got for

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you that I think you're going to enjoy. Also

4:19

too, big ups. Happy birthday to

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our homie Lon at Phantom's

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and Monstrickler boy. Howdy. I

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hope he has a wonderful birthday. Ron

4:27

sent this over because again, y'all know how

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he does me with headlines, right? And

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of course I have to share them with Kyle. This is

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the first thing that jumped out at me, a four and a half

4:36

inch

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tall cicada man.

4:42

Four and a half inch? Four and a half

4:44

inch. Sounds like you. A

4:47

cicada man encountered in a Pittsburgh area

4:49

mall. A mall folks. Think

4:52

so, have those? I don't think so. I think this was

4:54

back in 2008 when this actually happened. When

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it all went down in April of 08. From

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Uniontown, Pennsylvania. This is what it says.

5:04

It says she and her husband were at the now

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abandoned Century Three

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Mall in West Mifflin, PA.

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Is that like part of the Dunder Mifflin? I don't

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know. I don't know. Her husband was sitting

5:17

on a bench in the mall. Barbara went to the

5:19

men's department in JCPenney. This might

5:21

be Larry. It's what this is. I think right.

5:24

So here we go. She went to Gadzooks. We

5:26

went to Halloween. We went to Halloween outfit. Yeah.

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To Lids to get a new cap for her

5:32

husband. It says while there she saw a creature

5:34

that looked like an alien

5:36

or extraterrestrial. There was another woman

5:38

present with her young children. Now she says they

5:40

were rushing out of the area. Her son said,

5:43

I want to see it. But her mom said,

5:45

no, you can't let's go now. Barbara

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saw a gray man,

5:51

approximately four and a half

5:53

inches tall, wearing a red

5:56

and black plaid shirt and blue

5:58

pants. Sounds like it was a little. Little

6:00

Fred bear said he was standing

6:02

by clothes rack. It's a tiny Dan

6:05

Fitzgerald little Dan She

6:08

saw his profile and then looked away and when she

6:10

looked back he's now facing her She

6:12

described him as being male with no hair

6:14

gray skin almond black eyes with

6:17

lumpy heavily wrinkled face She

6:20

said the face was not human and it looked

6:22

somewhat like that of an insect

6:24

And when she looked or looked away again, because it's not

6:27

polite to stare. She looked back. He's gone She

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went to the register to ask for security, but

6:31

nobody was around She wasn't afraid

6:34

and said that the little man had a pleasant smile on

6:36

his face She decided to leave

6:38

the store because she and her husband were planning

6:40

to attend a movie Barbara tried to tell

6:42

her husband, but he told her to tell him after

6:45

the movie Don't bother

6:47

me Barbara tired of listening to your

6:49

lip, Barb I don't I'm gonna finish

6:52

this but I'm just gonna go ahead and interject here Barbara

6:55

Might be prone to really harassing

6:57

her husband with a lot of things which might be the reason

6:59

he said that I don't know but

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it says that she recalled sitting in a dark theater

7:04

in the rear by the Exit door and

7:06

that every time the door opened she'd look to see if the creature

7:08

was there and she was starting to get freaked

7:10

up Now she

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goes on to say that she completely forgot about the encounter

7:15

and never told her husband until two months later when

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she saw The UFO in an article or

7:20

a UFO article in the Tribune review

7:23

It seemed to jar how would you forget that

7:25

you saw four and a half inch tall man?

7:28

Well, that's a mall. Why does that just

7:30

slip your mind? Well, it's funny because

7:32

she said that she had a tremendous memory and can

7:34

tell details some years ago But surprised that

7:37

she repressed this memory. She

7:39

believes that when the creature was staring at her it

7:41

made the memory fade away Barbara

7:44

said that the newspaper article mentioned mentioned

7:46

the UFO sighting in Jefferson Hills right near

7:48

the mall at the same time She had her

7:50

experience and that she now refers to the

7:53

alien being as cicada man I don't

7:55

think it sounds extra tertiary at all. I think it sounds

7:57

more Fay like very very like What

8:01

she describes though is more of an alien grey.

8:03

No hair, grey skin, almond black eyes, leathery

8:06

face. It kind of describes that. But

8:09

my thing is... And it smiled at her? Four

8:11

and a half inches tall. That's a lot of detail

8:14

to pick up at four and a half inches. I

8:16

would have kicked that thing against the wall hard. Right! And

8:19

just sprayed it down. Stomped

8:21

on it. Something. Ran. She went and

8:23

told the security guard, how do you tell a security guard

8:25

you just saw a four and a half inch tall cicada

8:27

man wearing flannel shirts and pants? Pants. Good

8:30

thing there was no security around. They had to haul

8:32

Barbara away. Yeah. But... One

8:35

of those shirts with the long sleeves on it. Yeah, the tie

8:37

in the back. Here's what's crazy. I

8:39

often wonder now after hearing that, if...

8:42

Let's just... Alright, let's just all agree

8:44

real quick. This is real. This is 100% a thing, okay? Alright.

8:48

How many of those things could be around you at any moment?

8:51

That's what makes it seem when you're touching on Faye,

8:54

think about it. What was it doing at the

8:56

bar in the JC Penney's? Well,

8:59

I guess it knew malls were closing soon and they had

9:01

to get over there and get something. I guess. The

9:03

food court was always good. You get your Panda

9:05

Express on while you're hanging out there. Then

9:07

go pick you up some shoes. Maybe

9:09

a... And you can tell they're in a bond. The woman's

9:11

name is Barbara. I mean, there has... Nobody names their

9:13

kid Barbara anymore. Is it just Barb?

9:16

I don't even do that. Man, Barbara's the one that... Barbie,

9:18

maybe. You know, I feel bad. Barbara was the

9:20

one that still people forget about that got taken out

9:22

in the first series, the first season of Stranger

9:25

Things. That was her name? Barbara.

9:27

Wasn't that her? The one that got into the upside

9:29

down and she got killed at the pool? That's Barbara. Everybody

9:32

forgot about Barbara. That season

9:34

one was like 10 years ago. I don't remember that. Stop.

9:38

So anyway, Cicada man. So keep

9:41

your eyes open folks. There may be four and a half

9:43

inch tall aliens around at any

9:45

and every moment. Very, very likely. Check

9:49

this out. It says, this story takes place in Pleasant

9:51

Hills, Pennsylvania, Kim. Yay! This

9:54

is an Allegheny County south of Pittsburgh.

9:57

I grew up there and had a friend who lived about

9:59

a hundred years. mile and a half away from me.

10:02

We didn't drive back then due to

10:04

poor decision-making, so we had to walk

10:06

everywhere. I've done a lot of that in my life. I'd

10:09

walk down past the local borough building,

10:11

cut up through the woods, and come out on the other side.

10:14

It was a shortcut to bypass the

10:17

huge hills we have to walk

10:19

up and down. The beginning of the hills

10:21

started in Pleasant Kingdom, a playground

10:23

for kids that sits back off

10:26

the road in the woods with tennis courts, basketball,

10:29

and typical ground stuff. We used

10:32

to sled ride there because the hill

10:34

was pretty massive on the backside.

10:36

That hill led to an opening of

10:39

our shortcut. We were walking

10:41

to my house one night and we were almost clear of the

10:43

woods. It was pitch black, but we

10:45

could see the playground lights at

10:47

the bottom, about 100 yards away,

10:49

when we heard a disgusting sound

10:52

to our right. It sounded like

10:54

something was eating something else and

10:57

making crazy wild animal noises,

11:00

but with a human-like undertone.

11:03

I could hear the tree limbs shaking, but

11:05

could not see anything. We bolted

11:07

the last hundred yards downhill to the

11:09

bottom and scratched our heads. We

11:11

had no idea what it could have been, but thought

11:14

it might have been a bear. We weren't

11:16

into Bigfoot back then, so it never

11:19

crossed our mind. The only light

11:21

was coming from the parking lot lights. It

11:23

was me and my friends, Steve and

11:26

Jose. Jose was good at

11:28

fist fighting and we were basically afraid of nothing,

11:30

especially when we were together. We

11:32

were just about to turn the corner to walk the

11:34

path behind the borough building to

11:37

my street. For whatever reason,

11:39

we all looked over our shoulders and

11:41

Steve said, what in the heck is

11:43

that? We all saw it

11:46

walk across the pavilion upright

11:48

from left to right and hide behind

11:51

a nearby tree. It was about

11:53

a hundred yards approximately and

11:55

up the hill in the dark, but the lights

11:57

in the parking lot illuminated it enough that

11:59

we We could all see a tall, gray-colored

12:03

animal-like man walk across

12:05

the pavilion. Its head

12:07

was level with the pavilion roof, so it was

12:09

easily eight foot tall. We

12:12

stood and watched, and then it simply

12:14

peeked out from behind the tree, as if

12:16

to get its eyes on all of us. At

12:19

that moment, we all turned and ran as fast

12:21

as we could to my house. We

12:23

stopped short and looked at each other and asked,

12:26

why are we running? It's like

12:28

it telepathically jumped into all of our minds

12:31

and said boo, and made 38-year-old

12:33

men turn and run like babies without

12:36

even knowing what we had just seen. None

12:38

of us knew what it was, but it bothered us for

12:41

weeks, until one day Steve said,

12:43

I think I know what we saw. I

12:46

think we saw a big foot. It

12:48

clicked immediately. I knew right there

12:50

that I wasn't crazy, and that we had definitely

12:53

seen and heard a Sasquatch.

12:55

I would tell people, my family and friends, that

12:58

nobody believed us. But it affected

13:00

me enough that I would join the Pennsylvania

13:02

Bigfoot Society. I would go on

13:05

investigations to interview witnesses

13:07

of reports, take pictures, and walk

13:09

the sights. I have a lot of pictures,

13:11

still, from some of the interviews

13:14

I was on. I came to realize

13:16

that Pleasant Hills is built on

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abandoned coal mines and to

13:20

find out that they travel the miles to

13:22

stay out of sight. Pleasant

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Hills is not a rural area. There

13:27

are houses and neighborhoods everywhere, but

13:29

there are large woods between these

13:31

towns that separate each other. This

13:34

is the main reason people have a hard time believing

13:36

my story. I know what

13:38

we saw. Steve and I are

13:41

both very much into Sasquatch.

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Thanks for everything you do, Tyler.

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Awesome.

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It's very cool. Yeah. It

13:48

wasn't until you described that they were all in their late 30s. I

13:50

thought from just reading the story that these were like

13:52

teenagers or kids, but they're not. These

13:55

were grown men. That's wild. They're

13:57

grown too, though, man. I'm not lying. Oh, yeah. You

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know, you've mentioned this before in these areas

14:02

like Kentucky, Pennsylvania, places

14:04

where there are lots of abandoned mines, maybe

14:07

these things are living in there. It'd be easy to move

14:09

in. Traveling from one location to another,

14:11

you know, you talked about the huge

14:13

networks, the cave systems up in the northeast

14:15

south. They're literally everywhere. It'd be a good place

14:18

to hide out. Very, very cool

14:20

story. Well, let's, speaking of stories, I've got

14:22

some strange ones for you. Let's take

14:24

a break and when we get back, I'm gonna be talking about some

14:27

scary encounters that took place in the woods.

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You see, we're passionate hunters and

23:28

every deer season we find ourselves

23:30

deep in the woods pursuing game. However,

23:34

amidst the serenity of the forest, my

23:36

mind often drifts to the peculiar

23:38

tales I've come across. Whether

23:41

through word of mouth, on other podcasts,

23:44

through emails from listeners, through

23:47

books I've read, these stories encompass

23:50

a wide spectrum. From UFO

23:52

sightings to, you guessed it, encounters

23:55

with Bigfoot. But not just that, wind

23:58

egos, rakes, and other things. skinwalkers,

24:01

and a host of other enigmatic phenomenon.

24:03

It's during those solitary moments in

24:05

the dark woods that these eerie

24:08

narratives tend to resurface in my thoughts.

24:11

I can't help but ponder the fate of

24:13

the countless missing individuals, particularly

24:16

fellow hunters, who disappear each

24:19

year in the vast expanse of

24:21

national forests, public hunting

24:23

lands, and beyond. What

24:26

transpires in the wilderness, and

24:28

what experiences await those who venture

24:30

into the unknown? I don't know.

24:34

It's shocking that in the United States alone, the

24:36

staggering number of people who go missing

24:39

each year, as reported by the National

24:41

Missing and Unidentified Persons

24:43

System, exceeds 200,000. Fortunately,

24:48

a significant percentage, ranging

24:50

between 89% and 92%, is eventually recovered, either

24:55

alive or deceased.

24:57

However,

24:58

when it comes to disappearances in the wilderness, there

25:01

is a notable lack of comprehensive tracking

25:04

data, an oversight, they

25:06

some say, by government agencies, such

25:08

as the Department of the Interior and

25:11

the Department of Agriculture's U.S.

25:13

Forest Service. Ironically,

25:16

some of the most reliable information on missing

25:18

persons in remote wilderness areas

25:21

comes from a rather unexpected source.

25:25

In 2011, David Pilides, the

25:28

founder of the North American Bigfoot search, initiated

25:31

a database specifically focused

25:33

on wildland disappearances occurring

25:36

under what he terms mysterious circumstances.

25:39

According to a Pilides' research, there

25:41

are currently approximately 1,600 individuals who

25:45

are missing in the wilds of the United States,

25:48

although this figure is approximate and

25:51

subject to change. This

25:53

data highlights some chilling patterns.

25:57

Most of these missing people vanish

25:59

in the late afternoon. afternoon, often coinciding

26:02

with severe weather conditions. Curiously,

26:05

their bodies are frequently discovered in areas

26:07

that have been previously searched, sometimes

26:10

without clothing or missing footwear.

26:14

Even when hypothermia can be ruled out as a cause,

26:17

it's noteworthy that people in late stages of

26:19

hypothermia might feel hot

26:21

to begin to remove clothing. Additionally,

26:24

children are sometimes found at seemingly

26:27

impossible distances from where

26:29

they went missing originally. We've

26:32

covered David's books, Missing 411,

26:34

numerous times on our show. We've been a big

26:37

fan, probably since the beginning.

26:40

However, the biggest obstacle in obtaining information

26:42

about these missing individuals, according

26:44

to Politis, is the bureaucratic

26:46

red tape of the National Park Service.

26:49

He speculates that the Park Service might be

26:52

concealing essential data about

26:54

how and where people disappear and

26:56

how many are truly found. Perhaps

26:59

out of concern that revealing the truth could

27:01

deter visitors. So

27:04

what becomes of the majority of these missing

27:06

individuals? Their fates can

27:08

be attributed to various factors. Some

27:11

are just accidents. A significant

27:13

number of the missing individuals are found

27:16

to have met their end due to an accident,

27:18

often unrelated to encounters with feral

27:21

humans in national parks. These

27:24

have come to exposure, falls, or

27:26

in rare cases, animal attacks. Notably

27:30

the final stages of hypothermia can

27:32

cause individuals to shed clothing, resulting

27:34

in bodies being found with less clothing than

27:37

they initially had. Lost

27:39

individuals often attempt to climb

27:41

to high vantage points

27:43

in search of getting their bearings,

27:45

which can tragically lead to fatal

27:48

falls. Some individuals are

27:50

found in areas that have been previously searched,

27:52

and children are occasionally discovered at remarkable

27:55

distances located from their

27:57

last known whereabouts. Other

28:00

circumstances involved kidnappings.

28:04

The haunted case of Dennis Martin, a

28:06

six-year-old who disappeared in the Great Smoky Mountains

28:09

National Park in Tennessee on June 14,

28:11

1969, has fueled chilling speculations. Dennis

28:16

vanished while playfully trying to startle his family

28:19

by hiding in the bushes,

28:21

but he never returned.

28:22

Despite an extensive search effort, which

28:24

included 1,400 people, including

28:27

the National Guard and Special Forces, he

28:30

was never found. Two sets

28:33

of footprints were discovered, one matching

28:35

Dennis' shoes, the other barefoot.

28:39

Sparkling rumors are sparking rumors, I'm sorry,

28:41

of a possible kidnapping by,

28:44

believe it or not, a feral person.

28:47

Also, some people go missing due to murder.

28:50

While cases of murders in national parks and federal

28:52

lands garner significant attention,

28:55

it is crucial to consider the broader scale. These

28:58

incidents may capture headlines, like

29:00

the tragic stabbing of Ronald Sanchez

29:02

Jr. while hiking the Appalachian

29:04

Trail, or the high-profile

29:07

case of Gabby Petito, whose body

29:09

was found in Grand Teton National Park.

29:12

However, it's essential to recognize

29:14

that these instances are part of a

29:16

larger landscape. Millions

29:19

of people hike the Appalachian Trail each year,

29:21

and the numbers of individuals living in

29:23

vans or RVs in remote

29:25

areas has likely increased, especially

29:28

in the wake of the pandemic. Understanding

29:31

the factors and complexities behind these disappearances

29:34

remains a challenging endeavor, and

29:36

it's an issue that continues to haunt

29:38

those who explore the great American

29:40

wilderness. But what

29:44

if it's something else? Something

29:46

more sinister? Something

29:48

demonic? Otherworldly? Something

29:52

not of this dimension? Consider

29:54

the possibility of something far more ominous,

29:57

even of a diabolical or otherworldly

29:59

What

30:01

of these experiences transcend

30:03

the realms of our understanding, evading

30:05

the boundaries of this dimension and

30:07

our terrestrial existence? On

30:09

today's show, I'm going to be talking about some

30:11

very strange sightings as well

30:14

as listening to some very bizarre and

30:16

unexplainable encounters in the woods.

30:20

Let's begin. This

30:26

first clip is from a hunter, a

30:29

man named Mike Woolley. He's

30:31

a hunter that was in Louisiana just

30:33

having a normal hunt when he encountered something

30:37

unusual. His story is compelling.

30:39

Let's take a listen. My

30:44

name is Mike Woolley. I'm from Key Child,

30:46

Louisiana. I had

30:48

encountered back in December of 1981 with

30:52

a Bigfoot while deer hunting. That

30:55

was a beautiful December day,

30:57

perfect weather for a hunt. Temperature

31:00

was about 30 degrees. I

31:03

got to my deer stand that evening,

31:05

about 3 o'clock, got on it. I

31:09

was sitting there and I

31:11

was facing to the north. My

31:16

deer stand was located about a mile and

31:18

a half down Old Logging Road and

31:21

off the main highway, secondary

31:23

highway. What I would do, I would

31:25

park my truck halfway down the

31:27

logging road and I would walk in

31:29

the rest of the way because I didn't want to drive my truck down

31:32

and spook the deer. It

31:35

must have been, I hadn't been there

31:37

more than 30 minutes and

31:40

this little young doe deer come

31:42

running from the east out of some briars

31:45

and brush that there's no way

31:47

a human could walk through that. She

31:49

come up to my deer stand and

31:52

what was so amusing, come up to my deer stand

31:54

and lay down and actually touch

31:56

in the deer stand, she was ringing wet,

31:58

was wet, she had been Something had been running

32:01

her. And the first thing that hit my mind,

32:03

it was a big buck. And I said, I'm going to kill

32:05

me a big buck. So when

32:08

I raised my head back up, I was turning

32:10

my head and out of my peripheral vision, I seen

32:12

something

32:14

hop to a tree. And it was

32:16

tall, about seven, eight foot tall. It was black,

32:19

real hairy, like a gorilla. And

32:22

I knew it wasn't a gorilla because there

32:24

was no circus in town. And I knew

32:26

it hadn't escaped. And I knew we didn't have no gorillas

32:29

running loose. So the

32:31

first thing that hit my mind, it was somebody

32:33

dressed up in a suit, trying

32:36

to scare me off my good deer hunting spot.

32:38

Well,

32:40

immediately I go to talking to this thing,

32:43

telling it, take the head off, get out

32:45

of here, don't come back.

32:48

This ain't no joke. I don't find it funny.

32:50

Just leave.

32:52

Well,

32:54

this thing was just eyeballing me, looking

32:56

at me and really giving me some

32:58

sinister looks. And I knew right then, I

33:00

said, something ain't right. Well,

33:03

this went on for a few minutes. And he

33:06

must have been about 20 yards from me, 15, 20 yards.

33:10

So I take my rifle, I've got a high-powered rifle, with

33:12

a high-powered scope on the rifle. And

33:14

I looked through the scope at the creature. And

33:18

I knew that after looking

33:20

at it, I was in a situation because it

33:23

was cold, the moisture was coming

33:25

out of its mouth, the nostrils, it

33:27

looked really, really human. The

33:30

face was human. The

33:33

eyelashes, I could see the eyelashes, the

33:36

eyes, the teeth, the teeth

33:39

were big, big teeth, flat

33:41

teeth like our teeth.

33:44

So anyway, I'm

33:47

sitting there and I'm looking at it and it

33:49

just, it's really PO'd

33:52

at me. And it lets out a roar

33:54

like a lion. Well,

33:57

about 100 yards to the north.

34:00

there's this really,

34:02

really loud whistle comes back,

34:05

you know, signal to the growl. Well,

34:08

this creature looks over

34:10

that way and whistles back

34:13

in the same tone of whistle and

34:15

then turns and looks at me. Well,

34:19

I'm kind of like, hey, you know, what's

34:21

going on here, you know, something's

34:23

up. I'm in trouble, big

34:25

trouble. Well, all

34:27

of a sudden I hear movement coming

34:29

from that direction and I knew whatever

34:32

he signaled was coming to meet up with him. And

34:34

I knew that I was probably going to be the

34:36

one who's going to be on the losing end of the stick, you know.

34:39

Well, I thought it was a feral

34:42

human because I'd

34:44

heard about him, you know, done

34:47

some reading about him. But as

34:49

far as a Bigfoot, I thought that was something that

34:51

existed out in California. I just thought that

34:53

was something somebody made up to make money off

34:55

of. Well, I jumped down off

34:57

my stand and I'm running

34:59

to the west to get to my truck. And

35:02

I look over my left shoulder and this creature

35:05

is running through the woods and

35:07

it is just moving brush. It's

35:09

running through the brush and it's bulldozing the brush

35:11

down. And I knew, man, this

35:13

thing is going to get me. It's

35:16

mad. It is POed. It's going to get me. Well,

35:19

I'm coming up on my truck and

35:21

I'm thinking, well, I got to stop to unlock my truck.

35:24

And when I get ready to unlock the

35:26

truck, he's going to make his move. He's going to have me.

35:29

Well, something crossed my

35:31

mind to fire a warning shot. Well,

35:34

when I got to the tailgate of the truck, I threw

35:36

my rifle to the left, pulled the trigger, and

35:39

the shot fired and the bullet hit

35:42

about seven foot up in a tree and

35:44

blew bark in front of his face. The

35:47

bark actually hit him in the face because he was about three

35:49

foot from the tree. If the creature

35:51

would have been another two seconds, the bullet would have hit him dead in

35:53

the head. Well, I

35:55

got in a truck. I'm driving

35:58

off. I look in my rearview mirror. and

36:01

lo and behold his buddy,

36:04

Betty and Signal, had been tailing me

36:06

coming up the logging road. I didn't have

36:08

a one chase with me, I had two.

36:12

Well they kind of stood there and looked at each other as

36:14

I was driving off. But my

36:17

recommendation to anybody if you

36:19

ever have an encounter in the woods is

36:22

don't fool with them, don't make eye contact,

36:24

don't point, and surely don't point a gun. Do

36:27

not engage this

36:30

creature because if you do, you

36:32

will lose. I didn't shoot it, it

36:35

was just too human.

36:38

The face, it

36:40

was a bipedal, it walked

36:43

two legs, two legs just like

36:46

we did. But it was too human.

36:49

The face was too human, the

36:52

eyelashes, the

36:54

teeth, the jaw

36:56

structure, the forehead,

36:59

it was light brown, the face was

37:01

light brown like it had a dark suntan.

37:04

But I couldn't pull the trigger because something

37:08

told me this ain't right, it's not the right

37:10

thing to do. You

37:13

hear stories like Mike's all the time. The

37:16

hunter doesn't want to shoot because

37:18

it looks too human. They don't want to

37:20

go to prison for the rest of their life because of misidentification.

37:24

What would you do if placed in that situation?

37:27

Check out this story.

37:30

This is a tale passed down through

37:32

my ex, her father and eyewitness,

37:35

and her former brother-in-law, all of

37:37

whom were known for their honesty

37:40

and not given to any exaggeration. The

37:43

story takes place in the Appalachian

37:45

Woodlands of central Pennsylvania, roughly

37:48

three decades ago, during the

37:50

mid 1980s. My

37:52

ex-brother-in-law was an ardent

37:55

outdoorsman, deeply connected

37:57

to the natural world and well acquainted.

38:00

with hunting, fishing, trapping,

38:03

boating, camping, basically everything

38:05

in the woods. On one fateful

38:07

day during early archery season, he

38:10

ventured into the forest in pursuit of white-tailed

38:12

deer. Having successfully

38:14

tagged a sizable buck some distance

38:16

from the family cabin, he promptly

38:18

gutted the deer and initiated

38:21

a long trek back to the cabin. Determined

38:23

to reach camp before darkness, that's

38:25

what his plan was. What occurred next,

38:28

as he recounted, was both puzzling and

38:30

alarming. Approximately

38:33

fifteen minutes into his journey, he

38:35

noticed the unsettling presence of something

38:38

trailing behind him. He said that

38:40

the woods got completely quiet, there was no

38:42

sounds, and he felt the

38:45

presence of something even though he could not see

38:47

it. As he continued, the

38:49

certainty grew that something was

38:51

shadowing his every step. The

38:54

animal, or whatever it was, seemed

38:56

to have honed in on the scent of the

38:58

deer's blood. Though the area

39:00

was known to be inhabited by various wildlife,

39:03

including mountain lions, bears, bobcats,

39:06

coyotes, and the such, the

39:09

pursuit didn't align with any of these creatures.

39:12

With every passing moment, his pursuer

39:14

appeared to be closing in on him. In

39:17

a moment of desperation, he made a daring

39:19

decision. He actually hoisted

39:21

the deer onto his shoulders and

39:24

pushed himself to move as quickly

39:26

as the rugged terrain would allow. About

39:29

halfway through his frantic dash, a

39:32

bone-chilling howl erupted from the direction

39:35

he had shouldered the deer. His

39:37

heart raced. Adrenaline surge

39:39

through his veins, and he raced towards

39:42

the cabin, even leaping

39:45

across the creek with the buck still

39:47

in tow. All the while, growls

39:50

and screams, punctuated by loud

39:52

cracks and pops that sounded akin

39:54

to gunshots, resonated behind

39:57

him. Upon reaching the camp, he

39:59

encountered the the others who had already returned

40:02

and were listening

40:03

to the loud sounds outside.

40:05

They promptly hung the deer in the shed, locked

40:08

it away, and barricaded themselves in

40:10

the cabin.

40:13

The cacophony continued, intermittently,

40:15

for nearly an hour, originating

40:17

from various points around the

40:19

cabin, before silence

40:22

finally descended. Needless

40:24

to say, none of them had

40:26

a restful night. The

40:28

following morning they embarked on an expedition

40:31

to the area where the initial screams and

40:33

sounds had erupted, hoping

40:35

to discern signs that might reveal

40:38

the identity of the creature responsible.

40:41

The rocky, unyielding ground offered

40:43

no definitive tracks. However,

40:46

they stumbled upon an inexplicable sight

40:49

within a dense thicket of

40:51

mountain laurel. Not more than fifteen

40:53

yards from where he had shouldered the deer, there

40:56

was this perplexing discovery. In

40:59

the midst of this tough, fibrous, and

41:01

pliable wood of the laurel, an area

41:03

measuring approximately twenty feet by twenty feet

41:06

had been torn apart. This

41:08

type of wood was nearly unbreakable, yet

41:10

the laurel had been twisted, snapped,

41:13

and torn as though it were fragile twigs. There

41:16

were no claw marks, no teeth marks,

41:18

antler or horn impressions, nor

41:20

any signs of a saw or a hatchet

41:23

were found. Most splintered

41:25

wood ripped and shattered

41:27

mountain laurel, some of which was

41:30

as thick as two inches. Whatever

41:32

had caused this devastation was evidently

41:35

massive, immensely powerful,

41:38

and consumed by profound

41:40

fury. This mysterious encounter

41:42

in the Pennsylvania wilderness remained etched

41:44

in their memories as unexplained

41:47

phenomenon. To this day

41:49

nobody knows what chased my

41:52

ex-brother-in-law. Wow,

41:55

fascinating story, right? He

41:57

doesn't know what chased him. You know, like

41:59

I guess I do. it could have been a bear. They

42:02

didn't actually lay eyes on anything, but

42:04

something pursued them. And I think they're

42:06

right. I don't think it was a bear. I

42:09

think it was something else. I got another

42:11

clip for you. It's pretty cool. Check

42:14

this out. Back in 2010, two

42:16

young boys in West Virginia

42:19

had a very strange experience along the Ohio

42:21

River. They wanted to go camping

42:23

in the woods and they had a run-in with

42:25

something otherworldly. Let's

42:27

listen. This took place in 2010. I

42:32

grew up on the Ohio River in West Virginia. I had

42:35

a lot of friends right across the river in Ohio.

42:39

We pretty much spent almost the entire summer

42:41

hanging out, especially since I was getting ready to go

42:44

to college. We'd

42:46

been talking about it for a long time about how we wanted to go

42:48

camping in the woods. One

42:50

day we were all hanging out. One

42:53

of us just suggested, hey, we should spend the night in the woods tonight.

42:58

I have one friend, Zane, that

43:01

lived next to a pond next

43:04

to a very large patch of woods. We

43:08

decided we were going to go camping right

43:10

along the edge of the woods.

43:13

There was me, Zane, and

43:16

two other friends. So we packed

43:19

up all the stuff. Hot dogs, stuff for

43:21

s'mores, some walking sticks. We set up our

43:23

little fire ring where we were going to build

43:26

a fire and then decided to go for a hike. We come back and then

43:28

build the fire. We're

43:31

all sitting in

43:38

our foldable lawn chairs, had our backs to the pond, and

43:40

we were facing the woods. Probably

43:44

about 20 feet to the pond

43:46

and then maybe 30 feet to the woods in

43:48

front of us. Most

43:51

of the

43:53

night was quiet. We

43:56

stayed up really late, sometime between two and a half. 2 and 3

44:00

a.m. I could hear twigs

44:04

snapping while I was trying

44:07

to process that. A stick had

44:09

come out of the woods and landed close to where

44:12

we were all sitting. Grabbed

44:14

our walking sticks. We all just go

44:16

quiet. Maybe 10

44:19

to 20 minutes go by. While

44:22

we were standing, the second one comes

44:25

flying out of the woods and this one actually hits

44:27

our fire. Spinning

44:31

like someone had threw it. I

44:35

saw it coming out of the woods so

44:38

I knew it didn't just fall from a tree. Cinders

44:41

and stuff flying up so we all jumped back.

44:46

A couple more minutes of nervous laughter

44:48

kind of occurs to us that Zane's

44:51

brother was probably messing with us.

44:54

It would have been a lot of effort for him to get up

44:56

in the woods without us seeing him but it

44:58

would not have been unusual

45:00

for him. It

45:04

wasn't something that was outside the realm

45:06

of possibility at all. Still

45:12

standing around the fire, standing around the chairs,

45:15

waiting for like what his next move is going to be. And

45:19

nothing happens. We

45:22

sit back down and I'm thinking maybe he heard

45:25

us go on to him so maybe he just gave

45:27

up. We

45:30

heard some more noises, footsteps

45:32

in the woods.

45:35

We ignored it. We're

45:38

not going to entertain it. He's pranking us. We're

45:40

just going to ignore him. Another

45:43

stick comes flying out of the woods. This

45:46

time it came from behind a very

45:48

large tree. This

45:52

one landed in the fire as well. Zane's

45:56

brother was a quarterback. It

45:58

probably would have been easy for him. to hit the fire with

46:00

a stick. And we figure he's just

46:03

gonna keep messing with us. And so Zane

46:07

and I have these flashlights. We're

46:10

kind of whispering to ourselves like, let's go

46:13

catch him. We'll

46:16

turn it around on him. I'll

46:19

try and scare him or catch him.

46:23

We start to walk towards this tree. This tree is probably 30

46:27

feet from where we were sitting. Zane's

46:30

plan is you go around one side

46:32

of the tree

46:33

and I'll go around the other.

46:36

Don't drop it.

46:41

I go left and Zane goes right. I

46:45

was focusing on the tree and looking at Zane waiting

46:47

for the cue to turn the flashlight on and jump out.

46:52

As we're approaching the tree, I

46:56

saw movement towards

46:58

the bottom of the tree. I

47:02

figured that Zane's brother had seen Zane coming

47:04

from that side of the tree. And so it was shimmying

47:07

around towards me without knowing that

47:09

I was there. I

47:14

turned the light on. I

47:18

angled the beam down towards

47:22

the bottom of the trunk. Sticking

47:26

out from behind the tree was

47:30

a leg. It

47:34

was a very large red

47:37

leg. Dark

47:40

red color, kind of

47:42

like a burnt orange. It was

47:44

muscular, like patchy

47:47

fur all the way down. I

47:50

could see the muscle definition

47:53

and I could see the tendon and the back of the

47:55

knee. So

47:59

it wasn't just. obscure discovered in fur

48:02

But there was fur it was hairy patches

48:06

of long stringy fur

48:09

all up and down it I Think

48:13

I was trying to rationalize in my head what

48:16

I was looking at I'm

48:19

looking at this leg then it turns

48:23

and

48:24

steps behind the tree

48:28

And right as it does Zane

48:33

yells Then I

48:35

realized what I saw was not

48:38

normal Not

48:42

in things brother so

48:44

then I yell We

48:46

turn and run back As

48:50

we were running I remember hearing

48:52

I don't know something

48:54

crashing through the woods like running through the woods

48:57

They had to been running the opposite direction because it was

49:02

It sounded very large The

49:06

guys are asking us what happened what happened what's going on I Wasn't

49:10

going on it saw it like Zane was over there with me

49:12

I Can't

49:15

believe That

49:18

we just saw that leg Zane

49:23

looked at me he was like leg

49:25

I saw an arm It

49:30

was a large red arm When

49:34

it moved it like spread its fingers Then

49:37

I can see that it was a hand that was gripped on the side

49:39

of the tree These

49:42

fingers were thick and red he

49:45

saw it push off the tree and that's when

49:47

he yells I'm

49:54

freaked out. I'm dumbfounded Even

49:57

up to this point it was hard for me to believe and

50:00

process what I had seen. When he described

50:02

it the same way, that it was large

50:04

and red,

50:08

and not just that, but that he saw the arm,

50:10

the hand grip and push off the tree

50:12

at the same time that I saw the leg

50:15

turn and go behind the tree, we

50:18

actually did see something. I

50:24

wasn't just seeing things because I was scared, or I wasn't

50:27

just seeing things because it was dark. It

50:29

was a very adrenaline fueled,

50:32

scary five minutes because we

50:34

now don't know what it was. And

50:43

it's out there. For

50:45

us to get back to the house,

50:49

we have to go past where we just

50:51

saw this thing. We

50:57

did not want to go past where we saw that thing and

51:00

get back

51:00

to the house. We stayed up for most

51:02

of the rest of the night. We eventually went into the tent

51:04

and just talked

51:05

about what it could have been, what we

51:07

thought it was. As

51:11

soon as the sun was up, we ran back to the house.

51:14

We didn't pack any of the stuff up. We left everything out there.

51:20

Once we were inside, like the safety of his bedroom,

51:23

we all crashed. And we all fell asleep.

51:32

In Southeast Ohio, they talk about the Grassman. Ohio's

51:39

version of Bigfoot. Growing

51:42

up right on the Ohio River and with my friends

51:45

living in Southeast Ohio, like the Grassman was

51:47

something we had heard a lot about. We

51:56

were very skeptical, and so I think

51:59

we were... kind of hesitant

52:01

to say, oh yeah it was a Bigfoot. We

52:04

didn't see its face. We

52:06

got an idea of how big it was. If

52:11

it's not Bigfoot, I don't know that the alternative is any

52:14

better. It might be scarier. If

52:17

it was a person out there messing with us, they

52:22

would have had to go into great lengths to do that. If

52:25

it wasn't a person, I genuinely

52:27

have no idea what it could have been. Something

52:35

happened that we couldn't really explain. We

52:40

didn't go in the woods anymore after that. We

52:43

had friends that

52:47

were like, we know we should go, we should go. Me and Zane

52:50

were like, no. Like

52:52

if you want to go camp over there, that's fine. I'm

52:55

not going.

52:55

There

53:00

you go.

53:01

Another Sasquatch sighting, right? Or

53:04

Bigfoot or something. Very,

53:07

very creepy. I've got another cool story for

53:09

you. Check this out.

53:11

My name is Kathy, and my husband

53:13

and I faced an incredibly stressful

53:15

situation back in 1998. And

53:18

to this very day, I still have trouble

53:21

wrapping my mind around the strangeness

53:23

of it all. I was a 41-year-old

53:26

single woman residing in La

53:28

Jolla, California, when I met

53:30

a man named Hector. He

53:32

was around my age, and I met him

53:34

during a community cleanup day, an

53:37

event that was held once per month where

53:39

people would come together and pick up trash in

53:41

public places like parks and beaches. I

53:44

felt like I must have always assumed the best

53:46

of everyone. I met at those gatherings

53:49

because it seemed that only well-intentioned,

53:52

selfless individuals would take time

53:54

out of their busy lives to do that sort

53:56

of thing. I'm not trying to say that

53:58

Hector was a malicious man. I'm just

54:00

implying that I probably assumed everyone

54:03

who attended those things was perfect and

54:06

could never attract any kind of trouble my way.

54:09

I was wrong.

54:10

At the time, I was working

54:12

as a receptionist at a veterinarian's

54:14

office. I'm a huge animal lover.

54:17

So in that regard, the position was heavenly.

54:20

Seeing all those lovely pets every day filled

54:22

me with joy. What wasn't so heavenly

54:24

was the pay. At least living in

54:26

California wasn't as expensive back then, so

54:29

I could still afford a one-bedroom apartment. The

54:32

place was tiny, but I have to say it had

54:34

charm and was within walking distance

54:36

of the water. I can't even begin to

54:38

imagine what the rent on that place would be now.

54:41

You probably need to have an arm and

54:43

leg every month. So

54:45

I'd been doing the same routine for a few years,

54:48

and I don't think I even fully realized

54:50

it at the time how desperate I was to change

54:52

things up. I needed something fresh.

54:56

Hector wasn't the most handsome of men, but

54:58

when he expressed his deep concern for sea life

55:01

choking to death on plastic, I

55:03

knew I was interacting with someone I

55:05

had a lot in common with. Hector

55:07

was five-six, which was an inch shorter

55:10

than me. Believe me when I

55:12

say I could never have a mision falling

55:15

for a man who was shorter than I. I

55:17

always had chuckled over that sort of thing on rare

55:19

occasions I came across it. Hector

55:22

seemed to admire the fact that I worked

55:24

at the veterinarian's office, and that was

55:26

when I knew we had mutual respect for one

55:29

another. It was nice to finally meet

55:31

a man who wasn't solely concerned

55:33

with finances. Every guy I

55:35

had dated before then was so stressed

55:37

about money. That negative energy

55:39

had a way of radiating off of them. In

55:42

truth, I had such consistent bad luck with

55:44

that kind of thing that it eventually made me

55:46

lose interest in dating. I couldn't remember

55:49

a point in my life where I ever felt aligned

55:51

with a man's energy. I think that's

55:53

also part of the reason why I ended up sticking

55:56

to my minimal paying job for so long. I

55:59

felt a solid connection to animals,

56:01

something I had never felt with men. But

56:04

Hector made me feel different right away.

56:06

There was something about his presence that immediately

56:09

felt like he could be a trustworthy friend. There

56:12

wasn't any kind of overwhelming pressure for

56:14

either of us to come up with ways to try

56:16

to impress one another, and that

56:19

was very comforting. One

56:21

thing led to the next, and within a few months of seeing

56:23

each other, he approached me about starting

56:25

a new life together down in Mexico.

56:27

He said it had always

56:29

been a dream to own a farm and

56:32

live in the peaceful countryside, away

56:34

from the chaos of cities. He

56:37

said he knew of a property that we could rent to own.

56:39

At first, I was a bit thrown off by

56:42

the proposition, but then I had

56:44

an inkling that it was an opportunity for me to

56:46

escape what had begun to feel like a very

56:48

uneventful life. Here

56:51

was a way for me to spread my wings

56:53

and try something spontaneous, you

56:56

know, to take a risk, see where it leads.

56:59

And on top of that, Hector had what sounded like

57:01

a very appealing plan. First,

57:04

he wanted to turn the property into a doggy

57:06

daycare. That way, we'd be able

57:08

to get a feel for the land while also earning

57:11

some money. He said he had already

57:13

had a good amount of cash saved up that would

57:15

provide a cushion for us to figure out how we wanted

57:17

our future farm to evolve. I

57:20

must have been so attracted to the romantic idea

57:22

of doing something new that my mind

57:24

was somewhat willing to ignore the fine

57:26

details of everything. I wasn't

57:28

considering that this whole plan could potentially

57:31

turn into a mess. And that's my

57:33

fault. I should have been more diligent. I

57:36

was so excited we arrived in the new town. Since

57:38

I still know and respect someone who resides there,

57:41

I'd rather not disclose the exact location.

57:44

But I will say that it's only a few hours south

57:46

of the border, the mountain range that

57:48

encompasses the place was beyond

57:51

beautiful. Instantly, I

57:53

felt like I had made the right choice. There

57:55

was so much space to do whatever the heck

57:58

we wanted. If we could eventually... afford

58:00

it, there was plenty of land for horses

58:03

to roam freely. I was excited.

58:05

I immediately met a couple

58:07

named Diego and Alejandra. Both

58:10

Hector and Diego referred to Alejandra

58:12

as Al. I

58:14

turned out it turned out I'm sorry that Diego was

58:16

Hector's slightly older half-brother. It

58:19

was during that introduction that I felt there might

58:21

be some tension between the two brothers.

58:24

Diego was significantly older and

58:27

I couldn't help but feel he disapproved

58:29

of Hector, perhaps due to his past

58:32

mistakes. I was reluctant to

58:34

allow any chance of my new life starting

58:36

off on the wrong foot, so I

58:39

decided to ignore what whatever was going on between

58:41

the two men. Ale and I quickly

58:43

hit it off, which created a nice distraction

58:46

from the looming negative energy. Ale

58:49

was the first one to accompany me to pick out a dog

58:51

from the nearest animal shelter. She

58:54

also helped me design flyers that

58:56

we gave to the facility, not

58:59

notifying them that Hector and I were

59:01

opening a doggy daycare. We

59:03

wanted all the locals to know that they had a very

59:05

affordable destination to drop

59:07

off their pets whenever they were leaving town

59:10

or working overtime. We

59:12

came up with a clever name for the business that

59:14

I wish I could disclose, but it's probably the best

59:17

that I don't, just in case that

59:19

can somehow be traced. Our

59:21

first dog was a yellow lab and

59:23

beagle crossbreed named Willie. That

59:26

was already his name when we picked him up. I

59:28

didn't care for the name, but since the dog

59:30

was already five years old and responded to

59:32

it rather well, it seemed

59:34

logical to leave it. Willie

59:37

appeared to be to feel right at home. As

59:39

soon as we let him out of the car, I got the impression

59:42

that he had never before experienced that

59:44

much room to run around. A few

59:46

days after we opened up shop, Diego

59:48

approached me in private. He handed

59:50

me a few pages of forms explaining that he

59:53

was happy to have me as a tenant and felt

59:55

that he could trust me. The whole

59:57

thing threw me off.

59:59

The forum

59:59

That clearly stated the amount we still owed for

1:00:02

both the deposit plus the

1:00:04

first and last month rent. Confused,

1:00:07

I was about to ask Diego what all this was

1:00:09

about when things started to become more apparent.

1:00:12

I never doubted that Hector had feelings for me, but

1:00:15

that was a separate subject from exaggerating

1:00:17

about how much money he had saved up.

1:00:20

Perhaps he was even in debt, and he needed a

1:00:22

loving partner to help him get back on his feet.

1:00:26

I was trying. That was the angle that I chose to

1:00:28

view it from. Although I was a tad

1:00:31

disheartened, I was also hesitant

1:00:33

to cause a stir that would interfere with my

1:00:35

exciting transition. And for some reason,

1:00:38

I had such a good feeling about the dog daycare

1:00:40

business that I assumed that we could fix

1:00:42

any financial situation and mend things

1:00:44

between Hector and his brother. We

1:00:47

had only had Willie for maybe three days at the most

1:00:50

when I thought he had run away. Neither

1:00:52

Hector nor I could find him anywhere. We

1:00:54

allowed him to roam the property freely because

1:00:57

he was so good about coming to us whenever we called

1:00:59

his name. Anyway, a fence

1:01:01

encompassed a large property, so he'd only

1:01:04

been able to go so far even if he was

1:01:06

chasing a wild animal. Hector

1:01:08

ended up being the one to find Willie's body. He

1:01:11

brought me over with a flashlight. I'm

1:01:13

not exaggerating at all when I say that

1:01:15

our dog appeared as though he had been life

1:01:18

– like it looked like he had the life sucked out of him. And

1:01:21

the light color of his fur made it easy

1:01:24

to spot two deep puncture marks

1:01:26

in his abdomen. He also had several

1:01:29

lacerations all over his body, suggesting

1:01:32

that there had been a struggle. But

1:01:34

nothing was as prominent as those puncture

1:01:36

marks. Hector even mentioned

1:01:38

how it looked like a vampire had attacked Willie.

1:01:41

On top of feeling extremely sad over the loss

1:01:43

of our new friend, something

1:01:46

made me feel very uneasy about

1:01:48

being out there. That was when

1:01:50

I began to wonder whether it was wise

1:01:52

to be out,

1:01:53

especially out there, after dark.

1:01:56

That was the first moment I questioned whether

1:01:59

I had made the right moved by starting a new life

1:02:02

in Mexico. Something

1:02:04

about seeing Willy's corpse with those

1:02:06

puncture marks was simply not right. Hector

1:02:09

said whatever he could do to try to comfort

1:02:11

me, but I could tell you that he

1:02:14

was disturbed by the scene. He claimed

1:02:16

to be a man of faith, and later that night

1:02:18

he confessed some things. Hector

1:02:21

said he felt guilty about many of his past acts,

1:02:23

and that demons had lurked around him for years.

1:02:26

He interpreted Willy's death as a sign that he

1:02:29

might be next on the chopping block, if

1:02:31

you know what I mean. The man cried

1:02:33

while explaining this stuff to me, and

1:02:36

I had to interrupt him multiple times

1:02:38

to prevent him from revealing things I'd rather not

1:02:40

know. To calm him down,

1:02:42

I tried to emphasize that dwelling on the past

1:02:45

was counterproductive, and that we were currently

1:02:47

trying to do a good thing by building several

1:02:49

honest businesses. I told him

1:02:51

that the only way to move forward was to focus

1:02:53

on the task at hand, and he seemed

1:02:56

to agree. That night was

1:02:58

when it became apparent why Diego was skeptical

1:03:00

about having his younger brother around. It

1:03:03

made me respect Diego a lot more

1:03:05

for his willingness to put up with Hector at all. So

1:03:08

many people would have seen association with someone like

1:03:10

Hector as too big of a risk. I

1:03:13

suspect Al had a way of softening

1:03:15

the stern man up a bit. We

1:03:18

barely had time to consider what had killed Willy

1:03:20

when a potential customer called us the following

1:03:22

day. They wanted to drop off their

1:03:24

two dogs before they left town for the weekend.

1:03:28

Without hesitating, I agreed. Even

1:03:30

though I was still disturbed, there was no

1:03:32

beating around the fact that we needed to make some

1:03:34

money. Sure, Diego was acting

1:03:37

graciously for the time being, but

1:03:39

I knew he'd use any opportunity to kick Hector

1:03:41

out. I was desperate, to

1:03:43

confirm that we'd be able to stay afloat. Our

1:03:47

first official patrons were a pit

1:03:49

bull and a scraggly mutt that

1:03:51

looked like it was part Aussie and part shepherd.

1:03:54

I was believed that there were

1:03:56

two of them because I figured a predator would

1:03:58

be a lot less likely to

1:03:59

approach.

1:04:01

It was in the evening when Hector and I heard

1:04:03

a barrage of barking. Both

1:04:05

dogs had been pretty quiet the entire day,

1:04:08

leading up into that point. So I

1:04:10

knew that there had to be a good reason that

1:04:12

they then decided to sound the alarms. At

1:04:15

the time, I was actually on the phone with another

1:04:17

potential customer, and I politely asked

1:04:19

if I could call her back. As

1:04:22

Hector and I speedily walked in the

1:04:24

direction of the frantic barks, that same

1:04:26

overwhelmingly anxious feeling as before,

1:04:29

washed over me. It became

1:04:31

increasingly apparent that something was terribly

1:04:34

wrong, and soon I received

1:04:36

confirmation why. The

1:04:38

mutt ran around the weird-looking creature, keeping

1:04:41

a safe distance, hysterically

1:04:43

barking and growling as it watched

1:04:46

the consumption of the pit bull. To

1:04:48

me, the large gray animal

1:04:50

looked like a combination between

1:04:53

a dog and a pig. From

1:04:56

where I stood, it didn't appear to have any hair

1:04:58

at all. A long and thin,

1:05:01

ratty tail, sporadically wiggled

1:05:03

from the end of its body. Its back

1:05:05

was towards us, but it was only a few

1:05:08

moments after we saw that it turned its head

1:05:10

to look at us. Even though it didn't

1:05:12

seem interested in attacking, its

1:05:14

body language warned us not to come

1:05:16

any closer. Like

1:05:18

most predators, it was willing to do whatever

1:05:21

it had to defend its prey. It

1:05:23

wasn't long before I noticed Hector was muttering

1:05:26

something in Spanish, and I later found

1:05:28

out he was praying. To him,

1:05:30

this creature was none other than a demon, and

1:05:33

he was convinced that he was its primary

1:05:35

target. I wanted to do something to

1:05:37

help the other dog away from the scene safely,

1:05:40

but neither of us was armed. The

1:05:43

weird creature glared at us a few times before

1:05:45

we finally started backing away. What's

1:05:48

all this noise about, Diego greeted us once

1:05:50

we were nearly back at our house. I

1:05:53

told him there's a strange predator

1:05:55

out there, and it attacked one of the dogs,

1:05:58

which prompted him to immediately fetch a gun

1:06:00

and drive his SUV towards the scene. Soon

1:06:04

after that, we noticed a constant barking

1:06:06

had ceased. I so badly hoped

1:06:08

that the other dog hadn't been killed as well. That

1:06:11

would have meant three dead dogs within a matter

1:06:13

of just a few days. I

1:06:16

felt uneasy, but there's no question

1:06:18

that Hector was by far the most disturbed. He

1:06:20

paced back and forth in front of the house until

1:06:23

Diego drove back and informed us that there was nothing

1:06:25

there, not even a corpse. I

1:06:28

suspected that the predator ran off with

1:06:30

his prey when it heard the approaching vehicle. Diego

1:06:34

said he couldn't find the other dog either. I

1:06:36

had trouble accepting that, so I asked

1:06:39

him to drive me back to the scene so I could

1:06:41

help search the area. Diego

1:06:43

wasn't exaggerating when he said there was nothing, and

1:06:46

there was something so ghostly about the place.

1:06:49

It was as though you could feel the recent carnage

1:06:51

in the air. I woke up the next

1:06:53

morning to learn that Hector had fled town. He

1:06:56

at least cared enough to leave a note suggesting

1:06:58

that I vacate the land before

1:07:00

it's too late. He again

1:07:03

mentioned his belief that it was a demon, that

1:07:05

we saw sucking the blood from that dog. He

1:07:08

insisted that it was a bad omen, one

1:07:10

that suggested he was next. It

1:07:13

seemed to me that he thought he would be spending

1:07:15

the rest of his days looking over his shoulder. When

1:07:18

I informed Diego that Hector had left in

1:07:21

the middle of the night, he explained his brother

1:07:23

blamed himself for someone's death over 20

1:07:26

years earlier. He didn't go into too

1:07:28

much detail, but it sounded like Hector

1:07:30

was part of a gang that murdered someone

1:07:33

somewhere in Mexico. I have no

1:07:35

idea how much involvement he had in

1:07:37

the actual act, but something about

1:07:39

the event made him think that he would eventually

1:07:42

have to pay a terrible price.

1:07:45

So I can kind of see why he would think

1:07:48

the appearance of that very demonic looking beast

1:07:51

would scare him enough to leave town. I

1:07:53

can't say for sure whether it wasn't

1:07:56

an excuse to leave me, but his note

1:07:58

stated that I would never be safe as

1:08:01

long as he was around me, and I didn't

1:08:03

deserve that. According

1:08:05

to the note, I had too beautiful of a soul

1:08:07

to be anywhere near that kind of darkness.

1:08:10

Maybe Alejandra

1:08:12

had some influence on the matter, but Diego was kind

1:08:14

enough to get rid of the contract that we had

1:08:16

signed, saying that he trusted

1:08:18

me, but he had fully been prepared for

1:08:20

things to fall through on his brother's end. That

1:08:24

very next day I began my move

1:08:26

back to California. I know

1:08:28

this might sound awful, but I'm so

1:08:30

glad I never had to look those dog owners

1:08:32

in the eyes and tell them what happened. That

1:08:35

would have made things even far more heartbreaking.

1:08:38

Unfortunately, Ale was probably the

1:08:41

one who had to handle that. Of

1:08:43

course, I did quite a bit

1:08:45

of investigating into what kind of animal

1:08:47

that could have been. It wasn't

1:08:49

long before I learned about the Chupacabra,

1:08:53

and that research became so much easier

1:08:55

with the advancement of the internet. There

1:08:58

are several reports out there

1:09:00

near that location that match the description

1:09:02

of what Hector and I saw. Some

1:09:04

people think it's the physical manifestation

1:09:07

of a demon, whereas I tend to lean

1:09:09

more towards the theory that it's an undistovered

1:09:11

animal species. Perhaps it

1:09:13

has some relation to the vampire bat.

1:09:16

I don't know. It's because of that whole experience

1:09:19

that I will forever remain open-minded to other

1:09:21

people's stories. I don't think

1:09:23

I ever would have believed in my encounter had

1:09:26

I not been the one to experience it

1:09:28

myself. I feel horrible

1:09:31

for the dogs that were taken that day, but

1:09:33

I'd like to hope that the one I didn't witness

1:09:35

the creature attack was eventually found.

1:09:38

I suppose I'll never know. Thanks,

1:09:42

Cathy. Well, Cathy,

1:09:44

that's an incredible story. A

1:09:46

Chupacabra. You know, there's several

1:09:49

depictions. We live in Texas, so there's

1:09:51

a lot of potential Chupacabra

1:09:53

sightings in this state, and they range

1:09:55

from a hairless-looking coyote

1:09:58

to a reptilian-looking coyote. creature if you're in Puerto

1:10:00

Rico. Like there's different versions of

1:10:03

the Chupacabra, very, very

1:10:05

creepy story. Before we leave,

1:10:07

I got another story. I've gone through guys to check

1:10:10

this out. Now, you know, I,

1:10:12

everybody who follows the show know that,

1:10:14

uh, me and Camber both hunters. So this one kind

1:10:16

of hits home. This next story

1:10:19

I want you to listen to comes from

1:10:21

a fellow hunter in East Texas

1:10:23

who purchased a new night vision

1:10:25

scope in an attempt to hunt feral

1:10:28

hogs. Now, this is a common practice

1:10:30

here in Texas. In fact, Cam just

1:10:32

killed two feral hogs with his recurve just

1:10:35

a few days ago. If you go on Instagram, you can see

1:10:37

a picture of it, of one of them. He's

1:10:40

a real bad man. Feral hogs, if

1:10:42

you don't know, are a big problem here in Texas

1:10:45

and they're everywhere, they destroy millions

1:10:47

of dollars of crops each year, and there's

1:10:50

no limit on how many of them you can kill because

1:10:52

there's such a problem. The state just wants

1:10:54

them done, but

1:10:56

it'll never happen.

1:10:58

Because a feral hog can have up to three litters

1:11:00

a year and each litter has four to 10

1:11:03

piglets each time, and they

1:11:05

have the ability to start reproducing at only

1:11:07

six or eight months old. So they have,

1:11:09

they, they explode, right? They're everywhere.

1:11:12

They are mostly nocturnal. And that's

1:11:14

why lots of people prefer to hunt them at night.

1:11:17

And they use night vision scopes because

1:11:19

ordinary scopes won't work. This guy

1:11:22

that you're about to hear is one of these guys.

1:11:25

He's out here alone in the woods hunting

1:11:27

for feral hogs when he runs into

1:11:29

something he never expected.

1:11:31

Let's listen.

1:11:33

I had always been a hunter.

1:11:39

The hobby is pretty

1:11:41

expensive. I

1:11:44

was always looking for avenues to hunt

1:11:46

on a budget. I

1:11:49

specifically liked to hunt boar.

1:11:52

Boar are an issue in the United States

1:11:55

where they produce

1:11:58

at a rate that. the

1:12:00

Department of Fish and Wildlife can't keep up

1:12:02

with. They eat up crops,

1:12:05

they destroy the wildlife. New

1:12:08

Mexico and Texas both allow

1:12:11

the hunting of ore with

1:12:13

night vision. I

1:12:15

have been going down the rabbit hole

1:12:18

researching the base

1:12:21

entry scope that I could buy

1:12:23

that I could go

1:12:25

and enjoy a night of hunting

1:12:27

with night optics. I

1:12:30

had found a scope for a good

1:12:32

price. I wanted to dip

1:12:34

my toes into that facet of hunting.

1:12:39

I was initially supposed

1:12:41

to go on that hunt with other people.

1:12:43

You're supposed to go on them with

1:12:46

other people. You'll

1:12:48

have people that are all

1:12:51

set to go that flake out at

1:12:53

the last second. There was a little of

1:12:55

that happening. I didn't

1:12:57

want to be one to

1:12:59

back down from

1:13:02

a hunt just because I didn't have other people

1:13:04

there to hold my hand.

1:13:06

The area that I go hunting

1:13:09

my friends and I enjoyed

1:13:11

a lot of leeway with because of

1:13:14

the public lands. A lot of lands

1:13:16

in Texas are bought up and owned.

1:13:19

So it was an area that we could enjoy

1:13:21

that not a lot of people had access to.

1:13:26

Loaded up my truck, drove out

1:13:28

to the spot, managed

1:13:30

to use a game trail to get to a spot that

1:13:32

I had in mind. I

1:13:35

set myself up a perch

1:13:38

that I could be in for a

1:13:40

prolonged period of time. Got my

1:13:43

gear set up, started

1:13:46

to find landmarks

1:13:49

at different yardages. One at 25,

1:13:53

50, sighting in the area in increments

1:13:55

of 25 yards. The area

1:13:59

was surprisingly

1:14:02

still. Not

1:14:04

a lot of things were making noise. I'd

1:14:08

been out in that area before even

1:14:11

at nighttime. There's

1:14:14

still a lot of wildlife that's not been

1:14:16

active. A lot of things are nocturnal. There

1:14:19

are a lot of things that

1:14:21

we did at night.

1:14:25

I had my back propped up against

1:14:28

a tree for comfort.

1:14:30

After a couple hours of that

1:14:33

position, I really wanted

1:14:35

to do something. There

1:14:38

was another area

1:14:40

that wasn't exactly better or worse

1:14:42

than the spot that I was currently in. I picked

1:14:45

up my gear and moved. It

1:14:48

gave me something to do at that moment. Maybe

1:14:50

I'd see something. Maybe

1:14:52

if I set up, maybe I'd get another angle.

1:14:58

As I set up, I'm glassing the area, setting

1:15:00

up new landmarks. I

1:15:03

had noticed something

1:15:06

moving.

1:15:09

I could see it in the brush.

1:15:13

Assumed I was looking at a black bear. It

1:15:18

was moving dominantly on their hind legs

1:15:21

but still using their front legs to get

1:15:24

through foliage.

1:15:27

I thought that it was interesting that

1:15:30

he was moving in the direction

1:15:32

that I had just left.

1:15:35

It's straight towards my

1:15:37

previous spot.

1:15:40

He got to the spot that I was

1:15:42

just at

1:15:44

and the tree that I was just propped up

1:15:46

against.

1:15:48

I noticed as he got upright, it

1:15:52

wasn't a bear at all.

1:15:55

was

1:16:01

transfixed with

1:16:03

the area that I had just left.

1:16:06

He was running his hands up and down the tree

1:16:08

examining the bark. He

1:16:11

was smelling the area that I

1:16:13

was at. He

1:16:16

moved like an animal. He was moving like

1:16:18

a person. I

1:16:22

could see his form and

1:16:25

as I adjusted my optics

1:16:27

to get a better look at him, I

1:16:30

saw that he wasn't clothed.

1:16:34

He didn't have anything to protect him

1:16:36

from getting through the foliage that he was just

1:16:38

crawling around through. He was

1:16:43

naked head to toe. Once

1:16:48

he had gotten done getting the information

1:16:50

that he wanted out of that tree,

1:16:53

he squatted down and

1:16:56

put his palms between his feet

1:17:00

and aimed his head straight up the

1:17:03

way that you would imagine dog or coyote

1:17:05

howls. It's

1:17:08

at that moment I heard

1:17:11

a voice call out from

1:17:13

his direction. A

1:17:16

voice that I would never imagine to come

1:17:19

from that frame. I thought that I was looking

1:17:21

at adult age man, but

1:17:23

the voice that came from that

1:17:26

person was a distinctly female voice.

1:17:31

Help, I'm lost.

1:17:33

Is anyone there?

1:17:36

Please. Everything

1:17:41

was rushing through my brain. I

1:17:43

felt petrified and confused in

1:17:45

the

1:17:46

strongest senses of the word.

1:17:50

I allow a little bit of time. I

1:17:52

try to think about what I should do next.

1:17:56

I'm trying to understand whether this person is

1:17:58

lost.

1:18:01

Before I can really get an action

1:18:03

out of me, they call out again.

1:18:07

Help! I'm hurt. I can't walk.

1:18:10

Can somebody

1:18:13

help me?

1:18:15

That's when everything clicked

1:18:18

into me. This

1:18:20

person didn't need help.

1:18:23

This person could walk.

1:18:25

And they were moving through the brush and the

1:18:27

foliage better than I could. This

1:18:32

person is trying to trick me.

1:18:35

What this person is saying isn't

1:18:38

true. This

1:18:40

person is trying to get me to go to where

1:18:42

they're at. I

1:18:48

start to get all my gear together

1:18:50

frantically.

1:18:52

They needed to get my backpack on and

1:18:55

I needed to get my rifle back up. I

1:18:57

needed to keep my eyes on this person

1:19:00

that I know that I can't trust. I

1:19:05

bring my rifle up and

1:19:07

I get my eyes behind the optic.

1:19:10

I see that this person is still

1:19:13

in that position.

1:19:15

Their head is pointed in my direction.

1:19:20

I got that distinct feeling

1:19:22

that we were making eye contact. I

1:19:26

could see their cheekbones. I could see

1:19:29

their jaw. I could see their teeth.

1:19:32

All of the details that I would need to see

1:19:35

a wide smile across a person's

1:19:37

face. Like

1:19:39

someone just got a punchline to a joke.

1:19:45

At that point I knew this person was

1:19:47

looking for me. This

1:19:51

person now had a good idea of where

1:19:54

I was.

1:19:59

rides towards me.

1:20:03

That was all I needed. I was freaking

1:20:05

out. Whatever

1:20:07

was going to happen next didn't

1:20:09

feel like it was going to be

1:20:10

good for me.

1:20:14

I discharged my rifle and I sent around

1:20:16

sailing over his head. A

1:20:19

normal person would run

1:20:22

away,

1:20:24

be frightened in some way before him, but

1:20:26

he wasn't. He

1:20:28

was still transfixed

1:20:31

on me. The gunshot

1:20:34

that just went off over his head hadn't

1:20:36

deterred him. I

1:20:39

have no issues with pointing my crosshairs

1:20:41

directly at him.

1:20:45

We stood there staring at each

1:20:47

other for a long time. It

1:20:50

felt like an eternity. I

1:20:54

was prepared to let that trigger

1:20:56

touch off if he continued

1:20:59

to come into my direction. Almost

1:21:03

like a jump scare out of a horror

1:21:05

movie. It's something that clicked in his head.

1:21:09

He bolted to my left. I

1:21:13

could not keep him in my scope. I was really

1:21:15

struggling. Brush

1:21:18

and trees are getting in between. He

1:21:20

and I, I'm only

1:21:22

getting flickers of the white of his

1:21:24

heat signature through the tree line.

1:21:28

I wanted to let him know, hey, I

1:21:30

still see you. So

1:21:32

I sent another round into the tree line after

1:21:35

him. Still very high in

1:21:37

his direction. I

1:21:40

wanted to hear the branches crack. I

1:21:42

wanted him to know that

1:21:45

I know where you're going. I

1:21:48

became very aware that the gear that I had

1:21:50

on me was not set up

1:21:52

to get in a fight with somebody. I

1:21:56

really wanted a fresh magazine inside

1:21:59

of my gun. because it only carries five

1:22:01

rounds. I was fumbling around

1:22:04

looking for a fresh one, and as I

1:22:06

dropped the one that was in the weapon, it hit the

1:22:08

ground. I didn't even bother looking for it. He

1:22:12

was only getting deeper and deeper into

1:22:14

the trees, opposite of the direction

1:22:17

that I needed to go. I

1:22:20

didn't want him to regroup. I didn't

1:22:23

want him to get his confidence

1:22:25

back. I decided

1:22:28

that this was a good opportunity for me to

1:22:30

get out of there. I wanted

1:22:32

to get to my truck and I wanted to leave. Start

1:22:36

to get all my gear together frantically.

1:22:39

All of my movements aren't nearly

1:22:41

as adept as they usually are, there's

1:22:44

no dexterity to what I'm doing. I'm

1:22:46

sure I left things behind, but I

1:22:48

didn't care. I just really needed to get my backpack

1:22:51

on. I

1:22:53

start running back to my truck as fast as I

1:22:55

can, and I start

1:22:57

to hear him. He

1:23:01

starts to give off this awful scream,

1:23:03

really

1:23:05

just wailing into the night.

1:23:09

He's not really saying anything. He's not

1:23:11

calling out to me. Sounded

1:23:14

like if you blended a laugh and cried

1:23:16

together. The

1:23:20

sound must have been playing

1:23:23

tricks because I couldn't tell if

1:23:25

it was coming from left, if it was

1:23:27

coming from right. I

1:23:30

could swear that it was coming in front of me. 15 minutes

1:23:35

to get to where I was at, but

1:23:37

I made my way back

1:23:38

to the truck in half that time.

1:23:42

Seeing that truck was probably one of the most

1:23:44

beautiful things I'd ever seen. I

1:23:47

got the keys and the ignition and I backed up

1:23:51

and drove back the way that I came as fast

1:23:53

as I could. I

1:23:56

remember feeling frightened that whole time. this

1:24:00

awful feeling of anxiety. It

1:24:04

wasn't until my truck got back

1:24:06

onto the freeway and I

1:24:08

was speeding back towards my house that

1:24:11

I got any sense of security. That

1:24:15

fight or flight reflex, that's

1:24:18

a hell of a drug. It

1:24:24

was one of my go-to campfire stories

1:24:26

for a very long time until

1:24:29

my nephew had heard the

1:24:31

story. And

1:24:34

he started telling me about when

1:24:37

to goes and rakes

1:24:39

and things like that. I

1:24:42

think it frightened him that I had never

1:24:44

heard of any of that. And I think

1:24:46

it frightened him that when I was

1:24:48

telling him that story, we

1:24:50

were camping. The

1:24:53

area that we were camped out that night

1:24:56

was the same woods.

1:24:59

He refused to stay

1:25:01

at that campsite that night.

1:25:04

His mom was real upset with me because

1:25:06

she had to take him back home.

1:25:09

He would not stay out in that campsite that night.

1:25:16

Well, very, very

1:25:19

creepy.

1:25:20

You know, as I reflect on these peculiar

1:25:22

and spine-chilling experiences, I

1:25:24

find myself grappling with questions of

1:25:27

interpretation. Could these

1:25:29

accounts be mere misunderstandings or

1:25:31

products of a deranged imagination? I

1:25:34

find it hard to accept such explanations.

1:25:38

The impact these encounters have had on those

1:25:40

who have lived through them is undeniable,

1:25:43

leaving an indelible mark on their lives,

1:25:46

one that they will carry with them for the rest of their

1:25:48

lives. Moreover, the

1:25:50

unsettling reality of missing individuals

1:25:52

in these remote areas cannot

1:25:55

be dismissed as mere hallucinations. It

1:25:58

is a tangible phenomenon. a

1:26:00

grim fact that underscores the mysteries

1:26:02

of the wilderness and leaves us with

1:26:04

more questions than answers. Please

1:26:08

don't misunderstand me. I'm not

1:26:10

suggesting that we should avoid the great outdoors

1:26:12

or forsake camping, hiking

1:26:14

and even hunting. God no. In

1:26:17

fact, I'm going hunting in a few hours. However,

1:26:20

I can assure you that these stories will linger

1:26:23

in my mind as I sit in the dark,

1:26:25

alone,

1:26:26

with nothing but a recurve bow and five

1:26:29

semi-sharp arrows. It's

1:26:31

only natural to acknowledge that something

1:26:34

peculiar is going on in the woods,

1:26:37

even though the nature of it remains elusive.

1:26:40

It might be a singular phenomenon or

1:26:42

a convergence of multiple enigmas

1:26:45

occurring simultaneously. The

1:26:47

next time you're in the woods, all I'm saying

1:26:50

is just be careful. Be mindful

1:26:52

of your surroundings. Take precautions.

1:26:56

A fire arm. A nice. A satellite

1:26:59

phone.

1:27:00

Or a tracking beacon. Hell,

1:27:02

even an air tag. Something is

1:27:04

better than nothing.

1:27:06

It's a strange world out there. I hope

1:27:08

you've enjoyed these stories. While

1:27:11

I'm at it, I'm so glad that we're able

1:27:13

to share our passion and these stories

1:27:16

of the paranormal. I can't believe

1:27:18

we've been doing this week after week for

1:27:20

over 10 years now. You

1:27:22

know, when I was a kid, I

1:27:25

was enamored with television shows like Unsolved

1:27:28

Mysteries or In Search

1:27:30

of with Leonard Nimoy, my

1:27:32

uncles and my father. And I didn't

1:27:34

know why. I guess it was fate.

1:27:37

I had no clue that one day I would be doing

1:27:39

the same thing and very successfully.

1:27:42

Who knows? There might be some kid

1:27:44

out there who hears my voice and

1:27:47

thinks of me as I once did of Robert's

1:27:49

staff, George Knapp, Art

1:27:51

Bell or Leonard Nimoy, and

1:27:53

be consumed with strange tales of the paranormal,

1:27:57

UFOs and even cryptid creatures.

1:28:00

And that makes me happy. I hope you

1:28:02

all are happy. Because of the digital

1:28:04

age, my voice will outlive me for

1:28:06

sure. My voice will go on

1:28:08

and on. For how long? I

1:28:11

don't know. I hope many decades

1:28:13

after I'm gone, people will still enjoy

1:28:15

hearing me share these strange stories

1:28:18

as much as I enjoy telling them, and

1:28:20

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And we're back with expanded perspective. Very

1:30:24

cool stories. It's scary, but yet true,

1:30:27

there are lots of people that go missing

1:30:29

in the national forest, on private

1:30:31

land, it doesn't matter, but all in throughout

1:30:34

North America and the rest of the world, but especially here

1:30:36

in North America, there's a lot of missing

1:30:38

people. Not just

1:30:40

hunters, but campers, people that are

1:30:42

all out hiking, they go into the woods and they disappear

1:30:45

under mysterious circumstances, never to be found or heard

1:30:48

from again. It is quite alarming

1:30:50

when you think about the sheer number of

1:30:53

how many people go missing and what is happening to them.

1:30:56

Is it all one phenomenon? Is it all

1:30:59

Bigfoot or is it all alien abduction? Yeah,

1:31:01

that's a good point. Is it say, I mean,

1:31:04

what is it? I don't think it's one thing. I think it's

1:31:06

a collection of different things happening to different

1:31:08

people. I mean, is it possible that a

1:31:10

person could just be out walking and accidentally

1:31:12

walk through a portal? I don't

1:31:15

know. We've read stories on the air where people

1:31:17

are hiking and they have what they experience is

1:31:19

like a time slip where all of a sudden they

1:31:21

come upon an old looking town

1:31:23

and they walk amongst the

1:31:25

streets and the shops and everything and there's

1:31:28

no people there. The windows look grimy,

1:31:30

everything looks not looked

1:31:33

after and old and then a few minutes later

1:31:36

they come out of it and then all the bird

1:31:38

sounds return, insects, the breeze

1:31:41

and two hours have gone by and

1:31:43

they felt like they were only

1:31:45

there for 10 minutes. Do you hear things like

1:31:47

that? Does that happen and some people can't

1:31:49

get back out? Like you mentioned earlier, stranger

1:31:52

things, you know, with the upside down, that's kind of like

1:31:54

what they're referring to is there's

1:31:56

these parallel dimensions that are

1:31:58

similar to ours. different? It's

1:32:01

man, some of it

1:32:03

I do know that you know like we've talked about it has

1:32:05

been the tires have been pumped up dramatically

1:32:08

on some of the stories and some

1:32:10

of them aren't quite as odd

1:32:12

or strange as we know and as you pilfer through

1:32:14

those but there are some that

1:32:17

it is truly like the world itself

1:32:19

opened up and swallowed them. Yeah. And

1:32:21

it does feel like when you hear these stories

1:32:23

of portals right or you know

1:32:26

people claim to see Bigfoot moving

1:32:28

into portals or whatnot it does make me

1:32:30

think about it and also it makes me think about all

1:32:32

the the areas when people talk about going hiking

1:32:34

and they find all the crazy thing that happens around

1:32:37

all of this possible crystals or

1:32:39

granite or quartz or any of these yeah

1:32:41

crazy things like there could be portals there

1:32:43

like we don't know but there's odd thing is there's a lot

1:32:46

of that in the areas that these people that go

1:32:48

missing on national you know forest lands in

1:32:50

that area it's

1:32:52

also to

1:32:54

a lot of people don't and

1:32:56

and and you know everybody might but you kind of take it for granted

1:32:58

from time to time when you really understand

1:33:00

just how vast some of that area is.

1:33:03

Oh yeah. Right like you mean like cuz even

1:33:05

with me cuz I'm like man I know that we've we've

1:33:08

seen a lot of this but when you think about

1:33:10

one person out in the middle of some of that

1:33:12

area heavily wooded we're not talking about

1:33:15

anything but like heavily wooded it

1:33:17

would be hard to find someone it

1:33:20

would be hard to find someone on 500

1:33:23

acres if they were just piled up under the brush

1:33:25

somewhere dead. Right and

1:33:27

people always are like well you know say somebody fell

1:33:29

and you know they had a compound fracture to the leg

1:33:31

and yeah you know how come we didn't find any

1:33:34

of them you'd be surprised at

1:33:36

how fast mother nature will take

1:33:38

a body and just remember it disperse

1:33:40

it all the creatures will eat it I mean and you won't

1:33:42

find the bones unless you know exactly where to look I mean otherwise

1:33:45

every time you went out in the woods you'd be like walking through a

1:33:47

bone field yeah you know what I mean cuz I've

1:33:50

seen deer dead and

1:33:52

then three days later there's hardly anything

1:33:54

left in two weeks later you'd never know you never

1:33:57

never was on there yeah I mean it's remarkable

1:34:00

Everything from birds to everything will

1:34:02

just pick up little bones and carry them off that

1:34:05

one body will be just dispersed Well

1:34:07

look at the number of like the squirrels and

1:34:09

field mice and rats and all that stuff that will

1:34:12

eat the antlers That will try

1:34:14

to get to the marrow and the bones things like

1:34:16

the some of the bones you find her You know they're

1:34:19

not a lot of them, but like you said it's scattered everywhere

1:34:21

Imagine they don't have clothes clothes is the one

1:34:24

thing that always has shoes clothes something But

1:34:26

if you took them all off well, then yeah,

1:34:28

I mean it's basically good luck and

1:34:30

now it's in a massive forest area I mean

1:34:33

like I said they're out there or animals

1:34:35

to predate on the remains Right

1:34:38

so say nothing paranormal happens somebody like

1:34:40

just fell down into the sun and the fire

1:34:43

out there. Yeah I'm gonna stay on the trail out

1:34:45

in the middle of nowhere about unless you knew exactly

1:34:47

where to look You know in a 10,000 acre

1:34:49

National Park. I mean good luck. Yeah. Yeah,

1:34:52

it's not but then there are the

1:34:55

stories where This guy

1:34:57

is hunting with a group of friends.

1:35:00

They go to the same area all the time. They've been hunting

1:35:02

for 30 years They know their way around the woods

1:35:04

the guy goes hunting and they don't

1:35:06

find him They find his rifle propped up ago on the train

1:35:09

They find his shoes a mile farther down

1:35:12

Uphill sometimes in the opposite direction

1:35:14

of safety the crazy does a not make

1:35:16

any sense if you're like Oh, yeah, when you get hypothermia

1:35:19

you'll start taking clothes up No, but some of

1:35:21

these cases the people are gone in 30 minutes.

1:35:24

Yes Yeah, you're not gonna develop hypothermia 30

1:35:26

minutes like just out of your mind. It's

1:35:29

so it's crazy strange and then

1:35:32

You know then they find the cases where they actually find people

1:35:35

for whatever reason I always seem to find the children when

1:35:37

adults go missing. They don't really find them And

1:35:40

then if I was kids and they're like, how did the kids

1:35:43

survive? He's three years old, right? He

1:35:45

traveled 18 miles over two rivers

1:35:47

and over a mountain and here he is and

1:35:49

his feet are clean feet are clean Yeah,

1:35:53

the shirts put on backwards, you know, it's

1:35:55

just odd odd If

1:35:57

you like like doing in the woods and you

1:36:00

enjoy being in the outdoors and

1:36:02

you enjoy sleeping restfully at night. Don't

1:36:04

think too much about this topic. That's

1:36:06

what I just leave it alone. Yeah. I think about it every time

1:36:09

I'm hunting by myself. I'm like, no, that's not real.

1:36:11

Then they're like, man, maybe that's real. I've been on this land

1:36:13

that we're hunting on now for what, six years,

1:36:15

seven years now, all over it, all

1:36:18

over it. And there's still not

1:36:20

a time that at least happens once

1:36:23

a week where you kind of get a little creepy feeling

1:36:25

where you're just like, and like we've said before, there

1:36:27

have been sightings in

1:36:30

and around the area where we're at

1:36:32

for years. Yeah. It's still

1:36:34

just, I've not heard any

1:36:37

in a while and there's a lot of people moved in and

1:36:39

building stuff around there and out there and that

1:36:41

may be what it was. But a few

1:36:43

years back, they was sightings not far down

1:36:45

the road from where we were in one crossing, an

1:36:47

alleged Bigfoot crossing. Yeah. And I know a rancher that doesn't

1:36:49

live too far from where we hunt. And they

1:36:52

told me that they saw one out there

1:36:54

when they were just like bailing hay. So it's just one

1:36:56

of those deals. It's pretty strange. Speaking of strange

1:36:58

Philly, I got something here. Listen to this. It

1:37:00

says this is about three years ago in November of 2012.

1:37:04

So this has been a while back when I

1:37:06

was working at a small gas station

1:37:08

in Northeast Louisiana. This

1:37:11

is going to be perfect for Halloween. Think about this.

1:37:13

We were the only small shop and 24 hour

1:37:16

service station near Bastrop just

1:37:18

off the highway. I worked the

1:37:20

night shift and loved it. The sharing

1:37:22

of stories with the traveling customers. That

1:37:25

was when the rare customer showed up. It

1:37:28

must have been around 2 a.m. I was cleaning

1:37:30

the floors and locking the beer coolers when suddenly

1:37:32

the lights went out. I

1:37:34

pulled out my cell phone and used it as

1:37:37

a guiding light until I made it back

1:37:39

to the counter where I kicked on

1:37:41

the gas generator. It

1:37:44

lit up the parking lot, the bath

1:37:46

and the hall leading to the register. When I looked

1:37:48

outside, I could just make out the movement

1:37:50

of the trees across the street, but otherwise

1:37:53

was pitch black. I turned

1:37:55

on the radio and started listening to the local station

1:37:58

with its night owl DJ comment. on the

1:38:00

heavy winds and cracking jokes

1:38:02

between songs. Suddenly

1:38:05

I saw some figures in the dark. I could

1:38:07

just make them out. They seemed to

1:38:09

be a group of kids on bikes. They

1:38:11

were three of them. Two of them dropped

1:38:13

their bikes and made their way to the door where they

1:38:15

just stood there staring at me. I

1:38:18

just stared back for a moment, waiting for them

1:38:20

to come in. They never did. I

1:38:23

moved around the counter to open the door. What's

1:38:25

up, guys? Out kind of late, aren't you? I

1:38:28

asked them, expecting them to come in. Can

1:38:30

we use your phone? One asked. Their

1:38:33

heads tilted kind of low. I felt a little

1:38:35

worried as I pulled myself from my pocket and offered

1:38:37

it to her.

1:38:39

Sure. She looked at me. That's when I

1:38:41

saw her eyes. They were solid

1:38:44

black. Almost like ink-filled

1:38:47

orbs. No, I need

1:38:50

the real one, she said. Her

1:38:52

face twisted into an angry snarl. I

1:38:54

pulled the door closed and flipped the locks. No.

1:38:57

No, you go home and get your mom's phone. They

1:39:00

stared at me through the door for a minute longer before

1:39:02

turning away and biking off. The

1:39:05

next day I had my boss check the cameras

1:39:08

to get the pictures of the creepy kids, but

1:39:10

the cameras had been off the whole time. I

1:39:12

was going to say static or something. Kind of

1:39:15

like what M.C. went missing. Kind of. It

1:39:17

says now the cameras run off the generator instead of the hall

1:39:19

lights and I've never seen those kids again.

1:39:22

Well, first of all, when they're like snarled

1:39:25

at me, the little kid, that's when they would have got to keep right

1:39:27

to the center of their chest. You're

1:39:30

going to end up kicking the wrong little kid one day. He

1:39:32

ain't going to be doing anything. He's just going to get smacked. Well,

1:39:34

he shouldn't be on my property. Try to scare me. Stop scaring

1:39:36

me. That's the best way

1:39:39

to get kicked in the face. This Halloween, do not

1:39:41

go around trying to be a black-eyed kid. That's a

1:39:43

bad costume. You're going to end up getting hurt. If

1:39:45

you decide that that's the thing that you're going to

1:39:48

do, make sure that you fill out your last will

1:39:50

and testament before you start running around out there pretending

1:39:52

to be a black-eyed kid. If you have some

1:39:54

really cool costumes, take

1:39:57

a picture and send it to me on Instagram. I'd like to see

1:39:59

the heck of your kids. kids or whatever. I love

1:40:02

spooky costumes. I'll show them the luke. Halloween

1:40:04

is a fun time. It is. It is

1:40:06

a really fun time. I tell you one thing, I always have

1:40:08

a bad feeling about Halloween. When I was a real

1:40:11

little, like eight or nine years

1:40:13

old, I remember going to my grandparents

1:40:16

here in Weatherford at the time and

1:40:18

trick-or-treating with my cousin. He and I were just a

1:40:20

few months apart and we were trick-or-treating down through

1:40:22

there right up and down the street that my grandparents

1:40:24

is on. This isn't back in the day where they just let us go.

1:40:27

They was no adults. We're like nine. They're just like,

1:40:29

be careful. I remember...

1:40:31

Don't take any wooden nickels and stuff like that. Yeah.

1:40:33

My cousin and I getting jumped by

1:40:35

like five or six older kids. They

1:40:38

stole all of our candy. Man. Took

1:40:41

every bit of it. That was the breaks back in the day. That

1:40:43

was how it went down, man. You just ran

1:40:46

back home crying because you didn't have any candy. You

1:40:48

didn't play the big job. You didn't start like a GoFundMe

1:40:50

to help you get more recent diseases and

1:40:52

stuff. No. Heck no. Speaking of Halloween candy, what's your

1:40:54

favorite? Is it

1:40:57

maintained the same over your life or has it changed

1:40:59

as you've aged? Because my favorite candies have changed

1:41:01

all the time. I don't

1:41:04

really have like a... I'm not

1:41:06

like a huge candy guy. Yeah, I'm not

1:41:08

either. But the ones I like are like,

1:41:11

they're not really Halloween candies. I like our Snickers

1:41:13

bars. I like those every now and again. I

1:41:15

like a Kit Kat. I still think

1:41:17

because this is... Luke loves Kit Kats. I'm not

1:41:19

a big Kit Kat guy. I like Kit Kats. My

1:41:21

favorite candy though, probably if I just had

1:41:24

to grab a candy and go, is the one that you and I

1:41:26

grab every Friday before we sat

1:41:28

down to play D&D. Peanut M&Ms? Peanut

1:41:30

M&Ms. Yeah, that was fantastic. That's plain. It's simple and that's

1:41:32

just where I leave it. I like those. I like Mr.

1:41:35

Good Bars. Oh man, I haven't had one of those.

1:41:37

Oh, I love them. They're plain, right? It's just chocolate

1:41:39

and peanut. Perfect. Basically, it's

1:41:41

a Hershey's bar with peanuts. That's it. Yeah. Instead

1:41:43

of just little round orbs, it's a flat bar. That's

1:41:46

all it is. And I love just a regular plain Hershey

1:41:48

bar. Yeah. Plain Hershey. But I haven't had

1:41:50

a good bar in forever. And I like scores.

1:41:53

It's like a Heath bar, but a little different.

1:41:55

Yeah, dude. It's English coffee. I like that.

1:41:58

I like the way it tastes.

1:41:59

Yeah.

1:41:59

It's got that mocha flavor to it. I'm

1:42:02

a big fan of caramel or toffee, so that's

1:42:04

another reason I steer clear of all of that, because

1:42:06

I'm like, boy, I could get addicted to that kind of stuff, so I just don't

1:42:08

even keep it in the house. My brother

1:42:10

used to like those peanuts, you know the ones like the size of

1:42:12

your thumb? Circus peanuts. Yeah, circus peanuts.

1:42:15

They didn't make those anymore? Your nasty ass brother used to also eat

1:42:17

Peeps, too. Oh, he used

1:42:19

to, still does. God, I hate him so much,

1:42:21

bringing those. I remember him coming back

1:42:24

to your house, we were kids, and he

1:42:26

would have, like he would save money

1:42:28

to buy stacks of Peeps. Yeah,

1:42:31

around Easter every year. Yeah, whatever box, he'd have

1:42:33

like six, eight boxes of Peeps. Ugh,

1:42:36

I hate those. I don't like anything with, I don't like marshmallows,

1:42:39

period. No. But when I was a kid, I did. Because

1:42:41

you didn't know any better. Well, maybe, I just, I

1:42:44

don't prefer it anymore. Like, I used to love licorice

1:42:46

when I was a kid, and I don't really care for it anymore. I don't

1:42:48

mind that every, but I just don't like any of that texture.

1:42:51

I think it's more of a texture thing with me than it is with

1:42:53

flavors. If the flavors are okay

1:42:55

and the texture's good, I'm fine with it, but you start getting

1:42:57

funky textures like those, what are they called,

1:42:59

Twizzlers? Yeah, yeah. Dude,

1:43:02

I wouldn't give you $5 for every Twizzler on this planet.

1:43:04

My wife loves them. I don't need them at all. Well,

1:43:06

look, I can already tell you your wife has poor judgment.

1:43:09

That's true, and poor taste. Yeah, I don't even need to

1:43:11

know. I can look at you and tell that there's

1:43:13

a problem with her. Well,

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1:43:36

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1:43:42

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We were on there last year, and we

1:43:48

had a good time, so we've been invited back, so that'll be cool,

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what do you got planned for the rest of your week? I

1:44:52

don't really know. A

1:44:54

little of it's up in the air. I

1:44:58

know I'm supposed to go with my granddaughter.

1:45:00

We're gonna go watch them do the trick or treating and whatnot

1:45:03

coming up. But other than that, I don't know

1:45:05

that I actually have any nailed down plans that

1:45:07

don't involve hunting. Right,

1:45:10

yeah, that's pretty much it. With the cooler weather

1:45:12

and now the rain's come through, it's gonna be good. I don't

1:45:14

think I have any really big plans either. I got

1:45:16

done taking care of my father while my mother was out of town.

1:45:19

And so I don't have to do that. I'm sure my wife will find something

1:45:21

for me to do. But you wanna go ahead and tell the people that always give

1:45:23

us a hard time about calling your dad

1:45:26

the human cockroach. You wanna go ahead and tell them? Well,

1:45:28

he fell again, busted

1:45:31

his head open. Not just busted

1:45:33

his head open, he hit the bottom of the dresser and

1:45:35

blew the trim off

1:45:37

the bottom of the dresser with his skull. And

1:45:39

this is a dresser that was made in the 70s when they actually

1:45:41

made them out of like real wood. You know what I mean? Yeah,

1:45:44

I mean like knocked a piece off the dresser.

1:45:46

Yeah, they took him to the- You can see the skull.

1:45:49

They took him to the emergency room and they did a CT

1:45:51

scan, no brain bleeds, nothing, no problem. Nothing!

1:45:54

Got five stitches and he's back at home. Yeah, yeah. Hey.

1:45:57

He's one tough cookie, I'll tell you that. I'm kidding. telling

1:46:00

you. You know he'll die in his sleep. That'll

1:46:03

be what happens. You'll be like, really?

1:46:05

All of this. And that really sleep guy.

1:46:07

Wow. He's a hard, he's

1:46:09

a hard. He's hard to kill. He's hard to kill. He's hard

1:46:12

to kill. He is definitely

1:46:14

hard to kill. What's Luke going as? He's going

1:46:17

as Ghostface,

1:46:19

which is like the killer from the movie Scream. Oh,

1:46:21

that's a pretty simple one. Yeah, he's getting simpler.

1:46:24

He's turning into me. Man, that is so good.

1:46:26

Keep it simple. Right? Because I am tired of getting

1:46:28

ear beatings over the last few years when he was younger of like,

1:46:30

where am I going to find all this? Yeah,

1:46:33

well, let's see. He went to a school function

1:46:36

and him and a buddy,

1:46:38

they were going to go as the Breaking Bad duo. Oh

1:46:41

my God. And Luke's

1:46:43

character was not the, I don't know,

1:46:45

I haven't seen that show in so long. Jesse

1:46:48

Pinkman. The young one, Jesse, the

1:46:50

Heisenberg. Yeah, right. And I was his friend. And

1:46:52

I was just like, well, how are you going to dress like that? Like,

1:46:54

I don't, how am I going to wear like the yellow suit? Like

1:46:56

they were cooking meth. Yeah, that's what they did at the

1:47:00

school function. Everybody was fine with it. Nobody

1:47:03

said nothing. I thought they were going to get in trouble.

1:47:05

No, nothing happened. So we're going as meth

1:47:07

cooks. Basically. Yeah. Yeah.

1:47:09

That's what they went for. That's awesome. My

1:47:12

granddaughter is keeping it

1:47:14

old school. There you go. Right. She's

1:47:16

about two and a half years old. She

1:47:19

fell in love with something Disney related,

1:47:22

just like her father did. She

1:47:25

loves Toy Story. Oh yeah. She

1:47:27

watches Toy Story all the time. She

1:47:29

was a big Moana fan. Now she's a big fan of

1:47:31

Toy Story. She's going as

1:47:34

Woody. Okay. That's who

1:47:36

she wants to go as. Not the girl, Jesse.

1:47:38

She wants to go as Woody. She

1:47:40

was going to go as Buzz cause

1:47:43

she liked the wings. Not going

1:47:45

to lie. Jetpack looks cool, right? I'm not going to lie.

1:47:47

Jetpacks are cool. So yeah,

1:47:49

that's what you have to get a picture of her as Woody and then

1:47:52

post it on Instagram so everybody can see it. I will. I may

1:47:54

go. If we all dressed up to go, I

1:47:56

said I was going to go as Yukon Gornelius. That

1:47:58

you could pull that off. My mother bought me the

1:48:00

shirt that looks just

1:48:02

like his shirt. I got the

1:48:04

same color pants, the boots, the backpack.

1:48:07

I just got to get a little like eye packs. You got to get the pickaxe and you got to lick it.

1:48:09

You got to lick it when you stick it in the ground and

1:48:11

you got to get a red toboggan. Does anybody

1:48:13

out there, that's what we need. We have some

1:48:15

of the most amazing listeners. Yeah,

1:48:18

I agree. This group that I find where those people would

1:48:20

be like crocheting, like wool, like

1:48:22

making wool like toboggan's wool.

1:48:24

I'm like, man, oh man. I got

1:48:26

to find one of them that does that and order one of those. I

1:48:29

need to get me a red toboggan so I can

1:48:31

be Yukon Cornelius. You were just telling me

1:48:33

the other day you were going to make me some mittens. I'm going to.

1:48:36

We're going to make mittens. We're going to build some out of the deer

1:48:38

that we killed this year. It's happening.

1:48:40

I haven't tanned anything to make. I used to just have a bunch

1:48:42

of deer hides laying around on stuff, right?

1:48:45

But I never made them into anything. I'm making them into

1:48:47

something this time. You should throw them all out? No,

1:48:50

we packed them up. I've got some out in the packed

1:48:52

up, stuff like that. It's just things. Now here's one

1:48:54

thing I'm going to make you. You need to pair a buckskin

1:48:57

pants to honey. That

1:49:00

would be cool. How about just like an apron

1:49:02

that I can cook with? That'd be pretty cool. Yeah,

1:49:04

right. That'd be pretty awesome. Yeah, you got

1:49:06

to make some crazy buckskin stuff. It'd be fun. Then

1:49:09

somebody will think I'm going to win to go or something walking through the woods. Then

1:49:11

I'm going to shoot him. I have an excuse. All right,

1:49:13

folks. That's about all the time we have for this episode. Please

1:49:15

be safe out there. It's your trick or treating. Be safe.

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Look both ways before you cross the street. Make sure to check

1:49:20

their air quotes candy. Yeah. So

1:49:23

you check their candy. They can't have too much of it. They can't have

1:49:25

a little fun. Be safe, y'all. I'm Kyle.

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