Sara Dimerman in conversation with Phyllis Taylor. Over the course of this episode you will learn more about:

• Phyllis Taylor and what led to writing her book
• How well equipped Ontario's prison system is to rehabilitate offenders
• Issues that prisons seem either well or poorly equipped to handle
• Whether prisons are best suited for certain offenders and not the right place for others
• With crime on the rise, what Phyllis recommends in regards to keeping our streets safe