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3:03

live YouTube Friday night. Actually, we are Saturday

3:05

morning 1230 a.m. Eastern. I'm

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in Boston. Chip Patterson let's go buddy.

3:09

GP is in studio. We are going to

3:11

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3:14

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3:16

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3:18

on. We've got an 11. We have an 11

3:21

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3:23

there. Just an entertaining night of ball. A

3:26

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3:28

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3:30

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3:32

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3:34

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3:36

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3:38

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3:40

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3:43

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3:45

Chip Patterson. We're gonna have one seed per due

3:47

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3:50

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3:55

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3:57

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4:07

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4:11

just lay it in come on.

4:13

This is on America's most watched

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4:18

of stars this is Where

4:20

are these schools from tell me again?

4:24

The Atlantic Coast Conference the network of

4:26

DJ burns it is a CC by

4:28

the way chip feel free I

4:30

don't have my board you can lock in any single sound

4:32

you want Let's

4:34

go. I mean at any single time we are gonna

4:37

start right here right now everyone in the live chat

4:39

appreciate you Not let's toss a poll question up there

4:41

by the way as well Give

4:44

me give me a Look,

4:46

so let's look at the final four right now. We got

4:48

okay How about this one for the poll question not a

4:50

drop it in there? We'll say which lower seated team do

4:52

you give the best chance to win in the elite eight

4:55

so with that we've got, Illinois We've

4:57

got Clemson. We've got

4:59

Tennessee, and we've got

5:01

state Tennessee's gonna win that

5:03

one so you know what not it don't

5:05

put Tennessee in we'll go Clemson, Illinois and

5:08

State which are the three lower seated teams there, and then

5:10

we'll get to those results later. Let's go right now NC

5:13

State We are obviously leading on

5:15

the darling of this tournament still sticking around

5:18

Beating second season Marquette in the first

5:20

tip of Friday night 6758

5:23

I've got thoughts. I've got nuggets. I'm not gonna go any

5:25

further. I've talked a ton to start this pod We

5:27

are going right to the heart

5:29

of the celebration in North Carolina

5:32

chip Patterson thoughts experiences Give me

5:34

anything and everything you got on

5:37

your wolf pack getting this done

5:39

and making their first elite eight since

5:44

1986 yeah what happened when I scared

5:46

you Did

5:48

I jump in and say that yeah?

5:50

Yeah, I said this was

5:53

the reverse of the curse

5:55

right? You know I said it was

5:57

done. I said that's it this court. Yani

5:59

got I called for the travel against

6:01

Georgetown and that was the

6:03

beginning and this is the end. All

6:06

right. So, yeah, I was at the Rialto.

6:08

Shout out to Hayes Permar, you

6:11

know, old school theater, downtown

6:13

Raleigh. You've

6:15

got that big star shirt on. Like

6:19

big star might have played at Rialto. Right,

6:22

baby. It

6:24

was panic. It was anxiety. You know,

6:26

like it was waiting for

6:28

things to go bad because that is

6:30

what has been most of the NC

6:33

State athletic experience. But listen,

6:36

I saw with Kevin Keats

6:39

so much confidence and that's something

6:41

that is both equally inspiring and

6:43

also frustrating because you were like,

6:46

okay, why did it

6:48

take so long? But at the same time,

6:51

they are dialed in. Like

6:53

Casey Morsell dialed in, O'Connell

6:55

dialed in. Everybody

6:58

around this team understands their

7:00

roles. Modiara, who,

7:03

do you realize, Matt,

7:05

that they got a little bit

7:07

hosed because he has

7:09

to wait another hour to be able

7:11

to eat? I'm aware. I'm aware,

7:13

yeah. Right? I mean, the

7:16

Ramadan fasting going into this, which is,

7:18

you know, we see it with the

7:20

NCAA tournament every single year with those

7:22

who observe. But you know, the

7:25

fact that NC State, I thought to

7:28

me, held the upper hand through

7:30

and through. It was just something that was very,

7:33

very impressive. Marquette was chasing. Marquette

7:36

was chasing the game the entire

7:38

time. And that is not what you

7:40

expect when you see an 11 against a 2. You

7:44

know, this is a

7:46

weekend where we had 1 and 2, 1 and 2, 1 and 2,

7:49

1 and 2 in every single

7:52

bracket. But what did we see last

7:54

night? The 1 and the 2 did

7:56

not hold surf. What did we see tonight? The

7:59

1 and the 2. mostly

8:01

held serve but NC State being

8:03

the exception. We have

8:05

eight teams left in the tournament. Three of them

8:07

originate from the Atlantic Coast Conference. Clemson, Duke, we

8:10

will get to the Blue Devils of course and

8:12

the NC State Wolfpack. So yeah, I

8:15

mentioned 86 the last time NC State

8:17

broke through this far. Shouts to Vinny

8:19

Delganegro, Nate McMillan and Charles Shackeford that

8:21

were on that team coached by the

8:23

one and the only Jim Valvano. It

8:25

is a, it's a heck of a story,

8:28

man. This is awesome stuff. It really is. I

8:30

mean Marquette, I'll get to them in a second.

8:33

I was surprised by

8:35

the performance, by the lack of urgency. NC State

8:37

wanted more from the jump and they controlled it.

8:39

They had it. They did. I was genuinely surprised,

8:41

Chip. I did not think, I didn't put out

8:43

of my mind that NC State could win the

8:45

game. But I did not,

8:47

we've had a couple of these bad boys now

8:49

in the past 48 hours where the team on

8:51

the wrong end of a result. I

8:55

give credit to the other team for winning but I was,

8:58

you would have thought that Marquette played a triple overtime game

9:00

the day before. It was just, it was weird. You'd agree,

9:02

right? Oh, without a doubt. The

9:05

fact that Marquette did not have juice was

9:08

surprising. But at the

9:10

same time, win in this tournament outside

9:12

of what, second half against Western Kentucky,

9:16

like maybe first half against Colorado, I don't

9:18

think Marquette's had its best stuff. I mean

9:20

Tyler Collett came back. So like in terms

9:22

of a math equation, you would be like,

9:24

okay, Tyler Collett's back. Marquette's gonna be back

9:27

to its full self. I

9:31

would not say that I saw 40 minutes

9:33

with Tyler Collett back in the lineup, right?

9:35

I thought the Marquette was as good as

9:37

it was, let's say on January 10th. Yeah,

9:40

it was surprising. And they basically were only

9:43

able to roll six guys out there. Chase

9:45

Ross came off the bench. Marquette

9:48

finishes at just 0.84 points per

9:50

possession, was

9:52

four of 31 from three point

9:54

range. Four

9:57

Of 31, folks, that's 13% overall. Oh

10:00

and. You. Know camps? or

10:02

maybe twenty? Tylenol

10:04

that they'll be gps or her me from

10:07

Memphis there would be his the whole me

10:09

from Memphis but but brother's son Mykola could

10:11

seventeen there was shot afterward a colic walking

10:13

down the hallway. Jersey. Ripped

10:15

in half at a pure frustration and I get

10:17

a manicure Market fans you are pissed because this

10:19

was a good team. He did break through to

10:21

the second weekend we had that soon. as your

10:23

name in that bracket. Expectations:

10:26

You get to an Elite Eight that has not

10:28

happened two years and row expressed any weather fan

10:30

base that are right there joining with yeah but

10:32

the. But. Yeah if you're tennessee with

10:34

you later your the link to the still standing in

10:36

this in this field and this tournaments. ah edit it

10:38

is a tough one. I was a tough night for

10:41

the of the big is hop on Nc State don't

10:43

wanna. Or straight games

10:45

against ranked opponents. That's the longest

10:47

streak for the program since Nineteen

10:49

Eighty Five, when it won five

10:52

straight and. A What's Wilde

10:54

is. It. Is going on this?

10:56

This Run here? With a

10:58

dating back to the the went over

11:00

movil and the tournament in Australia at

11:02

the House and how they have tapped

11:04

into. As m

11:06

I am I to any now with this no

11:08

matter what happens again on on Sunday against Duke.

11:10

Whether it's a thirty point when as at a

11:12

one point buzzer beating victory or thirty point loss.

11:15

The. Nc State story as it is is

11:17

guaranteed to be a top five if

11:19

not better defining story of this tournaments

11:22

and. The power of it. This

11:24

is just. this is this is awesome stuff.

11:26

A really, really, really. As Nc State ship

11:28

has held his past five opponents under forty

11:30

percent from the field they haven't done that

11:32

and eight seasons and to do it again,

11:34

send to the Letterman competition. Is. Incredible.

11:38

Dimension the other markets shooting display from three

11:40

point range for thirty one second worst of

11:42

with a minimum of thirty attempts and that's

11:45

a ton of attempts. but as the second

11:47

worst percentage by team in the tournament the

11:49

history of the events you got. Iraq

11:52

same. and other than you just got

11:55

a really really incredible performance out of

11:57

Nc State and. The. fact that

11:59

it comes on 50-year anniversary of these two

12:01

teams meeting in the 74 national

12:03

championship. There's a lot of really good stuff here.

12:05

There really is. If you're curious about the worst

12:08

three-point shooting performance, by the way, that was Kentucky in 2010. It

12:10

was 4 of 32, so

12:13

just barely worse than that. But yeah,

12:16

just incredibly, incredibly, incredibly impressive

12:20

by the Wolfpack getting

12:22

that done. And continuing a trend

12:25

for Marquette, where it is

12:28

seeded well in the tournament and then

12:31

losing to worse seeded teams, it's become

12:33

something of a trope there for them. They

12:36

were a 2. They lose to NC State this year. They were a

12:38

2. They lost to 7-seed in

12:40

Michigan State last year in 2022. It was a toss-up

12:42

9-8 game, whatever. But

12:45

before that 2019, there were a 5. They

12:48

lost to 12-seed Murray State. I was at that game. They

12:51

were a 3 in 2012. They

12:54

lost to 7-seed Florida. So it's

12:56

tough living there for Marquette. I

12:59

still think the program is going to be

13:01

just fine under Shaka Smark. But special team,

13:03

Tyler Kolick, second team All-American, couldn't get it

13:05

done. Any other outstanding thoughts on what you

13:07

saw go down here on either end

13:09

of the aisle, Chip? Yeah, fair or not. The

13:12

fact that I'm going to think about Marquette

13:14

in Illinois, right? Illinois

13:17

breaks through. First sweet 16

13:19

since 2005. What did you

13:21

do? Okay, you

13:23

capitalized. Marquette, Shaka

13:26

Smark, you had what, six

13:28

straight losses in the round

13:31

of 64? Was that five straight in the

13:34

round of 64 or six straight losses not

13:36

advancing this sweet 16? Ah,

13:41

and this is what happens? You know, I

13:44

just feel like for NC State and I was

13:46

watching the game with a lot of

13:49

NC State fans, and

13:51

they were super, extremely

13:53

superstitious. Like here,

13:56

look at me, extremely

13:58

superstitious. I had

14:00

to check in with multiple friends to

14:02

be like, okay, can I come sit

14:04

with you during the second half? No,

14:06

yes, no, yes. You know, you had

14:08

to balance it all. But there

14:11

was so much confidence. You were up at 13 and a half

14:13

time, right? And in the whole

14:15

second half, you're only worried about blowing

14:17

it. You're not having to beg for

14:19

a comeback. NC State

14:22

owned this game. I

14:24

credit Kevin Keats. Yeah, you

14:27

know what? Let's give Keats his love and that staff. This

14:29

is phenomenal. Ridiculous

14:33

turnaround for this team, man. Really. You

14:36

had to look at the fact that, okay,

14:38

all right, you're going to get Tyler Kolek,

14:40

Osso Iguodoro, the pick and roll game. We're

14:42

going to try to isolate DJ Burns. You

14:44

know, we're going to try to create all

14:46

these mismatches. And yet

14:49

NC State just answered the bell. And

14:51

I was so impressed by the Wolfpack

14:54

with that. You know,

14:56

we'll get to what happens next in a

14:58

little bit. But for

15:00

this game, you know, you spent

15:03

seven wins in 12 days. You come

15:05

back, you get the adulation, you're on

15:07

campus. Everything like is rocking and

15:09

rolling. And then you show up

15:12

with another strong performance. Just, yeah,

15:14

I, one of the

15:16

great stories of this NCAA tournament, like

15:19

you mentioned, is the

15:21

fact that Kevin Keats starts against

15:24

Louisville. And you're like, I

15:26

don't know what's going to happen at NC State. Yeah. I'm

15:28

not talking to agents. You're talking to agents. You know, like

15:31

I had that just before the ACC tournament, I had to

15:33

just check and make a few calls to be like, because

15:35

I don't know. I don't know. And it was, it was

15:37

in the air and he was safe by the time they

15:39

even made, you know, the semis in my opinion. But this

15:42

is, I'm joking. Yeah, exactly.

15:44

Brinson, our buddy Will Brinson, shout

15:47

out to the Pick Six Podcast. I said,

15:49

lifetime contract for, for Keats. He's

15:51

just, he was on, he was on cloud

15:54

nine. Wait, hold on. You know, I was

15:56

with him, right? Oh, he did not indicate

15:58

that he did not. Tonight? Oh

16:01

yeah. He did not indicate that. Yeah.

16:03

So, all right. So first half is like

16:05

still going on during bedtime, right? Yeah. So

16:07

like, you know, we're trying to get, we're

16:09

trying to get the boys to bed. And

16:11

then I run up to the theater. A

16:14

shout out to Hayes Permar, the Rialto, Downtown

16:17

Raleigh. Like I catch

16:19

up with Will Brinson and a couple other NC

16:21

State grads. And, uh, there,

16:24

uh, that was what I saw was they

16:26

were like, I don't, I don't

16:28

think we're supposed to have this. We're not supposed

16:30

to have nice things, you know, and

16:33

your market didn't, didn't

16:35

have the goods, uh, just wild, wild

16:37

stuff here from the Wolfpack. But, you

16:39

know, they've got a, uh, they've

16:41

got a familiar foe. They do.

16:44

I will, uh, we'll get a quick little look ahead

16:46

on that at the end of the show here. Um,

16:49

quick note though, Muhammad Diara just going for 15 boards,

16:51

11 points. He was

16:53

the most important player on the floor. DJ

16:55

Burns going for four points for

16:57

rebount seven assists. I'm not going to say he

16:59

was used as a decoy, but. Well,

17:02

he's been good at passing out of the double team. No

17:04

doubt. Like that's his thing.

17:07

Yeah. Like the, I

17:10

saw one scout, uh, sent a message that

17:12

was like, um, why

17:14

did it take them so long to

17:16

realize that he

17:18

is an elite passer out of the double team?

17:20

Four out one in, but

17:23

you needed O'Connell to be reliable. You

17:25

needed Diara to be reliable. So, you

17:27

know, I'm not, I'm not gonna, I'm

17:30

not gonna slam the coaching

17:32

staff at that point. No.

17:34

Yeah, no. It's a impressive stuff. NC state fans

17:36

relish this a big night women's team, also advanced

17:38

big night all around for NC state hoops. That's

17:41

a, that's awesome. Awesome, awesome stuff. We will just

17:43

give you a quick little taste of the look

17:45

at, uh, later in the show. But first we

17:47

got to get to the team that NC state's

17:49

going to play in what it did. Knocking

17:52

off the top seed right there out of the South.

17:54

That's obviously Duke. We will get to that right

17:57

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20:53

don't love Anderson Cooper as much as

20:55

Juki does, but I do

20:57

appreciate Anderson Cooper. Again, if you're listening

20:59

to the show, there's a thing with

21:01

Anderson Cooper. Okay, this has become a

21:04

thing. All right, Duke, 54, Houston, 51.

21:09

Game was super ugly. Game

21:11

was marred. Listen, I

21:13

truly don't care who wins. Doesn't matter to me.

21:16

I don't like when a team has a first team

21:18

All-American go down with an ankle injury in the first

21:20

half, and we don't get to see both teams at

21:22

their best. If Jamal Shedd was on

21:24

the floor, I'm of the opinion Houston

21:26

probably would have won the game. The fact that he was

21:28

able to keep it close and kind of ugly it up

21:32

is a credit to Houston, which in totality

21:34

has taken on huge injuries. A healthy Houston

21:36

team could have stood toe-to-toe with UConn as

21:38

the best team in the country. But top

21:41

seed, it's out. Get out of here.

21:44

Two days in a row, number one seed, done.

21:48

Doesn't it feel like it's a continuation of

21:51

the Houston sort of trend, though? I mean,

21:53

they did take a final four in 21, so yes and no. No,

21:56

no, no, no. The injuries. Oh,

21:59

yeah, yeah. Yeah, like you feel

22:01

like this Houston team, whether it's last

22:04

season, whether it's this season, like you

22:06

just, you're, you're always just

22:08

like, Oh man, one

22:11

injury. And Jamal shed is

22:14

a different injury than Juwan Roberts, right? You

22:16

know, like you've got different

22:18

levels to this, but this

22:20

is a group that if, if

22:23

you have somebody go down, there's not

22:25

an obvious answer. I'm not looking at

22:27

Houston's roster. I'm not looking at the

22:29

way that Houston plays basketball and thinking,

22:31

okay, you know, that I automatically know

22:33

off the top of my head, who

22:35

the player is, who's going to come

22:37

on and take on more minutes, who's

22:39

going to take on a bigger role

22:41

and under and feel confident at all

22:43

at they're going to be

22:45

able to come in and maintain that same

22:47

standard and the standard being, you know, five

22:49

straight, sweet 16, you know,

22:52

three, what three of the last

22:54

four, they appreciate elite eight, right?

22:57

Somewhere in that, somewhere in that realm. Yeah.

22:59

And they've been a top five team in the country

23:02

per Ken Tom, you know, past

23:04

half decade, basically every season. Yeah. Like,

23:07

I just don't think that with a general depth

23:09

chart, I'm sorry to use the football term.

23:13

Is that okay? Yeah, you're good. You're good.

23:15

I'll allow it at this hour. Yeah. Yeah.

23:18

Yeah. They're

23:21

good. They're good. They're

23:23

good. And so you, you lose your heartbeat,

23:25

man. That's what you do. You

23:28

lose your heartbeat and you're going

23:30

to be able to beat a team that look

23:32

in this game, did Duke

23:34

have the flamethrower? No, but

23:36

do they have that high end? Yes.

23:41

So, uh, super disappointing for Houston

23:44

and for Duke, man, uh,

23:46

shout out to my guy, Joe Jilia, who

23:49

always talks about bracket luck, right? You

23:52

know, It's a thing. It's a

23:54

thing. It's a thing. It's

23:56

part of bracket. Luck

23:58

was a thing when Virginia. Virginia did

24:01

not have to face a one seed

24:03

Duke with Zion or a one seed,

24:05

North Carolina with one seed. So

24:08

they were in their separate corners. Yeah.

24:11

Yeah. None of them got to the

24:13

final four, but Virginia did. And now

24:15

here's Duke, uh, who has taken

24:17

out a one seed without its best

24:19

player and now gets to face an 11

24:21

seed in the elite eight. You

24:24

know, it's a wow.

24:26

Wow. It's great.

24:28

It's great to see the, the, uh, the,

24:30

the small little guy. All right. All

24:32

right. Take it easy. Take it down

24:34

and take it down just a little bit of a

24:37

notch here. Here's the deal with shed two

24:39

points, 13 minutes. It's

24:42

a dagger and they tried to overcome it. They

24:44

couldn't do it. Cryer at 15 for Houston. Houston

24:47

has a team match Duke and shooting percentage 41%

24:49

a piece. Um,

24:52

turnovers, Duke at 14 Houston only had

24:54

10. Uh, but

24:56

the problem was Houston could

24:58

not function offensively and it, it, it was tough

25:01

to begin with, but no point guard on the

25:03

floor. You've got a first team all American. We're

25:05

going to vote on these awards on Monday. Jamal

25:07

said we'll be a first email American for me

25:09

and I expect he'll do sports first email American.

25:11

He deserves it. Uh, it's a tough break. It

25:13

really is, but Houston did his best to try

25:15

and get this game into the mud. What

25:18

do we get? We got some timely buckets

25:20

from Philipowski. He had 16 points in this game.

25:22

You had a couple of nice. This is the

25:24

thing I said this, I think on the CBS

25:27

sports network show with GP, uh,

25:30

Jeremy Roach had 14 points,

25:33

three rebounds, three assists, played 38 minutes.

25:36

The only play that played all 40 was McCain

25:38

by the way. And he had seven points. He

25:40

didn't come up big in this one. Uh, I

25:42

thought that Roach was going to need to be

25:44

that prototypical as senior Duke guard, big shots, big

25:46

moments. He was, they just, Duke just had enough

25:48

here and there, here and there. It just, it

25:51

just had enough to slip past. And uh,

25:54

credit to Shire. Year two right now, what's he done?

25:56

Year one wins the ACC undefeated at

25:59

home. the tournament win. Year

26:01

two doesn't win the ACC, but you break through

26:03

to the Elite Eight. And here are your overall stats

26:05

on Duke. I got a couple of doozies here for

26:07

you, Chip. And credit to our CBS Sports Research team

26:09

for helping out with some of this stuff here. Oh,

26:11

you got the dock open. I don't have the dock

26:13

open. Hit me with the look, Duke. All right. How

26:15

about this one? Duke's in

26:17

his 25th Elite Eight appearance. That's

26:20

the third most of all time. What happened on Friday?

26:23

Duke beat a better-seated team for the first time

26:25

since 94. 94

26:28

was the last time Duke faced a better-seated

26:30

team. Shout-out to Cherokee Parks. There

26:32

we go. In the 94 team. It had

26:34

been only six. There had only been six

26:36

instances where Duke was facing even

26:38

a better-seated team in the bracket, so some

26:41

context on that as well. And they overcome,

26:43

you know, only

26:45

23 points in the first half. All

26:47

of Roach's 14, by the way, were in the

26:49

second half. It's

26:51

the 10th win for Duke against a one-seed. No program

26:53

has more victories over a one ever. And

26:58

John Shire, 54-17, they're two seasons. Really,

27:02

really, really impressive start. Credit

27:05

to Duke, man. We... It's

27:09

gonna be, from a national standpoint, what's

27:12

gonna be interesting is

27:14

that game, which will be the last game to decide the Final Four,

27:19

it will be the entire country versus

27:21

Duke fans. That is

27:23

going to stoke something. And

27:25

I'll take either team. Give me NC State in the

27:28

Final Four, absolutely. And then Duke, you think I'm ever

27:30

gonna object to Duke being a team to cover in

27:32

the national semifinals? Of course not. But

27:35

I think NC State versus

27:37

Duke, on an Elite

27:40

Eight stage chip, and let's just quickly preview this and then we'll get

27:42

to the other results of the night, but let's give a look at

27:44

it here since we've talked about these two teams off the top. Carolina

27:48

versus Duke was an awesome thing in the

27:50

Final Four two years ago. But what it

27:52

did not provide, in my opinion, was

27:55

some nostalgia stokes of making Duke

27:58

the ultimate enemy. some

28:00

of it, don't get me wrong. But here, when

28:02

you've got another ACC team that's associated with

28:04

one of the most charmed runs in the

28:06

history of this beautiful event, and

28:09

it's got two digits next to its name, and

28:12

Duke's on the other side, and this is an Avengers

28:14

Great Toots team, agree or

28:16

disagree that, that one,

28:18

this game is going to do a monster rating. This

28:20

will do a launch this game, and I don't really

28:22

care too much about ratings, you can tell me seven

28:24

people watch the tournament or seven billion, I'm going to

28:26

love it all the same. I do

28:29

think that this NC State Duke game

28:31

is going to if, if you were listening to the

28:33

podcast and you're dying our college hoops fan, awesome. But

28:35

if you've got some buddies who aren't going to listen

28:37

to a college hoops fan podcast and gal pals who

28:39

aren't going to listen to our college hoops podcast, but

28:42

they kind of get into the tournament, this will be

28:44

the game that gets them emotionally invested

28:46

if they have

28:49

even an inkling of

28:51

an indication or an inclination to root

28:53

against Duke, agree? Yeah, let me

28:55

get my hand on the motor right here. Oh,

29:01

yeah, that's

29:03

right, baby. All right, so I think that this is going

29:06

to be the

29:18

moment that it goes sour for NC State.

29:20

And we're gonna have like you, there are

29:23

going to be opportunities for everybody to speak.

29:26

But the fact that Duke was

29:28

one and done in the

29:31

ACC tournament at

29:33

the hands of NC State, that is correct.

29:37

It's impactful to me. It

29:39

is impactful to John Shire, to Chris

29:42

Carwell, to the rest, to

29:44

the rest of that Duke staff. And

29:48

I think it's impactful to Jeremy Roach,

29:50

to Kyle Filippowski, to Tyrese

29:53

Proctor, to even

29:55

Jared McCain with his

29:58

less than one calendar. a

30:00

year of experience suiting

30:02

up, you know, not what

30:04

you know, you get get me.

30:07

I think that this is going to be a spot

30:09

where Duke is

30:11

probably enjoying

30:14

the opportunity to get another

30:16

lick at the Wolfpack. If

30:19

that makes sense. It

30:21

does. It's going to be an incredible

30:24

game. ACC.

30:26

ACC in the tournament, by the

30:28

way, now, if you're if you've lost track of the record,

30:31

Atlantic Coast Conference having itself

30:35

quite quite the March year, 11 and two

30:37

in the tournament, 11 and two and the

30:39

fact that it's We talked about this. Oh,

30:41

I haven't gotten a chance to put this

30:43

at you. Go ahead. Let's go. I

30:46

mean, I guess have you have you

30:48

received a lot of different opinions on

30:50

this? I have what about the ACC

30:52

in general, or why

30:54

they do well in the tournament?

30:58

I'll offer it up here. Let's let's see. Let's

31:00

hear what you got, bud. Okay. All right. Number

31:02

two things on two levels. Number one, I do

31:05

think it is a league that if

31:07

I am to paint with a broad brush,

31:10

is not as defensively minded as the big

31:12

12 or the Big East. There.

31:15

And the efficiency numbers, as

31:17

we have seen, whether it's in

31:19

Ken Palm, or whether it's in

31:22

the net ratings are always going

31:24

to reward defensive officials. Officially. Yes,

31:26

but it's also I mean, the

31:29

it's going to bake in both. I mean, Houston was

31:31

more defensive oriented, and it was the number one rated

31:33

team in the country this season until the biggest tournament

31:35

when you got to go over. Yeah, but Virginia showed

31:37

up and got the pants dropped.

31:40

Correct. See pants pants, you

31:42

know, we've already already got

31:44

one. Yeah. Number two,

31:46

and this one came from Josh

31:48

Passner, who was actually talking with

31:52

who was actually talking with our friends, Joe

31:54

Obius, Joe Jilio, he was like, you

31:56

know, he was like, Yeah, like, it's a little

31:58

bit more of a pro. style league,

32:01

you know, like it's up and down, you know, it's

32:03

kind of a, it's a free

32:05

flowing league. And guess what? You know

32:07

what the NCAA tournament needs? Bucket getters.

32:10

And you know what the ACC has? Bucket

32:12

getters. So whether it's a

32:15

five seed Miami, right? Oh, you're a

32:17

five, but guess what? You've got bucket

32:19

getters. Whether it's an eight seed North

32:21

Carolina back in 2022, guess what you've

32:23

got? Bucket getters. So

32:27

I think that the ACC, because they've

32:29

got diversity of style within the conference,

32:31

because it is a little bit less

32:33

of a, you know, sit

32:36

down, grind it out, you

32:38

know, hard hitting possession by

32:40

possession conference. When you get into

32:42

that one and done single

32:45

elimination tournament situation, having

32:48

that free flowing style probably

32:50

helps you. So again, it is

32:53

not a huge, awesome thought,

32:55

but my opinion in

32:57

the ACC disconnect between

32:59

your rating, both in

33:02

terms of Ken Palm, both in terms of

33:04

the net versus how you perform

33:06

in the tournament has to do with the

33:08

fact that the ACC at least in the

33:10

last five, six, seven years has been a

33:13

league where not outside

33:16

of Virginia, not like

33:18

a elite defensive conference,

33:21

not a, you know, fight

33:26

your kneecap Stan Campbell kind of

33:29

conference, but at the

33:31

same time, you know, you've got teams

33:33

like Pitt, right? Like, like, for example,

33:35

yeah. Hey, hey, you shouted out Pitt.

33:37

I was happy to hear you say

33:40

that. Right. Yes. Was it? Yeah.

33:42

It was a couple of couple of. Yeah.

33:44

Top four since March 1st. Top

33:47

10 top 10 since March one in Torvick. That's

33:49

right. But all the way. Oh,

33:51

um, yeah. And what does

33:53

Pitt have hoopers? But yeah,

33:55

we're not, we're not. Okay. Listen,

33:57

chip is an ACC country. I gave you.

34:00

Three minutes we are congrats to the ACC

34:02

it deserves all of us love to read

34:04

the eight standing Do you agree with the

34:07

thought that like? Stylistically

34:09

it is not as like

34:11

efficient But yes, it's

34:13

a free-flowing game and in the

34:15

tournament that kind of stuff can

34:17

be super super helpful Yeah,

34:19

no, it definitely definitely can and and

34:21

Duke and NC State got to this

34:23

spot in different ways They

34:26

will meet in Dallas on Sunday for the

34:28

Elite A. Let's go to the bottom half

34:30

Midwest Regional semi-finals Let's talk those games. We're

34:32

gonna start with Tennessee versus Creighton here Tennessee

34:37

wins 82 75 it at one point went on an 18 0

34:39

run in this game and really flipped it Creighton

34:42

had a good push back here Dalton

34:44

connect goes for 24 He

34:48

he was the standout as he has been often but in

34:50

credits as a Kai Ziegler 18

34:53

points six dimes And

34:55

you had Josiah Jordan James go for 17 Creighton

34:57

had a little bit of something from from the

34:59

usual suspects here Baylor Shire man with 25 Steven

35:03

Ashworth was 16 Ryan Caulk Brenner with

35:05

14 Trey Alexander who was He

35:08

was cold to start I mean he had a couple bucks to

35:10

the end that helped that stat line But he was not as

35:12

good as they needed him to be here So the big East

35:14

goes 0 and 2 here and you constantly team left standing from

35:16

that conference Creighton can't break through

35:18

it was an Elite A team a season ago

35:20

sweet 16 team here Tennessee

35:23

gets it done wins ugly Despite

35:26

getting to 82 points Tennessee did win this

35:29

game Did win this

35:31

game ugly here only had four turnovers,

35:33

which is no surprise Creighton does not

35:35

turn teams over It cannot afford to

35:37

not turn teams over and then not

35:39

take advantage Excuse me

35:41

on the glass, but that's what we had here

35:44

thoughts on balls Versus

35:47

blue Jays obviously, I know your attention was also

35:49

focused on what was going down with that with

35:51

with Duke in Houston But some

35:53

reaction mr. Patterson on on Tennessee breaking

35:55

through to the Elite A for

35:57

the second time and on the brink of its first final form program

36:00

history. Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned

36:02

the Trey Alexander part because I

36:04

thought that I was eating my

36:06

words on the birds when it

36:08

came to Creighton because all

36:11

season long on the early edge,

36:13

which obviously CBS Sports

36:16

podcast family and networks, you know,

36:18

I was talking about Creighton as

36:20

though a team that was better on

36:22

paper than it was in performance. And

36:25

if you look at the scouting report

36:27

of Trey Alexander, of Baylor Shireman, of

36:29

Steven Ashworth, of Ryan Caulk-Brenner, like you

36:31

were like, why is this team not

36:33

winning every single game? Or when it's

36:35

winning, why is it not winning by

36:37

more? And I kind

36:40

of felt like Trey Alexander

36:42

has been a little bit of a disappointment

36:44

this season. You know, he goes through the NBA

36:46

draft process last year, comes back and then in

36:48

this spot for him to go three for 12

36:50

from the field, 13 points,

36:53

like yes, you know, there

36:55

are other things that he's able to

36:57

contribute seven rebounds, one steal. Like, I

37:00

just think that this

37:02

Creighton team, it's

37:05

not that they poured it out against Oregon,

37:07

but they had to dig really, really

37:10

deep against Oregon. And I was sitting

37:12

there in the CBS Sports HQ studios

37:14

in Stanford, we're getting piped in all

37:16

of the post game, press

37:19

conferences, all the comments. And

37:21

you hear them talk about that

37:24

one point loss to San Diego State,

37:26

and how when they were in the huddle, and they

37:29

were talking in, you know,

37:31

interregulation, in the first overtime, in the

37:33

second overtime, they were like, we did

37:36

not come back. We did not pull

37:38

this team back together to lose like

37:40

this. I mean,

37:42

Matt, you tell me like, did

37:45

they pour it out? Was that their best

37:47

performance? Like, did they have to dig deep

37:49

and find some of their best stuff? Because

37:51

clearly, like, we

37:54

saw what, four games during the regular

37:56

season, where all of a sudden they

37:58

were like, whoa, Shout

38:01

out to Bart Torevic, like some 99s out

38:03

there, you know, like, yeah, some 99 game

38:06

scores out there. But I

38:08

didn't see that all season. Not

38:11

regularly, not consistently.

38:14

I would say, I'd say on

38:16

balance, Creighton gave us, maybe

38:18

it came a little bit shy of its total potential,

38:20

but I thought it did a pretty good job here.

38:22

This was obviously a tough, tough, tough

38:24

opponent. And I'm

38:27

seeing that shat here a couple of people saying Tennessee didn't even play

38:29

its best game. That's correct. I

38:32

mean, the run really flipped it. That was

38:34

key. And it was a short. Yeah. I

38:38

do not feel like this was Tennessee's best game.

38:40

I do feel like if I'm going to have

38:42

to do this, and if

38:46

you and GP do a lot of this

38:48

during the regular season, because heck

38:51

yes, I am a listener, you know,

38:53

all season long. If

38:56

you're going to be given the credit and

38:58

the blame, I think

39:01

I'm going more like, man,

39:03

Creighton. Yeah, I don't think Tennessee played

39:05

well enough that Creighton at

39:07

a medium game could not have won

39:09

this. Yeah, there

39:12

might be there might be something that if you're creating

39:14

fan, it is a stinger because you know, you well,

39:16

you knew the draw was tough. I

39:18

picked Creighton to come out of the region. My only

39:20

final four team team standing is Yukon. I had Houston

39:22

getting there. I had St. Mary's. I don't even talk

39:24

about that. And I had Creighton. They couldn't push it

39:27

on through here. They're just a

39:29

couple of couple of

39:31

tough spots and tough shots down the stretch.

39:34

Colt Brenner had like an offhanded left lefty that just

39:36

didn't seem like the right shot in a big moment

39:38

where if they had gotten two more, maybe make it

39:40

a little bit tighter, maybe gets a little bit more

39:42

in doubt. But hey, Creighton, a

39:46

nice run here as of late. And now

39:48

we wait and see on just how much

39:50

roster turnover they'll have. And we'll

39:52

see if that program can remain in the top 20

39:54

conversation overall. I

40:01

know you've been waiting for a moment like

40:03

this. You're gonna get Purdue, we'll get to the boilers in just

40:06

a second here. Have a team on

40:08

the top two line, Vols living

40:10

up to seed expectation, getting it done.

40:12

Dalton Connect had a couple of bang

40:14

bangs and really

40:16

made sure Tennessee got it done. Really

40:19

good stuff. And that friends

40:22

is our only chalk

40:24

matchup in the Elite

40:26

Eight. So let's transition right now, buddy.

40:28

And let's talk Purdue over Gonzaga. The

40:30

least compelling game and result of the

40:33

evening. One seed of Purdue

40:35

gets past number five Gonzaga, 80 to 68

40:37

on the Zag's end. A

40:41

ninth straight sweet 16 ends here. There's no shame

40:43

in it. It's a good season for Gonzaga. It

40:45

did better from a seed perspective, I think overall

40:48

than anyone thought. It is

40:50

now 0-3 versus Purdue in the past two

40:52

seasons. On the Zag's

40:54

end here, you got good contributions

40:56

out of Nemhard. I thought he had

40:58

a relatively decent game. I thought Graham

41:00

EK played well. Graham EK dropped in

41:02

a couple of triples. There was certainly

41:04

a surprise. Anton Watson. That's just outline

41:06

look a little bit better for EK

41:08

too. Correct, correct. Anton Watson, his

41:11

career comes to an end with a valiant

41:13

effort and overmatched effort. He fouled out, EK

41:15

fouled out. Gonzaga just

41:17

didn't have enough. Purdue eventually pulled away. I

41:19

got a few nuggets here, chefs to Chris Foreman also listening to

41:22

the pod. Here's what he sent along. Just

41:25

a couple of, just a couple of Purdue is now

41:27

five in the whole time against

41:29

Gonzaga. It's

41:31

won its first three tournament games by 79 points, which

41:34

is obviously outrageously, outrageously good and

41:37

good on Purdue for, you know,

41:39

not making any doubt about it

41:41

when it comes to this stuff. It continues

41:43

to play especially well. And then Zach Edie,

41:45

26.7 points, 16.3 rebounds on

41:49

67% field goal shooting in this

41:51

tournament. He's the first player to average better than 25 and

41:53

15 through three games

41:55

in the tournament. Since Larry Keenan at Memphis

41:57

in 73. Folks,

42:01

okay, and he's the only player to average 25 and 15 on better than

42:03

65% shooting

42:05

through three games in the tournament since they started

42:07

tracking this. And the data goes back to 60.

42:10

Edie just reinforcing his legendary status.

42:12

Purdue, Tennessee, couple of fan bases,

42:14

pressure was on your coaches, pressure

42:16

was on your teams. One of

42:18

you is guaranteed to wash

42:21

a lot of the stink off and get to the final four. And

42:23

for the other one, frankly, obviously,

42:25

the mores on Purdue to get that done than Tennessee,

42:27

it's gonna set up a heck of a matchup there.

42:31

I remain impressed by Purdue. It's almost

42:33

a little quiet, Chip,

42:35

it's almost a little quiet in how they were

42:38

able to swat away a Grambling State

42:41

and then just

42:43

totally, totally eviscerate Utah State. And

42:45

then Gonzaga tried to make it

42:47

like it was interesting for the

42:49

first half. But after that, we

42:51

didn't have that much whatsoever. And

42:53

they've in somewhat boring fashion been

42:55

able to push on through and making a lead

42:57

eight. Any quick thoughts from you on what the Boilermakers have

43:00

done? Yeah, I understand

43:02

it's quiet because you've been in your

43:04

silo, you've been breaking coaching news. But

43:06

I've been standing with a megaphone since

43:09

they asked me to rerank the sweet

43:11

16 saying that Purdue was the most

43:13

impressive team from the first weekend. That

43:16

like, yeah, I got you. I got

43:18

you like Yukon is still Yukon. They

43:21

still hold their position. But that in

43:23

terms of the way that I was

43:25

feeling about the Boilermakers after the Big

43:27

Ten tournament versus the way that I

43:29

was feeling about the Boilermakers. When they

43:32

eviscerated the regular season champions

43:34

from the Mountain West Conference, I

43:36

was like, I don't know. And

43:38

look, I've got Tom

43:40

Fennelly in my ear. Like all day.

43:44

So like, am

43:46

I going to be a little bit of a

43:48

doubter and a little bit of a hater? Yes,

43:50

that is my bias. Okay, my number one bias

43:52

is I want to be right about me. As

43:54

I've told you before, I want my opinions to

43:56

be right, want my picks to be right, yada,

43:58

yada, yada. But here

44:01

in Tomford, I'm like, okay, doubt Purdue, doubt

44:03

Purdue, doubt Purdue, doubt Purdue. But,

44:06

you know, I come into this tournament and

44:09

then I see the way that this

44:11

team handles their business. I see the

44:13

way that the guards

44:15

that were young a year ago are

44:17

grown up. I see the way that

44:19

the portal additions have hit. I see

44:22

the way that a team that was

44:24

like very middle of

44:26

the pack turns into one of the best

44:28

three point shooting teams in the entire country.

44:31

I just, I think it

44:33

is unfair for us to apply the old

44:37

standard. And I was actually talking to

44:40

a family friend.

44:44

His father is a Purdue alum. And

44:46

he says that even he is in

44:48

a position right now where

44:50

he's like, I just check

44:53

the game tracker till halftime. You know, like I

44:55

just, I can't handle it. But

44:58

you know what I don't have is those scars.

45:02

You know, like I don't have those disappointment

45:04

scars. I don't have the Carson Edwards is

45:06

going nuts. And then all of a sudden,

45:09

you know, we get

45:11

the bounce from the free throw and

45:14

then it gets thrown back and then

45:16

like put in by Virginia.

45:19

I don't have that. So I don't have

45:21

that emotional factor. I

45:24

see a team that is humming

45:27

right now. And I am so

45:29

impressed with the way that

45:31

they handled their business in the

45:33

first weekend. The fact that Gonzaga

45:35

was so trendy, right? You know,

45:38

like that. I don't know

45:40

if you check Sportsline. I'm a Sportsline

45:42

contributor. You know, I'm on the early

45:44

edge on Fridays and Saturdays here in

45:46

March Madness, but like a

45:48

lot of really sharp people run

45:51

Gonzaga. And they were like,

45:53

yeah, here we go. Come on. This is

45:55

when you get them. Producers

45:57

handle this business. It's different. Different

46:00

right now. So yeah, it is

46:03

there. Uh, they're rolling and

46:05

now they get they get Tennessee Let's do a quick

46:07

quick Don't want to keep

46:09

people too long here a quick look ahead

46:11

Purdue, Tennessee That is a rematch folks. These

46:13

teams played in Maui. Okay, they played it's

46:15

like Perdue and Gansaga play it was It

46:17

was and this was the semi Purdue

46:20

won 71 67 if you're curious connect had

46:23

16 in that game Jordan gaining at 15

46:25

off the bench No one else had double

46:27

figures Fletcher lawyer not

46:29

Zack 80 was your leading scorer in that

46:31

game And I'm just I wonder if Fletcher

46:33

lawyer was the leading scorer for Purdue in

46:35

a single other game the entire season I'm

46:38

gonna guess no if anyone in the

46:40

live chat wants the fact But check me in real time

46:42

or in the comments if you're watching afterward I'm gonna say

46:44

that was the only game lawyer led Purdue in scoring But

46:46

I I can't reel that off the top of my head

46:48

Edie went for 23 points and 10 boards Purdue

46:50

got the win there one versus

46:52

two excellent. Excellent I mean you thought a

46:54

great undercard that is for Sunday on CBS As

46:58

60 seconds or less ship Patterson lay out the matchup for

47:01

me Tennessee

47:03

doesn't have the size Purdue's

47:06

going to the Final Four Matt Painter

47:08

finally getting over the hump Boy

47:12

the makers first Final Four since 1980. I Love

47:16

it. I love it. I love it Our friend

47:18

had keem Darmish called it the prove it region

47:20

on selection Sunday and what is more prove it

47:22

than Purdue in Tennessee playing for a spot in

47:25

the Final Four. I think the Boilermakers get it

47:27

done just an outstanding. I mean Love

47:30

a great elite eight situation. I Like

47:33

yeah, like I like you're out

47:35

of nowhere situations, but I

47:38

am a Traditionalist like give me the

47:40

heavyweight fights here No, we got a little something

47:42

We got a little something across the board here

47:44

and we'll wrap the pod by by quickly hitting

47:46

on all four of these because what you Get

47:48

in the elite eight is you get your standalone

47:50

game your final games of

47:52

the season Basketball games basketball arena

47:54

everyone tunes in to one game.

47:56

Oh, yeah, not a football Stadium

47:58

great call There's

48:01

something about a league game that just

48:03

truly that just it pulls it pulls

48:05

us in right and so we've got

48:07

we've got Duke and NC State we've

48:09

got the charmed situation with

48:11

NC State and you know the power

48:13

conference sleeper that's awesome you got the

48:15

one versus the two you've got the

48:17

chalk matchup and a fan base

48:19

that will just be cleanse by merely making

48:21

the final four and then quickly let's look

48:23

at the Saturday here. We'll

48:25

start with the place that I am not at.

48:27

We'll go Clemson Alabama. You've even got in this

48:29

one. You've got the football matchup on a basketball

48:31

court and then obviously you've got the behemoth that

48:33

you can we'll save you come for last year.

48:38

60 seconds or less Clemson versus

48:40

Alabama. Well actually real quick

48:43

Clemson versus Alabama if the football teams

48:45

played two weeks from right now. I

48:47

honestly don't is Bama favored

48:50

who's who's winning that game in your opinion on

48:52

the football field. If it was a famous favorite

48:54

I would take Clemson and actually we on

48:57

the cover three podcast. We did

48:59

the bracket if it was

49:01

college football teams and

49:03

you'll like this through 27 games

49:06

20 of them were right

49:08

for the football teams. That's good stuff right there.

49:11

I inserted it the cover three

49:14

bracket challenge my entry

49:17

is the one we did live on air

49:20

of like you know just football team

49:23

and last night Danny

49:25

Canale Bud Elliott everybody like like

49:27

Clemson Alabama like football bracket lives

49:29

because we had Clemson in Alabama

49:31

in the elite eight. You know

49:33

like that was what we had

49:35

in the football bracket. So all

49:37

right. I in quicky look ahead

49:39

here. Clemson is the sixth Bama

49:42

as the four. Who

49:44

gets it done. What are you looking for in this game particularly

49:46

chip. I think Alabama poured it

49:48

out. I would take Clemson. I

49:50

know they're about two and

49:52

a half point favorite dude.

49:54

Yeah. That was everything. I

49:56

mean the waves and the waves.

50:00

way that North Carolina and Alabama both

50:02

threw haymakers at each other. Do

50:04

you think they can reload the musket? And

50:07

when I say reload the musket, I

50:09

use the term musket intentionally because I'm

50:11

talking about like, you know, the

50:14

full revolutionary war. It takes that long to be

50:17

able to put it back. And you've also got

50:19

the injury issues that Alabama has been dealing with

50:21

all across the board. I just, I don't

50:24

know, man, Pringle was laboring. Shout out to

50:26

him, you know, for the way he was

50:29

able to power through. But this,

50:31

this is like Clemson team's playing with a lot of

50:34

confidence right now. Um, a couple

50:37

of coaches here, obviously that haven't made the final

50:39

four. Uh, one of them is going to break

50:41

through and get there. Um, that's

50:44

also the case with obviously NC State and Duke.

50:46

Shire's never been there as a head coach. Um,

50:49

keep in mind every tournament

50:51

since 2013, a five or worst has

50:54

made the final four every tournament since

50:56

2013. So that's the

50:58

continue either state or Clemson needs

51:00

to win. Uh, Alabama's

51:03

offense is unreal. And,

51:05

uh, but did

51:07

they look that impressive against North Carolina? They,

51:09

they, I thought, I thought the coaching job

51:11

was really impressive against UNC. Um,

51:13

and, and I, and I do overwhelmed the

51:15

Tar Heels though. No, but they, but they,

51:18

but they were able to get it done. And, uh,

51:20

this is a top five. This is top five

51:22

offense. They're just as effective, if not more so

51:24

inside the three point arc. Oh, by the way,

51:26

uh, cause they can get some, they can get

51:28

some buckets near, uh, near the 10 that's

51:31

our set. That's by the way, that's your second tip

51:33

on, on, on Saturday night coming out of LA. Uh,

51:36

it should be a very interesting one. Mark Sears and

51:39

his battle now with yet another good point

51:41

guard chase Hunter and how they match up.

51:43

And then PJ hall

51:45

being the potential difference maker in this game.

51:47

That's a, that's some tasty stuff. And yeah,

51:50

football on their hardwood. I love that. Let's

51:52

go quickly. Yukon versus Illinois. This is where

51:54

I am. I'm in Boston. Uh,

51:56

shout out to the TV makers here. Guster

51:59

plays an. album release show Saturday night

52:01

about 10 minutes from where the TD

52:03

Garden is. If I can get

52:06

done my writing and my HQ stuff, no, no, no,

52:08

no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to get

52:10

there for the start of the show, but I'm hoping

52:12

to get there for about the final seven or eight

52:14

songs of the set list. It's

52:16

a, it's a really fun, really, really awesome thing. If it

52:18

was the second tip, I wouldn't have a chance, but I'll

52:20

try and meet up with the fellas there. It's a, it's

52:22

Kismet man. That's, uh, that's really, really awesome. That's for the

52:24

stuff on the floor here, Chip. Um,

52:27

top seed, the Yukon. I'm going to repeat

52:29

what I wrote overnight after the

52:31

game, after seeing what you kind of did and

52:33

what Illinois did. I

52:36

desperately want a competitive game. I want Illinois.

52:38

I want you kind of be pushed. I

52:40

asked Hurley about it earlier in the day

52:42

today on Friday on off day media availability.

52:44

If he had any kind of concern, if

52:46

there was anything that basically his staff could do,

52:49

you can't have some close games. Don't get me wrong,

52:51

but it is not conditioned. It's, it's, it's really, really

52:53

easy for them to win really, really easy. And if

52:55

he has concerns about if you're in a one possession

52:57

game with 90 seconds to go and how the team

52:59

might react, I want to see Yukon in that spot.

53:01

I want to see a really, really good game. I'm

53:03

not going to predict it to happen. I need to

53:05

see someone actually push Yukon to the brink before I

53:07

predict for it to happen. Has not happened so far.

53:09

So I'm going to go with that again. Um, it's

53:11

a, it's a behemoth. It's a

53:14

beast. It's so far ahead of everyone else in

53:16

this bracket and this tournament in this sport right

53:18

now. So I will take Yukon to win and

53:20

Yukon to win big. What are you looking for?

53:22

And, uh, yeah, what, uh, what intrigues you most

53:24

about Huskies versus Illini? Well, Matt, I think we

53:26

suck in close games, you know, like, yeah,

53:29

that's what he said. So yeah, we got to do the action. No,

53:33

no, this is a

53:35

BUN NANAS. The fact

53:38

that Yukon has been able to

53:40

not only match the record of

53:42

double digit NCAA tournament wins in consecutive order,

53:44

which would be six, which is something they

53:46

did last year on the way to the

53:48

NCAA tournament. But now they have extended that

53:50

to nine. And I do not think it's

53:53

crazy to think they're going to double it

53:55

up. Yeah.

53:57

My, my columns got a whole bunch of stats.

53:59

on what they're doing historically. Yukon, this tournament

54:01

dating back to last and as a reigning

54:03

champ, it's. Yeah, no,

54:06

I just think we're

54:08

dealing with something different.

54:10

Yes. It

54:12

was so funny. Have you

54:15

done, have you done any hits with, shout

54:17

out to Katie Boxx, Katie Boxx on

54:20

Yeah. So we were sitting in

54:22

Stanford, we were in one of the green rooms, you're

54:24

about to go on and do one of our segments and

54:28

she was like, oh, so like, who do

54:31

you have to win at all? I said,

54:33

well, I took Yukon with the greatest boost

54:35

I could get like any red blooded American

54:38

because it's just like, it's yeah, Yukon

54:41

feels like the national champion and you get

54:43

the best price that you can possibly get

54:46

before the tournament because that is not going to

54:48

be the price every single

54:50

round that you continue to advance. Yes,

54:52

of course. Yeah. And I just,

54:55

I've seen nothing from the Huskies that has

54:57

changed my opinion on that one. So, yep.

54:59

Here's why I come down on all this.

55:02

Yukon's final

55:04

result will be the defining

55:06

story of the tournament because either it's going to

55:08

win the NCAA title and that will be its

55:10

final result. Or fall short and that defines the

55:13

season. Or it will fall short and the way

55:15

that it falls short will knock us all back

55:17

and be something that's basically the second most memorable

55:19

event of the tournament to the actual national champion

55:22

there. I agree.

55:24

Let's see if we can get it. Illinois plays

55:26

a different, they're both top two offenses in the

55:28

country. I

55:30

can't wait for this game. And this guy just can't

55:32

get me. But in Utah, one in eight against top

55:34

two seeds. That's the knowledge. Yeah. Illinois is one in

55:36

eight all the time. He has top two seeds. And

55:40

Yukon's margin is just,

55:42

it's ridiculous. So, was Arizona a

55:44

four in the Elite Eight comeback

55:46

in 05? No,

55:50

that's the, no. Well,

55:53

yeah, what was so- The lone win, the

55:56

lone win was an 89 in the Elite

55:58

Eight. Um,

56:01

that, that is, it was one thing that

56:03

like, I was like, man, cause you always

56:05

look back into Oh five runs. It was

56:07

a stat that our folks sent along here.

56:11

Um, Oh five turning. I'm

56:13

looking it up here right here, bud. Um,

56:15

when they played Arizona was a three. Yep. Arizona

56:17

was three. Not a top two seed. That's why

56:20

90 89 classic game down there to Paul poll

56:22

results, by the way, which non

56:24

Tennessee lower seated team, do you

56:26

give the best chance at making through the final four

56:29

NC State is leading 41% Clemson,

56:31

not that far behind 35% Illinois,

56:34

the best team of the group

56:36

for all the ratings and

56:39

metrics, 24% against you kind of will,

56:41

uh, it will be interesting and uh,

56:43

and folks, Clemson, I want to give

56:45

a shout out to chip Patterson. He

56:47

has been grinding kill. He's subscribed

56:50

to cover three primarily cost of a bug guy.

56:52

He comes in and he moonlights for us with

56:54

call tubes coverage every year. You are a stud

56:56

for this ship. I appreciate you, bud. So much.

56:59

I'm going on and making it a late night and

57:01

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57:12

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57:14

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57:17

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57:25

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