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Good Day Everyone. Listen with the

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or wherever you get the podcast. As

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always, I'm joined by my co host Dad

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and Chad. I am still fired up from last.

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Week's Good

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Day Curio.

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Wow, it was a doozy

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man. We you know, we we try

0:52

to plan out what we're doing ahead of time, and

0:56

we had picked like a different number

0:58

for each episode and Wing fell

1:01

into the rabbit hole with one particular

1:03

story and it took the whole hour and

1:07

it infuriated me and I went off

1:09

a little bit. So I do apologize,

1:12

but I'm very passionate about certain things,

1:14

and you know, being a mother

1:16

and having children, you

1:20

know, the the safety and

1:22

concerns for miners is

1:25

something that is very important to

1:27

me because I have two little ones. And

1:30

you know, it triggered me, It really did.

1:32

And if you don't know what I'm talking about, and you didn't

1:34

listen to last week's episode, go back

1:36

and listen to it after

1:39

you listen to this one, because it

1:41

was good. It was really good,

1:43

and it came from the heart and it

1:46

was unbelievable. But if you don't know what the

1:49

hell I'm talking about. We're diving into the

1:51

past of Vince McMahon w w F

1:54

slash w WE scandals,

1:56

and

1:58

we're continuing to Because we

2:01

only got through like one point five.

2:06

We say that didn't even scratch the surface.

2:08

We didn't scratch the surface. And this might

2:10

be a twelve parter, but you know, if you guys

2:12

are digging this comment, that's that's

2:14

what we're doing it for. So just thought it

2:17

was kind of interesting to go

2:19

back in time and talk about things

2:21

that either forgot happened or he didn't know

2:23

that happened, and a

2:25

lot of these things I did not know, So

2:28

it's intriguing to me now

2:32

again going to use the word allegedly

2:34

because neither Chad nor I were

2:37

there at the time that any of this stuff happened.

2:39

But this is all on record. This

2:42

isn't breaking news. We're not you

2:45

know, coming at you with a news story.

2:47

These are scandals from the past

2:49

that have been you

2:51

know, penned years ago, some

2:54

thirty years ago, and we're

2:56

just bringing them up and discussing them and

2:58

giving our two cents about it. So we're

3:01

going to continue.

3:04

Man, I'm still trying to catch my breath listening back

3:06

to that episode, you were fired up, but rightfully

3:09

so. I mean, anybody who can take theirselves

3:12

themselves out of that bubble and

3:14

put yourselves in the real world, you.

3:16

Might no

3:22

voice.

3:27

Better.

3:28

Yep, I think I just hid to me button all

3:30

right, okay, okay.

3:35

Okay, right, yeah, yeah, anybody who

3:37

can actually, you know, remember

3:40

this part of the story with

3:43

Vince McMahon. This was one that kind

3:45

of came back after years

3:47

and you always wondered what had

3:50

happened to this individual,

3:52

and when the story was brought to

3:54

light, it gave you a little context.

3:56

But this one also went away for

3:58

a long time and came in the recent

4:01

days of the Vince McMahon scandals

4:03

and cover ups and payouts. And we're talking

4:05

about Rita Chatterton, the

4:08

wrestling referee, the WWS first

4:11

female referee. Nineteen eighty

4:13

six made her a referee debut in

4:15

the WWF on WWFTV. I

4:17

remember seeing her and couldn't

4:21

believe there was a WWF referee. I started watching

4:23

in nineteen eighty seven, So when I saw

4:25

the clips from eighty six and saw a female referee,

4:27

I didn't get it.

4:28

Because if you blinked she

4:32

was gone.

4:33

So how long was she actually.

4:37

You know there the actual

4:39

timeline that she was there as

4:42

a referee was, and I will pull that

4:44

up for you as we speak, because

4:46

I want to be precise.

4:48

She did them.

4:50

She makes her television debut in January

4:53

nineteen eighty five, and

4:56

she, let's see,

5:00

by mid eighty

5:02

six, she's gone.

5:05

Okay, so allegently she's

5:08

saying that Vince McMahon, I

5:12

don't think we can use that word, but Vince

5:14

McMahon's faults okay, assaulted

5:17

her, forced himself upon her in a

5:19

limousine in nineteen eighty six. Correct,

5:22

So right after this happens, she

5:25

gets fired, correct,

5:28

apparently, because then she's not there anymore.

5:30

Right, yes, so according

5:33

to Rita that's her name, right,

5:35

yes, Rita? Yep. According

5:38

to her, she met uh mister

5:40

McMahon in his limo and

5:43

then he forced himself on her, not

5:45

once, but twice, she says,

5:48

and then he fired her by

5:50

invoking a rule about

5:53

her not being allowed to fraternize

5:56

with coworkers. So let

5:59

me get this street. He forced

6:02

himself on her twice, wouldn't

6:05

that mean he was fraternizing with

6:07

her and not the other way

6:10

around?

6:11

Makes no sense.

6:13

Because when he says, you know, fractionizing

6:16

with the coworkers, what incident

6:18

is he bringing up? Think

6:22

about that?

6:23

Is it?

6:23

Is it the limousine incident

6:27

where he's saying, you know, they have

6:29

relations and I'm a coworker. She shouldn't

6:31

have did it right?

6:33

Well?

6:33

Did she have a choice not to do it?

6:37

Usually in that in that situation, there's

6:39

no choice that's given.

6:40

It you're being sexually assaulted.

6:43

I'm sure he didn't say, well, Rito,

6:46

would you like to have sex with me?

6:47

Now?

6:47

No? Okay, I'll stop.

6:49

No.

6:50

According to her, he forced himself

6:52

on her two times. Yeah,

6:54

So to me, he's fraternizing with her

6:57

and she gets fired because

6:59

of it because

7:02

and uses that excuse. But

7:05

there's nothing else that's pulled up, you

7:07

know what I mean? Like it doesn't say well.

7:10

In Albany and New York on January fifteenth,

7:13

blah blah blah, I saw Rita

7:15

touching the butt of another

7:17

well known WWF referee

7:20

like something like that. You know what I'm saying,

7:23

Like, what are what's

7:25

the story behind her being fired?

7:27

What was in print? What was

7:29

the reason? This is very vague to me, It's.

7:33

Yeah, it's weird.

7:34

There's her whole story has a lot

7:36

of missing parts. It feels like, you

7:39

know, it's like now,

7:43

wait, just repeat that again. What part of it feels

7:45

big? That the release part.

7:49

Where he says she was she

7:51

was fired for she's

7:53

not being allowed to fraternize with the coworkers

7:57

visually. You give an example, right, what's

8:00

the example that was given to

8:03

me? If it's her being with mister

8:05

McMahon, he

8:07

forced himself on her, it wasn't the other

8:09

way around.

8:11

Yes, there's there's two.

8:12

I heard fired for cause, but

8:15

also that she did resign from the

8:17

company.

8:18

What is the cause?

8:19

That's well, that's the million dollar question.

8:21

What's yeah, well, what is the reason.

8:25

There's no, there's no reason given.

8:28

So if there were examples, if she was

8:30

out of line because she, you

8:33

know, maybe slept with and

8:36

this never happened, I'm out of the I'm just

8:38

making up scenarios before anybody freaks

8:40

out on me. But if if she was accused

8:42

of sleeping with a fellow wrestler or

8:44

which is very common, I mean, everybody

8:47

dates everybody because you're always on

8:49

the road, so that that statement

8:51

is ridiculous to me. Fraternizing

8:53

with coworkers. Everybody fraternizes,

8:56

you know what I mean. But if there were

8:59

specific instances, why

9:02

weren't they laid out? What's

9:05

the real reason? Why did

9:07

she get fired? Was

9:10

it because of the limousine incident?

9:12

Like? What I this to

9:14

me? I it's

9:17

very.

9:17

Vague, weird. She's got

9:19

a weird story overall.

9:21

Okay, she I don't believe her, right,

9:24

No, I completely agree with you.

9:25

And obviously, look the payoffs.

9:28

When you get paid off, the amount of money that she's

9:30

gotten paid, there's obviously something

9:32

to the story.

9:33

So go into that. So she gets fired,

9:35

right, and is it?

9:37

Like?

9:38

Is she told to keep her mouth shut and Vincent

9:40

will give her so much money?

9:41

So, but what I'm saying is, so she her

9:44

brother wanted to be a wrestler, Okay,

9:47

her brother her brother passes away.

9:49

Okay, so she wants

9:51

to be she'll carry on her brother's

9:54

dream. Okay. But then she gets

9:56

suffers a collapse lung and can't

9:58

be a wrestler. So she trains to me become a referee.

10:01

Okay.

10:02

So that's how she becomes the

10:04

first ever female wrestling referee

10:07

when she's signed by the WWF. When

10:09

she joins the WWF. Guys

10:12

in the back don't want her. There's

10:14

there's agents that don't want her. They

10:16

want the boys to injure her. There's they don't

10:18

they're they're not receptive to the wrestling

10:21

referee.

10:21

What because she's female?

10:23

Because she's female.

10:24

But it's if you're if you're Vince

10:26

and you're expanding at the rate he was

10:29

in nineteen eighty five, you go, Okay,

10:31

we're blowing this place out out

10:33

of the water. We're making wrestling

10:35

this worldwide extravaganza. I'm

10:37

gonna have the first female referee. He

10:40

gets her in Cosmopolitan magazine,

10:42

which you know at the time, Cosmopolitan

10:44

that's a great feature,

10:46

right, that's a great publication. Is

10:49

yeah, Well, but you know when people were actually reading

10:51

magazines, like picking it up off the newsstand,

10:53

that's a great place to be featured, right, And

10:56

they get behind her.

10:57

It's just it's it's crazy to

10:59

think that.

11:00

You're the and they when they used to do the Tuesday

11:02

night Titans talk show, which was Vince's Johnny

11:05

Carson esque one

11:07

on one chatting where you got to find out

11:09

the personalities of the superstars.

11:13

You just don't go from being a featured

11:16

player and the first ever female referee

11:18

to boom, You're gone.

11:21

Boom, you're erase from history. You're

11:23

allegedly paid off and

11:26

we don't know why.

11:27

So as this went away

11:30

and away from mystery in ninety two, when

11:32

we talked about in the last week's episode, the ring boy

11:34

scandal, the steroid scandal and all that stuff

11:36

came back to light. Well so did

11:38

Rita Chatterton with

11:41

her story about the

11:43

Vince McMahon alleged assault

11:45

in the back of the limo.

11:46

Okay, but my question to you is do

11:48

we know how much she was paid off?

11:50

So we found out later on it was something

11:52

to the effect of eleven

11:56

The lawsuit was eleven point seventy

11:58

five million in day images in

12:03

Let me see what year was this ninety.

12:05

She didn't get that.

12:07

That was in June. But that was all the way in June ninety

12:09

two. June twenty two,

12:11

excuse.

12:11

Me, right, but it says here that McMahon

12:14

pledged not to pay her. So did she

12:16

ever get that about?

12:17

I thought they settled. I thought she got to pay out.

12:20

It said. On November third, the

12:23

lawyer for Chatterton said McMahon

12:25

sent McMahon a demand letter for eleven

12:28

point seventy five million, with McMahon

12:30

pledging not to pay her.

12:34

And then I thought

12:36

she got paid out? I thought she, I

12:39

thought she say.

12:41

It doesn't say here if she got paid out or not. It

12:44

just says that he said he wasn't going to pay her.

12:47

But is that considered hush money or

12:50

is that the eleven mil? Is that because

12:52

she suffered? You know, just

12:55

like, yeah, she couldn't

12:57

eat, she was sick, she couldn't leave her house, blah

12:59

blah blah blah blah, same thing, loss

13:02

of wages. Uh, that

13:05

that type of thing. It wasn't necessarily

13:07

hush money, Like was she ever paid

13:09

any hush money after? Because

13:11

she was just fired?

13:14

Like the exact sum of the multimillion

13:16

dollar settlement with Rita Chatterton, which was

13:18

completed last month, was undisclosed.

13:21

The settlement extends a run of payments release

13:23

to the sexual misconduct allegations

13:25

in Bobby McMahon that totaled nineteen

13:27

point six million before the latest

13:29

agreement. That so

13:31

when they revealed he had paid out

13:34

all that money, she was a part

13:36

of it.

13:38

I'm just wondering how much she got and

13:40

if after you know,

13:42

after allegedly what happened in

13:44

the limit happened? Did he say

13:46

to her, Okay, I'm gonna

13:48

give you X amount of dollars, don't tell

13:50

anybody, And then she sang

13:52

like a bird.

13:53

Yeah that I don't know.

13:54

But this one, now I see something that says seven point

13:56

five million dollars.

13:58

Right, Okay, so

14:00

she got paid something.

14:02

This one says so much in twenty eighteen,

14:06

twenty eighteen. This one says in twenty

14:08

eighteen, she got seven point five.

14:11

Got it took how many years to get paid?

14:14

Settlement of Chatterson comes after a seven point

14:16

five million dollar settlement with McMahon was reached

14:18

in twenty eighteen.

14:19

Wow, seven

14:22

point five you said seven

14:25

point five mil. That's

14:27

that's a lot of money.

14:28

Chatterson allegend in a nineteen nineteen interview that

14:30

McMahon told her she needed to satisfy

14:33

him if she wanted to receive a

14:35

five hundred thousand dollars contract with

14:37

WWE, and then assaulted

14:40

her in the back of a limousine in New York. Chatterson's

14:42

attorney said November demand

14:45

letter that she had passed a polygraph test

14:47

and multiple sources had corroborated her

14:49

account, to whom the Wall Street Journal

14:51

told Chatterson contemporary told

14:54

him about the alleged assault.

14:55

A referee made five hundred

14:58

thousand dollars.

15:00

Yeah, nineteen

15:02

eighty five. Five.

15:05

Maybe because she was the first woman. They were

15:07

going to push her to the moon because she was the I

15:09

mean, that's that's a big accomplishment to

15:12

be the first female referee in the

15:14

business.

15:15

Well, they've erased her from history.

15:17

So Jessica Carr, current

15:19

WWE referee, is

15:21

the first female referee according to WWE.

15:24

That's not true. But anyway,

15:28

this to me another

15:31

sad story, you know, a

15:34

very sad story. You do this to keep

15:36

your job, or you do this to get that contract,

15:38

and it's

15:41

not right. It's

15:43

not right if she was talented enough, you

15:46

know, to get the position and keep

15:49

the position, you

15:53

know, and she loses her job,

15:56

like he he assaults

15:58

her and then she loses her job. What happened

16:01

between that time period is

16:04

she let go because it's glooming

16:06

over his head that I just assaulted

16:09

somebody. I can't have her around here. A

16:12

poor choice, a bad judgment,

16:14

Like what is going through Vince's

16:17

mind after this happens.

16:19

That's at a time where he's doing everything right

16:22

he's hit clicking on all cylinders.

16:24

Was he ever known to you

16:27

know, be under substance abuse or was

16:30

there any stories about Vince like

16:32

with drugs.

16:33

Or they

16:36

there had been rumors that he may have partaken

16:38

in a couple of substances that

16:40

were the color white.

16:44

Okay, all right, so let's see you

16:46

have this cute up.

16:48

All right. This is when she came forward

16:50

in nineteen eighty two.

16:51

This is a part of Heraldo Rivera's

16:54

now it can be told, right, I believe is now

16:56

it can be told.

16:57

This is a very weird screenshop.

17:00

Jimmy Hart Lay great, Virgil Hawk,

17:03

It's some animal.

17:05

It's very weird. It's weird

17:07

the way every wrestler's position that Vince

17:10

is just like, yeah, I don't know, I

17:13

don't know what's going on.

17:14

GiB here. What Virgil can do to himself?

17:18

I thought there was Lennie Pofo.

17:19

Virgil can do it too.

17:20

Oh my god, Oh my god.

17:23

Okay, anyway, here

17:25

we go.

17:27

Vince McMahon has refused all invitations

17:30

to respond to these charges.

17:32

Vince McMahon may not have been talking to

17:34

us. Other people were the.

17:36

Next thing I know, Vince

17:40

pants.

17:42

This woman claims McMahon told her

17:44

sex.

17:44

Was part of her job, was worth a

17:46

half a million.

17:47

Dollars a year. Her story when we

17:49

continue our investigation.

17:50

In a moment, and

17:54

he took my hand and he kept putting

17:57

my hand on his.

18:00

Honest penis.

18:01

He started telling me that he

18:06

knew I didn't have a job. I had left Freidola because

18:08

of him. He

18:10

knew that I had a daughter and that he

18:12

could either make me or break me. The

18:15

choice was mine.

18:19

And he made me have oral sex with and

18:27

he started to get really excited, and.

18:31

I pulled away, and he got really

18:34

angry and said that it was worth a half

18:36

a million dollars a year, and

18:42

when I said no, he said that

18:44

I had better satisfy.

18:45

Him, and

18:48

he started pulling my pants off, and

18:51

he pulled me on top of him,

18:54

and he satisfied himself through

18:57

intercourse.

18:58

Afterwards, Rada Marie said she worked

19:00

for the WWF only three

19:02

or four more times, and the single

19:04

mother of a teenage daughter says she

19:06

kept silent about McMahon's advances for

19:08

almost six years.

19:10

I held off for a long time because of my parents.

19:13

Both of my parents were very ill. My mother

19:16

died a year ago. My father died

19:18

two weeks ago. Between

19:23

not having to worry about my parents' health and

19:26

with other people coming forward, God,

19:29

I just hope somebody listens.

19:31

Rita says she is trying to reach an out

19:33

of court compensation settlement McMahon

19:36

perhaps inspired by the success of it.

19:39

So when she says, with other people coming forward,

19:41

who is she referring to?

19:42

I think that's in reference to all the Ringboy

19:45

scandal and Mary Hodson and all

19:47

the other stuff, because and Tom Cole, they're the.

19:49

Other ones that are interviewed

19:51

on this special.

19:52

Now here's if we reference

19:55

the stuff talked about in twenty twenty

19:57

four, twenty twenty three, very

20:00

much in line with his

20:03

moves that were made on

20:05

Janelle Grant, the

20:08

pulling down on the pants, the way

20:11

he talked. That is how

20:13

it was described in the court filings

20:16

that were released, where if you.

20:17

Read them line by line, very

20:20

much.

20:21

Almost identical

20:24

to how it was described.

20:26

We'll go back, go

20:29

back, and uh, Greg

20:31

Valentine's.

20:33

Greg Valentine Greg in this story.

20:37

So apparently he told the Wall Street Journal

20:41

because they shared a parking lot

20:43

in Albany, New York, right, So

20:45

I guess they were neighbors or something.

20:47

No, they smoked a jay. I think it was at a show.

20:50

Oh, they shared a joint. I'm sorry, yeah,

20:52

Oh, excuse me. I

20:58

thought they shared a parking lot, like they

21:00

parked their cars there. Okay, so they shared a joint

21:02

in a parking lot in Albany.

21:06

He didn't believe the story because

21:10

he didn't believe that she was attractive

21:13

enough for Vince McMahon to make a pass at

21:15

her. When

21:17

did that ever stop a man from

21:19

assaulting a woman? You

21:22

tell me, when

21:25

did that ever? Oh? Well,

21:27

I only do tens. I only

21:29

assault tends. You're a five. Get out

21:31

of here. When did that ever happen?

21:34

Come on? Unbelievable?

21:38

Well, he infuriates me.

21:40

If you watched back in the day the TNT Show,

21:42

I mean, Vince did faught over her

21:45

very much. So you know, when she's on the talk

21:47

show, the TNT Show, he was he

21:49

was very complimentary of her.

21:51

Look again, that's

21:54

he's in character.

21:55

I don't know how much of the character he was

21:57

portraying. Now looking back, I had right,

22:00

you know, And that's you look for glimpses

22:03

and we could do a whole another show

22:05

on the character. Coming

22:07

to reality. But I listened to

22:09

what he used to say about Elizabeth differently.

22:12

Now I listened to the things he used to say about Tammy

22:15

differently.

22:15

Now.

22:16

I mean he he would go all in Sable.

22:19

I mean obviously he was in love with Sable,

22:22

right, he loved Sable.

22:24

I mean, this is incredible.

22:26

So people have

22:29

compared his

22:32

love for women, beautiful

22:34

women, to him marrying

22:36

Linda. And there he quoted

22:39

in it was it Howard Stern? I

22:43

think it was. I think it was the Howard Stern Show

22:45

when he did it the one time and these girls

22:47

came walking in. They were beautiful young girls,

22:49

right, and Howard said something like

22:51

is that your type? And he goes, well, my wife

22:53

is my type, which was a great

22:55

answer, great answer.

22:58

But now Linda has different

23:00

look than all these females

23:02

that he's you know, gushing over. Right,

23:06

Yeah, she's not the typical blonde

23:09

bombshell like a Sable

23:11

or Sonny or something like that. Yet he loved

23:13

her and he married her. So you

23:16

know, uh saying what

23:18

Greg said, you know, not his type?

23:21

What is his type? What is

23:23

any man's type? Good point of vagina,

23:26

that's what that's what the type? Va

23:30

boies boobs

23:32

and a vagina.

23:34

So you know, yeah, that's a great

23:36

point.

23:38

That's I mean, come on,

23:42

that's the way I would.

23:45

You know.

23:45

But again, listening back to what she said and then

23:47

reading that file in a lot of the

23:50

same things that I read, and

23:52

now it's it's it's in line.

23:54

With the same stuff.

23:56

So he's got a checklist

23:59

of things that he liked to do, and

24:01

it seems like going back forty.

24:03

Years, it's the same way.

24:05

It's he likes to

24:07

have those almost humiliating things

24:10

he does to the victim.

24:13

She she was fired anyway shortly

24:15

afterwards. So because

24:17

she did what she did, you

24:20

know, she didn't want to apparently is

24:22

what she's saying. But she did what she did and she still

24:25

got fired. Yeah, so she should

24:27

have just fought, like Helen got out of that limo. Yeah,

24:30

she got screwed two

24:32

different ways.

24:33

Now, five hundred thousand dollars contract.

24:35

Did you see the number of how much he got paid

24:37

on those dates?

24:38

She wrote on the calendar.

24:39

One hundred dollars on one, one seventy five

24:42

on the other.

24:42

I was like, what where's

24:44

the five hundred grand?

24:46

Your draw must have been like twenty

24:48

two fifty. It

24:50

was terrible. That's terrible, absolutely

24:54

horrifying. But again,

24:57

you know, if I'm putting

25:00

and it's just me, if I'm putting

25:02

myself into that position, I'm getting the hell

25:04

out of that limo, or I'm screaming

25:07

my head off to draw somebody to come

25:09

help me something. You

25:12

can take your contract and shove it up your ass.

25:14

I don't want it if

25:16

I have to do something like this. And

25:19

she had to degrade herself and she got

25:21

nothing out of it, right, absolutely

25:25

nothing out of it, whereas you know, the Genelle

25:27

Grant story is completely

25:30

different. She was getting la lavish

25:33

gifts, she had a job, she

25:36

had a nice home. He

25:38

was not that I'm saying it was right, but he was

25:40

taking care of her. But she had

25:43

to degrade herself over and over

25:45

again to get that kind of stuff, which

25:50

you know, it's different, it's a different scenario.

25:52

It's a different story. And

25:55

she still made more money than Janelle

25:58

because this girl apparently got set one point

26:00

five million dollars from it.

26:02

Right, and she only got the one million dollar payoff.

26:06

Right, and she didn't have to get dutied

26:08

one.

26:11

That's a good point.

26:14

And have

26:17

to sit in it disgusting.

26:20

You know, I really I

26:22

don't know. I don't know what's up

26:24

with these girls. I don't get it. I'm

26:27

getting out of that limo. He

26:31

is a I've said this. He's a polarizing

26:34

figure. He really is. He's

26:37

scary. He's like

26:41

just everybody sees him and

26:43

the whole room just stops and

26:46

he just walks through. I've seen

26:48

it. I've been there. I know. But

26:51

if I'm in that position, I'm going to tell him to

26:53

go to hell, and I'm gonna either get out of the car

26:56

or run out of that room or some

27:02

Just if the scenario is

27:04

weird, don't do it.

27:07

Just don't put yourself in that position. Don't

27:09

get in the car if you're

27:11

alone with them. Why

27:13

are they in a limit? Where are they going? Were

27:15

they going somewhere? Was

27:17

it parked? I need

27:19

details, I need to know these things.

27:21

Yeah, was it outside a show? Where they in

27:23

the.

27:25

Why are they getting in? They want to have a private

27:27

conversation, like at least when

27:30

he asked to talk to me, we were walking around

27:32

the parameter of the building, so there were other

27:34

people, like I was never

27:37

everybody was there and it was still

27:39

awkward as hell, and

27:41

I was still on edge with this guy,

27:44

you know what I mean, because

27:46

he's it's McMahon. He's

27:48

the boss, he's the leader, he's the

27:51

power guy. But I mean,

27:53

you know, somebody tells you, all right, there's a limo

27:56

in the back. Let's go talk now. Can we just talk

27:58

over here in the corner where there's eight million people

28:00

still in my view?

28:03

And it's something funky happen. Not

28:05

good things are gonna happen. Terrible

28:07

things are gonna happen.

28:15

See, and I wonder like at the time, So let's

28:17

just say you go to somebody you

28:19

know, you're you're let's

28:22

not even say you know read so her ring

28:24

name was Rita Marie.

28:25

So let's say you're reading Marie. You go to somebody.

28:27

Let's just say it's Hulk Hogan, right, Hulk

28:30

Hogan's the top guy. Yeah,

28:32

you know, is Hulk Hogan gonna be the kind

28:34

of guy who goes to Vince and say, Vince, we

28:37

got this thing like going to the

28:39

moon right now, like we're we're unstoppable,

28:42

Like you can't do something like that, brother, Or

28:45

is this just gonna be a continued fraternity of

28:47

cover ups like we heard he did with

28:49

the Jimmy Snooker murder, like we heard he you

28:51

know, he tried to basically do with other

28:53

incidents over time, where you just try to

28:55

push it under the rug. It

28:57

was such a culture of keep things huh

29:00

hush. Was this I'm doing it in

29:02

the limo so nobody sees it.

29:07

Well, I feel like if she went

29:10

if this happened for real, right,

29:12

because again it's he said she

29:14

said.

29:15

Right, if she's.

29:19

A victim and she goes

29:21

to a top guy and

29:23

you think that top guy can't be replaced.

29:27

Right, and he's fearful if he has that,

29:30

That's.

29:30

What I'm saying, Like, would that would that

29:32

guy actually go to bat for

29:34

a referee, right and

29:36

go up to Vince and be like, oh, you know that

29:39

was the wrong thing to do. One hundred

29:41

percent. No, they're not going to lose their push.

29:44

This chick's on her own, Yeah

29:46

she is. You know, I hate

29:49

to say it, but she kind of made her bed and now

29:51

she has the lie in it.

29:53

None of that was deserving. If what happened

29:56

happened, it

29:58

shouldn't have happened, and she's

30:00

a victim one hundred percent. But why

30:02

did she get in that limousine? What

30:05

how was she lured into the limits?

30:07

Did she ever say it? Did

30:09

she tell her what?

30:12

Yeah?

30:12

Like, what made her get in a limousine?

30:14

Moves?

30:15

Man, I don't

30:17

know.

30:18

Why couldn't they discuss something on the phone. I

30:20

know, of

30:24

course he had an ulterior moment. What's

30:26

in her head? What is she thinking?

30:32

And was there any weird conduct

30:34

that led up to that moment? Was

30:37

there any kind of lewde gestures

30:40

or passes being made, Because

30:44

you don't just break the ice with assaulting

30:46

someone, with rosing someone that you

30:49

know have oral sex and then penetrate

30:51

you or you know that

30:53

that's not your first move, and if it is, then

30:55

well, but I would

30:57

think this would be something that he was probably

31:00

feeling out, tried to build up gradually.

31:02

Did she not see signs? Was

31:05

there not trs? What don't?

31:09

I don't know, man, It's

31:11

just weird. Again.

31:14

I am so thankful and so blessed

31:17

that I don't have to deal with this

31:19

bullshit from men because

31:22

I'm my own boss, you

31:25

know what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't have to worry

31:27

about that kind of stuff. I worry about it for my

31:29

kids obviously, when they're

31:32

old enough, you know, and I'll teach them like nothing

31:35

is worth you

31:37

know, degrading yourself for or

31:39

putting yourself at harm's way, in harm's

31:42

way like no, you get the hell out

31:44

of there. You tell them no, and you get the hell

31:46

out of there. Don't

31:48

put yourself in that type of position. If it feels

31:50

creepy, it is creepy. Get

31:54

out.

31:56

It's incredible.

31:57

Now this next one, I

31:59

want to ask you a question. When did you go When did

32:01

you re sign or when did you sign your

32:03

contract? Initially two thousand and six.

32:05

Well, you remember what month?

32:10

I don't know, maybe either I

32:14

don't know, December of the previous

32:17

year or January, January something

32:20

like that.

32:20

One night Stand was June two thousand and

32:22

five.

32:23

I did that show that that was a that

32:25

was like a one.

32:26

That was a one off, right, yeah, okay,

32:28

So then that makes sense if you sign in

32:31

December two thousand and five and then

32:33

you stay through mid two thousand and six.

32:36

No, no, no, I didn't sign in two thousand

32:38

and five. I did

32:40

one night stand. It was a one night deal.

32:43

Okay, got the call at the end of the

32:45

year, we're bringing these.

32:46

Okay, God, okay, got it. You didn't sign

32:48

so I.

32:48

Either I know I was done

32:50

before Halloween because I didn't do the

32:53

costume contest with the girls,

32:55

got it.

32:56

Okay, I know what was done before.

32:57

October, so it had to be early

33:00

two thousand and six when I signed

33:02

all right and started.

33:03

So this story is

33:05

from January of two

33:07

thousand and six. Okay,

33:10

So I remember this very

33:13

vividly. And again it's a miracle

33:16

he survived this one. And I don't know how,

33:18

because maybe if the Internet was a little stronger

33:21

how it is now, and you have your people who are

33:23

their independent sleuth investigators

33:25

going all in on every aspect

33:27

of an article it's released,

33:30

maybe it would be I don't

33:32

know how he survives this one. And this is the

33:34

Tanning Salon incident. Do you

33:36

recall this as a story back in

33:38

two thousand and six?

33:39

No, And I don't recall anybody

33:41

speaking about it when I was there. Depending

33:45

on what month this happened, I mean,

33:47

it might have been blown over by the time I was on

33:50

the road with them. It's January January,

33:52

yeah, so I know this was

33:54

long gone when I signed.

33:57

Well, he walked into a of

34:00

Tanning Salon for his little

34:03

tan there in Boca Raton, Florida.

34:06

Then he, I guess he needed to freshen up, which, if

34:08

you remember Vince mc mann in two thousand and six,

34:10

that m effort was tan.

34:12

As can be.

34:14

And he again, if

34:16

you refer yourself back to the Janelle

34:18

Grant filings, kind

34:20

of pulled the same moves that he did in

34:22

those filings.

34:23

In the tanning salon.

34:25

With the tanning salon Clark, who

34:27

was administering his tan

34:31

session, I don't know how I've never gotten a.

34:33

Tan session done. I'm naturally rosie.

34:35

I don't need a tan, so

34:38

I don't need I don't need it, right, I get a nice based

34:41

on my arms. So what happened

34:43

in this instance was behind

34:45

the closed door, he started

34:48

to show pictures to

34:50

well, he asked for his picture to be taken, and

34:53

then he started to show pictures to the

34:56

attendant of his half

34:59

nude and new a self

35:02

to the attendant to

35:05

kind of gauge.

35:05

What was going on.

35:06

She said it was inappropriate, you know, please stop.

35:09

And when she closed the door to

35:12

start the session, he

35:14

started to get aggressive.

35:16

He started to try to, you know,

35:19

move his hands to her

35:21

behind and then up her body and

35:23

then under her shirt and you

35:26

know, she pushed them off and then ultimately filed

35:28

the police report against them.

35:30

And I believe what did they ended

35:32

up what did they classify this

35:34

one as?

35:36

This? Was they

35:40

found probable cause? What

35:42

did they end up calling this? I

35:45

think that was it. Maybe it was just the police report.

35:47

I don't know if he was officially charged with anything

35:50

for this one, but this

35:53

was reported in the dirt sheets. This

35:55

one was literally

35:57

shared right after it happened.

36:00

And this is.

36:02

Vince McMahon and a tanning salon and a retail

36:04

strip mall groping a tanning

36:06

booth attendant.

36:08

The creepiest thing out of this article. It

36:10

says, uh, there was a

36:12

witness and it says the witness

36:14

at it. He recalled McMahon staring down

36:17

he and the accuser from his car in the

36:19

parking lot for forty five minutes until

36:21

the police arrived. So

36:24

if that's true, that's weird. But

36:27

the way I used to

36:29

tan frequently in

36:32

ECW, I've since stopped because

36:34

it's horrible for your skin. If I do anything, I'll

36:36

do a spray tan right when

36:39

you go to these tanning salons. And I'm not saying

36:41

that what the girl said was wrong, but

36:44

if he's laying in a

36:46

bed, let's say, okay

36:51

again, was he getting a sprit haan?

36:54

Is he laying in a bed? Or is he doing a

36:56

stand up? A sprat haan.

36:59

The attendant stays in the room with you

37:02

and you have to stand there and

37:04

you have to be in like a G string

37:07

and the women can go bear breasted. If you want your

37:09

you know, your breast to be sprayed,

37:12

it's fine, but you should

37:14

be in a G string. And sometimes

37:16

they give you the underwear to wear if you don't want

37:18

a dirty yours right. If you go

37:20

in a tanning bed, they

37:22

will usually say to you, okay, booth

37:25

number two, do you know how to use

37:27

the bed? You might say

37:29

no, I'm not sure, and they'll come in

37:31

with you. They will not shut the door

37:34

behind them, but they'll come in with you and they'll

37:36

say all you have to do is push this button and then

37:38

they leave and the door is closed.

37:40

Okay. If it's a stand up, there's

37:44

room for one person in the stand up,

37:46

So you go in, you hit that thing

37:48

and you're just you hit the button and you're just standing

37:50

there for twenty minutes or whatever the time

37:53

is. You said the

37:55

door was shut and he began to

37:57

grope her. So was

37:59

he getting a spray to hand? The

38:02

see to me if I'm a judge and stuff,

38:04

these little facts

38:07

make perfect sense to

38:09

the story

38:11

because why was the door Why was she in the

38:13

room when the door was shut, Unless he was getting

38:16

a spray hand. People

38:18

might think I'm nitpicking.

38:19

No, that's a pivotal point to the story.

38:21

We have to think about this kind of stuff.

38:24

She would be in the room with him, with him

38:26

almost naked, if she was

38:28

doing that sprayed hand, if he was

38:30

tanning on his own, she wanted to shut the door

38:32

behind her, there's no reason to so

38:35

how did he grope her?

38:38

Not saying she's a liar? And

38:41

I like the way that Stephanie chimes

38:43

in, Yes he's a Tanzabar regular. Real,

38:49

Thanks kid, thanks for adding to my misery,

38:51

you know what I mean. But think

38:53

about that. I'd be a hell of

38:55

a investigator because

38:58

these are just little points that these worries

39:00

aren't picking up.

39:02

You know, it just refers to her as booth attendant.

39:04

It doesn't say spray or no.

39:08

And I know because I went for years

39:10

and years and years. They never shut

39:12

the door behind you. If you're laying in a bed,

39:14

and if you're in a capsule, which is the

39:17

stands up one or whatever

39:19

they're called, there's no room for two people.

39:21

So when you shut that door, it's only you in there.

39:24

Like Vince couldn't have gotten in the in

39:26

the thing with the girl. He would

39:28

only be in there, you know what I mean. But

39:31

the room that you get the spray's hand in, Now

39:33

she shut the door and Vince's in there, then I can

39:35

understand maybe that so maybe he got a sprays

39:38

hand. I don't know.

39:40

I'm just nitpicking here.

39:42

I'm just you know, for the case, I'm

39:45

just wondering, why was the door shut, you

39:48

know what I mean.

39:49

Yep, there's no way he.

39:51

Fondled her in the lobby because

39:55

then there's you know, there's usually a big

39:57

window or something

39:59

that people could see and or there might be people

40:01

in the lobby waiting for their turn. So that he didn't

40:03

do all this shit in the lobby.

40:05

Maybe he said I need to know how to use

40:07

the machine, or I know how to You don't.

40:09

Shut the door. They never shut

40:11

the door behind them.

40:12

That's a private maybe because it's Vince McMahon,

40:14

he wanted he wanted to be.

40:16

He must shut the door and show me where it

40:18

is.

40:19

Yeah, maybe that's what Maybe he did something like

40:21

that. But then she wanted he wanted a picture

40:23

taken of himself. But now remember this is two

40:25

thousand and six, so we're

40:27

not taking selfies of her.

40:30

So he's giving her can

40:32

you take a picture of me? Maybe that's why the door

40:34

was closed, right, you take picture

40:37

of me. She takes a picture, and then he goes, I have to send

40:39

it to my girlfriend in New York. A ha, right,

40:42

So he takes she takes

40:44

a picture. Then he says, hey, you want

40:46

to see these pictures, and he shows

40:48

the naked and the half naked whatever.

40:51

That's when he goes in for the move and

40:53

he tries to oh, that's

40:55

when I say, sir, But

40:58

she did.

40:58

She's like no, thank you, and pushed them

41:00

off, like legit pushed him.

41:03

And he kept coming. He kept

41:05

he kept going, and.

41:08

She ultimately got out obviously,

41:10

you know, called the police and

41:13

sat.

41:14

In his car. You know, he

41:16

fled.

41:16

He stayed, he stayed in tand

41:20

but.

41:21

You know, they when they reached the newspapers

41:24

who reported reached Linda for comments.

41:26

She called the allegations totally

41:28

bizarre. Yeah, are

41:31

they Linda?

41:32

Are they? Come on?

41:34

Now?

41:34

You know that's she's she's

41:36

such an ex. Whoever ends up getting the Linda

41:39

McMahon interview.

41:40

I'm just thinking the same thing.

41:42

Man is gonna have like

41:44

the treasure trove of just quotes,

41:46

and it's gonna everything we want to know.

41:48

Do you think that will happen?

41:50

I don't. I really don't.

41:52

I would love for it to happen, but

41:55

I mean, I gotta think there's gotta be something

41:57

that Linda was able to contain

42:00

in him for X number of years

42:02

that kept him on this

42:05

like this level plane that

42:08

they obviously split. I don't they obviously

42:10

split and this is two thousand and six.

42:12

You think it was You think it was money.

42:14

Money had

42:16

to have been money. What

42:20

woman would tolerate all

42:23

of this? It's

42:25

not just one story. And

42:30

I know it's like for better or for worse,

42:33

but God doesn't get any worse.

42:36

It's like for worse or for worser.

42:38

What I mean really like unbelievable

42:42

and maybe you know, maybe she truly loved

42:44

him, but God, I have to go with

42:47

money,

42:49

you know.

42:54

Yeah, Well, she ultimately wanted to run for office. He

42:56

bankrolled that, you know, so maybe that was

42:58

the the deal. Like, look, I'll keep my

43:00

mouth shift forever. I want to run for Senate

43:03

in Connecticut. Just bankroll that and I'll shut up.

43:05

Oh my god, Hey, I'm I'm used

43:07

to paying people off pals, so I'll take care of

43:09

that.

43:10

Your thing is clicking uncontrollably. Be careful,

43:13

it's clicking against your necklace. Oh

43:17

yeah, really bad? Keeps

43:19

clicking?

43:20

Right?

43:21

Well okay, yeah,

43:24

I mean that's the only thing that I can think

43:27

of. She because

43:29

man, you know, you hear one thing,

43:32

but she's been through the mill really

43:35

standing by him, supporting him,

43:38

and you know, again,

43:40

we don't know what's true and what's not true. But

43:43

all I have to say is poor Linda.

43:48

It's you know, the whole family now. And obviously

43:50

Shane has completely removed himself, but

43:52

now you know, we're seeing Stephanie

43:55

has also distanced herself from

43:57

ever everything related.

44:00

Well she should after her name was brought

44:02

up in the lawsuit with Janelle.

44:04

Right, you don't wanna she's

44:07

under fire now. You don't want to make any

44:09

comments that are wrong or can be taken

44:11

the wrong way. Yeah, go away,

44:15

be quiet. Let this simmer down

44:17

for a while. This

44:20

is heavy stuff. I

44:25

mean, I this

44:29

family is just beyond wack

44:31

adoodle. It's just unbelievable

44:35

the amount of scandals

44:39

and wrongdoings that they've been accused

44:41

of. It's crazy, absolutely

44:45

crazy. And that's basically

44:47

why we just wanted to take a couple episodes

44:50

because again, you guys love Vince

44:52

McMahon and love

44:54

hearing about Vince McMahon, I should say, and

44:57

there are so many

44:59

stories out there, and it's it's just mind

45:01

blowing, absolutely

45:04

mind blowing.

45:05

So you know, and I gotta

45:07

say, like, I still sit and I'll watch the

45:10

old clips, and

45:12

I'll still watch the stuff from the nineties,

45:15

and I'll still watch Vince at

45:17

his mister McMahon peak.

45:20

Yeah, and I and I watch him, and.

45:21

I go, what

45:24

was he thinking at that point in time? Where

45:26

was his mind focused on? Was he focused

45:29

on we got to get through this television

45:32

and we're setting all time records money

45:34

wise and ratings wise,

45:37

or was it, oh my god,

45:39

I have to go harass this

45:41

next attendant at blah blah blah,

45:43

or I have to do this. And that's it's

45:45

weird to watch certain things in him, but I can't

45:48

not watch the old footage

45:50

that.

45:51

He was a part of because I love that

45:53

era.

45:54

I can't watch new wrestling. I love

45:56

the old stuff. You know, it's it's

45:58

hard, it's it's hard. It's a weird fine

46:00

line to walk.

46:01

Here's where you

46:04

have to think about it this way. It goes

46:06

back to like the Chris Benoah scandal,

46:09

right, people. The argument

46:11

is, people say how great of

46:13

a worker Chris ben Waugh

46:16

was, and one hundred percent he was

46:18

one of the best ever. But

46:20

the circumstances that happened with

46:23

Nancy and his son tarnish

46:27

that view of him. And

46:29

now it's like, I hate

46:32

him so much for what he did to his family.

46:34

But the argument is, does that take away

46:36

from him being the best that there was in

46:38

the business, you know

46:40

what I mean. It's like the same

46:42

with Vince McMahon when he

46:45

was on television. There was nobody

46:47

better than him. That character, Vince McMahon

46:49

or mister McMahon, that was

46:52

one of the best things ever. Entertaining

46:55

could be hysterical at times, could

46:58

be disgusting at

47:00

times, but in your mind you're saying, Oh, it's

47:02

just wrestling, it's just the

47:04

work. We're just being entertained,

47:07

so you laugh it off. But then you

47:09

hear all these stories and you're

47:11

just like, well, this angle

47:14

is kind of real life now it kind of makes

47:16

sense to me. Does that tarnish

47:18

you loving the Vince McMahon character

47:21

because he's such a douchebag

47:24

so to speak, allegedly in

47:26

real life? You

47:28

know what I mean? Like, I'm the type

47:30

of person that could separate

47:33

the two. I can admit Chrispin

47:35

while I was a great worker, but what he

47:37

did in real life is disgusting.

47:40

Same with Vince McMahon, arguably

47:43

one of the best characters that WWF

47:46

or WWE ever created. But

47:50

does that take away from me

47:53

hating him for the man that he was behind the

47:55

scenes. I have a different

47:58

opinion of both. Love them

48:00

on television, don't like hearing about the scandals

48:02

behind the scenes.

48:04

You know what I mean?

48:05

You're either the type of person who disowned

48:07

somebody because they're just a creep in real

48:09

life and you don't care what they've accomplished

48:12

or what they've given to the particular sport

48:15

or or you know, profession

48:17

that they're in. Or you could separate

48:19

the two, and I could separate

48:21

the two. You know,

48:24

you know, I don't know where you stand.

48:26

But a lot I can definitely do it.

48:28

It's just like.

48:30

A lot of people can't separate it. And you

48:33

know, it does not take away

48:36

you being a horrible person, doesn't take

48:38

away of the talent that you had.

48:42

And maybe I'll be crucified for saying that, but

48:44

that's what I believe.

48:45

Yeah, I never went out of my way to watch

48:47

a Chris Ban wamatch period, so it

48:49

didn't really affect my.

48:53

W and how great he was,

48:56

you know what I mean, him and Dean

48:58

and Eddie classics, right,

49:01

but that that what he did was so

49:03

despicable, but it doesn't take away

49:05

from him being a great wrestler. It

49:08

just proves that he's a shitty human being

49:11

who had problem. Now I know he had the CTE

49:13

and all that kind of stuff, but still it's

49:16

it's like, you know, people

49:18

have a problem separating the two.

49:22

And you know, Jimmy,

49:28

Yeah, for me, Vince will always be that

49:30

mesmerizing character and I loved

49:32

watching him.

49:33

The shrut when he would come to the

49:36

was so obnoxious, but

49:38

it was such a heal move and it was perfect.

49:41

I can still look back and say, man,

49:43

he was a really good performer,

49:47

But is he a shitty human

49:49

being? If all this stuff is true?

49:51

Yeah, he is if

49:53

if true. So again,

49:57

just my two cents. You might have a different

49:59

outlook than me, and that's okay because

50:01

you know we will never always

50:04

agree correct.

50:07

So I'm just with Jimmy Snooker

50:09

is where I just want to end that point because he's

50:11

one of the first guys that I remember ever

50:14

catching the you know, my eye growing

50:16

up. Am I supposed to wipe

50:19

that memory from my mind because of

50:21

the things that he did that everybody

50:24

knew of forever, but it

50:26

came to light years later.

50:28

Did it make it right or wrong? No, it's wrong.

50:30

It's not a right way. It's wrong. But

50:33

the Jimmy Snooker character I watched on TV

50:36

I loved.

50:37

Yeah, and that I can't take that

50:39

away from the despicable guy

50:42

he was for things he did. But

50:45

you know, when I met Jimmy snook in the handful of times

50:47

he was nice to me.

50:48

And that's the memory I have. Yeah,

50:50

he was things, bad things he did or

50:53

bad things he did.

50:55

Other memories are different memories, So it's

50:58

it's all subjective. It's all based on

51:00

opinion. I have one more follow

51:02

up on the tanning salon.

51:04

I found an article that had a little bit extra

51:07

detail.

51:08

Oh, they added this is the final

51:10

quote, says she asked, and this is what they

51:12

said. This was added later this detail.

51:14

She asked him to stop, she

51:16

said. Later after the tanning

51:19

session, he followed her

51:21

back into the suite when she went

51:23

to clean up. Uh huh, he

51:25

closed the door and started forcibly

51:28

kissing her. She said

51:31

that it ended when she pushed

51:33

him off as he tried to pull

51:35

her shirt off.

51:37

Oh my god, so he just went

51:39

in.

51:40

Yeah, well that makes

51:43

sense with the door closing then, because

51:45

anybody who tians knows you don't

51:47

shut that door when the attendant is in the room.

51:50

I mean you're about to strip your clothes off,

51:53

you know. So they come

51:55

in. There's usually a tail and the little

51:57

glasses gimmicks for your eyes, and

52:01

that door never shuts. So okay,

52:04

that makes perfect sense. Then there

52:07

you go.

52:09

Picture with the little glasses now on the

52:12

little tanning glasses.

52:13

Yeah, laying there completely naked

52:16

and always glory perfect.

52:20

I don't know, man, if

52:22

if you're interested, there there are more that

52:24

we didn't touch base on, but we just picked out

52:26

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52:28

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52:32

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