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i'm
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margaret brennan in washington
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and this week on face, the in a some
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good news for president biden and the
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democrats on the economic front, but
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will it be enough to help them in the
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november midterm elections? finally
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, from cove it isolation president
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biden last week has been filled
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with surprise it's including a july
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jobs report with double the number of expected
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joss joss now
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at half century love
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equals to what it was free was
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his face as his face long
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there is unity among senate
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democrats when it comes to supporting
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a long stalled zyl designed
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to long fight climate change health
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care costs fight raise taxes on
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corporations but there
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are more challenges ahead for mr biden
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including a national public health crisis
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with rapidly spreading monkey pox cases
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and new fact blocks from the chinese
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fallen speaker pelosi trip to taiwan
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finally campaign twenty two
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is shaping up as taiwan finally unusual
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was will look the trump and
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as influencing republican primary candidates
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and the tactics are using
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the morning and welcome the faith in a
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sense as we come on the air the
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senate is poised to make the biggest
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to fight global warming and history
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with the hopes of reducing carbon emissions
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forty percent by twenty thirty there's
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a long stalled bill will now expand
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credits for the manufacture and purchase
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of electric vehicles fund rebates
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for energy efficient appliances allocate
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money
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the fight drought in western states
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and help vulnerable communities
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by climate change the bill
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also cut health care costs by lowering pre
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and and extending subsidies and
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it taps out of pocket medicare drug
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costs for seniors at two thousand
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dollars a year to pay
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for all of that spending the
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bill calls for a fifteen percent
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corporate minimum tax on companies that
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book and com of more than billion
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dollars a year and will provide
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money for the i r s to crack
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down on tax enforcement with
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the senate split fifty split fifty the
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parties vice president com ela harris
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expected to break the tie which
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give democrats a much needed boost
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had it in to the november midterm elections
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has agreed to and we go now capitol
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hill and florida sen rick who
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is in between votes on the senate floor
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he's also the head of the republican senate campaign
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committee working to retake control of
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the senate senator scott good
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morning i know you have been up all
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night appreciate you joining this
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the bunker i hope i'm co here
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why are you
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know it's no matter what it does not
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look like there's any way to stop what
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is expected to be very big win here for
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for democrats and i know you're
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opposed to it but i want to press you on
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that isn't expanding medicare
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access good for a state like yours
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which has more residents
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are reliant on the affordable care act
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than any other state and republicans
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like reducing the deficit the cbs
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as this will reduce it for by a one hundred
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billion over the next in
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there some good stuff in here for you to
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margaret here's where look at it just for our right
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now this bill actually ah to be called the war
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on seniors asked me
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this me this war on medicare you look at this this
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is a hundred and eighty billion dollar
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cut in medicare so what's
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gonna happen is no physically
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a kite and there's could be seniors the don't get
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life saving drugs because refinancing
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and sneeze or not the have nots assembly
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of losing benefits that you see you know
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that target is
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to ready billion dollars that would have been spent it
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in to stay to be spent is not going to spent now
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and the drug companies that would be doing more research
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or not to they will spend the money on research that
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will be saving drugs that seniors will
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not get on top of that mean
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they're going to raise taxes by over seven hundred billion
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dollars and was remember something still end
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up paying the taxes shareholders pay the
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taxes low income for the employees pay the
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taxes less investment pay the taxes
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so this seven hundred billion dollars is actually going
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to hurt the economy and then while prices
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are two dollars more than they were when
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joe biden took office there's an excise
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tax on guy so why would you
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are you know when a recession why would
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you be cut from increasing the
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cost the government ring creases hanson
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so it did the committee for
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responsible federal budget called your claim
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that you just reiterated in
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, of medicare spending completely misleading
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congressional budget office estimates that
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just about one percent the drugs would be affected
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by the changes their on
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drugs development
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so what will have you ever wonder said way
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that way but what if is your grandmother is
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not one percent important if
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there's if if it impacts in packs
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a life saving drugs we could
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do now we shouldn't be we
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should be cutting medicare like this i don't believe
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it and and the way we we should
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be raising taxes he ever
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but especially in a recession and why
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would we be raising the taxes on
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, right now wants to dollars above what it
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was when joe biden took office this is gonna
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continue to drive us into a
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further a bigger recession than we are little
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where we are rebels labor participation
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rates low wages as samples inflation
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to course and negate gdp mean
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we this mean we pushed us and
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the these plants are pushing this into a recession
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so i think we've got it because stop raising
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taxes we gotta make it easier for businesses
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to build their businesses compete and will get more
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jobs
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what
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now we just had that stellar july jobs
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and but going to dig into the specifics
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of that ahead with economists mary daly
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let me talk to you but the politics of all of this
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republicans had been hoping to ride that
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high inflation we're and is this historic
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high and president biden is
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low approval ratings to a win
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in november but president
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and democrats as had a really good
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streets here gas prices are
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down or you have this massive
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spending bill going through
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these are are of big wins for
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democrats the present just authorize
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it straight to take out the leader of al qaeda
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isn't going to get harder
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for republicans to get the edge that
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you are trying
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the manufacturer here
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the meals that sounds
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good right by the sadness
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white high white house talking points below think
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about this and seventy percent of americans
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believe we're headed the wrong track bidens
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numbers are in the tank and
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, you look at all the democrats all
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the democrats rotting they have to be see their surrogates
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for biden and chuck schumer
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me they have to defend inflation
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high gas prices he
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owns the afghan withdraw and open
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are critical waste theory defunding theory police has
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for the if is saying because that's where the depicts as
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was it binds known for than that would
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that's basically what the democrats are known for
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known it's be look this electioneers
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can be as electioneers can year we have twenty one republicans
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up only democrats susan the democrats
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rot races but we have good kansas
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and i believe joe biden is going to or to her
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it'll be a hard year i want to play for you what
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republican leader mitch mcconnell told fox
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week
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then it's gonna be a very tight with
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a fifty cent his we have a fifty
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fifty nation and , think when
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the senate race smoke were
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like going to have a very very close senate
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still with either us
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up slightly or the democrats outside
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bad then why is it going to be
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so type or republican
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weldon first have we have we have very
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good candidates when the democrats are isn't good
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money ah so we've gotta be able get our
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and so you know we we to raise
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her money we to work i work
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hard you know we went through a lot of primaries are
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so but i believe over the i believe we're gonna win
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but it's going to beat this can be hard we had a razor we've
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got to work really hard or candidates have to work hard
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everybody's eyes go to help our candidates
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and i'm optimistic
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but you do agree is it it's going to
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be time that ripple didn't have that
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a faster a slice
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that
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i'm i'm very optimistic i would
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i but i'm unrealistic said you know
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you have to raise uma empresa raising money joe
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biden that is are key here and by
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the way this bill this not gonna democrats it's going
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to help republicans wait in taxes some
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her billion dollars cutting medicare six hundred
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eighty billion dollars raising gas taxes or
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have an eighty seven thousand more iris agency
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how irish health happy people
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are to have more iris agents author mean
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this mean this and this is not going to be popular around the
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country
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in a local radio interview
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in july you talked a lot about
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your your business as an executive
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and you said we should start electing people
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that we hire in
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georgia herschel walker republican
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senate candid it had lied
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about the number of children he has about
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his business dealings with his ex wife said
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he held a gun to her head and said i'm
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going to blow your a thing is brains
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out in arizona the candidate
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blake called the unit bomber and
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underrated thinker he
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said that al qaeda doesn't actually
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pose substantial threat to american
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mean i've got a list of candidates here
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who some and said some pretty
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troubling things would you
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hire these people the to work for
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you
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you'd to a person and but i'm not
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a window and it's of voters of those states or duets
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the bowser so states of and make a theory
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the how senate republicans and lead them
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to victory
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these are your candidates
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though
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marguerite has remember the it and the
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voters in arizona choose who they're going on there
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can invoke and what they're going to choose event
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shoes between like master and martelly
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martelly has voted to keep the border open
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his neighborhood from porn or security is
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voted for the tax increases he's waiting for cutting
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medicare you know his his motive
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with chuck schumer and with your biden busy
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the had percent the time or next at the same
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problem this election is gonna be about joe
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biden and so this
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elections going to be about all the bad things
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that have happened this happened this fact that we're going into recession
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the fact that you know inflation since nine
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percent the fact that gas prices are up to two
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dollars all these things that's what people look at us
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then there's the dairy queens or a or
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the republican candidate these
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are your candidate
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and about you hire these states the
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, they seats are going to decide if they're going to hire
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now i get a vote i get to vote in enough for
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them and that's how i think about by the
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voters those states choose indian
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states who they once as a choice between two
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people people to they're always look
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the by almost all these democrat
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nominees are but are are visible the t
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v don't bother way that will that will dot you know
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you don't know you know anyone
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in byron interview market arrive in more recent
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these say i would come as been red flags
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the hr their minds
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is biden is not campaign with
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anybody because he is he is
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he's toxic that's how the voters
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think that's why they say it's seventy two percent
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of who the economy's in the wrong track when happens
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people say i will take a serious look
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at somebody else our can
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you have a good tell me what they're gonna do and
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we're and make sure that everybody knows exactly
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who are for the democrats are assess what
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that's what could happen all across the country we're going to have
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races and we'll see what happens or
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the advising all of your candidates in these races
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to accept the outcome of the their
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election since so many of them are questioning
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still the outcome of the twenty twenty
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race
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wow
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organ remember that's exactly what happened to me
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bill nelson embark allies they didn't accept
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the upcoming election and they tried to illegally
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have some bowels after election
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day after i won by fifty seven thousand votes so
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election security is very important to me
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and i want to make sure we make sure we
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do everything can to make sure people know that
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the election is fair election were are
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were putting together teams which teams which to do and for in
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eighteen teams of lawyers and met
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volunteers to make sure these elections are
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for that accept the election
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our
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the integrity of these races that
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all your candidates are
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you're only going to have problem with them
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if they were
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well
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i'm i'm you know i'm one free and fair
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elections so i am going to work i work
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, to make sure we are these elections are fairer
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fairer already with and size the time so
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i am frustrated with what happened
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my race we had we spend millions of dollars
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to make sure we won we won election night and
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they try to count illegal ballots after election
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and that's wrong very
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way before let you go do you think that
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the us military should be deployed to defend
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taiwan if chai one and china make
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the move on it
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i think we've got to be very clear that we will defend taiwan
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we've gotta be very clear ah exactly what
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could happen china with exactly what sanctions
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are is gonna happen china if they invade taiwan
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i all american businesses need to understand that
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they're at risk right now if they're doing business their attic
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every american whenever they see a box this is
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made china the our cinemax were person to
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himself never buy another product made in china
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the holster about inflation their center but that's
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for another day we got to leave it there thank you for your
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time and i'll let you get back work their
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nationally back a minute so
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this is intelligence
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matters with former acting director
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of the cia my go morrell week
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eric edelman and respected voice on national
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security talks about the in ukraine and
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scenarios for the war might be had
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this may be of folks on taiwan
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will react and of the way ukrainians f
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and resists that might be kind of difficult
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in beijing are drawing from
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this are instantly she's in pain may be drawn
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to have you back you have been on this program
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warning for some time now that monkey
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pox was past the point
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of containment this week be fine administration
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acknowledges administration acknowledges national public health
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emergency they add into
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senior advisers to the white house to run
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point what difference does it make
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now can they catch up
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well look i think they can still catch
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up i think there's the potential to this back
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in the box but it's gonna be very difficult at
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point will continue and look for cases in the
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community of men who have sex with men is primarily
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spreading in that community but no
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question that spread outside that community
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at this point i think we need to start looking for tasers
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more broadly were looking for cases and next to
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me so we're finding them there but we need
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to start looking for cases in the broader community that
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means probably testing anyone who within
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a typical case of singles are
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in a typical case of herpes for
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monkey pox as i think we need to broaden
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testing and so far cdc been to
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make that recommendation i think of
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we're going to this and make sure that doesn't
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spread more broadly in a population we need to start
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testing more broadly we have the capacity to
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do it right now cdc has the capacity
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conduct about eighty thousand a week doing
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about eight thousand so they can broaden
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is substantially by changing the case definition
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and
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the many that more doctors be testing more patients
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looking for this infection in the community what
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the to your point about broader
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right in illinois a daycare worker
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tested positive for monkey pox and exposed
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children the sta are
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allowing those kids to
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be vaccinated parent
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got to send their kids back to be back to school
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and they be about this now
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look i don't think is something that people need
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to be generally worried about i think that the
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incidence of this and section in the broader community
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still very low so your your risk
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of coming into contact with monkey pox
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is exceedingly low outside of
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certain networks were you see a higher
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case rates but if we want to and
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we want to prevent this from becoming endemic virus
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we need to be looking more widely for in a worst
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case scenario is that we start testing
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more broadly and we don't find it and that
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would be reassuring but we should doing that we should
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also be testing wastewater monkey
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pox that something as city seats to
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turn on instant latest sign a look
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for monkey in waste what is the of spreading
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it's communities and locations locations
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where right now we don't think it's spreading but
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it could
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we don't know what we don't now at on vaccines
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we know there is a national shortage
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there are two doses of this vaccine
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that are required hhs
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in the us to a said on thursday that are
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looking added sparing
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approach to stretch out existing
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supply how does that work what work
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what what that mean
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right to this decision could come as
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early as this week and the emergency utah
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three authorization that they could issue is a
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slow is from the public health emergency that
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they declared service and be the first practical
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effect of that public health emergency what they
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would do is cut the dose by a fast
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so they only give one of the dose and
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instead of injecting and sub his sleigh
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so below the skin they to inject it
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in predominately into the skin so into
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the top layer the skin said things about
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it's has a huge get for for tuberculosis
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we used to get an injection under the skin
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that small wealth they injected
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fluid under the skin that's an intradermal
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infection we know that we inject certain
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things interested in that way it's very
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immunogenic you get a strong response
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nears a lot of data that up to a look that
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there was that see collected in the context
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of trying to prepare smallpox
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or potential outcome with smallpox with smallpox
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might be used as a bioterrorist weapons and
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how we would extend doses of the smallpox
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vaccine on what they learn no studies
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is transferable to this vaccine for monkey
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pox and so they still very assertive
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they can do they can generate a strong and been a logical
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response delivering this intradermal
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a and that would allow them to stretch out the doses
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of monkey pox vaccine they have by
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fi falls so instead of having about a hundred
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thousand doses they would somewhere between
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four and five million doses immediately
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this is essentially an experiment
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in real time a
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while
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we we've done it before i knew we did it for
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yellow fever we've done a free bowl of we've
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done is those sparing strategies in public
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health emergencies it's unfortunate we find ourselves
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in his position there's decisions that
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could have been made earlier where we'd have more doses
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available but this is a practical solution
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to a very immediate public health challenge
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i want to ask about kobe now a president
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biden has tested negative
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twice now he's out of isolation
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pfizer , packs lovat
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the drug that the president took
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i know on the border pfizer's we say the
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white house has just five to ten percent of
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cases have these rebounds
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but this but high profile case doctor
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felt she had a rebound to i'm
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does this indicate anything about how
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someone fares long term from kobe
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button how do we understand
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they're all of the good news is that the president feeling well
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my understanding is that he inexperience a new
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symptoms during the second bout
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of infectivity so he was
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testing positive written in fact mountains
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symptoms and that's a good sign i don't think that
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he's gonna have any long term implications
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because he had this second course of
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illness from from covert on we
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don't know but i think the presence going to do quite
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well given what we know about his case
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in the white house has been very transparent i'm
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you are seeing these cases of rebound you're right
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or so far the data seems to suggest
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it's about five percent of cases you
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also see rebound with the other drugs and you see
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it knee in the setting of natural infection being
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studied pfizer right now which
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as you mentioned i'm on the border of is talking to f
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d a about some additional stays on how to approach
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cases whether or not you recourse
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the therapy or extend the dose the the
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length of treatment and certain patients
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so we don't know how to approach this fully
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right now i'm but it's a small percentage
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of cases where you're seeing this phenomena
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the great cdc is expected to
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loosen covered guidelines for schools
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ah to favor this
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look i think of reflects the reality
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that more tis are have
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, exposed to this virus and not immune logically
20:50
naive we want to do more he keeps his in the classroom
20:53
arm and changing attitudes about kobe think
20:55
there's still ways we can keep to safe in the classrooms
20:57
remain vigilant and lift of
21:00
these restrictions that have caused have lotta
21:02
kids to have to miss school day so the test
21:04
to say strategies we've turned over
21:06
a lot of in sections are asymptomatic and force
21:08
kids out of the classroom acquired
21:10
senators who are exposed to covert i think
21:12
they can lift those things at this point
21:15
that to be were cdc is heading ombre
21:17
still remain vigilant for example notifying
21:19
parents when is a contacts appearance can keep
21:21
appearance eye on their children get them tested or
21:23
a sec
21:23
gottlieb will be watching that thank
21:26
you the turnout in the city autonomy
21:28
and the present in francisco federal reserve
21:30
bank mary daly good morning to you
21:34
the morning at the san francisco said
21:36
said fiscal spending during the entirety
21:39
of the pandemic all that congressional
21:41
funding contributed three
21:43
percent three percent height
21:45
in inflation do expect the congressional build
21:48
it's about to pass to add
21:50
to inflation as well
21:53
let's remember that during the time
21:55
that
21:55
was this fiscal relief during the pandemic
21:58
there was also monetary policy relief
21:59
and those were things necessary to get us
22:02
through the pandemic so that's why that
22:04
was an important component in history we
22:06
the judge whether was too much or too little but
22:08
right now that's where that was and my staff
22:10
of evaluate that when it looked forward
22:13
there are so many things going on in the economy
22:15
right now both domestically and globally
22:18
and we are struggling with high inflation but
22:20
the fed is committed to bringing that down and
22:23
we're looking at not only things
22:25
that congress passes but what happens
22:27
across the entire world
22:30
so do you think there's the well we'll
22:32
add to inflation has inflation
22:34
people can you say that you
22:37
know i really can't comment on pending legislation
22:39
it's really hard to tell because all the details
22:42
haven't been worked out yet and or the
22:44
timeframe in which those things will take place
22:46
so right now i we're the most important
22:48
they margaret is that is too high and
22:50
the labor market is strong the global economy
22:53
is struggling with ongoing high inflation
22:56
and that's what i'm focused on your
22:58
a labour economists we have this surprisingly
23:01
strong jobs number on friday
23:04
why was it's surprising
23:06
that was it that economists
23:08
miss hear what was your take away
23:12
it was super interesting i you know it did surprise
23:14
everyone who tries to figure out exactly
23:16
what the number will be and we were your
23:18
number projections were well off but
23:21
you know freshly if you're out in the communities
23:23
if you're you're traveling anywhere you're
23:25
you're just going in your community i
23:27
don't think the consumers are workers or
23:29
businesses were that surprised there's help wanted
23:31
signs all over the place people who can find
23:34
multiple jobs if they want them the
23:36
search times for jobs aren't long
23:38
so i think the labor market is continuing
23:40
to deliver it just tells me that people
23:42
want to work and that people want
23:44
to hire the the universal
23:46
truth is that inflation's too high but does
23:49
it still does it
23:51
indicate that recession is not
23:53
we are aware we're going
23:56
you're on the economy you don't feel
23:58
like you're in a recession that's the bottom
24:01
the most important risk out there is inflation
24:04
and and i think the job market just confirms that
24:06
okay we're going to take a break and come right back with you
24:08
marry daily stay with us we have more
24:10
question isn't
24:13
, out with the major garrett mark
24:15
leibovich are special guest the book thank you
24:17
for your servitude what is your book about people
24:19
think it's a trump of it wound up becoming about
24:21
what's happened there hum of them pardon i wanted to
24:23
focus on people who knew better republican
24:25
senators will privately tell us nonsense
24:29
nonsense vs sleep
24:31
, the take this you can and then when the camera comes
24:33
on all hail mister trump for more from this week's
24:35
conversation follow the take out with
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24:43
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24:51
the lot more faith in a sin including more
24:53
mary daly
25:05
the apprentice dope federal reserve bank mary
25:07
daly and in
25:09
my job number on friday we also saw
25:11
that would wages rose they're
25:14
not rising as quickly as inflation
25:16
is how concerned argue that
25:18
that shows inflation is really becoming
25:21
embedded in the economy in
25:23
a way that is going to for sure
25:25
your colleagues at sad to continue to have to
25:27
hike rates
25:30
you know i don't see inflation is embedded
25:32
in the economy those kinds of things the would
25:34
worry about just not be to try easily
25:37
what i see supply and demand
25:39
or just unbalanced about fifty percent
25:41
by my own staffs estimates of the excess
25:43
inflation we see his village to demand the other
25:45
fifty to supply the said
25:48
is well positioned to bring down
25:50
we already see the cooling forming in
25:53
the housing market in investment
25:55
so i do see signs that the economy's
25:57
cooling he just has going to take some
25:59
time for the interest rate adjustments we've made
26:02
to your way through and we're far
26:04
from done yet that's the the promise to
26:06
the american people we're far from done we're committed
26:08
to bringing inflation down and will to
26:11
work until their job is fully done
26:13
so would still be to raise rates
26:15
in september by half a percent
26:20
absolutely and you will need to be data
26:22
depended a could we need to leave our minds
26:24
open we have two more inflation reports
26:26
coming out another jobs report we continue
26:29
to collect all the information from the context
26:31
we talked for you to see how this is working
26:33
it's way through the economy but you mentioned
26:35
you know wage growth of little bit about five
26:38
percent inflation last printed
26:40
nine one percent americans are losing
26:42
ground every day so the focus has
26:44
to be on bringing inflation down one
26:46
is a saying the same tank controls deal
26:48
local rest how concerned are you
26:50
what is happening in the taiwan
26:53
strait right now
26:56
well there's so much going on globally
26:58
and i think that's really something that we
27:00
need to think about it's just getting
27:02
the cove it making sure the new variant
27:04
don't
27:05
real economic activity we have central
27:07
banks across the globe raising interest
27:09
rates detritus bridal their own inflation
27:11
and we have ongoing development to take
27:14
place in geopolitically or just more
27:16
generally of among countries and
27:18
all of those things the word new claim all
27:20
of those things street headwinds if
27:22
you will the us economy and we're going to have
27:24
to lean against those headwinds for growth
27:26
while we bridal inflation such
27:29
as it's work cut out and i know we'll be talking
27:31
again thank you very mary daly
27:35
i'm going to get most dramatic show
27:37
of military force in decades
27:40
with four days of war games off
27:42
the coast of taiwan all
27:44
in response to speaker pelosi leading
27:46
a congressional delegations to the self
27:48
govern island last week congressmen
27:51
gregory meeks chairman of the house foreign
27:53
affairs committee was on that trip the morning
27:55
good morning good to be with you
27:57
will you have been globe by
27:59
him then you'll soon be back in washington
28:01
to vote on this big spending
28:04
bill a it is when
28:07
potentially but it's a tenth of the
28:09
size of the president's original
28:11
ask is what's about to
28:13
pass and this in
28:15
gas prices enough to
28:17
help democrats win democrats win
28:21
there's no question this is a big and important
28:24
bill
28:24
it reduces inflation
28:26
make that the weekend now
28:28
reduce drug
28:30
two
28:31
it helps i'm fighting climate change
28:34
and and we will be moving
28:37
forward that goes on top of
28:39
wins already made in a bipartisan
28:41
manner doing this congress
28:44
like
28:45
the party wins
28:46
the infrastructure
28:48
gun control get in
28:50
size and
28:52
pack explore the veterans
28:54
select committee it's the
28:56
first black woman elected
28:58
have a a to b b supreme
29:00
court so yes this is a
29:03
a icing the a
29:05
moving forward of democratic achievements
29:08
a bipartisan way
29:09
in this election year
29:11
but despite all of what you
29:13
just laid out laid know you know
29:15
that many poles those from cb the
29:17
project that republicans will win the majority
29:20
in house can you were versa
29:24
oh absolutely i said that the conversations
29:26
as we're entering the
29:28
push of months of september and october look
29:31
we had an all time low unemployment
29:33
rate and we a court that
29:36
is regressive
29:37
and try to take away
29:39
a woman's right to choose were fighting and
29:41
standing for that
29:42
to your trip to taiwan we have seen
29:44
these dramatic chinese
29:47
war games in response to
29:49
this visit china cut off some
29:51
the diplomatic ties with the united states
29:53
to protest the fact that you went there
29:55
to taipei with speaker pelosi into
29:58
this trip backfire the undermining
30:01
someone the by an administration priorities
30:04
that at all you know clearly are
30:06
the bad ministrations his presence
30:09
banned by increasing economic
30:11
ties there is something the shows that the
30:13
region is very important in
30:16
president biden understand pop being a
30:18
private private member of the senate the
30:21
know the difference between executive branch
30:23
in legislative branch what
30:25
we have to do at this time because there's very
30:27
clearly it's very clearly a tense moment
30:29
of the was right and that's why it's very
30:32
important of that all sides
30:34
respect the status quo with we where they
30:36
had don't resort to for
30:39
change things and is just as important
30:41
the united states we doubled our economic
30:43
cultural if security cooperation with the
30:45
was and face of beijing's aggressive
30:48
so this was a very appropriate
30:50
trip the time for the region
30:52
i think that when we taught to the taiwanese
30:55
they will appreciative of us being
30:57
there you should have seen over to
30:59
what and fifty thousand taiwanese
31:01
practice quite flying in the
31:04
largest building and taiwan big
31:06
sign saying we love you nancy pelosi
31:09
people lining the streets or
31:11
when we were robbing to our hotel
31:14
so clearly the taiwanese we're very happy
31:16
they are you we
31:18
were all about allies all of our partners
31:21
and friends in the reasons and other nations that
31:23
we visited was very happy
31:25
that we there ever been signature
31:28
the area they cut off climate change
31:30
saucer the united states they cut other
31:32
cooperation on and in fact
31:34
they just said this is the one issue that the us
31:36
and china to most powerful countries in the
31:38
world could come into conflict with
31:40
aging said a visit by the third highest
31:43
ranking official the us government on a military
31:45
aircraft was provocative and
31:48
sends a strong signal the us
31:50
is on taiwan side is the us
31:52
on high one
31:54
we did nothing that was if you
31:56
look at prestatyn
31:58
the one that was sending missiles over
31:59
i want and in in china
32:02
and so full of the island was
32:05
in fact bases it
32:07
was nothing unusual members of congress this
32:09
year have traveled to taiwan
32:12
previously as as cyborg a
32:14
number of type of fab with fab child but
32:16
we're not going to allow and speaker
32:18
pelosi is absolutely right about this
32:21
that the have a president bush
32:23
sheath dictate to us where
32:25
we should or should go we're going
32:27
to stand by our friends our
32:29
partners in our allies and clearly
32:31
taiwan is one of them so
32:33
the price tobacco the provocative
32:36
is not us
32:37
the
32:38
regime government and we just
32:40
not gonna allow that to happen
32:42
but in terms this policy
32:44
for decades it's been one of strategic
32:46
ambiguity the u s cells arms to
32:49
taiwan but doesn't promise to actually
32:51
defendants do you to
32:53
change that does congress
32:56
need to prepare for
32:58
a chinese invasion of taiwan
33:02
the
33:03
what we have done and i think that what we have
33:06
we will do forgive and we
33:08
have given him that policy
33:10
defensive weapons to taiwan
33:12
ultimately
33:13
they should be decided
33:15
the people sitting and that silo
33:18
the not raising that see
33:20
continue his provocative actually it
33:22
is here for back to back since that a size
33:25
that the status what we
33:27
need at this time is the status
33:29
quo to remain as it
33:31
that is the best way reduce tensions
33:33
not the provocations that are being put
33:36
on by basie
33:38
congressman makes you for your time this
33:40
morning
33:41
on friday i sat down with taiwan's
33:43
represented it to the us south beach
33:45
him for the cbs evening news
33:47
there's more of our interview
33:49
then biden indicated the military
33:52
out wasn't ah enthusiastic
33:54
about speaker pelosi visiting see
33:57
spoke openly about the risk of her plane
33:59
being shut down
33:59
good taiwan ever have
34:02
that level of concern that there was a risk
34:04
here
34:05
we have been living under
34:07
the threat of from china for
34:09
decades arm and we
34:12
cannot let their ongoing
34:14
threat define our
34:16
desire to make friends
34:18
internationally ah
34:21
i'm if you have you have being bullied at
34:23
school you don't say you don't go to school
34:25
or you try to find a way to
34:27
deal with the and
34:30
on that's exactly what taiwan is doing
34:32
a working on making our society
34:34
stronger and more resilient fortifying
34:37
our defenses are so that we have means
34:39
of managing risk on
34:41
the wrist or not posed by taiwan nor
34:43
are they posed by the united states the
34:45
risks are posed a what
34:49
specifically is that risk is
34:51
it a full scale invasion well
34:53
, chinese have not renounced are
34:55
the use of force are they
34:57
have been intensifying threats
35:00
or ports taiwan or that is
35:02
not only on a military level
35:04
it has involved a hybrid tool
35:06
kit of our public
35:09
disinformation of cyber
35:11
attacks economic coercion
35:14
or they have a broad tool kit that
35:16
we have become more more accustomed
35:18
to that again that is not
35:20
going change
35:23
our determination
35:24
to defend our freedom
35:27
for what's happening right now is unprecedented
35:30
at has said sixteen
35:33
warplanes since he warships right
35:35
off your posts do you believe that
35:37
this just a drill
35:39
well indeed china's behavior
35:42
is unprecedented and from
35:44
the scope and the
35:46
actions are it appears that
35:48
they have been preparing for this
35:50
for some time away before
35:52
speaker decided to
35:54
visit taiwan
35:56
it is seemingly showing
35:58
that it can blockade
35:59
i want that to eating cut
36:02
you off from the rest of the world
36:04
what the cost of doing something like
36:06
that
36:07
has been building up their
36:09
military capacities are rapidly
36:12
are over recent years on
36:14
and what they are doing through these exercises
36:17
are has the potential of jeopardizing
36:20
some of the most important our
36:23
air and sea commercial ralph
36:26
commercial believe are they will also jeopardize
36:28
china's our interest our interest stable
36:30
environment under which trade and
36:32
commerce consumption such risky
36:34
and dangerous behavior has implications
36:36
for the world do you have any assurances
36:39
from the bad white house that they would
36:42
the send you not to sell you
36:44
weapons as president have for the past forty
36:46
years actually come
36:48
to your defense we have a very strong
36:51
security partnership that ensures
36:53
the protection of our shared interest
36:56
in the regional peace and stability do
36:58
you believe the timeline foreign invasion is
37:01
moving up the criticism of what speaker
37:03
pelosi did by visiting is
37:05
that she is provoking china
37:08
i think the were a provocation
37:10
has only one place and that's what china right
37:12
now are they are the ones that are provoking
37:15
regional instability so you
37:17
do not think
37:18
that this was a mistake and that
37:21
this does it has backfired well ,
37:23
visit some has been welcomed
37:25
by the taiwanese people on
37:27
sometimes it's for other countries
37:29
from afar to fully understand
37:32
the feelings and prospectus of
37:34
the taiwanese people and that is
37:37
our for too long to a we have been
37:39
bullied isolated
37:41
and and banned from international
37:44
organizations so when friends
37:46
come from afar and wished to lend
37:48
their support to taiwan or
37:50
we generally take that with gratitude
37:53
when you talked about ministers and officials they
37:55
will say he's and paying
37:58
the president china is taking that
37:59
he is watching vladimir
38:02
putin is doing right now and ukraine
38:04
as a test case to see what he
38:06
can get away with in taiwan
38:09
laughing do you think you've learned right
38:11
now i think we are learning lessons
38:14
and armed a taiwanese people are learning
38:16
lessons and are we are
38:19
learning that we have to be better prepared
38:21
are we have to be stronger in our own
38:23
ah self defenses are we
38:25
have to work hard
38:28
to galvanize the international
38:30
support international working to
38:34
that tragic scenario
38:36
from ever happening
38:38
are you concerned that the west damn
38:41
by taiwan
38:43
the way it has to advise ukraine's
38:45
china is financially so
38:47
powerful
38:49
it would be hard
38:50
for the west to cut it off
38:52
well i think com that
38:54
was one of the messages that speaker
38:56
pelosi was trying to convey and
38:59
that is some your ,
39:01
all challenges we
39:03
have friends in the international community
39:05
who will stand with us
39:07
i'm awfully china has
39:09
also flexed its diplomatic muscles
39:11
it off a number of agreements
39:14
it says with the united states because
39:16
of this visit including collaboration
39:18
climate change are concerned
39:21
that the west will look at this and say it's
39:24
not worth it
39:25
not just on climate change but priorities
39:28
that outbreak i want
39:31
well i'm are i'm are concerned yes
39:34
we are concerned about the disruption
39:36
of a very important discussions on
39:38
global issues on that
39:40
are matters of interest to
39:43
not only the united states but the china
39:45
everyone in the world arm
39:47
but the fact is again er
39:49
visits congressional visits
39:51
to taiwan have been ongoing for
39:53
deck his and for
39:55
decades it hasn't present prevented
39:58
the united states and china from
39:59
in constructed the russians on
40:02
matters of mutual interest and
40:04
i'm i agree with yells some of
40:06
the us white house and other statements
40:09
and the analyses sat on
40:12
though
40:13
the beijing government is currently trying to
40:15
manufacture a crisis arm
40:17
over i'm a
40:20
after that has been ongoing for
40:22
decades and are they
40:24
using this as a pretext arm
40:27
and i think we have to make that
40:29
clear on if china is
40:31
to evolve i'm as
40:33
a responsible stakeholder
40:36
in the global community it's really
40:38
up to eighteen to decide
40:40
if they're rejuvenation
40:42
if china's rejuvenation will
40:45
evolve with international
40:47
respect or with condemnation
40:50
our full conversation is
40:52
on our website and you tube channel will
40:55
be back in a moment michigan
40:58
congress and peter meyer is one of ten house
41:00
republicans who voted to impeach former president
41:02
trump following the attack on the capital
41:05
last tuesday he lost his primary
41:07
race against trump endorsed challenger
41:10
congress meyer is with us this morning from
41:12
grand rapids michigan go morning to
41:14
congressman the
41:16
person who won that primary
41:18
isn't election are named john
41:21
gibson he is backed by former
41:23
president trump's why do you think
41:25
michigan republican savored him
41:30
good morning margaret and
41:32
, you said i lost my primary and that is
41:34
on me i take responsibility for that
41:37
but it's important to note that it wasn't just
41:39
former president trump who was in this race
41:42
or there was about a half million dollars that the democratic
41:44
congressional campaign committee in their first expenditures
41:47
of the twenty twenty two midterms dumped
41:49
in to help boost and so we had
41:51
a scenario where not only did i have
41:53
the former president aligned against me but
41:56
in a rare showing rare bipartisan unity
41:58
nancy pelosi and
41:59
the democratic campaign committee also
42:02
united to try to knock me off the ballot
42:04
is now this just the
42:07
cynicism and hypocrisy our politics
42:09
today and frankly
42:11
it'll be unknowable what that ultimate
42:13
impact was but the fact that we have
42:16
the establishment the last and the extreme right
42:18
locking arms and common cause a
42:20
painter very telling picture of where a politics are
42:22
and twenty twenty two right what
42:24
talking about there is an an
42:26
ad that their democratic congressional committee
42:28
campaign since i've had
42:31
problems that three hundred and twenty five hundred
42:33
thousand dollars on to boost
42:35
mr dead some which was as
42:37
much as gibson on his entire campaign
42:39
that's you're to put our viewers are looking
42:42
at right there but do that
42:44
add really made a difference what it means democrats
42:46
voting this primary it's republicans why
42:49
did michigan republicans small
42:51
for this app
42:54
why he i think there is a
42:56
clear question of of agency here of
42:58
course and at the end of the day republican voters
43:00
are going to cast their votes they
43:03
see fit the i should
43:05
note that this ad was not aimed at
43:08
it was not playing on msnbc was
43:10
not playing not playing where democratic
43:12
voters might see it they were targeted
43:15
and places to try to sway and convinced
43:17
republican primary voters to try to give
43:19
my primary challenger a boost up
43:21
and over i and i should add that on
43:24
my defeat was by three
43:26
percent out of over one hundred thousand votes
43:28
cast we lost by less than four thousand
43:31
votes and i think that's important to remember
43:33
when you have very close elections like this
43:35
and obviously competing gets very strong headwinds
43:38
are having a trump indoors challenger
43:40
and a party where president trump still holds
43:43
over seventy five percent approval or
43:45
that a message of focusing on the substance
43:47
of what i've able to accomplish and office i'm proud
43:50
that our offices on track to set a record
43:52
for the most number of bill signed into law by
43:54
a freshman or that those
43:56
type accomplishments i get lost
43:59
in our current for
43:59
the analogy politics get lost in a broader
44:02
sense and i think that is one
44:04
of the fundamental challenges that have as a
44:06
country and as it's of frankly frustrating
44:09
michigan families yeah we're
44:11
dealing with the politics but does not reward
44:13
substance that is not verwoerd you
44:15
know reality a huge on rhetoric
44:18
and personality buffalo else
44:20
do you think democrats are going to get what
44:22
they paid for here right means they're betting
44:24
that would be easier to defeat mister
44:27
deeds vert send you is
44:30
your different going to go to democrat
44:34
important in odessa district that our president
44:36
biden one in twenty twenty by roughly
44:38
nine points i was one of five republicans
44:40
running for reelection and seats were the
44:42
were present a by one and between twenty elections
44:45
by eight or more points and so are while
44:47
i think there is certainly a cynical calculus
44:49
our play with the democrats meddling this
44:52
is risky strategy it's strategy dangerous strategy
44:54
where president biden is in his approval
44:57
his sold in the gutter that
44:59
it is hard to see that strategy and
45:02
it is easy to see that strategy back firing
45:04
of a spectacular weight which is all the more
45:06
reason why we should not be embracing
45:08
zero some idea of politics we should
45:10
not be embracing this this notion
45:12
that if wouldn't keep a problem alive keep it
45:15
festering or but be to gain
45:17
to marginal advantage marginal the process
45:19
that process that equates to a victory i
45:21
think it's a dark and cynical way of viewing
45:24
our politicians are that frankly forty
45:26
eight percent of the electorate and the primary
45:28
here rejected or they they stood
45:30
against that cynicism but there were focused
45:33
on somebody who is working to deliver
45:35
results
45:36
you're a republican
45:38
colleagues liz cheney is that to face a primary
45:41
august the sixteenth and her state
45:44
former vice president dick cheney her father
45:46
releases cydia
45:48
in our nation's two hundred and forty six
45:50
year history there has never been an individual
45:52
them as a greater threat to our republic
45:55
than donald trump he tried to steal the last
45:57
election using lies and violence
45:59
keeping job and power after the voters
46:02
had rejected him he's , coward
46:04
a real man wouldn't lie to his supporters
46:06
he lost his election and the last big
46:09
i know what he knows it's and deep down
46:12
i think most republicans knowing
46:15
mr chaney right there because sixty
46:17
seven republicans told cbs news
46:19
they are more likely to vote for candidates
46:22
who gets an endorsement from the former president
46:24
is the former president the leader the
46:26
republican party or the biggest threat to
46:28
our nation's
46:29
public
46:32
i certainly think that of
46:35
no president trump wants to keep those
46:37
numbers up he wants that degree
46:39
of influence and and i mentioned earlier
46:41
the com and cause between the extremes
46:44
on the right and the establishment laughed
46:46
at me or nancy pelosi i think she's
46:48
waking up every day crossing our fingers
46:51
that donald trump runs in
46:53
twenty four that he announces well ahead of the
46:55
midterms because right now the midterms
46:58
are suddenly a referendum on president biden
47:00
leadership and speaker pelosi
47:02
and many of my haven't democratic colleagues do not
47:04
want that they wanted to be a referendum on
47:07
former president try i think former president
47:09
trump wants that as well
47:10
well we will be watching
47:12
that primary and commitment
47:14
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