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i'm margaret brennan in washington this
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week on face the nation we are in
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an intensely divisive time
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in america, with new questions about
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possible, criminal misconduct by former
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president trump and concerns
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about handling of some of our nation's
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most sensitive national security secrets
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as who struggle to deal with these unprecedented
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challenges to our democracy
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then on the eve of
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the one-year anniversary of the u.s pull
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out and the taliban take over in afghanistan
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will have an exclusive look at a new
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report about what went wrong
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as a new us intelligence assessment
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says al qaeda is no longer a threat
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all , a look at the country's teacher
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shortage and is essential impact
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on our children have
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the morning and welcome to face the nation
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it has then six days since the ask
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the i executed a search warrant and
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seized at least two dozen boxes of material
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from former president trump's florida home
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and resort mara lago
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the dramatic developments each day since
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have left us with more questions than answers
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here is what we now the department of
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justice is investigating mister trump for
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potential criminal action a
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federal court authorized to search warrant
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after finding probable cause of impeding
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the investigations as well as the removal
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of classified national security records
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and violation of parts of the espionage
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act according , the presidential
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records act the removal of materials
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is illegal whether they're classified or not
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the sci seized eleven sets of
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classified documents some their top
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secret and above including
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highly sensitive intercepts plus
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material related to the president of france
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and trump
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but out major stones clemency
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while in office presence can be classified
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most anything but white house
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lawyers establish a paper trail
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it is unclear if one exists for these
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adams the , was
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conducted with to of mister trump's lawyers
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on say what was not public knowledge
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until the former president announced
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it on his social media platform
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truth social monday night it
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was the first of many posts things with the
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familiar charges of hoaxes witch hunts
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and other false claims
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the outrage from his supporters with
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every republican
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police as the f b i was exhausted
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top and other organizations
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have lost masterminds this should scare
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the living daylights out of american
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citizens the we're federal government has gone
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it's gone it's what we thought about
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just stop or b people like that threats
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against law enforcement spiked dramatically
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online using extreme rhetoric
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not seen since the days leading up to
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the january sixth attack on the capital
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any threats made against law enforcement
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including the men women the f b i
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as with any law enforcement agency are
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are deplorable
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and dangerous sorry hey ricky schaeffer
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a navy veteran who said he was at the capitol
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on january six was shot
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and killed by police following his
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armed attempt to breach and f b i field
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office in cincinnati ohio while
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the standoff with schiffer was still ongoing
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attorney general merrick garland offered
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aware of public statements defending
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the search
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i personally approved the decision
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to seek a search warrant in this matter
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the department does not take such a decision
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lightly
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the court then agreed to garlands requests to
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unseal the warrant trump's
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lawyers did not object that
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warren gave us some insight friday
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into what received the
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deal j investigation began months ago
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following the national archives discovery
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that some of mister trump's presidential
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records had nothing to the over
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as dictated by law the
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former president acknowledged she'd taken
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material to marla go after he left
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office and return fifteen boxes
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in january soon after that
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officials disclose that classified national
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security information was among those
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materials this ,
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a federal judge issued a subpoena in search
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of further records said investigators believed
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he failed to turn over on
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june third federal agents return tomorrow
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lago tomorrow discuss additional material that was
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missing cbs news has learned
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that trump attorney certified in writing
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after that meeting that all classified
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materials had been removed
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mara law though
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the o j suspected that was not the case
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which triggered the s the eyes retrieval
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last monday and
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there is still a lot we do not now
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news organizations including cbs
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have filed a freedom of information act request
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for the release of the underlying affidavits
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that would outline evidence and give us insight
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into why the o j officials believe a crime
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possibly have been committed we
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begin today with sheath election campaign
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correspondent robert costa sheath national
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affairs and justice correspondent justice the gays
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and congressional correspondents scott
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macfarlane you've all been busy jeff
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i want to start with you in the news overnight
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that homeland security has issued this
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a rather frightening bullet and frankly using
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language talking about threats to law enforcement
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around the country or nicole
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kinda obtained it's and according to bulletin
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it says the threats are specific including
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a threat to place a so called dirty
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bomb in front of f b i headquarters
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and there are calls for civil
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war what are your sources telling
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you about the rest of us this is
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as he noted one of the most chilling
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bulletins i've read and i've read
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numerous bulletins dating back to the
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the days of al qaeda and isis
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and so this is the domestic threats here
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and according to the board and was i was just
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looking out again part of a concern
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or some of these drivers public officials
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making statements in support of a search
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laura lago are against
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criticizing the search criticizing the f
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b i and so you have up the i officials
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right now concerned about the safety of
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their agents employees
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in general and let as he noted
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that dirty bomb reference
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a so there is a lot of concern of around the
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country and this and this kind of bullets in that will
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go out to all police agencies
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have that they are intent on sharing
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information because frankly you don't really
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know where the threat is really going to come
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from
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and any mentions continued concerned
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going into the mid term races as
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well a robbery i
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want to go to you now you know we were talking
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about this investigation and putting it in
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the scope of all the different probes
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and we tally them up here for
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, former president or at least three investigations
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that the federal level that we know about
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one state probe in new york into the trump organisation
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the trump jury and fulton county georgia's
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looking his attempts over twenty twenty
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we're not even talking about what's happening capital help these
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these are investigation is underway right now
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this however triggered
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the most significant law
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enforcement response to dates
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what are your sources tell you about what
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the f b i his
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that we found it's such a good
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reminder margaret's that among
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all these investigations that are ongoing
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this one going back to the spring has been
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very serious in the attorney general statements
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underscore that it began with a subpoena
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in the spring then the search the meeting
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in june than of that led to the ultimate
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search and august's at the president's residence
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they are looking into the boxes that
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he had personal materials as well
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as classified materials allegedly that
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were then included as part of the the
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trove of materials and documents that went
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to more a lot of they are highly alarmed
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behind the scenes about the possibilities
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that as you have reported intercepts
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sensitive information about national security
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defense projects were part of what
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the former president brought back to florida
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without checking with other people some associates
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or the former president say hey he is someone
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who sometimes was an organized but
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for the justice department's that's not going
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to be an excuse that that's part of
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their investigations what does he
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have is it a threat to the national security
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and they want him to give it back but it's already
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a legal battle and why wait eighteen
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months to asked what triggered this
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tremendous response this week we've
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so many questions out
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get to start with matthew on the politics of that's
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because we're , there
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are some that scott under threat levels
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i know you have been watching the
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level of concern out there proceedings
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the events of this week week
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a when we look at the present the former present statements
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he uses words like siege a
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task that the f b
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i is really targeting him
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he has not called for palms
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he is continuing to use this rhetoric
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what impact
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their immediate li we see this quick a seller
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acceleration of ferocious
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chatter on social media platforms
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on chat groups from potential
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extremists targeting the
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judge the search warrant
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they're trying to deduce who the f b i agents
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were we're part of that search
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but that's just an inflammation of
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an already dangerous situation stemming from
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january sixth the prosecution
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the capital riot has created
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it's own radicalization the
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dc federal judges family the january
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six cases are getting bio
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bulger death threats
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the people who are part of the investigation
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are getting threats the prosecution
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itself as radicalizing people now
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we have a force multiplier search
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of monologue
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and what's so interesting here is we're
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not just had not rhetoric online for
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homeland security to have gone out
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taken what you laid out and then issued a
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bulletin saying this is saying real
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specific threat that shows
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that this that this this isn't just
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people talking out of school
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the law or like that let me look
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in the in ohio on
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thursday with is ricky schiffer
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who was you know took action
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tried to attack bus f b i
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cincinnati office a
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but was shot and killed but it it is the
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kind of threat but officials are concerned
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about bees or loan at actors
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who are motivated by some other
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drivers which is these public statements
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from public leadership the days
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support they endorse and
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what you are hearing or these calls for armed
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rebellion and are there are people out
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there who obviously have access
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to the weapons to really cause
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some damage
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deeply concerning i'm robert
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how say you have been reporting that's
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the forty fifth president would like to run
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again and
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making some plans to run
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for president and twenty twenty four how does this
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impact that this is factored
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into his decision into some way i'm
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told by people close to him this weekend's that
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he still moving toward an announcement despite
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all of the legal challenges legal is
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facing potentially damaging we're
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not saying it's not damaging use it
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this could be extremely damaging we have so
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little visibility into what he put
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in these boxes was it a a grave national
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security threats it could be politically
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explosive down the line but
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we don't want to get ahead of that in terms of the political
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impact but it in no way does seem to be
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deterring him for moving toward when what we
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are seeing behind the scenes also is is
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arguing that he has some kind of declassification
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i spoke with national security advisor the former
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one john bolton who worked for trump and
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he said any argument said this was somehow
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declassified won't hold
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off because he said the president had the responsibility
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to take care of the records he was given from
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intelligence briefers even if he brought them back
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to the resident he had a responsibility
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to make sure they were filed properly and
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that even if he didn't have the intent of committing
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a crime said it was the wrong thing to do
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be a paper trail this is an ongoing
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story know all of your busy thank you
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we want to donate a california democratic
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congressman adam schiff he's the chairman
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of the intelligence committee and his book midnight
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in washington is now out in paperback
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the morning to chairmanship
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the morning
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you are typically the about covert operations
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ongoing national security
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swaps do you have any sense
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at this time whether the information
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that donald trump had in this florida
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residents posed any
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kind of threat to national security
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well all i know about the actual materials
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is what was in that search warrant
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inventory of but from that alone you can
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tell there was a serious risk it
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had to disclosure potentially of sources
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and methods because some of those documents
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were marked top secret sensitive compartments
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it information that ,
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among the highest a designation in terms
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of the as the extremely grave
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damage national security that
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could be done if it were disclosed
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as on the fact that they were in unsecure place
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that is garden with nothing more than nothing more
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were whatever security the had at a hotel
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or is deeply alarming i
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and i have asked where along with sherman
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maloney the damage
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assessment by the intelligence community and a briefing
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to congress
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will you get one have you heard from the director
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of national intelligence
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i have not heard back yet know but i'm
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confident we will get one and i'm confident
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the intelligence community will do a damage assessment
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that is i think fairly routine when
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there has been or the potential
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risk of disclosure of national
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security information of classified information what
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is to make the most disturbing
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here is that
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the degree to which at least from the public reporting
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or it attempted it you know it appears to
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be willful on the president's part
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of the in a keeping
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of these documents after the government was requesting
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them back and that is adds another
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layer of concern
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so if it were truly missouri
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ils of this classification
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level and it's been publicly reported
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elsewhere that they're worth of materials related
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to nuclear programs for example
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if there was that sensitive level
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of information being helps why
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to justice of armed officials wait eighteen
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months after the end of the trump presidency
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what change that needs as a media
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i don't know but in the ah yes
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of the trump people represented
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that they provided all the classified or national
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security information and didn't that's
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a serious problem i could tell you anyone an intelligence
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we really that had documents
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like that mark top secret sci
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a in their residence after authorities
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went to them the you know
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they would be under serious investigation
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i mean the president has
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, declassification authority when
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he is in office but typically
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a d classification is memorialized
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in some way up
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can you seek out the answer
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to the question of whether they're actually his
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record at whether donald trump declassified
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that that's his defense hear that the anything
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hear had the had already declassified
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yes so we should determine
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our you know whether there was any effort
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during the presidency to go through the process
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of declassification i've seen no evidence
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of that nor have they presented any evidence of that
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are the idea for a while i for present has
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no declassification authorities rent and the
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idea that eighteen months after the fact
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donald trump trump could simply an hour
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swell am i , retroactively
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declassifying or whatever i took home had the
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effect of declassifying them or
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is absurd absurd nonetheless
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the statutes the just fervent
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are asserting ,
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search one they don't even require
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that they still be classified a if they would be
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damaging to national security it's
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a problem is a major problem and
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we're finally and like to add the the rash of
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of many my republican colleagues it
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and those around the them are
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present to attack the f b i over this
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endanger f b i agents is
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just another the
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damaging level of irresponsibility
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also we learned this past week
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that your colleague our congressmen
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scott perry who leads the freedom caucus
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the justice department sees his cell phone
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as part of their investigation into the attempt
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to overturns the election results
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in twenty twenty and that slate of speak
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electors the committee
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looked in to his actions and the slate
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of fake electors we heard during the public
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testimony about that and some conspiracy
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theories that he had been talking to mark
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meadows the chief of staff about are
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those oh parts of those investigations
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overlap thank you
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well directed at agree that the justice department
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appears to be investigating the say collector
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plot of then yes
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our investigations would very much be overlapping
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what is to me most striking about
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the seizure of that phone or
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is in order to do that of course they would have
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to make a showing a to a judge
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our grand jury about the
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, being probable cause that there
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was evidence of a crime crime
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that phone and the fact that
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it was a member of congress as phone i
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think would make the justice department
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all the more certain more need
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to be certain that they had
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they probable cause anna
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that also suggest that apartment thinks that
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this may collect a plot was a violation
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of law which i see could certainly was so
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i think is very significant all those respects
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and and just that is it's
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own eyes federal investigation
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there are another topic i want
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to ask you we're , up
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on this one year anniversary of the us withdrawal
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from afghanistan and it's taliban
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takeover of that country
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you said at the time of the withdraw
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that that you would have liked the
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military to stay on as is necessary
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to get americans out and fulfill or obligation
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to our allies you had pledged vigorous
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oversight we haven't seen the white
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house or state department acts after action
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report on this the country is
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just an utter devastation under taliban
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rule they really have
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to be this bad
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why should we don't think overthrow had to
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have a go as it did and
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the loss of american lives are in that with wrong
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i am the degree to which it
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took months and months and we continue to try
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to help people are escape
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from afghanistan i think could have been
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handled differently but
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i do think that we we have demonstrated
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the miss russia has demonstrated with
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the killing of the water is a number
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to al qaeda are under been logged
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that it retains the capability much
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as it said it was a year later to
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go after those
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that threaten the country wherever they may
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be in this case the heart of kabul i
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think you know the killings laundry shows both the
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both the i am also our capability
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the danger in that's i think
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clearly high elements
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of the taliban government had to know that
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he was there and we're giving him safe harbor
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events and williams aspirated we
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can and will go after anyone el
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al qaeda is an ongoing threat i think
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though that the threat from al qaeda is
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probably greater outside afghanistan
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than it is in afghanistan's township
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thank you for your time this morning the
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back and mom
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take out with
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the major garrett this week virginia sen
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tim kaine kansas was the first state
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to have sort of political litmus test
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of the post roe versus wade politics
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is really demonstrated out of touch
19:42
the supreme court is in mid term elections
19:45
you're going to see that has been a driving factor
19:47
in turn out as a result you believe
19:49
and predict the democrats will retain
19:52
their slender senate majority after the midterms
19:54
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morning to you i wonder as
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a former agent you've seen
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the warrant now as we all have what
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does indicate to you about you about crime was
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committed
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yeah thanks for having me well i
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think it can be summed up the one line margaret
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it was an unprecedented action that needs to
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be supported by unprecedented justification
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par , was an unprecedented action yes
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we know that this has never happened before before
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our country's history to the second question was
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are unprecedented justification that
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remains an open question and we know exactly where
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to look in that as the affidavit probable
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cause to one document that remains
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under seal so ,
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we don't have that information i've encourage
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all my colleagues on the left and the right right
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reserve judgment and not get ahead yourself
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because we don't know what that document contains
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that's gonna answer a lotta questions when
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we had the press conference had the
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with my though intelligence committee
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members i telegraph to the press then i said
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the documents that you'll see unsealed today
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which was yeah i'm sorry the at the warrant
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the rider to the war and the property receipts
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are not going to shed a whole lotta light beyond
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the statutes or being investigated
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you voted for bill and twenty a team
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that made it a felony to possess documents
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or materials containing classified in for
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me
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they said
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president trump signed that same building a law did
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he break
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that's all we gotta find out and a note nobody
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is claiming otherwise be allowed to be any
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that classified and top secret
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and above information in boxes at
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mariah
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right yeah nobody's claiming that it's okay to have
22:19
a certainly i'm not that it's okay to have classified
22:21
information anywhere outside of a skiff i
22:24
, that better than anybody given my former profession
22:26
am i currents committees simon but
22:28
the problem is that the administration
22:30
is disputing a lot of what's being publicly
22:33
reported so the affidavit will answer that
22:35
question isn't it will be able to tell us
22:37
who is providing misinformation is it the
22:40
didn't the prior ministration prior the current
22:42
administration we need we need to get that clarified
22:44
well as you know when news organizations
22:46
are trying to get a hold of that other david but those
22:48
aren't normally released during an active investigation
22:52
is it appropriate to release it
22:54
now in the midst of an investigation
22:57
well that's a i would say this margaret
23:00
at the very least it if they don't wanna just
23:02
on see what for public consumption
23:05
, can certainly bring it into the skiff skiff
23:08
bring it to our our house intelligence committee members
23:10
we after all do of oversight over
23:13
the entire intelligence apparatus so
23:15
that's what's puzzling to us to margaret
23:17
might myself for my turner fabulous
23:20
member congress from ohio who's taking a very measured
23:22
approach as well approach ,
23:24
the dynamics at play here we just want
23:26
to get to the truth that see our objective
23:28
truth so we're not taking any angle
23:31
from any size here
23:32
i and i want to get to some of that
23:34
truth in fact is we know it more
23:37
on the other side of afraid and anything in
23:39
a told you that the threats against law enforcement
23:41
that we're seeing so please stay with us
23:48
mack base in a sense we continue our
23:50
conversation our former f b i agent
23:52
now congressman's brian says patrick
23:55
of pennsylvania congressman a breitbart
23:57
a conservative website published
23:59
the name the f b i agents
24:02
who went tomorrow lago and
24:04
, related to that and there are now
24:07
a spike in online threats against
24:09
them i wanna play
24:11
for you how some republican party leaders
24:14
have described events this week
24:18
the f b i rate of president trump's is a complete
24:20
abuse and overreach of it's
24:22
the already were very strong as supporters
24:24
of law enforcement any concerns everybody
24:26
if you see some agents go rogue
24:28
in if you see and agencies that
24:30
doesn't have the right checks and balances at the top
24:34
that responsible to refer to the law
24:36
enforcement officials as going rogue
24:41
that think margaret and average all my
24:43
colleagues some third to make sure they
24:45
understand the way to their words and understanding
24:48
what we don't know yet that's why that probably
24:50
cause affidavit
24:51
is so important and the unfortunate reality
24:53
margaret a minimised a few short years
24:55
in congress i've seen
24:58
the undermining of all three branches
25:00
of government leads you threats
25:02
of violence and acts of violence starting with the
25:04
or the attack oh my
25:05
fellow baseball team members on on the
25:07
baseball field to threats to supreme court
25:10
justices to threats to law enforcement
25:12
both local on during yeah the unrest in the
25:14
summer of twenty twenty and now to
25:16
federal law forsman all this on acceptable
25:18
were and now there's a bullet and warning law
25:21
enforcement of the level of threat right
25:23
now that why want to ask you overnight
25:25
a series of statements from the forty fifth
25:28
president saying the f b i has i has
25:30
and unrelenting history of being corrupt
25:33
he said the f the eyes a criminal rico
25:35
enterprise his cover sources and methods
25:38
include criminal acts his campaign
25:40
is fund raising off
25:42
of this and has referred
25:45
to an army of agents from
25:47
the f b i breaking into his
25:49
home and said that he
25:51
hopes are not planting evidence
25:54
the putting a target on the back of
25:56
these sci agents
26:00
i checked in with several my colleagues
26:03
in , past few days margaret to make sure
26:05
they're okay okay
26:07
single elected official every single leader
26:09
needs the mind the weight of their of this
26:12
kind of including the or my
26:14
prayers
26:14
the united states who has right on
26:17
called for com
26:20
correct i , everybody needs be calling
26:22
for com everybody across the board and
26:24
everybody needs respect our last for smit whether
26:26
it be local or state or federal
26:29
federal very i'm margaret
26:31
for the safety of our law enforcement officers are
26:33
especially officers now i myself
26:36
have been notified by the bureau that my
26:38
life was put in danger recently
26:41
by some of these same people
26:43
and it's violence is never the answer
26:45
to anything we , in a
26:47
democracy that torn or forty six years
26:49
old margaret that's not law
26:52
that says a few generations and yet where the world's
26:54
oldest democracy and the only way that
26:56
can come unraveled is if we have
26:58
disrespect for institutions that
27:01
leads you americans turning on american
27:03
n n d the whole system becomes
27:06
unraveled and a lot of that starts with the words
27:08
were using reasons why it's all my colleagues
27:10
and we've seen disrespect across the are
27:13
crossed the political spectrum the
27:15
margaret which i mention with local law enforcement
27:17
with the supreme court now federal law for smith
27:20
none of it is okay numbers
27:21
if you take the name donald trump off
27:23
of this warrant are you okay with
27:25
this race
27:29
that should matter no one is above the law or
27:32
, a principle that all of us should agree to
27:35
for all i'm saying here margaret
27:37
is an unprecedented action
27:39
because this will have an impact the or another
27:41
then for example for example a
27:44
lot of us are trying very hard litigates fires
27:46
and section seven or to reauthorize this
27:49
is you know potentially if this were were
27:51
warrant that was excessive a we don't know whether
27:54
it was you're not because margaret there's a continuum
27:56
of ways to gather evidence everything from the past
27:58
the service of a subpoena that with a future
28:00
production date to the dynamic execution
28:03
of a search warrant which we saw here
28:05
there's a lot of things you can do and between including a fourth
28:07
with subpoena where you present that subpoena
28:10
at the door you don't enter the premises but you demand
28:12
instance production then and there we
28:14
don't know what was appropriate what
28:16
was justified
28:17
not and that's why the saturday
28:18
the so poor that will answer all the questions
28:21
summers you all my colleagues don't pre judge
28:23
what we don't know about yet and i'm also
28:25
urging all my colleagues to understand
28:27
the weight of your words and support law enforcement
28:30
no matter what
28:31
thank you very much congressman fitzpatrick
28:34
and on saturday the by an administration released
28:37
and updated assessment on al qaeda
28:39
in afghanistan citing intelligence community
28:41
reports that the terror group is
28:43
no longer assess to be a threat in that
28:45
country tomorrow marks
28:48
one year since the chaotic collapse
28:50
of the afghan government as us troops prepared
28:52
to leave to while the administration's full
28:55
report administration's the much criticised withdrawal
28:57
criticised still a work in progress the top
28:59
republican of the house foreign affairs committee
29:01
michael mccaul report is complete
29:03
he's here with us the morning to congressman
29:06
that's or a ceramic
29:07
this deserves a full
29:09
a conversation and i want to get to it when we do
29:12
the said a business though first on the events of the
29:14
past few , days
29:17
marco rubio is the vice chair us senate
29:19
intelligence issued a layer of letters
29:21
seems outrage not to have been briefed
29:24
and he blasted the ask the ice
29:26
saying that they have done more damage
29:29
to face and the rule of law than the russian
29:31
federation or any other foreign
29:33
adversaries is his anger misplaced
29:37
yeah i think it goes on the hill on the wall street journal
29:39
did a great article dot how your
29:41
after the russian collusion steele dossier
29:44
there's a took place during the trump presidency
29:47
and now out of office to have this raid take
29:49
place but i admire a d o
29:51
j one naya were to public integrity
29:53
here main justice and what
29:56
, worry that margaret it is the lack of
29:58
trust in and faith
30:00
in our institutions that concerns the
30:02
most above ,
30:05
and i think when he saw the dhs bolton
30:07
about in a potential threats now to
30:09
the agents ah this is the
30:11
whole fabric of our democracy democracy
30:14
they have was says many have
30:17
ah in the f b i ne
30:19
to since i had to see that as
30:21
that former federal prosecutor
30:23
understood and there is something like a healthy
30:25
skepticism about law enforcement certainly
30:27
but for the former president to be using the language
30:29
that he is when there is this level of threat
30:32
against f b i agents would
30:34
you call on him to tone it down
30:37
i think it's inflammatory i don't want to
30:39
anyone for sense in
30:41
, balls i have a potential threat
30:44
threat add add some someone who's worked with one
30:46
force of most my career or this is
30:49
extraordinary taste and what's
30:51
more years we call a case of first impression
30:53
that we've never had as a former
30:55
president i'd stayed serve the search warrant
30:58
other was a subpoena the court coven
31:00
force the subpoenas that sort of in alaska
31:04
stage processed and are also agrees
31:06
brian says patrick rights the affidavit
31:09
in support of the warheads will
31:11
give you the probable cause to try to
31:13
understand what is going on
31:15
here and as easy american people deserve this
31:18
and this certainly say to rubio points
31:20
that the gang of eight seven briefs and
31:22
briefs believe is the role that committees on the hill
31:25
should have access to the dartmouth's but more
31:27
most importantly this affidavit
31:30
well as we will see
31:32
it sounds like it may take some time to get some
31:34
of these answers i want to talk to you about
31:37
afghanistan i
31:40
read your report the state department
31:42
says or about seventy four thousand vulnerable
31:44
afghan still waiting
31:47
for these visas exit the country's
31:50
armed with the worked with the united states government
31:52
your report says the state department new
31:54
going back and where one to the trump administration
31:57
said it needed more staff
32:00
that it needed more resources to even
32:02
begin to help get these people out
32:04
and that's before the chaos of the withdraw is
32:06
that one of the prime sort of sins
32:09
hear that you see in terms of failure
32:11
to plan
32:11
there are many down since
32:14
as you well there , a complete lack
32:16
put in a sailor to plant there
32:19
was no plan and it was there is no plant
32:21
executed executed sera
32:24
do not see your point terms your
32:26
him beforehand i think the state department probably
32:28
didn't have the resources needed to carry
32:30
out an evacuation of this size
32:33
and enormity of a thirty six com for
32:35
officers at a skier trying
32:37
to process hundreds of thousands of people
32:40
thought they were overwhelmed but there are
32:42
so many mistakes of the biggest one market
32:44
for me having lived through
32:46
worked in a being worked in classified space
32:48
would seem to the intelligence community
32:51
tell the story about this is can be imminent
32:54
is gonna fall sooner rather than later
32:56
the military said it towards the same thing
32:59
and then we went to stay in a pain
33:01
in the white house very rosy picture
33:03
there's a disconnect between yeah
33:06
it's houses on the ground and with the white house's
33:08
doing that and a support the seven at
33:10
all it's there's no way we're going evacuates
33:13
embassy personnel from helicopters like we
33:15
did in vietnam failed course
33:17
we know that happened well
33:19
it need to criticism other support will be that best
33:21
buys the minority report that it's inherently
33:23
political
33:25
and now and ronald reagan think the majority
33:27
if they win the majority in november
33:30
that this is going to be just a political line
33:32
of attack had he was
33:33
that aren't you know i don't are
33:35
you know how the federal prosecutor longer
33:37
than a number congress of us fiddles
33:39
twenty years now and i
33:41
pride myself as being objective as
33:44
it is a fairly objective from
33:46
for dot the sailors were made your the biggest
33:48
ones was it that the taliban
33:51
city was all collies other special envoys
33:53
and zero mckenzie the set time for me
33:55
and are made an offer you can take
33:57
control over kabul institute
34:00
for purposes of evacuation
34:01
then when the can be said that's not my assignment
34:03
not my set the set with community told
34:05
me they do run up to the white house
34:08
and budget no response in the waiter jen
34:10
psaki says they would have approved that
34:12
think about what that would have changed we
34:15
had ruined the taliban to secure the perimeter
34:17
of h clients that led to
34:19
the chaos it also led to the suicide
34:22
bomber the killed thirteen service
34:24
member men and women and
34:27
you're a over hundreds of people and
34:30
it could have been avoided
34:32
you know at the current us special
34:34
envoy for afghan women and girls was out of government
34:37
when this was going on she's quoted in
34:39
your report as saying she still struggles
34:41
to understand how this supposedly
34:43
pre planned negotiated inevitable withdrawal
34:45
ended the way it did it feel
34:47
so much like living schindler list
34:50
the pretty powerful criticism
34:55
who's the civically needs to be held accountable
34:57
if anyone here and is it simply just
34:59
a matter of this was an intelligence
35:02
failure ah that the
35:04
government would fall as quickly as it
35:06
did that the former president would have fled how
35:09
to respond to that to that was an inability
35:11
to plan for less because it was not predicted
35:13
movie tells us really get right
35:15
so there's no failure on the toes and sides
35:18
nor are the pentagon they
35:20
cause a riot the problem was the
35:22
white house and and
35:24
state department put in their head in the sand not
35:27
wanting to believe what they're saying and
35:29
therefore not adequately planets
35:31
candidates your point the women
35:33
left behind as is the worst of this
35:35
entire store address i got for
35:37
busloads of little girls from music school
35:39
out but the sims sewers
35:41
was you know if you're on the
35:44
was your your words if you're not on the worst
35:46
you're probably going to die or one hundred thousand
35:48
asked him partners what behind
35:50
know we said we will protect you that
35:52
was our promise to them no one left
35:54
behind and we left them behind
35:57
to mercy the taliban and other
35:59
retorts or
35:59
the killed
36:00
well a the state department says that it has
36:03
tried to comply with your committee we await
36:05
their full report of their
36:07
own actions
36:08
thank you for sharing your find they have not a debate
36:10
market they've not they've not comply
36:12
with our investigation
36:14
and thank you for your time today we turned the entails
36:17
type who reports from kabul about how
36:19
life for the people of afghanistan has taken a turn
36:21
for the war
36:22
under the taliban
36:23
one
36:26
year up to the taliban's lightning fast
36:28
takeover of afghanistan and the group's
36:30
grip on power his side are now more
36:32
than ever
36:33
across cobble you could see the told on flag
36:36
flying nearly everywhere making
36:38
it clear us back republic
36:40
of afghanistan is gone and the fall
36:42
of on islamic emirate of afghanistan
36:45
holding strong
36:47
but the nation's economy
36:49
is in ruins following the taliban
36:52
take over the us prose billions
36:54
and assets and foreign donors pull
36:56
funding that meet up nearly three quarters
36:58
of afghanistan's annual budget triggering
37:02
, the un calls the worst humanitarian
37:05
crisis in the world world
37:07
around ninety percent of people don't
37:09
have enough food to food and yet
37:12
the emirate seems more focused on controlling
37:14
the lives of it's citizens especially
37:16
women who have seen so much of the progress
37:19
they'd made over the past twenty years disappear
37:22
and have been told to been up high
37:25
school aged girls have also largely been
37:28
shut out of classrooms for the past year
37:30
but a growing number are defying the taliban
37:33
by going to unofficial schools like
37:35
this one including the fisa zone
37:37
brothers it all about all
37:40
minute and of my brother doesn't know that i come
37:42
to school she says that it's only
37:44
my mother who supports me the
37:46
world beaters how do we deeds with the
37:49
taliban government continues to be
37:51
a challenge many of the men now running
37:53
afghanistan remain on international
37:55
terrorist list some with multi
37:57
million dollar bounties on their head like
38:00
acting interior minister sir roger dean
38:02
her carney who is linked to this house
38:04
in kabul where the us says i'm
38:06
in also operates the al qaeda leader
38:08
and nine eleven plumber was killed earlier
38:11
this month in a drone strike a
38:14
doc a hard bulky as the taliban spokesman
38:16
for the ministry of foreign affairs
38:18
so far we haven't reached the conclusion that indeed
38:20
a mrs the why who was president
38:23
the be clear you're not confirming
38:25
that i'm and also a hurry was killed in
38:27
that house not far from where we're sitting down absolutely
38:31
we have not arrived at
38:33
that conclusion
38:35
roka hard to argue however did agree
38:37
that is the leader of a terrorist organizations
38:40
like a kite us without living in
38:42
afghanistan at all of on would
38:44
consider it a violation of
38:46
the nation's sovereignty
38:49
josiah reporting from kabul overripe
38:51
this is intelligence
38:53
matters with former acting director of
38:56
the cia michael morale this
38:58
week how brands a distinguished professor
39:00
at johns hopkins university talks about
39:02
his new book
39:03
danger zone the coming conflict
39:05
with china they become more prone
39:07
to use coercion to use violence to
39:10
use force to get what
39:12
they want while they can still crap and
39:14
and it's a trap that we worry that china may
39:16
be falling into today follow intelligence
39:18
matters wherever you get your podcasts
39:23
we were also nearing another milestone
39:25
it's been almost six months since russia's
39:27
invasion of ukraine and the war is entering
39:30
a dramatic new phase are
39:32
charlie daggett a report from the southeastern
39:34
region of you
39:38
ukraine's artillery missile barrage
39:40
is this we continue to exact and
39:42
heavy toll on russian force
39:45
nearly six months into the invasion the
39:47
offensive grinds on israeli
39:50
and territory towns cities we
39:52
visited in eastern gone bad region
39:55
back in april is now
39:57
firmly under russian occupation
40:01
but this week the war entered a dramatic
40:03
new phase in the south and the series
40:05
of explosions that there was an airbase in
40:07
crimea is just one part
40:09
of it he comes as ukrainian
40:12
forces prepare for a major counterattacked
40:14
to with cats are curzon province
40:17
in a front line position were not
40:19
allowed to identify combat
40:21
medic sir high side says said he sees
40:24
horrific injuries is the russes
40:26
have stepped up selling ukrainian
40:29
counter offensive is already under way
40:31
he says yesterday today tomorrow
40:34
and that sit on the airfield in crimea
40:37
is crimea clear statement to russians have
40:39
that we get you and the zapper reason
40:41
nuclear power plant sits on the very
40:43
edge of the front line under was
40:46
in control since the early days of
40:48
the war it's now become
40:50
war battleground with ukraine accusing
40:52
russian forces of accusing it as a sealed
40:55
to launch attacks yesterday
40:57
we visited the towns of marking that's and
40:59
nipple just across the river
41:02
from river plan would have come under heavy
41:04
nightly bombardments this is
41:06
just one apartments destroyed in
41:08
apartments bombardment residents here tell us
41:11
the only about seven seconds from the time
41:13
of launch at the new
41:14
near power plants the impact
41:16
no time for an air raid siren
41:18
no trying to take shelter deputy
41:21
mayor of nyc oppose italia horribly
41:24
told us shells start raining
41:26
down in the early hours and
41:28
do believe that these attacks are coming from the zapper
41:30
reason nuclear power plant said he said
41:33
that rains the maximum is around
41:35
seven miles from us g
41:37
, nations and called on moscow's
41:39
withdraws forces in order
41:41
to avoid a nuclear catastrophe
41:45
but nobody is giving ground
41:47
here as both sides double
41:49
down with a battle to top
41:52
thank you will be back in a moment that
41:55
the school time and districts nationwide are dealing
41:58
with a serious teacher short
41:59
but it hurt you know exactly
42:02
many to as you their teacher last
42:04
to tear gas and data from state to
42:06
state of also carvallo
42:08
is the superintendent of the second largest
42:10
school district in the country los angeles
42:12
need joins us this morning good morning to
42:14
you the bureau of labor
42:16
statistics says there are three hundred
42:19
thousand fewer public school teachers
42:21
and there were before the pandemic
42:23
these are numbers current insurance
42:26
do you know why so many teachers are leaving
42:28
the classroom
42:30
organ my number one i believe we do a
42:32
number one there are economic conditions
42:35
that have made it difficult for teachers
42:37
to be
42:38
recruited into the classroom insufficient
42:40
data
42:41
medical hardship the pandemic did not
42:44
help as certainly the over
42:46
two years that teachers indoors at
42:48
during virtual learning it's him back to school
42:51
with extreme conditions faced by manning
42:54
certainly had a chilling effect for many and as
42:56
a result of that a disproportionate
42:58
number of teachers across the country decided
43:01
to retire before accruing
43:03
full benefits that's truly unprecedented
43:05
in america's history
43:07
what a a member of your it
43:09
staff told us that out in l a to
43:11
mitigate the shortage you're giving
43:13
an incentive grants but
43:15
also something called alternative
43:17
certification programs were teachers can
43:20
go into the classroom before they fully
43:22
completed their own credentialing and their field
43:24
work you've also hired instructors
43:26
on provision and in turn permits that
43:30
sounds like you're lowering standards
43:32
we really not i mean these are of
43:34
fully credentialed individuals they have a bachelors
43:37
or masters degree they may not yet
43:39
have the state certification
43:41
but they have the course content already
43:44
done they may be missing
43:46
a a specific example look
43:49
a we are for the very first time in over a decade
43:51
fully staffed going into august fifteenth
43:54
the very first day of school you're able
43:56
to hire an excess of fifteen hundred teachers
43:59
a during the summer we part of
44:01
the colleges that you'd vs if we cast a wide
44:03
net for recruitment we offered
44:05
incentives and last but not least
44:07
out we as you correctly sad embrace
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this concept of macri credentialing to
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accelerate the hiring of qualified
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teachers for our students
44:18
it would the average pay according
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to national education association in
44:22
your district for teachers eighty seven
44:24
thousand dollars is the issue
44:26
really pay and given
44:28
at the federal level that so
44:31
much emergency funding has been pumped then
44:34
he , to and a half billion just from that springs
44:36
rescue package why isn't
44:39
the incentive enough to solve this problem on
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a national scale
44:43
well number one gets sent us are
44:45
positive however you need to have a pipeline
44:48
as eligible candidates said to fill these
44:50
positions and what we've seen as
44:52
number one door insufficient candidates
44:55
graduating from college as of education
44:57
national particularly teachers
44:59
were the surface station which students with
45:01
disabilities elementary aged students
45:04
as well so ,
45:06
his important working conditions are important
45:09
health benefits packages
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are important at and
45:13
tally one thing tally one send me the cost of
45:15
living in los angeles is considering
45:17
the cost of housing in los angeles
45:20
it is difficult to recruit individuals
45:22
into our community nonetheless
45:24
for the very first time in over a decade every
45:27
single student in every single classroom
45:29
in los angeles unified will have
45:32
a prudential teacher on they weren't
45:34
that's truly stunning
45:35
about ten to twenty
45:37
thousand students you've said are not
45:39
enrolled in school or hearse have
45:41
stopped attending where these kids go
45:45
that's been the question that the country has been
45:47
asking we know a result with a pandemic
45:49
many parents decided not when will kids
45:51
particularly youngest kids then the
45:53
garden and pre k kids in
45:55
schools secondly em
45:58
the myriad like los angeles miami where
46:01
you have a significant percentage of students
46:03
were immigrants sort children of immigrants
46:06
as result the pandemic and worsening
46:08
economic conditions since they may have left
46:11
the community or the country the we
46:13
have the last children at los angeles there are
46:15
lost children in miami new york every
46:17
single large perfect sound that's why
46:19
this past week we scoured the community with
46:21
it but some doors and we are bringing
46:23
gets back into our school system
46:26
it's an important story superintendent we'll
46:28
stay on at thank you the right back
46:31
that's it
46:33
birth today thank you for watching until
46:35
now i'm margaret and is
46:37
easy answer congressmen and
46:38
democrat the california, republican
46:41
congressman, brian fitzpatrick of pennsylvania
46:44
republican congressman, michael mccaul the
46:46
texas and alberto carvalho, the
46:48
los angeles unified school, district superintendent,
46:51
the executive producer of face
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