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Okay, friends today is Maundy Thursday

2:01

or Maundy Thursday. What is the

2:03

other name that we learned for this date started with

2:05

the T? Oh, Tinebrae. Tinebrae.

2:08

Yes. Tinebrae. Tinebrae feels like it has

2:10

more confetti and Maundy Thursday feels like

2:12

a downer. They're both downers.

2:14

How about that? Okay. So we've

2:16

done a few Easter themed episodes

2:18

in the past, including the nose

2:21

of Easter to I kid

2:23

you not about Good Friday and the

2:25

resurrection. So you don't scar your

2:27

children. And, you know, episodes on

2:29

all the key players in the Easter story. And those

2:31

are all in the show notes. They're all excellent. If

2:34

you need to go back, if you're new and you're

2:36

like, I miss those, I need them. I need to

2:38

put them in my Easter basket. Listen, the only reason

2:40

you should skip one is if you're like really into

2:42

us not making fun of John saying

2:44

that he's the fastest runner. It's hilarious. It's hilarious.

2:46

It is the best. It is. But

2:49

for today's episode, we're going back to the basics

2:51

and we're going to do a good old

2:54

fashioned Easter snake draft. So

2:57

the snake draft is something that

2:59

Knox and Jason Waterfalls has taught

3:01

us as the PMG.

3:05

And the premise of the snake

3:07

draft is this. What we

3:09

do is they are, it's

3:12

a gambling thing. It's a betting thing. It's a

3:14

sports thing. I always feel like gambling as a

3:16

face of Jason. Do we have a stance on

3:18

you? I don't think we have a stance. I

3:20

don't, listen, we're openly

3:22

cautious. I think maybe you

3:25

just listen to the spirit on that. I don't really know.

3:29

So what we're going to do is it's

3:31

like a draft except it goes in a

3:33

snake way. And I

3:35

feel like it feels like years later,

3:38

we all still understand. I understand that.

3:40

Maybe in a serpent formation. A serpent

3:42

formation. So the first

3:44

person will choose their thing. The second person will

3:46

choose their thing. The third person will choose their

3:48

thing. And then the third person will choose again.

3:51

And then you understand and the second person

3:53

and then the first and then the first again. I

3:55

understand it. See, it's great. I studied a

3:57

chart before this. You are going, you

3:59

guys. They're gonna love it. It's really it's my first nature

4:01

after experience and I really it really

4:04

is And

4:08

y'all I've been in a very competitive streak

4:10

recently So I've been I just I'm sorry,

4:12

I'm living with my mom right now And

4:14

we've been playing a lot of ticket to

4:16

ride recently every single night. That's our end

4:18

of the night routine If

4:23

anyone had tried to guess what you were

4:25

gonna find the blame I didn't know what you were gonna say.

4:27

I assumed you were gonna say Yahtzee, but

4:29

no it's actually much more modern I love

4:31

that it's exactly and I've got all the

4:33

I've got all the expansion packs and everything Yeah, I

4:36

love to get to ride. None of that is probably.

4:38

All that to say I'm here for it today Okay,

4:40

so but the first thing we have to do is we have to draw for

4:44

Order. So what I've done is

4:46

I've taken the synoptic Gospels Oh,

4:49

do you like how you said gospel? Did

4:52

I say it weird? No, you just said

4:54

it with that emphasis on the pessapee okay,

4:56

so taking the

4:58

synoptic Gospels, which is you

5:00

know, obviously all of them except for John and

5:04

That's Matthew Mark and Luke and

5:06

why are you leaving John out just a reminder to people because there's

5:08

three of us See how that works.

5:10

Yeah. Yeah, you got it. There we go. Are they

5:12

I don't have to wait Are they gonna be in order so

5:14

like if I know I have given them each a number

5:17

I'm gonna my shoes a gospel

5:19

and I will give you and that is the number

5:21

that you are going to do Got it in the

5:23

snake. Do you think she kept him in order Evan?

5:25

What's the best number? Can y'all remind me one is

5:27

the No I

5:31

think the third one gets the back to back right? I

5:33

didn't want me to go back to back I think who

5:36

is the work who is the work number? Okay, so Evan

5:39

oh I'm gonna choose

5:41

you to go first. Thank you.

5:43

And what synoptic gospel will you

5:45

choose? I'm gonna pick a Luke.

5:48

Okay Luke you

5:50

got the third slot Okay,

5:57

so Amy Beth, okay, let's walk through it Matthew

6:00

or Mark, two is the worst number. Did she always

6:02

think two was the worst number when she was making

6:04

the slips of paper? I don't know. But

6:06

which one did I- Matthew has a really good sermon

6:08

on the Mount account, so I wonder if that

6:11

played into anything when coming up with stuff. This

6:13

is fair. I do think I have

6:15

to pick what the heart wants. The heart picks

6:17

what the heart wants, and it is gonna

6:19

always pick the origin text, which is

6:21

Mark. Okay. Unfortunately,

6:23

you have chosen incorrectly. And

6:26

you are number two, which makes me- So you really,

6:28

you just went- She just went in order of like

6:30

a basic B. Okay. You

6:33

didn't randomize it. That's called psychology.

6:35

You really did mess with us.

6:37

That's called screwing with you all.

6:39

That's called psychology by a theater

6:41

director. Yeah, exactly. You

6:43

get that. Fair enough. So basic, you thought

6:45

I was gonna go smarter, but I didn't.

6:47

That's fair, that's fair. Okay, so-

6:50

So you're number one then, right? I'm number one, which

6:52

means I get to go first. And

6:54

my first choice for the draft is,

6:56

I will be taking for my draft

6:58

team, for in my Easter basket of

7:01

the snake draft, I will be taking the

7:04

harrowing of hell. Oh, wow. Lord

7:06

is Lord. That was not even in my- My favorite.

7:08

Okay, so let's talk about the harrowing of hell, guys.

7:11

Wait, let's just pause. For everybody listening at

7:13

home, how shocked are you

7:15

about that choice? Are you- Does

7:18

it matter? No, listen, I think most people

7:20

are not. They're like, no, she's our Bible scholar,

7:22

and she would choose the harrowing of hell. First

7:24

of all, the harrowing of hell- I feel like we

7:26

went very different directions already. No, listen, I got

7:28

all sorts of stuff in here. Yeah, she's got a multi.

7:31

I don't doubt her basket. I just like that

7:33

she was like, I'm gonna get this before they

7:35

take it. Exactly, because I know, first of

7:37

all, I know Jamie's strategy is to take what

7:40

other people love, just to spite them. That

7:42

is true, that is accurate. And

7:44

I would not put it past her to just take the

7:46

harrowing of hell, just so I couldn't have it. So

7:49

I will use my first place position

7:51

to take the harrowing of hell, which

7:53

is the concept that in the time

7:55

between Jesus's death and resurrection, this is

7:57

like an Eastern Orthodox. some

8:00

other denominations believe that

8:04

in the interim part that Jesus

8:06

descended into hell as is noted

8:08

in the apostles and Athanasian creeds

8:10

that he descended into hell and

8:13

while he was down there he

8:15

kind of kicked some

8:18

Satan and he

8:20

sort of, not gonna believe it,

8:22

and he also like liberated everyone

8:25

out of hell which is

8:27

very cool and there's, that is very

8:29

awesome and it's also like there's

8:31

great art surrounding this. There is.

8:34

Like you, if you

8:36

Google the harrowing of hell what you're gonna see

8:38

is you're gonna see a lot

8:41

of kind of iconography of

8:43

Christ grabbing Adam and Eve by

8:45

the wrists out of coffins because

8:47

they don't do it on their

8:49

own. Like they don't even, like

8:51

they don't even reach for him,

8:53

he does it on their, on

8:55

his own. That is beautiful. Oh

8:57

listen, it is gonna eat your

8:59

lunch. It is so good. One of my

9:01

favorite things about harrowing of hell art, we

9:04

learned this because we talked about a little

9:06

bit in previous. Yeah we have, we have,

9:08

I have, we have a bot with called

9:10

QT and I'm on Patreon. We've talked about

9:12

it several times. And it's great and it's

9:14

fantastic and that's when I learned that we

9:16

got the word limbo like that because a

9:18

lot of the art calls it Christ descent

9:20

into limbo. Yeah. And it's so funny to think

9:22

about limbo being like where we'd be like we're

9:25

in limbo. We don't know where to eat if

9:27

we're gonna get a chilies or applebees and it's

9:29

like four also. And Christ will grab your wrist

9:31

to take you to chilies for the second one

9:33

in. Because it is the whole year. But what

9:35

I love, like one of my favorite thoughts to

9:37

think about the herring of hell and I don't,

9:39

this is me using my sacred imagination. Thank you

9:41

Dr. Will Dick-Athne. But one of my favorite thoughts

9:43

to think about the herring of hell is that,

9:46

you know, if we, if we

9:48

take the, the

9:50

traditional text idea about

9:52

Judas and you

9:54

know, obviously I'm a Judas apologist. But

9:57

if we take the traditional text about Judas that he He

10:00

died after betraying Jesus

10:03

then and and we obviously assume

10:05

that like he You

10:07

know the the narrative is that he's not

10:10

a good guy and he's not going to

10:12

be with Christ Probably like this guy sucks.

10:14

We hate this guy. And so

10:16

where would he go? Probably to

10:18

hell right? So what I

10:20

picture is like if if

10:22

he's down there Like then

10:25

he's down there when Christ goes down there

10:28

Yeah, and if he's liberating everyone out of

10:30

hell guess who gets to get out of

10:32

hell, too So,

10:35

I don't know like that's just my you

10:37

love that's my daydream I also am not

10:39

surprised that an Enneagram 3 would choose the

10:42

harrowing of pale how pale pale because They

10:45

all be always be multitasking Jesus

10:49

just be dead for like a minute. It's

10:51

like chill out for a few days No

10:53

business to do right yet. They use an

10:56

extra business. It's Jesus and Enneagram 3 Jesus

10:58

Christ Okay, so that's

11:00

a good one Jamie. You're up next.

11:02

Okay. I'm gonna go in a different direction

11:05

I love it as you might

11:07

have guessed and of course I'm gonna also choose

11:09

a really important biblical part

11:11

of Easter and that is Reese's eggs. Mmm.

11:13

Okay. I love it I love it. Thanks.

11:16

Look if they were adding to If

11:19

they were adding new scriptures to the Canon, I think

11:21

they would add the press release from 1967 where Reese's said Hey,

11:26

we've made eggs 67

11:28

I Realize

11:30

they'd been around that long and listen now guys

11:32

and now because and it's kind of the beauty

11:34

of like No fruits of

11:36

the spirit like Holy Spirit. It's not just one fruit.

11:39

It's so many fruits That's what we also got we

11:41

didn't just get eggs We got hearts and pumpkins and

11:43

ghosts and trees and footballs and bats and bells and

11:45

ugly sweaters were added What

11:47

yes and look miss

11:50

those I freeze them so that I can have

11:52

because Reese's has like hey You can freeze these

11:54

for six months and then just see

11:56

for I free because I do think the egg is

11:59

superior to all other shapes. I

12:02

think the chocolate,

12:04

why do you think it's the perfect? What

12:06

would you do? Well, it's because

12:08

the classic Reese's Cup, the ridges. I

12:10

mean, you have a great, if you're

12:12

eating a Reese's, you're not having a

12:14

bad time. You know, everyone's enjoying it,

12:17

but the ridges make it harder in

12:19

like, you know, just crunchier situation there.

12:21

The egg is the smoothest of all.

12:23

There is nothing getting in the way.

12:25

No barriers to entry. It is just

12:28

a smooth, delightful chocolate experience. And

12:31

the proportion of chocolate to peanut butter is

12:33

correct on an egg, more so than any

12:35

other shapes. I would say, do I want

12:37

to freeze them till I can get a

12:40

pumpkin? No, I don't want to have to

12:42

do that. However, so I would like to

12:44

just in the idea of liberty in Christ,

12:47

could we get a Liberty Bell? You already have the

12:49

shapes. Yeah. Why don't we just didn't

12:51

worry about the shapes anymore? And what if we

12:54

just, hey, these are Reese's ovals. Listen, chickens

12:56

have eggs every day. Why can't we have eggs every day?

13:00

So true. Listen, I did think through, and I

13:02

was like, could for the Fourth of July, could

13:04

we have a constitution? Would people

13:06

get mad if we ate the Constitution? Okay. I

13:09

don't know. I think we could have it. So for me,

13:11

eating shape means edible. It

13:13

seems nice. That's right. And so like, when

13:15

I did my Kroger order recently, it was like, I just, I

13:17

was like, Reese's eggs. And then it was like, you want this

13:19

one or this one? And I was like, I want the higher

13:22

price, because I know with a higher price comes

13:24

a bounty. And

13:26

I want to live a more abundant life. That's right. Okay.

13:30

So that's my first choice. All right. And then what

13:32

about you? Okay. My first choice

13:34

is going to be Easter sunrise

13:36

services. What? Wow. And

13:39

out of the, Bicy K. Out

13:42

of the mayor of, same flavor

13:44

town. Wow. Okay. my

13:47

first fix. You did not need to waste

13:49

that first one. I should have thought about

13:51

who my competitors were. That's okay. Sorry, it's

13:54

your first one. It's your first one. You're

13:56

right. I'm testing the waters here. Just like

13:58

many others that we know in the. Bible

14:00

who have tested waters, you know? Oh,

14:03

wait, wait, Jesus. Yeah, very

14:05

badly. Yes. Okay. So

14:08

I think a sunrise service though, it goes back

14:10

to my approach to going to like

14:12

Disneyland or Walt Disney World. I

14:15

love a rope drop experience, you know,

14:17

meaning I get there when the before

14:19

the park opens, so I'm ready to

14:21

go. And what is a sunrise service?

14:23

If not a rope drop to the

14:26

resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus

14:28

Christ, you know, I want to be

14:30

the first one there. I want to get my money's worth.

14:32

I want a full experience there. And

14:34

so y'all, the best sunrise service that I

14:36

ever went to back whenever I lived in

14:38

Orlando, Sea World did

14:41

a sunrise service. Evan.

14:46

Evan,

14:49

I have so many questions that I don't

14:51

even know where to start. Exactly.

14:54

Blackfish sunrise service? Like

14:57

over Shamu's tank?

15:00

So this, it was in an amphitheater

15:02

that was on the water. And

15:06

I know this didn't happen there, but in

15:08

my memories, I do picture Shamu off in

15:11

the distance as we're singing songs about the

15:13

blood of our Lord and Savior. Is Shamu

15:15

resurrecting from the tank? Like what

15:17

are the, are there ticks? He needs to. No,

15:20

it's in one of the like the off side

15:22

sort of things. Like not in one of the

15:24

animal tanks, but in one of just like the

15:26

ones to the side, but it's

15:28

magical. Y'all. This feels like a Lisa

15:31

Frank face fever dream. Honestly, you know

15:33

what I mean? You're probably not wrong, but I went to

15:35

it two years in a row and I did look it

15:37

up to see if it's still going on. It is. If

15:40

you're in the central Florida area around Easter, I have posted

15:42

a link in the show notes. Will

15:44

some, I will pay someone 50 of

15:47

my personal dollars. I will match that.

15:49

Thank you. Please go to this

15:51

service. Please take ample video. Please provide your

15:54

commentary. Jamie and I will pay you a

15:56

collect first one to send us video. Video

16:00

dollars each and I want to know everything about

16:02

this if Shamu is there or if they you

16:04

know a trapped fish You know Jamie cares about

16:07

the whales a lot Comment

16:10

on Sunrise services being useless and dumb

16:12

and they're not okay as someone who

16:15

Believes that God is the God of all hours of the day

16:18

You know what I mean? Also, I do just

16:20

want to tell you I do I did a

16:22

quick goog on sunrise services and maybe I googged

16:24

Why are Sunrise services the worst? This

16:27

is a true article that came up Easter's

16:29

five fatal flaws And

16:32

first of all that is on Sunday. It

16:34

starts with us on Sunday Jay, Davey Crockett

16:36

literally the writer of this article That's his

16:38

name. Okay, that's what that feels like. I'm

16:40

a be honest. That's like a Texas name

16:42

You know that well, Davey Crockett was from

16:45

Tennessee. I maybe not then maybe not

16:47

we don't I mean But thankfully Sunrise services don't

16:49

make it until number two as a fatal And

16:52

it says Sunrise worship service are indeed found

16:54

in your Bible and they are condemned as

16:56

pagan abomination. Oh my gosh Things

17:02

new To be fair

17:04

it is both Old Testament Ezekiel

17:07

8 and Jeremiah 7

17:09

like yeah Okay,

17:13

I mean you go again, oh my gosh,

17:15

okay. Okay. Um, so I'm actually I'm

17:17

gonna flip-flop what mine what my pre-prepared

17:19

number two Yeah, you got it. You

17:21

gotta make it a game-time decision Yeah

17:24

So because I'm reading the room and I

17:26

feel like what might be taken here. My

17:28

next choice is going to be hash brown

17:33

I y'all of all of all

17:35

the foods that are part of

17:37

my Easter meal hash brown casserole

17:39

My mouth is watering right now. It

17:42

is the best thing one year

17:44

so we had like an Easter celebration on

17:46

us, you know, Easter lunch on Sunday and We

17:49

had a lot of leftovers because we made a lot

17:51

and we did that intentionally, you know as you do

17:53

You know, I had the hash brown casserole and

17:56

over the course of the next 12 hours There

17:58

are four other people that lived in my house I

18:01

ate the entire remainder of

18:03

the casserole and it

18:05

is still something that we bring up in

18:07

our group to this day.

18:10

The time that Evan murdered the half-bought casserole.

18:12

I just love it. I want it more

18:14

than anything. It's actually, it's like the

18:16

perfect overdose of salt. Yes,

18:18

exactly. Because the bacon and

18:20

the hash browns, it's just sodium

18:23

overload. Can I confess something? Don't

18:25

do it. I

18:27

don't know that I've had

18:30

half-bought casserole. Stop it. What do you get as

18:32

a side item when you go to Cracker Barrel?

18:35

I don't know. I'll make

18:37

it. Listen, I'll look in your recipe

18:39

from... Now, maybe Evan, you can compare

18:41

the two. My friend, which he makes,

18:44

and her mom makes it. And

18:46

she is so specific in the recipe, she's like,

18:48

if you get another brand of any of the

18:50

items I've listed, it will

18:52

fail. So it's like

18:54

McCormick's. It's like

18:56

Orida. She's a Hormel

18:59

bacon bitch. She's very specific.

19:02

I mean, it sounds delicious. I'll send you

19:04

my mom's too. You can share in

19:06

contrast. You both of them because you're

19:08

not going to lose in this. You're

19:10

not going to lose. I feel like that's impossible, but I just

19:12

don't know that I've had it. No, that's a great choice. In

19:15

Syria, it sounds amazing. Sorry that

19:17

I yelled at you about the Cracker Barrel side items. Listen,

19:21

I can be disciplined by

19:23

my brother in Christ. That's fine. I can

19:25

be held accountable. That's fine. Jamie,

19:28

for you, what's your next one? My next

19:30

one is, and this is a little niche,

19:33

but I am going to need in my

19:35

basket, resurrection songs sung at the Easter service.

19:38

Here's the thing. I am going to

19:40

need them to not be sung by

19:42

the wife. Here's the thing. I need

19:44

a lived experience when you

19:46

are singing a song to me about

19:49

freedom in Christ. Look,

19:51

Matt Redman, you're great. Charity Gale, love

19:53

you. So pretty. Your hair and the messy bun. Love

19:56

it. But you do not have the lived experience

19:58

to carry this day. And so who? You might

20:00

be on stage and listen, it's tough because a lot of

20:02

us are going to churches where no black

20:05

person goes. Not a tenant, I very much less

20:07

a person who can sing great. So if you need

20:09

a big space, let me tell you how you get

20:11

it. If you can't get it at your own church

20:13

and look your accountant who's off on the price

20:16

team also, they're great, but

20:18

they're not going to get the job done.

20:20

So I'm going to give you four options

20:22

to listen to you. I mean, full like

20:25

headphones loud. If you're headed

20:27

to a sunrise service, which is ridiculous. Why are

20:29

you doing that? Why? Go back to bed. But

20:31

it is going to be either by CC Winans.

20:33

I have a savior. Shut up. Moses

20:37

Bliss, Glory, Get

20:39

Ready, Travis Green, The Hill

20:42

with a cross on it. Okay. And

20:44

then my favorite is a Sunday

20:46

service choir. Lift up your voices. Okay.

20:49

Listen, and again, no offense. And I

20:51

know some of you are listening are

20:53

like, wait, can I'm white?

20:55

Can I not bring a

20:57

hand raised up? It's going

20:59

to be like my dad's hands raised up, which

21:01

are going to be holding them out like he's

21:03

taking something from you. So it's not going to, it's not going

21:05

to be what I need. So that's what I need

21:08

is a triumphant,

21:10

like a build, a build

21:13

to a bridge where somehow Satan

21:15

gets punched in the face. Yeah.

21:17

Oh yeah. That's in the harrowing of

21:19

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22:38

Okay, so I get to go twice.

22:40

My first one is The Ladies

22:42

at the Tomb. Okay, that's

22:44

a good one. How much do I

22:46

love the fact that one of the

22:49

first acts after the resurrection was the

22:51

subversion of the patriarchy? I love it.

22:53

I love it so much. Then

22:55

my second one are Easter

22:58

Egg Hunts. Listen, Christmas is

23:00

for the weak. I

23:04

like that we add a little Hunger

23:06

Games component into Easter. You

23:08

want this candy? You got to earn

23:10

it, kids. Now, listen, I

23:13

do kind of have a sub beef

23:16

with helicopter drops. They're

23:18

cool. They're flashy. I

23:21

get it. They do

23:23

lack a certain finesse. That's

23:25

like a sledgehammer when a real hunt needs

23:27

a scapel. But

23:30

I respect the flash. Have

23:33

you seen a helicopter drop in real

23:35

life before? No. No. I

23:38

haven't either. I want to. Only on

23:40

the YouTube. I want to, honestly. I just feel

23:42

like it's a violent. Oh, yeah. I'm going

23:44

to be inside my car watching from a

23:46

distance. Yeah, it's like, look, the head of the

23:48

Dinkins is in a mulcher truck and we're now going

23:50

to crunch all of your eggs that you got. Erin,

23:53

what's your go to move? What do you

23:55

think makes, what's an element to an egg hunt in

23:58

terms of what's in the egg? Well, it depends. It

24:00

depends. Listen, it can't, well, I mean, listen,

24:02

it depends. There's so many variables, right? Like

24:05

is it too hot for chocolate? Well, you

24:07

got to think about like what type of

24:09

candy is appropriate here. Is there

24:11

a golden egg? What's in

24:14

the golden egg? For sure. Like

24:16

are you gonna, are you, are you volume? If there's

24:18

no golden egg, it's volume. You've

24:20

got to like, you want to get as much

24:23

as you can. If there's a golden egg, you

24:25

don't care about anything except that golden egg. Oh,

24:27

that's smart. We used

24:29

to have a family Easter egg hunt

24:31

at my grandparents' ranch and

24:33

everybody had a color of an egg they

24:35

were looking for. Like, and so that's what

24:37

we evened it out. So like the little

24:39

kids could find theirs and the bigger kids

24:41

could find theirs. And then there was a

24:43

golden egg and whoever found

24:45

the golden egg got a hundred dollars. How

24:47

many times? A hundred? How many times did

24:50

you find that golden egg? I found it a lot. I

24:52

bet you did. I would imagine. I liked that that hunt

24:54

was like, also don't get bitten by a snake. Listen,

24:58

my mom, she, when she does an egg hunt,

25:00

she, Jan loves an egg hunt. I

25:03

believe that. And now she has great grand

25:05

children and the little, the oldest one is

25:08

almost three and she's like, we're going back. We're going

25:10

to do it again. Yes, let's go, Jan. But listen,

25:12

she, one year we did it for the nieces and

25:15

nephews and she said, I'm getting

25:17

too old to remember where I put all

25:19

the eggs. And so she has a

25:21

system where instead of, cause she would put money in

25:23

the egg. Yeah. But a

25:25

little, uh, it's a, it's a, it's a

25:28

coupon. Like an IOU. Yes. Oh,

25:30

that's amazing. That way of eggs are not found.

25:32

There's no like, man, they're $7 out in New York. That's

25:35

a good call. Oh no. Yeah. I'm

25:38

excited this year with, so the nieces and

25:41

nephews that I've, or the niece and nephews

25:43

that I've moved to be closer to, I'm

25:45

spending the Easter with them. They're too young

25:47

to do an egg hunt on their own,

25:49

but I don't think they're like, I feel

25:52

like I could strap, um, my six month

25:54

old niece onto like my, you know, like

25:56

in one of those baby handler things and

25:58

I'll do the egg hunting on. her behalf.

26:01

You mean like, you mean like, cynic in

26:03

the hunger game? I

26:07

like that we're going full in. Yeah,

26:09

absolutely. We're here for it. You know?

26:11

Yeah, that's exactly. I want the full

26:13

experience. Jamie, what's your next one? Okay.

26:15

So my next one is along the same

26:17

lines of the egg hunt. I love dying

26:19

eggs. I love it. Listen, I don't know

26:21

why it's the pause of it all. Like

26:23

I'm like, why is it spelled like that?

26:25

What is it? What does it even mean?

26:28

I love dying an egg. And then I

26:30

figured out how it got Jesus chewed. So I don't know

26:32

if y'all know this, but, uh,

26:34

this is history corner. So

26:37

dying Easter eggs, uh, one tradition

26:39

regarding the eggs is Mary Magdalene. Again,

26:41

the first sermon ever preached. Mary Magdalene

26:44

was apparently carrying

26:48

eggs. You know, while she was going to

26:50

the team, she got a multi-tap her chores

26:52

for the day. Um, and

26:54

it's the, the tradition is that she was holding

26:56

a plain egg in the presence of an emperor.

26:58

I love that it's an emperor, like as if

27:00

there were 17, could have run into you. And

27:02

that she proclaimed

27:05

after having seen Jesus, she proclaimed the resurrection

27:08

of Jesus Christ. And the emperor said, Jesus

27:10

being alive is as likely as that egg

27:13

turning red and the egg

27:15

turned red while he was speaking. And

27:17

I love that. And I kind of love,

27:20

but I do love dying an egg and

27:22

then being like, let's make a

27:24

frittata. So I love it. It's my favorite

27:26

thing. Um, that is also why when sometimes

27:28

you will see an iconography, Mary Magdalene holding

27:31

a red egg. God, do I need to

27:33

get a red egg to put somewhere in

27:35

my house? And that way when people ask,

27:37

I'll be like, it's about an emperor. And

27:40

let me tell you about my Lord and

27:42

savior, Jesus Christ. Yeah. I like the Greek

27:44

tradition of knocking the red eggs together. Have

27:46

y'all ever done? Yeah. I've never done,

27:49

but I've heard of egg knocking. Yeah.

27:52

Yeah. I'll introduce it this year. Yeah.

27:54

Egg knocking. Yeah. Sounds like a lady thing that

27:56

we do. Like when

27:58

we hug our eggs. Jamie, come

28:00

here and give me an eggnog. Okay?

28:03

And then what's your next one? Okay. My

28:06

next one is going to be Easter baskets and

28:09

specifically Easter baskets with no age cap

28:11

on them. I'm 31. I'm

28:13

not, I'm not too old to receive an

28:15

Easter basket throughout the years.

28:18

So my, we subscribe to a belief in

28:20

my family. This goes with Santa and with

28:22

the Easter bunny that as long as you

28:24

still believe the Easter bunny or Santa can

28:27

still come to see you. As long as

28:29

you believe you may receive. Amen. I

28:31

still believe in both of these things,

28:33

you know, and so, and, but it's

28:35

like, uh, in the past,

28:38

my roommates that I've had the Easter bunny

28:40

visits them from Toya Dotson, um, my mom

28:42

and everyone. So whenever I move away from

28:44

a place, it's really a bummer for a

28:47

lot of people around the Easter season. They're

28:49

like, the Easter bunny is delicious. Right.

28:52

I had, um, I lived in one house

28:54

once where, um, one of my roommates, she

28:56

took the giving of Easter baskets very seriously

28:58

and she would hide our Easter baskets,

29:01

um, throughout the house and

29:03

we had to hop to them in order to

29:05

find them. And they were acting like we didn't

29:08

live in a giant house. She just wasn't like

29:10

a mansion, but she would find some pretty serious

29:12

locations for these. I liked that. You did a

29:14

lot of hopping. I liked that you put you

29:16

through your paces before. Absolutely. It made

29:18

it worth it. You know, I love that. Um,

29:20

did y'all grow up like we had fans,

29:23

like we had our Easter basket that

29:25

we kept and it was

29:27

like very fancy and like,

29:29

yeah, that we grew up with, but I, like,

29:31

I have not managed to do that for my

29:33

children. Like, how do you give them, how do

29:35

you give them something on Easter day? I end

29:38

like we've ended like, it feels like every time

29:40

I buy an Easter basket for them, it ends

29:42

up like broken and in

29:44

shambles. And so we just end up, we

29:46

keep buying new Easter baskets every year, but

29:48

I feel like the one I had, it

29:50

just would not die as a child. Is

29:52

that just like things don't last as long

29:54

or my children are extra feral? No, I

29:56

think our parents were much stricter about where

29:58

we could take that back. I know I think

30:00

we weren't allowed to leave the living room with it. My

30:02

mom was like don't take that basket anywhere This

30:06

year we got cloth Easter baskets for

30:08

for the niece and nephew though that

30:10

I feel like they they store easier

30:13

I think there may be I think

30:15

that could solve the problem that you're

30:17

introducing The weird wood you get their

30:19

name their names engraved on it Oh, yeah,

30:21

of course and listen, it's only gonna happen

30:23

with that first one and then that fourth

30:25

one's gonna be like This is a Walmart

30:27

bag. Why exactly? That's a dollar general bag.

30:29

That's not even the Walmart. That's right. Okay, Evan

30:31

you get to go. This is your last one

30:34

Oh, oh my gosh. Okay my last one.

30:37

I wasn't ready for it. So surprising I

30:39

know I'm going to pick Jesus

30:42

in Gethsemane as my last Wow,

30:46

and love that it took till fourth.

30:48

Yeah for you to pick Jesus Easter

30:50

baskets I'm in Jesus

30:52

Jesus knows my heart, you know, I

30:54

feel really good about I think Jesus would

30:56

put hash brown casserole To

30:59

be fair. He was crying blood. So maybe it wasn't

31:01

a good hang for honestly Yes, I mean I just

31:03

love this so you can find this in Matthew 26

31:05

Mark 14 Luke 22 this passage is Rich

31:12

we learn so much in this

31:14

past in these, you know, like

31:16

passages that we have of Jesus

31:18

and Gethsemane We've got learning about

31:20

how Jesus relates to God as

31:22

father. We get to see aspects

31:24

of Jesus prayer life We see

31:26

weird friendship dynamics at play. We

31:28

see desperation Sadness

31:31

sleepiness, it's perfect. This has

31:33

it all it's one of those passages You

31:36

could read it over and over and you

31:38

can find new nuggets that are gonna impact

31:40

you That's actually one of my hat like

31:42

like routines every single year is to spend

31:45

time like Meditating specifically in the different versions

31:47

of this passage and it is really fun

31:49

to see like oh this

31:51

year What I'm going through right now

31:54

These are the things that like speak to me

31:56

now whereas last year it might have been this

31:58

thing and so it's a great reflection. That's

32:00

lovely. I love that. That's

32:02

so good. Okay, Jamie, your last

32:04

one. Okay, so mine's also really

32:06

thoughtful and meaningful which

32:09

is, you know, Easter activities are important.

32:11

Erin already mentioned the hunt, Evan

32:14

illogically mentioned a sunrise service. And

32:18

I'm gonna say that my top

32:20

Easter activity that we do every

32:22

Easter is we go to the cemetery. We

32:25

go to the cemetery. Now, that's actually a tradition

32:27

in many countries to go to the cemetery on

32:29

Easter but we just did it

32:31

because my mom was like Jesus is dead

32:34

and so is your grandma. And so we

32:36

would go so we go and see my

32:38

grandma and grandpa's grave and

32:40

my grandmother and grandfather's grave. And

32:43

it's the perfect time to see her and I

32:45

take her in Easter lily like every time and

32:48

I get to update her on my life and

32:50

I mean I talked to my grandpa too,

32:52

but he was distant and cold. But I would

32:55

talk to my grandma. This is a reminder. He knows.

32:58

And I just talked to my grandma

33:00

because we used to watch As the World Turns Together and

33:02

eat a sleeve of crackers and drink whipped-in tea. And so

33:05

it's just nice to bring her up to speed about like

33:07

what's this year been like and why I wish

33:09

she was here. I love that. I know and then

33:11

one day I'll see her again. Just like Jesus. That's

33:13

really funny. Yeah, I know. It's super fun. This is

33:15

a lovely Easter picnic. This is a good vibe. I

33:18

know. I know. I love a good cemetery. I mean

33:20

like it's really just them. I don't

33:22

really see any other people other than John B. I

33:25

went with Erin once to see John B's. Oh

33:27

my gosh. I remember we went to John B's.

33:30

We went to John B from McElmore.

33:32

Oh, okay. John B from the serial podcast S10.

33:35

Oh my gosh. We went to see his and

33:37

we like paid respect. We did. We were very

33:39

proud. And then our friend Catherine held up a

33:41

selfie stick and I said, I don't think you

33:43

can hold up a selfie stick in a cemetery.

33:46

Catherine, stop. I don't think so. Just doing that.

33:48

Karen, stop. But the selfie stick. If you're looking

33:50

for a new tradition and you could probably make

33:52

it play for any holiday, you know, you're independent

33:55

from your dying body or

33:57

Labor Day. Your labor here is done. You can pick a

33:59

holiday. and make it an activity to go to your- That's

34:02

a little boring. Yeah. That's

34:04

right. That's right. I actually, I just

34:06

moved to, so I just moved to

34:08

Knoxville and so I've been in a

34:10

shop, or like looking for new coffee

34:12

shops to work from and everything. And

34:14

one of them that I really love

34:16

overlooks this beautiful cemetery. And I've just

34:18

been mesmerized by that all week. And

34:21

I haven't like understood why until

34:23

you're like describing this right now, but I'm

34:25

like, oh no, there's actually something really sweet. Like

34:27

why have I just been staring out the window

34:29

at the cemetery drinking my Cortado, you know?

34:31

But no, it's been a lovely time

34:33

actually. That's so good. Wow, I just, I

34:35

have never felt that in the cemetery ever

34:37

in my life. Maybe your life. But I'm happy

34:39

for y'all. I'm glad for you. I really

34:42

am. I'm happy for you. Okay, so

34:44

my last one is the finest, well,

34:49

probably like the, I think one of the best

34:51

parts of Easter is

34:54

the ham. So

34:56

my non seafood meat

34:59

rankings are steak and

35:02

then it goes to ham. Really, really?

35:04

Well, like non seafood. A

35:07

honey baked ham. You

35:09

just, listen, the sweetness and like

35:12

the crust. Ew. Oh

35:14

my gosh. Unless you're sexualizing ham. You're

35:16

right, I am. You're exactly right. I'm so

35:19

medium on ham, honestly. It is rough

35:21

for me. Listen, if I like,

35:23

oh my gosh, it's just, oh,

35:25

it's so good. And I also

35:27

love that honey baked hams are

35:29

like the spirit Halloween's of Easter.

35:31

Those little pop-ups that they do

35:33

and they're like, what you wanna

35:35

come and get your meat? And then they disappear with the

35:38

Easter. Oh my gosh, I love it. It's just so

35:40

great. I just, I love that we just, listen,

35:42

our country has so many problems, right?

35:44

Like just so many problems. But I

35:47

love that we live in a nation where

35:50

once a year, ham stores

35:53

pop up everywhere and we can go in

35:55

them and eat a giant ham. It's

35:58

just amazing. How big of a ham

36:00

you can get. I mean, like how

36:02

big are those pigs? How big are

36:04

they? Listen, they gave their life just like Jesus. They

36:07

gave their life and probably just, they

36:10

have a lot of antibiotics in them.

36:13

But I love ham, I appreciate

36:16

all port products. And

36:18

so I'm just really grateful. Listen, rich in protein?

36:22

We got some B vitamins? It's fine. Yeah, it's

36:24

good. That's a great choice. Okay, so do you

36:27

guys have any like that were kind of like

36:29

second tier for you? Like just, you wanna just

36:31

like kind of mention also Rand's, Evan, do

36:33

you have any? Yeah, one of mine,

36:35

I actually the only one that like

36:37

wasn't mentioned already is pastels. And

36:39

not because I don't actually care that much about

36:42

pastels themselves. I do love a

36:45

theme though. And so if pastels

36:47

are the uniform of the season

36:49

and of the day, I'm gonna

36:52

commit fully to it, you know,

36:54

so. You know, I used to not

36:56

be about pastels, but then I'd had my colors

36:58

done. Oh yeah, a lot of my colors are

37:00

pastel, which is really odd, but that's your perfect

37:02

color. I'm kind of embracing it now. Yeah, Erin

37:05

looks great in a pastel purple. She says wearing

37:07

a black shirt today. Right, but you do

37:09

look good in a pastel purple. It's

37:11

true. You kill it, you kill it.

37:13

I also had how Christians can make

37:15

everything about the cross, like

37:18

dogwoods. They'll be like, well, we

37:20

put in the centerpiece and

37:23

dogwood branches because obviously the four

37:26

petals resemble a cross and the

37:28

center looks like a crown of

37:30

thorns. And obviously each petal, the

37:32

indentions are the nails that pierced

37:35

his arms on the seat. Again,

37:37

that's great. Jamie, I'm ready to

37:39

walk the Roman road right now. You did it

37:41

for me. I'm coming down the aisle now. Yes,

37:43

I'm ready to recommit my life. I know, and

37:45

I do love that that gets us like

37:48

every time. Like we're there like these hot

37:50

cross buns represent the law. Like

37:52

I just love how we do it. Yeah. And

37:54

there's something wrong with that. I just love it.

37:56

So that's another one. I also do, I do

37:58

love making your whole day. an

38:00

egg-based day. Like you

38:03

start with a nice French toast,

38:05

maybe some amigas, you know, you

38:08

get a little egg drop soup,

38:10

maybe some fried rice, a quiche,

38:12

an egg tartini. So it's a

38:14

cultural journey as well. You know, like a

38:16

trip around the world. Eat a dozen

38:19

eggs and honor the Lord, you know? Absolutely. And

38:21

it's really to learn how Jesus is for all people

38:23

too, you know, by trying the foods of the world.

38:26

I think that's how it really happens. Yeah, no,

38:28

Jesus didn't just come to America. You

38:30

didn't come to America at all. Right.

38:33

Exactly. Erin, what about you,

38:35

also, Ram? I have a couple, you know, obviously

38:37

you mentioned Peter and John's foot

38:39

race. That's a classic. I

38:41

think we should have foot races on

38:43

Easter too. Yeah, we have turkey trots.

38:45

Why don't we have an Easter run?

38:47

No, let's all pause. No sunrise services.

38:49

No 5K. No, I'm not saying

38:52

I want a 5K. I want a foot race. Like,

38:54

I want, I want, I want like

38:56

feats of strength. Like a 40-dash? Yeah,

38:58

a 40-yard dash. That's it. And whoever

39:01

wins gets the first taste of ham.

39:03

That's what I want. I

39:06

love that the people who want the

39:08

ham the most will die in that 40-yard

39:11

dash. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, obviously,

39:13

deviled eggs. But really, something that

39:15

is new that I didn't really know about

39:18

is resurrection rolls. Do y'all know about

39:20

these? No. Or is this where

39:22

Jesus comes out of the front? No. No.

39:24

So Evan, this is something, this is something that

39:26

you'll learn about when your niece and nephew go

39:29

to daycare because this is what they do. But

39:31

essentially, you take a crescent roll and you put

39:33

a marshmallow inside of it. And

39:35

so it's like Jesus is going into the

39:37

tomb that Jesus is a marshmallow. And he

39:40

does not look happy about this. And then

39:42

when you cook it, the marshmallow

39:44

melts. And so Jesus has

39:47

risen. And he's not

39:49

in there. So when they open it up, there's a,

39:51

there's like a empty tomb,

39:53

but no more, no Jesus. A sticky

39:56

empty mass. No, it's just an empty

39:58

tomb. No. Yeah. Okay. Listen. I'm

40:00

looking Easter tomb snacks. And

40:02

Google images. I don't know. I

40:04

don't like it. I don't like it at

40:07

all. You started it. Look, I like

40:09

that they're taking a pineapple and the middle

40:11

of the pineapple is rolled slightly to the

40:13

right. We'll just wait for these. Oh,

40:15

I'm here for that for... Yeah. Also

40:17

a donut that's cut in half and

40:19

then the donut hole is moved

40:22

to the right. What if we just did not

40:24

make a snack out of the resurrection? I know

40:26

we eat snacks. Listen, I do

40:28

have an unfortunate word because I am seeing

40:30

some pretzel sticks dipped in white chocolate to

40:32

make a cross. Oh, that's

40:34

where I draw the line again. Do we

40:37

have manger snacks? Do

40:40

we do that with other

40:42

religious homies? Manger nativity. I'm

40:44

sure we do probably. I think maybe there's

40:46

just fewer adjacent things. I just

40:49

think people maybe are just trying to make

40:51

something of Easter. Listen, it is unfortunate

40:53

that there are. I do see graham

40:55

cracker manger and there are some grapes

40:58

that are supposed to represent a... I

41:01

don't know if Mary and Joseph. And there's... Rapes and

41:03

graham crackers don't go together. I know. And

41:05

then there's a slice of apple that is... Well,

41:08

so the slice of apple, Jesus is in

41:10

it and he's an almond and the sheep

41:12

are popcorn. An almond? Yes, he's an almond.

41:14

Absolutely not. This is for sure not a

41:17

fun snack. Jesus is a piece of chocolate.

41:19

You got to do gingerbread for the manger,

41:21

right? You got to go. I wouldn't be

41:23

against that. Okay, here's my problem

41:25

going back to the resurrection rolls. A

41:28

marshmallow, do you eat them or is

41:30

it just a visual thing? No, you

41:32

eat them. Does marshmallow with a crescent

41:34

roll taste good? Everything with a crescent

41:36

roll tastes good. Evan? I'm

41:38

going to have to experiment because right now this

41:41

is hurting. I can't picture it and

41:43

it's upsetting me. What if Jesus was a nutter butter

41:45

inside the crescent roll? But then it wouldn't

41:47

melt. Okay. No, but I

41:49

mean he comes... He's behind the marshmallow because

41:51

the nutter butter is not going to melt

41:53

because it's a destructible. Right, but then Jesus

41:56

is still in the tomb. And

41:58

that defeats the purpose of the poor. He

42:00

is not. Now we can find the hair

42:02

wing of hell. Is everything still in the

42:04

tube? Or is there something in there

42:06

to keep it from dropping? Like

42:09

a souffle that the top doesn't rise.

42:11

You can't make a souffle in a

42:13

Sunday school class. You can just make it

42:15

in the kitchen. No

42:18

bad ideas in brainstorming. I mean no

42:20

bad ideas, but no. No. This is

42:22

one thing the marshmallow melts. I will try it

42:24

and I will report back. But the marshmallow melts completely.

42:26

Does it completely go away? Yeah it melts completely

42:29

and it kind of sweetens the roll. Just

42:31

like Jesus sweetens our lives.

42:33

Well I'm here. You know I'm open to

42:35

it. I'm not going to do this. Maybe

42:38

you can add a little bit of butter,

42:40

cinnamon, sugar. Give the texture to your tube.

42:42

Like a butter, cinnamon, sugar mixture drizzled on top.

42:44

Listen to be fair I did. They do.

42:46

I like that all of these that I'm seeing,

42:49

these resurrection rolls. They're always putting like a cream

42:52

cheese icing cross on the top.

42:54

Guys we can't go that far. I

42:57

mean can we? Listen

42:59

I am seeing a pudding cup that has

43:01

three crosses sticking out of it. I think

43:03

that's worse. I'll be honest. I'm

43:05

just thinking the whole thing is like I don't

43:07

know. I just want to eat a Reese's. I

43:09

would rather eat a version of

43:12

the resurrection than a version of the crucifixion.

43:15

Okay. Okay fair enough. Yeah. Yeah

43:17

I like this as a team. It's just like this

43:19

couldn't, this might be Jesus' tomb. Who knows whose tomb

43:21

this is. I think. You went to rocks. Yeah

43:24

it could be anything and I think I'd rather

43:26

eat that than the crucifixion. Should

43:30

Reese's make? No. Okay.

43:33

Whatever it is. No. Remember

43:36

one of my prophecies

43:38

for 2024 was the

43:40

snap taking on the Christian world.

43:42

So I haven't seen it happen yet but

43:44

there's still more holidays coming around. Hey tradwives

43:46

get on that. Exactly.

43:48

Somebody please. They're all listening

43:51

and I'm sure that they... Are

43:53

you saying we're not big in the tradwife community? No I don't

43:55

think we're big in the tradwife community. All right everyone that is

43:57

going to do it for this episode of Face of J I'm

44:01

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44:05

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44:23

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