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, so you broke up with the guy , but
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you broke up with the guy because
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you went through this class , is it
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or no ? No , you broke up with the guy because you , you came
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down , you felt god , so the healing part
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of this was from the
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damage that it did . That's
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why you needed the healing . So talk about that . Like
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what . What made you decide that
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, even though you , you felt god told
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you that you needed to make the
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decision , you did
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it right . You put it on paper , you
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sent it to him , you , you
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knew in your heart that
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it was the right decision . So
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what was it that
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I'm going somewhere ? What was it that made you
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feel that you needed to go to this class
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, like what was still inside
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of you , in your mind , in your heart , like what
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was it that you felt you need freedom from ? I'm
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asking this because a lot of people will
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do something over here that
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solves a problem relationally
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, but then they still have bondage mentally
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and spiritually . So what made
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you decide to go from ? Okay , I handle business
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, that's taken care of , but
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you recognize in you that there was still something
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that you needed to handle for you . So what
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was it that made you feel like you needed to take the class
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? Was it you still , technically , weren't over
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him , you still were grieving
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, I mean , because it was a loss . You
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know You're still in a grieving process
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. Like what did that look like ?
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There was just some bad
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emotional baggage that I had
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, yeah , some anger , some
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bitterness , resentment , some
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unforgiveness .
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That's important because you can
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know what God told you to do and
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do it , but still you have
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to live in the echo of what happened or what
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you were dealing with . And there's
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oftentimes like pastors
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go through this or leaders in churches will go through this , where
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they'll help everybody else , they'll
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get everybody else
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well , and they end up suffering in silence
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themselves because they never actually address their own stuff
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and like you're doing right
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now , telling other people , hey , you probably need to break up with
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them , but then you didn't yet have
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that freedom to speak from a place of freedom
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to show them the next steps
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. After so , anger
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, bitterness . Even though you did the right thing
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, you were still angry . Now
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, what was stemming from the anger ?
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Like , where did that come from ? It was the fact that you know he , he misabused me
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. I'm like he . Just he manipulated me to doing things that I otherwise
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wouldn't have done yeah I
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was like I was mad because
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, like , like you did
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this , to why
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like all these things he
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did . I'm just like I
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want answers to yes yeah
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but sometimes I can
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move on without it yeah I
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can live without
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knowing that stuff all
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about him .
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All this time . He
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never considered always .
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It was always about him , always on him
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. He never considered my feelings
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, how I felt about things
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. No
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respect whatsoever again
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no respect .
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That may be too old for some of y'all , but
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that's , that's a good . A lot
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of times , I think in relationships respect
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is men desire to be respected
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, but I think sometimes we forget to
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give that back to the woman . Yes
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, women love security . Women like to be taken care
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of . They want their needs met , but also both
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parties need respect too .
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Yeah , I don't know , no
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way , no way .
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That's a big one right there . Not respecting the parents , that
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was one of my . It's
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funny that I look back now I don't ask
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my son this , but when I
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would talk about dating a girl or whatever
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, or saying my dad would say , is she filled
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with the holy ghost ? And I said , oh no , dad
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, I've been doing for like three weeks . He's
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like , well , son , if she ain't filled with the holy ghost
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, you know the whole pentecostal stuff , but
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but but things , the
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things like that that are
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important to us should be important , like honoring
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your parents , like you honor them , is
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important in finding someone that you're going to
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marry . I mean , that's the whole reason for for
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dating people is to find somebody to , to be with
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, to share a life with .
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Like the dates . The
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dates are cheap . Now
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you know what she really wants . Like let's go to
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the hobby tree and let's get some white
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cakes and some chips only . Oh
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, let's go to Putt-Putt I
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used to work there so we can get around and go
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for free , Cause I know one
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of the managers .
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Well , at least he was staying in the budget . He
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never paid for anything . He never really paid .
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He never really paid , so you didn't
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really go on dates , I mean maybe
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the first few dates . He paid for
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the meals , for the activities
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.
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Yeah .
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But after that it just all went downhill
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.
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Oh , he hooked you . He got you with the first couple free
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meals like a drug dealer First time's free
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.
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There was one date that
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we were on . It was me , him
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and my stepsister . We
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were at the Hall of Fame in a tree ate our food
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, and I looked at him . He
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was paying for his meal . I
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looked at him . I said well , aren't
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you going to pay for our
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meal too ? He said
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no , because
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I'm trying to save up for
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our future .
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So he was going to feed you to save for your future . Yeah
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Well , if you don't get fed , you won't make it to your
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future .
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I'm thinking hold on , how
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does that work ?
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How does that work ? Well , his mom was always in the picture trying
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to . She interfered with the breakup no
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oh okay
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no but you
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don't remember .
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That's
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not a traumatizer that much . If she didn't
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, she forgave . She don't remember that .
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I don't know I don't remember that apartment
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. Look how I met this
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guy back in 2019
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, fresh out of high school , going into college
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, and this beautiful nikon
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my grandpa got me yeah
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, and I just wanted to learn more about how
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to use it , figure out how to get started
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. So I just went out and did all on my own
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because going to college , the
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professor had just retired . I'm
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angry about that . Still , I
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extreme . Are we talking here bmx
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skateboarding ? What are we talking about ?
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extreme sports exactly that's what I'm thinking . I'm thinking
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like skateboarding bmx
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yeah all those things , parkour
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Yeah .
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He messaged back saying thank you , but
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I cannot help you in the department
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. He messaged back with a
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thumbs up emoji . I blocked him
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. I'm leaving the message like
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I would have reported him
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. I report those jokers and
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talked to one of my friends outside and he
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said block and report
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. I said done , already
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done .
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He said good so let's
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get back to the , the freedom stuff . So now
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that you're out of the class
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on the other side , do you feel
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that you have truly
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forgiven and released
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that ? Or is
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it kind of a little bit like sanctification
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, kind of an ongoing process ? Because
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I have been married to Jesse
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for nine years in April , but
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11 years ago , 12 years ago , I
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was severely hurt by my first
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wife and sometimes
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that anger still can , still
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can try to come up and make it to the surface . Yeah
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, so , but
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but before we go there , sorry , let's go back into
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the class . So what were some of the steps that
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you did to get rid of for
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people out there that maybe are on the other side of a bad
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relationship ? What were some of the steps that
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you did , or some of the steps you learned to
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release that anger , to
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deal with the anger , the bitterness , the
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anxiety that can come with stuff like that ? What were
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some of the things , some of the tools that were given to you
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in this class that kind of helped you
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release that and really give it to God ? The
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booklet .
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The booklet .
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What's the booklet Explain ?
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Like each week , of course
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, the course is each week we have one
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course to go through .
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Oh , so you're talking about the course you actually went through ? Yeah
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, okay .
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We , we have a little section we go through each week . So in each section
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, it talks about this , what this is and this , how to deal with it
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. Yeah , like with the forgiveness , talk to god about it and
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, of course , god . What do I need to do
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to ? What do I need to do to
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forgive this person from
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x y z , x
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y z , and how do I do it
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? For me it was , how
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do I forgive him for all the mental
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abuse that he caused me ?
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on trauma . So what was that answer ? Like
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what ? What is it that helps you
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to not forgive in a moment's
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note , like in that moment , in a moment
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in time , but to continually
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forgive him every single day
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? Now , I understand a lot of times
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. The time will
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help you forgive because
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you'll be further and further away from the initial
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hurt . But what
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is it that you learned from the class ? That was
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a tool to get you to that place
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, to where you could . It
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took time and it took effort because I guess
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since the breakup it's been a little bit of time , a couple
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. You know what a year and six months or
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so when you took the class , how
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long ago was it yeah like yeah , six months , because
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it was last fall yeah yeah fall
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so that was yeah time . So
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time , the
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of God obviously reads scriptures . Do
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you remember offhand some scriptures
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? Or maybe from your book that was something
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that had to do with forgiveness , that maybe
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something that you wrote on your heart , or maybe you memorized
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to keep you forgiving
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? Oh , I sure remember
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something . Yeah , oh , yeah , talk about the balloon . You
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always walk out there with the balloons on . Yes , okay
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, tell it what that is , what that means
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the balloon .
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The balloon is to represent the white
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part , is to represent , it's
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the god . And then there's
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a ribbon , a red ribbon , then , attaching
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the god to basically
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the wrist , which is , and that represents
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, the blood of Jesus .
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Okay .
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What you do is you write the names
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of the people you're forgiving
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on the balloon . When
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you release that balloon , you're supposed
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to be giving it all to God . It's
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a symbol , right , a symbol of I'm
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giving this to you , yeah , because it's
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done .
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I think sometimes in processes
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like this , it takes that symbol so
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that you can have something tangible in your hands
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, because forgiveness is something you don't see , it's
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not something you can actually wrap your hands on . So to give
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that to God and let it go . So y'all just let
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it go , put helium in it , just let it float up in the
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air .
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Well , it's actually already blown up . It's
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a helium balloon .
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So we just let it go and just be free . When you let something
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go , like when you , that's an example , you know that's just not . If
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I let it go when this person
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, I can never come back to your mind
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. You can't .
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Yeah , yeah , exactly , exactly
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, yeah , I can't give again , because I've
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gave it to God . Yeah yeah
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, forgiveness is
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an ongoing process . It's
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not a once and done thing .
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Someone explained it to me , like talking about
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forgiveness or your burdens and
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the way they said it . For some reason it just stuck with me and
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it made a lot of sense . Like we come
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to the altar to give
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our burdens to the lord but
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leave them there , don't pick them up when you leave the altar . And
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that was . It's kind of the same thing . Yeah , once
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you let it go , once you let that
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go in physical terms , it's impossible to get it
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back .
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Yeah , I mean , of course the satan didn't come back and remind you . Let that go
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. In physical terms it's impossible to get it back . Yeah , I mean , of course
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satan didn't come back and remind you of that same thing over and over
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and over again . But you have to
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, you have . This is why
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thank you , steven and ringweed
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for saying it we have to be grounded
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in the word of god . We have to
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be prepared when the enemy comes
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against us so
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we can attack him .
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Are you saying you've got some spiritual maturity going on over
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there ?
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Pretty much that's
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good .
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So , on the outside of the class , what
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are some of the things from the class that now you apply
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to your everyday walk , your
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everyday journey of continuing
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to forgive ? What does that look like
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for you ? What ? What from the class ? Some
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key points or or things you
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have lodged in your memory and down into your
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heart to give you good , healthy
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fruit , not only in the spirit
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, but mentally , physically , emotionally , like
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? What are some of the things from the classes you apply every day ?
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funny thing . You'd say good roots or
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good fruits . I'm sorry , because
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in anger , the anger
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you talk about good fruits
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produce good root or good roots
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produce good fruits . Yeah , bad roots
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produce bad fruits
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yeah and I have to remember
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that every day , when I'm especially at work
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I was wondering what you did
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.
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I saw you putting some stuff on it earlier . I'm like man , she did
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something .
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That's a bad burn . Oh yeah , absolutely
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. What'd you do ? So ? Potatoes
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You're going to hear this story . Potatoes , I
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make three pans of them . I'm like
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, okay , sticky potatoes , peel
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them , wash them and
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just peel them . Come up , pour
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, just peel them , cut them up , put it on the stove . I'll do half , I'll half it , 30
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and 30 . So got
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the first three boiled , picked up
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the pot , I went to transfer
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it and my grip started
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slipping . I
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was like it's either me , it's
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right here . I was
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like it's either me
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, it's right here . I was like it's either me or the potatoes , and
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I was not about to just tell them that's it
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done and just let them burn my legs
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, because that would have been worse . Instead
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, I said so . I said
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that's it , we're going down together . We're
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going down together . We're going down together , lost
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a couple of potatoes . Potatoes lost a little bit
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of skin . But I mean what ?
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it's okay , yeah little potato , little
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skin . Potatoes have skin . There
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you go . So bad
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roots , bad fruit , good roots
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, good fruits . So did
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y'all learn about fruits of the spirit in there ?
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yeah , for the spirit yeah
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, go over a little . Okay , got
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bad fruit , get free , bring
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the spirit on one side of the end . That's
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.
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Yes , that's true , okay , the flesh . Yeah , was
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that a big hurdle for you , or a big , a big one
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?
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that was an issue was anger yeah , that kind of
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was one because he , because
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he did , because , again , the mental
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abuse , the manipulation
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, the way his parents carnal
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, with with them being autistic
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and bipolar , having
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a lot of issues with
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just him .
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Yeah , a lot of issues . So how did
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you get past your anger then ? Because that's probably a big one for
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a lot of people realizing that
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I can't hold on that stuff .
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Man , the more I'll hold
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on this stuff , the more damage
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I'm doing to myself yeah more
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harm trying to get on the same goes
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, I don't know it's like drinking poison
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and expecting someone else to die yeah I've
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heard like what was it
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?
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anger . Anger always hurts you , like
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you could be so angry with someone , so bitter at somebody
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, and you'll see them
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again and they won't even know how
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much damage they're doing to you and
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it's all you're . You're turning it back internal
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, like it's not hurting them at all to be
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up , for you to be upset with them at all
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. Like you said at the very beginning , like forgiveness
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. A
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part of that forgiveness is understanding that it's not about them , it's about
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you being free .
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But so , from a day to day , how you doing as every day , day to day , it's not
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easy , of course , but I
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have to remember it's yours
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, it's not mine .
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Cheers so specifically on
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this live stream today , we've talked about
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more of
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a relationship , finding freedom from those relationship
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, poisonous relationships
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that we should let go and not continue
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to be a part of . So what would be
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some closing thoughts for someone either
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in a bad relationship that
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is not good for them , or on
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the other side , and
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they're kind of how you felt . They're
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in that , that space
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of all kinds of emotions mauled
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up and just shook up real
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hard . You know , like it's almost what it feels
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like , like you take a soda bottle and you shake it up
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and it's just like eventually it's gonna pop
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and you can either gently
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release the pressure or it's going to
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blow up and usually it'll end up hurting the people around you the most
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. So what would be some encouraging words
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you can give to somebody that's either in it or
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has been through it and they're trying to heal ?
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If you're in it , as
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in just leaning on God , leaning
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on those close to you , seeking
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wise counsel , because
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the older generation
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, believe it or not , they actually know something
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yeah they actually know something
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about our relationships y'all can't
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see it , but she's praising the lord in the corner
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over there .
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She's like , yes , she's right , I do
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know things more than most of all
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of us . But yeah , sorry
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, go ahead .
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It's okay . And for those of you who
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have been through it already and
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are still trying to get over it , walking
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through that freedom and
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that day-to-day process , like I am , again
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seek wise counsel . Those of the older
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generation know as best those
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log things .
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Yeah Well , morgan , thank you so much for coming
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on and sharing your story . I really appreciate you taking
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time out of your day . Thank
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you , sister Stella , for coming and being a support . She is the lady
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for finding freedom . Her
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story is an amazing story . One day I'd like to get her on
19:59
here and share her story . So , once
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again , thank you so much for joining the live
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, whether in person , like we are today , or
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if you want to do a live stream
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, zoom call we can also do it that
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way as well . Faithandfailures at
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gmailcom . You can reach out to
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me there Also . Most of you know that
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at least once a week , if I get the
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time , I also do a
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kind of reaction videos where we talk about scripture and
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we look at what's going on in the culture . We
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should be biblical people that are living
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in the culture , not culture people trying to
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Read the bible every now and then . So
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we want to tackle the culture head on
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. Know what the scripture says so that you
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can know truth when you're faced with a
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lie . Thank you all so much . We'll
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see you next time and
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have a great week .
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