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Progressive Christians On TikTok - Pastor Reacts

Released Wednesday, 3rd January 2024
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Progressive Christians On TikTok - Pastor Reacts

Progressive Christians On TikTok - Pastor Reacts

Wednesday, 3rd January 2024
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I thought I'd love the girl when I really

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didn't understand what love was

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. I had a false sense or a false

0:06

definition of what love was because of

0:09

my very narrow

0:11

and shallow understanding of

0:13

what love actually was .

0:16

Faith and Failure's podcast

0:18

.

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That's just the facts . All right , now I was talking

0:22

about speaking of truth . Now some of you , some

0:25

of you may not understand how bad some

0:27

churches have gotten . So I wanted to like kind of

0:29

point out a little bit today on

0:32

this video where

0:34

this guy is using scripture to

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say that you can just be sinful

0:38

however you want . Listen to this .

0:40

Jesus said you welcome people period

0:42

. Jesus said you extend radical

0:44

hospitality period

0:46

. Jesus did not say

0:48

one single word

0:50

of condemnation about anyone

0:53

based on sexual orientation or gender

0:55

identity . In fact , the only

0:57

mention Jesus really makes of it is

1:00

this passage in Matthew

1:02

. Maybe you're familiar with

1:04

it . It's actually an affirmation

1:06

. Now there we go . It's buried in

1:08

ancient language and it's surrounded

1:10

by this weird teaching about divorce

1:13

, but what Jesus said is this Hold

1:15

on .

1:15

He just said Jesus said this and

1:17

it's surrounded by weird teaching , by divorce . So now

1:20

he's saying what Jesus said was weird

1:22

teaching . So he already , he already

1:24

set the stage for what he actually believes

1:26

is truth . It's obviously not

1:28

what Jesus says . That , if

1:30

you ?

1:31

are unique and you have been a unique

1:33

since birth . That was an ancient

1:35

way of saying that if you differed from

1:38

what was expected in terms of

1:40

what we would call today sexual orientation

1:42

or gender identity , that if you were

1:44

a unique and you had been a unique from

1:46

birth , that you were loved

1:48

by God . Jesus said you

1:51

love period .

1:52

Okay , so I'm

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going to do a quick search , right quick , because

1:57

I think he's pulling from . Actually , let's watch

1:59

this other video , see if this guy actually points it out . Hold on

2:01

. Mark said Justice

2:03

is turned back and righteous stands . I

2:05

say , if it did not , truth is fallen

2:08

in the street equity cannot

2:10

enter . Yeah . So let's say this this

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guy , what's his name ? Original

2:14

Mr B , I think it's his name . So

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this guy talks about apologetics and things

2:19

. He's kind of a younger dude

2:21

, but see if he addresses and

2:23

says what scripture I was gonna look

2:25

up .

2:25

This is , and you using

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the little loving face emoji

2:30

shows me that you do not understand

2:33

what love is . Consensual

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adults in a loving relationship

2:39

is not a sin . People

2:42

being their authentic selves

2:44

, including the gender that they know

2:46

themselves to be , is not

2:49

a sin . If your religion

2:51

says that it is , get

2:53

a new religion .

2:54

I wanna offer a criticism to both the original

2:56

comment and this creator's response

2:58

to the comment . When it comes to

3:00

the LGBT discussions we have many

3:03

well-meaning Christians sometimes use an aphorism

3:05

God loves the sinner , but

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hates the sin . Unfortunately , this

3:10

cliche ends up creating a lot of confusion

3:12

. My friend , ellen Schleeman points out that

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when Christians use this cliche , the

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only word people hear is the word

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hate . And because they believe being

3:21

LGBT isn't merely what they do

3:23

, but who they are , what they end up

3:25

hearing is God hates me and you

3:27

hate me . That's true . Not only . This slogan

3:29

is intended to communicate compassion and

3:31

hope for sinners , but it's not

3:33

received that way . So let's drop the cliche

3:36

and instead let's just present the gospel Well

3:38

. I don't like the original comment . I think

3:40

the creator's response is even worse . This

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creator claims that the commenter doesn't

3:45

understand what love is . After

3:47

all , she says consensual adults

3:49

in a loving relationship is not a sin

3:51

and people being their authentic selves

3:54

is not a sin . Of course , this is demonstrably

3:57

false . Just visit a prison and you

3:59

will find people who are being their authentic

4:01

selves . Furthermore , we have explicit

4:03

examples of consensual sexual activity

4:05

that violates God's commands . When Paul

4:08

found out that a man and his father's wife

4:10

were in a sexual relationship , he didn't

4:12

say well , as long as

4:14

this is consensual adults in a loving relationship

4:17

, it's not a sin . On the contrary

4:19

, he pronounced judgment on them . Now don't

4:21

miss this . The arrogant Corinthian church

4:23

thought they were being loving

4:25

towards the couple by tolerating

4:27

their consensual relationship . The problem

4:30

is , they didn't understand what real

4:32

love looks like . In the same letter , paul

4:34

says love does not rejoice in

4:36

wrongdoing , but rejoices in

4:38

the truth . When we rejoice and

4:41

affirm wrongdoing , something God calls

4:43

a sin , we keep people from repentance

4:45

, and that's not loving , that's unloving

4:48

. One way God communicates his love to

4:50

you and me is by telling us that many

4:52

of the things we want to do we shouldn't do

4:54

. Because Jesus loved the woman caught in

4:56

adultery , he said go and sin no more

4:58

. Because Jesus loved the rich man , he told

5:00

him to sell all that he had and give it to the poor

5:03

. Because Jesus loved the lost Jewish people

5:05

, he said unless you believe that I am he

5:07

, you will die in your sins . Only

5:09

God defines what love is . The apostle

5:12

John writes and this is love that

5:14

we walk in obedience to his commands

5:16

. And he says by this we know that we

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love the children of God when

5:21

we love God and obey his commandments

5:23

. So we love others by keeping

5:26

God's commands , not by rejecting

5:28

them .

5:29

Yeah , so that's what he does . He takes

5:31

like the pin out , yeah , cast

5:33

dead . And this is 100%

5:36

true . Loving is not the same

5:38

as condoning and agreeing with

5:40

citizen . Wrong is wrong and

5:43

a lot of people get that confused . They

5:45

throw around . They throw around

5:47

the word love , just like I did when I was a child

5:49

I thought I loved a girl , when I

5:51

really didn't understand what love was

5:54

. I had a false sense or a false

5:56

definition of what love was because of

5:59

my very narrow

6:01

and shallow understanding of

6:03

what love actually was . Love

6:05

will make you tell somebody the

6:07

truth , even when it hurts them

6:10

a little bit . Love will help you

6:12

or will bring you to a

6:14

place of repentance . Because

6:16

I love God so much

6:18

for what he has done for

6:20

me and just who he is , I

6:22

will not turn to what I used to do

6:25

, but I will repent and turn

6:27

for my wicked ways" . I think

6:29

a lot of times in the New Testament

6:31

when Jesus healed somebody , he would say go

6:34

and send no more . And this

6:36

place of gratitude and love because

6:39

of what God just demonstrated

6:41

in their life was a very real , intangible

6:43

thing , like a lot of their lives were changed . Like

6:46

a man who was blind now could see

6:48

you understand their emifications of

6:50

something like that in your life

6:52

, changing and turning around , the

6:54

layman who kept trying to get into

6:57

the pool , but everybody would always beat him

6:59

. When the angel will come and stir up the waters

7:01

, like all of a sudden this man could walk , all

7:03

of a sudden this man could go to work , all

7:06

of a sudden this man can do what

7:08

he never could have done in

7:11

his life . And so God

7:13

tells us that we are to repent

7:15

and stop the way we are

7:18

now . Give it all to him , let

7:20

him wash it and he will bless it and give it back

7:22

to us in a way that we never dreamed

7:25

. There's one more video from the same guy I wanna

7:27

look at . Well , it's hold

7:29

on , and this is talking about sin . Same kind

7:31

of concept . Like you , look at this guy and

7:33

you'll understand exactly what I'm talking about . Not trying to make

7:35

fun , but there he is . That's

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the dude .

7:38

Well , it's a sin To who ? It's

7:40

a sin To who

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? To everyone . That's kinda how sins work

7:45

, see . But that's not true . Sin is subjective

7:48

. It says so in Romans 14 , 14 . In

7:50

it Paul says I'm convinced

7:52

, being fully persuaded by the Lord Jesus

7:54

, that nothing is unclean in

7:56

itself , but if someone regards something

7:58

as unclean , then for that person

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it is unclean . So I say

8:03

again for who ? Cause it

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depends on the person .

8:07

This is what happens when you read a single verse

8:09

without looking at the context . Well

8:12

, we have a principle , don't we Never read

8:14

a Bible verse ? What that means is

8:16

you always read the verses around the verse , the

8:18

context . And when you read the context

8:20

, you find out that Paul is specifically talking

8:22

about eating food that is clean

8:24

but that you think is unclean . See

8:27

, on the one hand , there were Christians with weaker faith

8:29

those are Paul's words who believed eating certain

8:31

food was sinful . As a result , they passed

8:33

judgment on those Christians who would eat those

8:35

foods . On the other hand , there were Christians with

8:37

stronger faith , like the apostle Paul , who

8:40

knew all food is clean . But

8:42

those stronger Christians were causing the weaker

8:44

Christians to stumble into sin by

8:46

getting them to do something that they believed

8:48

was wrong . That's the context . But this

8:50

raised a question about the weaker Christians

8:53

. How does doing something that's not

8:55

sinful in itself become sinful

8:57

if the person believes God prohibits

8:59

it ? Maybe an illustration will help . Imagine

9:01

I , tim Barnett , believe it's a sin to

9:03

go to the movie theater . Fyi , I actually

9:06

met someone from a legalistic home who believed

9:08

that .

9:08

Now if my dad used to . I

9:11

don't know about necessarily a sin , but

9:13

growing up as a kid we could not go to the movies . Do

9:15

you remember a Robin Williams movie

9:17

called Flubber ? I was in hell

9:20

at eight and my parents

9:22

didn't even take me . It was a babysitter that took

9:24

me with her husband and I kind

9:26

of got in trouble because I went and then the next movie

9:28

was and I don't even remember , but

9:30

I was not allowed to go to the movies at all going

9:33

up .

9:33

Now , if I believe God prohibits going to the

9:35

movie theater and I go to the movie theater

9:37

because my Christian friends are going , that

9:39

would be sin . Why is it ? Because

9:41

all sin is really subjective ? Of course

9:44

not . It's because in that act my

9:46

heart is set against God and it's objectively

9:48

sinful to do something that you believe is prohibited

9:51

by God . You don't have to believe something

9:53

is sin for it to be sin . For

9:55

example , you might not believe murder is sin

9:57

, but that's and change the fact that murder is

9:59

a sin . However , you do

10:01

have to believe something that's not a

10:03

sin is a sin for it to

10:06

be sin . You may need to listen to that sentence

10:08

again , using Paul's example . If you

10:10

believe in certain meat is a sin

10:12

, even though it's not a sin , but you

10:14

eat it anyways , then that is a

10:16

sin . The problem is a sinful heart , not

10:18

sinful food . That's why , concerning eating , paul

10:21

says each one should be fully convinced

10:23

in his own mind . If you're not convinced

10:25

that it's okay to eat and you eat it anyways

10:27

, you have sinned against God , paul says

10:29

. But whoever has doubts is condemned

10:31

if he eats because the eating is

10:34

not from faith , for whatever does

10:36

not proceed from faith is sin . Faith

10:38

is a confidence that what you're doing is for

10:40

the Lord . So if you think you're doing something

10:42

against the Lord , it's not from faith , it's

10:45

sin . This content creator thinks sin is subjective

10:47

and that this verse proves it . Ironically

10:50

, this passage teaches just the opposite

10:52

.

10:52

He always puts it Well it's a sin , who

10:55

he always puts the pain back there like bone

10:58

done , told you . And

11:00

so this is . This is

11:02

something you need to understand as a Christian that as

11:05

soon as someone says my truth , it

11:08

no longer is true . Because because

11:10

in the world we live

11:12

in good , bad , our

11:14

culture , civilization , whatever

11:16

you want to slap on it we're living

11:18

in God's world . He is the

11:20

creator , he is also the

11:23

, the ender , if he wants to be so

11:25

. That should shake us , that should keep us humble

11:27

, that should keep us chasing after him , because

11:30

we want to please him , we desire

11:32

to be in relationship with him

11:34

, we desire to be close to him . So

11:37

I had a couple more videos . We're gonna wrap it up

11:39

now . I've been on here for , let's see

11:41

, oh , almost two hours . So

11:43

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11:45

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12:01

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12:07

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12:09

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